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Kilosmorning all05:10
Kilosty inetpro 05:10
mazalMorning all05:16
Kiloshi mazal 05:17
Kilosno all here yet they still sleeping05:17
Kilosmaybe Squirm 05:18
* Kilos peeks at Squirm 05:18
* mazal have to work in the field again today05:25
Kiloslekker UV's05:25
mazalNo field like in with the users05:27
mazalLots of Outlook setups05:27
Kiloslol05:27
Kiloseish05:27
Kilosms mail thing?05:27
Kiloseeek05:27
Kilosoutlook express was a tiny bit more me friendly05:28
mazalJa , think of me lol05:28
Kiloswill do05:29
Kilosthey actually not that bad once you remember to ad the :995 and :46505:29
Kilosoh that was on pop05:30
mazalBiggest problem is our slow network and users forgetting their passwords05:32
mazal1mb line on 200 pc05:32
mazalThat makes any setup very hard05:32
Kilosya thats not fast enough for all those pc's05:32
mazalAnd we not allowed to upgrade it05:32
Kiloswhy?05:33
Kilosfibre could help05:33
Kilosget the mines to sponsor fibre all over05:33
mazalI'm not at the mine oom kilos05:34
mazalDCS05:34
Kilosja but they in the area05:35
mazalOnly our Head Office is alowed to upgrade05:35
mazalAnd they don't want to05:35
Kilosthat sucks05:35
mazalMoney always an issue05:35
Kilostell them you feed the others05:35
Kilosno fibre no food05:35
Kiloshehe05:35
mazallol05:36
Kiloswith all those pc's you even slower than gprs05:39
Squirmmorning05:39
Kiloshi Squirm  no yawns?05:39
mazall8tr guys05:40
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Kiloscheers mazal_away enjoy05:41
magespawnmorning all05:57
sakhiMornings06:14
Kiloshi magespawn sakhi 06:20
magespawnhey Kilos sakhi06:20
Kilosbrb06:25
superflygoeie more almal06:29
superflymagespawn: have you picked up your devices yet?06:29
magespawnyes yesterday charged mine over night06:30
SquirmKilos: very many yawns06:35
Kiloshi superfly 06:35
SquirmMaaz: coffee on06:35
* Maaz starts grinding coffee06:35
Kiloslol06:35
magespawnMaaz coffee please06:35
Maazmagespawn: Righto06:35
superflymagespawn: OK, great. the ladies asked me to give you a prod :-)06:35
KilosMaaz, coffee please06:35
MaazKilos: Sure06:35
superflymorning Kilos06:35
magespawnsuperfly just been a bit busy06:36
superflymagespawn: np06:37
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm, magespawn and Kilos!06:39
KilosMaaz, ty06:39
MaazYou are welcome Kilos06:39
magespawnMaaz botsnack06:41
MaazYay, at last someone thinks about me as well06:41
* magespawn listens to Metallica Enter Sandman06:42
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magespawnshowing my age a bit06:47
Kiloshi jrgns 06:54
magespawnsuperfly i seem to have some sort of problem getting the screen saver to come on automatically in kubuntu any ideas?06:54
superflymagespawn: you have enabled it, I presume?06:54
magespawnyup but it always seems to default to blank screen06:55
magespawnokay just got a message to install a package to extend the functionality of screen saver06:57
magespawnmaybe that was dthe problem only had the blank screen as an option06:57
magespawnalmost always the easiest/simplest answer07:00
SquirmMaaz: coffee on07:01
* Maaz flips the salt-timer07:01
magespawnMaaz the coffee barrister07:02
Maazmagespawn: Excuse me?07:02
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm!07:05
SquirmMaaz: finally07:11
MaazSquirm: Huh?07:11
SquirmMaaz: thanks07:11
MaazSquirm: Okay :-)07:11
magespawnanybody know how to write a sarcasm plugin for ibid07:13
magespawn?07:13
magespawn?07:13
superflymagespawn: I've written a plugin for ibid, but I'm not sure what the requirements would be for sarcasm :-)07:28
magespawnlol07:36
magespawnbit hard to define in  PROGRAM07:36
magespawnsorry for the caps07:36
Kilosmagespawn, you got your screensavers working?08:13
magespawnyup08:13
Kilosby installing the extras?08:13
Kiloskde is a bit different hey08:13
magespawnthe screensaver was working but it was just a blank screen nothing else08:14
magespawn a little 08:14
Kiloslol now i cant member if mine were working. i go kde and see08:14
Kiloswbb08:14
Kiloshmm08:17
magespawnand?08:20
charlvnmoshi moshi08:38
charlvngood morning all08:38
