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Kilosmorning everybody04:44
psydroidmorning Kilos04:53
psydroidyou get up earlier and earlier04:53
Kiloslol hi psydroid 05:00
Squirmmorning05:47
Kiloshi Squirm 05:48
Superhumanmorning Kilos, Squirm & psydroid05:58
Kilosohi Superhuman 05:58
Kilosmorning superfly 05:58
psydroidmorning Superhuman05:59
psydroidhi superfly05:59
Kiloslo inetpro 05:59
psydroidhi Squirm05:59
superflymorning Kilos, Superhuman, Squirm and psydroid!06:00
Superhumanaweh superfly!06:00
superflySuperhuman: another bun in the oven, eh?06:00
SuperhumanJip!06:01
superflyawesomesauce06:01
SuperhumanBun almost ready to get out... +- 90 days to go06:01
Kiloswow nearly min dae06:01
Kilosoh you guys dont know army chat06:02
Kilosi gonna give you 40 days06:02
superflyKilos: I *always* hear about min dae06:02
Kilosit was when you got to the last 40 days of your comp army service superfly 06:03
Kilosafter 9 months my time then 18 months then 2 years i think later call ups did06:06
Kilosyo Cantide 06:06
Kiloswhats news06:06
Cantidehey Kilos '-'06:06
Superhumanaweh Cantide06:07
Cantidehi Superhuman :p06:07
CantideKilos, exam today06:08
Cantideso i have the day off '-'06:08
Cantidewhat about you?06:08
Kilosgood luck laddy06:08
Cantidethanks :)06:08
Kilosim goodish ty06:08
Cantideand thanks for the 3G autoconnect workaround :)06:09
Cantidei haven't tested it out yet06:09
Cantidei think i'm going to go back to 12.04 :<06:09
Kilosnp06:10
Kilos12.04 isnt bad. ill still get to 12.10 when cds arrive06:10
Cantidehmm06:10
Cantidei'm not sure if it's 12.10 or just my PC, but it keeps crashing06:11
Kilossome peeps say its way faster than 12.04 and others say its slower so i gotta see for myself06:11
Cantideespecially when browsing pages with flash or playing video06:11
Kilosai that sucks06:11
Cantideyeah :-S06:11
Kiloshow much ram you got?06:11
Cantideso back to 12.04 i shall go, but in a month's time :)06:11
SuperhumanCantide: Try a fresh install of 12.10...might be residual configs/packages that are causing that...06:12
CantideSuperhuman, true - i did do an upgrade06:12
Cantideor i will wait for 13.0406:12
Kilos13.04 isnt lts06:12
Cantidei will be doing a fresh install anyway, because i plan on getting an SSD soonish06:12
SuperhumanI know my Thunderbird is giving me major uphill because it has been upgraded since 08.1006:13
CantideKilos, I don't care too much about LTS06:13
Kiloslong term support06:13
Cantideoh.. I use Thunderbird every day, and it works well for me :)06:13
CantideKilos, I know :p06:13
Kilos5 years if im not mistook06:13
Cantideyup06:13
Kilosevolution much better than thunderbird06:13
SuperhumanThe base email files are way old...and need to be freshly done...06:13
CantideLTS doesn't really make a difference to me, although they do seem more stable06:14
Cantideand stability is the reason i want to go back to 12.0406:14
SuperhumanKilos: I have about 1 million emails in Thunderbird. Company requires that we keep ALL emails, and I've been here 4 years06:14
Cantideanyhow, i will decide after i get some new hardware06:14
Kilosi just purged thunderbirc and install evo and did a mail backup from maverick and it runs well06:15
CantideSuperhuman, wow... okay, that's WAY more than me06:15
Cantidei use it at home - wish i could use it at work06:15
Kilosouch Superhuman 06:15
CantideKilos, for some reason i've always liked Thunderbird06:16
Cantideand for some other reason I've never liked Evolution :-S06:16
Kiloseeeek06:16
Kiloslo SmilyBorg_w 06:16
Kilosyou watched too much tv as a kid Cantide 06:16
Cantidehahaha06:17
Kiloshehe06:17
Cantidewhat does TV have to do with choice of email client?06:17
Cantideand no, i barely watch TV :p06:17
Kilosbrainwashed06:17
Cantidelol06:17
Kilosnow yes06:17
Cantidepersonal preference :)06:17
Cantideeven then... i don't recall watching much other than Gummy Bears and The Simpsons06:17
Kilosits a known fact tv is the most effective brainwashing tool out06:18
Cantidehaha06:18
Kiloshehe06:18
Cantideunless you select what you watch :p06:18
Cantidethe internet <306:18
CantideTV is going to change soon anyway06:18
