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dholbachgood morning07:48
Noskcajmorning07:55
Noskcajas always evening for me07:55
pittihey dholbach08:00
dholbachhi pitti08:03
Noskcajguys the xubuntu daily is messed up, all partitioning is gone08:26
Noskcajbug 1076907 needs triaging08:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 1076907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No partitioning in raring daily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107690708:40
TheLordOfTimeyou mean it needs to be set as "Triaged" ?08:42
pittibefore doing that, some dev actually needs to triage it :)08:42
TheLordOfTimei was about to say that :p08:43
* TheLordOfTime may not be on the QA team, but he's seen a few QA team bugs to know that some dev needs to do something with it first before it gets triaged :P08:43
* TheLordOfTime returns to lurking08:43
persiaTheLordOfTime: What?  Why?  When I started triaging bugs in Ubuntu, I didn't do any development: just research on the bugs, and ended up with lots of devs asking me which bugs could be fixed easily during the scheduled bugfixing days.08:46
Noskcajand can people please stop saying quantal was a success08:46
TheLordOfTimeNoskcaj, can you stop the qq about quantal?08:46
Noskcajok?08:46
Noskcaji get 5 errors a day and the unity launcher doesn;t without pressing super unless i use the dev nvidia driver and then i get more bugs08:47
TheLordOfTime"please stop saying quantal was a success"  i only find LTSes to be a success.08:47
Noskcajtrue08:47
TheLordOfTimebut i've run quantal *without issue* on several testing systems.08:47
TheLordOfTimeso the saying "its just you" tends to ppop into my brain :P08:47
TheLordOfTimegranted my testing systems are *ancient*08:47
* TheLordOfTime also doesn't use nvidia :P08:47
TheLordOfTimeand actually...08:48
TheLordOfTimei'08:48
Noskcajyeah, its only one mobile series that has that problem08:48
TheLordOfTimeve seen a few users have no issues with nvidia systems.08:48
Noskcajbut sooooooooooooooooo anoying08:48
TheLordOfTimenone of them are on their mobile chipsets though.08:48
TheLordOfTimeannoying maybe.  whining worthy?  no.  this is what blogs are for though, so if you want to whine, whine in a blog.08:49
TheLordOfTime... ooops i broke something on my server...08:49
TheLordOfTime*walks the 5 feet ot his server to fix it*08:49
Noskcajwhy have we got this link in the website when nothing shows in it http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/32/manifest09:27
Noskcajbye09:27
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Noskcaji have been kicked from the mailing list19:12
phillwNoskcaj: ??19:39
Noskcaj phillw: working now, it was just temporary19:39
Noskcajcan we add netboot to testdrive somehow?19:39
phillwNoskcaj: I saw the request on the mailing list, balloons should catch it and answer when he has time.... Things are a bit hectic at the moment!19:41
balloonsI can answer now on IRC :-)19:41
phillwaha! speak of the devil :)19:41
balloonsadding something to testdrive would require code changes.. in other words, a developer19:41
phillwballoons: and apart from "more chance of hell freezing over", what are the chances?19:43
balloonsno idea.. I don't think testdrive is dev'd anymore sadly19:44
Noskcaj:(19:45
Noskcajthen why did they leave "other" in?19:45
phillwI confess to knowing of testdrive.19:45
phillw*knowing NOTHING of*19:46
Noskcajbut ERMAGUD balloons is active on irc again19:46
balloonslet's look it up19:46
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/testdrive19:46
balloonshttps://code.launchpad.net/~testdrive/testdrive/trunk19:47
balloonsthere is life there19:47
phillwballoons: indeed https://launchpad.net/testdrive shows it to be active :)19:48
balloonsthat said, it's just python.. probably could be done easily enough19:48
balloonsmake a request there19:48
Noskcajok19:48
phillwI use KVM, but that's coz that is what I was trained on using :)19:48
Noskcaji use vbox via testdrive19:49
phillwIt seems that KVM is what people move onto after using virtual box :)19:49
phillwif you apt-get install virtual-manager it will pull everything in (including the stuff we need to emulate PPC).19:50
phillwbut, it is 64 Bit only.19:51
balloonsyes.. testdrive gives you zsyn19:51
balloons*zsync19:51
balloonsbut you can use zsync by itself19:51
phillwballoons: it always catches me out each new install :D I go zsync... blah blah blah.... computer says "maybe you should install it 1st" :P19:52
phillwballoons: and on a totally different topic, just how much testing do you want for a usb device to be working? I've now got a horrendous list of creating / copying / deleting files between 'host' and 'usb device'. Do you want them all documented as the 'mother of all usb interaction' or just a quick simple test case?19:55
balloonsahh19:56
balloonson the manual testing front I think it's better to go for things that can't be automated19:56
balloonsso don't test every iteration in the manual testcase19:56
balloonskeep it simple :-)19:56
phillwsimple sounds good :D19:57
NoskcajBug #107715819:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 1077158 in TestDrive "Other is an empty tab in Testdrive, should have netboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107715819:57
phillwthe automated test case will be a horror of every possible variation I can think up!19:57
phillwbut, ideally suited for automated testing :)19:58
balloonsyes ideed phillw20:03
Noskcajare there meant to be release notes in the dailies?20:06
balloonsNoskcaj, ?20:08
balloonsyou meant the notice for release notes?20:08
Noskcaja link20:08
balloonsif so, yea.. everything will be quantal for a long time20:08
Noskcajthere is no link at all20:09
phillwNoskcaj: do not expect such things until we hit cadence testing :)20:23
Noskcajphillw: ok20:27
phillwballoons: is http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/testcases/1343/info okay? I don't want to, in a simple test case, go through all the stuff in the file handling test case of deleteng stuff20:27
balloonsphillw, looks good20:27
balloonsit's nice basic and simple..20:28
phillwNoskcaj: there will be weekly meetings held, where the flavours are asked to fill in a quick report.20:28
Noskcajok20:28
phillwballoons: as long as we can copy to and from the usb device, that should be enough :)20:28
balloonsphillw, yes I agree20:28
phillwnext up, my nemesis... samba connectivity =-O20:29
phillwthis may take a while as I've got to install tasksel, then a samba server :P20:31
phillwballoons: does Canonical have a samba server set up for testing / connectivity?20:32
balloonssamba server?20:34
balloonslol.. I don't know if there are specific samba tests20:34
phillwas the likes of Nautilus / PCManFM can connect to via samba, not sure how to phrase up a "connect to xyz" to ensure it is working?20:35
Noskcajballoons: you put the wrong links on the ppc netboot20:36
balloonsNoskcaj, ohh?20:36
balloonslet's fix them!20:36
phillwI certainly cannot expect a tester to install a samba server... I'll let you and nosk go edit the test case, I'll go and seek advice :)20:37
Noskcajyou need to put "current" instead 20102187ubuntu18620:37
balloonsNoskcaj, no no.. it should be correct20:37
balloonsit is automagic20:37
Noskcajoh, nevermind then20:37
Noskcaji thought you had to manually update20:38
balloonsthe "downloads" work a bit differently and they have some setup20:38
balloonsno it's automated ;-)20:38
Noskcajjust put http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/raring/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/mini.iso in instead20:38
Noskcajguys, testdrive thinks ubuntu came out in 197020:40
balloonshehe.. that's unix start epoch time20:40
Noskcajnevermind its fixed20:40
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Noskcajturns out testdrive changes the cache time to unix start epoch time after you turn off the vm20:59

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