charlvnMaaz: coffee on08:38
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:38
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn!08:42
Kiloslo charlvn08:47
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Kiloswb Squirm09:01
Kilosyou were flooded09:01
inetprogood morning09:09
Kiloshi inetpro09:10
Kilosbegin die grass al geel word09:10
inetproKilos: nope09:12
Kilosactually very clever poison that. grass leaves go yellow but it stops there and regrows new leaves09:12
Kilosbut it goes right down into the roots of bubbeltjies09:12
Kilosdubbeltjies too09:12
* inetpro very tired today09:13
Kilosaw what you did last night?09:13
inetprono it's because of the previous night09:13
Kiloswhat you did the previous night09:13
inetprowe were moving servers around and ended up having network cabling problems 09:13
Kiloseish09:14
Kilosvery difficult to catch up on lost sleep09:14
Kilosis it sorted now at least?09:14
inetprowent to sleep at around 3:00 in the morning only to rush to the office at 6:00 again09:14
Kiloseish09:14
inetprosorted yesterday afternoon09:15
Kilostake weeks to catch up09:15
inetprofeels like the whole escapade added 5 years to my age09:16
* inetpro hates having downtime in this 24/7/365 world of ours09:18
Kilosai09:18
Kilosand you were old to start with09:19
Kiloshehe09:19
inetprolol09:19
inetproKilos: so you have a cure to make me younger again?09:19
Kilosyeah but its not for married men09:20
Kilosbut lemme think a bit09:20
mazalEasy , get out of IT lol09:20
Kilosoh ya there was a multivit product that they took of the market here years ago which really worked09:21
Kilossuper plenimans09:21
Kilosgoogle them and maybe you can find some to order09:21
Kilosi used them for a while when young and often had to go for a 5k run at night because i couldnt sleep09:22
Kiloshttp://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/super-plenamins09:25
Kiloshmm 09:25
Kilosmazal: much harder to do pik en foshel09:26
Kilossjoe forgot how to spell spade inna taal09:26
Kilosor spend a dave mixing concrete by hand09:28
Kilosday09:28
inetpromazal: I think you have the right idea09:29
inetprobut then, won't work for me09:30
* inetpro still enjoys to much of that adrenalin rush every now and then09:30
inetproKilos: eish, dit klink na harde werk09:32
inetpromixing concrete is a killer09:33
Kiloslol09:33
Kilosdid it once in hluhluwe in the sun at 45 c temp and burnt blisters through a tea shirt09:33
Kilosthose pills really work, i dunno why they stopped importing them09:36
inetproKilos: sounds like a magic potion09:39
inetproKilos: I'm not sure whether that magic potion will work on me09:46
Kiloslol09:46
Kilosthey stopped importing for some or other reason09:47
* inetpro just needs caffeine in the bloodstream 09:47
inetproMaaz: coffee on09:47
* Maaz washes some mugs09:47
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro!09:51
inetproMaaz: dankie oom09:51
MaazGeniet boetie09:51
inetproKilos: waarmee is jy so besig vandag?09:52
inetprojy te stil09:52
charlvnhi Kilos, inetpro 09:52
inetprocharlvn: wb09:52
Kilosmaak kosse en sovoorts09:52
inetpromooi09:53
Kilosaw i missed coffee09:53
Kilosthis quassel dont bloep me09:54
Kilosgrrr09:54
Kiloskom groot reen09:54
inetproKilos: mooi09:56
Kilosnee man ek roep die goed09:56
Kilosis julle servers als linux inetpro?09:57
inetprosolaris, freebsd en ubuntu09:57
Kiloshoekom 3 verskillendes09:58
inetproKilos: legacy09:58
Kilos?09:58
Kiloso09:58
Kilosinherited09:58
inetproso iets09:58
Kiloshehe09:58
inetprosolaris met sparc was top of the range vir baie jare09:59
Kilosuit die boonste gestaltes10:04
Kiloswhatever gestaltes mag wees10:04
inetproKilos: yip, net so10:05
Squirmhello10:06
SquirmI was flooded?10:06
Kiloshey barnslong time no see10:06
Kilossec i find it Squirm10:06
Squirmthen why disconnect me, why not disconnect the thing that flooded me10:06
Squirm(Excess Flood)]10:07
SquirmI know10:07
Kilosya that10:07
Squirmdoesn't that usually mean I flooded? even though I havent been at my pc since 10 :/10:07
Kilosnope its the thing you connected to10:07
Squirm-_^10:08