CantideSmart TVs will allow us to select content from the internet06:18
Kilosto what06:18
Kiloseish more data use06:18
Cantideand we will be able to view on demand, i think TV schedules will be no more, except for live things like sport etc.06:19
Cantidethere will be some convergence between TVs and the internet at any rate06:19
Cantidenot sure to what extent exactly06:19
Cantidebut yeah, our country is not a good place for that :p06:19
Kilosfor someone who doesnt watch tv you know alot about whats happening06:20
Cantidebecause I use the internet :)06:20
Kiloslol06:20
Kilosya ya06:20
Cantideheard of netflix? hulu? Ubuntu TV?06:20
Kilosi watch 7de laan06:20
Cantidei read articles all day :)06:20
Cantideoh, you have been brainwashed!06:20
Kiloslol06:20
Cantide:p06:20
Cantideek kannie dit mooi verstaan nie :'(06:21
Kilosah06:21
Cantidewant ek het nie die kans om Afrikaans te gebruik nie06:21
Cantide(or something)06:21
Kilosthats not bad06:22
Cantidemy vocabulary is like 10 words lol06:22
CantideDurban </306:22
Kiloswe actually got an afrikaans channel but dunno if anyone is ever there anymore06:22
Cantidelol06:22
Kilosoh ya few still there06:23
Kilos#ubuntu-afr06:23
Cantidehehe06:24
Cantidebrb, urgent email!06:24
Cantidehmm06:31
Cantidealmost time to go out >.<06:31
Cantidewhat are you up to today, Kilos?06:31
Kilosplaying with iptables again06:31
Cantide:-S06:31
Kilospc2 forgot where pc1 is06:31
Kiloslol06:32
Cantidesounds like a lifelong relationship between you and iptables06:32
Cantidehaha06:32
Kilosgo well see you later06:32
Cantidethanks :)06:32
Cantideif i come back online, chase me away06:32
Cantidei mean if i come back online before my exam06:32
Cantidehaha06:32
Cantidegood luck with iptables~06:32
Cantidebye~06:32
Kilosty06:32
Kiloslo Ludo 06:34
Kilossigh06:43
KilosLuuuuuddoooooooo06:43
Kiloshmmm06:44
magespawnmorning Kilos06:55
Kilosmorning magespawn 06:56
magespawnwell at least there are no yawns here yet06:57
Kiloslol yeah06:57
Kiloslooking good today06:57
Kilosmust be because its friday06:57
magespawnmaybe06:57
superflymorning magespawn07:10
superflymagespawn: are both the devices you have charged and ready to go?07:11
magespawnmorning superfly, mine is yes no 376514 the other I do not know07:12
superflymagespawn: apparently it is still "off" (out of battery)07:12
magespawnvery low will put it on charge again now07:13
Kiloswow you see that from capetown superfly 07:13
Kiloswhew internet clever07:13
Kiloswhy dont you tell me when i got probs coming07:14
superflymagespawn: not your device, the other one07:14
superflyKilos: cause I don't have a dashboard on your internet :-P07:15
Kiloslol07:15
magespawnsuperfly they might not have used it yet07:17
superflymagespawn: the ladies are getting anxious, cause they're one of our top sellers :-)07:19
Kiloswhew when i ping 8.8.8.8 from pc2 i get 25% packet loss07:20
Kilossuperfly, they still didnt mail me the info07:20
magespawnahh right superfly 07:21
Kilosnor you magespawn 07:21
magespawnthat is a bit of a strange ip Kilos, did you set it yourself?07:21
Kilosits google07:22
magespawninfo, Kilos?07:22
Kilosthe fly gave it to me07:22
Kiloson them airtime machines07:22
Kiloscosts deposits etc etc07:22
Kiloswhats needed and all that stuff07:23
magespawnKilos see pm07:24
Kilosians company is looking for any extra income  and they are in an industrial area with many factories around them so lotsa peeps around07:33
bakumanMore mense!07:34
bakumanMaaz, coffee please07:34
Maazbakuman: There isn't a pot on07:34
bakuman:(07:34
bakumanbietssss!!!!07:34
bakumanhoe durf jy terug praat!07:34
* bakuman skop Maaz07:34
* bakuman skaam homself en vra omverskoning07:35
Kiloslo bakuman 07:35
KilosMaaz, coffee on07:36
* Maaz washes some mugs07:36
bakumanMaaz, coffee please07:36
Maazbakuman: Alrighty07:36
bakuman:D07:36
bakumanmore oom Kilos 07:36
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and bakuman!07:40
KilosMaaz, gracias amigo07:40
Maaz¡de nada compadre07:40
superflyKilos: we're trying to expand our Cape Town footprint right now... magespawn is a willing guineapig for our experiments further afield :-D07:44
