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snap-lderekv: That's no good00:21
rick_hhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/214379/where-did-proc-acpi-battery-bat0-xxx-go-in-12-10 if anyone cares to give me an upvote or two?00:45
rick_hhttps://twitter.com/kennethreitz/status/26635319132986982401:40
rick_hBlazeix: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/view/head:/lib/lp/testing/factory.py02:53
rick_hand much simpler https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/tests/factory.py02:53
Blazeixrick_h: cool thanks04:59
rick_hstrange wtf email of the day: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/Qr6LSq6Pif8TuGcS1Ckt/12:54
brousch$1000/hr d00d12:57
rick_hI don't even know wtf librtp is (had to google) and definitely no idea using it on iOS12:58
brouschBut you would learn for $1000/hr12:58
rick_hhah12:58
brouschHold on, I'll recommend you for rtmp on linkedin13:00
snap-lheh13:27
shakes808http://mlkshk.com/r/3DA215:30
shakes808Random act for the day :D15:30
shakes808Top of the morn to ye all15:30
snap-lmorning15:30
snap-lSeems like my day. :)15:30
rick_his it friday yet?15:47
rick_hthe boy slept until 6 today yay!15:47
rick_hrecovering from DST step 215:47
brouschDST hasn't been so much of a problem as full day Kindergarten. The boy keeps falling asleep during dinner.15:51
rick_hhah15:54
rick_hyea, when he first moved up a room in day care where they ran around and had more active play time he was soooo tired when he got home15:54
rick_hthis is part cool part crazy : http://goo.gl/wncIe15:56
rick_hcrazy to think a business never having a down month in 9yrs15:57
brouschNeed moar Mcrib!15:58
shakes808snap-l: did you see my randomness?16:02
greg-gingenious: http://www.bikehacks.com/bikehacks/2012/11/flip-flop-pedals.html16:28
rick_hugh, need a much more solid base imo than a flip flop16:29
shakes808:( blocked,16:36
shakes808I am guessing it is a youtube vid16:36
rick_hvimeo16:36
shakes808yea16:37
shakes808:(16:37
shakes808that is all blocked16:37
shakes808and streaming music sites are blocked as well :(16:37
shakes808play is not though :D16:37
greg-gshakes808: basically, a guy made a bike pedal where the platform is a flip-flop (sandal)16:38
greg-git's also kind of punny because there are "flip flop pedals" that are clip in on one side, and normal flats on the other16:38
greg-gdude looks like he got stoned one day, heard someone say "man, I love flip flop pedals" (meaning the traditional sense) and he replied "whoa.... dude..... flip flop, pedals."16:39
snap-lshakes808: Yeah, I did.16:54
snap-lgreg-g: I already think flip flops (the footwear) are the devil's handiwork16:55
rick_hthis file of JS is going to make me break down and cry...16:55
rick_hare we sure it's not friday yet?16:55
snap-lrick_h: One more day over the speedbump of Thursday16:55
snap-lInteresting re: the McD drop. But it would stand to reason when folks are trying to cut costs and stop eating like crap, McDs loses out16:57
rick_hyea, but after 9 years, 108 straight months and then boom16:57
rick_hkind of crazy to think16:57
rick_hI think it's less costs and more eating like crap tbh, I mean you can eat darn cheap16:57
snap-lrick_h: Perhaps it's the sign that the economy is improving16:58
snap-lpeople are OK with paying a little extra to not eat at McDs16:58
rick_hyea, maybe16:58
greg-gfor rick_h http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcby0jlsQQI&feature=youtu.be&utm_source=buffer&buffer_share=b5cfb16:59
snap-lor, judging from the number of times I've almost gotten hit driving past it, they're OK with the dog-meat substitute at Taco Bell16:59
rick_hwoot! clicky!16:59
brouschmmmmm, Taco Bell Volcano Menu17:01
snap-lgreat, we can work really hard to replicate the computing experience of this great machine: http://ur1.ca/aujlk17:01
snap-l(url shortened to add to the suspense)17:02
greg-gjcastro_: wait, chris crissaful lost like a ton a weight? https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/101586564530051299524/albums/5807044115282882465/580707431734485590617:20
jcastro_he lost a ton17:25
jcastro_so did mike basinger17:25
jcastro_they're both hard to recognize now, lol17:25
greg-gthats great17:26
greg-ghappy for them17:26
greg-gchris, I bet, is effing solid muscle. He seemed strong as hell before.17:27
snap-lAny opinions on the Cyberpower UPSes?17:41
* rick_h is an APC man17:41
snap-lMy APC battery is flat again, and it's going to cost half of what a new UPS would cost to replace it17:41
snap-lI think I'm driving too much on the current UPS17:41
