[15:11] <Johnnybam> test
[15:11] <TheLordOfTime> test failed.
[15:12] <TheLordOfTime> lol i kid.
[15:12] <TheLordOfTime> but there's other testing channels
[15:12] <Johnnybam> lol hi
[15:12] <TheLordOfTime> !test
[15:12] <Johnnybam> im sorry but i can chat in here but not in #ubuntu
[15:12] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:12]  * TheLordOfTime points at #test
[15:13] <Johnnybam> can anyone help me with startup configurations
[15:13] <Johnnybam> im haaving an issue with wicd
[15:14] <TheLordOfTime> you're probably not allowed to talk in #ubuntu for good reason
[15:14] <TheLordOfTime> just sayin g:P
[15:15] <Johnnybam> i dont get it
 im sorry but i can chat in here but not in #ubuntu  <-- <TheLordOfTime> you're probably not allowed to talk in #ubuntu for good reason
[15:16] <TheLordOfTime> response to your initial statement :P
[15:20] <Johnnybam> i've never been to #ubuntu so what reason would that be?
[15:37] <smartboyhw> Johnnybam, maybe you have not register
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> Johnnybam, um...
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> backtrack's not supported.
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> in any of the ubuntu or derivative channels
[21:38] <darkxst> jbicha, was thinking it might be good to add tweak tool to system settings
[21:46] <darkxst> jbicha, also is g-s-d going to be synced to 3.6 in R soon?
[22:14] <Sonianovat> hola buenas
[23:13] <jbicha> darkxst: actually, I just submitted patches yesterday to keep Ubuntu One & Privacy out of System Settings
[23:14] <jbicha> *Ubuntu One & Software Sources (Privacy is only installed if you have ubuntu-desktop)
[23:15] <darkxst> oh right, so what do you think about adding tweak tool in
[23:16] <darkxst> or atleast update the keywords, so it shows in activities when searching for settings etc.
[23:19] <darkxst> also I was going to look into enabling g-s-d packagekit backend at run-time (if update-manager is not available)
[23:19] <darkxst> currently its disabled at build-time
[23:20] <jbicha> this is annoying: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682529
[23:21] <jbicha> if you look in the gnome-tweak-tool.desktop, it has for the comment field "Tweak advanced GNOME 3 settings"
[23:22] <darkxst> yeh I see, thats why it used to work circa precise or so
[23:22] <jbicha> anyway, I'm happy to take patches for keywords; and GNOME seems pretty interested in accepting them now for 3.8
[23:23] <jbicha> we can't backport keywords patches though as they are string changes
[23:23] <darkxst> oh, they need to be translated?
[23:26] <darkxst> jbicha, ok I will submit an upstream patch to add the keywords for 3.8
[23:26] <darkxst> perhaps an ubuntu patch to add it into system setting
[23:27] <jbicha> yes, so if you use _Keywords in a .desktop.in it will be translatable http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-packagekit/commit/?id=72dd21
[23:29] <jbicha> darkxst: I'm trying to clean up System Settings from all the Ubuntu patches, not add more :)
[23:29] <jbicha> darkxst: you're not on raring yet, are you?
[23:31] <jbicha> Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 won't have any panels that open separate windows (like Ubuntu One or Software Sources do in 12.10)
[23:33] <darkxst> jbicha, just running dist-upgrade to R on my main box now
[23:34] <jbicha> ok, we're testing gnome-control-center 3.6 in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/
[23:35] <jbicha> I believe the 2 blockers to uploading it are 1. figuring out how to get a separate Appearance panel for Unity & 2. rewriting the ibus indicator
[23:37] <darkxst> oh right the upstream appearance panel is bad though
[23:38] <darkxst> for example I cant set my 2560x1024 wallpaper to span both monitors
[23:39] <jbicha> well once the Ubuntu Appearance panel lands, you can run XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity gnome-control-center to use it instead
[23:41] <darkxst> yeh of course, however that is one panel I would consider sticking with the ubuntu one rather than upstreams
[23:45] <darkxst> there are a few bits and pieces in the ubuntu patches that would be nice to see upstreamed, but I have never had much luck with the gnome designers ;(
[23:48] <jbicha> yeah, it's a challenge trying to change the mind of designers...it helps if you ever get the chance to meet them in person
[23:48] <darkxst> jbicha, thats unlikely, I am on the other side of the world from most of them