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naxildream?01:04
naxilanyone is here?01:04
unheedingno01:04
naxilunheeding.. i have a problem.. i need to set my wifi internal card to hotspot01:09
naxilcan u helpme?01:09
naxili have xubuntu12.1001:09
unheedingi can't sorry01:09
naxilok01:10
naxilunheeding, u know where is Propietary driver on xubuntu?01:12
Unit193naxil: Software Sources, last tab.01:36
naxilUnit193, i need to turn my wifi internal card to master/hotspot01:52
naxilis atheros card and teh driver is ath501:52
naxilhow to do it?01:53
Unit193!atheros01:59
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:59
naxiltnx bye02:08
Cigamhey there djtf02:37
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c2tarunhi friends, tab is not working for commands in my xubuntu terminal. Though its working for location/paths.04:37
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c2tarunhi friends, tab is not working for commands in my xubuntu terminal. Though its working for location/paths.05:59
holsteinhttp://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/1150-terminal-tab-completion-missing-solved/06:05
c2tarunholstein, I am also facing one more problem, I am not seeing any color schemes in xubuntu terminal. In ubuntu/kubuntu all the executable files are displayed with green, folders with blue, but there is nothing like that here.06:07
c2taruncan anyone please suggest me a good or better terminal emulator for xubuntu?06:09
nikolamc2tarun, you don't like the default one, Terminal ?06:14
c2tarunnikolam, actually I just found out the problem :( I mounted my other partition over /home and that is why .bashrc is missing which is causing all the troubles06:15
c2tarunI just need a way to bring bashrc back. Is there anyway of copying the file without unmounting home?06:15
nikolamc2tarun, wel mount the other one to /tmp and copy it06:16
Unit193Copy from /etc/skel/.bashrc06:16
c2tarunUnit193, I checked .bashrc is not there as well06:16
c2tarunohh sorry that must be hidden :P Its so stupid06:17
c2tarunUnit193, great thanks :)06:17
Unit193Sure thing.06:18
nikolamOr having another user with sudo privileges handy and log in using consoles (ctrl alt f2)06:18
c2tarunnikolam, thanks for help :) I found .bashrc in /etc/skel06:19
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ZoraktarI'm having worst luck of getting some ubuntu help... I have tried almost all forums links about Non-pae linux and still not getting any... Last downloaded were Xubuntu 12.04.1 what i was told is for Non-Pae computers... Any suggestions?11:02
ZoraktarComputer is Hp Compaq nx6110 and it's not having PAE support. At least installer tells me that.11:03
ochosihm, strange, 12.04 should support non-pae11:05
ochosipersonally i don't have any non-pae supporting pcs, so i don't have any experience with this11:05
ochosihave you tried the alternate installer?11:05
ZoraktarHmm i'm not pretty sure. I been trying with CD and with USB installer atm but seems it does not just want to try even from USB anymore.11:07
knome12.04 has non-pae11:09
ochosi(knome is my parrot-friend :))11:09
* knome dances the parrot dance11:09
ochosithis isn't a very lively dance – this parrot is dead!11:10
ZoraktarHeh. Yeah but still when trying to boot it comes error about Pae. No OS installed and only USB device in with universal USB installer but still getting that error.11:10
knomeochosi, har har... :))11:10
ochosiZoraktar: yes, but as i said, it might be that you need to use the alternate, not the desktop image for that (i'm guessing a bit here though)11:11
ZoraktarOkies. What to do then?11:11
ochosidl the alternate image, create a usb-stick with that and see whether the installation works11:12
ZoraktarOkies. Trying that. Btw what you think about using Xubuntu at school computers? Is there some law issues or could this just be installed? School is poor and computers cant run even XP well. They asked me about different OS systems what can go net and got some office clone :)11:13
ochosiyeah, no problem11:13
ochosiit's quite nice for that imo11:14
ZoraktarYeah that's why tryng it. Found 500Mhz laptop with 512mb ram inside. XP were so slow that i werent able to listen music well with that machine.11:14
ochosiif the performance of xubuntu isn't satisfactory, you can as well try lubuntu, it's supposedly a bit lighter on resources11:15
ochosior you can cut down certain things in xubuntu (mostly things that make your life easier though) and get a really light desktop11:15
