[01:04] <naxil> dream?
[01:04] <naxil> anyone is here?
[01:04] <unheeding> no
[01:09] <naxil> unheeding.. i have a problem.. i need to set my wifi internal card to hotspot
[01:09] <naxil> can u helpme?
[01:09] <naxil> i have xubuntu12.10
[01:09] <unheeding> i can't sorry
[01:10] <naxil> ok
[01:12] <naxil> unheeding, u know where is Propietary driver on xubuntu?
[01:36] <Unit193> naxil: Software Sources, last tab.
[01:52] <naxil> Unit193, i need to turn my wifi internal card to master/hotspot
[01:52] <naxil> is atheros card and teh driver is ath5
[01:53] <naxil> how to do it?
[01:59] <Unit193> !atheros
[01:59] <ubottu> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:08] <naxil> tnx bye
[02:37] <Cigam> hey there djtf
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[04:37] <c2tarun> hi friends, tab is not working for commands in my xubuntu terminal. Though its working for location/paths.
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[05:59] <c2tarun> hi friends, tab is not working for commands in my xubuntu terminal. Though its working for location/paths.
[06:05] <holstein> http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/1150-terminal-tab-completion-missing-solved/
[06:07] <c2tarun> holstein, I am also facing one more problem, I am not seeing any color schemes in xubuntu terminal. In ubuntu/kubuntu all the executable files are displayed with green, folders with blue, but there is nothing like that here.
[06:09] <c2tarun> can anyone please suggest me a good or better terminal emulator for xubuntu?
[06:14] <nikolam> c2tarun, you don't like the default one, Terminal ?
[06:15] <c2tarun> nikolam, actually I just found out the problem :( I mounted my other partition over /home and that is why .bashrc is missing which is causing all the troubles
[06:15] <c2tarun> I just need a way to bring bashrc back. Is there anyway of copying the file without unmounting home?
[06:16] <nikolam> c2tarun, wel mount the other one to /tmp and copy it
[06:16] <Unit193> Copy from /etc/skel/.bashrc
[06:16] <c2tarun> Unit193, I checked .bashrc is not there as well
[06:17] <c2tarun> ohh sorry that must be hidden :P Its so stupid
[06:17] <c2tarun> Unit193, great thanks :)
[06:18] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[06:18] <nikolam> Or having another user with sudo privileges handy and log in using consoles (ctrl alt f2)
[06:19] <c2tarun> nikolam, thanks for help :) I found .bashrc in /etc/skel
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[11:02] <Zoraktar> I'm having worst luck of getting some ubuntu help... I have tried almost all forums links about Non-pae linux and still not getting any... Last downloaded were Xubuntu 12.04.1 what i was told is for Non-Pae computers... Any suggestions?
[11:03] <Zoraktar> Computer is Hp Compaq nx6110 and it's not having PAE support. At least installer tells me that.
[11:05] <ochosi> hm, strange, 12.04 should support non-pae
[11:05] <ochosi> personally i don't have any non-pae supporting pcs, so i don't have any experience with this
[11:05] <ochosi> have you tried the alternate installer?
[11:07] <Zoraktar> Hmm i'm not pretty sure. I been trying with CD and with USB installer atm but seems it does not just want to try even from USB anymore.
[11:09] <knome> 12.04 has non-pae
[11:09] <ochosi> (knome is my parrot-friend :))
[11:09]  * knome dances the parrot dance
[11:10] <ochosi> this isn't a very lively dance – this parrot is dead!
[11:10] <Zoraktar> Heh. Yeah but still when trying to boot it comes error about Pae. No OS installed and only USB device in with universal USB installer but still getting that error.
[11:10] <knome> ochosi, har har... :))
[11:11] <ochosi> Zoraktar: yes, but as i said, it might be that you need to use the alternate, not the desktop image for that (i'm guessing a bit here though)
[11:11] <Zoraktar> Okies. What to do then?
