| infinity | Having it automated when they're, in fact, equal, seems perfectly reasonable. | 00:00 |
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| stgraber | slangasek: for the full report on all supported releases: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1338655/ | 00:01 |
| stgraber | slangasek: maybe that kde langpack should be copied to precise-updates, looks like it was removed in quantal | 00:01 |
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| ScottK | slangasek and xnox: I guess I should modify and say 'sane patches welcome' wrt PyQt4 split. I'm particularly interested in a sane way to determine appropriate dependencies since we're doing a more fine grained split than upstream. FWIW, I agree with doko re CMake and Pytyon stuff. | 00:30 |
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| slangasek | stgraber: right, kde-l10n-kn copied | 00:37 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 06:53 |
| jaaso | Allways get this error while trying to build ubuntu unity http://paste.ubuntu.com/1339148/, I am following this guide http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/ :/ | 06:59 |
| sarnold | jaaso: is that the first error in the build output? | 07:16 |
| jaaso | Yes | 07:17 |
| sarnold | drat, there goes the usual easy first response :) hehe | 07:17 |
| pitti | ev: ddebs.u.c.'s precise indexes ought to be better now, FYI | 07:17 |
| jaaso | I tried to build unity yesterday on fresh ubuntu install, and have same error | 07:17 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:00 |
| didrocks | bonjour dholbach | 08:05 |
| dholbach | didrocks, bonjour mon ami - comment ça va? | 08:06 |
| didrocks | dholbach: bien occuppé, mais ça va! et toi? :) | 08:08 |
| dholbach | oui - la même chose ici | 08:08 |
| dholbach | :) | 08:08 |
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| jaaso | omg, fixed previous error, now I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1339290/. So annoying | 08:44 |
| jaaso | I this DECLARE_LOGGER(logger, "unity.bghash"); should be in unity namespace. ...../unity/trunk/unity-shared/BGHash.cpp file | 08:46 |
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| pitti | Riddell, ScottK: FYI, I filed the PyKDE4 crash as bug 1075891 | 09:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1075891 in pykde4 (Ubuntu Raring) "PyKDE4 broken with Python 3.3: ImportError: No module named 'DLFCN'" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1075891 | 09:17 |
| ev | pitti: Thanks! | 09:19 |
| apw | cjwatson, so i think i have .signature support prototyped out ok, but grub is picking them up as kernels; do we want to rethink the naming or fix grub | 09:28 |
| apw | pitti, are you still the main man on .ddeb handing, and particularly reaping ? | 09:33 |
| pitti | apw: yeah, I am | 09:33 |
| cjwatson | apw: inclined to fix grub since I think any renaming would have to be obscurantist otherwise | 09:34 |
| apw | pitti, so we seem to have lost the ddebs for 3.2.0-32 which is -security,-updates in preceise | 09:35 |
| apw | cjwatson, we could consider having /boot/signature/vmlinuz-.....efi | 09:35 |
| xnox | pitti: Riddell, ScottK: it's a bug in python3.3 | 09:36 |
| pitti | xnox: DLFCN is supposed to exist? | 09:36 |
| cjwatson | apw: we could; do you think it's worth it? | 09:36 |
| pitti | apw: looking | 09:36 |
| cjwatson | I suppose it might look cleaner or something | 09:36 |
| xnox | pitti: yes, it's /usr/lib/python2.7/plat-linux2/DLFCN.py & /usr/lib/python3.2/plat-linux2/DLFCN.py | 09:36 |
| apw | cjwatson, i dislike both really for various reasons | 09:36 |
| xnox | pitti: but completely missing in python3.3. There is an upstream bug that it was not being built on plat-linux3 (3.X kernels) but that was fixed. | 09:37 |
| cjwatson | do we have to change grub anyway for this scheme to work? I guess not ... | 09:37 |
| xnox | pitti: I am guessing that DLFCN.py should be in a multi-arch location in python3.3 but I can't find it anywhere. | 09:37 |
| apw | no as it stands we still make .signed kernels as kernels | 09:38 |
| apw | and they get picked up as one would hope | 09:38 |
| apw | the signature is just noise, and generally not even usable by the user without effort | 09:38 |
| cjwatson | Maybe it shouldn't be in /boot at all? | 09:39 |
| cjwatson | It's not needed at boot time | 09:39 |
| xnox | pitti: there is /usr/lib/python3.3/plat-x86_64-linux-gnu/IN.py in the package libpython3.3-stdlib .... | 09:39 |
| cjwatson | So strictly it should be in /usr or something | 09:39 |
| pitti | xnox: ah, so the multiarch handling works in general, just not for DLFCN? | 09:40 |
| xnox | pitti: yeah.... nor for CDROM nor TYPES | 09:40 |
| apw | thats a fair statement indeed -- it could go almost anywhere | 09:40 |
| pitti | apw: do you know when it disappeared? | 09:47 |
| apw | pitti, i don't, smb has an email informing us | 09:48 |
| smb | pitti, Not really I just saw an email complaining about it from a user yesterday | 09:48 |
| pitti | apw: hm, only the armel ones are left indeed | 09:48 |
| pitti | meh | 09:48 |
| apw | its an odd combination indeed | 09:49 |
