| almoxarife | is it possible to ignore 'joins' in konversation? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| OerHeks | Settings -> Configure Konversation; in the left sidebar, Behavior -> Chat Window; Hide Join/Part/Nick events | 00:09 |
| almoxarife | OerHeks: thanks for the info, i guess i did not really look for my own self | 00:13 |
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| OerHeks | below that is a nice one, "except for watched nicks and active nicks.." | 00:14 |
| almoxarife | OerHeks: saw it, i dont have any to watch, yet :) | 00:14 |
| OerHeks | So you can see active members leave, if i read it correct. | 00:14 |
| almoxarife | i am in the middle of updating to kde 4.9.3 from 4.9.2 , hoping for the best | 00:16 |
| OerHeks | Let us know, almoxarife | 00:17 |
| almoxarife | OerHeks: its opensuse, i am assuming its a safe move | 00:18 |
| almoxarife | assuming :) | 00:18 |
| OerHeks | You may. I think the KDE family is closer than Gnome. | 00:19 |
| dundee | Greetings All. I am a new comer to KDE/Kubuntu. I have upgraded to KDE 4.9.3 and now when I use Krunner and press enter, the app is not launching as usual. | 00:19 |
| dundee | I have to click, anyone experiencing the same problem? | 00:19 |
| OerHeks | I am still @ 4.9.2 | 00:20 |
| almoxarife | dundee: i am about to find out, updating now | 00:20 |
| almoxarife | dundee: can you downgrade krunner? | 00:21 |
| dundee | almoxarife: Thanks for responding. I don't know how to downgrade. | 00:21 |
| almoxarife | dundee: what distro you use? | 00:22 |
| dundee | I am using Kubuntu | 00:22 |
| almoxarife | dundee: did you update via a ppa addition? | 00:23 |
| dundee | Almoxarife: Yes I used a ppa | 00:26 |
| dundee | Almoxarife: I think its backport | 00:26 |
| OerHeks | dundee, you can use ppa-purge to restore 4.9.2 , but that will downgrade all packages, not onlu krunner. | 00:27 |
| OerHeks | c/only | 00:27 |
| SIR_Taco_ | you likely can't just downgrade krunner (for dependency reasons) | 00:28 |
| dundee | Ok I see. I did it because on the website it says you should upgrade if you are running 4.9.2 or earlier. | 00:30 |
| dundee | I have seen may bug fixes so I thought it would be a good thing to upgrade. | 00:31 |
| almoxarife | dundee: if it is a kde issue i will tell you in a sec, i am updating to 9.3 now in opensuse, tell you in a few min | 00:31 |
| dundee | almoxarife: Ok . | 00:32 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: I'm in the process of doing the same on this computer... didn't run into the problem on my other computer | 00:32 |
| almoxarife | SIR_Taco_: which distro? | 00:34 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: Kubuntu 12.10 | 00:35 |
| dundee | yes Kubuntu 12.10 | 00:36 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: So its not a KDE issue, its a distro issue? | 00:38 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: not sure yet, give me about 10 mins to finish getting this update :P | 00:39 |
| SIR_Taco_ | well... more like 5 mins | 00:39 |
| almoxarife | dundee: worked here fine, searched krunner, app showed, hit return, app started | 00:40 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: you have logged out and back in after updating? | 00:42 |
| dundee | I have this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu and this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu in my software sources. | 00:43 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Yes I did that many times | 00:43 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Did you use backports ppa to upgrade? | 00:43 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: no, I'm using regular old updates ppa ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa | 00:48 |
| SIR_Taco_ | 12.10 shouldn't exactly have backports for a while | 00:49 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Oh that's probably causing the problem. | 00:50 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Can I purge the backports? | 00:50 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Will the ppa-purge command work? | 00:51 |
| chefkoch24143 | hallo | 00:52 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: you shouldn't be getting updates from the backports. 13.04 is still in planning and very very very early testing phase. There are no packages in 12.10 backports (as far as I know) | 00:52 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: brb, going to logout and back in and see if I run into your problem | 00:53 |
| almoxarife | update to 9.3 went over well, so far nothing obviously wrong | 00:55 |
| OerHeks | dundee, sure, install ppa-purge, and use " sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>" | 00:56 |
| dundee | almoxarife: I will try and purge the backports now. | 00:56 |
| almoxarife | dundee: you sure about that move? is krunner the only issue? | 00:57 |
| almoxarife | dundee: purge has a habit of cause bad things | 00:57 |
| almoxarife | causing | 00:57 |
| dundee | almoxarife: Well so far krunner is the only problem that I have seen. | 00:58 |
| almoxarife | dundee: try to install from 'sources' , back to 4.9.2, i think its 'sources' in synaptic | 00:59 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: interesting.... enter/return doesn't select the proposed program | 00:59 |
| almoxarife | a ubuntu/kubuntu bug? | 01:00 |
| almoxarife | can one apt-get a specific version from a selection(repos)? | 01:01 |
| SIR_Taco_ | unless you type the full program name. ie: you can't type 'kons' and see 'Konsole' in the list, and just hit enter/return (as you used to). Also, even typing the full name of the program (like 'konsole') refuses to work | 01:02 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: you can install specific .deb files | 01:02 |
| almoxarife | SIR_Taco_: so purge krunner and install specific 'krunner' version? 4.9.2? | 01:03 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco_: You are experiencing the problem now? | 01:05 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: no, as much as KDE is quite modular having and old Krunner with a new KDE will likely not work and/or crash and burn | 01:05 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: yes | 01:05 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: if you hit the up arrow (which cycles through history), then down arrow, it will let you select the program with enter | 01:05 |
| almoxarife | SIR_Taco_: you the original? | 01:06 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: depends on what you're talking about I guess haha | 01:07 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: but yes, that is a bug and need to be fixed. Have you already submitted a bug? | 01:08 |
| almoxarife | slash-dot ? | 01:08 |
| dundee | almoxarife, SIR_Taco_: I guess its a bug. Where do I do that? | 01:09 |
| dundee | Can I report it here: https://bugs.kde.org/ | 01:10 |
| almoxarife | dundee: thats the thing, installs via ppa are discouraged i believe, but your link cant hurt | 01:10 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: haha, no, not that's a different Taco that works for them | 01:11 |
| almoxarife | SIR_Taco_: got you | 01:11 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: yes, report it there | 01:11 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Ok I will. | 01:12 |
| dundee | almoxarife, SIR_Taco_: Thanks guys. | 01:12 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: not a problem | 01:12 |
| almoxarife | dundee: good luck with the bug | 01:13 |
| OerHeks | :-) | 01:13 |
| dundee | almoxarife, OerHeks: OK | 01:13 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: think cmdr_taco was the slashdot guy :P | 01:14 |
| almoxarife | SIR_Taco_: thats it, wrong nick | 01:15 |
