| jtaylor | you can only sync if the ubuntu change is not needed anymore | 00:00 |
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| jtaylor | please explain why in the syncrequest | 00:00 |
| jtaylor | must leave, bye | 00:00 |
| arges | yup. need to push stuff to debian first before sync it seems | 00:03 |
| arges | likewise, time to make some dinner | 00:03 |
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| * ScottK sits back and waits for xnox to fix ALL the things. | 00:34 | |
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| ESphynx | W: libecerecom0: extended-description-line-too-long | 04:22 |
| ESphynx | I: libecerecom0: extended-description-is-probably-too-short | 04:22 |
| ESphynx | Seriously??? | 04:22 |
| micahg | hehe | 04:24 |
| micahg | ESphynx: pastebin please? | 04:24 |
| ESphynx | micahg of what? | 04:31 |
| ESphynx | The control file? | 04:31 |
| micahg | yes | 04:31 |
| ESphynx | https://raw.github.com/ecere/sdk/ppa/debian/debian/control | 04:31 |
| ESphynx | I'm in the process of reverting to my previous descriptions that I had myself carefully wrapped (To avoid these stupid lintian msgs I think) | 04:32 |
| ESphynx | in fact, I'm ready to commit it :P | 04:32 |
| micahg | ESphynx: wrap-and-sort is your friend | 04:32 |
| ESphynx | micahg: No it's not. | 04:33 |
| ESphynx | micahg: I ran it! | 04:33 |
| ESphynx | it didn't do $#1^ | 04:33 |
| micahg | hrm, I thought it did descriptions... | 04:33 |
| micahg | ESphynx: well, wrap at or before 80 char and you'll be fine | 04:33 |
| ESphynx | that's what I was told . that's why I bothered changing this at all | 04:33 |
| ESphynx | i was wrapping way before, but someone complained it was too short. | 04:33 |
| ESphynx | (wrapping too short) | 04:34 |
| ESphynx | "Those starting with a single space are part of a paragraph. Successive lines of this form will be word-wrapped when displayed. The leading space will usually be stripped off. The line must contain at least one non-whitespace character." | 04:35 |
| ESphynx | If the lines will be word wrapped, why does lintian still complain that they are short/long ? | 04:36 |
| ESphynx | A full stop -- that is a period eh? | 04:38 |
| ESphynx | wrap-and-sort does nothing with either the long lines, or the shortly wrapped lines | 04:40 |
| ESphynx | unless my wrap-and-sort is too old | 04:40 |
| micahg | ESphynx: I checked the man page, it doesn't say it does | 04:45 |
| ESphynx | ah :| guess one is just under that impression :P | 04:45 |
| ESphynx | Hey so say I want to target unstable instead of experimental , I just update the most recent entry in my changelog? | 04:45 |
| ESphynx | And for Ubuntu, if I want this to be an SRU, should I write raring or quantal in the new changelog entry? | 04:46 |
| ESphynx | or should the whole changelog say raring / unstable? | 04:48 |
| micahg | ESphynx: you can sync from unstable/experimental to raring | 04:53 |
| ScottK | ESphynx: It has to be fixed in raring before it can be an SRU. | 04:53 |
| ESphynx | ScottK: right... but I'm still keeping an ubuntu changelog for my Launchpad PPA | 05:06 |
| ESphynx | but in the Debian changelog, the last entry can say unstable, and the previous one experimental? | 05:06 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 05:11 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:00 |
| ESphynx | good morning =) | 08:16 |
| ESphynx | dholbach: where in the world are you? I always get your good morning wishes when when I'm staying up way too late =( | 08:16 |
| ESphynx | build issues tend to do that =( | 08:17 |
| dholbach | ESphynx, Berlin, Germany | 08:18 |
| ESphynx | ah =) I'm in canada | 08:24 |
| astraljava | It's usually worrying enough if you're still up when pitti hails his morning wishes. If you're _still_ up when dholbach does, you know you're bad. :) | 08:58 |
| dholbach | ok, I've got to start earlier in the morning, best with pitti - to make people feel a bit less bad | 09:00 |
| astraljava | Well, most people need to snooze the alarm in the mornings, too, so I guess it might work when going to bed as well. :) | 09:01 |
| ESphynx | what would be the best way to install stuff ensuring directories 777 permissions is preserved? I want to copy my samples directory and the user needs writing permission in there... | 09:17 |
