dogmatic69 | anyone got a stats page for download numbers? | 00:57 |
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ali1234 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_downloaded_Android_applications | 01:04 |
ali1234 | http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/downloads/ | 01:06 |
ali1234 | i could go on... | 01:07 |
ali1234 | there's no stats on ubuntu downloads if that is what you meant | 01:08 |
ali1234 | the best stats anyone found is wikimedia browser stats | 01:09 |
ali1234 | but those are terrible and require a large amount of analysis to get anything even remotely meaningful | 01:09 |
dogmatic69 | ali1234: ye, ubuntu downloads. | 01:13 |
dogmatic69 | browser stats is pointless as it misses servers | 01:13 |
ali1234 | downloads are pointless too because it missed torrents | 01:13 |
dogmatic69 | ye | 01:14 |
ali1234 | and besides i downloaded 4 ubuntu isos last week | 01:14 |
dogmatic69 | they could just include some privacy busting call home stuff | 01:14 |
ali1234 | yes but they only just put that in in the latest release | 01:14 |
ali1234 | and the stats are unlikely to be public anyway | 01:14 |
ali1234 | there is popcon but it isn't on by default | 01:15 |
ali1234 | http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=coreutils | 01:15 |
ali1234 | i'm guessing most debian users have coreutils... | 01:15 |
shauno | unique addresses hitting security.ubuntu.com's repos would be an interesting one. or the closest I can think of to interesting, at least | 01:16 |
directhex | popcon is opt-in though | 01:19 |
ali1234 | yeah, i bet a larger fraction of debian users opt in than ubuntu users | 01:22 |
directhex | bedtime. | 01:22 |
ali1234 | dogmatic69: basically you won't ever get more than a general trend, and even that is entirely open to debate due to the scarcity of data | 01:25 |
dogmatic69 | ye | 01:25 |
ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Ubuntu Advocacy Development Kit - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/11/08/ubuntu-advocacy-development-kit/ | 01:30 |
ali1234 | oh great ^ | 01:36 |
ali1234 | advocacy doesn't work | 01:51 |
ali1234 | and even if it did, community support already can't handle the existing user base | 01:52 |
ali1234 | every hour you spend designing posters and planning release parties is an hour you could have spent learning how to fix bugs and then fixing bugs | 01:54 |
AlanBell | morning all | 07:23 |
popey | morning | 07:52 |
AlanBell | o/ | 07:53 |
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diplo | Morning all | 08:03 |
theopensourcerer | morning | 08:04 |
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daubers | Morning | 08:32 |
BigRedS | Good Morning! | 09:18 |
BigRedS | Anyone got a recommendation for an S3 browser? So I could click around it as if it were a real filesystem? | 09:21 |
diplo | daubers: nice work on the printer :) | 09:24 |
JamesTait | Good morning all! :) | 09:27 |
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daubers | diplo: \o/ just miles of calibration to do now | 09:28 |
danfish | BigRedS: isn't there an s3 fuse implementation? | 09:42 |
danfish | http://code.google.com/p/s3fs/ | 09:42 |
danfish | failing that dragondisk | 09:43 |
popey | can someone on quantal try something for me? right click the dash icon in the top left, you should get a menu, now with that open, press Super+S to show all workspaces, then come out of that again with Super+S. Do you still see the context menu for the dash? | 09:44 |
popey | also, simpler test. over mouse over dash so you get a "Dash Home" tooltip, press super+s, then super+S again, now move the mouse away from the launcher, note that every time you press super+s and come out, it always has the tooltip | 09:46 |
directhex | super-s doesn't work for me when the menu is open | 09:46 |
directhex | tooltip seems normal enough to me? | 09:47 |
popey | if you hold down super as you come out of super+s, the tooltip "Dash Home" always appears, it shouldnt | 09:47 |