Kiloswell lemme know then please superfly when you wanna try rustenburg07:45
superflyKilos: will do07:45
Kilosty07:45
charlvngood morning08:24
charlvnMaaz: coffee on08:24
* Maaz puts the kettle on08:24
magespawnMaaz coffe please08:28
Maazmagespawn: Go get it yourself!08:28
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn!08:28
magespawnouch08:28
charlvnMaaz: thanks08:32
Maazcharlvn: No problem08:32
Kiloshehe hiya charlvn 08:37
charlvnhi Kilos 08:46
* magespawn goes to blow some pixels up in open arena09:24
Kiloslol09:30
mazalAfternoon all09:53
Kiloshi mazal 09:56
mazalGaanit Oom Kilos ?09:56
Kilosits not avy yet09:56
Kilosgoed dankie en u09:56
mazalBietjie rof na gister , een hele helfte van my flat het nie meer ruite nie09:57
Kiloseish09:57
Kiloshael?09:57
mazalMoes die helfte van my goed uittrek vir storage by vriende09:57
mazalYep09:58
mazalMeeste van die flats hier se ruite uit , karre stukkend , diere beseer09:58
mazalWas erg09:58
Kilossjoe09:58
mazalNo is ek sonder my pc en Ubuntu by die huis :(09:58
mazalHet net 'n laptop by my en hy het ms op09:58
Kilosnogga eina09:58
Kilosmaar jy kan xchat op dit sit09:59
mazalHmm , het dit nie geweet nie09:59
Kilosxp of win 709:59
Kilosof vista09:59
mazalWin 709:59
KilosMaaz, google xchat for win709:59
MaazKilos: "xchat.org • View topic - xchat and windows 7" http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=4842 :: "XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program" http://xchat.org/ :: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "XChat - Windows 7 Download" http://www.windows7download.com/free-win7-xchat/ :: "Xchat 2 Crashing - Crowdsourcing Questions & Answers"09:59
Maazhttp://lockergnome.net/questions/151987/xchat-2-crashing :: "XChatData | Using / Assistant" http://xchatdata.…09:59
mazalAi die Maaz is darem handig :)10:00
Kiloshttp://www.windows7download.com/free-win7-xchat/10:00
Kiloslol ja slim bot10:00
Kiloslyk my daai ene10:00
mazalEk sal dit beslis opsit , gaan baie stil wees tuis. Geen pc , geen ps3 , geen tv niks10:01
Kiloswats fout jou pc10:02
Kilosnat gekry10:02
Kilossjoe ek sal dooi sonder n pc wat werk10:03
mazalNee ek moes dit alles verwyder vir sekuriteit10:03
mazalSonder ruite kan iemand maklik inklim10:03
mazalMy spaar pc parted wat in 'n boks naby die ruite was het egter nat geword10:04
mazalEn al my drywer cd's10:04
Kilossjoe10:04
Kilossteel hulla daar ook?10:05
Kilossjoe10:05
mazalDit het nog nooit gebeur by my nie , maar mens weet nooit10:08
Kilosyip rahter safe than sorry10:09
Kilosrather10:09
mazalNou gaan ek heavy corrupt raak met daai Win laptop lol10:10
mazalIs net die enetjie by die werk wat Ubuntu op het10:10
Kilostot pidgin werk ook op ms10:10
Kilossjoe jy sal moet ontkiem later10:10
SquirmI'm hungry now10:10
Squirm40min till lunch10:11
Squirm:/10:11
KilosSquirm, you must carry snacks with you10:11
Kilosor hide somewhere10:11
Kilosto tide you over10:11
Kilosor some fruit10:13
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Kiloshi Trixar_za 10:33
Trixar_zaHey Kilos10:34
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magespawnlater all, go to go on a game drive11:12
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Kiloshmm you guys are in and out some hey14:40
Squirmweekend14:46
* Squirm dances14:46
* Squirm pulls out the sherry14:46
Kiloshehe14:46
inetprohmm...14:47
superflyHey mazal14:51
superflyWish I could go on game drives like magespawn does14:52
Kilosyeah14:52
superflyNot sure if he drives or leads them, but it would be awesome either way14:53
hubxhi there14:53
Kiloshi hubx 14:53
Kilosgood life he has there superfly 14:53
superflyKilos: I'm sure there are days he'd rather be someone else14:54
Kilosyip everyone has bad days but hes inna tiny quiet town to start with and coupla games reserves around14:55
superflywonder if i'd be able to organise a visit when we're up in that part of the world next year14:56
Kilosmost likely14:56
Kiloshluhluwe game reserves used to have place for peeps to stay14:57
Kilosand theres st lucia down the road14:57
Kiloslotsa mosquitos14:57
