[07:48] good morning [07:55] morning [07:55] as always evening for me [08:00] hey dholbach [08:03] hi pitti [08:26] guys the xubuntu daily is messed up, all partitioning is gone [08:40] bug 1076907 needs triaging [08:40] Launchpad bug 1076907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No partitioning in raring daily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076907 [08:42] you mean it needs to be set as "Triaged" ? [08:42] before doing that, some dev actually needs to triage it :) [08:43] i was about to say that :p [08:43] * TheLordOfTime may not be on the QA team, but he's seen a few QA team bugs to know that some dev needs to do something with it first before it gets triaged :P [08:43] * TheLordOfTime returns to lurking [08:46] TheLordOfTime: What? Why? When I started triaging bugs in Ubuntu, I didn't do any development: just research on the bugs, and ended up with lots of devs asking me which bugs could be fixed easily during the scheduled bugfixing days. [08:46] and can people please stop saying quantal was a success [08:46] Noskcaj, can you stop the qq about quantal? [08:46] ok? [08:47] i get 5 errors a day and the unity launcher doesn;t without pressing super unless i use the dev nvidia driver and then i get more bugs [08:47] "please stop saying quantal was a success" i only find LTSes to be a success. [08:47] true [08:47] but i've run quantal *without issue* on several testing systems. [08:47] so the saying "its just you" tends to ppop into my brain :P [08:47] granted my testing systems are *ancient* [08:47] * TheLordOfTime also doesn't use nvidia :P [08:48] and actually... [08:48] i' [08:48] yeah, its only one mobile series that has that problem [08:48] ve seen a few users have no issues with nvidia systems. [08:48] but sooooooooooooooooo anoying [08:48] none of them are on their mobile chipsets though. [08:49] annoying maybe. whining worthy? no. this is what blogs are for though, so if you want to whine, whine in a blog. [08:49] ... ooops i broke something on my server... [08:49] *walks the 5 feet ot his server to fix it* [09:27] why have we got this link in the website when nothing shows in it http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/32/manifest [09:27] bye === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === _salem is now known as salem_ === victorp_ is now known as victorp === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === brendand_ is now known as brendand === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:12] i have been kicked from the mailing list [19:39] Noskcaj: ?? [19:39] phillw: working now, it was just temporary [19:39] can we add netboot to testdrive somehow? [19:41] Noskcaj: I saw the request on the mailing list, balloons should catch it and answer when he has time.... Things are a bit hectic at the moment! [19:41] I can answer now on IRC :-) [19:41] aha! speak of the devil :) [19:41] adding something to testdrive would require code changes.. in other words, a developer [19:43] balloons: and apart from "more chance of hell freezing over", what are the chances? [19:44] no idea.. I don't think testdrive is dev'd anymore sadly [19:45] :( [19:45] then why did they leave "other" in? [19:45] I confess to knowing of testdrive. [19:46] *knowing NOTHING of* [19:46] but ERMAGUD balloons is active on irc again [19:46] let's look it up [19:46] https://launchpad.net/testdrive [19:47] https://code.launchpad.net/~testdrive/testdrive/trunk [19:47] there is life there [19:48] balloons: indeed https://launchpad.net/testdrive shows it to be active :) [19:48] that said, it's just python.. probably could be done easily enough [19:48] make a request there [19:48] ok [19:48] I use KVM, but that's coz that is what I was trained on using :) [19:49] i use vbox via testdrive [19:49] It seems that KVM is what people move onto after using virtual box :) [19:50] if you apt-get install virtual-manager it will pull everything in (including the stuff we need to emulate PPC). [19:51] but, it is 64 Bit only. [19:51] yes.. testdrive gives you zsyn [19:51] *zsync [19:51] but you can use zsync by itself [19:52] balloons: it always catches me out each new install :D I go zsync... blah blah blah.... computer says "maybe you should install it 1st" :P [19:55] balloons: and on a totally different topic, just how much testing do you want for a usb device to be working? I've now got a horrendous list of creating / copying / deleting files between 'host' and 'usb device'. Do you want them all documented as the 'mother of all usb interaction' or just a quick simple test case? [19:56] ahh [19:56] on the manual testing front I think it's better to go for things that can't be automated [19:56] so don't test every iteration in the manual testcase [19:56] keep it simple :-) [19:57] simple sounds good :D [19:57] Bug #1077158 [19:57] Launchpad bug 1077158 in TestDrive "Other is an empty tab in Testdrive, should have netboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077158 [19:57] the automated test case will be a horror of every possible variation I can think up! [19:58] but, ideally suited for automated testing :) [20:03] yes ideed phillw [20:06] are there meant to be release notes in the dailies? [20:08] Noskcaj, ? [20:08] you meant the notice for release notes? [20:08] a link [20:08] if so, yea.. everything will be quantal for a long time [20:09] there is no link at all [20:23] Noskcaj: do not expect such things until we hit cadence testing :) [20:27] phillw: ok [20:27] balloons: is http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/testcases/1343/info okay? I don't want to, in a simple test case, go through all the stuff in the file handling test case of deleteng stuff [20:27] phillw, looks good [20:28] it's nice basic and simple.. [20:28] Noskcaj: there will be weekly meetings held, where the flavours are asked to fill in a quick report. [20:28] ok [20:28] balloons: as long as we can copy to and from the usb device, that should be enough :) [20:28] phillw, yes I agree [20:29] next up, my nemesis... samba connectivity =-O [20:31] this may take a while as I've got to install tasksel, then a samba server :P [20:32] balloons: does Canonical have a samba server set up for testing / connectivity? [20:34] samba server? [20:34] lol.. I don't know if there are specific samba tests [20:35] as the likes of Nautilus / PCManFM can connect to via samba, not sure how to phrase up a "connect to xyz" to ensure it is working? [20:36] balloons: you put the wrong links on the ppc netboot [20:36] Noskcaj, ohh? [20:36] let's fix them! [20:37] I certainly cannot expect a tester to install a samba server... I'll let you and nosk go edit the test case, I'll go and seek advice :) [20:37] you need to put "current" instead 20102187ubuntu186 [20:37] Noskcaj, no no.. it should be correct [20:37] it is automagic [20:37] oh, nevermind then [20:38] i thought you had to manually update [20:38] the "downloads" work a bit differently and they have some setup [20:38] no it's automated ;-) [20:38] just put http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/raring/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/mini.iso in instead [20:40] guys, testdrive thinks ubuntu came out in 1970 [20:40] hehe.. that's unix start epoch time [20:40] nevermind its fixed === salem_ is now known as _salem [20:59] turns out testdrive changes the cache time to unix start epoch time after you turn off the vm