[07:43] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <pitti> hey dholbach
[07:48] <dholbach> pitti, hi Alter
[08:11] <Noskcaj> why hasn't the tracker or testdrive been updated?
[10:22] <xnox> pitti: plars: balloons: psivaa: I just filed bug 1076305
[10:23] <pitti> xnox: ah, thanks for letting us know
[10:23] <pitti> xnox: at least apport-kde is happy again now
[10:23] <xnox> this is the bug that breaks ubiquity. python3.3 is not defining INT_MAX which ubiquity uses.
[10:24] <xnox> now this breaks all live cds.
[10:24] <xnox> I can hard-code a python-dbus timeout value in ubiquity to unbreak it (2 line patch)
[10:24] <xnox> or we can wait on python3.3 to be fixed and then respin.
[10:25] <dholbach> pitti, do you know anyone who has access to jenkins.qa.u.c apache logs? it'd be good to figure out why http://paste.ubuntu.com/1337493/ doesn't work (it works with urllib in python2 and curl, but not in wget either)
[10:25] <xnox> I'm not sure if non-working CDs are blocking setting up jenkins raring jobs.
[10:25] <popey> dholbach, mmrazik may do
[10:25] <pitti> dholbach: presumably retoaded
[10:25] <mmrazik> ack
[10:26] <mmrazik> I have no access there
[10:26] <dholbach> retoaded, hey - it'd be great if you could let me know when you're online :)
[10:30] <pitti> dholbach: I expect in something like 5 hours
[10:30] <dholbach> sure
[10:34] <jcollado> xnox: Not sure if that's the same problem as in bug1075631, but we're certainly having problems to setup jenkins jobs for raring images. Anything that can be used to workaround that would be really helpful.
[10:35] <jcollado> dholbach: He'll probably be online around 14-15 your time.
[10:35] <dholbach> great
[10:37] <xnox> jcollado: yes, same problem.
[10:38] <jcollado> xnox: Marking the other one as a duplicate then. Thanks.
[10:38] <xnox> jcollado: already did.
[10:39] <xnox> jcollado: and the bug is in python3.3. so please keep my bug open.
[10:39] <xnox> jcollado: it has triange details of what is missing in python3.3.
[10:40] <jcollado> xnox: Yes, I read your comment about no mention about constants being removed in the release notes.
[10:42] <xnox> ack.
[10:43] <xnox> sorry for getting "the other one" as wrong way around =)
[10:43] <xnox> my missunderstanding.
[11:07] <xnox> jcollado: fix is building in raring. respin is possible in ~2 hours or less.
[11:08] <jcollado> xnox: Great! Thanks for the update.
[11:14] <retoaded> dholbach, while I'm not online quite yet (still need to get the kids out the door for school) I can answer a part of your question to pitti: I do not have access to anything on jenkins.qa.u.c except the jenkins front-end. For the apache logs you will need to contact someone in IS. ChrisS and Spads are vanguard atm.
[11:15] <dholbach> thanks retoaded
[11:15] <retoaded> np
[11:16] <pitti> retoaded: thanks
[11:16] <retoaded> :-)
[15:33] <dholbach> for everyone who's interested: the problem I could not get data from https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/search/?q=raring-adt with python3-urllib is that it gives me a 404, which then delivers the data through javascript :)
[16:19] <xnox> dholbach you should do a  "Website Scrapping 101" ubuntu-classroom session =))))))))
[16:19] <dholbach> yeah, just use curl and be done with it
[16:19] <dholbach> or python2
[16:19] <dholbach> ok, I'm done with the trolling now - I'll try to be nice from now on :)=
[16:47] <xnox> jcollado: psivaa: plars: pitti: 5c0f86ccace6d84ea6fe6072ba61a47d raring-desktop-amd64.iso 20121108.2 works fine here. Good to go for jenkins? (default install + reboot & login work)
[17:26] <balloons> phillw, you about?
[17:27] <phillw> balloons: yup :)
[17:27] <balloons> phillw, I'm afraid to ask, but I remember somehting about a testcase conversion you need
[17:27] <phillw> indeed! the lubuntu specific ones... now all I have to do is go find them again :P
[17:29] <phillw> balloons: they're at http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/ under LXDE
[17:30] <balloons> k
[17:30] <balloons> you get to help though :-p
[17:30] <balloons> is there a testsuite for them?
[17:30] <phillw> If you can 'throw' them onto the sand box we can make a start on them.
[17:31] <phillw> not yet, as I don't know how things will pan out with PPC testing suite etc (e.g. no Chromium for them)...
[17:33] <phillw> Initially they could be 'test once' or even 'optional' for the architectures that they are applicable to. Or, are applications going to be tested as an 'application-tester' suite separate from 'installer-tester' ?
[17:33] <balloons> k, going to look
[17:33] <phillw> e.g. if amd-64 pcmanfm is marked to work, it should then work on kubuntu/xubuntu.... etc.
[17:34] <phillw> just as Firefox should work perfectly on lubuntu-amd64 if it works on any ubuntu-amd64 flavour?
[17:44] <balloons> phillw, hmm
[17:44] <balloons> I'm trying to remember how we converted from the wiki...
[17:44] <balloons> I feel like maybe it was manual?
[17:44] <balloons> in which case... hehe
[17:52] <balloons> phillw, yes we manually converted from the wiki
[17:52]  * balloons rattles head
[17:53] <balloons> the good news is it's pretty straightforward.. just need to run through the testcases, verify/update/tweak as needed, then get them added
[18:06] <phillw> okies, I'll make a start after dinner :)
[18:07] <psivaa> xnox: thanks for the fix. i think this should be good for the time being
[18:09] <xnox> psivaa: well I have a whole bunch of ubiquity & installer changes, but I am waiting on a green light from jenkins before landing those.