Kilosim sure there a many otyher b+b places too14:58
superflyKilos: do you remember how far it is from Durban?14:58
Kilos3 hours ride i think14:58
superflyto Hluhluwe, of course14:58
Kilosmaybe bit less14:58
superflyMmmmm14:58
Kilosyeah14:58
superflyIf we can spend the night, that would be pretty awesome14:59
Kiloswhew memory sucks some but i think empangeni is bout 2 hours from durbs and hluhluwe about an hour more14:59
Kilosthere must be lotsa places to stay 15:00
Kilosthe spawn will know15:00
Kilosim going back over 30 years15:00
Kilosand theres that massive dam north of him. think its jozini15:02
Kiloswas a stream when i was there first then they dammed it but took long to fill methinks15:02
Kiloslotsa pineapples in that area15:02
superflyWe're going to be south of Durbs, Port Shepstone15:02
Kilosbiiig ones15:02
Kilosian was born in sheppy hospital15:03
superflyOh, ok15:03
Kilosw2as also a smallish town back then15:03
inetprosuperfly: https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Port+Shepstone,+KwaZulu-Natal,+South+Africa&daddr=Hluhluwe,+South+Africa&hl=en&sll=-28.93431,31.657765&sspn=2.369985,5.410767&geocode=FQU6K_4dcNbQASldUzPbaKFYHjE72CTMs9wJlQ%3BFTd3VP4d7FzsASntnfqgq_z6HjHe1drEANSLbA&oq=Port+Shepstone+&t=h&mra=ls&z=715:03
inetproeish... that's a long url, sorry15:04
Kiloslol15:04
KilosMaaz, shorten https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Port+Shepstone,+KwaZulu-Natal,+South+Africa&daddr=Hluhluwe,+South+Africa&hl=en&sll=-28.93431,31.657765&sspn=2.369985,5.410767&geocode=FQU6K_4dcNbQASldUzPbaKFYHjE72CTMs9wJlQ%3BFTd3VP4d7FzsASntnfqgq_z6HjHe1drEANSLbA&oq=Port+Shepstone+&t=h&mra=ls&z=715:04
MaazKilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/4FcCjR15:04
Kiloshehe15:04
Kilossorry for the spam15:04
inetpro from Port Shepstone to Hluhluwe = 382 km, 4 hours 25 mins along the N215:04
superflyWow, that's quite a drive15:05
Kilosya sheppy an hour south of tekwini15:05
inetprolol15:05
superflyWas thinking about visiting nuvolari, will have to plan carefully if we want to visit magespawn too15:06
inetprosuperfly: from St Lucia to Hluhluwe is 78.5 km (1 hour 17 mins)15:07
inetprosuperfly: make a overnight stopover at Umhlanga or somewhere along the Dolphin Coast, north of Durbs15:10
Kilosand mtubatuba to hluhluwe15:10
superflyMmmm, another nice place to stop15:10
Kiloshow can you take (1 hour 17 mins) for 78 ks?15:11
inetpromany beautiful places along the route15:11
Kilosoxwagon?15:11
Kilosnatal is a beautiful place15:11
inetproKilos: I don't know how they work that out but it may be right15:11
Kilosnee man15:12
Kilosst lucia just sea side of tubatuba15:12
* inetpro hasn't been there for some time15:12
superflyKilos: speed limits? Or don't they apply to you? :-P15:12
Kilostub to hulehule is a quick run15:12
Kilos20 ks about15:12
Kilosnatal speed is 12015:13
inetprothink the last time I was there was in 9615:13
inetproKilos: I think it's a 100 these days15:13
Kilosoh my15:14
superflyinetpro: i think the lst time I was there Nelson Mandela was still in prison15:14
Kiloseven so at 100 kph you cant take over an hour to do 80 ks15:14
superfly*last15:14
superflyKilos: depends on stops and things15:15
Kiloswhew you old hey superfly 15:15
superflyKilos: hahaha, or just well traveled despite my age :-P15:16
Kilosi dont think there are stops apart from where st lucia joins the road north15:16
Kiloslol15:16
superflyKilos: at least I am old enough to remember that stuff15:17
* superfly can actually remember the day of the referendum quite clearly15:18
superflyinetpro and Kilos are old enough to have voted in it though15:19
Kiloshahaha15:20
inetprolol15:20
inetprosuperfly: you didn't vote there yet?15:21
superflyKilos: what year was ian born?15:21
superflyinetpro: a few years too young15:21
inetprook15:21
Kilos7515:21
Kilosi think15:22
Kilosi ask sis15:22
Kilosya15:22
superflyKilos: ah, ok, a few years older than me15:22
Kilosoh my15:23
Kilosa few?15:23
superflyKilos: vyf jaar ouer as ek15:23
Kilossjoe15:24
Kilosnow i feel even older15:24
Kilosgood thing magtie no here15:24
Kiloshi hmmer15:27