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| SIR_Taco_ | that's an odd bug | 01:19 |
| almoxarife | personally i would just try reverting the app to 4.9.2 , go for broke | 01:21 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: it will either not work, or break badly if you were to force it | 01:21 |
| OerHeks | I wouldn't recommend it too, if krunner gets a update, you won'tknow it has been solved too. | 01:23 |
| SIR_Taco_ | dundee: when you finish your bug report, give me the link so I can confirm it for you | 01:26 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Ok. | 01:27 |
| almoxarife | i stand corrected, i didnt find the package for 'krunner' in opensuse repos, so i assume its part of some other package | 01:28 |
| OerHeks | plasma-runner-installer | 01:32 |
| almoxarife | OerHeks: plasma-runner is the pop-up ? | 01:33 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: yes | 01:34 |
| almoxarife | kdebase4-workspace <-- krunner? | 01:35 |
| almoxarife | not going to down grade that one sparky | 01:35 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309787 | 01:36 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 309787 in general "Krunner does not execute program when press ENTER" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 01:36 |
| SIR_Taco_ | almoxarife: which is why I advised against it :P | 01:36 |
| almoxarife | SIR_Taco_: i grovelled already, i am grovelled out | 01:37 |
| SIR_Taco_ | no need | 01:37 |
| almoxarife | that bug is specific to ubuntu, or the ppa, i cant replicate it in opensuse | 01:38 |
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| SIR_Taco_ | seems I've completely forgot my bugs.kde.org password... | 01:47 |
| SIR_Taco_ | maybe I'm missing it, but I can't seem to find a 'reset password' option | 01:51 |
| OerHeks | SIR press login first, then Forgot password appears below the button | 01:52 |
| OerHeks | not handy | 01:52 |
| SIR_Taco_ | OerHeks: darrr... yea didn't see that for some reason :) | 01:53 |
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| SIR_Taco_ | seems I locked my ip out for a bit after guessing wrong :/ | 01:57 |
| SIR_Taco_ | at least I reset my password | 01:58 |
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| Robtygart | I messed up typing my email when I was trying to register my nick. Is that a problem? | 02:06 |
| OerHeks | Robtygart, yes, now you cannot apply the confirmation email. | 02:06 |
| OerHeks | Robtygart, join #freenode to solve it. | 02:06 |
| Robtygart | cool thanks | 02:07 |
| OerHeks | yw | 02:07 |
| nicekiwi_ | is it possible to customise indervidual panels in KDE? | 02:13 |
| xixor | sup | 02:17 |
| xixor | nicekiwi_: yes.. of course. Each panel is it's own panel, to be configured as the great creator in the sky sees fit | 02:17 |
| nicekiwi_ | xixor, really? Even the look and feel of them? Colours etc? | 02:21 |
| xixor | nicekiwi_: oh, colors.. not sure aboot that, eh | 02:21 |
| nicekiwi_ | xixor, yeah.. | 02:24 |
| xixor | hm.... I dunno | 02:24 |
| nicekiwi_ | I feel the answer is no :/ | 02:25 |
| xixor | yeah, I don't think so | 02:25 |
| xixor | maybe | 02:25 |
| xixor | I don't know | 02:25 |
| xixor | je suis a n000b | 02:25 |
| ozzzy | how do I install a .deb that's local on my hard drive | 02:25 |
| xixor | dpkg -i midgetporno.deb | 02:25 |
| OerHeks | nicekiwi_, maybe this page is a start>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu | 02:26 |
| nicekiwi_ | OerHeks, no seems like the simplist answer | 02:27 |
| jedihawk | kubuntu fresh install, kernel panic upon boot: http://dropcanvas.com/oje4f | 02:30 |
| jedihawk | I think this system is cursed. | 02:33 |
| jedihawk | There are cursed items in the world. This system may be one of them. | 02:33 |
| nicekiwi_ | jedihawk, did ur install disk validate checksum? | 02:34 |
| OerHeks | jedihawk, i have a wild guess, did you enable VT in your bios, that is a memory protection in the CPU | 02:34 |
| jedihawk | nicekiwi_: Yes. I made sure of that, because every USB installer I've made thus far as failed. | 02:34 |
| nicekiwi_ | jedihawk, eeks. How did you create the USB installers? | 02:34 |
| jedihawk | OerHeks: Where do I find this setting? | 02:34 |
| OerHeks | jedihawk, depends on your bios , example > http://www.sysprobs.com/disable-enable-virtualization-technology-bios | 02:35 |
| OerHeks | CPU features, i think | 02:36 |
| jedihawk | nicekiwi_: Linux Live USB Creator (linuxliveusb.com), Universal USB Installer (pendrivelinux.com), and UNetbootin (http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/). | 02:37 |
| jedihawk | OerHeks: Secure Virtual Machine Mode? | 02:40 |
| nicekiwi_ | jedihawk, ive has major corruption issues with anything except the "Startup Disk Creator" that comes with Ubuntu. Better to use that | 02:40 |
| OerHeks | jedihawk, yes, Intel has a different name for it than AMD | 02:40 |
| jedihawk | nicekiwi_: this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick links to http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download, which I've already tried (several times). | 02:42 |
| nicekiwi_ | jedihawk, like I said.. | 02:42 |
| OerHeks | and make sure your HDD controller is set to AHCI, not ide-mode | 02:43 |
| jedihawk | OerHeks: Maybe that's the issue. It was set to IDE. I've changed it to AHCI for both sets of ports. Rebooting now... | 02:45 |
| OerHeks | :-) | 02:46 |
| ozzzy | well.... all the dependencies are there... ./configure runs perfect... but make fails | 02:47 |
| jedihawk | can't find a bood device now. :-( | 02:47 |
| SIR_Taco | there we go, back on bugs.kde.org :) | 02:47 |
| ozzzy | god I love this crap | 02:47 |
| OerHeks | jedihawk, oke, then you have to do a install, for the last time i hope. | 02:47 |
| OerHeks | i hope you don't have xp on that drive too. | 02:48 |
| OerHeks | it won't work anymore after changing to AHCI. | 02:48 |
| jedihawk | OerHeks: nope, linux only. | 02:49 |
| jedihawk | had to change the boot order, found the proper hard drive to boot up on. same result, kernel panic. | 02:50 |
| jedihawk | the strange thing is that I've been running Ubuntu on this hardware for the last five or six years without issue. then I did an upgrade, the system wouldn't boot, so I decided to start fresh. | 02:50 |
| jedihawk | ...the curse of the perfectly-running linux system... | 02:51 |
| jedihawk | ...no longer running at all. it's sad when my WinXP machine is more stable than my linux machine. | 02:51 |
| xixor | my windows xp, vista, windows 7, and now, windows 8 machines have all been rock solid stable | 02:52 |
| jedihawk | xixor: yeah. almost makes me want to stop using linux. almost. | 02:53 |
| xixor | all operating systems suck | 02:53 |
| xixor | some just suck a little bit less at certain things than others | 02:53 |
| jedihawk | xixor: yeah. and this one seems to be cursed as well! | 02:54 |
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| xixor | why wouldn't the ubuntu s ystem boot on startup after the upgrade? | 02:55 |
| OerHeks | most commen issue: videodriver. | 02:56 |
| jedihawk | xixor: don't know. the screen was blank (power-saving off) and I couldn't switch to any virtual terminals. | 02:56 |
| xixor | this was a fresh install, or an upgrade? | 02:56 |
| jedihawk | couldn't SSH in to it either. also no hard drive activity. | 02:56 |
| jedihawk | this was back after I did the upgrade. | 02:57 |
| xixor | OS upgrades... never been a fan. On mac, linux, or windows... they're always a crapshoot. | 02:57 |
| OerHeks | it makes me wonder, working fine with IDE-mode .. | 02:57 |
| xixor | I back my shit up, double-plus good, and re-install fresh | 02:59 |
| jedihawk | xixor: good policy. | 02:59 |
| xixor | yep | 03:00 |
| jedihawk | I guess I'll need to buy a new machine. maybe I can re-use my existing hard drives. | 03:00 |
| xixor | hm.. | 03:00 |
