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| smb | infinity, Argh, I should add those at the same time as I add the index number. I do not seem to be able to remember long enough to finish a paragraph in between. | 08:21 |
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| smb | ... and morning, btw | 08:21 |
| smb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/crash/+bug/1064475 | 08:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1064475 in crash (Ubuntu) "crash version is outdated. Needs to import Debian version of the package" [Medium,In progress] | 08:23 |
| dupondje | disabling my VGA card with switcheroo, and then unloading the module causes a cpu hang :s | 09:09 |
| dupondje | bleh :) | 09:09 |
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| apw | (flavour powerpc-smp &/ value CONFIG_NVRAM y) | \ | 09:49 |
| apw | value CONFIG_NVRAM m | \ | 09:49 |
| apw | !exists CONFIG_NVRAM | \ | 09:49 |
| ubot2 | apw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 09:49 |
| apw | value CONFIG_NVRAM y | 09:49 |
| apw | ubot2, given the the dumb things you say and do, trust me i don't | 09:50 |
| ubot2 | apw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 09:50 |
| * apw sighs | 09:50 | |
| cking | perhaps we need a predicate to english translator :-) | 09:54 |
| apw | <-- predicate to UK engish translator | 09:55 |
| * cking sees a job for life | 09:55 | |
| cking | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_logic | 10:01 |
| cking | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_ternary | 10:02 |
| smb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic | 10:03 |
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| cking | apw, what about this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811227 | 10:57 |
| ubot2 | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 811227 in libvirt "RFE: Ability to specify custom BIOS for QEMU/KVM using <loader> XML (for WHQL testing)" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] | 10:58 |
| smb | http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html | 11:09 |
| smb | http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-September/msg00001.html | 11:12 |
| * henrix -> lunch | 12:52 | |
| xnox | Do we ship ndiswrapper in generic ubuntu kernels? | 14:23 |
| xnox | the package says that it is provided, yet lsmod does not show ndiswrapper, nor modprobe -r ndiswrapper work on the LiveCD without network access. | 14:24 |
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| rtg | xnox, indeed we do not provide ndiswrapper | 14:26 |
| xnox | rtg: can you figure out _when_ you stopped doing this? | 14:27 |
| rtg | xnox, its been awhile. lemme check | 14:27 |
| xnox | rtg: cause it means I have an argument on ubuntu-devel to drop ndiswrapper tools from the CD \0/ | 14:27 |
| rtg | xnox, we disabled ndiswrapper in Precise (3.2.0-1.1) | 14:28 |
| xnox | rtg: interesting. And why / how come? | 14:30 |
| rtg | xnox, ogasawara dropped it completely as of 3.2.0-17.26, but there are no notes in the changelog as to why. | 14:31 |
| rtg | likely because its now a DKMS package ? | 14:31 |
| ogasawara | rtg: yep, dkms if I recall correctly | 14:31 |
| ogasawara | rtg: and I thought we'd dropped it a few releases ago actually | 14:32 |
| xnox | ogasawara: rtg: ok. since it's dropped, can you drop the provides from the linux-image package? | 14:32 |
| xnox | do you need a bug for that? | 14:32 |
| rtg | xnox, that would be good for an SRU | 14:32 |
| xnox | ack. | 14:32 |
| ogasawara | xnox: yes please. it'll make sure it stays on our radar and is useful for SRU paperwork | 14:32 |
| xnox | ogasawara: rtg: bug 1076395 | 14:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1076395 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "ndiswrapper module is not provided any more" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076395 | 14:35 |
| ogasawara | xnox: thanks | 14:35 |
| xnox | after checking ndiswrapper there is dogpile of bugs along the lines "ndiswrapper module is missing" | 14:36 |
| xnox | *sigh* | 14:37 |
| rtg | ogasawara, I can crank those out if you wish. I'm kind of idle waiting on arm test builds. | 14:37 |
| ogasawara | rtg: sweet, its all yours then | 14:37 |
| ogasawara | rtg: I've been hammering on these haswell patches. I've got the v3.6 and v3.7 ones applied, but of course the i915 driver is then oopsing on load. so am digging further. | 14:38 |
| rtg | ogasawara, have fun with that :) | 14:39 |
| BenC | rtg: will the master package still build linux-libc-dev on powerpc? I ask because when I enable it on .ppc it errors out saying that it's not supposed to build outside of the master build | 14:46 |
| rtg | BenC, I would think it ought to be provided by your source package. | 14:46 |
| rtg | apw, whaddya think ? ^^ | 14:46 |