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| pitti | apw, smb: they were built more than 7 days ago though, so I'm afraid there's nothing I can do now | 09:49 |
| pitti | we just have to stop the madness of how we currently handle ddebs :( | 09:50 |
| pitti | apw: 33 is there, when is that due for release? | 09:50 |
| * smb guesses maybe two more weeks | 09:50 | |
| apw | pitti, 'real soon now' i believe | 09:50 |
| * pitti hopes we can get ddebs into Launchpad librarian soon | 09:50 | |
| pitti | infinity: ^ do you know how we can/should test this? uploading a new pkg-create-dbgsym to staging and doing a test build there? or would that not suffice? | 09:51 |
| * pitti is a bit afraid to break LP when uploading it to raring | 09:51 | |
| apw | pitti, heh yeah that sounds like a bit of a nightmare | 09:52 |
| apw | pitti, if by magic we had a copy would you be able to reinsert them and then perhaps figure out why they went missing ? | 09:53 |
| pitti | apw: we can reinsert them, yes | 09:53 |
| pitti | apw: as for why they went AWOL, I'm not sure | 09:53 |
| pitti | apw: the whole mechanics how this archive is created is insanely brittle and slow | 09:54 |
| apw | pitti, ahh i guess they may not have appeared even | 09:54 |
| apw | pitti, so they must have been there as carbou has a copy | 09:55 |
| pitti | ddebs@macquarie:~$ ping carbou.canonical.com | 09:56 |
| pitti | ping: unknown host carbou.canonical.com | 09:56 |
| pitti | hmm | 09:56 |
| pitti | apw: can you toss me an URL? | 09:56 |
| apw | pitti, heh caribou is someone in L3 who keeps copies against loss like this | 09:57 |
| apw | pitti, working on getting them somewhere | 09:57 |
| pitti | oh, mind the "i" :) | 09:57 |
| apw | pitti, ok we seem to have some general issue here ... smb is telling me we have a number of older ones there, but generally the ones in -security are missing | 09:58 |
| apw | pitti, if what smb is saying in my ear is right then we might be keeping the right number but the wrong ones | 09:58 |
| smb | Seems at least true for Oneiric and Lucid | 09:58 |
| pitti | hm, my cron jobs have all -updates and -security pockets | 09:59 |
| smb | 2.6.32-44.98 (has only versatile), 3.0.0-26.43 (only has omap) | 09:59 |
| smb | pitti, Could it miss a "not"? :) We seem to have kept all we don't care about and deleted the ones we do... | 10:00 |
| apw | pitti, ok if you look just at 2.6.32-* (http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/) we have like every abi from release to now other than the one in -updaes or something ? | 10:00 |
| pitti | smb: I'm fetching the Packages.gz from the archive and find out which ddeb needs to go in which index by comparing pkgname + '-dbgsym' and version numbers | 10:00 |
| pitti | there's no negation involved | 10:00 |
| smb | pitti, Just nagging. ;) Otherwise nothing would be left in some way | 10:01 |
| pitti | but yeah, it looks strange | 10:01 |
| pitti | it might be due to the fact that we never really NBS out old ABIs in stables? | 10:02 |
| caribou | pitti: apw smb I have been mirroring them on a server in Mtl for a while. Not sure if everything is there though | 10:02 |
| apw | caribou, yeah great, we may want some of those indeed | 10:03 |
| xnox | doko: so there are two python3.3 bugs now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.3 | 10:04 |
| smb | caribou, could you get together with pitti and let him know how to access the copies? | 10:11 |
| doko | xnox, cute | 10:13 |
| caribou | smb: ok | 10:14 |
| xnox | doko: yeah =/ enjoy multi-arch?! | 10:14 |
| * xnox really needs to get hardware to build gcc/python quickly. | 10:14 | |
| xnox | doko: the DLFCN one is important, the DLDLIBRARY is a nice to have type of thing. | 10:17 |
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| caribou | smb: regarding Bug #1064475, I'll speak with arges later on. Don't know why he got it | 10:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1064475 in crash (Ubuntu) "crash version is outdated. Needs to import Debian version of the package" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064475 | 10:44 |
| caribou | pitti: ddebs for 3.2.0-32 are here : http://people.canonical.com/~lbouchard/precise_ddebs/ | 10:45 |
| pitti | caribou: cheers! | 10:45 |
| caribou | pitti: just let me know if you need more, got 400Gb of them :-) | 10:46 |
| smb | caribou, Just want to make sure he and I spent time on it and I was hoping to get that completed soon. So yeah, I will try to talk to him too | 10:47 |
| caribou | smb: what was the outcome of the Ubuntu specific module ? do we want it submitted upstream or we just drop it ? | 10:48 |
| smb | caribou, There is not really an outcome there. As far as I know it got in for ps3 stuff. Not sure one would still need it. I would leave it in for now and thought to get in touch with Ben. But given the unclear heritage I thought it would not really be useful to approach him without being able to fill in a bit of background,. | 10:50 |
| caribou | pitti: regarding ddebs mirroring, I only mirror {flavor} & {flavor}-updates. Should I include the security bits ? | 10:53 |
| pitti | caribou: in many cases they should be identical; it certainly cannot hurt to mirror them | 10:53 |
