[01:03] <apachelogger> !find Xlib-xcb.h
[01:03] <apachelogger> ubottu: thank you :P
[01:18] <sreich> hm, well that's a misleading statement ;p
[01:51] <apachelogger> sreich: everything is misleading with you
[01:51] <sreich> pssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[10:35] <ScottK> Sigh.
[10:36] <ScottK> bug 1040259 means a lot of stuff is screwed up.
[10:39] <Tm_T> -ab
[10:55] <Riddell> ScottK: screwed up so it doesn't compile or does it need a recompile?
[11:19] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1076943] package libqt4-declarative 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2 failed to install/upgrade: failed in write o... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1076943 (by Liam P Boyle)
[11:54] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1076964] plasma-desktop freezes with skype launcher and Icons-Only Task Manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1076964 (by Manuel López-Ibáñez)
[12:17] <yofel__> ScottK: could you please accept skanlite in quantal-proposed when you have the time? It's a rebuild to get the translations back (bug 1076106)
[12:21] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1076943] package libqt4-declarative 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2 failed to install/upgrade: failed in write o... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1076943 (by Liam P Boyle)
[12:59] <yofel__> !testers
[12:59] <yofel__> for anyone that's still on precise: 4.9.3 finally finished building in staging if someone can test it
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:06] <Tm_T> I will install 4.9.3 packages today when work week is over
[13:06] <Tm_T> to 12.10
[13:20] <shadeslayer> yofel_: will test later this evening
[13:52] <ScottK> Riddell: They made a new API and such so apparently KDE apps don't work with Indicators in Gnome/Unity.
[13:54] <ScottK> yofel__: Doing.
[13:55] <ScottK> yofel__: Bug should have a test case and such.  Please fix.
[13:56] <ScottK> bug 1076106
[13:56] <jussi> Hrm, ScottK Riddell et al, can we try reschedule the CC catchup for KC? It currently falls on my birthday...
[13:56] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1076964] plasma-desktop freezes with skype launcher and Icons-Only Task Manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1076964 (by Manuel López-Ibáñez)
[13:56] <ScottK> Nevermind on that last bit.  
[13:58] <Riddell> jussi: mm wasn't that last month?
[13:58] <jussi> Riddell: no, its for the R cycle, so next year, april
[13:59] <jussi> see the mail to the ubuntu council teams list
[13:59] <jussi> Riddell: just forwarded to you for easy finiding :D
[14:00] <Riddell> jussi: cor they're planning ahead
[14:00] <Riddell> well feel free to ask them to reschedule, I've no idea what I'm doing on that day
[14:03] <jussi> ok :D
[14:05] <yofel__> thanks ScottK 
[14:06] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Muon Updater feature request: Pause button for downloads.  I sitting here working off of a tethered cel phone and am installing a big set of updates.  Because I'm bandwidth constrained, there have been a few times when it would have been nice to be able to pause the update download so other stuff would be faster.
[14:08] <jussi> ScottK: JontheEchidna BIG plus on this one. 
[14:11] <ScottK> Run in fear.
[14:11]  * ScottK is about to do Perl.
[14:11] <jussi> hehe
[14:11]  * jussi hides from the monster ScottK is about to create
[14:14] <ScottK> Alert canceled.
[14:14] <ScottK> It turns out to be a feature, not a bug, so no Perl changes needed.
[14:31] <Riddell> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/8169377493  Kubuntu people at UDS!
[14:34] <shadeslayer> :D
[14:39] <BluesKaj> no names or captions 
[14:41] <BluesKaj> anyway 13.04  X server is broken, initramfs fails
[14:53] <yofel__> hm, I recognise Rohan, jr, alex and aurelien on that pic, don't think I've met the rest yet
[15:14] <ScottK> The one that looks like his badge is resting on jr's head is me.
[15:14] <ScottK> Tm_T is between me and agateau.
[15:15] <ScottK> The one I'm giving rabbit ears is Quintasan_.
[15:15] <ScottK> SteveRiley is the other one giving him rabbit ears.
[15:15] <ScottK> I don't know who the guy on the end is.
[15:21] <Tm_T> Riddell: was that the "funny face" picture?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ScottK, which pic ?
[15:25] <ScottK> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/8169377493
[15:26] <Tm_T> this is prolly the least insane picture of me https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4ms8nAQRspI/UJbd-DCe3fI/AAAAAAAAF-k/R8i47ii5tHw/s903/DSC_0369.JPG
[15:26] <BluesKaj> I know very few of you by your given names 
[15:28] <Tm_T> I'm getting highly annoyed with Unity desktop
[15:29] <yofel__> thanks ScottK  :D
[16:10] <agateau> iirc, the guy on the end is Michael Hasselmann, developer of the Maliit virtual keyboard
[16:23] <afiestas> SteveRiley: ping
[16:36] <apachelogger> ScottK: were the badges so heavy? :P
[16:39] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: I'm unsure if APT has the capabilities to pause downloads and still retain the connection to the archive server/mirror...