superflyKilos: you're still young enough to learn new tricks15:27
Kilosyeah15:28
zerefhi Kilos 15:28
Kilosif it wasnt for the head id still be wrestling steers to brand them15:28
Kilosnow i wrestle iptables15:30
superflyhahahaha15:30
mazalKilos are you 75 ?15:32
Kilosno0 man15:33
Kilos6115:33
Kiloswhere you went to school15:33
Kilosgo ask for your money back15:33
Kiloshehe15:33
Kilossorry15:33
mazalHehehe , ok got confused trying to catch up with the conversation15:34
Kiloslol15:34
Kilosya its bad when inetpro calls me oom15:34
Kiloshes an oom15:35
superflymazal: where in SA are you?15:36
mazalsuperfly , Cullinan15:37
superflymazal: have you heard of an app called OpenLP?15:37
mazalnope15:37
* superfly is in the mother city15:37
superflymazal: google it, your church might find it handy15:38
mazalK will have a look15:39
mazalCan't install though15:39
superflyhrm, my station next15:39
Kiloswalk a mile in my shoes15:40
Kilosyou get lift from station superfly ?15:40
superflyKilos: that way I'll be a mile away AND have your shoes!15:40
Kiloslol15:40
superflyKilos: nope15:41
Kiloseish you walk?15:41
Kiloshow far?15:41
superflyanyways, gotta go15:41
Kiloslater15:41
superflyYup15:41
superflyAbout 10 minutes 15:41
Kiloshealthy when not raining15:41
Kilosthen miserable15:41
inetproKilos: ek's g'n oom nie, ai15:43
* inetpro is baie jonk15:43
Kiloshehe15:44
Kiloswe had a lekker friday avy chat hey?15:45
* mazal misses his Ubuntu pc15:45
* mazal thinks he must try the usb install thing15:45
Kilosmazal, you shoulda locked it in your bedroom15:45
mazalI lost they keys15:45
Kilosyou got a big usb stick?15:45
mazalDon't know where they are :P15:45
Kilosai15:46
mazalI got 2 external hdd's that is in my work bag :)15:46
Kilosah15:46
mazalLast time I tried it I failed though15:47
mazalBut since I have so much time I might as well try again15:47
Kilosperfect the method and i will try15:48
Kilosgot a 40 gig lappy external that was storage  and backup place but can experiment maybe15:48
mazalI think I will do that in place of my usual Friday archiving15:49
Kilosyou should be able to if you remove hdd from lappy connect external and boot from ubuntu cd15:49
Kilosthen set bios to boot from usb after15:50
mazalNah somme gonna try with hdd still in laptop15:50
* mazal nie bangie :)15:50
Kilosbye winsucks15:50
tumbleweedsuperfly: am I supposed to be reviewing an openlp upload?15:50
mazalGotta go for now15:51
mazalBye all15:51
mazalGod bless15:51
Kiloslater mazal 15:51
Kilosty you too15:52
Kilosyou youngster needs more blessings than me15:52
Kilosaw he missed that15:52
superflytumbleweed: I think I left a message for you a while ago about the latest version (which is/was 1.9.12)16:10
tumbleweedyeah, I quickly forget about things I intend to do16:11
superflyhaha\16:11
superflytumbleweed: if you have some time, please could you review?16:12
tumbleweeduscan says the latest version is "MediaKit" :)16:12
superflytumbleweed: also, we're hoping to bring out a final version at the end of this month, would be great to get it into debian/ubuntu soon thereafter16:13
superflytumbleweed: meh, how can I fix that?16:13
tumbleweedonly match numbers and dots in the watch file?16:13
superflyah16:13
* superfly goes to look16:13
* superfly tries to referee a toddler and a kitten while doing a few other things16:14
Kiloslol16:15
tumbleweedthat sounds fairly attention-consuming16:15
superflytumbleweed: somewhat16:16
Kiloswb SmilyBorg_h 16:18
SmilyBorg_hhey there16:18
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zerefhmmmmm16:19
Kiloswb hmmmmer16:19
superflytumbleweed: OK, try now?16:19
Kilosnet not good today16:19
tumbleweedsuperfly: I'd add a changelog entry for that16:21
tumbleweedand use the right e-mail address for the changelog entry16:21
superflymkay16:22
superflytumbleweed: should I create a new changelog entry called 1.9.12-2 ?16:35
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tumbleweedno, we haven't uploaded -116:44
Kiloshey Cantide how the exams go?16:56
Cantidenot bad :D16:56
Cantideharder than I expected16:56
Cantidebut i sat for almost the full 2 hours this time16:56
