[02:10] <highnz> dc
[02:13] <urgodfather> hello room, can someone teach me to compile 1 dvd containing multiple videos in it? what should i use?
[02:16] <xwalk> I'm having some trouble with the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator under Kubuntu 12.04. The program isn't formatting the flash drive correctly. I tested this with two different mediums. Upon choosing to format the usb sticks, the program displays the loading graphic for a loading program and never finishes formatting.
[02:17] <robtygart> xwalk: try formating with PartitionManager
[02:17] <robtygart> I have had trouble with it too.
[02:17] <mysteriousdarren> or gparted
[02:18] <robtygart> mysterious...: gparted will not load on mine. I will launch it, it asks for root password, but never loads.
[02:20] <xwalk> robtygart: Do I just need to format it as ext4 in order to write to it with the Startup Disk Creator?
[02:21] <robtygart> yes that should work. Or fat32 as I recall.
[02:21] <robtygart> haven't done it in a while.
[02:22] <mysteriousdarren> robtygart: I had the same trouble then just reinstalled and it worked
[02:23] <robtygart> mysterious...: what do you think about xwalk's question? ext4?
[02:23] <robtygart> I will try and reinstall it. Thanks
[02:24] <xwalk> Using fat32 or ext4 is still making Startup Disk Creator prompt to have the drive erased before loading a system on it.
[02:24] <mysteriousdarren> xwalk: I would just use gparted and ext4.
[02:27] <xwalk> It seems that formatting using the Startup Disk Creator populates two more copies of the same usb stick as well.
[02:31] <mysteriousdarren> I always had trouble with it, try this. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:34] <robtygart> unetbootin can be downloaded from the software center
[02:46] <SaimonSL> Anyone know which motherboard should I buy for Kubuntu? I am looking for a motherboard that will support AMD  AM3+  | FX (8 Core CPU) and has 2 or more PCIE 2.0 16x, with 16GB of ram or more, FSB 2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s), USB 3.0 and SATA 2 (6GB) (I have SATA 3 256 GB SSD which actually writes at 520 MB/s sequential). My current ASUS motherboard does not work Kubuntu 12.10, as in the USB 2.0 and integrated LAN Realtek 81
[02:55] <SaimonSL> ah found one Asrock
[02:58] <muji> hello, any1 know how i can install the latest kubuntu right on top of my current ubuntu? right now i'm in 11.04 and would like to upgrade to latest without having to write it on cd
[03:01] <muji> any1?
[03:04] <xixor> muji: I'm no expert
[03:05] <xixor> but I think you'll want to upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 first, then just install kubuntu-desktop package, and I think you'll pretty much have kubuntu
[03:05] <xixor> though, I'm sure one of the experts in the channel will be here any second to tell me I'm wrong though
[03:05] <muji> lol lets hope so, im just awaiting an expert
[03:06] <muji> but like yea i wanted to upgrade right through linux, not needing a cd
[03:08] <xixor> well, there is a way to upgrade, google ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 upgrade, and it will just be a couple of commands to upgrade
[03:11] <muji> is there a way to see  which version of kubuntu i ahve?
[03:12] <xwalk> muji: In a terminal > cat /etc/os-release
[03:14] <muji> isn't it lsb-release?
[03:14] <muji> yea os didn't work
[03:14] <xwalk> You could also do that as well.
[03:14] <xwalk> lsb_release -d is what I use.
[03:15] <muji> ah okay, just that os-release didn't work for me
[03:16] <xwalk> It's a file that's in /etc/ I believe.
[03:17] <xwalk> Unless it's not present is older releases. I'm using 12.04.
[03:17] <muji> yea im using 11.04
[03:18] <muji> trying to find a way to upgrade without having to redownload iso into cd and reisntalling
[03:18] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue
[03:18] <muji> yea 11.04
[03:20] <xwalk> I think the update manager itself may handle distribution upgrades for you. It does in the Unity release anyhow.
[03:22] <muji> ah yes! it does lol
[04:13] <muji> hello fellas, can i get some help with my audio setup?