[11:12] <ochosi> dl the alternate image, create a usb-stick with that and see whether the installation works
[11:13] <Zoraktar> Okies. Trying that. Btw what you think about using Xubuntu at school computers? Is there some law issues or could this just be installed? School is poor and computers cant run even XP well. They asked me about different OS systems what can go net and got some office clone :)
[11:13] <ochosi> yeah, no problem
[11:14] <ochosi> it's quite nice for that imo
[11:14] <Zoraktar> Yeah that's why tryng it. Found 500Mhz laptop with 512mb ram inside. XP were so slow that i werent able to listen music well with that machine.
[11:15] <ochosi> if the performance of xubuntu isn't satisfactory, you can as well try lubuntu, it's supposedly a bit lighter on resources
[11:15] <ochosi> or you can cut down certain things in xubuntu (mostly things that make your life easier though) and get a really light desktop
[11:16] <Zoraktar> Yeah well it needs to have kinda these stuff inside: Flash support, Java support, Shockwave support (as web-browsing only) and Wireless + Printer installing support.
[11:16] <Zoraktar> Ah and ofc some text program what allows you print and make some almost "offical" papers.
[11:19] <ochosi> yeah well, flash is a performance problem on all platforms...
[11:19] <baizon> html5 is a better solution
[11:21] <Zoraktar> What kinda problem? Because this would come only for like stuff like android got nothing like really heavy flash games. Tough could keep as "office" computer that too.
[11:22] <ochosi> it's simply that flash consumes a lot of cpu power, so if you don't have a lot of that, that can cause problems
[11:31] <Zoraktar> Alternative install downloaded. I have only USB stick atm to use. Do i burn image with Power-iso to bootable or do i use universal USB installer?
[11:33] <Yotson> unetbootin +1 ;)
[15:17] <c2tarun> my system is not remembering my brightness settings. How can I do that?
[15:43] <wonderworld> hi, since 12.10 i hve problems with running KDE-apps under xubuntu. after start the window sometimes shows and sometimes doesnt. the process is running but the application window fails to spwan. this happens with kaffeine, k3b, yakuake, konversation, etc
[15:46] <GridCube> havent heard of this before, let me do some research
[15:46] <wonderworld> i can't really reproduce it. it just works sometimes
[15:46] <wonderworld> i'd say i can run run KDE-apps about 3 times out of 10 tries
[15:47] <wonderworld> with 12.04 and before it always worked without any problems at all
[15:49] <GridCube> wonderworld, try launching from a terminal and see if you get a warning like this: QGtkstyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme
[15:50] <wonderworld> nope, i dont. I am getting this:
[15:50] <wonderworld> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[15:50] <wonderworld> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[15:50] <wonderworld> but i am getting this no matter if it wokrs or not
[15:52] <GridCube> mmhm, try a few times till you get one that doesnt work
[15:52] <wonderworld> ok, let me try
[15:55] <wonderworld> haha testing effect
[15:55] <wonderworld> works now. strange
[15:55] <GridCube> XD
[15:55] <wonderworld> maybe i need to reboot first. i think something is not properly initialized
[15:55] <GridCube> well
[15:55] <wonderworld> and some app does it, if i successfully start it
[15:58] <GridCube> wonderworld, maybe this will point you to where to look at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702493
[15:58] <ubottu> bugzilla.redhat.com bug 702493 in qt "Qt Applications don't pick up gtk theme" [Medium,New]
[15:59] <wonderworld> hey, thanks a lot, i'll have a look.
[15:59] <wonderworld> can't reboot right now, i'll try later
[15:59] <wonderworld> thanks for being helpful :)
[15:59] <GridCube> wonderworld, i would also suggest you to report this bug anyway once you have found some clues
[16:00] <wonderworld> yes i will
[16:00] <GridCube> :) also this might help aswel: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=940213
[16:07] <wonderworld> ok, i guess it's neither of the two bugs. *if* the app starts, it works just fine. themed and with icons
[16:07] <wonderworld> i'll reboot now. be back in a minute...