| xixor | maybe try a live CD? | 03:00 |
| jedihawk | I just tried disconnecting the other hard drives, in case they were causing trouble. but I still get the kernel panic upon boot. | 03:01 |
| jedihawk | I'm betting that the hard drives are not the issue. | 03:01 |
| xixor | lol, I sneeze and my kernel panics, doesn't mean you need a new computer | 03:01 |
| jedihawk | yaa, but I don't know where to go from here. was stable for years, now it won't even boot up with a fresh install. :-( | 03:02 |
| xixor | oic | 03:02 |
| xixor | I thought this was an upgrade that was working fine | 03:02 |
| xixor | I dunno, sounds like you just had a mutt. Some computers just weren't meant to run lolnux, so sayeth the great user in the sky | 03:02 |
| SIR_Taco | dundee: added my 2 cents to your bug report | 03:03 |
| jedihawk | the "upgrade" started me on this adventure. the "upgrade" seems to have killed my system so much that not even a re-install will work. | 03:03 |
| xixor | jedihawk: lol. computers are awesome. | 03:05 |
| jedihawk | xixor: after five or six years of stability, now it decides not to work? | 03:05 |
| xixor | five or six years is like 50 years in dog years for comptuers | 03:05 |
| jedihawk | xixor: now booting up in to "live mode" from one of my USB drives... | 03:05 |
| xixor | does that work? | 03:05 |
| OerHeks | five years is a lifetime, in the pcmarket | 03:05 |
| jedihawk | yes, that works. I see the KDE desktop. | 03:06 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Thanks. | 03:06 |
| jedihawk | network works. | 03:07 |
| SIR_Taco | dundee: I'll follow it and see what I can do to fix it in my sparse time if possible | 03:07 |
| jedihawk | I've mounted my active partition /dev/sda1 | 03:08 |
| dundee | SIR_Taco: Ok | 03:08 |
| jedihawk | dang, my home dir is over 200G! | 03:10 |
| jedihawk | geez, mplayer2 works with sound. I could almost run my system like this. | 03:12 |
| xixor | jedihawk: second times the charm. If it were me, I'd re-install kubuntu 12.10, format the system drives, etc. I have my lolnux boxes setup with /home on separate partitions, so the system installed on / can be lost without much consequence | 03:16 |
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| jedihawk | xixor: good idea. I'm thinking I'll put my /home dir on an entirely separate drive next time. | 03:19 |
| jedihawk | I think I found the problem. Or A problem. While browsing my home dir (and pruning), the drive mount went away. Looking in /dev/ for the drive, there was no /dev/sda*. So it seems that my main drive is hozed. :-( There are cursed items in the world, and this is one of them. | 04:56 |
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| noaXess | morning.. | 06:42 |
| noaXess | what is the key to load grub2 menu on boot? shift? | 06:42 |
| noaXess | left/right? | 06:42 |
| almoxarife | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 <-- how about any key according to the link? | 06:48 |
| almoxarife | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 <-- how about any key according to the link? noaXess | 06:49 |
| noaXess | hey almoxarife.. thanks... so right shift. and sometimes ESC HA | 07:04 |
| noaXess | anyone here has talked about a new browser.. hm.. don't rebmber the name | 07:07 |
| noaXess | ha got it.. qupzilla ;) | 07:11 |
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| harry12 | why is kubuntu so neglected by media and in general? | 08:56 |
| harry12 | its hardly been reviewed the last year | 08:56 |
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| hydron | hi every body | 09:45 |
| noaXess | hi hydron | 09:46 |
| hydron | I organise a club of infomatics and robotics, tomorrow, I'm going give them an introduction to linux using Kubuntu as example | 09:47 |
| hydron | and of course most of them are using windows | 09:47 |
| hydron | and don't have a fast cinnexion in the university | 09:47 |
| OerHeks | What continent/country/city ? | 09:48 |
| hydron | Morocco | 09:48 |
| hydron | so I want them to install Kubuntu with wubi installer | 09:48 |
| hydron | offline | 09:48 |
| OerHeks | great! if you have internet there, show them this IRC support :-) | 09:49 |
| hydron | I mean, having a downloaded iso image, is that possible ? | 09:49 |
| hydron | :D of course | 09:49 |
| hydron | but our internet is very low | 09:49 |
| hydron | and may be It want be working Sunday :P | 09:50 |
| OerHeks | sure, wubi is on the kubuntu.iso | 09:50 |
| hydron | no, It isn't, I guess | 09:50 |
| swex | Hi all! | 09:50 |
| OerHeks | Yes it is, i just checked | 09:51 |
| OerHeks | hi swex | 09:51 |
| hydron | just to be sure, please give the link where from you downloaded the image | 09:51 |
| hydron | hi swex | 09:51 |
| swex | I found interesting stuff! Kplayer (kde mplayer ui) adds shortcut to right click context menu | 09:51 |
| OerHeks | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.10/release/ | 09:52 |
| hydron | thank you a lot :D | 09:52 |
| swex | how to implement that? | 09:53 |
| noaXess | fu.. my xorg is getting me crazy.. | 10:05 |
| yossarianuk | hey - maybe offtopic (again) but can I ask a query about KVM here? | 10:05 |
| Kottizen | Hi. Is it possible to install the tablet version on a Nexus 7? | 10:15 |
| thechef | I have trouble using SFTP in conjunction with a filemanager | 10:19 |
| thechef | It's unreliable. | 10:20 |
| thechef | But I don't understand this, because the tool sftp is reliable and I'd expect they share code so there is no way KDE could disable sftp from working properly when launched from Dolphin | 10:21 |
| slacking_rich | Hello all-I am running kubuntu 12.10 and my sound devices seem to have been replaced with pulseaudio in phonon-the audio no longer seems to work either >< | 10:22 |
| slacking_rich | Does anyone have any input on how to fix it?:) | 10:23 |
| slacking_rich | The weird thing is I am sure the individual devices were listed in phonon yesterday, now it just shows pulse. | 10:25 |
| yossarianuk | slacking_rich, if all else fails and your sure you haven't changed any hardward/drivers you could always do | 10:26 |
| yossarianuk | sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop | 10:26 |
| yossarianuk | (as your user) | 10:27 |
| yossarianuk | rm -rf ~/.kde | 10:27 |
| yossarianuk | sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start | 10:27 |
| yossarianuk | - this will wipe all kde settings (including kde apps) to default | 10:27 |
| lordievader | Better to move the .kde (to .kde.bak) than to delete. | 10:28 |
| slacking_rich | yossarianuk: Thanks, but I'd rather not lose my other settings. It was working fine yesterday, I did install some updates but I think it was just apache. | 10:28 |
| lordievader | Believe that kmail stores it mail in there, so if you are using POP it ain't a good idea to go around deleting the folder... | 10:28 |
| yossarianuk | Have you tried to just restart kde? | 10:32 |
| slacking_rich | yossarianuk: No, I just turned the pc on this morning. | 10:33 |
| noaXess | hm.. since xorg from 12.10 i need to disable desktop effects complete .. with desktop effects after minutes, xorg going up to 20-40% cpu ussage and i can't work on my machine.. | 10:33 |
| yossarianuk | worth a go | 10:33 |
| slacking_rich | yossarianuk: Thanks, I'll try that and see if it works. Does kde actually require pulseaudio? | 10:35 |
| lordievader | slacking_rich: No you could use alsa with kde, you might even be able to uses OSS but of that I'm not sure. | 10:37 |
| yossarianuk | kde doesn't but some ubuntu packages (i.e kubuntu packages are designed for it by default) | 10:38 |
| slacking_rich | lordievader: Thanks, I am just looking at the pulse documentation now. | 10:38 |
| lordievader | slacking_rich: However for most people PulseAudio has matured enough to be fine for them. | 10:38 |