[18:09] <xnox> aka "break it again"
[18:14] <psivaa> xnox: ok :), our default tests worked fine with 20121108.2, i'll have a local copies of them just in case.
[18:25] <xnox> psivaa: thanks ;-)
[20:54] <Noskcaj> does anyone know why testdrive doesn't have the iso's yet?
[20:58] <phillw> Noskcaj: as a wild guess, they're still up to their eyes in getting things started with the changes for raring.
[20:58] <Noskcaj> phillw: ok then, what about the tracker its missing the testcases
[20:59] <phillw> Noskcaj: a good reason for that :)
[20:59] <phillw> new tracker due :)
[21:00] <phillw> Noskcaj: (20:45:57) balloons: fyi -- a new version is landing today of the tracker actually
[21:00] <Noskcaj> oh, i the ait can people do the small amount of work need to port my ppc netboot testcase to the pther architextures
[21:00] <phillw> Noskcaj: all test cases are safe :)
[21:00] <Noskcaj> *wait
[21:01] <balloons> Noskcaj, yes things are migrating today
[21:01] <balloons> testdrive should be up and running at this point though I think
[21:01] <balloons> the iso's should be in the right places
[21:01] <phillw> Noskcaj: the test cases are quite safe in the sandbox area, feel free to continue
[21:02] <Noskcaj> phillw: i know and i have finished it, we need wxl to check the ppc and some others to port to x86 etc.
[21:04] <phillw> balloons: as soon as new tracker settles in, can you copy over the ppc netboot onto the 'live' area so the PPC testers from lubuntu can give it a spin. Although I've not seen a ppc-netboot for raring yet. the guys can run it against 12.10
[21:05] <phillw> Noskcaj: can you check if the PPC's are in net boot yet for raring?
[21:05] <Noskcaj> ok, also it may not work on all ppc's doesn't on mine
[21:06] <phillw> Noskcaj: the netboot iso? There was a 32 bit one and 64 bit one, which the iso tracker was not aware of.
[21:06] <Noskcaj> the 32-bit
[21:06] <balloons> phillw, isn't ppc netboot live now?
[21:06] <phillw> It's on my list of things to mention to balloons once the new tracker arrives.
[21:06] <balloons> it's all up now
[21:07] <balloons> i'm going to have a look to see
[21:07] <balloons> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/26287/testcases/1452/results
[21:07] <balloons> ahh you mean it's still showing the arm netboot info
[21:07] <balloons> hehe
[21:07] <Noskcaj> its in http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/raring/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/
[21:08] <balloons> we don't have better netboot testcases atm
[21:08] <balloons> unless they are written and not in the system yet
[21:08] <Noskcaj> i made better ones balloons
[21:08] <balloons> Noskcaj, awesome mate
[21:08] <balloons> well then, indeed.. let's get them in
[21:08] <balloons> where are they
[21:08] <balloons> ?
[21:08] <Noskcaj> http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases/1340/edit
[21:09] <Noskcaj> it only needs minor tweaks to work on x86
[21:11] <phillw> balloons: there are two netboots for PPC, 32 bit (which I'm told most use) and a 64 bit version.
[21:13] <Noskcaj> i have links to them both in the testcase phill
[21:13] <Noskcaj> and shouldn't they be separate tests?
[21:14] <phillw> Noskcaj: yes, but for testing of netboot iso's they are not seperate tests, just that the 32 bit AND 64 bit testing. At 12.10, only one of them was listed.
[21:14] <phillw> on the iso tracker.
[21:14] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:14] <Noskcaj> i have to go now
[21:15] <balloons> phillw, ok sounds like you have a handle on what needs to happen here yes?
[21:16] <phillw> balloons: yeah, it's on my 'nag' list from L-QA :)
[21:23] <balloons> Noskcaj-school, your case is live here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/26287/testcases/1465/results
[21:24] <balloons> ohh.. I should tell you.. use can use RELEASE instead of the release name
[21:24] <balloons> so that way it will autoreplace with the assigned release
[21:25] <balloons> so first line becomes: Download the latest image from http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/RELEASE/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/mini.iso (32-bit) or http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/RELEASE/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc64/netboot/mini.iso (64-bit)
[21:26] <balloons> weird..
[21:31] <balloons> Noskcaj-school, I lied to you :-) however, we can just pull the info about downloading the image out anyways.. that can be handled by the download link
[21:31] <balloons> so sadly, you can't use RELEASE as a keyword
[21:36] <balloons> ok Noskcaj-school phillw I think it's good: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/26287/testcases/1465/results
[21:42] <phillw> balloons: I think it is very good, but please do give any constructive criticism of it.. It will help in further writing of test cases :)
[21:42] <balloons> I fixed spelling and moved the download links out and put a pointer to the download page
[21:43] <balloons> in general saying download and burn is probably best avoided.. it's fairly implied
[21:44] <phillw> balloons: Can you email to him what you've done (please cc me).
[21:48] <phillw> balloons: do have the link to the sandbox iso-tracker so I can add my new test case to it?
[21:48] <balloons> http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/admin/
[22:02] <phillw> Ahh, no I cannot add a new test to that area. You are needed to do that!
[22:02] <phillw> balloons: ^^
[22:44] <phillw> stgraber: do you have 30 seconds to spare?
[22:51] <brendand_> balloons, so you're still deciding over the focus for the first cadence?