popey | it should only appear when you mouse over the dash | 09:47 |
popey | but it seems to remember if you happened to Super+S as you had the mouse over the dash button | 09:47 |
BigRedS | danfish: ta! | 09:48 |
popey | might be a regression in this unity I'm testing | 09:48 |
diplo | Works ok here popey | 09:50 |
popey | hmm | 09:51 |
directhex | works ok here too | 09:52 |
popey | hmmm | 09:52 |
directhex | annoyed enough by json to blog about it, i think | 09:54 |
Laney | what aspect of it? | 09:55 |
AlanBell | directhex: that stuff is in Fedora too, and explicitly on their list of bad licenses | 09:58 |
AlanBell | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main?rd=Licensing#Bad_Licenses | 09:59 |
directhex | Laney, the license | 09:59 |
Daviey | Laney: Must be used for good and not evil. Googlecode removed jsmin for the same reason, as it's non-free | 10:03 |
AlanBell | and it is in PHP | 10:04 |
Laney | yeah I know about it, I was just wondering what form the annoyance was taking | 10:04 |
Daviey | And also dangerous, as good and evil are not legally defined. It's arguably as dangerous as a submarine patient | 10:04 |
directhex | it's childish more tha anything | 10:13 |
directhex | it's unbelievable to me that anyone past puberty would think it was a good idea | 10:13 |
Myrtti | there's no fax software for ubuntu anymore? | 10:47 |
Myrtti | or am I just being blind | 10:47 |
BigRedS | fax? 1997 called... | 10:50 |
Myrtti | yeah I know | 10:51 |
Myrtti | what can I say, lawyers pfftt | 10:51 |
brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:58 |
BigRedS | G'morning | 11:31 |
brobostigon | morning BigRedS | 11:31 |
Laney | TVL nastygram | 11:36 |
Laney | "Whatever you're watching, however you're watching it, your home needs a TV license." | 11:36 |
mgdm | heh, that's easy to dissect | 11:42 |
Laney | indeed | 11:44 |
jacobw | they should wind up the pretense and introduce a culture tax already | 12:22 |
andylockran | howdy al | 12:23 |
andylockran | l | 12:23 |
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popey | davmor2, poke | 13:33 |
popey | open software centre, in the banner at the top there is a left and right button in the bottom right of the banner, the arrows look off-centre to me, it's annoying me now | 13:34 |
popey | they're both to the left a bit | 13:34 |
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popey | AlanBell, your email sig has no crlf between company name and url | 13:49 |
AlanBell | should it have? | 13:53 |
AlanBell | "I work at http://libertus.co.uk" | 13:53 |
Daviey | SPAM :) | 13:54 |
AlanBell | minimalist spam | 13:55 |
AlanBell | oh, I see what you mean popey | 13:56 |
AlanBell | different from address, should have a clrf or something there | 13:56 |
popey | -- | 13:58 |
popey | Libertus Solutionshttp://libertus.co.uk | 13:58 |
AlanBell | yeah, fixored now | 13:58 |
popey | groovy | 13:58 |
popey | anyone fancy confirming bug 1076380 | 14:02 |
lubotu3` | Launchpad bug 1076380 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Poorly aligned arrows in banner buttons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076380 | 14:02 |
diplo | Done | 14:05 |
diplo | Wanted to make sure it wasn't just you first | 14:05 |
diplo | :) | 14:05 |
popey | :) | 14:05 |
popey | it may well be intentional :) | 14:05 |
diplo | Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote 43 seconds ago: | 14:06 |
diplo | Is that done because it affects more than one ? | 14:06 |
diplo | bug #1071001 | 14:06 |
AlanBell | that ever present Ubuntu question "is that a bug or was it designed that way?" | 14:06 |
lubotu3` | Launchpad bug 1071001 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Sound Card not detected NM10/ICH7 Intel HDA Internal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071001 | 14:06 |
diplo | How do I get any help with that bug guys ? | 14:06 |
AlanBell | diplo: yes | 14:06 |