| yossarianuk | i.e I run arch and KDE with no pulseaudio | 10:38 |
| yossarianuk | oddly I have the least issues with that.... | 10:38 |
| slacking_rich | lordievader: Yeah, I don't wnat to break anything. The pulse website states that: This generally implies that Phonon has been compiled correctly with PulseAudio support but the KDE-specific support module for PulseAudio has not been loaded. | 10:39 |
| lordievader | slacking_rich: What is your problem exactly? | 10:40 |
| noaXess | in 12.10 is lightdm new dm? | 10:41 |
| yossarianuk | yes | 10:41 |
| noaXess | default dm.. | 10:41 |
| noaXess | hm.. ok | 10:41 |
| yossarianuk | I think you can change back if you want. | 10:42 |
| noaXess | yossarianuk: which is better and faster? | 10:42 |
| noaXess | kdm or lightdm? | 10:42 |
| lordievader | noaXess: Kdm probably got corrupted in the upgrade, but you can simply reinstall it and it will work again. | 10:42 |
| yossarianuk | well I have used kdm for nearly 10 years... | 10:42 |
| yossarianuk | kdm seems easier to theme. | 10:43 |
| noaXess | lordievader: you mean on upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 kdm was removed and lightdm set as defaut? | 10:43 |
| slacking_rich | lordievader: No audio in kde, also the devices were not showing in phonon | 10:43 |
| noaXess | can that cause xorg cpu usage? | 10:43 |
| slacking_rich | lordievader: But running 'start-pulseaudio-kde' seems to have fixed it. | 10:43 |
| lordievader | noaXess: In my upgraded kdm wasn't removed, just got corrupted... | 10:44 |
| noaXess | on a fresch 12.10 install, which is the default dm on kubuntu? | 10:44 |
| lordievader | noaXess: Ligtdm, for your xorg problem check the logs, they might give you a hint. | 10:45 |
| noaXess | lordievader: ok... lunch first ;).. bbs | 10:46 |
| slacking_rich | yossarianuk, lordievader: Thanks for the help both, going to get back to work now its fixed:) | 10:51 |
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest3190 | ||
| devin_ | has anyone here messed with PlayOnLinux | 11:46 |
| devin_ | ? | 11:46 |
| invariant | devin_, yes | 12:00 |
| invariant | devin_, it's a good idea, but the scripts are generally bad. | 12:01 |
| invariant | devin_, I have not ever been able to use it for anything. | 12:01 |
| invariant | devin_, that is, I wanted to try it on some applications that I had configured by hand in a new profile, but they didn't work, and as such I strongly recommend you to understand how wine works yourself. | 12:01 |
| invariant | Is 4.9.3 going to work on 12.04? | 12:02 |
| devin_ | dont know im using 12.10 and im not real solid on the whole wine concept yet | 12:03 |
| invariant | devin_, if your time is worth a lot to you, you should just use a separate Windows machine. | 12:03 |
| invariant | devin_, that said, I find wine to be a useful program, as opposed to PlayOnLinux. | 12:04 |
| devin_ | lol, no i like to learn alos im holding a grudge against msoft atm | 12:04 |
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| invariant | devin_, you should use it because it is better for your purposes, not for phych. reasons. | 12:05 |
| invariant | pscy. * | 12:05 |
| devin_ | for the reasons of one OS simplicity, and not having to deal with ridiculous licensing/warranty rules and bad customer support? certainly | 12:08 |
| yossarianuk | However its best not to fund a patent troll which in turn funds legal attacks against computing for mankind | 12:09 |
| yossarianuk | especially as tax payers are *forced* to fund microsoft through taxes | 12:09 |
| devin_ | YES THAT! THANKYOU | 12:09 |
| yossarianuk | schools, hopitals m etc all use windows paid for by the tax payer - there is no reason at all that the police 'needs' windows. | 12:10 |
| amichair | Hi, is there a list of temp/cache folders that can be safely erased if necessary, or excluded from backup? i.e. ~/.cache, ~/.kde/cache*, ~/.thumbnails, etc.? | 12:12 |
| devin_ | except that its a universal system that every one already knows, apple is slowly breaking that wall down though | 12:13 |
| bartson | hi, can somebody pls tell me where to find the temp files of flash player. used to be in /tmp but it's not there anymore. | 12:16 |
| yossarianuk | bartson usually there are in ~/.macomedia | 12:22 |
| yossarianuk | ~/.adobe | 12:22 |
| hydron | once I installed the dropbox plugin for dolphin, I tried It, but didn't work, so I uninstalled It, but the dropbox entry in the right click menu is still apearing, how to get ride of It ? | 12:25 |
| bartson | thx yoss | 12:26 |
| yossarianuk | hydron: the menu might be stored in ~/.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus | 12:27 |
| yossarianuk | you could re-install it then | 12:27 |
| yossarianuk | apt-get --purge remove it | 12:27 |
| hydron | remove what ? | 12:27 |
| hydron | dolphin ? | 12:27 |
| Peace- | bartson: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/flash-video-chromium-where-does-chromium-save-flash-videos/ | 12:28 |
| bartson | thank u Peace though i'm using firefox | 12:29 |
| Peace- | bartson: just use download helper to download flash videos | 12:29 |
| Peace- | bartson: addons | 12:29 |
| Peace- | bartson: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/09/plasma-desktopd21071.png | 12:31 |
| devin_ | well wait a sec if its firefox then heres something,http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/saving-flash-videos-in-linux-tmp-no-longer-works | 12:31 |
| devin_ | but i thought that problem was already solved | 12:32 |
| hydron | yossarianuk: you didn't tell me what to remove | 12:32 |
| Peace- | on firefox you need to find out the flash file somewhere i mean is hard devin_ | 12:33 |
| bartson | well thx but that post is really old | 12:33 |
| Peace- | devin_: with download helper it's trivial to save flash | 12:33 |
| devin_ | oh ok | 12:33 |
| Peace- | you can even convert files into mp3 | 12:33 |
| Peace- | if you have ffmpeg installed properly | 12:34 |
| bartson | ja i know | 12:34 |
| devin_ | yeah i used something like that on win xp before | 12:34 |
| bartson | but it's not exactly what i'm lookin for | 12:34 |
| bartson | would be nice if all my stream still would be in the /tmp folder | 12:35 |
| devin_ | do yall someone would use a WINEPREFIX rather than install a wine program straight to my drive_c directory | 12:36 |
| Peace- | bartson: it's the same right now but it's harder to find it | 12:37 |
| bartson | why still using Windows devin? | 12:38 |
| Peace- | find .mozilla/firefox/*.default/Cache -type f -exec file {} \; | grep Flash | 12:39 |
| Peace- | bartson: | 12:39 |
| ozzzy | windows works AND is supports hardware I need AND has software that linux doesn't | 12:39 |
| devin_ | i was up until they screwed me a few weeks ago before that i switched back and forth | 12:39 |
| ozzzy | but... as I don't need either on my desktop that's where linux lies | 12:39 |
| amichair | Hi, is there a list of temp/cache folders that can be safely erased if necessary, or excluded from backup? I found ~/.cache, ~/.kde/cache*, ~/.thumbnails, ~/.local/share/Trash, but there are probably more... | 12:40 |
| devin_ | i think its still an interesting system from a technical perspective | 12:40 |
| bartson | what is it specific what brings u back to windows? | 12:41 |
| yossarianuk | hydron - sorry never used dropbox... | 12:41 |
| yossarianuk | assuming you installed a debfile | 12:41 |
| Peace- | amichair: cache is cache so the datas in those folders will be erased sometime | 12:42 |
| yossarianuk | (or via apt) | 12:42 |
| yossarianuk | try to find out package name with | 12:42 |
| yossarianuk | dpkg -l | grep -i dropbox | 12:42 |
| Peace- | you need to install kfiledrop | 12:42 |
| Peace- | to use dropbox on kde | 12:42 |
| hydron | thank you | 12:43 |
