[00:21] <snap-l> derekv: That's no good
[00:45] <rick_h> http://askubuntu.com/questions/214379/where-did-proc-acpi-battery-bat0-xxx-go-in-12-10 if anyone cares to give me an upvote or two?
[01:40] <rick_h> https://twitter.com/kennethreitz/status/266353191329869824
[02:53] <rick_h> Blazeix: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/view/head:/lib/lp/testing/factory.py
[02:53] <rick_h> and much simpler https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/tests/factory.py
[04:59] <Blazeix> rick_h: cool thanks
[12:54] <rick_h> strange wtf email of the day: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/Qr6LSq6Pif8TuGcS1Ckt/
[12:57] <brousch> $1000/hr d00d
[12:58] <rick_h> I don't even know wtf librtp is (had to google) and definitely no idea using it on iOS
[12:58] <brousch> But you would learn for $1000/hr
[12:58] <rick_h> hah
[13:00] <brousch> Hold on, I'll recommend you for rtmp on linkedin
[13:27] <snap-l> heh
[15:30] <shakes808> http://mlkshk.com/r/3DA2
[15:30] <shakes808> Random act for the day :D
[15:30] <shakes808> Top of the morn to ye all
[15:30] <snap-l> morning
[15:30] <snap-l> Seems like my day. :)
[15:47] <rick_h> is it friday yet?
[15:47] <rick_h> the boy slept until 6 today yay!
[15:47] <rick_h> recovering from DST step 2
[15:51] <brousch> DST hasn't been so much of a problem as full day Kindergarten. The boy keeps falling asleep during dinner.
[15:54] <rick_h> hah
[15:54] <rick_h> yea, when he first moved up a room in day care where they ran around and had more active play time he was soooo tired when he got home
[15:56] <rick_h> this is part cool part crazy : http://goo.gl/wncIe
[15:57] <rick_h> crazy to think a business never having a down month in 9yrs
[15:58] <brousch> Need moar Mcrib!
[16:02] <shakes808> snap-l: did you see my randomness?
[16:28] <greg-g> ingenious: http://www.bikehacks.com/bikehacks/2012/11/flip-flop-pedals.html
[16:29] <rick_h> ugh, need a much more solid base imo than a flip flop
[16:36] <shakes808> :( blocked,
[16:36] <shakes808> I am guessing it is a youtube vid
[16:36] <rick_h> vimeo
[16:37] <shakes808> yea
[16:37] <shakes808> :(
[16:37] <shakes808> that is all blocked
[16:37] <shakes808> and streaming music sites are blocked as well :(
[16:37] <shakes808> play is not though :D
[16:38] <greg-g> shakes808: basically, a guy made a bike pedal where the platform is a flip-flop (sandal)
[16:38] <greg-g> it's also kind of punny because there are "flip flop pedals" that are clip in on one side, and normal flats on the other
[16:39] <greg-g> dude looks like he got stoned one day, heard someone say "man, I love flip flop pedals" (meaning the traditional sense) and he replied "whoa.... dude..... flip flop, pedals."
[16:54] <snap-l> shakes808: Yeah, I did.
[16:55] <snap-l> greg-g: I already think flip flops (the footwear) are the devil's handiwork
[16:55] <rick_h> this file of JS is going to make me break down and cry...
[16:55] <rick_h> are we sure it's not friday yet?
[16:55] <snap-l> rick_h: One more day over the speedbump of Thursday
[16:57] <snap-l> Interesting re: the McD drop. But it would stand to reason when folks are trying to cut costs and stop eating like crap, McDs loses out
[16:57] <rick_h> yea, but after 9 years, 108 straight months and then boom
[16:57] <rick_h> kind of crazy to think
[16:57] <rick_h> I think it's less costs and more eating like crap tbh, I mean you can eat darn cheap
[16:58] <snap-l> rick_h: Perhaps it's the sign that the economy is improving
[16:58] <snap-l> people are OK with paying a little extra to not eat at McDs
[16:58] <rick_h> yea, maybe
[16:59] <greg-g> for rick_h http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcby0jlsQQI&feature=youtu.be&utm_source=buffer&buffer_share=b5cfb
[16:59] <snap-l> or, judging from the number of times I've almost gotten hit driving past it, they're OK with the dog-meat substitute at Taco Bell
[16:59] <rick_h> woot! clicky!