snap-land worse, our ground doesn't exist.17:42
rick_hah yea, when power goes out I kill all but router/modem/router17:42
snap-lWell, you're on a laptop too. ;)17:43
rick_hyesterday got about 3.5hrs of time running network gear when power went out with my APC 120017:43
rick_hisn't everyone :P17:43
greg-glaptop + NAS, way to live17:43
rick_h+117:43
rick_hreminds me, need to turn the NAS back on snice I killed it yesterday17:44
greg-gand really, my setup is: laptop + smaller_laptop_acting_as_server :) So, my server has a built in UPS (just not the harddrives, they're external)17:49
snap-lI'm obviously asking the wrong crowd. :)17:52
* snap-l looks around to see what other dinosaurs have tower desktop machines17:53
rick_hwell not sure on that. Just don't own cyberpower stuff as they seem to be enough lower priced on things I don't trust it with stuff I don't want to risk failing17:53
rick_hthe good ole fashioned 'if it's too good to be true...'17:54
rick_hbut sucks you're having issues with APC so go for it I guess. The amazon reviews are 4+ stars17:54
snap-lrick_h: Yeah, that's kept me from hitting "one click"17:54
snap-lrick_h: What I worry about is if the APC folks have cheapened their consumer stuff to the point where it's just the brand name carrying it along17:55
brouschDesktop computer? Do you wear onions on your belt too?17:55
rick_hsnap-l: definitely, looks like my model isn't around any more17:55
snap-lbrousch: Only when I don't have a clove of garlic to keep the west michigan folks at bay.17:56
rick_hthough the ratings on the new stuff from apc seems the same as the cyberpower so who knows17:56
rick_hif I were to get a new one I'd probably get something like http://www.amazon.com/APC-BR1500G-BACK-UPS-10-Outlet-1500VA/dp/B003Y24DEU/ref=pd_sim_e_217:57
brouschsnap-l: That computer you linked to is awesome. Look at dem floppy drives!17:57
snap-lhttp://ur1.ca/aul3e <- This is what I'm looking at in the Cyber Power line17:58
jrwrenwhat is this McD drop to which you refer?17:58
rick_hhttp://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500PFCLCD-Compatible-1500VA-Tower/dp/B00429N19W/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk though this one seems to be equivilent and does pure sine wave based on comments int he APC unit17:58
rick_hjrwren: 15:56  rick_h- this is part cool part crazy : http://goo.gl/wncIe17:58
rick_hsnap-l: so I've got a 1200 and I wouldn't run a desktop on it for very long17:59
snap-lrick_h: Yeah, that's the model / reviews of APC unit that got me thinking about the CyberPower17:59
rick_hI don't think it would run for very long tbh17:59
rick_hso I'd definitely not go lower than 1500 myself, and that's without a desktop17:59
snap-lYeah, I'm not looking to write a novel in the dark, just give it enough to shut down cleanly.17:59
rick_hjust switch, 2 routers, and att modem unit17:59
rick_hah, ok18:00
jrwreni only get about 20-30min on my 1500 with "home server" cable modem, AP and voip on it18:00
rick_hheh, see I want to keep my wif up for the power outage so 4+ hours of light usage is good18:00
snap-land if I calculate wrong, then let me know I've overloaded it.18:00
rick_hjrwren: yea, but if you shut down the home server you shold be able to keep the AP a lot longer.18:00
rick_hmy NAS is on the UPS, but it's the first thing I shut down18:00
jrwren*nod*18:02
jrwrenwhen I move to a house I may just get another ups for network gear and leave that one for the server.18:02
rick_hyea, my next one I want to talk myself into springing for a bigger unit18:03
rick_hpower outage? what power outage? http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT3000-3000VA-System/dp/B0036RFIA6/ref=sr_1_49?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1352397911&sr=1-49&keywords=apc+ups18:05
rick_hbuwhahaha18:05
snap-lYeah, that would be ideal. Get a separate unit for networking and one for the desktop18:05
brouschJust move your servers to the cloud18:06
greg-gin my Windows VM, updating Java: "By installing Java, you'll be able to experience the power of Java, brought to you by Oracle." Obvious Oracle is obvious.18:06
* greg-g hands head re brousch's comment18:06
brouschDon't forget to uncheck the Ask.com browser toolbar install18:07
greg-gyou try pushing 1 terabytes to the cloud and storing/getting it from there :) (and cheaper than what I paid for my eeepc+3 2tb disks) :)18:07
jrwrenit would be fun to move everything to DC power so those UPS are a bit more efficient18:07
greg-ghaha, just did, brousch :) you've done this before18:07