| amichair | Peace-: they should be, but not necessarily when u need the disk space, or when it wastes resources when traversing the filesystem for other reasons, or taking up many GBs of backup capacity unnecessarily... | 12:43 |
| hydron | the plugin doesn't aprear as a package | 12:43 |
| Peace- | hydron: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/how-to-use-dropbox-and-kde-or-kubuntu/ | 12:43 |
| bartson | devin? | 12:43 |
| Peace- | hydron: for the service menu i wil help you after | 12:43 |
| Peace- | i guess i did a version that should work | 12:43 |
| hydron | ok, thank you very much Peace :) | 12:44 |
| devin_ | well its so widespread that it easily works with almost anything | 12:44 |
| devin_ | but its seriously lacking on open source | 12:45 |
| devin_ | and linux is easier to optimise to my specific wants thats why i switched | 12:46 |
| devin_ | have yall heard of reactOS | 12:47 |
| Peace- | hydron: to use the service menu try this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4127065/DropboxServiceMenu-0.16.1_peace.tar.gz | 12:47 |
| Peace- | it's a version i fixed it should work correctly | 12:47 |
| hydron | how to install it please ? | 12:48 |
| hydron | as a plugin for dolphin ? | 12:48 |
| Peace- | untar it | 12:48 |
| Peace- | hydron: then there is a script that install it | 12:49 |
| hydron | ok, I see It :) | 12:49 |
| Peace- | so from konsole ./installer-name | 12:49 |
| hydron | so, what comes after running the script ? | 12:50 |
| bartson | yes, ReactOS supossed to be a windows clone | 12:51 |
| Peace- | hydron: have you read my post ? | 12:51 |
| Peace- | hydron: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/how-to-use-dropbox-and-kde-or-kubuntu/ | 12:51 |
| bartson | but personally I think it's never getting finished | 12:51 |
| devin_ | not a clone necessarily, wouldnt a clone have to be a specific version of windows | 12:52 |
| hydron | I think I need to install kfilebox :) | 12:53 |
| devin_ | yeah maybe how long does an apha stage normally take | 12:53 |
| bartson | definitely no! Linux for example is a Unix clone | 12:53 |
| bartson | there's no orig. unix code in linux | 12:54 |
| devin_ | i see your point | 12:54 |
| bartson | i tried reactos over two years ago | 12:55 |
| Peace- | hydron: btw i need to test the service menu users has said there is a problem | 12:55 |
| bartson | seems nothing developed further till now | 12:55 |
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest12530 | ||
| hydron | I'm installing kfilebox now | 12:56 |
| devin_ | me too the blog still looks active though | 12:57 |
| devin_ | i wonder whats going on | 12:58 |
| bartson | but i can't see a point for ReactOS anyway | 12:58 |
| ozzzy | no kfilebox package here | 12:58 |
| ozzzy | but... dropbox works without it | 12:58 |
| bartson | it's as useless as KDE on Windows | 12:58 |
| bartson | no Point at all | 12:58 |
| devin_ | haha the point is for people like me who think software should be open source as much as practicle so other people can make it better | 13:01 |
| bartson | sure, in Kubuntu u got it all | 13:02 |
| bartson | no need for an old fashione windows clone | 13:02 |
| devin_ | thats why i use kubuntu but not everyone has heard the gospel yet | 13:03 |
| devin_ | espescially software publishers | 13:03 |
| Peace- | guys for chat there is #kubuntu-offtopic tx | 13:03 |
| devin_ | k | 13:04 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:04 |
| bartson | come on it's quiet here anyways | 13:04 |
| Peace- | bartson: this is support man , you can talk better on the offtopic room | 13:05 |
| bartson | yea u right | 13:07 |
| bartson | Peace: Are u a official support team? or ur just a nice guy to help ppl? | 13:09 |
| bartson | just don know how this works here exactly?? | 13:09 |
| Peace- | bartson: i am here since 4\5 years | 13:09 |
| Peace- | and yea i know how her it works | 13:10 |
| bartson | but i mean is this ur freetime here? | 13:10 |
| Peace- | well right now i am working | 13:10 |
| Peace- | xD | 13:10 |
| bartson | admin? | 13:11 |
| Peace- | sure | 13:11 |
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| Peace- | hydron: i have tested my version and it works | 13:23 |
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| cubbybear | hi all just installed 12.10 and I am trying to install my Brother MFC j835dw printer. I installed the print driver but could not install the cupswarapper due to cannot fill dependencies. Can someone help get this running | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | cubbybear, have you updated/upgraded since your install ? | 13:40 |
| cubbybear | BluesKaj: I updated the system after the install an before I attempted to get printer running | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | cubbybear, also run , dist-upgrade | 13:42 |
| cubbybear | BluesKaj: ok | 13:42 |
| BluesKaj | there was a cups ugrade a few days ago | 13:43 |
| cubbybear | BluesKaj: I am geting comand not found error | 13:44 |
| Peace- | cubbybear: wait can you install and managet your printer here ? http://localhost:631/printers | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-get upgrade , then , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 13:46 |
| cubbybear | BluesKaj: Same problem Printer apperas in list of printers, but the print driver does not apperar in the list of drivers | 13:55 |
| cubbybear | BluesKaj: did the upgrade thing and tried the localhost thing | 13:56 |
| Peace- | cubbybear: try to install your printer from here http://localhost:631/printers | 13:57 |
| Peace- | cubbybear: remove teh printer then you reinstall always from http://localhost:631/printers | 13:57 |
| cubbybear | BluesKaj: tried that the same thing the printer is seen but the printdriver does not appear in the list of print drivers | 13:58 |
| Peace- | sorry dunno | 13:59 |
| Peace- | bye | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | cubbybear, have you tried this site for the driver , you might need it , http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html | 13:59 |
| cubbybear | That is where I got the driver and the cupswrapper and I followed their printed instruction to install including following the prerequists | 14:01 |
| BluesKaj | cubbybear, right , then their driver is probly not up to date , that's all I can think of atm | 14:04 |
| cubbybear | BluesKaj: thanks I am going to try a shutdown and restart that is the last thing I can think of | 14:05 |
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| AMDAthlon | will kubuntu get kde 4.9.3? | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | amd it's already in the kubuntu- ppa | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | AMDAthlon,^ | 15:07 |
| AMDAthlon | oh | 15:08 |
| AMDAthlon | will it make its way into 12.10 outside of PPA? | 15:08 |
| AMDAthlon | ether way thanks! | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | eventually ..probly soon | 15:08 |
| AMDAthlon | thanks man! g2g | 15:09 |
| onitg | Hey guys, i was wondering if there was a supported way to install a more recent version of kmix (due to the following bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309045). someone told me to try to use the kubuntu ppa and see if there's a more up to date version of it (is it the launchpad page?) but i don't know how much is officially supported. | 15:22 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 309045 in KMix Panel Docking "kmix causes plasma system tray to flicker when a new pulse stream is opened or closed" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 15:22 |
| rijack | if i has NAS with music can amorok set that as a default library or sync source | 15:55 |
| DarthFrog | rijack: Is it an NFS mount? | 15:56 |
| ozzzy | so... how do I get kubuntu to let me at the it87 sensors | 15:57 |