ZoraktarYeah well it needs to have kinda these stuff inside: Flash support, Java support, Shockwave support (as web-browsing only) and Wireless + Printer installing support.11:16
ZoraktarAh and ofc some text program what allows you print and make some almost "offical" papers.11:16
ochosiyeah well, flash is a performance problem on all platforms...11:19
baizonhtml5 is a better solution11:19
ZoraktarWhat kinda problem? Because this would come only for like stuff like android got nothing like really heavy flash games. Tough could keep as "office" computer that too.11:21
ochosiit's simply that flash consumes a lot of cpu power, so if you don't have a lot of that, that can cause problems11:22
ZoraktarAlternative install downloaded. I have only USB stick atm to use. Do i burn image with Power-iso to bootable or do i use universal USB installer?11:31
Yotsonunetbootin +1 ;)11:33
c2tarunmy system is not remembering my brightness settings. How can I do that?15:17
wonderworldhi, since 12.10 i hve problems with running KDE-apps under xubuntu. after start the window sometimes shows and sometimes doesnt. the process is running but the application window fails to spwan. this happens with kaffeine, k3b, yakuake, konversation, etc15:43
GridCubehavent heard of this before, let me do some research15:46
wonderworldi can't really reproduce it. it just works sometimes15:46
wonderworldi'd say i can run run KDE-apps about 3 times out of 10 tries15:46
wonderworldwith 12.04 and before it always worked without any problems at all15:47
GridCubewonderworld, try launching from a terminal and see if you get a warning like this: QGtkstyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme15:49
wonderworldnope, i dont. I am getting this:15:50
wonderworldQDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.15:50
wonderworldQDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.15:50
wonderworldbut i am getting this no matter if it wokrs or not15:50
GridCubemmhm, try a few times till you get one that doesnt work15:52
wonderworldok, let me try15:52
wonderworldhaha testing effect15:55
wonderworldworks now. strange15:55
GridCubeXD15:55
wonderworldmaybe i need to reboot first. i think something is not properly initialized15:55
GridCubewell15:55
wonderworldand some app does it, if i successfully start it15:55
GridCubewonderworld, maybe this will point you to where to look at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=70249315:58
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 702493 in qt "Qt Applications don't pick up gtk theme" [Medium,New]15:58
wonderworldhey, thanks a lot, i'll have a look.15:59
wonderworldcan't reboot right now, i'll try later15:59
wonderworldthanks for being helpful :)15:59
GridCubewonderworld, i would also suggest you to report this bug anyway once you have found some clues15:59
wonderworldyes i will16:00
GridCube:) also this might help aswel: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=94021316:00
wonderworldok, i guess it's neither of the two bugs. *if* the app starts, it works just fine. themed and with icons16:07
wonderworldi'll reboot now. be back in a minute...16:07
wonderworldok back16:11
wonderworldvery strange. it seems to work now.16:11
wonderworldit didn't 2 days ago16:11
wonderworldmaybe some update fixed it16:11
wonderworldsorry for wasting your time16:12
AmmarHi, can anybody tell me where to find the difference between *ubuntu-distros ? I mean a real comperance, I am a developer coming from windows, and I am already fed up with it, and want to change...16:22
AmmarI am totally in Linux since almost 1 year, but was just working with Server-versions, so I know the meaning of so many things, but still need help...16:23
bpuzzledAmmar: essentially it comes down to what packages are pre-installed.16:24
bpuzzledAmmar: and that depends on their target audience.16:24
AmmarI am student of software engineer, but working also as Android Developer, and have experience in that, so which one would suite me ?16:25
AmmarI have searched online of course, and only found non-detailed compare16:25
bpuzzledagain, ultimately they're all the same -- just have different preinstalled software.  xubuntu is a fine choice.  it just comes down to preference.16:26
wonderworldAmmar: basicly they are all the same with slightly different preinstalled software16:26
GridCubewonderworld, :) thats nice to hear, maybe something else was off, keep your eyes open :D16:26
wonderworldyou can install all the software afterwards, so it's no big deal16:27
Ammarah, this is the answer I wanted, Thanks @wonderworld :)16:27
wonderworldmain difference is the preinstalled GUI16:27