KilosSquirm (~sinjin@b09s22le.corenetworks.net) has quit (Excess Flood)10:08
Kiloscforenetworks thing10:08
Kiloswithout the f in10:08
Squirmshouldnt10:08
Kilosmaybe all the kids were online same time10:09
Kilosstreaming movies10:09
Squirmno10:09
* Squirm shrugs10:09
inetproSquirm: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat_flood10:15
SquirmI know what a flood is10:17
Kiloslol10:19
Kilosso cheeky10:19
Kilosyo Mzolisto10:19
Kiloshe the xhosa guy?10:20
inetproKilos: sjoe!10:28
inetproBenoni hail storm - please be safe out there, pay extra attention when driving please! http://t.co/Zy8D0DvK10:29
Kiloshail is better than nothing10:31
Kilosbut note its the peeps in town that get everything10:31
Kilosi just hear the thunder far away10:31
Kilosdit kan kom hael. wind van noord noord oos10:38
KilosNNE10:38
Kilosah the hmmer has arrived10:44
KilosBanlam: bakuman barns you guys quiet hey10:45
Kilosnot even a morning today10:45
mazalHuge hail storm through here now11:24
mazalGolf balls and bigger11:24
mazalIt's moving towards the north of PTA it looks like11:25
Kiloshmm i just hear the thunder11:52
Squirmmazal: I heard it hit Krugersdorp11:58
Kiloswe getting some rain. yay12:05
Kilosmazal: you at baviaans or sonderwater12:06
Kilosand a bit of small hail12:19
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Kilosoops getting bigger thumb nail size12:20
magespawnguys any of you know whioch is the smallest linux distro that is based on debian or ubuntu?12:40
Kerberolubuntu?12:41
Kerberoi run that on my netbook and it is pretty light12:41
Kerberoassuming you mean light by small12:41
magespawnyup looking for something ro run off a flash drive12:44
magespawnhave 12.04 running from a 16gig 12:44
magespawnbut want to try something smaller and lighter12:44
Trixar_zaDepends on your requirements of light and small12:52
Trixar_zaFor example, you have mini and netboot editions (for Debian) that are small: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD12:54
magespawnwell i would liek it to work with as wide a range of hardware as possible talking processors and ram 12:54
Trixar_zaThen you get Ubuntu Mini Remix that's slightly bigger, but easier to use than the above two: http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/12:55
magespawnis that one you where talking about debian based12:55
magespawn?12:55
magespawnslitrax I think?12:56
magespawnalso going to give puppy a go12:57
Trixar_zaNo, it's independent13:01
Trixar_zaOwn package management and everything13:01
Trixar_zaBeen looking into it13:01
Trixar_zaAntiX looks interesting13:01
Trixar_zaOh that reminds me13:01
Trixar_zaLupu is based on an older version of Ubuntu13:02
Trixar_zaIt's pretty good if you can live with Puppy13:02
magespawni also have backtrack installed on an 8 gig but to use that properly will take a bit more learning13:03
Trixar_zaThey really should use a newer Ubuntu for Lupu - Lucid is ancient13:07
Trixar_zaAlthough I admit I have a copy of 5.2.8 which I use surprisingly often13:07
Trixar_zaYou can listen to music and even watch movies (DVD and DivX) movies out of the box for only 140MB13:08
magespawnvery cool I have a lappy here with no hard drive and i am going to use it there on occasion13:16
Squirmmagespawn: backtrack is cool13:28
SquirmI got the airtools working, but not off backtrack13:28
Squirmcracked a 128bit wep key in ~30min13:28
magespawnwow does anybody still use wep?13:28
Trixar_zaYou'd be surprised13:35
Trixar_zaIt tends to come up atleast a few times every 2 weeks on SliTaz's forum13:35
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superflymagespawn: still around?15:10
nlsthzno/15:32
Kiloswbb hi nlsthzn15:46
nlsthznalo uncle Kilos 15:58
nlsthznfood time :D15:58
Kilosenjoy15:59
Kilos20mm inetpro 16:04
Kiloshi tumbleweed just grunt or groan now and again so we know you going strong16:05
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=== Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero
Kilosif you sigh well worry16:05
Kiloslo Kerbero 16:06
tumbleweedKilos: heh, yeah16:06
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Kiloshi Vince-0 psydroid magtie 16:55
psydroidhi Kilos16:57
