| slangasek | blkperl: hey, what's the schedule look like for the 30th? | 00:10 |
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| blkperl | slangasek: checking now | 00:10 |
| blkperl | slangasek: open | 00:11 |
| slangasek | well, er | 00:11 |
| slangasek | I mean: what time am I supposed to be somewhere and talking :) | 00:11 |
| slangasek | if we're still on for that? | 00:11 |
| blkperl | slangasek: 4pm @ PSU Fab 86-01 | 00:11 |
| slangasek | ok | 00:11 |
| blkperl | slangasek: I need a bio, title and small summary of your talk :) | 00:12 |
| slangasek | hmmm do you have the first two of those from last time? | 00:12 |
| slangasek | or the first one | 00:12 |
| blkperl | right... let me find that | 00:13 |
| blkperl | success i have it | 00:13 |
| blkperl | slangasek: alright so I just need a Topic and Summary | 00:14 |
| slangasek | topic wuz "Secure Boot and Linux" | 00:14 |
| slangasek | summary I'll send along :) | 00:14 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: oh so we will finally have a expert talk about Secure Boot in Portland :) | 00:15 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: ping me the calagator link when its done | 00:16 |
| slangasek | have there been non-experts talking? | 00:16 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: idk is Vincent Zimmer, Intel a expert on Secure Boot on Linux? | 00:19 |
| slangasek | he might be? :) | 00:19 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: he has a lot of patents... looks like well over 50 | 00:20 |
| bkerensa | :P | 00:20 |
| slangasek | oh right, he's the one who gave the PLUG talk that I missed | 00:22 |
| slangasek | anyway, my notes say that yes, he is a Secure Boot expert ;) | 00:23 |
| blkperl | bkerensa: might not be open to the public, we will see | 00:25 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: not for me :) I will be on vacation still probably | 00:33 |
| bkerensa | hi dogweather | 01:44 |
| dogweather | Hey, how's it going? | 01:44 |
| bkerensa | dogweather: good :) just studying composting :) | 02:21 |
| dogweather | Interesting. Trying to fix the desktop? | 02:23 |
| bkerensa | dogweather: no :) trying to fix the abundance of leaves that keep dropping on my driveway :) | 02:43 |
| dogweather | Ah HAH. Composting, no compositing. | 02:45 |
| cy1 | bkerensa: I been composting for years! It's really fun. | 03:05 |
| dogweather | I'm working on yet another "awesome idea for a website". Sometimes I think I'm out of control. | 03:44 |
| bkerensa | cy1: what do you use as accelerator? | 03:52 |
| cy1 | bkerensa: ...patience? | 04:03 |
| bkerensa | cy1: my tree does not permit patience | 04:03 |
| bkerensa | :) | 04:03 |
| bkerensa | sugar and potatoes FTW | 04:04 |
| cy1 | bkerensa: I compost away from trees. | 04:04 |
| blkperl | slangasek: have you sent the summary along yet? | 18:37 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: for some reason submittodebian adds +Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> | 20:57 |
| bkerensa | +XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Nicolas Bertolissio <nico.bertol@free.fr> | 20:57 |
| bkerensa | to 1 out of 5 patches it send to debian | 20:57 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 20:57 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: I assume if I was doing my work in a debian chroot I would not run into this? | 20:58 |
| slangasek | bkerensa: are you sure that change isn't in the tree? Because Ubuntu policy requires that change to the maintainer field in packages whose source is modified in Ubuntu; the 'update-maintainer' script exists to streamline that exact change | 20:59 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: I am totally sure... it keeps assuming the fix is landing in Ubuntu for every few patches I send up and adds those fields | 21:00 |
| bkerensa | :P | 21:00 |
| slangasek | bkerensa: I filed a bug against ubuntu-dev-tools a while ago asking for maintainer field changes to be automatically stripped out of diffs by submittodebian... I thought that got fixed, but maybe there are still bugs | 21:00 |
| bkerensa | ok | 21:00 |
| bkerensa | yeah that and the template are driving me nuts :) its a great tool but a bit touchy | 21:00 |
| slangasek | bkerensa: er, I can see no reason at all that submittodebian would be *adding* such a change to the diff it sends | 21:00 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 21:01 |
| bkerensa | exactly | 21:01 |
| slangasek | are you *really* sure it's not in your local tree? | 21:01 |
| bkerensa | 100% | 21:01 |
| slangasek | blkperl: haven't sent it yet... can do today-ish... email I should send it to? | 21:01 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: 100% the only change I am making is to the control file to add a single depends... nothing is being changed except depends line | 21:01 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: blkperl@cat.pdx.edu | 21:02 |
| slangasek | bkerensa: what version of ubuntu-dev-tools are you using? | 21:03 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: 0.143ubuntu0.1 | 21:04 |
| slangasek | so, I have that here, and submittodebian definitely doesn't contain any code to add update-maintainer-esque changes | 21:04 |
| slangasek | so I think that change really is present in the tree you're running it from | 21:05 |
| bkerensa | but we dont even have the packages I'm working on in Ubuntu | 21:05 |
| bkerensa | :s | 21:05 |
| bkerensa | at least in the last case I ran into | 21:05 |
| bkerensa | hmm | 21:06 |
| bkerensa | ok I will look a bit more | 21:06 |
| slangasek | bkerensa: so maybe this is the issue you're seeing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1021917 | 21:13 |
| lubotu1 | Launchpad bug 1021917 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "[submittodebian]'s update-maintainer reversal isn't always the right thing to do" [Undecided,New] | 21:13 |
| slangasek | which suggests that my previous bug report about this *was* closed, even though I'm not seeing it in the code | 21:13 |
| slangasek | oh, there it is: from ubuntutools.update_maintainer import update_maintainer, restore_maintainer | 21:13 |
| slangasek | so yeah, bug in submittodebian of some sort | 21:13 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: I just did a screencast with a fresh source package | 21:14 |
| bkerensa | submittodebian is definately adding changes | 21:14 |
| bkerensa | :x | 21:14 |
| slangasek | yep, per the above | 21:14 |
| bkerensa | oh ok | 21:14 |
| slangasek | so the right fix here would be for submittodebian to unapply update-maintainer changes in both the source and target versions | 21:15 |
| bkerensa | +1 | 21:15 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: so until thats fixed if I just did my fixes in debian chroot would it still make add those changes? | 21:17 |
| slangasek | bkerensa: I wouldn't expect that to make any difference | 21:18 |
| bkerensa | ok | 21:19 |
| blkperl | slangasek: what bkerensa said :) | 23:09 |
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