[17:01] <brousch> mmmmm, Taco Bell Volcano Menu
[17:01] <snap-l> great, we can work really hard to replicate the computing experience of this great machine: http://ur1.ca/aujlk
[17:02] <snap-l> (url shortened to add to the suspense)
[17:20] <greg-g> jcastro_: wait, chris crissaful lost like a ton a weight? https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/101586564530051299524/albums/5807044115282882465/5807074317344855906
[17:25] <jcastro_> he lost a ton
[17:25] <jcastro_> so did mike basinger
[17:25] <jcastro_> they're both hard to recognize now, lol
[17:26] <greg-g> thats great
[17:26] <greg-g> happy for them
[17:27] <greg-g> chris, I bet, is effing solid muscle. He seemed strong as hell before.
[17:41] <snap-l> Any opinions on the Cyberpower UPSes?
[17:41]  * rick_h is an APC man
[17:41] <snap-l> My APC battery is flat again, and it's going to cost half of what a new UPS would cost to replace it
[17:41] <snap-l> I think I'm driving too much on the current UPS
[17:42] <snap-l> and worse, our ground doesn't exist.
[17:42] <rick_h> ah yea, when power goes out I kill all but router/modem/router
[17:43] <snap-l> Well, you're on a laptop too. ;)
[17:43] <rick_h> yesterday got about 3.5hrs of time running network gear when power went out with my APC 1200
[17:43] <rick_h> isn't everyone :P
[17:43] <greg-g> laptop + NAS, way to live
[17:43] <rick_h> +1
[17:44] <rick_h> reminds me, need to turn the NAS back on snice I killed it yesterday
[17:49] <greg-g> and really, my setup is: laptop + smaller_laptop_acting_as_server :) So, my server has a built in UPS (just not the harddrives, they're external)
[17:52] <snap-l> I'm obviously asking the wrong crowd. :)
[17:53]  * snap-l looks around to see what other dinosaurs have tower desktop machines
[17:53] <rick_h> well not sure on that. Just don't own cyberpower stuff as they seem to be enough lower priced on things I don't trust it with stuff I don't want to risk failing
[17:54] <rick_h> the good ole fashioned 'if it's too good to be true...'
[17:54] <rick_h> but sucks you're having issues with APC so go for it I guess. The amazon reviews are 4+ stars
[17:54] <snap-l> rick_h: Yeah, that's kept me from hitting "one click"
[17:55] <snap-l> rick_h: What I worry about is if the APC folks have cheapened their consumer stuff to the point where it's just the brand name carrying it along
[17:55] <brousch> Desktop computer? Do you wear onions on your belt too?
[17:55] <rick_h> snap-l: definitely, looks like my model isn't around any more
[17:56] <snap-l> brousch: Only when I don't have a clove of garlic to keep the west michigan folks at bay.
[17:56] <rick_h> though the ratings on the new stuff from apc seems the same as the cyberpower so who knows
[17:57] <rick_h> if I were to get a new one I'd probably get something like http://www.amazon.com/APC-BR1500G-BACK-UPS-10-Outlet-1500VA/dp/B003Y24DEU/ref=pd_sim_e_2
[17:57] <brousch> snap-l: That computer you linked to is awesome. Look at dem floppy drives!
[17:58] <snap-l> http://ur1.ca/aul3e <- This is what I'm looking at in the Cyber Power line
[17:58] <jrwren> what is this McD drop to which you refer?
[17:58] <rick_h> http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500PFCLCD-Compatible-1500VA-Tower/dp/B00429N19W/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk though this one seems to be equivilent and does pure sine wave based on comments int he APC unit
[17:58] <rick_h> jrwren: 15:56  rick_h- this is part cool part crazy : http://goo.gl/wncIe
[17:59] <rick_h> snap-l: so I've got a 1200 and I wouldn't run a desktop on it for very long
[17:59] <snap-l> rick_h: Yeah, that's the model / reviews of APC unit that got me thinking about the CyberPower
[17:59] <rick_h> I don't think it would run for very long tbh
[17:59] <rick_h> so I'd definitely not go lower than 1500 myself, and that's without a desktop
[17:59] <snap-l> Yeah, I'm not looking to write a novel in the dark, just give it enough to shut down cleanly.