| rijack | i think it defaulted to samba i not real knowledgable about nas and harddrive doesnt like anything but ntfs. somehow Kubuntu still reads and writes to it fine | 15:58 |
| DarthFrog | rijack: When you say Kubuntu reads/writes to it, specifically what is it reading/writing to? To a mounted filesystem? | 15:59 |
| rijack | to the drive it doesnt show up as mounted unless i plug it into the usb but the system will R/W whether it usb or network | 16:02 |
| DarthFrog | Well, if you have it as a mounted filesystem, yes you can set Amarok to use it. | 16:04 |
| andycheng | hhi | 16:06 |
| rijack | ok how do set it up right now it says it needs a smb protocol source plugin and cant find it. also can it be set up as part of the local collection so i dont have to navigate to it | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, does the drive show in places in dolphin | 16:12 |
| na-utusan | when is 4.9.3 coming to 12.04 LTS ? | 16:12 |
| rijack | well indirectly yes, ill get the path just a sec | 16:14 |
| keithzg | So, I notice there isn't any plasma-active package for ARM in the Ubuntu repos, at least as far as packages.ubuntu.com is concerned. I'd love to try out Plasma Active on a Nexus 7, however; are there any built packages somewhere? | 16:15 |
| rijack | network / Samba Shares/ Workgroup/ Router(Belkin Router)/ Drive(A1) | 16:16 |
| BluesKaj | rijack , it's connected to the router by usb , that's a different story | 16:19 |
| rijack | uh oh will it still work | 16:20 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, if the router is NTFS then connecting it to a pc would be simpler , just set up the drive to share with other pcs | 16:21 |
| Bladesfist1 | Hmm, come on here to report my issue and it disappears, I am watching you desura. | 16:21 |
| BluesKaj | not the router sorry i meant to say "drive " | 16:23 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, ^ | 16:23 |
| BluesKaj | ok let's clear this up rijack , to what is the drive connected ? | 16:24 |
| rijack | the router via USB | 16:27 |
| rijack | if i navigate thru places and click a song | 16:27 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, one question , why to the router ? | 16:27 |
| rijack | vlc will play it | 16:28 |
| rijack | i Want multiple computers to access it | 16:28 |
| rijack | but amarok say it needs some other plugin | 16:29 |
| rijack | i would rather use amorok cause i like the interface better | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | ok , always on , but a pc connection with share permissions works as well | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | which plugin rijack | 16:30 |
| rijack | hold on | 16:31 |
| rijack | SMB protocol source | 16:31 |
| rijack | when it searches for this it can never find it | 16:31 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, in amarok plugins , check SMB (Windows) share backend | 16:34 |
| BluesKaj | amarok>settings>configure amarok>plugins | 16:36 |
| rijack | iits checked | 16:36 |
| noaXess | still have issues with xorg cpu usage if desktop effects are enabled.. logfile Xorg.0.log does not show any specials | 16:40 |
| noaXess | does a switch from lightdm to kdm be a solution? | 16:40 |
| BluesKaj | I wish i could recreate your issue , but my router doesn't have usb , i just leave my external drive connected to my always on pc | 16:41 |
| BluesKaj | rijack,^ | 16:41 |
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| onitg | Hey guys, i was wondering if there was a supported way to install a more recent version of kmix (due to the following bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309045). someone told me to try to use the kubuntu ppa and see if there's a more up to date version of it (is it the launchpad page?) but i don't know how much is officially supported. (it usually corrupts the graphics after a while) | 17:01 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 309045 in KMix Panel Docking "kmix causes plasma system tray to flicker when a new pulse stream is opened or closed" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 17:01 |
| BluesKaj | onitg, what's the advantage of the newer kmix over the present one ? | 17:03 |
| onitg | when an application (any application) plays a sound | 17:03 |
| onitg | the whole system tray flickers and bounces around | 17:03 |
| onitg | it usually end up full of artifacts | 17:03 |
| BluesKaj | hmm on 12.10 ? | 17:04 |
| onitg | it's the same bug i've linked | 17:04 |
| onitg | if i completely close kmix the bug doesn't happen | 17:04 |
| onitg | yeah i'm using the latest release, with all the updates applied | 17:04 |
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| onitg | i have to remove it because each time i receive an IM (sound notification) play a video or some music the system tray starts to bounce around until it corrupts the graphics | 17:05 |
| onitg | even with flash player on web pages | 17:05 |
| BluesKaj | onitg, I haven't experienced that ,... could it be the desktop theme perhaps ? | 17:06 |
| onitg | i don't know, it's the same bug that is reported to the page i've linked | 17:06 |
| onitg | if i remove kmix everything works fine | 17:06 |
| onitg | i can try to change theme | 17:07 |
| onitg | but i didn't install any, i'm using the one provided with kubuntu | 17:07 |
| onitg | ok i tried with other themes from the default installation and the problem persists | 17:08 |
| onitg | so i can either update kmix from somewhere else, or try to revert back to the previous kubuntu version | 17:09 |
| BluesKaj | ...BBL | 17:14 |
| onitg | BluesKaj: see you later | 17:15 |
| xwalk | I just finished up this function to find the mean, median, mode or range of a series of numbers. I think the code that handles the statistics is okay, but I'm not sure on how to go about error checking (if the user tries to send a list of strings as an argument, which wouldn't be supported by the first and last if statements in the function) or if it would even be warranted as I know nothing about error checking in code. Can someone take | 17:21 |
| xwalk | a look? http://bpaste.net/show/9M7gPfuBRxCHC9uJquIr/ | 17:21 |
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| tsimpson | xwalk: #python would be a better place to ask | 17:24 |
| xwalk | *facepalm extreme mode* | 17:24 |
| xwalk | Wrong channel tab... | 17:24 |
| Pici | .39 | 17:24 |
| Pici | oops | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, let's discuss the issue here , rather than in offtopic | 17:38 |
| rijack | oh oops | 17:38 |
| BluesKaj | prtscn | 17:39 |
| rijack | terminal command? | 17:39 |
| BluesKaj | on your keyboard, it's beside f12 on mine | 17:39 |
| BluesKaj | so you've decided to remain connected to the router ? | 17:40 |
| rijack | yes ithink this is a fixable issue because i can navigate throught places to the drive double click on a song and it plays | 17:42 |
| rijack | but that same error come and its not until i click cancel that the sooong stops | 17:43 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, you can do that when connected to on any linux pc , and if the drive uses ntfs then any windows pc as well | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | I find samba unreliable | 17:45 |
| rijack | k so why is it aproblem to do it through the media player | 17:46 |
| rijack | what is the dif between smb and what i just did | 17:46 |
| BluesKaj | it's not the media player , it's the connection to the router that can cause problems , connecting it to apc that's always on is more reliable | 17:49 |
| BluesKaj | no smb or samba needed | 17:50 |
| rijack | is there a place where i can read more about this | 17:56 |
| BluesKaj | a router connection sounds more direct but it's not due to the network/router protocol required by such a connection, unless you have router access thru it's webpage and options settings , but not all routers are that configurable | 17:56 |