wonderworldjust watch some youtube videos and see which gui suits your needs mostly16:27
GridCubeAmmar, all the *buntu are actually just "desktops" for the mainbuntu16:27
wonderworldmost popular guis are: unity, KDE, MATE, XFCE, GNOME316:28
GridCubemainbuntu uses the Unity Desktop, xubuntu the xfce desktop, kubuntu kde and lubuntu lxde16:28
AmmarIs there any resources where I can find out more about this "mainbuntu" ?16:28
Ammar@worlderworld: those are desktops, I know that, but are this the only difference between them ? I understand : yes16:28
wonderworldyes, and different preinstalled software. like KDE has another IRC client then Gnome316:29
Ammar@DridCube thanks, I have already read that somewhere,,, but just wondering if this was the only difference16:29
wonderworldbut you can install all the software afterwards16:29
Ammarok, and can anybody tell me how to start development for "those Desktops" ? I mean apps for the desktops16:30
GridCube!tab | Ammar16:30
ubottuAmmar: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.16:30
AmmarGridCube: thanks :)16:31
GridCubeAmmar, :) if you do that that way people will get highlighted and you dont need the @16:31
AmmarGridCube: I just saw that I need to do it, thanks16:32
GridCubeAmmar, if you like some desktop, or program, or what ever, you go to their launchpad page, and see the bugs they have reported make a fix for them and post it in the bug report, thats the best help you can bring to start with16:34
GridCubeAmmar, if you want to develop new applications, you need to learn a language, and choose a toolkit, usual toolkits are gtk and qt16:34
AmmarGridCube: ok that could be a good start, thanks16:35
GridCubei don't know much about programation, but you can join the -devel channels and ask where they need help16:35
GridCubethat way you will learn16:35
GridCube:)16:35
GridCubeP: and we always need more help16:36
Ammarok thanks, I am very much excited about it,,, have a nice day/night and bye bye :)16:36
martianHey folks, I asked about this a while back but no one seemed to have any insight. Video describes the problem with google chrome menu's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlEZW4r9W_Y16:43
baizonmartian: have you tried chromium 23?16:46
baizonimo its not xubuntu releated16:47
martianThe only other system I have to test this on is a windows virtual machine :-/16:47
baizonmartian: try other DE, like gnome :)16:48
martianchromium 23? What's the 23 mean?16:48
baizonmartian: version16:48
martian /smack forehead16:48
martianI haven't. Seems like 22 is in the repos. Seems to do the same.16:49
martianYeah, I'll try out gnome16:50
baizonok16:52
baizonreport back if it works or dont16:52
martianSo can you confirm that you don't have the same issue?16:52
baizonmartian: if you wait a min16:53
baizoni have to install chromium first16:53
xubuntu425just installed xubuntu 12.10 in a netbook and the interface don't work, when i restart the system, it start whithout graphical interface... help!!!16:53
baizonxubuntu425: does it boot into something?16:54
xubuntu425start with terminal... boot from hard disk16:55
xubuntu425there is a string to activate the interface?16:55
xubuntu425or it's a bug?16:55
baizonxubuntu425: which version did you install? the destkop or server version?16:56
baizontry to install lightdm16:56
xubuntu809hi everyone16:56
xubuntu192i'm the user with trubles with graphical interface... please rewrite the answere16:57
xubuntu809There is a bug in live session for 12.10, you can boot your live session adding a few lines to /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:57
xubuntu809"with eeePC"16:58
xubuntu809no sorry i was about to ask some stupid question16:58
baizonmartian: got the same "issue"16:59
xubuntu809oh ok16:59
xubuntu809after the install, will i have to cope with it again ?16:59
xubuntu809i'm currently installing xbuntu from my live usb17:00
xubuntu192i'm installing from usb too with UNEBOOTIN17:00
xubuntu809and got no graphic interface at all ?17:01
xubuntu192i tried ubuntu 12.10 first... but it doesn't work17:01
xubuntu809ok it's a reported bug17:01
xubuntu809yu can still boot it, editing a file with command line tooll vi17:02
xubuntu192now i'm trying xubuntu 12.10 but after the installation when i restart... it start from terminal!!!!17:02
xubuntu809yeah17:02
xubuntu809ok17:02
xubuntu192i can't use terminal!! where is my graphic? eheheh17:02
xubuntu809edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:02
xubuntu192ok17:02
xubuntu809:oO17:02
xubuntu192and then?17:02
