[05:22] morning peeps [05:30] good morning Kilos [05:30] morning inetpro jrgns [05:31] the 3g auto connect bug has kept peeps busy for a while hey [05:31] just mailed the latest workaround to our lists [05:32] you wet the bed inetpro ? === superfly_ is now known as superfly [06:15] oh my hi superfly [06:15] net messing around [06:15] hi Kilos [06:19] O_O morning all [06:19] hi bakuman [06:20] :D [06:22] oh thats same as :-D [06:22] i gotta go look on pidgin what they are [06:22] ian must think im mad [06:24] Morning everyone [06:24] good morning mazal [06:30] hi mazal you having probs hey [06:30] Lo oom Kilos , sjoe ja [06:31] I'm ok now , back on 12.04 , but the future not looking good [06:31] what pc you got that you battling so much [06:31] wb jrgns you got sick net again [06:32] mazal, have you tried kde [06:32] or you also a gnome person [06:33] Kilo's that's the worst of it all , I have a brand new pc with proper hardware. I5 , 16gig ram , Radeon HD 5450 1 gig [06:33] Yeah I was on KDE before , but didn't like it much [06:33] wow that must fly [06:34] Yeah on 12.04 it's very sweet :) [06:34] pfff, that's entry level O_O [06:34] lol compared to me bakuman [06:34] just joking, better than mine :D [06:35] what problems did you have mazal? hw drivers? [06:35] dont you read our lists bakuman ? [06:36] no, i'm too lazy [06:36] lol [06:36] I just use them of my name was mentioned [06:36] hi SmilyBorg_w [06:36] Maaz: coffee please [06:36] inetpro: There isn't a pot on [06:37] put it on damnit! [06:37] i learned lots from other peeps fixes in the mails [06:37] lol [06:37] Maaz: coffee on [06:37] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [06:37] Maaz, coffee on [06:37] Kilos: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup [06:37] eish [06:37] * inetpro woke up to early this morn [06:37] Maaz, coffee please [06:37] Kilos: Okay [06:37] i noticed [06:38] Kilos, you meen mailing list? [06:38] yes bakuman [06:38] not on the list, link? [06:38] mazal, been trying to get help there fo a while now [06:38] sec [06:38] MOAAARRR spam [06:38] no man our list is clean [06:38] haha [06:39] pff not after I join :D [06:39] ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com [06:39] well flame war you [06:39] we'll :D [06:40] we got some good hackers here they crack you up [06:40] hohoho D: [06:41] Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! [06:41] Maaz, dankie man [06:41] Groot plesier my vriend [06:41] Maaz: dankie oom [06:41] inetpro: What? [06:41] ai [06:42] ek maak reg [06:42] stadig vandag [06:42] Maaz, dankie oom [06:42] Geniet boetie [06:42] lol [06:43] yo nlsthzn [06:43] wb [06:44] alo uncle Kilos === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:50] * nlsthzn has Steam for Linux installed [06:51] * Kilos making cully and lice for next 3 days [06:52] funyy we got no chinese visit here [06:52] funny too [06:52] and our ruskies have deserted [06:53] * nlsthzn could murder a currie right now [06:53] curry even [06:54] ya [06:54] pull in [06:54] you havent tried my recipe nlsthzn [06:55] only the peeps on pidgin have [06:55] no uncle Kilos ... [06:55] nlsthzn, so you got accepted to the beta? :( [06:55] nope bakuman [06:55] you want in? [06:55] yes :D [06:55] bakuman, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/reddit-users-bypass-valve-linux-beta-invitations [06:55] uncle Kilos , I use empathy [06:56] lol [06:56] i dunno if you will get the ingredients there [06:56] Oo [06:56] :D [06:56] I still can't get tf2 installed but I have a list of 18 linux games that I can install via Steam (all the Humble Bundle games I registered with steam) [06:58] ahh nice, I should have about hte same amount then [06:59] coo [06:59] *cool === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [07:43] Sweet [07:43] Xgnokii wouldn't get all the sms on the device [07:43] So I'm using Gnocky [07:44] Now I can check my sms while connected to 3G :) [07:45] And sending works too [07:45] Nice [07:51] where you found that trix [07:51] Trixar_za, [07:51] its a pain them smses on the 3g modem sim [07:52] i had to install modem on windows