[04:14] <Joaquim> remove pulseaudio
[04:14] <Joaquim> apt-get purge pulseaudio*
[04:14] <muji> o.0?im trying to use my headphones and it isn't working out that well
[04:15] <Joaquim> i don't de audio input
[04:15] <Joaquim> mic input
[04:16] <Joaquim> after remove pulseaudio
[04:16] <Joaquim> don't see
[04:16] <muji> well i mean to listen through my mic
[04:16] <muji> headphones*
[04:16] <muji> and am currently upgrading to v 12.04
[04:16] <Joaquim> in kmix only have two chanel
[04:17] <Joaquim> or use alsamixer on konsole
[04:17] <Joaquim> and find headfone channel
[04:20] <muji> don't htink i have it
[04:20] <muji> or can't find it
[04:20] <muji> can't install/uninstall anything right now cuz of distro upgrade
[04:31] <muji> okay so i got it to go to my headphones
[04:31] <muji> but the sound is really low
[04:34] <OerHeks> muji, i use clementine, fiddle around with the Equaliser to get quality sound
[04:37] <muji> OerHeks, i'd love to use that but at the moment my distro is upgrading so i was trying to watch a movie while it was doing that
[04:38] <OerHeks> oke, try that later, flat equalizer is boring.
[06:05] <divyajyot> gm guys
[06:37] <bjrohan> I just installed mplayer. I can not find the icon in the launcher, nor when I  right click on the desktop and and select run and type mplayer. I can play a movie by right clicking in Dolphin, Open WIth and enter mplayer in that search bar for application
[06:37] <bjrohan> How do I put the icon in the launcher?
[06:41] <Obsidian1723> well, I was going to anwser, but he left.
[07:10] <Santiclause> Hey - I'm running 12.04, and for some reason my laptop's screen is still going dark when I go AFK for ~10 minutes, even though I've disabled screensaver and power saving?
[07:11] <Santiclause> (I also tried re-enabling screensaver but having the delay set to a stupid high number, 14400 minutes, but it's still doing it)
[07:24] <OerHeks> Santiclause, there is energy-saving, powermanagment and screensaver, check them all out
[07:26] <Santiclause> The only power management I see is in "Advanced settings", to the tune of "Configure advanced Power Management settings"
[07:27] <Santiclause> But the only options are when to label the battery level as low or critical, and then "Events":  Lock screen on resume, and Never prevent an action on lid close
[07:28] <OerHeks> type energy in KDE menu
[07:28] <Santiclause> (other than the energy saving settings)
[07:28] <Santiclause> I typed in power, but alright I'll try energy
[07:28] <Santiclause> Yeah, typing in energy gives me the same options
[07:29] <Santiclause> (like the same 3 choices. advanced settings, energy saving settings, and activity settings)
[07:30] <Santiclause> Advanced Settings is not so very advanced, and Energy Saving Settings already says that this shouldn't be happening. Not really even sure what activity settings does, but it's disabled.
[07:30] <OerHeks> oke, then i guess your bios has some settings
[07:30] <Santiclause> hum
[07:30] <Santiclause> but it doesn't do it on windows
[08:27] <NilsonGibbon> teste
[08:50] <ovidius2> hi all. will there be kde 4.9.3 for 12.04 via a ppa as well?
[08:54] <lordievader> ovidius2: Curently 4.9.2 is the latest version in the backports. Maybe in the future it will come to 12.04.
[08:58] <ovidius2> lordievader: 4.9.2 is what i am on right now ;-) for hardware reasons i have to stick to 12.04.  i was just curious whether this was an intentional thing to postphone 4.9.3 for 12.04 or just some kind of "4.9.3 is not that important" backporting isn't worth the effort
[10:37] <casa> oi?
[10:38] <yossarianuk> anyone here good at bash scripting?
[10:40] <lordievader> yossarianuk: What is your question?
[10:42] <yossarianuk> im trying to create a script to check for the version of an installed package - then 'do something' if lower than a specific value
[10:43] <yossarianuk> getting ' integer expression expected' errors..
[10:43] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Can you pastebin your current script? I'll take a look.
[10:45] <yossarianuk> thanks - http://pastebin.com/R4TPePbq    -  this one is for RPM btw ( its not the package manager i'm having issues with though...)
[10:48] <lordievader> yossarianuk: How does your psaver variable look? Is it just the version number or is there some other garbage around it. If not I think it is complaining that it has multiple dots in the version number.
[10:50] <yossarianuk> hi - and example psaver is = 9.5.4
[10:50] <yossarianuk> (so yes it has dot in...)