[16:11] <wonderworld> ok back
[16:11] <wonderworld> very strange. it seems to work now.
[16:11] <wonderworld> it didn't 2 days ago
[16:11] <wonderworld> maybe some update fixed it
[16:12] <wonderworld> sorry for wasting your time
[16:22] <Ammar> Hi, can anybody tell me where to find the difference between *ubuntu-distros ? I mean a real comperance, I am a developer coming from windows, and I am already fed up with it, and want to change...
[16:23] <Ammar> I am totally in Linux since almost 1 year, but was just working with Server-versions, so I know the meaning of so many things, but still need help...
[16:24] <bpuzzled> Ammar: essentially it comes down to what packages are pre-installed.
[16:24] <bpuzzled> Ammar: and that depends on their target audience.
[16:25] <Ammar> I am student of software engineer, but working also as Android Developer, and have experience in that, so which one would suite me ?
[16:25] <Ammar> I have searched online of course, and only found non-detailed compare
[16:26] <bpuzzled> again, ultimately they're all the same -- just have different preinstalled software.  xubuntu is a fine choice.  it just comes down to preference.
[16:26] <wonderworld> Ammar: basicly they are all the same with slightly different preinstalled software
[16:26] <GridCube> wonderworld, :) thats nice to hear, maybe something else was off, keep your eyes open :D
[16:27] <wonderworld> you can install all the software afterwards, so it's no big deal
[16:27] <Ammar> ah, this is the answer I wanted, Thanks @wonderworld :)
[16:27] <wonderworld> main difference is the preinstalled GUI
[16:27] <wonderworld> just watch some youtube videos and see which gui suits your needs mostly
[16:27] <GridCube> Ammar, all the *buntu are actually just "desktops" for the mainbuntu
[16:28] <wonderworld> most popular guis are: unity, KDE, MATE, XFCE, GNOME3
[16:28] <GridCube> mainbuntu uses the Unity Desktop, xubuntu the xfce desktop, kubuntu kde and lubuntu lxde
[16:28] <Ammar> Is there any resources where I can find out more about this "mainbuntu" ?
[16:28] <Ammar> @worlderworld: those are desktops, I know that, but are this the only difference between them ? I understand : yes
[16:29] <wonderworld> yes, and different preinstalled software. like KDE has another IRC client then Gnome3
[16:29] <Ammar> @DridCube thanks, I have already read that somewhere,,, but just wondering if this was the only difference
[16:29] <wonderworld> but you can install all the software afterwards
[16:30] <Ammar> ok, and can anybody tell me how to start development for "those Desktops" ? I mean apps for the desktops
[16:30] <GridCube> !tab | Ammar
[16:30] <ubottu> Ammar: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:31] <Ammar> GridCube: thanks :)
[16:31] <GridCube> Ammar, :) if you do that that way people will get highlighted and you dont need the @
[16:32] <Ammar> GridCube: I just saw that I need to do it, thanks
[16:34] <GridCube> Ammar, if you like some desktop, or program, or what ever, you go to their launchpad page, and see the bugs they have reported make a fix for them and post it in the bug report, thats the best help you can bring to start with
[16:34] <GridCube> Ammar, if you want to develop new applications, you need to learn a language, and choose a toolkit, usual toolkits are gtk and qt
[16:35] <Ammar> GridCube: ok that could be a good start, thanks
[16:35] <GridCube> i don't know much about programation, but you can join the -devel channels and ask where they need help
[16:35] <GridCube> that way you will learn
[16:35] <GridCube> :)
[16:36] <GridCube> P: and we always need more help
[16:36] <Ammar> ok thanks, I am very much excited about it,,, have a nice day/night and bye bye :)
[16:43] <martian> Hey folks, I asked about this a while back but no one seemed to have any insight. Video describes the problem with google chrome menu's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlEZW4r9W_Y
[16:46] <baizon> martian: have you tried chromium 23?