| pitti | caribou: at least until we get ddebs into the LP librarian | 10:53 |
| caribou | pitti: ok, I will see if I have enough diskspace to get them | 10:53 |
| smb | caribou, pitti, Sorry if I missed the info in the various thread, but if the reason for the disappearance is found, can you also bring back the Lucid and Oneiric ddebs from updates/security (both the same in those cases) | 10:57 |
| jaaso | Should I bulid anything else except nux for latest unity, unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/#build-unity. Still have damn problem with this line of code from BGHash.cpp "DECLARE_LOGGER(logger, "unity.bghash");" | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | jaaso: #ubuntu-unity might be more likely to contain experts | 11:06 |
| jaaso | cjwatson, thanks. | 11:06 |
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| apw | cjwatson, this signing data, so reading the FHS i think /usr/lib/linux might be an appropriate place, as the signatures are architecture specific and overlap i386/amd64 | 11:07 |
| apw | cjwatson, now ... that brings up a question, now that the kernel is multi-arch are the binary names in /boot wrong as they can clash across multi-arch architectures | 11:08 |
| pitti | apw, caribou: put the 3.2.0-32.51 .ddebs back to http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/, thanks! I'm rebuilding package indexes now and then see what is wrong with that | 11:08 |
| apw | pitti, great ... | 11:08 |
| cjwatson | apw: The kernel is only Multi-Arch: foreign, not Multi-Arch: same, so doesn't have to worry about coinstallation across multiple architectures | 11:09 |
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| apw | cjwatson, ahh ok, of course | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | (Or is it even that? It perhaps should be, but linux-image-3.5.0-18-generic doesn't seem to have that header here) | 11:10 |
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| cjwatson | Anyway, it's multiarch-installable, which is more about the kernel's dependencies than the kernel itself | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | apw: I agree that /usr/lib/linux is reasonable if you don't have any other suitable existing directory | 11:11 |
| apw | cjwatson, is it reasonable to use a srcpackage prefix in /usr/lib ? | 11:11 |
| cjwatson | Yes | 11:11 |
| cjwatson | It only matters that it not clash with other stuff | 11:11 |
| * apw rechecks | 11:11 | |
| cjwatson | And /usr/lib/linux/ is unused | 11:11 |
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| cjwatson | So you should be fine there | 11:12 |
| apw | i suppose i could dump it in the /lib/modules/<version> directory too | 11:12 |
| apw | bu then we'd have to worry about clashes with kmod thinking on the meanings | 11:13 |
| apw | why is naming the hardest part | 11:13 |
| cjwatson | I don't see any reason this would need to be in /lib | 11:13 |
| apw | no there would be no reason to need it early | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | /boot is needed by the boot loader, and /lib is needed during early boot; this is only needed when installing the package, so /usr | 11:14 |
| apw | sold to the man in the hat | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | And it's architecture-dependent as you say so /usr/lib | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | Seems like fairly solid reasoning :) | 11:14 |
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| pitti | apw, smb: they are back in http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages as well now | 11:39 |
| pitti | so something is wrong with the cleanup apparently | 11:39 |
| pitti | they do appear, and then disappear after some time | 11:39 |
| apw | pitti, want us to look at the logic ? | 11:52 |
| pitti | apw: if you want, sure; it's on my list for today as well, just finishing up with gvfs | 11:54 |
| pitti | but more eyes are always better | 11:54 |
| apw | heh except when they arn't :) | 11:54 |
| pitti | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~pitti/+junk/ddeb-retriever/files | 11:55 |
| pitti | hm, I ought to add quantal for ports, argh | 11:55 |
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| mlankhorst | hm so maybe I picked up something from uds after all :( | 12:03 |
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| scott-work | is there a convention to mark blueprints for previous releases as 'obsolete' or otherwise? | 12:42 |
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| mdeslaur | @pilot in | 12:59 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Open | Dev' of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and dicussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: mdeslaur | ||
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| * dholbach hugs mdeslaur | 13:02 | |
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| caribou | smb: can I drag you in a mumble discussion with arges on crash ? | 13:18 |
| caribou | s/on crash/about crash/ | 13:18 |
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| menace | is there any document which describes the various codewords in release-files in .deb-repositories? | 13:38 |