Cantideand completed all 12 pages of it '-'16:56
Cantideso i should get a goodish mark :D16:56
Cantidehow was your Friday?16:56
Kilosgood at least you finished16:56
Cantideyup16:57
Kilosquiet ty16:57
Cantidequiet is nice :)16:57
Kilosna its boring16:57
Kilosnaand tannie magtie17:03
Cantideonly boring if you lack hobbies17:04
magtiehello oom kilos17:04
Cantidei was too busy to do the things i wanted to do today... and it rained yet again, so i couldn't anyway17:04
Kiloshehe17:04
Kiloshet hulle jou gese?17:04
Kilosi go eat quick kinda17:06
inetproyummy! That was nice...17:09
* inetpro just had a very tasty home made chicken salad twister wrap17:09
inetprochicken & salad*17:10
mazalHa ! It works :)17:12
inetpromazal: wb17:13
mazalta inetpro17:14
mazalRunning of an external hdd now17:18
superflyhiya mazal17:19
zerefinetpro: share :D17:19
superflytumbleweed: right, I've updated the tags, updated the changelog entry, and fixed the e-mail address17:20
mazalI dunno what I did wrong the previous time , but this time it was very easy17:20
inetprozeref: how? It's all inme stomach now? :-)17:21
tumbleweedsuperfly: err, the date is also a month old. But I'm ok with ignoring that17:22
inetpros/? :/ :/17:22
zerefinetpro: awwww17:22
superflytumbleweed: ag, sorry, I'll fix that too17:22
* zeref goes to dig in the fridge17:23
inetprozeref: sorry17:23
Kiloshehe17:24
KilosMaaz, now you got buntu with you as long as you have the external17:25
MaazKilos: If you say so17:25
Kiloslekker hey17:25
Kilosgrrr17:25
Kilosmazal, 17:25
mazalYes17:25
superflytumbleweed: OK, fixed17:26
* superfly needs to write this up so that he doesn't forget *again*17:26
tumbleweedsuperfly: LGTM, uploading17:27
mazalI just can't get my chat setup17:27
mazalCan't remember how I added my gtalk account to empathy17:27
superflytumbleweed: thank you, and thanks for your patience17:27
tumbleweeduploads like this are so easy they're a joy :)17:28
mazalah , nevermind , found it17:29
Kilosmazal, im not sure empathy anymore but xmpp is the thing'17:29
Kilosah17:29
Kilosi didnt like empathy. pidgin better17:29
mazalOne forget these little things if you are used to seperate /home partition17:29
mazalThen no install needs config17:29
Kilosya i do that too17:30
mazalThis is the first one I needed to config mail etc. in a long time17:30
Kilosonly if you have a prob and reinstall thew prob stays in home17:31
Kilosthen17:31
Kilosno the17:32
Kilosfingers too fat17:32
mazalNow I just need a little rsync for my docs and I'm good17:32
Kilosmore thunderbees tonight17:33
superflytumbleweed: for the final release I'm going to write a patch to disable that version check17:35
tumbleweedversion check?17:35
superflytumbleweed: yeah, like Firefox has a version check in the Windows version, OpenLP has a version check too17:36
superflyand I know that sort of thing should be disabled for packaged software17:36
tumbleweedoh, yes, it should be17:37
Kilossuperfly, how big is it?17:37
superflyKilos: OpenLP? by itself about 15 megs, but there are a number of libraries that it needs17:37
Kiloshow do i get it please17:38
Kilosppa thingie?17:38
Kilosmazal, how much space on the external have you made for ubuntu?17:39
superflyKilos: well, there's an older version in Ubuntu17:40
Kilosoh ok i go look in synaptic ty17:40
mazalKilos, 80gig17:42
Kiloslekker17:42
mazalIt was already there. I made it long ago for backing up /home data. So I sommer used it17:42
Kilosopenlp is 2.9 meg and total download is 4170 kB superfly  lekker small17:43
Kiloshehe17:43
Kilossuperfly, you made that whole thing?17:58
Kilosonce doing its config thingwith videos and music unticked total 17 meg18:00
Kiloscould enjoy uncapped methinks18:01
superflyKilos: not just me, a team of us18:02
Kilosvery nice well done18:03
Kilosoh images unticked as well18:03
mazalWhen I search for openlp I get no results ?18:04
superflymazal: which version of Ubuntu?18:04
mazal12.0418:04
superflymazal: you need to enable the backports repository18:05
Kilosmazal, in synaptic18:05
superflymazal: http://user-guide.openlp.org/_images/5-updates-backports.png18:06