[10:52] <casa> anyone wanna talk?
[10:53] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Oke, I though so. Bash is right in concluding that such is not a number. What you need to do is split the version number at the dots and compare those, for example: 9.7.8 < 9.5.6 breaks down to 9<9, 7<5 and 8<6.
[10:53] <lordievader> casa: Join #kubuntu-offtopic for offtopic conversations, this is a support channel.
[10:57] <yossarianuk> lordievader: thanks - so i've I get the value, remove the .'s and export that as a value that should work?
[10:58] <lordievader> yossarianuk: You split both the version number and you go step for step, first comparing the first digit then the second and so on.
[10:58] <simplew> yofel_: PONG
[10:58] <yossarianuk> lordievader - thanks
[10:59] <yossarianuk> (i know this is slightly off topic - kind of)
[10:59] <simplew> where are the translation files of ubuntuone?
[10:59] <yossarianuk> p.s really liking Kubuntu ( installed on most work desktops now...)
[11:00] <lordievader> yossarianuk: No problem, and good luck :)
[11:00] <yossarianuk> cheers
[11:00] <yossarianuk> I don;t understand how anyone can use unity for more than a few mins if they have ever used KDE.....
[11:02] <simplew> yossarianuk: they are on drugs
[11:51] <laubosslink> hello, i've little question, i've bought the Razer Nostromo, and i would like to know if i cant make different bindkey from different keyboard ? if yes how ?
[11:51] <laubosslink> can*
[11:51] <simplew> yofel_: pring
[11:52] <hateball> laubosslink: different bindkey from different keyboard? I'm not sure I understand the question
[11:54] <laubosslink> hateball: yes
[11:55] <laubosslink> hateball: because on the keyboard, when i type "e" letter for example, it's "04" key on my nostromo which finally print "e" like my main keyboard, that's why i'm searching how could i interpret diffrently the key from the 2 keyboard
[11:58] <hateball> laubosslink: ah. I didnt know what that device was, you see.
[11:59] <hateball> laubosslink: So I thought you were just switching between two keyboards, but now I understand that this is not the case
[12:00] <laubosslink> hateball: yes, the nostromo is geek component :D, i would like make a lot of shortcut with, but if i make shortcut on key "04", when i will type "e" on main keyboard, it make same. Result, i cant write with my keyboard...
[12:00] <hateball> laubosslink: Yep I understand
[12:01] <laubosslink> hateball: it could be cool that linux compare device (with vendorID and prodID), how could i do that ?
[12:01] <hateball> laubosslink: That I do not know, but I'll see if I can find something on it. At least now the problem is detailed enough that someone else might know :)
[12:02] <laubosslink> hateball: yes :) Thanks !
[12:05] <hateball> laubosslink: google turns up this http://sourceforge.net/projects/jnostromo/ but as I have no hardware like this I can't really say if it'll help you
[12:06] <laubosslink> hateball: thanks ! i'm looking
[12:10] <angel> hi
[12:11] <angel> having problems with the brightness botton un kubuntu 12.1
[12:12] <hateball> !details | angel
[12:15] <angel> im running kubuntu 12.10 on a new mountain computer laptop. I cant use brightness buttons and neither i can change the brightness with software
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:17] <Ab3L> hello
[14:07] <hays> so does dist-upgrade need to be run more often than between q,r,s,etc updates?  it looks like i need to run it due to a new kernel for quantal
[14:10] <hays> i am perhaps old fashioned but i thought this tool was just used between major releases..
[14:12] <lordievader> hays: Apt-get dist-upgrade is a more agressive form of apt-get upgrade. It will not upgrade your distro version (12.04 -> 12.10).
[14:13] <hays> got it
[14:13] <hays> thx
[14:53] <angel> hi, anyone has a sollution to the wifi rtl 8723AE drivers problen in kubuntu 12.10? thanks
[15:09] <rohdef> hey, installed Kubuntu on an Samsung laptop, but I can't adjust the screen brightnees, no matter if I do it using keys or the battery widget it always set it to 100% later, what can I do?
[15:09] <rohdef> (it's Kubuntu 10.10)
[15:11] <lordievader> rohdef: 10.10 is no longer supported, why not install 12.04? That is an LTS release, got support for 5 years.