[17:59] <rick_h> just switch, 2 routers, and att modem unit
[18:00] <rick_h> ah, ok
[18:00] <jrwren> i only get about 20-30min on my 1500 with "home server" cable modem, AP and voip on it
[18:00] <rick_h> heh, see I want to keep my wif up for the power outage so 4+ hours of light usage is good
[18:00] <snap-l> and if I calculate wrong, then let me know I've overloaded it.
[18:00] <rick_h> jrwren: yea, but if you shut down the home server you shold be able to keep the AP a lot longer.
[18:00] <rick_h> my NAS is on the UPS, but it's the first thing I shut down
[18:02] <jrwren> *nod*
[18:02] <jrwren> when I move to a house I may just get another ups for network gear and leave that one for the server.
[18:03] <rick_h> yea, my next one I want to talk myself into springing for a bigger unit
[18:05] <rick_h> power outage? what power outage? http://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UPS-SMT3000-3000VA-System/dp/B0036RFIA6/ref=sr_1_49?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1352397911&sr=1-49&keywords=apc+ups
[18:05] <rick_h> buwhahaha
[18:05] <snap-l> Yeah, that would be ideal. Get a separate unit for networking and one for the desktop
[18:06] <brousch> Just move your servers to the cloud
[18:06] <greg-g> in my Windows VM, updating Java: "By installing Java, you'll be able to experience the power of Java, brought to you by Oracle." Obvious Oracle is obvious.
[18:06]  * greg-g hands head re brousch's comment
[18:07] <brousch> Don't forget to uncheck the Ask.com browser toolbar install
[18:07] <greg-g> you try pushing 1 terabytes to the cloud and storing/getting it from there :) (and cheaper than what I paid for my eeepc+3 2tb disks) :)
[18:07] <jrwren> it would be fun to move everything to DC power so those UPS are a bit more efficient
[18:07] <greg-g> haha, just did, brousch :) you've done this before
[18:07] <brousch> Do you really need 90% of that on demand?
[18:08] <rick_h> I do the day my laptop hard drive dies
[18:08] <greg-g> no, but paying to store 1tb in S3 is expensive. Maybe glacier... but... I don't want to wait 4 hours to watch a movie or check out an old photo
[18:09] <brousch> I have everything I own on this 500GB HD + 120GB SSD
[18:09]  * snap-l has an external HDD for backups
[18:09]  * rick_h looks at 1.2TB of 2TB NAS filled with more I need to load on there
[18:09] <brousch> What is it?
[18:10] <snap-l> brousch: ?
[18:10] <brousch> What do you have 1.2TB of?
[18:10] <rick_h> backups, music, source code, pictures
[18:10] <rick_h> wife's backups
[18:10] <greg-g> my photos are about 100 gb themselves. Add in videos, backed up music and movies, books, and then backups (both obnam for me and timemachine for carrie), I can't fit on 500 gig :)
[18:10]  * snap-l needs to get some offsite backups going
[18:10] <brousch> She has her own laptop, back her up to the cloud
[18:11] <rick_h> github/dropbox/U1/S3 for that for me
[18:11] <greg-g> speaking of which
[18:11]  * greg-g fires off a backup
[18:11] <rick_h> heh, cron ftw
[18:12] <jrwren> 160GB of music, 800GB of tv, 600GB of movies :p
[18:12] <jcastro_> small fries
[18:12] <brousch> Geez. how do you get anything done with all that video?
[18:12] <jrwren> 100GB of family photos and movies
[18:12] <snap-l> /dev/sdb1      961432072 647593072 265001000  71% /mnt/music
[18:12] <jrwren> snap-l: -h pelase
[18:12] <snap-l> /dev/sdb1       985G  664G  272G  71% /mnt/music
[18:12] <jcastro_> here you go: /dev/sdd         11T  5.6T  5.0T  54% /maidentower
[18:13] <jrwren> oh yeah, 800G of "other systems" backups
[18:13] <jrwren> jcastro_: show off.
