[03:16] <Aaron> hey sorry to ask if i want to adopt the package "xchat" they told me to speak in here?
[03:19] <micahg> Aaron: so, what do you want to do with it? upstream development seems stalled
[03:19] <Aaron> oh,
[03:19] <Aaron> i though it was still alive
[03:20] <micahg> Aaron: if you know the package well, you could triage bugs for it
[03:20] <Aaron> yeah 
[03:20] <micahg> Aaron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage , also #ubuntu-bugs for help with that
[03:24] <micahg> Aaron: in fact, bug triage is one place we're especially shorthanded in Ubuntu since we don't have dedicated maintainers
[03:24] <Aaron> you mean reporting bugs and such?
[03:24] <micahg> we inherit most of the packaging work from Debian
[03:25] <micahg> no, not reporting, triaging
[03:25] <Aaron> oh
[03:25] <Aaron> you mean fixing bugs and stuff like that.
[03:25] <micahg> we have 110k open bugs in Ubuntu and over 50% are in the new status which is usually untriaged
[08:58] <bkerensa> micahg: I submitted a mp to refresh update.cfg in xubuntu-meta just wanted to ping you since it seems like you have been doing that recently
[14:55] <micahg> bkerensa: whoever does the first meta update would do that anyways, and it's not worth an upload just for that
[14:56] <micahg> oh well, laney merged it
[15:27] <bluesabre> Whoa, was not aware that there is an android irc client
[15:27]  * bluesabre is ashamed
[15:29] <GridCube> there are many
[15:29] <GridCube> theres even weechat and irssi
[15:31] <elfy> knome: you about over the weekend or evenings 
[15:31]  * micahg will probably forget about the UDD branch by the time we need to update the meta
[16:42] <knome> elfy, i'm here now
[16:42] <knome> elfy, but i should be around on the weekend too
[17:50] <elfy> sorry knome was miles away - figuratively speaking
[17:50] <knome> heh, np
[17:52] <elfy> weekend will probably be better for me if that's ok - I just want to tie up this qa lead thing so I know what's expected from me :)
[17:52] <knome> yup, np
[17:52] <knome> just a quick note
[17:52] <knome> we will have two betas
[17:52] <knome> and do testing before that as needed - but we should have a relatively stable system for beta
[17:52] <knome> so we might want to soft-schedule some testing sessions (with no freezes)
[17:53] <knome> and the rest of the testing should be done after we've landed for example a new feature
[17:53] <elfy> yea - personally I think that 'constant' testing unless there is a specific need is better if we can do that
[17:53] <elfy> snap - my thoughts as well 
[17:53] <knome> ok, great
[17:53] <ochosi> (actually some testing could already be done, specifically on menulibre and gtk-theme-preferences)
[17:53] <knome> all the freezes will be later
[17:53] <ochosi> (both available in ppas)
[17:53] <knome> but we can't miss them this time
[17:54] <knome> the release team will be much more prompt with the freezes
[17:54] <elfy> indeed not knome 
[17:54] <knome> at least they told they will, and i hope that's true ;)
[17:54] <knome> because that's the only way the freezes have a (social) meaning
[17:55] <elfy> I'd agree - a freeze should be a freeze and if things miss then they miss
[17:55] <knome> but apart from these things there shouldn't be much changing
[17:55] <elfy> but it's not April yet ;)
[17:56] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[17:56] <elfy> yep - try and remember that I wasn't anything to do with QA or testing other than doing testing last time ;)
[17:56] <knome> that's the WIP release schedule
[17:56] <knome> heh, yeah, i will
[17:56] <knome> just saying
[17:56] <elfy> :)
[17:57] <knome> ochosi, you happy where the UIF landed?
[17:57] <knome> ochosi, (week before b1)
[17:57] <knome> ochosi, (and 5 before final release)
[18:15] <ochosi> knome: think so, yeah
[18:15] <knome> good
[18:15] <knome> no whining later in the cycle then ;)
[18:15] <ochosi> i mean in general i try to get things in early enough
[18:16] <ochosi> so in previous cycles it was mostly stuff that ubuntu/canonical changed that affected us too and made late changes necessary
[18:16] <knome> yup
[18:16] <knome> that's why the freezes are pushed back
[18:16] <elfy> and they'll be the ones ignoring the freezes
[18:17] <ochosi> and since we don't rely on that so much anymore (as we dropped unico) i don't think it's a problem
[18:17]  * elfy said quietly to himself 
[18:17] <ochosi> yeah, that happened sometimes
[18:17] <knome> elfy, they won't be getting away with it this time.
[18:17]  * elfy took a screenshot :p
[18:17] <knome> that's promised by the release team, and if that fails, i will make a lot of noise
[18:17] <elfy> good :)
[18:18] <knome> it's not only the freezes happening later, it's also less freezes happening, so development can continue uninterrupted
[18:19] <elfy> yea - never really affected me for obvious reasons, but it makes a lot of sense logically 
[18:22] <knome> ok, i'm off for now
[18:22] <knome> see you all later
[18:22] <knome> and catch you on the weekend for a longer chat, elfy 
[18:22] <elfy> yep that will be great :)