[15:14] <rohdef> ,
[15:14] <rohdef> lordievader, sorry 12.10 typo on my part
[15:15] <lordievader> rohdef: Ah oke, nvm. Have you installed the video-card driver for your laptop? Usually the screen-brightness is done through the driver.
[15:15] <hateball> rohdef: have you checked the ubuntu wiki? sometimes there are specific instructions for certain models
[15:16] <hateball> rohdef: what model is the laptop?
[15:16] <hateball> iirc backlight/brightness is an issue on pretty much most samsung laptops
[15:16] <hateball> I recall a netbook I had refused to let it be controlled so I set it to "always max" in BIOS....
[15:18] <heathjs> you guys
[15:18] <rohdef> hateball, seems it says NP300V3A
[15:18] <heathjs> i can't access a tty terminal
[15:18] <heathjs> halps!
[15:19] <rohdef> lordievader, I think it's an onboard intal and afaik they're standard in the Linux system
[15:19] <lordievader> rohdef: Follow hateball's advice it seems he has quite a bit more knowledge on Samsung laptops than I do ;)
[15:20] <hateball> rohdef: a google suggest adding "acpi_backlight=vendor" to the kernel bootline
[15:20] <rohdef> hateball, the problem here is that we actually want some battery lifetime so always max seems like a bad idea (and it what it actually does), I'll check the bios though for a similar setting
[15:20] <rohdef> hateball, will try
[15:20] <hateball> rohdef: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72834/cant-decrease-increase-brightness-on-samsung-np300v3a-more-than-1-step
[15:20] <rohdef> damn faster at that search than me :) thanks hateball
[15:20] <hateball> I'm a master googler, you're welcome
[15:22] <heathjs> something to do with my graphics card i'm assuming
[15:22] <heathjs> it's intel with the default stuff...
[15:24] <rohdef> hateball, I don't have a GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT should I just add it, or is it actually GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX og GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT that I should use?
[15:24] <hateball> rohdef: If you're familiar with editing your kernel bootline with grub on runtime I'd suggest you do that first before making a permanent change
[15:25] <hateball> rohdef: that is, hold shift when booting and go into the grub menu and edit the line there and see if it helps
[15:25] <rohdef> hateball, I was in Grub 1.x
[15:26] <rohdef> hateball, add to the line containing Linux I suppose?
[15:26] <hateball> rohdef: do you have a line that looks like so: "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash""
[15:26] <Smurphy> I always remove the quiet and splash, and usually add: nomodeset
[15:26] <Smurphy> Makes many problems go away ...
[15:27] <hateball> yes, but that's beside the point now :)
[15:27] <rohdef> hateball, yes
[15:27] <hateball> rohdef: add acpi_backlight=vendor after splash on that row
[15:28] <hateball> rohdef: save the file and run "sudo update-grub" and reboot and it should use the new options
[15:29] <rohdef> will do, tested it from the grub boot, it indeed changed the behaviour, but now the light can't be turned up :p but better that than always max
[15:30] <hateball> hmmm
[15:30] <xixor> hmmmmmmmm
[15:33] <Steve132> I'm having a strange problem all of a sudden where I cannot connect to wireless networks.  It worked perfectly before, but now it hangs on 'setting network address'
[15:33] <Steve132> how can I debug this?
[15:35] <Walex> Steve132: usually system logs, like '/var/log/...'
[15:36] <Steve132> there are a lot of them.  Which one?
[15:40] <Smurphy> What tools/apps can I use to check if my webcam is working ??? I am sure I have some installed - can't just remember the names ...
[15:41] <Smurphy> Got it -> kamerka :}
[15:47] <hateball> Smurphy: there is also VLC
[15:48] <Smurphy> vlc ? interesting ... Checking ...
[15:48] <Smurphy> Yep - even working.
[15:49] <Smurphy> Hmmm. Any chance to change the resolution ? The Logitech Pro 9000 is suppose to make 960x720 pixels.
[15:52] <Peace-> Smurphy: i did my own stuff
[15:52] <Peace-> you can set what you want in the resoultion
[15:53] <Peace-> Smurphy: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/showebkam?content=154631
[15:55] <rohdef> hateball, oh just did an lshw it seems I was mistaken, it's not an Intel onboard
[16:00] <Smurphy> Peace-: Checking it ..
[16:02] <Smurphy> Peace-: In the downloadable version - you still have a ~ (backup) file.