diplo | thought so | 14:07 |
diplo | ta | 14:07 |
CaMason | anyone here get the Steam linux beta invite? | 17:05 |
bashrc | no | 17:06 |
bashrc | I'm not much of a gamer TBH | 17:06 |
bashrc | although I might occasionally play on FlightGear | 17:06 |
CaMason | I've been following it for ages and was hoping to get an invite. Didn't :/ | 17:06 |
bashrc | More commercial gaming will certainly bring new users to linux | 17:07 |
shauno | I'm curious if it will bring new users, or just mean existing users have to reboot into windows less often | 17:16 |
bashrc | my guess would be that most people who spend a lot of time in games will be using consoles anyway | 17:18 |
gord | thats a pretty bad guess, steam on windows is huge | 17:18 |
popey | CaMason, ya | 17:22 |
CaMason | popey, had any fun with it yet? | 17:23 |
popey | ya :) | 17:23 |
CaMason | any showstopper bugs? | 17:23 |
popey | it's surprisingly stable | 17:23 |
popey | it's got a few issues | 17:24 |
popey | I'm more interested in Unity3D tbh | 17:24 |
popey | https://twitter.com/popey/status/266585522942640128 | 17:24 |
CaMason | why can't I ruddy zoom in on images in Twitter any more, grr | 17:25 |
CaMason | looking very nice | 17:25 |
popey | yeah, be good if devs can just take their existing code and pretty much just press a button to make a linux version | 17:26 |
CaMason | considering how many games launched in the beta, it can't be too far from that | 17:26 |
popey | all I did was download and run unity3d on windows 7, open the demo, spit out a 64-bit binary for linux and copy to my laptop to run it | 17:26 |
CaMason | wow nice | 17:26 |
CaMason | I probably play TF2 the most out of all my games, so will be good to see how it performs vs windows on the same system | 17:27 |
MartijnVdS | popey: It's confusing though | 17:28 |
MartijnVdS | popey: I had to read that twice to understand which Unity3D you meant :) | 17:28 |
CaMason | :) | 17:28 |
popey | :) | 17:28 |
popey | good job I didnt do it in vmware which also has something called Unity | 17:28 |
CaMason | yo dawg | 17:29 |
popey | indeed | 17:29 |
CaMason | anyone else got a new google search layout appearing? | 17:42 |
MartijnVdS | I have a new youtube design | 17:56 |
MartijnVdS | more G+ish | 17:57 |
CaMason | it's switched back now. All of the advanced search tools were horizontal rather than vertical | 18:12 |
CaMason | has a 'sorted by date' option | 18:13 |
MartijnVdS | shiny | 18:17 |
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popey | directhex, first game I downloaded from the new humble bundle.. turns out to be a unity3d game.. fancy that | 18:47 |
MartijnVdS | how strange! | 18:47 |
popey | splice | 18:47 |
directhex | oh, i've played Splice on Windows | 18:50 |
directhex | so if steam keys appear for HIB Android 4, then hopefully they'll ship it there :) | 18:51 |
popey | i have already redeemed my steam keys | 18:59 |
popey | https://twitter.com/popey/status/266610413343477760 | 18:59 |
CaMason | nice popey :D | 19:09 |
xnox | AlanBell: is iPhone / Android accessible? | 19:14 |
AlanBell | iphone is, certainly | 19:15 |
AlanBell | android is, somewhat | 19:15 |
AlanBell | I have not met a blind person who lacked an iPhone :) | 19:16 |
xnox | AlanBell: hmm... so how does a blind person use it? | 19:16 |
AlanBell | http://behindthecurtain.us/2010/06/12/my-first-week-with-the-iphone/ | 19:17 |
AlanBell | http://www.marcozehe.de/ is a mozilla engineer working on various things, he uses an iPhone ad is blind | 19:20 |
xnox | with screen and camera off, I bet the battery lasts for ever. | 19:22 |
directhex | AlanBell, fascinating article | 19:23 |
shauno | it sounds counter-intuitive, but the screen is still on in those modes | 19:27 |
mgdm | I just tried it | 19:28 |
mgdm | it's interesting | 19:28 |
popey | 24 hours until snippy snippington! | 19:31 |
AlanBell | are you going to be live tweeting it? | 19:32 |
popey | probably not | 19:33 |