| BenC | echo "non-master branch building linux-libc-dev, aborting" | 14:50 |
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| BenC | What is going to happen on powerpc when it tries to build master? Maybe it will actually produce the package? | 14:51 |
| rtg | BenC, I don't think it will. I was just checking, but it looks like _all_ support for powerpc has been removed except for the config enforcer. | 14:52 |
| BenC | I'm going to checkout master-next and see what it does when I run binary-arch... | 14:52 |
| apw | yeah that is in there to stop derivatives producing them ... i note that we did used to produce them linux-libc-dev for arm | 14:53 |
| rtg | BenC, if there is no rules file in debian.master/rules.d/ for power, then it ain't gonna do nothing. | 14:53 |
| apw | even when we did not have arm in our package flavour wise. perhaps it makes sense for us to do the same here | 14:53 |
| apw | as getting versioning wrong on that is fatal across the board | 14:53 |
| apw | rtg, so perhaps we should have a flavour free powerpc in ours to make that | 14:54 |
| BenC | I would suspect that is the ideal solution | 14:54 |
| BenC | I can create the commit for that and send a pull request when I can test that it works as expected | 14:55 |
| apw | something similar to what we have just done for aarm64 should be sufficient | 14:55 |
| apw | in theory at least | 14:55 |
| rtg | BenC, works for me | 14:56 |
| apw | BenC, thanks, did you see my update to your enforcer patch | 14:56 |
| BenC | What is the plan of action for ABI handling in this package? Should I just hold off anything I do that causes an ABI bump until one is incremented in master? | 14:56 |
| BenC | apw: I did, thanks | 14:56 |
| apw | i appologise in advance for the opacity of the syntax | 14:57 |
| apw | infinity, did i not see you dropping the dkms headers linkage during UDS ? | 14:57 |
| apw | ogasawara, rtg, i have spun through the main blueprints and kicked them into shape, copied out the work-items and moved them approved and the like | 14:58 |
| rtg | BenC, ABI handling for a separate source package should be independent of master, right ? | 14:58 |
| ogasawara | apw: thanks | 14:58 |
| apw | rtg, that reminds me, does ppc produce a common headers or share ours ? | 14:59 |
| BenC | So if I bump the ABI in powerpc, it won't cause any random conflicts with master, but how do I detect that master ABI bumped and then also ABI bump my side? | 14:59 |
| rtg | BenC, after you rebase and build ? if thereis an ABI change then the ABI checker should catch it. | 14:59 |
| apw | rtg, as if it shares ours it needs to be insync abi wise, if not, then the common headers needs to be renamed or have a different avi series | 14:59 |
| apw | abi | 14:59 |
| rtg | apw, maybe thats why ppc should produce its own header packages | 15:00 |
| apw | Package: linux-headers-3.7.0-0 | 15:00 |
| apw | not linux-libc-dev, that should be ours, but the common headers | 15:01 |
| apw | that needs to be a differnt name | 15:01 |
| rtg | linux-headers-ppc ? | 15:01 |
| apw | rtg i think it should ve SRCPKG-headers | 15:02 |
| apw | or whatever the sub variable is | 15:02 |
| rtg | apw, what are you doing for rt ? | 15:02 |
| rtg | or lowlatency rather | 15:02 |
| apw | rtg, right now they are sharing our headers, which we need to fix anyhow | 15:02 |
| apw | else they will prevent our kernel getting out of -proposed | 15:02 |
| apw | BenC_, hi | 15:02 |
| rtg | apw, ok, then the same for ppc | 15:02 |
| apw | BenC_, ok i think there is a bug here. we need to change the link from linux-headers-PKGVER-ABINUM-FLAVOUR from Depends: linux-headers-PKGVER-ABINUM -> SRCPKGNAME-headers-PKGVER-ABINUM | 15:03 |
| apw | BenC_, and change the name of it in stub to the same | 15:04 |
| apw | so that it produces non-overlapping common headers naming | 15:04 |
| BenC_ | Ok | 15:04 |
| BenC_ | makes sense | 15:04 |
| rtg | and fix your meta accordingly | 15:04 |
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| apw | else you and we will argue over common headers and bad poop will happen | 15:04 |
| BenC | right | 15:04 |
| apw | rtg, i don't think that file is mentioned in meta anywhere | 15:05 |
| BenC | bad poop is never good | 15:05 |
| apw | it is not the names of the per-flavour ones, just the shared common one | 15:05 |
| apw | rtg, you going to reneable the linux-libc-dev in our packaging yes ? | 15:05 |
| BenC | It is only mentioned in the linux-headers-*-FLAVOUR depends | 15:05 |
| apw | BenC, right, so i think that is the only one we can clash with | 15:05 |
| apw | as flavour names are necessarily unique otherwise the installer gets all miffed | 15:06 |
| apw | BenC, perhaps once you have done that you could build a set of packages and put them somewhere so we can review thats the only issues -- before we upload them and break the archive :) | 15:06 |