| menace | like FakeCodename, Origin, Suite, Pull or stuff like that? | 13:38 |
| herton | @pilot in | 13:39 |
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| cjwatson | Never heard of either FakeCodename or Pull | 13:40 |
| pitti | xnox: OOI, what does http://launchpadlibrarian.net/122171219/ubuntu-drivers-common_1%3A0.2.71ubuntu1_1%3A0.2.71ubuntu2.diff.gz do? | 13:40 |
| pitti | xnox: also, I'll drop the ${python3:Depends} again; nvidia-common is a transitional pacakge, and dh-modaliases is perl | 13:42 |
| menace | cjwatson: we need that because of building against codename, but distributing than for codename/x.y.z AND codename/x.v.z... problems are reoccurring with that. :) | 13:42 |
| pitti | xnox: --shebang isn't documented in dh_python3, and I haven't seen it before | 13:43 |
| cjwatson | I actually can't find any particularly obvious documentation of the Release file right now | 13:44 |
| pitti | xnox: ah, so previously it said #! /usr/bin/python3.3 | 13:44 |
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| cjwatson | Some of it is sort of documented indirectly in apt_preferences(5) | 13:45 |
| menace | where do you look for it? i already tried to look through the blueprints, but there are too much with "repository" in it :D | 13:45 |
| cjwatson | Actually fairly directly | 13:45 |
| OdyX | menace, cjwatson: Debian #671503 | 13:45 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 671503 in debian-policy "document APT repository format" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/671503 | 13:45 |
| cjwatson | under "Determination of Package Version and Distribution Properties" | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | menace: The Release file format predates Ubuntu, so there's no point looking for it in Ubuntu bluepritns | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | *blueprints | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | 'man apt_preferences' is the best I can find | 13:46 |
| menace | ah, that are a few starting points, thx :) | 13:47 |
| OdyX | menace: in particular, jak's http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671503#67 | 13:47 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 671503 in debian-policy "document APT repository format" [Wishlist,Open] | 13:47 |
| OdyX | menace: which then leads to http://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat | 13:48 |
| cjwatson | Ah, excellent, yes | 13:48 |
| OdyX | :) | 13:49 |
| menace | Thank you, that looks quite right! :-) | 13:50 |
| pitti | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic | 13:56 |
| pitti | WARNING: could not open /tmp/mkinitramfs_OiW40C/lib/modules/3.5.0-18-generic/modules.builtin: No such file or directory | 13:56 |
| pitti | apw: ^ should this worry me? | 13:57 |
| pitti | apw: it's (one of two) reasons why ubuntu-drivers-common's autopkgtest currently fails | 13:57 |
| apw | pitti, no not really, it is wrong, it is a bug in initramfs-tools which i thought infinity had a fix for | 13:58 |
| pitti | so is it okay to leave that as a failure for now? | 13:58 |
| pitti | instead of ignoring, I mean | 13:58 |
| apw | it is wrong but not the end of any worlds, we should have that file in there but we can live without | 13:58 |
| apw | yeah, i recon | 13:58 |
| * pitti uploads the other half of the fix in bcmwl | 13:59 | |
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| cjwatson | can anyone reproduce the python-apt/raring-proposed build failure? | 14:21 |
| cjwatson | I can't make it happen in a local sbuild | 14:21 |
| xnox | pitti: yeah need to open a bug about documentation. It's not in the manpage, but it is in the dh_python3 --help | 14:27 |
| xnox | pitti: sorry about extra ${python3:Depends} dpkg-gencontrolled complained about unused substitute variables, maybe dh_python3 should be run with "-pubuntu-drivers-common" or something. | 14:29 |
| xnox | pitti: feel free to revert any bits, as long as the shebang end's up as python3 on the python scripts =) | 14:29 |
| pitti | xnox: yep, I kept that bit and committed it to git | 14:29 |
| pitti | doing a few other fixes now | 14:29 |
| xnox | cool. | 14:30 |
| Laney | cjwatson: yeah, fails that way here | 14:30 |
| Laney | @pilot in | 14:30 |
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| Laney | herton: mdeslaur: How can we avoid colliding? :-) | 14:30 |
| mdeslaur | Laney: uhm, let's just say here what we're looking at | 14:31 |
| mdeslaur | herton, Laney: I'm working on vim and rhythmbox | 14:31 |
| herton | Laney, don't worry about me, I can just look on kernel bugs | 14:31 |
| Laney | ok | 14:31 |
| Laney | I'll start from the bottom | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | Laney: any chance I could impose on you to figure out what's going wrong, since it's hard to do so without a reproducer? | 14:32 |
| herton | s/just/only | 14:32 |
| Laney | cjwatson: piloting now, but I will later if and when I get the chance | 14:34 |
| xnox | pitti: jodh: bug 1075976 | 14:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1075976 in upstart (Ubuntu) "test-suite fails in autopkgtest environment" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1075976 | 14:36 |
| xnox | have fun =)))) I'm stuck. | 14:36 |