Kilossuperfly, whats the backports thing18:08
Kilosi didnt do anything extra18:08
superflyKilos: that's an extra repository so that newer versions of software can be installed in older versions of Ubuntu18:08
superflyKilos: which version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu are you using?18:08
Kilos12.0418:08
Kilosonly have canonical partners etc added in repos18:09
mazalOk , downloading18:09
superflyhrm... maybe you added it some other time?18:09
Kiloswhew18:10
mazalIt still didn't show in software centre , but showed in synaptic18:10
Kilosi dont use software centre its too slow and hard to find things18:11
superflymazal: yeah, software centre is slow to update18:11
Kilossynaptic rocks18:11
mazalFortunately I installed my iso so I have synaptec18:12
Kilosfirst things i do is install gdebi aptitude xchat pidgin and synaptic18:12
Kiloswas  a shock when they started leaving synaptic out18:12
mazalWhat's gdebi ?18:13
Kilospackage manager18:13
mazalah ok18:13
Kilosif you got a pile of packages you can install with gdebi18:13
Kilosi think its a package manager18:14
superflyit's more of a package file installer that makes sure you have all the dependencies installed as well18:14
Kilosit finds what dependancies you got and still need and does the install18:15
Kilosah ty superfly 18:15
Kilossynaptic can do all upgrades and everything for you too18:17
Kilosand fix broken packages18:17
Kiloshandy for someone not to cli proficient18:17
mazalShould try and remember that18:18
mazalshould I mark all the plug-ins ?18:18
Kilosif data no prob yes18:18
mazalOeps , and if it is ?18:18
Kilosthen you have a complete app18:18
Kilosi unticked movies images and music18:19
Kilosthen its basicall text18:19
Kiloswith cool gui stuff18:19
Cantideit seems as if i have fixed my PC 'o'18:21
Kilosget all the plugins when you on work internet18:21
mazalI see it has Bibles :)18:21
Kiloswhat was wrong catide?18:21
Cantidethe freezing had become too frequent, so i finally changed the PSU today18:21
Cantidewhich didn't seem to help much18:21
superflyKilos: you can tick all the plugins without downloading anything extra18:21
Cantideand eventually i started removing things... seems one of my RAM modules is faulty18:21
Kilosoh ty superfly thats nice to know18:21
mazalAnd one can add unmarked things later yes ?18:22
Kilosdid you clean it and plug it back in Cantide 18:22
Cantidei tried that and it still froze18:22
Kilosi dunno mazal will find out from the fly18:22
Cantidei even tried different slots18:22
Kilosthen stuffed ya18:23
Kiloswell done18:23
Kilossee no new pc needed just lekker to get one18:23
Cantidei'll keep testing it for a few days before i decide that was really the problem :P18:23
Kiloslol18:23
Cantidebecause i can't replicate the freezing intentionally18:23
mazalI used mine for 2 days :(18:23
Kilosthen still dads to fix18:23
Cantideit seemed to happen sporadically18:23
CantideKilos, yeah :-S18:23
Cantideafter my trip :p18:23
Kilosshame he has to wait18:24
Kilosshame on you18:24
Kilospoor papa18:24
Cantidehahaha18:24
Kiloshehe18:24
Cantidehe needs it - it forces him to get things done around the house18:24
Kiloshe uses windows18:24
superflymazal: yes18:25
superflymazal: the plugins you can enable in the plugin list, and the resources you can download again by re-running the wizard from the tools menu18:25
CantideKilos, yeah, that'll teach him!18:26
Kilosthats nice superfly 18:26
mazalK , mine is downloading now the things I selected18:26
Kiloshaha leave it and say the koreans say ubuntu is the way to go18:26
Cantidehahahaha18:27
Cantidei installed Ubuntu on there so he could dual boot - even saw him using it a few times18:27
Cantidejust need to fix it up properly18:27
Cantideand then remove windows18:27
Kilosah18:28
Kiloslo smile4ever 18:28
Kiloshavge you got openlp?18:28
Kiloshave as well18:29
smile4everhi :D18:29
KilosCantide, what does it actually do?18:30
Cantidedoesn't post18:30
Kilosdead completely?18:30
Cantideor if it does, it freezes after a few minutes18:30
Cantidenot completely18:30
Cantidesimilar to what my PC was doing, only freezing faster18:30