spiritech | does anyone know if pysdm is still working? | 19:34 |
spiritech | if i try to apt-get it, it says unable to locate package. | 19:35 |
AlanBell | !info pysdm | 19:36 |
lubotu3` | Package pysdm does not exist in quantal | 19:36 |
spiritech | how can i mount a disc at boot time? | 19:38 |
AlanBell | !fstab | 19:38 |
lubotu3` | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 19:38 |
AlanBell | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pysdm | 19:38 |
AlanBell | looks like precise was the end of the line | 19:38 |
spiritech | the device shows up in nautilus under devices, and mounts when i select it from the list, how can i make sure to mount it in the same place as nautilus expects it to be? | 19:40 |
AlanBell | bug 1005279 | 19:41 |
lubotu3` | Launchpad bug 1005279 in pysdm (Ubuntu) "Please remove Pysdm from Quantal: dead upstream, buggy" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005279 | 19:41 |
spiritech | there is a another program called mountmanger, i installed it. only it looks seriously dated. | 19:42 |
spiritech | i will have a look at fstab, its probably pretty easy to use. | 19:44 |
AlanBell | it is just a text file, you tell it where you want stuff mounted, and there they go | 19:44 |
AlanBell | but avoid using it for stuff that gets hot plugged | 19:44 |
AlanBell | xnox: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html | 19:45 |
AlanBell | they haven't updated that page to put iphone 5 in the text yet | 19:46 |
AlanBell | popey: I saw this and thought of you http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20251773 | 20:07 |
popey | hah | 20:07 |
spiritech | i am trying to remove the close button from the title bar.. i have set the metacity general option to minimize,maximize: this worked before, is there a reason why it might not be working now? | 20:17 |
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popey | blimey, fedora 18 pushed back to january | 21:49 |
popey | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule | 21:49 |
* Azelphur is still happy about being in the steam linux beta, 2 days later | 21:59 | |
Azelphur | shame there's no way to report bugs xD | 21:59 |
popey | thats what the forums are for | 22:06 |
Azelphur | true | 22:07 |
Azelphur | I don't think I ended up with access to the private forum, if there is one | 22:07 |
Azelphur | there's a public linux beta forum | 22:07 |
cliftonts | Evening all | 22:37 |
creativetux | heya | 22:38 |
cliftonts | I was wondering if anyone could help me with a simple problem. I have a list of web addresses, all photos which I need to download. I'm sure there must be a way to feed this list into terminal and have it just work it's way down the list. I'm not great with that sort of thing though | 22:40 |
ball | cliftonts: wget? | 22:40 |
cliftonts | ball: there's a bit more to it than that, I know that much | 22:40 |
creativetux | maybe DownloadThemAll! plugin for Firefox? | 22:41 |
cliftonts | I used to have a script to manipulate all the files in a directory but I'm damned if I can find it. | 22:41 |
cliftonts | it used some command like for f in * | 22:41 |
* ball shrugs | 22:42 | |
creativetux | put all urls in a file, then wget -i download.list | 22:42 |
cliftonts | aah, that's handy. thanks. | 22:42 |
cliftonts | How do I format the file? Just one url per line in gedit? | 22:43 |
creativetux | yep | 22:43 |
cliftonts | great, thanks | 22:44 |
cliftonts | yup, that's done it alright. Saved me hours of work | 22:45 |
creativetux | awesome :) | 22:46 |
ball | Thanks creativetux, I wasn't familiar with the syntax. | 22:48 |
cliftonts | Unfortunately it means I have no excuse to avoid doing my work now! | 22:49 |
creativetux | Oops, well forget what i said and it will get lost with the original script :) | 22:50 |
cliftonts | lol | 22:50 |
cliftonts | right I'm off to get back to it. If I carry on like this I might actually get it done! | 22:51 |
cliftonts | cheers, bye | 22:51 |
andylockran | hey guys | 22:59 |