Vince-0haai16:57
Kilosyou know a haai is a big fish that eats peeps hey?16:59
Kilosi go eat quick16:59
superflyKilos: actually, they much prefer seals17:07
superflygreat whites, that is.17:07
Kiloslol17:18
Kilosi was body surficing while lifesaving in toti when les piper had his leg taken off17:19
Kilossurfing17:19
Kiloswalked on water that day . hit the beach still swimming17:20
Kilosif i member right it was a zambezi shark that hit him. luckily some surfers helped with their boards17:22
Kilosfor weeks no holiday makers went deeper than ankle deep17:22
Kilosand a month later damoen kendrick lost his leg while surfing and warner beach17:23
Kilosdamen17:23
Kilosthat must be about 37 years ago17:25
Kilosyo hubx 17:25
hubxhi there17:26
Kilosdid you win the other day. forgot what you were doing17:26
hubxwin what?17:27
Kilosim  trying to remember17:28
Kilosyou and inetpro were trying to get something going17:28
hubxah, yes. the traffic counter per ssid.17:28
hubxnope17:28
Kilosaw17:28
hubxjust ignoring the traffic for now :/17:29
Kiloslol17:29
Kilosthats one way of doing it17:29
Kiloshow many machines on the network?17:29
hubxI don't know maybe 8.17:30
hubxbut that is th wrong questions. I want to count the traffic on _my_ ubuntu notebook. I can't change the router or what not ;)17:31
Kilosnot linux machines either or you could install iftop on each one and look who uses what17:31
Kilosoh17:32
Kilosdid you ask our mailing lists17:32
Kilosmaybe someone there has tried17:32
Kilosubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com17:33
hubxnope, but i googled it and there is no out-of-the-box solution available.17:33
Kilosouch17:33
Kiloshave you joined our list?17:34
hubxyes, that happens, but I realized that Ubuntu really is for people with fast,uncapped internet connections.17:34
Kilossometimes some interesting workarounds there17:34
hubxno delta updates, no traffic aware OS.17:35
Kilosno man im on 3g17:35
hubxit would be really cool to allow traffic limits on a application level. android can at least display that.17:35
Kilosbut with updates turned off17:36
hubxyes I can understand that. what to pay per month?17:36
hubx*do you17:36
Kilosi use a 2gB +1gB every 2 months17:37
KilosR146 with 8ta17:37
Kilos1gB is after 11pm17:37
hubxoh thats quite cheap compared to what I payed for my 1GB @ vodacom17:38
Kilos8ta is really cheap17:38
Kilosi was on voda for a long time17:38
Kilossometimes had to stretch 500mB for 2 months17:39
hubxand how is the net service? speed and availability?17:39
Kiloshehe go 8ta17:39
hubx1GB is R28517:39
Kilosspeed with downloads runs between 200kB/s and 390 kB/s17:40
hubxya mean I read @ http://prepaidwithdata.wikia.com/wiki/South_Africa that 8ta is the cheapest option17:40
Kilos8ta is telkom run so should have coverage everywhere17:40
hubxbut as non-SA-citizen I can't buy a sim card :(17:41
nuvolariwhut?? I think some people are not allowed to roam the streets of the world freely. SABC2 - Xfactor17:41
Kilosspeed is the same as voda but doesnt drop as low17:41
nuvolaricrazy mad17:41
nuvolarihi oom Kilos 17:41
nuvolarihi hubx 17:41
Kiloshi nuvolari 17:41
hubxso the guy who bought me the SIM said vodacom is much better, so I went with that17:41
hubxhi nuvolari 17:41
Kiloshubx, they are cheap17:42
nuvolariheh, better at sucking yeah :P17:42
Kiloslike R% a sim17:42
hubxHm, yes Kilos I think vodacom is a little bit faster17:42
Kilosits just the registering17:42
Kilosno voda here went down to like 50 kB/s at times17:42
Kilos8ta much more stable here by me17:43
hubxKilos, Oh you mean I should just enter rubbish at the online registration form?17:43
Kilosnope17:43
Kilosyou cant, you have to take in a light or rates account or something17:43
Kilosnuvolari, you done the rica trip hey?17:44
Kilosbut you can buy the sis and they register then at places like checkers and the post office17:44
Kilossims17:44
hubxas I said not as non-SA-resident17:45
Kilosyou get the account from the owner of the place you stay at with a letter i think17:45
hubxanyway, I will pay the foreigner fee ;)17:45
nuvolariya oom Kilos 17:46
Kilosno man17:46