| cjwatson | that's a fairly explicit policy violation; my recommendation would be to find some other way to solve the problem | 09:35 |
| cjwatson | e.g. have the user take their own copy | 09:35 |
| ESphynx | cjwatson is it? only on directories though :| | 09:40 |
| ESphynx | it's just annoying if the user open up a sample and it doesn't build because the makefile can't be generated... | 09:40 |
| cjwatson | It's a policy violation because it means that on a multi-user system the contents of that directory are completely untrustable | 09:41 |
| cjwatson | Every other package I can think of like this documents that the user needs to take their own copy in order to play with it | 09:42 |
| cjwatson | I recommend doing the same | 09:42 |
| ESphynx | hmm | 09:42 |
| ESphynx | well I'll keep this for my make install | 09:42 |
| ESphynx | but I'll consider doing something different if DEB_PKG is defined | 09:42 |
| ESphynx | though I don't know how I could inform the user :S | 09:43 |
| cjwatson | put a README in the same directory? | 09:43 |
| ESphynx | yeah most uers don't read README :P | 09:43 |
| cjwatson | tough | 09:43 |
| ESphynx | first thing I should is improve on that error | 09:43 |
| cjwatson | I certainly consider anything in the Ubuntu archive that ships mode 777 directories to be critically buggy, although it's not something we scan for | 09:44 |
| ESphynx | right now it's really bad | 09:44 |
| ESphynx | OK I'll keep note of that :P | 09:44 |
| ESphynx | Is that something I should fix right now? even though it's 4:44 AM and i've been trying to get this package update ready the whole day? =) | 09:44 |
| cjwatson | It must be fixed before it can go into the Ubuntu archive, although surely dh_fixperms overrides the permissions to something sane anyway | 09:45 |
| ESphynx | lintian doesn't warn about it , btw | 09:45 |
| ESphynx | it's already in the Ubuntu archive... | 09:45 |
| cjwatson | package name? | 09:45 |
| ESphynx | is that gonna get me an auto-deletion | 09:45 |
| ESphynx | :P | 09:45 |
| ESphynx | if it's really considered critical, I'll fix it for this package i'm building today | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | if this is ecere-samples, I'm not seeing any mode 777 directories in the version in the archive | 09:46 |
| ESphynx | It is ecere-samples :P | 09:47 |
| cjwatson | then there is no bug right now as far as I can see; the samples directories aren't world-writable | 09:47 |
| cjwatson | which would also explain why lintian isn't saying anything | 09:48 |
| ESphynx | ok... in fact i had other dirs which I did not mean to be world-writable world-writable, and samples were not... but the pkg install might be overriding that | 09:48 |
| cjwatson | as I say, dh_fixperms generally overrides non-policy-compliant permissions | 09:49 |
| ESphynx | right. | 09:50 |
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| bdrung | dholbach: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring-stats/ seems to be not updated for the last few weeks | 11:21 |
| dholbach | yes, I noticed | 11:21 |
| dholbach | it's on my list | 11:21 |
| bdrung | okay | 11:21 |
| bdrung | dholbach: thanks for writing the sponsors queue alert | 11:22 |
| dholbach | anytime | 11:22 |
| * dholbach goes and schedules the next month of pilots | 11:22 | |
| * bdrung made sure that there are no open sync requests | 11:23 | |
| Laney | dholbach: are you able to set reminders when you schedule pilots? | 11:42 |
| Laney | I just found out I missed mine yesterday :( | 11:43 |
| Laney | a reminder that morning would have been cool beans | 11:43 |
| * Laney will do it this afternoon instead | 11:43 | |
| dholbach | Laney, it depends on how you set up google cal I think | 11:43 |
| dholbach | the script I use sets up a reminder | 11:43 |
| Laney | it had a 1 day one, which I assume was done by you | 11:43 |
| Laney | but that's long enough that I forgot :( | 11:44 |
| Laney | I should have moved it to a specific part of the day - will do that in future | 11:45 |
| dholbach | the 1-day reminder is done by a script | 11:46 |
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| roaksoax | /win 3 | 14:11 |
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| Quintasan | bdrung: nudge to sign my key | 17:53 |
| bobweaver | Hello there awesome motu people :) I have a simple question about packaging plugin's for say gimp. (making example brb) | 18:03 |