[16:40] <JontheEchidna> At any rate, cancelling the transaction and starting it again will in effect do the same thing, since APT keeps the archives it has downloaded, as well as partial archives
[17:14] <BluesKaj> ...BBL
[18:49] <shadeslayer> yofel_: from the looks of it, 4.9.3 for precise is still building : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+builds?build_state=pending
[18:50] <yofel_> shadeslayer: looks like launchpad doesn't auto-cancel superseded builds o.O
[18:50] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:50] <yofel_> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages?batch=200 shows all built
[18:51] <shadeslayer> durrr ... I just relinquished command of the Futurama machine to my cousin, can't watch Futurama now
[18:52] <shadeslayer> yofel: adding and upgrading in a moment, will let you know :)
[18:52] <yofel> thanks
[18:53]  * yofel filed bug 1077116 in hope for some insight
[19:04] <yofel> lol
[19:04] <yofel> nepomuk managed to break apt-btrfs-snapshot
[19:04] <yofel> http://paste.kde.org/600890
[19:05] <yofel> we need a strigi blacklist :/
[19:07] <shadeslayer> good thing strigi is gone then eh?
[19:07] <yofel> yeah
[19:08] <yofel> unless the replacement does the same thing ^^
[19:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: upgrade went fin
[19:22] <shadeslayer> *fine
[19:22] <shadeslayer> lemme logout to check
[19:25] <shadeslayer> yofel: looks good
[19:26] <yofel> nice
[19:27] <shadeslayer> cya
[19:27] <BluesKaj> yofel, 13.04 is still broken here , just a differnt error message now , "Xinit: connection to X server lost."
[19:32] <yofel> fun, I'm trying not to reboot currently ^^
[19:33] <yofel> apachelogger: any idea what could've fixed kde bug 309045?
[19:36] <apachelogger> yofel: yeah, I did :P
[19:37] <apachelogger> http://commits.kde.org/kmix/d1344b63ded3b53dff44794f8e17e67ca530de9e
[19:37] <yofel> is that backportable to 4.9?
[19:38] <apachelogger> though that change is incomplete for some cases with multiple devices and changing the master mixer in which case it would not correctly update all the appearances
[19:38] <apachelogger> the entire fix however required more invasive changes
[19:38] <apachelogger> so no, I'd not say it is backportable
[19:38] <yofel> ok
[19:38] <apachelogger> not from an upstream POV at least
[19:42] <apachelogger> http://commits.kde.org/kmix/5c57272add398124256cd4f8240b219db3e5128d and e6f431536265f376a7ced22fdeaf31f208d94a1a are the follow ups containing a general change to more dynamic behavior
[19:43] <apachelogger> yofel: thinking about it one could probably do it by building ontop of my original fix and get a relatively non-invasive patch
[19:44] <apachelogger> actually IIRC it would be sufficient to simply recreate the internal objects 
[19:44] <apachelogger> i.e. move the recreating from entire KSNI to only members of KSNI
[19:44] <apachelogger> not sure whether that's worth the effort though
[19:45]  * apachelogger leaves it for yofel to decide
[19:46] <apachelogger> also I would rather target LTS
[19:49] <yofel> well, I've never touched anything KSNI related so I'm not going to do anything there now :/
[19:50] <yofel> I'll open a bug later so I have somewhere to put the links
[19:54] <Tm_T> I wanted to try and see if Unity desktop is worth using currently
[19:56] <Tm_T> I think I learned my lesson, KDE ->
[19:57] <yofel> now that's fun. Thanks to nepmoukfilewatch I can't install anything anymore on my eeePC because it crashes apt-btrfs-snapshot
[19:58]  * yofel turnes nepomuk off again
[20:06] <apachelogger> vHanda: ^
[20:10] <yofel> http://paste.kde.org/600944 as apt-btrfs-snapshot temporarily mounts the main rootfs and nepomuk immediately tries the check the files in there locking the mountpoint
[20:12] <apachelogger> why does nepmuk watch /tmp? Oo
[20:14] <Tm_T> user configuration gone bad?
[20:14] <yofel> dunno
[20:15] <apachelogger> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/09/plasma-desktopB32746.png
[20:16]  * apachelogger wanted to communicate something and forgot what it was
[20:16] <yofel> hm...
[20:16] <apachelogger> ah yes
[20:16] <apachelogger> why is that kcm called desktop search?
[20:16] <apachelogger> what is a desktop search even?
[20:16] <apachelogger> does this search my desktop? because on my desktop are exactly zero files
[20:24] <apachelogger> anyone feeling artistic and wants to create a mockup for an 'about kubuntu' dialog?
[20:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what happens when I reboot while muon is installing stuff?
[20:26] <rbelem> hey guys
[20:27] <yofel> hi rbelem
[20:27] <rbelem> i need some help to translate dantti's wife letter
[20:27] <rbelem> http://notes.kde.org/dantti-letter-en
[20:40] <rbelem> afiestas, ^
[21:12] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: muon inhibits reboot via powerdevil
[22:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you thought of everything, eh? :S
[22:55] <JontheEchidna> :P