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| jodh | xnox: looking... | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | Laney: I'm trying with one of the official chroots now to see if it's some tedious discrepancy at that level | 15:02 |
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| Laney | cjwatson: mine were created with mk-sbuild FWIW | 15:02 |
| cjwatson | So were mine | 15:02 |
| Laney | ho hum | 15:03 |
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| mdeslaur | Laney: I'll take php5 LP: #1069529 | 15:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1069529 in php5 (Ubuntu) "Regression in system fallback for date_default_timezone_get()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069529 | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | Laney: I can't even reproduce this with the official i386 chroot :-( | 15:26 |
| Daviey | cjwatson: you grabbed the chroot from LP? | 15:33 |
| cjwatson | Yes | 15:35 |
| Daviey | cjwatson: I had a FTBFS last year that i could not reproduce locally using the locally generated chroot with either pbuilder or sbuild.. Grabbing the one from LP, i could reproduce with one of the build tools.. but not both.. can't remember which now. | 15:35 |
| infinity | pinky: Merging initramfs-tools will fix that, I'll get to that today. | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | guessing you mean pitti | 15:40 |
| pinky | me too | 15:41 |
| infinity | pitti: ^ | 15:41 |
| infinity | cjwatson: I sure did. | 15:41 |
| * infinity has never made that tab-completion mistake before... | 15:41 | |
| tazz | Hey, in unity if my application uses the system notification which requires user action, would i be able to do that? | 15:53 |
| xnox | tazz: app-development on ubuntu -> #ubuntu-app-devel . And yes, a gtk fallback dialog with buttons will be shown instead of a translucent bubble. | 15:56 |
| xnox | tazz: in general don't do that, instead color your indicator read and have a red menu/action item there. | 15:56 |
| doko | are CFLAGS etc still exported by dpkg-buildpackage? | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | Not as of quantal | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | specifically dpkg 1.16.1.2ubuntu8 | 16:07 |
| doko | but by dh_auto_build apparently :-/ | 16:09 |
| doko | $ DH_VERBOSE=1 debian/rules build | 16:09 |
| doko | dh build --buildsystem=autoconf | 16:09 |
| doko | debian/rules override_dh_auto_build | 16:09 |
| doko | make[1]: Entering directory `/home/packages/python/3.3/mpdecimal-2.3' | 16:09 |
| doko | env | grep CFLAGS | 16:09 |
| doko | CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security | 16:09 |
| doko | dh_auto_build | 16:09 |
| doko | make -j1 | 16:09 |
| doko | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/packages/python/3.3/mpdecimal-2.3' | 16:09 |
| doko | gcc -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -c basearith.c | 16:10 |
| doko | In file included from basearith.c:36:0: | 16:10 |
| doko | typearith.h:251:4: error: #error "need platform specific 128 bit multiplication and division" | 16:10 |
| doko | make[2]: *** [basearith.o] Error 1 | 16:10 |
| xnox | doko: but you can set an option for those to be exported. | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | doko: debhelper 9? | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | if so that's a feature | 16:11 |
| doko | gah ... how to turn this off? | 16:11 |
| xnox | cjwatson: rm -rf /etc/apt/preferences.d/ && debuild => fail like in the build log. | 16:11 |
| xnox | cjwatson: the error appears to be comming on stderr from apt itself since it's printed even after a $ apt-get update | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | doko: you can set DEB_CFLAGS_MAINT_STRIP in debian/rules to remove individual exports | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | xnox: huh, I thought I'd tried that | 16:12 |
| xnox | cjwatson: in a raring sbuild chroot. | 16:12 |
| xnox | I think I had the same weirdness with test-suite of apt-clone or something like that.... | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | ok, I'll give it another go, thanks | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | although the LP chroots contain /etc/apt/preferences.d/ (empty) | 16:14 |
| xnox | same here... but deleting it here, made the error appear.... dunno what's going on. | 16:16 |
| doko | cjwatson, not that useful, if the flags are taken in the configure step, upstream adds something to these, and then they are overwritten in the build step. I think I'll just use v8 and do the multiarch stuff myself | 16:17 |
| doko | DEB_CFLAGS_MAINT_STRIP is for removing stuff in an export, not removing the export afaics | 16:18 |
| ogra_ | jono, poke | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | doko: just export an empty CFLAGS then? | 16:20 |
| jono | hey ogra_ | 16:20 |
| jono | (otp) | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | doko: if the environment variable exists (not just is non-empty), debhelper won't touch it | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | jono, ping me when you are free | 16:20 |