andylockran | really really weird behaviour | 22:59 |
andylockran | lightdm/ubuntu default | 23:00 |
creativetux | wow, that is weird :) | 23:00 |
andylockran | using a wyrestrom hdmi transporter | 23:01 |
andylockran | when the ubuntu machine is on the login screen, it scrambles the signal down the coaxial able | 23:02 |
andylockran | on the TV in a different room | 23:02 |
andylockran | really weird bit of radio inteference | 23:02 |
andylockran | when I'm logged into mythbuntu, it works fine | 23:02 |
andylockran | will write it up some other time | 23:03 |
creativetux | last one of those I used was dual cat6 and that worked fine | 23:03 |
andylockran | really strange | 23:05 |
andylockran | if there's no hdmi going through then there's no problem | 23:05 |
andylockran | edge case scenario | 23:05 |
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dogmatic69 | chrome likes my ram http://i.imgur.com/QEU09.png | 23:15 |
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Arpad2 | hi | 23:17 |
creativetux | hi | 23:18 |
Arpad2 | Is it possibla to buy a Windows free notebook in the UK? | 23:19 |
creativetux | Dell used to ship with a linux option | 23:21 |
Arpad2 | so, not any more? | 23:22 |
AlanBell | Arpad2: check ebuyer for zoostorm laptops | 23:22 |
Arpad2 | AlanBell: thx | 23:22 |
xnox | Arpad2: system76 ships to uk, there are a few on ebuyer, http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ also has options for no OS (80 to 100 GBP off) | 23:23 |
Arpad2 | why are retailers reluctant to offer os free laptops | 23:23 |
Arpad2 | ? | 23:23 |
xnox | Arpad2: there are plenty. | 23:23 |
shauno | because they're a very narrow niche | 23:23 |
creativetux | because they afraid of tech calls from people who thought of cheap bargain and then realise they got nothing lol | 23:23 |
xnox | the rest are resellers not retailers =) | 23:24 |
Arpad2 | in Hungary lot of small webshop offer this feature withbthe neweat mosels | 23:24 |
AlanBell | http://www.novatech.co.uk also | 23:25 |
Arpad2 | and could you advice me about the config? | 23:25 |
Arpad2 | I would like 17.3" screen | 23:25 |
Arpad2 | this letter was the best I've found so far | 23:26 |
AlanBell | get an SSD rather than a spinning drive | 23:26 |
Arpad2 | is it more durable? | 23:27 |
AlanBell | or get the smallest spinning drive and swap it yourself for an ssd | 23:27 |
AlanBell | it is fast and quiet | 23:27 |
creativetux | yeah +1 an ssd amazing different on speed and battery life I've found | 23:29 |
Arpad2 | which ssd capacity you recomend? | 23:32 |
AlanBell | entirely up to you | 23:32 |
AlanBell | probably don't get something massively huge if you don't need it | 23:33 |
pr0ph3t | hi all | 23:33 |
AlanBell | that gets expensive, and by the time you do need it, they will be half the price | 23:33 |
pr0ph3t | has anyone tried the steam beta on yet? | 23:33 |
* hamitron doesn't like SSD | 23:34 | |
pr0ph3t | not to play games of course but just to test how it works and all | 23:34 |
hamitron | small, and not enough time to go make coffee when comp is doing something | 23:35 |
hamitron | ;) | 23:35 |
pr0ph3t | I'm thinking of getting a small SSD actually, just to test it on my ubuntu box, check out the differences and work out whether a combination of SSD and HD is viable etc | 23:37 |
hamitron | these 60GB ones are certainly tempting, with their new lower prices | 23:38 |
AlanBell | yeah, I got one of those for £30 and shoved it in a USB enclosure | 23:39 |
Azelphur | don't suppose anyone knows if bank accounts have any form of API so you can watch transactions live? | 23:39 |
AlanBell | Azelphur: not usually, but some let you download in csv, xml or quicken format | 23:40 |
hamitron | Azelphur, maybe use email confirmations? | 23:40 |
AlanBell | and other assorted formats | 23:40 |
Azelphur | hamitron: they arrive hours and hours later | 23:40 |