| bobweaver | say I want to make this into a package http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-labs/gimp-qmlexporter/blobs/master/qmlexporter.py | 18:04 |
| bobweaver | that has to go to ~/.gimp/plugins/ right but that is under the users home dir is that not allowed in debian policy ? | 18:04 |
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| bobweaver | how to get around something like that ? | 18:04 |
| jtaylor | when something needs to go into home it should do so at runtime | 18:05 |
| jtaylor | e.g. on first run | 18:05 |
| bobweaver | jtaylor, sorry I am not sure that I understand. Are you saying that I should write some sorta something that says, if 1st time launched do X ? If so how to do something like that ? thanks | 18:06 |
| tumbleweed | why not just install it into /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins ? does it *have* to be in the user's plugin dir? | 18:06 |
| tumbleweed | (that's just a guess as to the corret plugin dir, but I'm assuming there's a system wide one for python plugins...) | 18:07 |
| bobweaver | tumbleweed, IDNK but what I do know is that you are awesome and that should work I would think | 18:07 |
| bobweaver | that is what I also thought but I was un-sure if there was and also pondering the idea of having to put something in $HOME | 18:07 |
| bobweaver | I love this Channel !!!! | 18:07 |
| tumbleweed | heh | 18:08 |
| bobweaver | Thanks jtaylor and tumbleweed | 18:08 |
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| bobweaver | Hello its me again :) would someone be so kind to look over this setup.py (it is my 1st one ever) I am not sure what the last line does but it was in a example so I left it there thanks again :) | 18:40 |
| bobweaver | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1340531/ | 18:40 |
| jtaylor | is the license correct? | 18:44 |
| bobweaver | yeah it is gpl3 | 18:44 |
| bobweaver | or at least that is what header says in script | 18:45 |
| jtaylor | shouldn#t it be GPLv3+ then? | 18:45 |
| bobweaver | had to dig to find email | 18:45 |
| bobweaver | Not sure jtaylor this is 1st time with setup.py I was using example from ..... | 18:45 |
| bobweaver | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/unity-scope-mythtv/view/head:/setup.py | 18:46 |
| jtaylor | hm pypi has 3415 gpls and only 8 GPLv2+ so probably nobody cars | 18:46 |
| jtaylor | I'd still stick with the correct string | 18:46 |
| bobweaver | I would love too | 18:46 |
| bobweaver | that is why I am here is to ask these questions I really want to learn 'why' things are done and best practice | 18:47 |
| bobweaver | I am changing that line | 18:47 |
| bobweaver | This is what I have atp | 18:47 |
| bobweaver | license="GNU General Public License 3(GPLv3)", | 18:47 |
| bobweaver | Looking good ? | 18:48 |
| jtaylor | is it v3 or v3+? | 18:48 |
| bobweaver | Not sure good question | 18:49 |
| jtaylor | v3 only is not good | 18:49 |
| jtaylor | if there is an incompatible v4 you'Re screwed | 18:49 |
| bobweaver | wowie wowie that would not be good | 18:49 |
| bobweaver | thanks again jtaylor :) | 18:50 |
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| bobweaver | watch file goes as such | 19:12 |
| bobweaver | version=1 | 19:12 |
| bobweaver | https://github.com/qt-labs/gimp-qmlexporter/tags .*/tarball/(\d[\d\.]+) | 19:12 |
| bobweaver | any good ? | 19:12 |
| bobweaver | my 1st watch file ^^^ | 19:12 |
| bobweaver | oh i see error | 19:13 |
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| bobweaver | Yes it all worked ! Now how do I get this into debian so that it can make its way to Ubuntu ? | 19:25 |
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| mfisch | Laney: I responded to your comment on the tiff3 update | 20:19 |
| bdrung | Quintasan: signing the keys is on my todo list. :) have you signed mine? *hint, hint* | 20:36 |
| ajmitch | so impatient :) | 20:37 |
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| alo21 | hi | 21:52 |
| alo21 | can someone says me if davfs2 could be dropped? | 21:52 |
| alo21 | debian: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/davfs2/current/changelog LP: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/davfs2/1.4.6-1ubuntu3 | 21:53 |
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