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anthonyBonsoir. J'ai installé Lubuntu 12.04 et je n'ai pas l'icône du contrôle du volume. Est-ce normal ?00:05
anthonyEt je n'entends rien00:05
Unit193!fr00:07
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.00:07
anthonyThanks :D00:07
IdleOneUnit193: he installed Lubuntu but has no volume icon00:17
Unit193IdleOne: Alright, French channel will still be more helpful.00:18
IdleOneUnit193: probably right :)00:18
sjwrohello. i am trying to install a package (mintconstructor) as seen here: http://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/mintconstructor.01:00
sjwroand...01:00
sjwroit's on lubuntu 12.10, using chromium. the link is apt://mintconstructor. when i click on it, i get a new blank chromium window.01:01
sjwroi have tried to install software-center (USC), and i get the same result.01:01
sjwrohow can i download and install this package?01:01
Unit193It's because that is a mint package, it isn't in the Ubuntu repos.01:03
sjwrois it possible to shrink a mint iso in ubuntu, or am i just going to have to get a dvd disc?01:04
sjwrofrom preliminary googling it looks like it's not possible. could i just get an older version of mint that is on cd, then download a newer mint on DVD and trim the ISO from there?01:15
sjwro(on cd = 600MB, on dvd = 800MB)01:16
Unit193Pretty sure you should be asking the mint channel...01:17
Unit193!mint01:18
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:18
Unit193(Though, could unsquash the fs and resquash with xz compression)01:19
ryan_has anyone here used the linux steam beta client on lubuntu?03:31
Combat_Wombatwish i was in the beta :(03:31
Combat_Wombatid imagine it would work though03:32
ryan_combat_wombat checkout omgbuntu! website they have the link to dl the steam.deb file03:35
ryan_or if you want i can send it to you03:35
Combat_Wombatnaw i can find it thanks for the tip03:35
ryan_np03:36
ryan_im hoping i can get it to work03:36
ryan_i got too frustrated trying to get sound to work on a minimal ubuntu openbox install i was doing03:36
ryan_waved the white flag and going to install lubuntu 12.0403:36
ryan_even though it doesnt have lts03:36
ryan_but it seems dist upgrade is pretty good either way so03:37
Combat_Wombatid use lubuntu for everything if i could and steam on linux may make it happen :)03:37
ryan_ya03:38
ryan_I just want to find a better task bar theme03:38
ryan_I wanted to use crunchbang but I couldnt try the linux steam client on it...and torchlight 2 on steam through wine didnt work which it did on ubuntu03:39
ryan_so does not having long term support really matter?03:39
ryan_to a degree? Is it easy to just upgrade the distro without losing what you installed?03:39
Combat_Wombatidk I always do a fresh install when i change versions03:41
Combat_Wombathopefully someone else will chime in03:41
holsteini do because its faster03:41
Unit193Upgrades are faster for me.03:42
holsteinUnit193: you do it with a downloaded iso? as the source?03:42
Unit193holstein: Nope.03:42
holsteinUnit193: how do you upgrade so quickly?03:44
Unit193Download speeds aren't so bad, but if you factor in configure and uninstall/install of personal packages...03:45
ryan_ya I did a dist upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and even though it said partial it still fixed itself03:46
ryan_what about 12.04 not being long term support03:46
ryan_alot of people complain about that03:46
ryan_going to install statler openbox theme on lubuntu hopefully03:47
holsteinUnit193: i should pay more attention to that detail, but still.. best case, i get an upgrade done in 5 hours03:47
ryan_ya its not too bad03:47
ryan_plus its nice you can still do work while its going03:48
ryan_depending on your system03:48
holsteinryan_: 12.04 is an LTS though... the kernel and the backbone ubuntu pacakges are lts03:48
ryan_definitely would like a darker theme03:49
ryan_is there anyway to hide the taskbar till you put your mouse down at the bottom?03:49
Unit193holstein: Pretty darn sure it doesn't take that long, though.03:50
ryan_I like having a very clean minimal desktop03:50
ryan_it can take a while though03:50
ryan_like maybe half the time03:50
holsteinUnit193: how long does it take you? the downloads i mean..03:50
holsteinit takes like 8 minutes to install03:51