[16:47] <baizon> imo its not xubuntu releated
[16:47] <martian> The only other system I have to test this on is a windows virtual machine :-/
[16:48] <baizon> martian: try other DE, like gnome :)
[16:48] <martian> chromium 23? What's the 23 mean?
[16:48] <baizon> martian: version
[16:48] <martian>  /smack forehead
[16:49] <martian> I haven't. Seems like 22 is in the repos. Seems to do the same.
[16:50] <martian> Yeah, I'll try out gnome
[16:52] <baizon> ok
[16:52] <baizon> report back if it works or dont
[16:52] <martian> So can you confirm that you don't have the same issue?
[16:53] <baizon> martian: if you wait a min
[16:53] <baizon> i have to install chromium first
[16:53] <xubuntu425> just installed xubuntu 12.10 in a netbook and the interface don't work, when i restart the system, it start whithout graphical interface... help!!!
[16:54] <baizon> xubuntu425: does it boot into something?
[16:55] <xubuntu425> start with terminal... boot from hard disk
[16:55] <xubuntu425> there is a string to activate the interface?
[16:55] <xubuntu425> or it's a bug?
[16:56] <baizon> xubuntu425: which version did you install? the destkop or server version?
[16:56] <baizon> try to install lightdm
[16:56] <xubuntu809> hi everyone
[16:57] <xubuntu192> i'm the user with trubles with graphical interface... please rewrite the answere
[16:57] <xubuntu809> There is a bug in live session for 12.10, you can boot your live session adding a few lines to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:58] <xubuntu809> "with eeePC"
[16:58] <xubuntu809> no sorry i was about to ask some stupid question
[16:59] <baizon> martian: got the same "issue"
[16:59] <xubuntu809> oh ok
[16:59] <xubuntu809> after the install, will i have to cope with it again ?
[17:00] <xubuntu809> i'm currently installing xbuntu from my live usb
[17:00] <xubuntu192> i'm installing from usb too with UNEBOOTIN
[17:01] <xubuntu809> and got no graphic interface at all ?
[17:01] <xubuntu192> i tried ubuntu 12.10 first... but it doesn't work
[17:01] <xubuntu809> ok it's a reported bug
[17:02] <xubuntu809> yu can still boot it, editing a file with command line tooll vi
[17:02] <xubuntu192> now i'm trying xubuntu 12.10 but after the installation when i restart... it start from terminal!!!!
[17:02] <xubuntu809> yeah
[17:02] <xubuntu809> ok
[17:02] <xubuntu192> i can't use terminal!! where is my graphic? eheheh
[17:02] <xubuntu809> edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:02] <xubuntu192> ok
[17:02] <xubuntu809> :oO
[17:02] <xubuntu192> and then?
[17:02] <xubuntu809> gotta do it in root
[17:03] <xubuntu192> ok
[17:03] <xubuntu809> typein something i'm currently googling for u
[17:03] <xubuntu192> oh thanks...
[17:03] <xubuntu192> i'm googling too but i can't find the answer
[17:04] <xubuntu809>   Live session: 1. On boot push F5 and add to kernel option: text 2. Boot to TTY1 3. Creat /etc/X11/xorg.conf which contains:  Section "Device"    Identifier "Intel GMA3600"    Driver "fbdev" EndSection  4. Save configs 5. Start the LightDM whith command: sudo service lightdm start 6. Enjoy!
[17:04] <xubuntu809> ok
[17:04] <xubuntu809> I got better
[17:05] <xubuntu809> google "bugs launchpad xorg 1069031
[17:05] <xubuntu809> first anwser is the good one
[17:07] <xubuntu809> gotta go. just in case it's bug 1069031 on launchpad
[17:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1069031 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "intel gma3600: X unable to start" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069031
[17:08] <xubuntu192> ok i'm reading
[17:08] <xubuntu192> hope will work
[17:08] <xubuntu192> if don't work i'll trey xubuntu 12.04 versio
[17:08] <martian> baizon: Just tried it in ubuntu-desktop and same thing. Soooo annoying! Well, off to lunch
[17:09] <baizon> martian: so its a chromium bug, you can report it :)
[18:08] <acuozzo> Does Xubuntu a clean (from CD) installation of Xubuntu come with gnome-disk-utility (a.k.a., "Disks")?