| Peace- | rijack: what's the problem samba again ? | 17:56 |
| rijack | cause i dont know anything about routers | 17:57 |
| rijack | trying to stream direct from hard drive thru usb@router to amarok | 18:00 |
| Peace- | rijack: ah amarok | 18:00 |
| Peace- | i guess there was a problem with that | 18:00 |
| Peace- | and there is the wiki | 18:00 |
| Peace- | let me try to find out | 18:00 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: :) http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=155117&file1=155117-1.jpeg&file2=&file3=&name=Dark+Rock+Solid++Nowardev | 18:01 |
| Peace- | rijack: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Samba | 18:01 |
| rijack | thankyou i will at it | 18:03 |
| BluesKaj | Peace-, he wants the drive connected to his router | 18:04 |
| rijack | is smb.conf of interest to me on this | 18:04 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: ok but there is a computer right ? or not? | 18:05 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: or it's a special device? | 18:05 |
| rijack | there is a computer at the client not the server | 18:05 |
| rijack | the server is integrated into the router, its a belkin n750db | 18:07 |
| kunal | hii | 18:07 |
| rijack | it seem to have a reasonable powerful firmware so it looks like imight be learning router scripting soon | 18:08 |
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| BluesKaj | rijack, you may not need to do any scripting , just find the router assigned IP of the drive the routers internal webpage networking options or some such and use the IP with the "add network folder" in dolphin /network | 18:18 |
| rijack | alright let me see what i can find | 18:19 |
| BluesKaj | bbiab ...going to check mail/postbox | 18:20 |
| rijack | well i know the router is unix based now | 18:26 |
| rijack | this is what the router calls it /tmp/sda1 : /mnt/shared/Drive(A1) | 18:29 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, no IP ? | 18:30 |
| rijack | i couldnt find one but i did find an option to create a virtual server | 18:31 |
| rijack | i could send prtscrn if i figure out how to upload images\ | 18:32 |
| DarthFrog | !imagebin | rijack | 18:33 |
| ubottu | rijack: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. | 18:33 |
| BluesKaj | rijack, well , I'm not familiar with the router but any pcs or devices connected usually have an IP address assigned in the "connected devices " list or page | 18:34 |
| genii-around | Well, I just got here so not sure what came before. But some of them use only command-line interface like Juniper | 18:35 |
| rijack | i understand but this one only ounted it as sda1 | 18:36 |
| rijack | i was looking at the log when i plugged it in | 18:36 |
| rijack | then i went to the dhcp list and nothing | 18:36 |
| ozzzy | what are the consequences of turning acpi off | 18:44 |
| BluesKaj | ozzzy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2075434 | 18:49 |
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| ozzzy | I used to be able to set acp_enforce_resources to lax and have my fans show up... doesn't work now | 18:52 |
| onitg | Hey guys, i was wondering if there was a supported way to install a more recent version of kmix (due to the following bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309045). someone told me to try to use the kubuntu ppa and see if there's a more up to date version of it (is it the launchpad page?) but i don't know how much is officially supported. (it usually corrupts the graphics after a while) | 19:15 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 309045 in KMix Panel Docking "kmix causes plasma system tray to flicker when a new pulse stream is opened or closed" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 19:15 |
| Peace- | onitg: just install veromix ? | 19:20 |
| onitg | Peace-: that's far from being a fix (the bug is still there) but if it provides the same functionality i guess i can try it out | 19:21 |
| Peace- | onitg: sudo apt-get install plasma-wdiget-veromix | 19:22 |
| onitg | Peace-: it's not so nice but i guess i can use it for now | 19:25 |
| onitg | i can keep kmix closed so that it stops corrupting the system tray | 19:26 |
| onitg | Peace-: how am i supposed to report this kind of bug? it's not something that needs to be fixed, updating the package would work | 19:27 |
| Peace- | onitg: ubuntu-bug i guess | 19:27 |
| yofel | onitg: for that one would need the actual fix first. Putting kmix 4.10 together with kde 4.9 is out of question. And 91495f is only a doc fix, not the fix for that bug | 19:29 |
| onitg | yofel: maybe that specific revision is just the one the tested the issue with. the fix is between the revision used by kubuntu and the one reported to be working | 19:30 |
| yofel | right, except that the diff between the 4.9 branch and master is 8752 lines long | 19:31 |
| onitg | yofel: does this mean i will have to keep kmix broken until a new kubuntu version is released? | 19:31 |
| yofel | so unless a kmix dev points out when that was fixed it's unlikely to be fixed in kubuntu | 19:31 |
| yofel | the ideal workflow would be to get this fixed upstream for 4.9.4 | 19:32 |
| Peace- | onitg: btw veromix is a very good mixer | 19:32 |
| Peace- | i prefer it because you can even equalize the ooutput | 19:32 |
| aleth | Anyone know how to reset the settings of oxygen-gtk? | 19:33 |
| onitg | yofel: would installing kmix 4.10 give problems to my kde 4.9? | 19:33 |
| aleth | (and the KDE config files so that it is used) | 19:33 |
| onitg | Peace-: yeah i'm not telling that it's bad, maybe i'm just too much used to kmix | 19:34 |
| Peace- | onitg: :) give it a try | 19:34 |
| onitg | it's just a pity that such an important program of the KDE desktop is broken :( | 19:34 |
| yofel | aleth: gtk2: ~/.gtkrc-2.0, gtk3: ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini | 19:34 |
| FlyingElvis | is there a money management for kde? | 19:35 |
| FlyingElvis | program* | 19:35 |
| yofel | FlyingElvis: there's kmymoney | 19:35 |
| * yofel hasn't tried it | 19:35 | |
| FlyingElvis | ok ill go look for it ty | 19:35 |
| yofel | onitg: you're free to try if you know how to build and install it | 19:36 |
| aleth | yofel: thanks. I've reset both, as far as I can tell. But the tabbar background and some widgets are still not styled properly | 19:36 |
| yofel | hm, dunno then, that should be all of the settings | 19:36 |
| onitg | i could try to revert back to the previous version of kubuntu or format the hard drive | 19:37 |
| yofel | I think trying veromix would be easier for now ^^ | 19:37 |
| onitg | yofel: i'm just scared about this thing, it's not the first time i had bugs | 19:37 |
| Peace- | aleth: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/09/plasma-desktopcz2652.png | 19:38 |
| onitg | the first time i had some, i tried to report them and had email notifications for months | 19:38 |
| onitg | and the bugs were still there | 19:38 |
| onitg | for example, the time server sync setting in the date and time panel is not working | 19:38 |
| onitg | and it's been like that forever (it crashes the settings panel if you try to apply the settings a couple of times - and never works for me) | 19:39 |
| aleth | Peace-: Those are empty for me (apart from a "created by KDE" comment). What should they be? | 19:39 |
| FlyingElvis | ty yofel kmymoney was exactly what i was looking for :) | 19:40 |
| Peace- | aleth: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/09/plasma-desktopOg2652.png | 19:40 |
| aleth | Peace-: ah, that could be the problem then, thanks! | 19:41 |
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| invariant | How do I know how my keyboard layout is named in KDE? | 20:40 |