| apw | we made a bit of a pigs ear of lucid this way | 15:07 |
| BenC | No problem | 15:08 |
| BenC | apw, rtg: Same pull request as the last change will get the enablement of linux-libc-dev headers for master branch | 15:12 |
| BenC | That's all it builds | 15:12 |
| apw | BenC, thanks ... | 15:12 |
| rtg | BenC, got it | 15:13 |
| * apw lets rtg handle it | 15:13 | |
| rtg | apw, I'm gonna upload to the c-k-t de-virt PPA first to make sure we've got the powerpc bits correct. | 15:36 |
| rtg | I also put the whammy no +master-next to put Ubuntu-3.7.0-0.4 at HEAD | 15:37 |
| rtg | s/no/on/ | 15:37 |
| StFS | does anybody know of a way to make apt prefer a locally installed package rather than a package with the same version number from the repository? | 15:39 |
| StFS | woops... probably the wrong channel... although in my defence the packages _are_ the kernel packages ;) | 15:40 |
| apw | StFS, heh you would likely get more help elsewhere indeed. i think the term for that is 'apt pinning' though quite what incantion you would need is beyond my apt foo | 15:45 |
| StFS | ok, I'm sorry if this next question was already answered (I got logged out before I noticed one at least), but I submitted a patch to a bug a little while back which got applied and I was told it would show up in the Ubuntu kernel. However, the last kernel from the repo (3.5.0-18) does not seem to have this fix. Is there a way for me to see when my patch will end up in the official ubuntu kernel? The bug in question is this one: https://bugs.launchpad | 15:53 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:54 | |
| apw | StFS, seems the bug number got truncated here | 15:54 |
| apw | rtg makes sense | 15:54 |
| StFS | here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1060372 | 15:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1060372 in linux (Ubuntu) "No audio from headphone jack on Ultrabase Series 3 with ThinkPad T430" [Medium,In progress] | 15:54 |
| apw | StFS, it does seem to be applied to quantal's master-next | 15:57 |
| apw | StFS, so it will be in the next kernel which hits proposed, which would be wrapped up sometime next week in the normal flow of things | 15:57 |
| apw | StFS, and it is pending for the first upload to raring as well. so nearly there | 15:59 |
| StFS | apw: awesome :-) thanks. | 16:02 |
| StFS | apw: just out of curiosity (mostly), can you tell me how to figure this out myself? you know, teach a man to fish and all that :-) | 16:03 |
| apw | i've updated the bug to indicate the same. you should watch the bug for quantal as you will be asked to confirm the -proposed kernel as built works for you | 16:03 |
| apw | i am looking at the kernel git repositories and looking for the patch by bug number | 16:03 |
| apw | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git under ubuntu/ubuntu-<series> | 16:03 |
| StFS | ok sorry, I'm an absolute n00b here.. watch the bug for quantal? so there's another one than the one on launchpad? | 16:04 |
| bjf | StFS, when the quantal kernel reaches -proposed, a comment will be added to the bug asking that you test that kernel to verify it fixes the issue | 16:10 |
| apw | StFS, heh, no that bug is the right one -- note it ha two tasks now, one for quantal and one for raring | 16:10 |
| apw | as bjf says there will be a request in your bug there | 16:11 |
| bjf | StFS, if we do not get a verification, we will revert the commit | 16:11 |
| apw | jsalisbury, hmmm when you did the patch for bug #1060372 you didn't use the BugLink: format, so it will not close the bugs out correctly ... you'll have to monitor and do that manually ... | 16:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1060372 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "No audio from headphone jack on Ultrabase Series 3 with ThinkPad T430" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060372 | 16:14 |
| apw | jsalisbury, for mainline, you can use it even there | 16:14 |
| jsalisbury | apw, so any patches send upstream should also contain the BugLink line? | 16:16 |
| rtg | jsalisbury, that is ideal | 16:16 |
| apw | jsalisbury, there is no harm indeed. then when we get the fixed via mianline or stable we find out | 16:16 |
| StFS | bjf, apw: ok awesome... I'll wait for that comment and verify as soon as it appears | 16:17 |
| jsalisbury | rtg, apw, got it. I'll be sure to include it from now on | 16:17 |
| apw | jsalisbury, for upstreaming i tend to include it in the s-o-b area so it tends to get left alone | 16:17 |
| jsalisbury | apw, ack. | 16:18 |
| rtg | apw, https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa/+build/3967077 | 16:23 |
| apw | looks good rtg | 16:33 |
| rtg | apw, I'm about uploading BenC's branch as well. | 16:33 |
| rtg | to the PPA I mean | 16:33 |