pr0ph3t | well maybe some of you prefer not to expose themselves in public as gamers so I'll just say it (as it was published on Webupd8): you can run Steam on Linux even if you were not chosen for the beta testing officially, you can download the binary and run it, and that is exactly what I have done | 23:40 |
Azelphur | AlanBell: ah yea mine does, but that would involve polling with low interval | 23:40 |
hamitron | :/ | 23:40 |
AlanBell | Azelphur: got money coming in that fast then? | 23:40 |
Azelphur | AlanBell: I do a lot of bank transfers | 23:40 |
Azelphur | also just to plug this in case anyone is interested in fun things, Bitcoin friday is starting in a few minutes, http://bitcoinfriday.com/ | 23:41 |
Azelphur | I'll exchange £ to BTC if anyone wants anything :) | 23:42 |
pr0ph3t | AlanBell, I was thinking of doing the opposite, put my HD in a usb enclosure and install the SSD internally, although I realise that technically it is the same thing | 23:43 |
hamitron | I've considered SSD in USB caddy, but doesn't USB slow it down a fair amount? | 23:44 |
pr0ph3t | but wouldn't the USB connection defeat the | 23:44 |
pr0ph3t | hamitron, exactly my point | 23:44 |
hamitron | even USB 3 is not as good as esata imo | 23:45 |
pr0ph3t | I guess in this case it is not down to opinion, but physics and maths | 23:47 |
hamitron | well, SSD on USB 3.0 will be faster than HDD on USB 3.0 | 23:48 |
hamitron | probably good for data, if you drop it too | 23:48 |
pr0ph3t | usb 3.0 480Mbit/s <-> sata 6Gbit/s | 23:49 |
hamitron | that is usb 2.0 | 23:49 |
pr0ph3t | right usb is 5Gbit/s | 23:51 |
hamitron | I'd say latency is the biggest downside to usb, over esata | 23:51 |
pr0ph3t | I only have usb 2.0 on my laptop though | 23:51 |
hamitron | I've got usb 3.0 with a normal hdd | 23:52 |
hamitron | and I gotta say, not as great as I'd hoped | 23:52 |
hamitron | ;) | 23:52 |
AlanBell | pr0ph3t: I have an SSD internally (240GB) and I got the 60GB as an external thing | 23:52 |
AlanBell | well actually I got it because it was cheap, then I figured out what to do with it | 23:53 |
hamitron | :D | 23:53 |
hamitron | couldn't resist that bargan? ;) | 23:53 |
AlanBell | I can boot from it pretty quick, you don't notice that it is slow really | 23:53 |
pr0ph3t | I guess if you get a significant improvement in performance then 30 quid isn't much | 23:54 |
hamitron | boot times I bet are good | 23:54 |
AlanBell | yeah, I was going to put it in one of the kids machines, but the one with the laptop has IDE interface | 23:54 |
pr0ph3t | AlanBell, is it connected to a USB 3.0 port then? | 23:54 |
hamitron | just a shame I lag behind the times a little, and can't convince myself to spend money on a SSD yet | 23:54 |
hamitron | ;) | 23:55 |
AlanBell | pr0ph3t: nope, just usb2 | 23:55 |
AlanBell | that will be a bottleneck, however it is still fast | 23:55 |
AlanBell | and silent and shockproof and light etc | 23:55 |
hamitron | I think you don't need such extras AlanBell, and can parcel it up for my xmas gift | 23:57 |
pr0ph3t | I'm thinking of installing it internally and speed up the system and then keep my data in the HD which now is internal connecting it through USB 2.0 | 23:57 |
hamitron | ;) | 23:57 |
AlanBell | hehe | 23:57 |
AlanBell | I also have a little server which actually boots from an SD card plugged into a USB port | 23:57 |
hamitron | I dunno how people can live with USB 2.0 for large amounts of data | 23:57 |
AlanBell | that has a 3TB spinning rust drive in it, but it is spun down most of the time | 23:58 |
hamitron | huge transfers I've found USB 3.0 better for, but esata is better I'd say | 23:58 |
hamitron | 3TB! | 23:58 |
AlanBell | when I back stuff up to it, the drive starts spinning, but most of the time that machine has no moving parts | 23:58 |
AlanBell | I unplugged all the fans | 23:59 |
pr0ph3t | hamitron, one thing is spending 30 quid on a SSD, another thing is getting a new laptop with USB 3.0 ports ;-) | 23:59 |
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