Unit193Hrm, I don't remember, I'll tell you next April. :P03:51
ryan_ive really liked 12.04 of ubuntu overall03:51
ryan_so far the speed on lubuntu is nice03:52
holsteinUnit193: lol.. i'll have to try another one and see.. it was an ubuntustudio one last i tested.. but still03:52
holsteinryan_: ubuntu says they provide lts on 12.0403:52
holsteinit *is* lts.. lubuntu is not03:53
Unit193And that's the LXDE packages, sooo.03:53
holsteinstill, you can just install minimal ubuntu, and lxde and have ubuntu with lxde LTS03:53
ryan_right03:53
ryan_I just did lubuntu ill keep doing dist upgrade03:54
holsteinthe lubuntu team will not be fixing bugs that come in and backporting lubuntu specific stuff or whatever else03:54
Unit193LXDE will still not be updated.03:54
ryan_speaking of that anyone using 12.10?03:54
holsteini have a 12.10 install03:54
ryan_what you think so far?03:54
holsteinthe things that would be a security concern would be outside of lubuntu anyway03:55
ryan_ya im not too worried about it for the most part linux is really secured compared to M$03:55
holsteinryan_: its an ubuntustudio XFCE install.. very nice.. i think unity has some nice things in 12.10 worth upgrading03:55
holsteini'll run the 12.04 version03:55
Unit19312.10 has some kinks, as is expected after an LTS.03:56
ryan_so far so good03:56
ryan_I just hope I have really good compatibility with playonlinux/wine03:57
ryan_ubuntu with unity worked great so hopefully this will be even better03:57
Linux_Wombatwooo03:57
holsteini dont use anything thats not native anymore... nothing about linux is keeping any games from running on it03:57
Linux_Wombatwas kinda hopeful i could get it to work on my 64bit 12.10 install03:57
Linux_Wombatbut thats a very no go :D03:57
holsteinLinux_Wombat: it?03:58
Linux_Wombatsteam03:58
Linux_Wombatim Combat_Wombat except on my linux box instead of my windows one03:58
Linux_Wombathence the excitingly creative name change03:58
ryan_haha03:59
ryan_ok got nvidia proprietary drivers installed04:00
Linux_Wombatdont have it in me to reinstall on this box just got everything perfect so you will have to tell me all the fun and exciting stuff i am missing till they release a amd64 version04:02
Linux_Wombatplease dont overflow and kick me....04:03
Linux_Wombatdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of steam:04:03
Linux_Wombat steam depends on libjpeg-turbo8.04:03
Linux_Wombat steam depends on libcurl3-gnutls (>= 7.16.2-1).04:03
Linux_Wombat steam depends on libogg0 (>= 1.0rc3).04:03
Linux_Wombat steam depends on libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.24.4-1).04:03
Linux_Wombat steam depends on libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1).04:03
ryan_awww nooo04:04
Combat_Wombatoh well04:04
Combat_Wombatsuffice to say there were alot of package issues04:05
ryan_im trying to install it now04:10
ryan_is lubuntu multiarch?04:10
ryan_cool this can work04:11
ryan_OMG its working...04:12
Combat_Wombatnice04:12
ryan_well its installed im trying to launch it for the first time taking for ever04:12
ryan_ugh something about a font issue and color04:15
ryan_ugh04:26
Combat_Wombat?04:27
ryan_oh shit i got it going!04:27
ryan_steam is updating hell yes04:27
Combat_Wombatnice04:28
ryan_gonna get logged in soon04:35
ryan_damn it gotta install some bleeding edge drivers04:37
ryan_fun04:37
ryan_well crap i get in then kicked out04:38
ryan_grrr04:38
ryan_combat you got it working at all?04:45
Combat_Wombatno man i would need to install or livecd a 32-bit version04:45
Combat_Wombatdont have it in me tonight04:45
ryan_hmmm it installed fine for me just had to fix the font issue04:46
Combat_Wombatyou're on 64-bit?04:46
ryan_check out jakejw9304:46
ryan_yep!04:46
Combat_Wombathrm04:47
ryan_he has a youtube video on it04:47
Combat_Wombatwatching now04:47
Combat_Wombater nope that was a steam in wine video04:48
ryan_i got steam running!04:48
Combat_Wombathere we go04:49
Combat_Wombathttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19TzGmuo5Sg04:49
ryan_ya04:49
ryan_saweet big picture is working too04:51
Combat_Wombatheh ya thats not how the install goes for me :D04:52
ryan_installing world of goo demo04:54
Combat_Wombatheh the tv interface04:55
Combat_Wombathadnt seen that before04:55
Combat_Wombatwell if that isnt telling about where things are headed04:55
ryan_its awesome04:55
