[00:05] Bonsoir. J'ai installé Lubuntu 12.04 et je n'ai pas l'icône du contrôle du volume. Est-ce normal ? [00:05] Et je n'entends rien [00:07] !fr [00:07] Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [00:07] Thanks :D [00:17] Unit193: he installed Lubuntu but has no volume icon [00:18] IdleOne: Alright, French channel will still be more helpful. [00:18] Unit193: probably right :) [01:00] hello. i am trying to install a package (mintconstructor) as seen here: http://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/mintconstructor. [01:00] and... [01:01] it's on lubuntu 12.10, using chromium. the link is apt://mintconstructor. when i click on it, i get a new blank chromium window. [01:01] i have tried to install software-center (USC), and i get the same result. [01:01] how can i download and install this package? [01:03] It's because that is a mint package, it isn't in the Ubuntu repos. [01:04] is it possible to shrink a mint iso in ubuntu, or am i just going to have to get a dvd disc? [01:15] from preliminary googling it looks like it's not possible. could i just get an older version of mint that is on cd, then download a newer mint on DVD and trim the ISO from there? [01:16] (on cd = 600MB, on dvd = 800MB) [01:17] Pretty sure you should be asking the mint channel... [01:18] !mint [01:18] Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [01:19] (Though, could unsquash the fs and resquash with xz compression) [03:31] has anyone here used the linux steam beta client on lubuntu? [03:31] wish i was in the beta :( [03:32] id imagine it would work though [03:35] combat_wombat checkout omgbuntu! website they have the link to dl the steam.deb file [03:35] or if you want i can send it to you [03:35] naw i can find it thanks for the tip [03:36] np [03:36] im hoping i can get it to work [03:36] i got too frustrated trying to get sound to work on a minimal ubuntu openbox install i was doing [03:36] waved the white flag and going to install lubuntu 12.04 [03:36] even though it doesnt have lts [03:37] but it seems dist upgrade is pretty good either way so [03:37] id use lubuntu for everything if i could and steam on linux may make it happen :) [03:38] ya [03:38] I just want to find a better task bar theme [03:39] I wanted to use crunchbang but I couldnt try the linux steam client on it...and torchlight 2 on steam through wine didnt work which it did on ubuntu [03:39] so does not having long term support really matter? [03:39] to a degree? Is it easy to just upgrade the distro without losing what you installed? [03:41] idk I always do a fresh install when i change versions [03:41] hopefully someone else will chime in [03:41] i do because its faster [03:42] Upgrades are faster for me. [03:42] Unit193: you do it with a downloaded iso? as the source? [03:42] holstein: Nope. [03:44] Unit193: how do you upgrade so quickly? [03:45] Download speeds aren't so bad, but if you factor in configure and uninstall/install of personal packages... [03:46] ya I did a dist upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and even though it said partial it still fixed itself [03:46] what about 12.04 not being long term support [03:46] alot of people complain about that [03:47] going to install statler openbox theme on lubuntu hopefully [03:47] Unit193: i should pay more attention to that detail, but still.. best case, i get an upgrade done in 5 hours [03:47] ya its not too bad [03:48] plus its nice you can still do work while its going [03:48] depending on your system [03:48] ryan_: 12.04 is an LTS though... the kernel and the backbone ubuntu pacakges are lts [03:49] definitely would like a darker theme [03:49] is there anyway to hide the taskbar till you put your mouse down at the bottom? [03:50] holstein: Pretty darn sure it doesn't take that long, though. [03:50] I like having a very clean minimal desktop [03:50] it can take a while though [03:50] like maybe half the time [03:50] Unit193: how long does it take you? the downloads i mean.. [03:51] it takes like 8 minutes to install [03:51] Hrm, I don't remember, I'll tell you next April. :P [03:51] ive really liked 12.04 of ubuntu overall [03:52] so far the speed on lubuntu is nice [03:52] Unit193: lol.. i'll have to try another one and see.. it was an ubuntustudio one last i tested.. but still [03:52] ryan_: ubuntu says they provide lts on 12.04 [03:53] it *is* lts.. lubuntu is not [03:53] And that's the LXDE packages, sooo. [03:53] still, you can just install minimal ubuntu, and lxde and have ubuntu with lxde LTS [03:53] right [03:54] I just did lubuntu ill keep doing dist upgrade [03:54] the lubuntu team will not be fixing bugs that come in and backporting lubuntu specific stuff or whatever else [03:54] LXDE will still not be updated. [03:54] speaking of that anyone using 12.10? [03:54] i have a 12.10 install [03:54] what you think so far? [03:55] the things that would be a security concern would be outside of lubuntu