xubuntu809gotta do it in root17:02
xubuntu192ok17:03
xubuntu809typein something i'm currently googling for u17:03
xubuntu192oh thanks...17:03
xubuntu192i'm googling too but i can't find the answer17:03
xubuntu809  Live session: 1. On boot push F5 and add to kernel option: text 2. Boot to TTY1 3. Creat /etc/X11/xorg.conf which contains:  Section "Device"    Identifier "Intel GMA3600"    Driver "fbdev" EndSection  4. Save configs 5. Start the LightDM whith command: sudo service lightdm start 6. Enjoy!17:04
xubuntu809ok17:04
xubuntu809I got better17:04
xubuntu809google "bugs launchpad xorg 106903117:05
xubuntu809first anwser is the good one17:05
xubuntu809gotta go. just in case it's bug 1069031 on launchpad17:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1069031 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "intel gma3600: X unable to start" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106903117:07
xubuntu192ok i'm reading17:08
xubuntu192hope will work17:08
xubuntu192if don't work i'll trey xubuntu 12.04 versio17:08
martianbaizon: Just tried it in ubuntu-desktop and same thing. Soooo annoying! Well, off to lunch17:08
baizonmartian: so its a chromium bug, you can report it :)17:09
acuozzoDoes Xubuntu a clean (from CD) installation of Xubuntu come with gnome-disk-utility (a.k.a., "Disks")?18:08
acuozzodamn18:09
acuozzos/Xubuntu//18:09
fernino18:11
ner0xDoes xubuntu have any specific accounting software?18:11
knomener0x, there's some in the repositories, but none is installed by default.18:11
acuozzoOK, thanks ferni.18:12
martianbaizon: mmhmm, so I shall! So does google pull off of the chromium source ya think?18:13
ner0xknome: Any suggestions?18:14
knomener0x, i'm sorry, don't know those well18:15
martianner0x: LibreOffice Calc? Roll your own :)18:16
ner0xknome: No problem.18:16
ner0xmartian: I could but I'd like something that parses the csv I get from the bank.18:16
knomeLO Calc can parse csv18:17
ner0xknome: It can open it, I'd like it to assign it to the appropriate categories for my accountant.18:18
martianner0x: lmgtfy ;) http://www.gnucash.org/18:18
GridCubei used gnucash once or twice18:19
GridCubeits nice and simple18:19
ner0xgnucash may work.18:20
ner0xI was just looking for *opinions* on what people have used.18:21
ner0xNot what they use. :)18:21
GridCubener0x, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accounting18:21
ner0xGridCube++ # helpful for sure.18:21
GridCubethough that page was last updated in 2008, there might be other options now, do some searchs and update the wiki ner0x :D18:22
asarchWhat is the best way to do CPU Frequency Scaling ala Xfce (without evolving any GNOME software)?18:29
asarchsysfsutils doesn't work at all18:29
koegsxfce4-cpufreq-plugin?18:39
martianbaizon: already reported it seems: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=10300918:41
baizongood :(18:41
baizon:)18:41
pressman57hi all, just a quick question. will steam be available to xubuntu users?19:55
pressman57or does it requre unity?19:56
Unit193pressman57: I do not know, but the depends of the package installer itself don't have it as a depends.19:58
baizonpressman57: it will work19:58
baizonyou dont need unity19:58
pressman57baizon: cool. xfce rocks imho19:58
baizonindeed19:58
pressman57thanks. off to download the iso.19:59
baizoniso?19:59
baizonyou mean deb ;)19:59
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puffI'm running xubuntu 11.10, empathy-chat keeps losing its connection and then when it reconnects, gives me a security exception.  Also, every time I reboot, authentication fails until I edit the account settings and retype (the same) password in.20:39
puffI'm running xubuntu 11.10, empathy-chat 3.2.0.1, empathy keeps losing its connection and then when it reconnects to google talk, gives me a security exception.  If I click to connect anyway everything works.  Every time I reboot, authentication fails until I edit the account settings and retype (the same) password in.20:41
puffWhoops, sorry.20:41
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xubuntu313hi22:25
xubuntu313iatlian mod ?22:25
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VercingeToregehi23:47
VercingeToregecan anyone help me?23:48
pleia2!hi23:49
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!23:49
pleia2you can just go ahead and ask your question :)23:49
VercingeToregehi pleia223:49
VercingeToregeI can not complete the installation of xubuntu23:50
VercingeToregethe installer search more so for a long time23:51

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