Combat_Wombatbut yeah that video wasnt so helpful :D04:55
ryan_there is a link talking about how to fix your issue I think you had dependency problems right?04:57
Combat_Wombatya04:58
Combat_Wombatoh didnt notice that just installing the i386 packages lets it work04:59
Combat_Wombatheh04:59
Combat_Wombatthanks im a moron04:59
ryan_well ya but you are running 64 bit too right?05:01
ryan_should be multiarch05:01
Linux_Wombatk05:15
Linux_Wombatcw@Streamer:~$ steam steam://open/games05:15
Linux_WombatILocalize::AddFile() failed to load file "public/steambootstrapper_english.txt".05:15
Linux_WombatX Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)05:15
Linux_Wombat  Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont)05:15
Linux_Wombat  Serial number of failed request:  1205:15
Linux_Wombat  Current serial number in output stream:  1305:15
Linux_Wombatseen that anywhere ryan_05:17
ryan_ya hangon ill tell you what to install05:21
ryan_sudo apt-get install xfonts-100dpi05:21
ryan_or before that try this05:21
ryan_wait!05:21
ryan_steam %u05:21
ryan_in terminal05:21
ryan_is it updating?05:22
Linux_Wombathrm05:23
Linux_Wombatnope05:23
Linux_Wombateven installed that font package05:23
ryan_ya i typed steam %U in terminal05:24
ryan_and it started updating05:24
ryan_er Steam %U05:24
ryan_cap sensitive perhaps05:24
Linux_Wombatcw@Streamer:~$ steam %U05:25
Linux_WombatILocalize::AddFile() failed to load file "public/steambootstrapper_english.txt".05:25
Linux_WombatX Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)05:25
Linux_Wombat  Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont)05:25
Linux_Wombat  Serial number of failed request:  1205:25
Linux_Wombat  Current serial number in output stream:  1305:25
Linux_Wombatcw@Streamer:~$ Steam %u05:26
Linux_WombatSteam: command not found05:26
ryan_and you just tried steam05:26
ryan_?05:26
Linux_Wombatsame thing05:27
ryan_hmmm not for sure why05:28
ryan_oh I did try it with sudo and let it update but didnt install it again05:30
ryan_then I re ran the steam command05:31
ryan_anyway I hope you get it going its pretty exciting05:31
ryan_I gotta finish my work and goto bed05:31
ryan_catch you all later!05:31
Unit193Linux_Wombat: Please do use pastebin.com05:33
Linux_Wombatif this was a happening channel i might05:33
Linux_Wombatbut no one elseis talking05:34
Linux_Wombatso meh05:34
Linux_Wombatk if anyone else has my problem05:38
Linux_Wombatafter you install the font package05:38
Linux_Wombatxset +fp /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi05:38
Linux_Wombatbecause x is stupid05:38
Linux_Wombatand then it will work05:39
bioterrorso05:46
bioterrorsteam was looking for experienced GNU/Linux users for their beta05:47
bioterrorand are we now going to do the support? :D05:47
Combat_Wombatgood idea who wants enthusiastic new users anyways05:56
Combat_Wombatlet em rot05:56
bigeyes0x0Hi there08:10
bigeyes0x0I'm having a problem with extended dual desktop with lubuntu 12.0408:11
bigeyes0x0as the two monitors have different resolutions, a window that is maximized or move close to another monitor08:11
bigeyes0x0got displayed partially on the other monitor too08:12
bigeyes0x0anyone knows how to fix it08:12
bigeyes0x0?08:12
bigeyes0x0I asked on lxde irc and they said to use a different window manager08:12
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genHello there, i've got a question.18:05
genI am running lubuntu 12.10 on an eeepc 1000h18:05
geni am looking for a way to map the silver buttons (above the keyboard)18:06
genI ran the command "showkey" and it showed the keycodes for the buttons18:07
genbut how do i map a command to these keycodes?18:07
holsteingen: have you tried any of the eee specific things? jupiter i think is one18:08
genafaik jupiter only has the ability to change cpufreq18:09
genon 10.04 i could use eee-control18:09
genhmm you seem to be right about jupiter18:11
genThank You18:11
holsteingen: its worth a look.. there are other eee tools in the repos too iirc18:13
holsteini have a few eee's, and i dont map the keyboard like i used to back in 10.0418:13
genhad terminal and xbmc mapped on these18:14
genwont miss this "feature" xD18:15
natanbHi20:50
natanbi need help for lubuntu ppc in a iMac G420:53
natanbwere the right place?20:53
genii-aroundProbably :-)20:56