| jono | ogra_, will do, feel free to type ina msg and I will respond when I can | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | jono, so i have this blueprint ... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-rebuild-gl-games-for-gles which is rather "get the community to pick low hanging fruit and make ubuntu prettier" than anything else ... the spec is currently desktop- but i think it would fit better under the community- umbrella | 16:22 |
| xnox | ogra_: isn't it motu stuff? | 16:23 |
| ogra_ | xnox, surely that as well | 16:23 |
| ogra_ | i think its bigger than just motu | 16:24 |
| ogra_ | after all it will stretch into main as well as debian | 16:24 |
| ogra_ | (i.e. the "Add good C/C++ practise to developer.ubuntu.com" likely is more than jst motu) | 16:25 |
| infinity | cjwatson: What chroot-related failure were you and Laney looking at? I'm having no luck with backscroll. | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | infinity: python-apt/raring-proposed | 16:25 |
| Laney | python-apt ftbfs | 16:25 |
| doko | cjwatson, yes but it doesn't help, it's already configured by the upstream configury | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | doko: uh, I mean at the top level of debian/rules | 16:25 |
| * infinity likes that it succeeds on the one arch that always fails. | 16:25 | |
| cjwatson | since that runs before configure there's no "already" | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | infinity: I guess that might indicate I could try throwing it against the wall a few times ... | 16:31 |
| infinity | cjwatson: If it's a race, it should probably be hunted down. | 16:31 |
| * infinity thinks the contents of /etc/apt/preferences.d is a red herring, since it's the same on all arches. | 16:32 | |
| cjwatson | Yeah | 16:32 |
| Laney | cjwatson: so I just managed to reproduce it on a cloud instance | 16:36 |
| Laney | raring on quantal didn't reproduce, but precise did | 16:36 |
| Laney | raring on precise, that is | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | wtf | 16:37 |
| Laney | I can just authorized_keys you up if you like | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | please | 16:37 |
| xnox | cjwatson: I am raring on raring. | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | Laney: racy or every time? | 16:37 |
| Laney | only tried once | 16:38 |
| * Laney does again | 16:38 | |
| Laney | I tried thrice or so on my system here though, failed every time | 16:38 |
| Laney | ssh ubuntu@10.55.63.164 | 16:39 |
| Laney | yeah, just failed again | 16:41 |
| * cjwatson tries | 16:42 | |
| cjwatson | argh, other sbuild instances have the normal upstream default of purging the session on failure :) | 16:45 |
| xnox | cjwatson: schroot, then build... =)))))) | 16:46 |
| cjwatson | Or I could just use -p never --purge-session never | 16:46 |
| Laney | just change .sbuildrc | 16:47 |
| Laney | this is the one that mk-sbuild auto-generates :-) | 16:47 |
| cjwatson | *shrug* my second build's already in progress so y'all can stop bikeshedding me :) | 16:47 |
| * Laney slinks off back to the queue | 16:48 | |
| cjwatson | So /etc/apt/preferences.d/ is indeed definitely a red herring; creating that directory in the test environment makes no difference apart from silencing the warning | 16:57 |
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| xnox | cjwatson: and the tests still fail? interesting. | 17:01 |
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| mterry | stgraber, hello! As discussed before 12.10's release, deja-dup now has separate metapackages for its supported backends, and the ubuntuone backend is not installed by default. So edubuntu can seed the backend it prefers (I assume deja-dup-backend-s3) | 17:22 |
| mterry | stgraber, oh shoot | 17:22 |
| mterry | stgraber, it wasn't edubuntu... it was gnome3 I think. ^ jbicha | 17:22 |
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| stgraber | mterry: yeah, sounds like gnome3, we have ubuntuone in edubuntu :) | 17:24 |
| mterry | stgraber, and no deja-dup I believe :) | 17:24 |
| stgraber | mterry: hmm, no, we should have it, we inherit from ubuntu-desktop | 17:25 |
| mterry | oh. seeded-in-ubuntu deja-dup only gave me the daily-live | 17:25 |
| jbicha | mterry: yeah, edubuntu-desktop depends on ubuntu-desktop | 17:25 |
| stgraber | mterry: ah yeah, seeded-in-ubuntu doesn't know that we seed it as edubuntu didn't get a succesful dvd build yet for raring | 17:26 |
| mterry | ah fair enough | 17:26 |
| mterry | jbicha, anyway, hopefully the gnome3 seeds can be done more nicely now wrt deja-dup | 17:26 |
| SpamapS | slangasek: Where do we stand with upstart jobs alongside init scripts in Debian packages? | 17:34 |
| superm1 | can an archive admin axe the build of mythtv in raring proposed? looking over the build log, something is wrong with it - it shouldn't be producing a NEW libmyth 0.27 binary package - it should be a NEW libmyth 0.26, so I need to investigate a little closer what went wrong with the build scripts | 17:43 |