[18:13] <greg-g> 3.7T  1.8T  1.8T  49% /mnt/blackbox
[18:13] <snap-l> jcastro_: That's because you're off-site storage for HBO. ;)
[18:13] <greg-g> (that's a btrfs raid1, hence it showing 3.7, but really it is 2, 2tb'ers)
[18:13] <jrwren> sdb1 and sdd, you going doing hardware raid?
[18:14] <snap-l> I have no raid on my desktop
[18:14] <snap-l> I have the laptoppiest desktop of all
[18:15] <brousch> hoarders
[18:15] <greg-g> you betcha
[18:15] <jcastro_> greg-g: I too am waiting for btrfs raid5
[18:15] <snap-l> brousch: That's all of my CDs in FLAC format.
[18:15] <jcastro_> mine is raid1. :-/
[18:15] <snap-l> and my downloads, and music for open metalcast
[18:15] <greg-g> jcastro_: given I only have room for 2 disks, I'm cool with raid1
[18:16] <jcastro_> nice!
[18:16] <rick_h> yea, two disk raid1 in my NAS
[18:16] <greg-g> but damn do I love btrfs snapshots
[18:16] <snap-l> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/835/
[18:16] <greg-g> saved my butt already once
[18:17] <greg-g> 24 hourly, 7 daily, 4 weekly, and 12 monthly snapshots I'm doing. On top of RAID1, plus a montly btrfs scrub, I ain't losing anything again!
[18:17]  * greg-g knocks on wood
[18:17] <greg-g> ;)
[18:17] <jrwren> i just use LVM mirror option
[18:17]  * snap-l needs to look into btrfs
[18:18] <jrwren> only for the 300G of family stuff. the other 3TB i don't raid, its JBOD
[18:18] <greg-g> seriously, btrfs is awesome
[18:18]  * greg-g nods
[18:18] <jrwren> btrfs is from oracle, so I don't like it.
[18:18] <rick_h> greg-g: yea, I was hearing some awesome stuff at UDS about it
[18:18] <jrwren> reiserfs was still technically more advanced than btrfs's storage.
[18:18] <jrwren> but btrfs has some sweet options like cow and snapshots
[18:18] <greg-g> jrwren: with btrfs you can do per-file raid. It'll make sure there are x copies across x disks for that one file, while everything else isn't
[18:19] <jrwren> greg-g: that is awesome.
[18:19] <greg-g> and checksum checking on read, with auto fixing
[18:19] <jrwren> too bad its from oracle.
[18:19] <greg-g> :)
[18:19] <jrwren> it will probably ask you to install the ask toolbar someday
[18:19] <greg-g> hahaha
[18:20] <snap-l> Or McAffee virus protection
[18:21] <snap-l> That shit started with Sun though, righ?
[18:22] <greg-g> correct (I think)
[18:22] <greg-g> or, which? the ask.com? or btrfs?
[18:22] <greg-g> assuming since the word "shit" was used as the reference, it was ask.com
[18:22] <greg-g> :)
[18:24] <snap-l> bundled crap
[18:33] <jrwren> oh yeah, sun did it.
[18:33] <jrwren> in fact, I think it is gone from oracle jdk installer
[18:33] <jrwren> i didn't notice it when I installed jdk a couple days ago *cringe*
[18:34] <brousch> I did
[19:45] <rick_h> so ummm, what's wrong with this picture http://uploads.mitechie.com/heroku_pgsql.png
[19:47] <greg-g> rick_h: what's GA in the bottom tweet?
[19:47] <rick_h> GA == General Availability
[19:47] <rick_h> e.g. out of beta I believe
[19:51] <greg-g> ah
[20:49] <snap-l> I'm not sure how I feel about this wasabi / cranberry trail mix.
[20:49] <brousch> You like it
[20:50] <snap-l> I do, but it's strange.
[20:50] <snap-l> (trade Joes sells it)
[21:05] <brousch> Hm http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/how-did-twitter-handle-election-tweets-less-ruby-more-java/