| rtg | I'm thinking* | 16:33 |
| rtg | can't freaking type today | 16:33 |
| apw | rtg, as we might kill the PPA if its wrong, i'd wait till we see benc's builds | 16:34 |
| apw | i'd hate to have to respec that PPA | 16:34 |
| rtg | apw, can't we just delete the packages ? | 16:34 |
| apw | if the version are wrong and higher than we want, its just as irrevokable as the main archive, i am told | 16:34 |
| rtg | well, that doesn't provide much isolation | 16:35 |
| apw | now i can't say as to having tested that of course | 16:36 |
| apw | but that is what i am told. that the version cannot be lower bit still exists | 16:36 |
| apw | you can zap a ppa and remake it, and for any other PPA that is easy, but that one, not so much | 16:36 |
| rtg | apw, if versioning carnage were possible then anyone could wreak havoc on the archive | 16:37 |
| apw | rtg, i am not saying it breaks the archive, i am saying you could break the PPA itself | 16:38 |
| rtg | apw, hmm | 16:38 |
| apw | rtg, they are very archive-esk in design | 16:50 |
| apw | if davis wasn't broken i'd suggest building there | 16:51 |
| apw | but with 4 flavours you are going to be in a world of pain either ways | 16:51 |
| rtg | apw, I thought infinity provisioned a new poerpc porter, or was that just a buildd ? | 16:52 |
| rtg | powerpc* | 16:52 |
| apw | rtg, hmmm, a good point indeed | 16:52 |
| infinity | rtg: No, davis is the only porter. It's dead? | 17:25 |
| apw | infinity, it was yesterday indeed | 17:25 |
| apw | it looks to be back today | 17:25 |
| apw | infinity, is it still the same sluggard it has always been? | 17:25 |
| infinity | It's not magically turned into something better than an Xserve. | 17:26 |
| infinity | apw: Also, yes, I dropped the dkms->headers dep. Is this having a sad somehow? | 17:26 |
| apw | infinity, no there is a work item in your name for it, i'll close it | 17:26 |
| apw | infinity, done | 17:27 |
| apw | infinity, i also added that Suggests: link for raring for our first upload | 17:28 |
| infinity | apw: image suggesting headers? I was going to test that that actually does what I want it to do (keeps the headers installed on autoremove), but it certainly doesn't hurt, and feels like a sane suggests anyway. | 17:29 |
| apw | infinity, indeed, well it helps to have some old kernels with it, so i'll let it be | 17:30 |
| infinity | apw: I'd suggest that the suggests should be a recommends (which would definitely have the desired effect), but minimalist folks would probably scream about having to install kernels with --no-install-recommends then. :P | 17:33 |
| infinity | rtg, apw: Is someone on top of fixing the raring kernel on ARM? | 17:34 |
| apw | infinity, fixing ? | 17:34 |
| rtg | infinity, test building on non-virt PPA right now | 17:34 |
| infinity | rtg: Yay. | 17:34 |
| infinity | And if it weren't the for LP bug preventing me from seeing /builders, I'd know that. | 17:35 |
| rtg | infinity, its still grinding away in https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa/+packages | 17:36 |
| apw | ahh its in, woopeedoo | 17:36 |
| infinity | Does this upload include the discussed -generic image for ARM, or will that happen later? | 17:38 |
| rtg | infinity, somewhat later (if at all). amitk was not very optimistic. | 17:38 |
| infinity | (Granted, it would be a generic with one platform, since we dropped highbank, but whatever, I don't want to fight that political battle today, I just want the bits in place some time) | 17:38 |
| infinity | rtg: Alright, fair enough. Just want to know what I need to mangle in d-i. So, for now, I just need to drop highbank from d-i, and the rest is business as usual? | 17:39 |
| infinity | Oh, and I need to decouple powerpc from master. Ugh. | 17:39 |
| rtg | infinity, thats sound about right | 17:39 |
| infinity | Yay for creating more work in the name of reducing workload. :P | 17:39 |
| apw | rtg, ignore -signed for raring for the moment, as although i think it is ready cjwatson wants to interlock before upload in case it breaks the images | 17:44 |
| rtg | apw, works for me. its pushed to the repo | 17:44 |
| apw | rtg, yep all pushed just not closed out once your bits are built and in -proposed then i'll upload it to the ppa for final testing | 17:45 |
| apw | rtg, if that build works in the PPA i assume you'll just copy it out into -proposed ? | 18:03 |
| janimo | pgraner, USB_SERIAL=y in current nexus kernel. Is that ok for your testing lab? | 18:06 |
| rtg | apw, works for me | 18:07 |
| pgraner | janimo, ack | 18:14 |
| * rtg -> lunch | 18:35 | |
| * apw wanders off out for the evening ... shock horrot | 18:39 | |
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| * ogasawara lunch | 20:44 | |
| * rtg -> EOD | 21:22 | |
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