and then check them [07:53] Well, it uses gnokii [07:53] There is a trick to it [07:53] the prepaid-manager-applet shows available airtime, not data or smses [07:54] theres a trick to everything [07:55] but my modem is an alcatel anyway [07:55] http://www.getdeb.net/software/Gnocky [07:56] http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Config#From_other_vendors [07:56] I have a ZTE modem [07:56] but my experience is that I can use ttyUSB3 for 3G [07:56] and ttyUSB1 for SMS [07:56] mine be a STC [07:57] ty i look at links [07:57] Now I will never miss another sms [07:58] lol its a pain hey [07:58] I might have lost out on going to Linkin Park tonight because of it :( [07:58] Hence the reason I set this up [07:58] :P [07:58] aw [08:03] no alcatel modems shown [08:03] never mind [08:27] hello [08:39] hi Squirm y [08:56] good morning [08:57] wow i was so tired yesterday evening i didn't even log off :) [08:57] Maaz: coffee on [08:57] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:57] need some caffiene to wake up :P [09:01] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [09:06] hi charlvn [09:23] Kilos the guy I called is looking at it [09:23] trying to see what he can do [09:24] hey ty very much Symmetria , howd your presentation go? [09:28] Maaz: coffee please [09:28] Squirm: There isn't a pot on [09:28] Maaz: coffee on [09:28] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [09:28] Maaz, coffee please [09:28] Kilos: Righto === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [09:32] Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos! [09:32] Maaz, thanks [09:32] Kilos: Sure [09:32] Maaz: I wanted to cups :/ [09:32] Squirm: What? [09:32] but thanks [09:32] hehe [09:32] you fulla [09:33] what happene at the polo Squirm [09:33] you got beat? [09:33] maybe [09:34] maybe? [09:34] didnt you keep score === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [10:12] tumbleweed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1339422/ [10:12] hi Kilos [10:12] Maaz: thanks [10:12] charlvn: Okay :-) [10:14] hmm, bottom part got chopped off [10:14] tumbleweed: sorry this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1339433/ [10:14] tumbleweed: i don't know if this is a good solution or not, maybe it's ugly, but lemme know what you think [10:14] tumbleweed: basically i just rewrote what i did in java but into python [10:15] hmm [10:15] you do python too? [10:15] why didnt you do it in python to start with [10:15] Kilos: because i don't like it :) [10:15] Kilos: and i had some existing java code to build on top of [10:16] aha [10:16] you like nuvolari hes a java man [10:16] Kilos: just the way i have to print that exception to the stderr is very ugly [10:17] i dunno pretty from ugly in code [10:17] all ugly . hurts head [10:17] actually, i was doing that wrong, i had an extra print in there [10:17] this is the right way: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1339438/ [10:18] only noticed it now [10:18] but print_exception(*exc_info()) is very ugly [10:18] in java it's just exception.printStackTrace() [10:18] ok i'm off bbl [10:18] just as ugly man [10:18] later [10:38] Yay [10:38] I'm going to Linkin Park [10:38] whats happening there [10:46] charlvn: yeah, I'd like to avoid scraping if possible [10:58] nlsthzn, you like curry? [10:58] yup [10:58] do you get canned goods made by golddish or koo there [10:59] both made a great vegetable curry in cans you can enjoy straight outa the tin [10:59] or add to a mince you fried [11:01] or the canned goods there like saudi? you cant understand whats in them [11:01] hehe [11:02] zeref, no hmm today? [11:02] you sick [11:08] Kilos: lol [11:08] yeah something is in my throat [11:09] so hmmmm, sounds like hurrm&*%^%^#@#!