Kilostell hubx whats invloved nuvolari 17:46
nuvolaripfft, what foreigner fee?17:46
nuvolari8ta is free17:46
Kiloshe isnt the owner either hubx 17:46
Kilostell him how to rica an 8ta sim17:46
nuvolarihubx: do you receive a pay slip?17:46
hubxnuvolari, yes17:47
nuvolarihubx: does it have an address on it?17:47
nuvolarithat should be OK17:48
hubxoh you mean like a written statements, no I don't have that17:48
nuvolarieh? no17:48
nuvolarijust a pay slip with an address on it17:48
nuvolariphysical address17:48
Kilosyour landlord can help you too im sure17:48
hubxyes, anyway thanks for help, but please don't discuss about 100R/m ;)17:48
nuvolarieh?17:49
hubxthe difference between vodacom and 8ta is roughly R100 per 1GB17:49
hubxso it is actually R50/m because I only use 500mb/m ;)17:50
hubxbut thanks for the help17:50
Kilosok sorry we couldnt help more17:50
nuvolariwait wait17:56
nuvolarihubx: 8ta is R150/2Gb+1gb17:56
nuvolarivodacom is like 389 for something similar?17:56
Vince-0RAWR18:24
nuvolariho! Gave us a fright right there Vince-0 18:29
nuvolari:P18:29
Vince-0ha18:31
nuvolariMaaz: is facebook.com up?18:54
Maaznuvolari: Yes, http://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser is up18:54
nuvolariheh18:54
nuvolariZuckerberg probably had a tantrum18:58
Kiloslol18:58
Kiloshe thinks he is more frightening as a lion than a shark18:59
smileE17Here is a reminder how powerful a force Media24 is in the South African magazine world. At the 2010 MPASA PICA Awards held late last week in Cape Town, its associate companies, including New Media Publishing and Touchline Media, picked up an incredible 22 awards. Out of 29.19:18
smileE17:o19:18
smileE17@ http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/39/54293.html19:18
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Kiloslol hi smile4ever 19:19
inetprogood morning19:19
Kilosmorning inetpro  you must go sleep early19:20
smile4everKilos: what do you think about it? :p19:20
inetproKilos: uh?19:20
Kiloswill takes weeks to catch up19:20
inetproit not morning now?19:20
Kilossmile4ever, i didnt go look19:20
inetprooh Kilos, I got 15mm19:21
Kilosmaybe you should send kids to gran for weekend inetpro  so you can sleep19:21
inetproKilos: na I'm fine actually19:21
smile4everKilos: oh i see :p19:21
inetprowas just jokin about morning19:21
Kilosah thats good inetpro 19:21
* inetpro just came back from budget meeting at school19:22
nuvolariinetpro: do I need to call the ambulance?19:25
inetpronuvolari: for?19:26
nuvolarithe outcome of the budget meeting :P19:26
inetpronuvolari: no it's ok really, our fees are very reasonable19:26
inetprocan't complain about that19:27
* inetpro has been involved for six years and know how much effort it takes to keep the ball rolling 19:27
inetpronuvolari: in fact our school fees at Laerskool Vissershoek are very cheap at R550 pm19:29
inetproand the value you get out of it is really much higher than in other schools19:30
smile4everbyeee :p19:30
inetprosmile4ever: good night19:31
smile4everthanks you too :D19:31
inetpronuvolari: it's a small farm school environment where the kid is not just a number19:31
Kilosnight smile4ever 19:32
smile4everthanks :)19:32
Kilossjoe inetpro and i complained about paying R3.500 a year at ians school19:32
nuvolariinetpro: that's nice!19:32
Kilosmaritzburg college19:32
nuvolariI always hear about my dad's tales about the farm school and sometimes wish I could experience it :P19:33
inetproKilos: times have changed, R550 is really very cheap compared to others19:33
inetproKilos: obviously it's still a lot of money19:34
inetproespecially when you have more then one kid19:35
inetprothan*19:35
Kilosand 19 years later and money really worth nothing now so it is cheap ya19:35
Kiloswait till they go to varsity19:35
Kilosbut he left DHS at about 1k a year and then hit the 3.5k i flipped19:37
Kilosyou pay for the name19:37
inetproKilos: and if you're still up at this time of day/night19:46
inetpro?19:46
Kiloslol sis was playing freecell20:01
Kilosnow i can say night all. sleep tight. see you morrow20:01
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