anyway [03:55] ya im not too worried about it for the most part linux is really secured compared to M$ [03:55] ryan_: its an ubuntustudio XFCE install.. very nice.. i think unity has some nice things in 12.10 worth upgrading [03:55] i'll run the 12.04 version [03:56] 12.10 has some kinks, as is expected after an LTS. [03:56] so far so good [03:57] I just hope I have really good compatibility with playonlinux/wine [03:57] ubuntu with unity worked great so hopefully this will be even better [03:57] wooo [03:57] i dont use anything thats not native anymore... nothing about linux is keeping any games from running on it [03:57] was kinda hopeful i could get it to work on my 64bit 12.10 install [03:57] but thats a very no go :D [03:58] Linux_Wombat: it? [03:58] steam [03:58] im Combat_Wombat except on my linux box instead of my windows one [03:58] hence the excitingly creative name change [03:59] haha [04:00] ok got nvidia proprietary drivers installed [04:02] dont have it in me to reinstall on this box just got everything perfect so you will have to tell me all the fun and exciting stuff i am missing till they release a amd64 version [04:03] please dont overflow and kick me.... [04:03] dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of steam: [04:03] steam depends on libjpeg-turbo8. [04:03] steam depends on libcurl3-gnutls (>= 7.16.2-1). [04:03] steam depends on libogg0 (>= 1.0rc3). [04:03] steam depends on libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.24.4-1). [04:03] steam depends on libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1). [04:04] awww nooo [04:04] oh well [04:05] suffice to say there were alot of package issues [04:10] im trying to install it now [04:10] is lubuntu multiarch? [04:11] cool this can work [04:12] OMG its working... [04:12] nice [04:12] well its installed im trying to launch it for the first time taking for ever [04:15] ugh something about a font issue and color [04:26] ugh [04:27] ? [04:27] oh shit i got it going! [04:27] steam is updating hell yes [04:28] nice [04:35] gonna get logged in soon [04:37] damn it gotta install some bleeding edge drivers [04:37] fun [04:38] well crap i get in then kicked out [04:38] grrr [04:45] combat you got it working at all? [04:45] no man i would need to install or livecd a 32-bit version [04:45] dont have it in me tonight [04:46] hmmm it installed fine for me just had to fix the font issue [04:46] you're on 64-bit? [04:46] check out jakejw93 [04:46] yep! [04:47] hrm [04:47] he has a youtube video on it [04:47] watching now [04:48] er nope that was a steam in wine video [04:48] i got steam running! [04:49] here we go [04:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19TzGmuo5Sg [04:49] ya [04:51] saweet big picture is working too [04:52] heh ya thats not how the install goes for me :D [04:54] installing world of goo demo [04:55] heh the tv interface [04:55] hadnt seen that before [04:55] well if that isnt telling about where things are headed [04:55] its awesome [04:55] but yeah that video wasnt so helpful :D [04:57] there is a link talking about how to fix your issue I think you had dependency problems right? [04:58] ya [04:59] oh didnt notice that just installing the i386 packages lets it work [04:59] heh [04:59] thanks im a moron [05:01] well ya but you are running 64 bit too right? [05:01] should be multiarch [05:15] k [05:15] cw@Streamer:~$ steam steam://open/games [05:15] ILocalize::AddFile() failed to load file "public/steambootstrapper_english.txt". [05:15] X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist) [05:15] Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) [05:15] Serial number of failed request: 12 [05:15] Current serial number in output stream: 13 [05:17] seen that anywhere ryan_ [05:21] ya hangon ill tell you what to install [05:21] sudo apt-get install xfonts-100dpi [05:21] or before that try this [05:21] wait! [05:21] steam %u [05:21] in terminal [05:22] is it updating? [05:23] hrm [05:23] nope [05:23] even installed that font package [05:24] ya i typed steam %U in terminal [05:24] and it started updating [05:24] er Steam %U [05:24] cap sensitive perhaps [05:25] cw@Streamer:~$ steam %U [05:25] ILocalize::AddFile() failed to load file "public/steambootstrapper_english.txt". [05:25] X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist) [05:25] Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) [05:25] Serial number of failed request: 12 [05:25] Current serial number in output stream: 13 [05:26] cw@Streamer:~$ Steam %u [05:26] Steam: command not found [05:26] and you just tried steam [05:26] ? [05:27] same thing [05:28] hmmm not for sure why [05:30] oh I did try it with sudo and let it update but didnt install it again [05:31] then I re ran the steam command [05:31] anyway I hope you get it going its pretty exciting [05:31] I gotta finish my work and goto bed [05:31] catch you all later! [05:33] Linux_Wombat: Please do use pastebin.com [05:33] if this was a happening channel i might [05:34] but no one elseis talking [05:34] so meh [05:38] k if anyone else has my problem [05:38] after you install the font package [05:38] xset +fp /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi [05:38] because x is stupid [05:39] and then it will work [05:46] so [05:47] steam was looking for experienced GNU/Linux users for their beta [05:47] and are we now going to do the support? :D [05:56] good idea who wants enthusiastic new users anyways [05:56] let em rot [08:10] Hi there [08:11] I'm having a problem with extended dual desktop with lubuntu 12.04 [08:11] as the two monitors have different resolutions, a window that is maximized or move close to another monitor [08:12] got displayed partially on the other monitor too [08:12] anyone knows how to fix it [08:12] ? [08:12] I asked on lxde irc and they said to use a different window manager === redderhs1 is now known as redderhs [18:05] Hello there, i've got a question. [18:05] I am running lubuntu 12.10 on an eeepc 1000h [18:06] i am looking for a way to map the silver buttons (above the keyboard) [18:07] I ran the command "showkey" and it showed the keycodes for the buttons [18:07] but how do i map a command to these keycodes? [18:08] gen: have you tried any of the eee specific things? jupiter i think is one [18:09] afaik jupiter only has the ability to change cpufreq [18:09] on 10.04 i could use eee-control [18:11] hmm you seem to be right about jupiter [18:11] Thank You [18:13] gen: its worth a look.. there are other eee tools in the repos too iirc [18:13] i have a few eee's, and i dont map the keyboard like i used to back in 10.04 [18:14] had terminal and xbmc mapped on these [18:15] wont miss this "feature" xD [20:50] Hi [20:53] i need help for lubuntu ppc in a iMac G4 [20:53] were the right place? [20:56] Probably :-) [20:59] is there anyway in lubuntu to be able to take a snapshot of a windows 7 system? [21:00] kingfisher64: i would use clonezilla, or whatever commercial tool microsoft suggests [21:00] does that support incremental backup holstein? [21:00] kingfisher64: lemme put it this way... there is nothing about linux or lubuntu preventing microsoft from allowing it to make a snapshot of it [21:01] kingfisher64: AFAIK, clonezilla doenot do that [21:01] kingfisher64: i would look at a tool like back in time for windows, if there is such a thing [21:01] i thought it didn't. I remember reading something about it not being supported yet [21:01] kingfisher64: i dont think it will be supported.. its not really what clonezilla is about [21:02] its more for what you asked.. a snaptshot [21:02] snapshot* [21:02] the system running lubuntu is basically a backup device. 2tb hd with 2gb memory. It's a desktop someone gave me. [21:03] http://www.bacula.org/en/ [21:03] http://clonezilla.org/ [21:03] http://www.altaro.com/home-pc-backup/time-machine-for-windows.php [21:03] just tried freenas.org but it's not what i'm after [21:04] kingfisher64: free nas is a nas... a destination for the backups you are taking about making [21:04] brilliant but not what i'm after [21:04] nas = network attached storage [21:04] you use backup software to backup to a nas if you want.. or an ssh share [21:04] there's a zfs snapshot feature [21:05] will try bacula [21:05] bacula is overkill for what you want [21:05] you can read about its features though and get a more educated sentence that encompasses what you seek [21:06] kingfisher64: i would take 30+ minutes and watch this http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/2649/linux-backup-roundup-the-linux-action-show-s13e04/ [21:07] you are in fact not wanting a snapshot.. you are wanting encremental backups of a windows machine... the destination can be said linux box via ssh, samba, ftp.. etc [21:07] i was curious if there was a tool within lubuntu which could basically read other network devices - in this case my laptop and create a snapshot of my laptop on lubuntu [21:07] kingfisher64: sure [21:08] kingfisher64: the question is, will windows support said tool? [21:08] we dont have a "backup your proprietary OS" button [21:09] and i dont use the term "proprietary" derogatorily.. its just that we are not always allowed the access it takes [21:09] eventually i'll just give up windows (only use it now because of old creative suite apps i use) - not supported in wine [21:09] prefer ubuntu [21:10] i would try ubuntustudio or AVlinux.. see what the tools are doing that you need [21:10] or use one of the tools above to backup, or one you learn about from that video i linked [21:10] photoshop, illustrator, acrobat pro, livecycle designer [21:10] or, virtualize windows inside ubuntu.. thats an easy way to make snapshots [21:12] kingfisher64: sure, but those address workflows that can be addressed to some degree with open tools [21:12] i do audio production with FOSS tools on ubuntu and/or AVlinux [21:13] gimp might