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| Laney | diwic: is bug #973014 comment #76 the thing to sponsor there? | 18:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 973014 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 (Ubuntu Quantal) "gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, (libgstvideoparsersbad.so), causes a failure to decode many common video files encoded as AVC 1 Baseline - L2.1, Baseline - L1.1 & others" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973014 | 18:01 |
| Laney | and is it fixed in R? | 18:01 |
| Laney | actually, I'd like some information about the origin of the patch in DEP3 headers if you can provide that | 18:02 |
| SpamapS | Specified release (raring) not known to debootstrap | 18:02 |
| slangasek | SpamapS: the infrastructure is all in place so that you can put them in the Debian package and debhelper (and friends) will DTRT; the only outstanding bit is that if someone happens to actually be running upstart in Debian, it will probably break for them | 18:02 |
| SpamapS | shouldn't we have already SRU'd that to quantal? :p | 18:03 |
| Laney | we did | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | slangasek: oh.. thats unfortunate. | 18:03 |
| slangasek | SpamapS: (because upstart in Debian is still ancient, for a little while longer, and therefore uninteresting for anyone to run) | 18:03 |
| * SpamapS checks for updates | 18:03 | |
| Laney | not been promoted to updates yet | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | slangasek: I'm just thinking to resolve package deltas | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | Laney: ahhh | 18:04 |
| Laney | maybe it should be done early though, given the amount people are complaining | 18:04 |
| * SpamapS now wonders why he's not running -proposed | 18:04 | |
| slangasek | SpamapS: at this point I think you should probably feel free to push those jobs to Debian | 18:04 |
| SpamapS | slangasek: sweet! | 18:04 |
| SpamapS | slangasek: that was the last bit preventing resolving the delta for mysql. :) | 18:05 |
| slangasek | SpamapS: because as soon as my udev NMU goes in (currently in DELAYED), I'll upload the new upstart and we'll be good | 18:05 |
| SpamapS | slangasek: Seems I'll finally be able to switch my Debian VM to upstart! :) | 18:06 |
| Laney | @pilot out | 18:11 |
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| mdeslaur | @pilot out | 18:12 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Open | Dev' of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and dicussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: herton | ||
| GunnarHj | herton: Hi Herton! | 18:17 |
| GunnarHj | herton: Saw that you are piloting... I have a few items in the sponsorship queue, and the most urgent are the MP + SRUs at http://pad.lv/875435, since they affect quite a few Asian users. It's really the SRUs that are interesting, but I suppose we should do it in the right order. Do you have time to take a look? The MP is reviewed and approved. | 18:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 875435 in OEM Priority Project precise "iBus indicator does not show on the panel" [Medium,In progress] | 18:17 |
| herton | GunnarHj, sorry, I can only look into kernel bugs | 18:18 |
| GunnarHj | herton: Aha, didn't know that. Guess it has to wait til tomorrow, then. | 18:18 |
| herton | @pilot out | 18:22 |
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| bdmurray | @pilot in | 18:44 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Open | Dev' of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and dicussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: bdmurray | ||
| sarnold | GunnarHj: pssst new pilot arrived :) | 18:47 |
| GunnarHj | sarnold: Thanks! :) | 18:48 |
| sarnold | :) | 18:49 |
| GunnarHj | bdmurray: Hi Brian! | 18:59 |
| GunnarHj | bdmurray: Saw that you are piloting... I have a few items in the sponsorship queue, and the most urgent are the MP + SRUs at http://pad.lv/875435, since they affect quite a few Asian users. It's really the SRUs that are interesting, but I suppose we should do it in the right order. Do you have time to take a look? The MP is reviewed and approved. | 18:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 875435 in OEM Priority Project precise "iBus indicator does not show on the panel" [Medium,In progress] | 18:59 |
| bdmurray | GunnarHj: sure, just a moment | 19:01 |
| GunnarHj | bdmurray: Great! :) | 19:01 |
| sarnold | GunnarHj :) | 19:02 |
| GunnarHj | sarnold: Your tip was fruitful. Thanks again! ;-) | 19:02 |
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| bdmurray | GunnarHj: okay, I've had a look and it seems fine | 19:23 |
| GunnarHj | bdmurray: Great. Do you have upload right? | 19:24 |
| bdmurray | GunnarHj: I do indeed | 19:25 |
| GunnarHj | bdmurray: Then, could you upload both to raring and to -proposed for the stable releases? | 19:26 |
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| bdmurray | GunnarHj: right, I'll do that | 19:27 |
| GunnarHj | bdmurray: I prepared separate branches for O, P and Q. | 19:27 |
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| darkxst | bdmurray, are you able to take a look at this sru https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1073724? | 19:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1073724 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Pointer barriers have gaps along the edge of the screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:44 |