[16:02] <Smurphy> I tend to have an alias on my shell to clean that kind of stuff: alias clean='rm -fv .*~ *~ *.BAK *.tmp'
[16:04] <Peace-> Smurphy: you need ffplay
[16:04] <Peace-> basically it's just a ffplay stuff so if you use shell quite well you can do an alias
[16:04] <Smurphy> Peace-: yup... Just saw it :)
[16:05]  * Smurphy is a Master odf shellscripts too :}
[16:05] <Peace-> Smurphy: i did that just to have a menu entry :D
[16:06] <Smurphy> :} *rofl* So - now I'm torturing my Mac mini -> Load 5.58... (converting some movies - DVD - to m4v -> handbrake at the same time)
[16:07] <Smurphy> However - it is weird that under Linux - the USB is not as fluid. Sometimes it really slows down and stops the video stream.
[16:13] <Walex> Smurphy: it could be very many things, from high latency in the disk subsystem to scheduling. Usually it is high latency in storage
[16:55] <rohdef> what do I do if sudo nvidia-xconfig only breaks the display resolution and nvidia-settings keeps telling me that I should rund nvidia-xconfig?
[16:56] <Smurphy> rohdef: you have a recursion :)
[16:56] <rohdef> Smurphy, I don't think so?
[16:57] <Smurphy> yes - every error sends you to the other one ... :}
[16:57] <rohdef> ok? So what do you suggest? /var/log/nvidia-whatever-log
[16:57] <rohdef> or?
[17:55] <WineQQ> Hey all !  im trying to setup a debian fileserver within a VM .... soo the setup was succesfull and the ssh installation too . But trying to connect to my server via putty doesnt work ... any clue ?
[17:56] <DarthFrog> WineQQ:  Try this command from within the VM "sudo iptables -F" and see if it works then.
[17:57] <WineQQ> ok darkfrog , wheres the difference to ifconfig ?
[17:57] <DarthFrog> WineQQ: One is firewalling code, the other is network configuring code.
[17:58] <WineQQ> ok hang on 1 sec trying it
[17:58] <mysystem_> hello which is the default kernel version for 12.10
[17:58] <DarthFrog> If that iptables command works, you're being firewalled.
[17:58] <DarthFrog> mysystem_: 3.5
[18:00] <WineQQ> couldnt find command
[18:01] <mysystem_> isnt the next version number interesting (3.5.0-18-generic the 18)?
[18:01] <xixor> How is the VM's networking setup?  NAT?  Or Bridged?
[18:01] <WineQQ> nat
[18:02] <xixor> so you have to tell the host which ports to pass to the guest
[18:03] <WineQQ> should i select bridged instead ?
[18:03] <xixor> depends on what you are trying to do.  I like to use Bridged.  Bridged can have difficulties with some hardware configurations.... I hear some Wifi devices don't like operating bridged for instance
[18:04] <xixor> I like bridged because the Guest gets it's own IP from my router, and I configure the NAT mapping on the router for the guest the same as I would for any other physical computer on my network
[18:07] <WineQQ> so well , im just trying to get used  to the whole debian server thing for i am new to that u know :)... So now i selected bridge which gave me a new IP after restart.. i started up putty and typed  username@ipadress and then i pressed connect
[18:07] <WineQQ> still doesnt work ;(
[18:13] <WineQQ> so well , im just trying to get used  to the whole debian server thing for i am new to that u know :)... So now i selected bridge which gave me a new IP after restart.. i started up putty and typed  username@ipadress and then i pressed connect
[18:13] <WineQQ> still doesnt work ;(
[18:15] <DarthFrog> WineQQ:  Is networking working in the VM?  Can you ping a site?
[18:16] <DarthFrog> Are both your host and guest systems on the same network?
[18:17] <WineQQ> ping works and host and guest are on the same network
[18:18] <xixor> so from a different computer, you can ping the guest machine?
[18:19] <xixor> WineQQ: my website, www.xixor.net, is hosted on a debian VM
[18:20] <DarthFrog> WineQQ:  the same logical network that is.  eg. 192.168.1.0/24
[18:26] <WineQQ> trying ifconfig gives me 192.168.2.101
[18:30] <DarthFrog> And what is your host IP?