replace photoshop but inkscape is horrible i'm afraid. It doesn't campare to illustrator. I use open source wherever I can - I think the quality in *nearly all cases is superior [21:14] i dont think its trying to compare to illustrator [21:14] good job!!! [21:14] it actually has some great tutorials in the help menu [21:14] i've bookmarked bacula as there might be a future use case schenario [21:14] kingfisher64: i find that i have no issues replacing tools for audio production [21:15] and quite the opposite now.. i cant replace the tools i use with closed alternatives [21:15] but, you can use whatever OS you want... and whatever software you like [21:16] i use everything open source except the 4 apps I mentioned above. nxclient being my fav [21:16] kingfisher64: there is a nice subset of applications in the live D's ubuntustudio and avlinux [21:16] i think cmyk is what most folks miss [21:17] i think inkscape is brilliant [21:17] i know for me, it helped when i stopped expecting ardour to be protools, or cubase.. and i just started using the software [21:18] you might not be motivated to learn to switch.. or the tools may not have the workflow you prefer or the features you need.. [21:19] it's v buggy in my opinion unfortunately. The same with scribus in my experience. I'm not bothered about UI - that can be learnt or I could contribute to. It's the reliability issues. [21:19] could be hardware support in scribus case [21:19] eg, printer [21:19] kingfisher64: sure, but woudnt it be great if you used these applications? and filed bugs? [21:19] shared your concerns? helped with developement... [21:20] bugs already filed. [21:20] i mean... im not saying you need to.. just that if we all did that, i think it would be noticable, and the quality would be better for all [21:21] kingfisher64: we are always looking for users in this demo for ubuntustudio.. for testing and development [21:21] can't disagree. Your preaching to the converted. Just have a thing for photoshop [21:22] kingfisher64: sure, and you can have a thing for any of the software you choose.. im just offereing a scenario where you could help ubuntustudio attract user and developers to support your workflwo [21:22] flow* [21:22] /j #ubuntustudio-devel sometime if you're interested [21:22] Hi, Can anyone help me with this trouble?: I have a fresh install of lubuntu and it freezes in the lightdm (welcome screen): keyboard and mouse doesn't responds for a minute o so. I searched on inet but I didn't found anything related. Can anyone help me? Or any clue what I must check? Thanks [21:22] im never sure if we need the tools or the users first.. but right now, we dont have users that even help us test these tools [21:22] i'm looking now at http://ubuntustudio.org/ [21:23] miquel_cc: i would try an older kernel if you just upgraded and it broke [21:23] !tty [21:23] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [21:23] ^^ try that miquel_cc .. to see if the machine is locked up or if its just the graphics not reponding [21:24] holstein, i can't change the tty, the computer is complelty freezed [21:24] miquel_cc: then i would look at an earlier kernel [21:24] miquel_cc: i would look at any hardware changes.. [21:25] you seem v knowledgeable holstein - from that assertion you wouldn't happen to know of another open source app to http://www.red5.org/ would you? I'm looking for a quality replacement for commercial http://www.wowza.com/ [21:26] I had ubuntu 12.04 before without any trouble, I will try to downgrade the kernel [21:26] will create a vm and try ubuntustudio though. sounds v good [21:27] but if I wait patiently the minute, the system is working perfectlybut upon I waitted patienly this minute, the system is working perfectly [21:27] (opps, sorry for the duplicate message) [21:27] miquel_cc: i would just try booting into an earlier one as a test [21:27] kingfisher64: what does it do? [21:28] i stream content via ssh or whatever [21:28] vlc is nice [21:28] holstein, thank you . I will try the same kernel i had in ubuntu 12.04. c u later. [21:29] it enables a user to be able to record a video using their webcam to be saved into say a web signup profile [21:29] i would probably just stream the content.. but it depends on what you want, and how you want it to look, and what clients are expected [21:29] kingfisher64: vlc, cheese.. not sure what its supposed to look like though [21:31] the ubuntu installer offeres to take a picture... that could just as easily be video.. maybe ask them how that is implemented [21:31] thanks for your help though holstein. Especially the ubuntustudio link [21:31] downloading the iso now for that [21:32] kingfisher64: sure.. anytime! [21:32] holstein++ [21:53] xnox: You online? [21:54] Unit193: yes. [21:55] xnox: Wasn't sure if you got the ndis question answered yet. [21:55] Unit193: lubuntu dev merged the branch for me. [21:55] Unit193: so, yes, I have =) [21:55] Coolio.