| Walex | invariant: not so easy. There are sites with photos of keyboards and names of layouts. | 20:42 |
| Walex | invariant: or you can use 'xkeycaps' which has a lot of builting layouts to check out | 20:42 |
| invariant | Walex, I know the layout now, but where can I configure that exactly? | 20:51 |
| Walex | with kxkb | 20:55 |
| Walex | which is the GUI for the XKB subsystem (command line 'xkeymap' etc.) | 20:56 |
| Walex | System settings->Hardware->keyboard Advanced tab | 20:56 |
| Walex | oops Layout tab | 20:57 |
| Walex | oops agian ;Hardware:keyboard model | 20:57 |
| rijack | hopefully this will be an easy one. is there a way i can add parameter befor starting a program under wine | 20:58 |
| rijack | *parameters before | 20:58 |
| Walex | rijack: there is a WINE specific channell | 20:59 |
| rijack | there is? is there a directory for all these channels somewhere | 21:00 |
| rijack | it'd be really helpful | 21:00 |
| invariant | Walex, that only lists US or US alternative. | 21:01 |
| invariant | Walex, it doesn't say how those look like. | 21:01 |
| Walex | invariant: you can add new layouts | 21:01 |
| Walex | invariant: that's why you use some other program or photos to figure out the layout. Or you try a few | 21:02 |
| invariant | Too bad that the keyboards themselves don't just report the geometry of all the keys to the driver. | 21:03 |
| Walex | invariant: also note the 'Hardware>keyboard model selector' for the physiucal layout | 21:03 |
| invariant | This is just a failure in computer hardware design. | 21:03 |
| Walex | invariant: it would be moderately difficult, and it was too difficult to do in the original PC technology. | 21:03 |
| invariant | Walex, sure, but burning history wouldn't be a bad thing. | 21:04 |
| Walex | invariant: the difficulty with burning history is that history means "standard" which means interoperability | 21:04 |
| invariant | Walex, in that case a single company should just replace everything. | 21:06 |
| invariant | Like Apple. | 21:07 |
| Walex | invariant: that is what created the original PC standard. Then IBM sort of lost interest and this created a uinified standard which was in effect not proprietary | 21:08 |
| Walex | also Apple's strategy is not to create flexible standards, but to the create prebuilt configurations with very few choices. | 21:08 |
| invariant | Yeah, I suppose there is still a 500billion dollar niche. | 21:08 |
| invariant | Except most people don't know they want freedom. | 21:09 |
| invariant | Problem with some of this open-source software is that it marketed as a replacement, which it isn't. | 21:09 |
| invariant | E.g. Excel has no viable replacement. | 21:09 |
| invariant | That is, when you get a random Excel document and want to print it, it's simply not going to work properly. | 21:10 |
| Walex | invariant: that's a clone, not an equivalent. | 21:10 |
| invariant | Walex, no, a clone has the same GUI too. | 21:11 |
| invariant | Walex, it's an equivalent which happens to be compatible too. | 21:11 |
| genii-around | If these are not tech support issues relating to Kubuntu, may be better discussed in #kubuntu-offtopic instead :-) | 21:12 |
| invariant | The best solution would be to create standards for these types of documents. | 21:12 |
| invariant | It's not actually one of my problems directly. It's just that some people complain about it in my surroundings. | 21:13 |
| invariant | Regarding Kubuntu, will 4.9.3. be released for 12.04? | 21:13 |
| genii-around | Yes. From the -devel channel, earlier: <shadeslayer> yofel_: from the looks of it, 4.9.3 for precise is still building : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+builds?build_state=pending | 21:14 |
| yofel | it's done building and shadeslayer said it works for him, I'll publish it in a bit | 21:15 |
| invariant | Just to be sure: 4.9.3 fixes more problems than it creates, right? | 21:15 |
| yofel | that's the plan... | 21:15 |
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| Walex | I have 4.8.5 on KU 12.04 and it is from the Kubuntu PPA. Is that the latest "stable"? | 21:22 |
| BluesKaj | 12.04 is LTS , hence the older but more stable KDE | 21:24 |
| Walex | but that's the Kubuntu PPA, and the 4.9.3 above is mentioned for 12.04 too | 21:25 |
| yofel | That's a backport, you can install it if you want, but 4.8 is generally more tested | 21:26 |
| BluesKaj | Walex, your package manager has a setting that you must change in order to receive ppa packages | 21:26 |
| Walex | I use Aptitude usually and I got "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu precise main" in '/etc/apt/sources.list'. But I'll double check | 21:28 |
| yofel | 4.9 is in kubuntu-ppa/backports | 21:28 |
| invariant | 4.9.3 is not yet on backports | 21:29 |
| invariant | 4.9.2 is. | 21:29 |
| Walex | ahhh I guess the difference is between '/kubuntu-ppa/backports/' and '/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/' just checked in a browser and they are both there. | 21:31 |
| BluesKaj | 4.9.3 is in the kubuntu-ppa for 12.10 | 21:31 |
| deadsoul | If I mount smb folder, it creates .gvfs folder followed by the name of hostname-folder... does kde do the same? and where is that folder ? | 21:31 |
| BluesKaj | you can check if it's ac=vailable for 12.04 | 21:31 |
| deadsoul | wher does kubuntu store the mounted smb-folders ? | 21:33 |
| deadsoul | where * | 21:33 |
| yofel | invariant: it'll be there in a few minutes | 21:35 |
| deadsoul | hello | 21:38 |
| BluesKaj | Walex, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal | 21:38 |
| Walex | thanks! | 21:39 |
| yofel | Walex: and for 12.04 https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.series_filter=precise&batch=200 | 21:39 |
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| Tm_T | deadsoul: hmm, what you mean by mounted smb folders? | 21:44 |
| BluesKaj | deadsoul, dolphin/places/network | 21:44 |
| Walex | yofel: thanks too | 21:45 |
| deadsoul | Tm_T: on gnome if you open smb://some-ip/foler it will mount that folder in .gvfs directory... what about kde.. if you go to dolphin > network > samba shares > workgrounp > name-of-machine > some-folder | 21:47 |
| deadsoul | where does it mount that folder to ? | 21:47 |
| Tm_T | deadsoul: AFAIK in KDE it doesn't get mounted | 21:48 |
| deadsoul | Tm_T: Aww, | 21:49 |
| Tm_T | KDE's smarter (; | 21:49 |
| Walex | deadsoul: if something is mounted you will see where in Dolphin's 'Places' | 21:50 |
| Walex | deadsoul: as <Tm_T> hints, KDE has a more comprehensive "virtual mount" by which KDE programs can access stuff that is not mounted, e.g. FTP sites, web folders/DAV folders, etc. | 21:51 |
| deadsoul | Tm_T: tha means i will have to mount it manually if i want to use diff app for example | 21:51 |
| Tm_T | deadsoul: if you want to use non-KDE app, yes | 21:51 |
| Walex | deadsoul: but you can use KDE to mount it. | 21:52 |
| deadsoul | Tm_T: is kdiff a KDE app? | 21:53 |
| deadsoul | Walex: how? | 21:53 |
| Tm_T | deadsoul: it is | 21:53 |
| deadsoul | amm, yesterday i tried to play a movie from my network-folder using smplayer.. and i had to wait till kde download the whole movie-file in /tmp/ ... why is that ? can't it just play it over the network ? | 21:56 |
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| BluesKaj | deadsoul, try vlc or dragonplayer ..smplayer was always abit buggy IME | 22:04 |
| BluesKaj | mplayer guis all seem halfbaked to me | 22:05 |
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| deadsoul | BluesKaj: thanks, I'll try vlc | 22:18 |
| Walex | kaffeine, kmplayer, kplayer | 22:25 |
| Walex | actually not kmplayer: it is just a frontend for mplayer, and mplayer is not integrated with the KDE libraries | 22:25 |
| xixor | lol, sup | 23:13 |
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