kingfisher64is there anyway in lubuntu to be able to take a snapshot of a windows 7 system?20:59
holsteinkingfisher64: i would use clonezilla, or whatever commercial tool microsoft suggests21:00
kingfisher64does that support incremental backup holstein?21:00
holsteinkingfisher64: lemme put it this way... there is nothing about linux or lubuntu preventing microsoft from allowing it to make a snapshot of it21:00
holsteinkingfisher64: AFAIK, clonezilla doenot do that21:01
holsteinkingfisher64: i would look at a tool like back in time for windows, if there is such a thing21:01
kingfisher64i thought it didn't. I remember reading something about it not being supported yet21:01
holsteinkingfisher64: i dont think it will be supported.. its not really what clonezilla is about21:01
holsteinits more for what you asked.. a snaptshot21:02
holsteinsnapshot*21:02
kingfisher64the system running lubuntu is basically a backup device. 2tb hd with 2gb memory. It's a desktop someone gave me.21:02
holsteinhttp://www.bacula.org/en/21:03
holsteinhttp://clonezilla.org/21:03
holsteinhttp://www.altaro.com/home-pc-backup/time-machine-for-windows.php21:03
kingfisher64just tried freenas.org but it's not what i'm after21:03
holsteinkingfisher64: free nas is a nas... a destination for the backups you are taking about making21:04
kingfisher64brilliant but not what i'm after21:04
holsteinnas = network attached storage21:04
holsteinyou use backup software to backup to a nas if you want.. or an ssh share21:04
kingfisher64there's a zfs snapshot feature21:04
kingfisher64will try bacula21:05
holsteinbacula is overkill for what you want21:05
holsteinyou can read about its features though and get a more educated sentence that encompasses what you seek21:05
holsteinkingfisher64: i would take 30+ minutes and watch this http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/2649/linux-backup-roundup-the-linux-action-show-s13e04/21:06
holsteinyou are in fact not wanting a snapshot.. you are wanting encremental backups of a windows machine... the destination can be said linux box via ssh, samba, ftp.. etc21:07
kingfisher64i was curious if there was a tool within lubuntu which could basically read other network devices - in this case my laptop and create a snapshot of my laptop on lubuntu21:07
holsteinkingfisher64: sure21:07
holsteinkingfisher64: the question is, will windows support said tool?21:08
holsteinwe dont have a "backup your proprietary OS" button21:08
holsteinand i dont use the term "proprietary" derogatorily.. its just that we are not always allowed the access it takes21:09
kingfisher64eventually i'll just give up windows (only use it now because of old creative suite apps i use) - not supported in wine21:09
kingfisher64prefer ubuntu21:09
holsteini would try ubuntustudio or AVlinux.. see what the tools are doing that you need21:10
holsteinor use one of the tools above to backup, or one you learn about from that video i linked21:10
kingfisher64photoshop, illustrator, acrobat pro, livecycle designer21:10
holsteinor, virtualize windows inside ubuntu.. thats an easy way to make snapshots21:10
holsteinkingfisher64: sure, but those address workflows that can be addressed to some degree with open tools21:12
holsteini do audio production with FOSS tools on ubuntu and/or AVlinux21:12
kingfisher64gimp might replace photoshop but inkscape is horrible i'm afraid. It doesn't campare to illustrator. I use open source wherever I can - I think the quality in *nearly all cases is superior21:13
holsteini dont think its trying to compare to illustrator21:14
kingfisher64good job!!!21:14
holsteinit actually has some great tutorials in the help menu21:14
kingfisher64i've bookmarked bacula as there might be a future use case schenario21:14
holsteinkingfisher64: i find that i have no issues replacing tools for audio production21:14
holsteinand quite the opposite now.. i cant replace the tools i use with closed alternatives21:15
holsteinbut, you can use whatever OS you want... and whatever software you like21:15
kingfisher64i use everything open source except the 4 apps I mentioned above. nxclient being my fav21:16
holsteinkingfisher64: there is a nice subset of applications in the live D's ubuntustudio and avlinux21:16
holsteini think cmyk is what most folks miss21:16
holsteini think inkscape is brilliant21:17