| bdmurray | darkxst: for the SRU to be considered for quantal the bug first needs to be fixed in the development release (raring in this case) | 19:51 |
| bdmurray | darkxst: otherwise the bug description looks good | 19:52 |
| bdmurray | darkxst: also did you try to determine why that patch was added and exists in the package? | 19:55 |
| darkxst | bdmurray, that patch does the sticky edges in unity | 19:56 |
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| darkxst | i.e. pointer barriers with a velocity threshold | 19:58 |
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| darkxst | bdmurray, I will test it under raring then | 20:07 |
| bdmurray | darkxst: you might also check with the X developers in #ubuntu-x | 20:10 |
| darkxst | bdmurray, ok, will do | 20:14 |
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| yofel | cjwatson: hi, did you have a chance to look at the kubuntu packageset update? | 20:18 |
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| dobey | can sokmeone confirm for me that the only thing depending on desktopcouch in quantal/raring, is dmedia? | 20:26 |
| diwic | Laney, thanks for having a look - when I made the SRU for Q and P the R archive wasn't opened | 20:27 |
| micahg | dobey: yes, you can also use reverse-depends from ubuntu-dev-tools | 20:29 |
| diwic | Laney, still around? | 20:30 |
| dobey | micahg: right; just wanted secondary confirmation. :) | 20:30 |
| dobey | micahg: for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmedia/+bug/1076123 :) | 20:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1076123 in dmedia (Ubuntu Raring) "Remove desktopcouch from Ubuntu archives" [Undecided,New] | 20:31 |
| dobey | actually; i wonder if we could remove them from quantal also? :) | 20:33 |
| micahg | dobey: no | 20:33 |
| dobey | bribes with fun dip? :) | 20:33 |
| micahg | dobey: I've ack'd dmedia and desktopcouch is in your packageset, so you can go ahead and subscribe ubuntu-archive | 20:34 |
| dobey | dmedia is in my packageset? | 20:35 |
| micahg | dobey: that's not what I said... | 20:36 |
| dobey | oh | 20:36 |
| dobey | actually, i should add couchdb-glib to that too, probably | 20:39 |
| dobey | couchdb-glib isn't in the u1 packageset though | 20:40 |
| infinity | dobey: How does couchdb-glib relate? | 20:41 |
| dobey | infinity: it includes a C binding to desktopcouch. just realized removing desktopcouch might break that, so we should remove it as well (as nothing is using it any more, since apparently evolution-couchdb was already removed in quantal) | 20:42 |
| infinity | Yeah, nothing depends on it, not in Debian, etc. Check. | 20:42 |
| dobey | so, frabjous day! :) | 20:43 |
| infinity | dobey: Done. | 20:45 |
| dobey | infinity: thanks much | 20:45 |
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| barry | cr3: ping | 21:32 |
| cjwatson | yofel: done now | 21:34 |
| yofel | cjwatson: all there now, thanks a lot! | 21:35 |
| xnox | @pilot in | 21:44 |
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| cr3 | barry: pong, wazap? | 21:48 |
| barry | cr3: hi. i think i answered my own question. checkbox was ported to python3 in quantal, right? | 21:48 |
| cr3 | barry: yep | 21:49 |
| barry | cr3: awesome! i was just doing some blueprint gardening. thanks | 21:49 |
| cr3 | barry: we're really happy to have done our part in that effort | 21:49 |
| barry | cr3: very much appreciated | 21:49 |
| cr3 | barry: we'll be migrating to go during raring | 21:50 |
| barry | cr3: :( | 21:50 |
| cr3 | barry: j/k, wanted to see your reaction :) | 21:51 |
| * barry uncocks the hammer | 21:51 | |
| * cr3 walks back slowly | 21:51 | |
| barry | :-D | 21:51 |
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| bdmurray | @pilot out | 22:34 |
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| xnox | @pilot out | 23:00 |
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| mightyiam | hiiiiiiiii why does 'do-release-upgrade -d' on quantal doesn't give me a new release? | 23:36 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: ^^ metarelease update needed? | 23:36 |
| slangasek | mightyiam: do-release-upgrade queries a central server to find out about the availability of releases and their release/support status; it seems the server needs updated | 23:37 |
| mightyiam | thanks, steve | 23:38 |
| chilicuil | mightyiam: however you can replace 'quantal' for 'raring' in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to upgrade to raring | 23:38 |
| mightyiam | chilicuil, just like a good 'ole release upgrade in debian? even since ubuntu i'm using the upgrader tool. ok. thanks | 23:39 |
| slangasek | the release-upgrader is Strongly Recommended™, but particularly this early in the cycle a plain dist-upgrade should work fine | 23:40 |
| slangasek | janimo: hey there! how come you're using a native package for linux-nexus7? is there no "upstream" tarball to preserve? | 23:47 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: I'll have a look at metarelease | 23:51 |
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