[03:16] hey sorry to ask if i want to adopt the package "xchat" they told me to speak in here? [03:19] Aaron: so, what do you want to do with it? upstream development seems stalled [03:19] oh, [03:19] i though it was still alive [03:20] Aaron: if you know the package well, you could triage bugs for it [03:20] yeah [03:20] Aaron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage , also #ubuntu-bugs for help with that [03:24] Aaron: in fact, bug triage is one place we're especially shorthanded in Ubuntu since we don't have dedicated maintainers [03:24] you mean reporting bugs and such? [03:24] we inherit most of the packaging work from Debian [03:25] no, not reporting, triaging [03:25] oh [03:25] you mean fixing bugs and stuff like that. [03:25] we have 110k open bugs in Ubuntu and over 50% are in the new status which is usually untriaged [08:58] micahg: I submitted a mp to refresh update.cfg in xubuntu-meta just wanted to ping you since it seems like you have been doing that recently === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:55] bkerensa: whoever does the first meta update would do that anyways, and it's not worth an upload just for that [14:56] oh well, laney merged it [15:27] Whoa, was not aware that there is an android irc client [15:27] * bluesabre is ashamed [15:29] there are many [15:29] theres even weechat and irssi [15:31] knome: you about over the weekend or evenings [15:31] * micahg will probably forget about the UDD branch by the time we need to update the meta [16:42] elfy, i'm here now [16:42] elfy, but i should be around on the weekend too [17:50] sorry knome was miles away - figuratively speaking [17:50] heh, np [17:52] weekend will probably be better for me if that's ok - I just want to tie up this qa lead thing so I know what's expected from me :) [17:52] yup, np [17:52] just a quick note [17:52] we will have two betas [17:52] and do testing before that as needed - but we should have a relatively stable system for beta [17:52] so we might want to soft-schedule some testing sessions (with no freezes) [17:53] and the rest of the testing should be done after we've landed for example a new feature [17:53] yea - personally I think that 'constant' testing unless there is a specific need is better if we can do that [17:53] snap - my thoughts as well [17:53] ok, great [17:53] (actually some testing could already be done, specifically on menulibre and gtk-theme-preferences) [17:53] all the freezes will be later [17:53] (both available in ppas) [17:53] but we can't miss them this time [17:54] the release team will be much more prompt with the freezes [17:54] indeed not knome [17:54] at least they told they will, and i hope that's true ;) [17:54] because that's the only way the freezes have a (social) meaning [17:55] I'd agree - a freeze should be a freeze and if things miss then they miss [17:55] but apart from these things there shouldn't be much changing [17:55] but it's not April yet ;) [17:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule [17:56] yep - try and remember that I wasn't anything to do with QA or testing other than doing testing last time ;) [17:56] that's the WIP release schedule [17:56] heh, yeah, i will [17:56] just saying [17:56] :) [17:57] ochosi, you happy where the UIF landed? [17:57] ochosi, (week before b1) [17:57] ochosi, (and 5 before final release) [18:15] knome: think so, yeah [18:15] good [18:15] no whining later in the cycle then ;) [18:15] i mean in general i try to get things in early enough [18:16] so in previous cycles it was mostly stuff that ubuntu/canonical changed that affected us too and made late changes necessary [18:16] yup [18:16] that's why the freezes are pushed back [18:16] and they'll be the ones ignoring the freezes [18:17] and since we don't rely on that so much anymore (as we dropped unico) i don't think it's a problem [18:17] * elfy said quietly to himself [18:17] yeah, that happened sometimes [18:17] elfy, they won't be getting away with it this time. [18:17] * elfy took a screenshot :p [18:17] that's promised by the release team, and if that fails, i will make a lot of noise [18:17] good :) [18:18] it's not only the freezes happening later, it's also less freezes happening, so development can continue uninterrupted [18:19] yea - never really affected me for obvious reasons, but it makes a lot of sense logically [18:22] ok, i'm off for now [18:22] see you all later [18:22] and catch you on the weekend for a longer chat, elfy [18:22] yep that will be great :)