brouschDo you really need 90% of that on demand?18:07
rick_hI do the day my laptop hard drive dies18:08
greg-gno, but paying to store 1tb in S3 is expensive. Maybe glacier... but... I don't want to wait 4 hours to watch a movie or check out an old photo18:08
brouschI have everything I own on this 500GB HD + 120GB SSD18:09
* snap-l has an external HDD for backups18:09
* rick_h looks at 1.2TB of 2TB NAS filled with more I need to load on there18:09
brouschWhat is it?18:09
snap-lbrousch: ?18:10
brouschWhat do you have 1.2TB of?18:10
rick_hbackups, music, source code, pictures18:10
rick_hwife's backups18:10
greg-gmy photos are about 100 gb themselves. Add in videos, backed up music and movies, books, and then backups (both obnam for me and timemachine for carrie), I can't fit on 500 gig :)18:10
* snap-l needs to get some offsite backups going18:10
brouschShe has her own laptop, back her up to the cloud18:10
rick_hgithub/dropbox/U1/S3 for that for me18:11
greg-gspeaking of which18:11
* greg-g fires off a backup18:11
rick_hheh, cron ftw18:11
jrwren160GB of music, 800GB of tv, 600GB of movies :p18:12
jcastro_small fries18:12
brouschGeez. how do you get anything done with all that video?18:12
jrwren100GB of family photos and movies18:12
snap-l/dev/sdb1      961432072 647593072 265001000  71% /mnt/music18:12
jrwrensnap-l: -h pelase18:12
snap-l/dev/sdb1       985G  664G  272G  71% /mnt/music18:12
jcastro_here you go: /dev/sdd         11T  5.6T  5.0T  54% /maidentower18:12
jrwrenoh yeah, 800G of "other systems" backups18:13
jrwrenjcastro_: show off.18:13
greg-g3.7T  1.8T  1.8T  49% /mnt/blackbox18:13
snap-ljcastro_: That's because you're off-site storage for HBO. ;)18:13
greg-g(that's a btrfs raid1, hence it showing 3.7, but really it is 2, 2tb'ers)18:13
jrwrensdb1 and sdd, you going doing hardware raid?18:13
snap-lI have no raid on my desktop18:14
snap-lI have the laptoppiest desktop of all18:14
brouschhoarders18:15
greg-gyou betcha18:15
jcastro_greg-g: I too am waiting for btrfs raid518:15
snap-lbrousch: That's all of my CDs in FLAC format.18:15
jcastro_mine is raid1. :-/18:15
snap-land my downloads, and music for open metalcast18:15
greg-gjcastro_: given I only have room for 2 disks, I'm cool with raid118:15
jcastro_nice!18:16
rick_hyea, two disk raid1 in my NAS18:16
greg-gbut damn do I love btrfs snapshots18:16
snap-lhttp://paste.mitechie.com/show/835/18:16
greg-gsaved my butt already once18:16
greg-g24 hourly, 7 daily, 4 weekly, and 12 monthly snapshots I'm doing. On top of RAID1, plus a montly btrfs scrub, I ain't losing anything again!18:17
* greg-g knocks on wood18:17
greg-g;)18:17
jrwreni just use LVM mirror option18:17
* snap-l needs to look into btrfs18:17
jrwrenonly for the 300G of family stuff. the other 3TB i don't raid, its JBOD18:18
greg-gseriously, btrfs is awesome18:18
* greg-g nods18:18
jrwrenbtrfs is from oracle, so I don't like it.18:18
rick_hgreg-g: yea, I was hearing some awesome stuff at UDS about it18:18
jrwrenreiserfs was still technically more advanced than btrfs's storage.18:18
jrwrenbut btrfs has some sweet options like cow and snapshots18:18
greg-gjrwren: with btrfs you can do per-file raid. It'll make sure there are x copies across x disks for that one file, while everything else isn't18:18
jrwrengreg-g: that is awesome.18:19
greg-gand checksum checking on read, with auto fixing18:19
jrwrentoo bad its from oracle.18:19
greg-g:)18:19
jrwrenit will probably ask you to install the ask toolbar someday18:19
greg-ghahaha18:19
snap-lOr McAffee virus protection18:20
snap-lThat shit started with Sun though, righ?18:21
greg-gcorrect (I think)18:22
greg-gor, which? the ask.com? or btrfs?18:22
greg-gassuming since the word "shit" was used as the reference, it was ask.com18:22
greg-g:)18:22
snap-lbundled crap18:24
jrwrenoh yeah, sun did it.18:33
jrwrenin fact, I think it is gone from oracle jdk installer18:33
jrwreni didn't notice it when I installed jdk a couple days ago *cringe*18:33
brouschI did18:34
rick_hso ummm, what's wrong with this picture http://uploads.mitechie.com/heroku_pgsql.png19:45
greg-grick_h: what's GA in the bottom tweet?19:47
rick_hGA == General Availability19:47
rick_he.g. out of beta I believe19:47
greg-gah19:51
snap-lI'm not sure how I feel about this wasabi / cranberry trail mix.20:49
brouschYou like it20:49
snap-lI do, but it's strange.20:50
snap-l(trade Joes sells it)20:50
brouschHm http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/how-did-twitter-handle-election-tweets-less-ruby-more-java/21:05

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