[18:31] <WineQQ> hang on a sec
[18:31] <DarthFrog> And what is your netmask?
[18:35] <WineQQ> soo there u go : i got the following  names and  ip s  - netmasks :
[18:35] <WineQQ> lo  127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0
[18:35] <WineQQ> vmnet1   192.168.152.1  255.255.255.0
[18:35] <WineQQ> vmnet8   172.16.58.1      same
[18:35] <WineQQ> Wlan0  192.168.2.100   same
[18:35] <FloodBotK1> WineQQ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <DarthFrog> WineQQ: You should probably ask for help in #vmware
[18:37] <DarthFrog> vmnet1 is on the 192.168.152.0 network, not the 192.168.2.0 network.
[18:38] <DarthFrog> and vmnet8 is on the 172.16.158.0 network.  So nothing can talk to anything else without a proper routing table.
[18:39] <WineQQ> i just dont get it,  it worked so damn fine on a real machine some days ago ... hmm ok but i ll ask vmware instead. But i thank both of u very much !
[18:39] <DarthFrog> It sounds like a networking issue.
[18:40] <WineQQ> ok got that maybe its a wrong vm setup somehow
[18:41] <WineQQ> trying stuff later on ... thx DarthFrog :)
[18:41] <DarthFrog> you definitely want the virtual network card to be bridged, not NAT.
[18:43] <Ab3L> hi, i've a problem with thunderbird and the plasma "window's menu bar". when i try to manage an account (edit -> settings), a window opens. at the bottom right there is a "roll up" menu ("Account Actions"). well, if you click on it, you'll be unable to choose the action to do (if i want to manage accounts, i'll have to shut down the plasma "window's menu bar"). Does someone get the same issue?
[20:10] <desalvo> salve
[20:10] <desalvo> /join/ubuntu-it
[20:11] <desalvo> per la comunità italiana?
[20:11] <desalvo> per la comunità italiana?
[20:11] <SIR_Taco_> desalvo: /join #ubuntu-it
[20:11] <Unit193> No leading space, /join #ubuntu-it
[20:12] <desalvo> /join/#ubuntu-it
[20:15] <desalvo> dove si parla italiano?
[20:15] <BluesKaj> !it
[20:17] <Ab3L> desalvo: scrivi /join #ubuntu-it
[20:18] <Ab3L> i've a problem with thunderbird and the plasma "window's menu bar". when i try to manage an account (edit -> settings), a window opens. at the bottom right there is a "roll up" menu ("Account Actions"). well, if you click on it, you'll be unable to choose what to do (if i want to manage accounts, i'll have to shut down the plasma "window's menu bar"). Does someone get the same issue?
[20:20] <desalvo> sdasa
[20:20] <bazhang> desalvo, english only here
[20:20] <bazhang> whoops
[20:50] <toafan> I've got kubuntu 12.10 and am ...disapointed by the lack of hibernate option.  I've googled it (q=kubuntu+12.10+hibernate) but I'm not convinced by what I've found.  Has anyone had success with hibernate under 12.10?
[21:14] <crow_> I always get informed that "knetattach" crashed
[21:14] <crow_> is it normal for it to always crash or can I fix it somehow?
[21:15] <aleth> How do I reset the setting for GTK apps which gives the tabbar background the right shading?
[21:23] <backjlack> Is there any way to remove the title bar from firefox under KDE on Kubuntu? Removing the title bar with a window specific hack removes the window buttons as well.
[21:24] <aleth> backjlack: You can try the oxygen KDE add-on for FF
[21:26] <backjlack> aleth: Can you please tell me which one you're talking about? I've installed oxygen kde just now and I'm still getting the title bar.
[21:26] <aleth> backjlack: You'll still need to use the window manager to remove the title bar, but the add-on can put back the window controls
[21:28] <aleth> I think the add-on author has instructions somewhere
[21:32] <backjlack> You can get them if you right click on the window
[21:32] <backjlack> *on the window's chrome
[21:32] <backjlack> However, there are still no window controls.
[21:38] <backjlack> They have to be added by hand via customize.
[22:15] <elimary> oi
[23:46] <bbeck> Is anyone else having trouble with Krunner since upgrading to KDE 4.9.3?  I can no longer simply press enter to select whatever is selected in the list.  I now need to use the mouse to click on the item that I want.
[23:58] <picharras> :)