holsteini know for me, it helped when i stopped expecting ardour to be protools, or cubase.. and i just started using the software21:17
holsteinyou might not be motivated to learn to switch.. or the tools may not have the workflow you prefer or the features you need..21:18
kingfisher64it's v buggy in my opinion unfortunately. The same with scribus in my experience. I'm not bothered about UI - that can be learnt or I could contribute to. It's the reliability issues.21:19
kingfisher64could be hardware support in scribus case21:19
kingfisher64eg, printer21:19
holsteinkingfisher64: sure, but woudnt it be great if you used these applications? and filed bugs?21:19
holsteinshared your concerns? helped with developement...21:19
kingfisher64bugs already filed.21:20
holsteini mean... im not saying you need to.. just that if we all did that, i think it would be noticable, and the quality would be better for all21:20
holsteinkingfisher64: we are always looking for users in this demo for ubuntustudio.. for testing and development21:21
kingfisher64can't disagree. Your preaching to the converted. Just have a thing for photoshop21:21
holsteinkingfisher64: sure, and you can have a thing for any of the software you choose.. im just offereing a scenario where you could help ubuntustudio attract user and developers to support your workflwo21:22
holsteinflow*21:22
holstein /j #ubuntustudio-devel sometime if you're interested21:22
miquel_ccHi, Can anyone help me with this trouble?: I have a fresh install of lubuntu and  it freezes in the lightdm (welcome screen): keyboard and mouse doesn't responds for a minute o so. I searched on inet but I didn't found anything related. Can anyone help me? Or any clue what I must check? Thanks21:22
holsteinim never sure if we need the tools or the users first.. but right now, we dont have users that even help us test these tools21:22
kingfisher64i'm looking now at http://ubuntustudio.org/21:22
holsteinmiquel_cc: i would try an older kernel if you just upgraded and it broke21:23
holstein!tty21:23
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution21:23
holstein^^ try that miquel_cc .. to see if the machine is locked up or if its just the graphics not reponding21:23
miquel_ccholstein, i can't change the tty, the computer is complelty freezed21:24
holsteinmiquel_cc: then i would look at an earlier kernel21:24
holsteinmiquel_cc: i would look at any hardware changes..21:24
kingfisher64you seem v knowledgeable holstein - from that assertion you wouldn't happen to know of another open source app to http://www.red5.org/ would you? I'm looking for a quality replacement for commercial http://www.wowza.com/21:25
miquel_ccI had ubuntu 12.04 before without any trouble, I will try to downgrade the kernel21:26
kingfisher64will create a vm and try ubuntustudio though. sounds v good21:26
miquel_ccbut if I wait patiently the minute, the system is working perfectlybut upon I waitted patienly this minute, the system is working perfectly21:27
miquel_cc(opps, sorry for the duplicate message)21:27
holsteinmiquel_cc: i would just try booting into an earlier one as a test21:27
holsteinkingfisher64: what does it do?21:27
holsteini stream content via ssh or whatever21:28
holsteinvlc is nice21:28
miquel_ccholstein, thank you . I will try the same kernel  i had in ubuntu 12.04. c u later.21:28
kingfisher64it enables a user to be able to record a video using their webcam to be saved into say a web signup profile21:29
holsteini would probably just stream the content.. but it depends on what you want, and how you want it to look, and what clients are expected21:29
holsteinkingfisher64: vlc, cheese.. not sure what its supposed to look like though21:29
holsteinthe ubuntu installer offeres to take a picture... that could just as easily be video.. maybe ask them how that is implemented21:31
kingfisher64thanks for your help though holstein. Especially the ubuntustudio link21:31
kingfisher64downloading the iso now for that21:31
holsteinkingfisher64: sure.. anytime!21:32
kingfisher64holstein++21:32
Unit193xnox: You online?21:53
xnoxUnit193: yes.21:54
Unit193xnox: Wasn't sure if you got the ndis question answered yet.21:55
xnoxUnit193: lubuntu dev merged the branch for me.21:55
xnoxUnit193: so, yes, I have =)21:55
Unit193Coolio.21:55

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