[18:09] <acuozzo> damn
[18:09] <acuozzo> s/Xubuntu//
[18:11] <ferni> no
[18:11] <ner0x> Does xubuntu have any specific accounting software?
[18:11] <knome> ner0x, there's some in the repositories, but none is installed by default.
[18:12] <acuozzo> OK, thanks ferni.
[18:13] <martian> baizon: mmhmm, so I shall! So does google pull off of the chromium source ya think?
[18:14] <ner0x> knome: Any suggestions?
[18:15] <knome> ner0x, i'm sorry, don't know those well
[18:16] <martian> ner0x: LibreOffice Calc? Roll your own :)
[18:16] <ner0x> knome: No problem.
[18:16] <ner0x> martian: I could but I'd like something that parses the csv I get from the bank.
[18:17] <knome> LO Calc can parse csv
[18:18] <ner0x> knome: It can open it, I'd like it to assign it to the appropriate categories for my accountant.
[18:18] <martian> ner0x: lmgtfy ;) http://www.gnucash.org/
[18:19] <GridCube> i used gnucash once or twice
[18:19] <GridCube> its nice and simple
[18:20] <ner0x> gnucash may work.
[18:21] <ner0x> I was just looking for *opinions* on what people have used.
[18:21] <ner0x> Not what they use. :)
[18:21] <GridCube> ner0x, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accounting
[18:21] <ner0x> GridCube++ # helpful for sure.
[18:22] <GridCube> though that page was last updated in 2008, there might be other options now, do some searchs and update the wiki ner0x :D
[18:29] <asarch> What is the best way to do CPU Frequency Scaling ala Xfce (without evolving any GNOME software)?
[18:29] <asarch> sysfsutils doesn't work at all
[18:39] <koegs> xfce4-cpufreq-plugin?
[18:41] <martian> baizon: already reported it seems: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=103009
[18:41] <baizon> good :(
[18:41] <baizon> :)
[19:55] <pressman57> hi all, just a quick question. will steam be available to xubuntu users?
[19:56] <pressman57> or does it requre unity?
[19:58] <Unit193> pressman57: I do not know, but the depends of the package installer itself don't have it as a depends.
[19:58] <baizon> pressman57: it will work
[19:58] <baizon> you dont need unity
[19:58] <pressman57> baizon: cool. xfce rocks imho
[19:58] <baizon> indeed
[19:59] <pressman57> thanks. off to download the iso.
[19:59] <baizon> iso?
[19:59] <baizon> you mean deb ;)
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[20:39] <puff> I'm running xubuntu 11.10, empathy-chat keeps losing its connection and then when it reconnects, gives me a security exception.  Also, every time I reboot, authentication fails until I edit the account settings and retype (the same) password in.
[20:41] <puff> I'm running xubuntu 11.10, empathy-chat 3.2.0.1, empathy keeps losing its connection and then when it reconnects to google talk, gives me a security exception.  If I click to connect anyway everything works.  Every time I reboot, authentication fails until I edit the account settings and retype (the same) password in.
[20:41] <puff> Whoops, sorry.
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[22:25] <xubuntu313> hi
[22:25] <xubuntu313> iatlian mod ?
[22:25] <knome> !it | xubuntu313
[22:25] <ubottu> xubuntu313: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[22:26] <xubuntu313> tmx
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[23:47] <VercingeTorege> hi
[23:48] <VercingeTorege> can anyone help me?
[23:49] <pleia2> !hi
[23:49] <ubottu> Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[23:49] <pleia2> you can just go ahead and ask your question :)
[23:49] <VercingeTorege> hi pleia2
[23:50] <VercingeTorege> I can not complete the installation of xubuntu
[23:51] <VercingeTorege> the installer search more so for a long time