%mmmmmm [11:12] we sometimes get some SA stuff but not easy [11:17] tumbleweed: yeah i thought as much; well anycase, that's what i managed to cook up :) [11:21] ls [11:21] gah!!! [11:21] :) [11:24] Is bakuman still around ? [11:26] nope O_O [11:26] Sorry man I see you asked me a question but I was running around all morning [11:27] Oh, I cannot remember :D [11:27] lol [11:27] You wanted to know what I was struggling with [11:27] ahh [11:28] about drivers with 12.10 and his i5 pc [11:28] Oom Kilos there was so may issues I can't even remember them all LOL [11:28] haha [11:28] lol [11:28] Some on 12.10 and 1 on 1.04 [11:28] 12.04 even [11:29] but when booting from cd it looks fine till you have installed hey? [11:29] 12.10 My issues were: dreadfully slow , extremely buggy , apps struggling to run or not running at all and Nvidia drivers not working [11:29] That was on the old dual core [11:30] Then the i5 caem and I went back to 12.04 [11:30] Only 1 issue there , can;t image at all [11:30] Neither Redo or clonezilla works [11:30] And I also picked up an issue for the future [11:30] Only unity 2d is available until I install the ATI drivers === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [11:31] ya i had same here with nvidia on 12.04 [11:31] So I wondered in version that don't have unity 2d at all , how one would install and get up and running to actually install the drivers [11:31] nvidia-current didnt even work, had to use nvidia 173 [11:31] So it has been a very frustrating and struggling week [11:32] they have another way [11:32] read mail [11:32] from peter nel [11:32] Now I am fine back on 12.04 , apart from imaging that don't work. And that can not be ubuntu related [11:32] Not that I know of [11:33] For imaging Kilos ? [11:34] no about the new way unity is gonna work without the 2d option [11:34] answer to your mail [11:35] Ah yes I have read that , sounds like it will do software rendering untill you install the divers , if I understand correctly [11:35] what is imaging? [11:35] Cloning [11:35] of what? [11:35] Making an image of the whole hdd [11:36] To restore in case of disaster [11:36] remastersys [11:36] No that makes an iso [11:36] For re-install [11:36] Imaging make a full duplicate [11:36] like dd [11:36] oh like raid drives [11:36] But dd not an option on a 2TB drive [11:37] whew thats large ya [11:37] I always used Redo , but that refuse to work now [11:37] Have no idea why [11:37] Even tried the latest clonezilla , no go [11:38] whats google say [11:38] So for now I will have to rely on my Remastersys .iso and rsynced backups of important data [11:38] Google say tons of apps for Windows , but only Redo , clonezilla and dd for linux [11:39] What I could find anyway , dunno if I missed one [11:39] no i mean if you google clonezilla and redo dont work [11:39] on 12.04 [11:39] maybe someone else has had same prob and been helped [11:40] I don't think it's an Ubuntu issue. Both of them is lice cd's you boot with. Ubuntu not even started whn you use it [11:40] ah [11:40] live even [11:40] lol [11:40] you dvd is faulty [11:41] try making a live usb stick [11:41] It works fine in Ubuntu. I burned dvd's with it , and read some other disks without an issue [11:41] ah [11:42] And clonezilla start up fine , so the dvd is ok. But when it actually starts the image it just says "an error occured" [11:42] Redo just hangs halfway booting [11:42] ai [11:42] Must be hardware related [11:42] But I don't know what [11:42] Both the source hdd and target hdd works fine in ubuntu during normal use [11:43] doesnt it give the option to report the prob [11:43] If either of those were faulty I would have issues in normal use as well. [11:44] I think I will have to a. look at these apps support forum or b. send them a message [11:44] yeah maybe they know about the issue [11:44] The only thing left that it can be is the m/board [11:45] Maybe neither is compatible [11:48] something in bios settings? [11:48] what you mean mb [11:50] or the way you got dvd connected [11:52] No I just mean that the software might not be compatible with my model m/board [11:53] Or maybe the dvd-rom doesn't like the type of disks [11:53] So many little things it can be [11:53] Things I'm gonna try a different make disc [11:54] interesting to work out what though [11:55] i actually battled to install 12.04 from my dvd here and brought a cdrom and went fine [11:55] tried 2 dvdrom [11:55] thats why i got kde onna stick [11:56] why not make an iso of the dvd and put onna stick [11:56] Good idea !! Never thought about that test [11:56] there must be a way around [11:57] Ok I'm gonna test both , try a different make disc and also the usb boot [12:19] This thing is just out to irritate me [12:20] Now it keeps mounting my stick as read-only , so I can't transfer the iso to it [12:22] lol [12:22] chown the stick [12:22] you like me. as jy kan sukkel , sal jy [12:22] hehe [12:23] Ubuntu refuse to do the chown or chmod [12:25] It completes the command without error , but the disk stays read-only and the permissions don't change **sug** [12:25] whats on the disc [12:26] nothing [12:26] path? [12:26] sudo chown mazal:mazal path to stick [12:27] how can the stick be the boss [12:27] Kilos, if something is mounted as read-only, you cannot just chown [12:28] Formatted it [12:28] Even tried deleting the partition and creating a new one [12:28] It stays read only [12:28] how you get around the prob then bakuman [12:28] hmm... mount if commandline as rw? [12:29] Nevermind , I quickly did it on my Windows pc [12:30] lol [12:30] At least there everything works [12:30] yo mixnovich [12:30] eeeeew [12:30] yo Kilos [12:30] Now when I boot with the stick I just get "boot error" [12:30] So there goes that plan anyway [12:30] USB doesn't work with redo [12:31] must work [12:32] you didnt get stick setup properly [12:32] use startup disk creator and check again [12:33] Yeg I'm getting really irritated with all still struggling the past week [12:33] Can't , Ubuntu refuse to use the disk' [12:34] oh my [12:34] Read only in ubuntu mos [12:34] Sjoe I have to go , very bad weather here [12:34] Big thunderstorm [12:35] what about the little switch on the stick [12:35] just went past here [12:35] There's no switch [12:35] 10 drops rain [12:35] Bye oom Kilo's , bye all , see you again [12:35] toods lad [12:44] bakuman, how can the stick decide whose the boss [12:45] the person who mounts it? i dont know O_O [12:46] hehe [13:30] afternoon all [13:31] hi [13:35] hi magespawn [13:35] whats up peeps? [13:36] temps [13:36] summer has arrived [13:36] whats up by you? === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] [13:41] not much fighting trying to get internet cafe software to run properly [13:42] ai [13:42] had a bit of rain, so has cooled down a bit [13:45] what kinda software magespawn [13:46] was trying mkahawa [13:47] what must the software do? === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero [13:49] wb Kerbero [14:02] magespawn, this kinda stuff [14:03] http://ptf.com/internet/internet+cafe+timer+ubuntu/ [14:04] let me see [14:05] oh maaz found more [14:05] http://www.filebuzz.com/findsoftware/Linux_Ubuntu_Cyber_Cafe_Debian_Files/1.html [14:06] what must it do time the peeps or what [14:08] or swear at them when they make mistakes [14:09] or do naughty things [14:11] yup and control the session and printing etc, there is also zencafe [14:13] sjoe you got your work cut out for you [14:19] Oom Kilos I have some quick feedback [14:19] tell mazal [14:19] Ubuntu startup disc creator doesn't work [14:20] It only excepts "certain" iso's [14:20] does it say why? [14:20] That's the way they build it I guess [14:20] did you use ubuntu to make the iso [14:20] So , back at home , on a different pc and different stick I tried unetbootin again [14:21] ok [14:21] This time it was successful [14:21] whew [14:21] This is the redo iso btw [14:21] BUT [14:21] Redo boots up from the usb now , but it doesn't even see my internal HDD [14:21] Not even when I go into gparted in Redo [14:21] oh my [14:21] It only see the stick [14:21] sata? [14:22] yep [14:22] So [14:22] eish they terrible things [14:22] I decided to try and boot parted magic [14:22] ok [14:22] Just for kicks to see what it can see [14:22] Parted magic boots up fine [14:22] And it sees my drive [14:23] I can browse it and all [14:23] So while stumbling about in pm's menus I saw it has clonezilla built-in [14:23] aha [14:23] So naturaly I ran it to see what is going to happen [14:24] lol [14:24] It ran without a problem [14:24]