Cantideor not booting at all18:30
Kilosfreezes in winsucks or ubuntu?18:30
Kilosvirus18:31
Kilostrojan donkey18:31
Cantideboth18:32
Cantidei think it's overheating - didn't i tell you about the broken heatsink bracket?18:32
Kiloswhew yous bought ram same place same time18:32
Cantideso i just need to open it up and check18:32
Kilosoh ya18:32
Cantidenope, i got them at different times, and they're different brands18:32
Kiloscpu overheating18:33
Cantidemost likely, yes18:33
Cantidebut i am lazy :p18:33
Cantideespecially if it means drilling holes in the MB18:33
Kilosthey actually get hot very fast if heatsink and fan no good18:33
Cantideto secure the heatsink18:33
Cantideyes18:33
Cantidei will see if i can salvage a bracket off an old board18:34
Cantidesleep time :p18:35
Cantidegood night '-'18:35
Kilosnight can18:35
Kilosgrrr18:35
Squirmevning18:36
mazalI got a blank screen and couldn't get out18:36
Kiloshi Squirm 18:36
mazalLo Squirm18:36
Kilosouch mazal 18:36
mazalWhere do I stop xchat from auto-joining the ubuntu channel ?18:39
mazaldon't see it in preferences18:40
Kilosfirst  little window it opens18:40
Kilosyou scroll to freenode then tick edit18:40
Kilosthe type in #ubuntu-za in favourite channels + others if you like18:41
Kilosseperated with <18:41
Kilos,18:41
Kilos,18:41
Kilosnot <18:42
mazalI don't get that options on startup18:42
Kilosok18:42
mazalIt joins freenode and joins ubuntu18:42
Kilostop left18:42
Kilosxchat18:42
Kilosnetwork list18:42
Kilosthen set it up18:42
mazalThere's nothing there to setup , just gives a list of channels18:43
Kilosscroll to freenode18:43
Kilostick it then tick edit18:43
mazalThere's no freenode in the network menu18:44
Kilosdont tick the skip network list till you got it as you want it18:44
mazalJust connect , disconnect , close , channels18:44
Kiloswhere you put your nick in?18:44
Kilosthat window18:44
Kilosmust be a freenode18:44
mazalRight at the beginning , but it doesn't show that window anymore18:45
Kilosunder fefnet18:45
Kilosyou on xchat now?\18:45
Kilosmazal, talk to me18:46
mazalah I found it , it's under preferences then network18:46
mazalI was looking at the main network menu18:47
Kilosah18:47
mazaland now I sommer found the nickserv password as well lol18:48
mazalBeen looking for that for ages18:48
Kiloslol18:48
mazalEvery time I type it in manually :P18:48
Kilosdid you used to sit in the ubuntu channel?18:51
Kilosmahem there18:51
mazalI looked in there once18:52
mazalBut you can't even follow what is going on18:52
Kilosnope18:52
Kilostoo many peeps all at once18:52
mazalThen every time I started up xchat I had to manually close that channel18:53
Kilosand each one knows what he must answer to who18:53
mazalI dunno how they do it18:53
Kilosnow you will come here without probs18:53
mazalI got confused within seconds18:53
Kilosyeah me too18:53
Kilosmadness is18:53
mazalOk I'm off to bed18:54
Kilosnight mazal sleep tight18:54
smile4evergood night mazal :p18:54
mazalLekker slaap oom Kilos18:54
Kilosdankie boet18:54
mazalNight smile4ever18:54
mazalNight all18:54
mazalBlessings18:54
Kilosty18:54
Kilossame there18:54
Kilossmile4ever, why you dropped your e17 bit18:58
Kilosnight all . sleep tight. ty superfly 19:01
smile4evergood night :p19:02
smile4ever:)19:02
smile4everdoei! :D19:30
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zerefoh dear20:56
zerefhow to set a file name as date in a script20:56
zeref??20:56
zerefls21:20
zerefsigh22:13
bakumanzeref... what?22:14
zerefi'm trying to set a folder to the name of the curretn date22:15
zeref*current folder to the current date22:15
bakumanshell script?22:16
zerefyebo22:17
zerefis it not something like22:17
bakumanfirst get the way you want to print the date22:18
zerefdate =date +%d%m%y22:18
bakumanno, spaces matter22:19
bakumandate="date +%d%m%y"22:20
bakumanoops no22:20
bakumandate=$(date +%d%m%y")22:20
bakumanthat is the way zeref22:21
bakumanthen: mv <folder> $date22:21
zerefahhh22:21
zerefthanks bakuman 22:22
zerefworking now :D22:22
bakumanor if you want it in one line: mv <folder> $(date +%d%m%y)22:22
bakuman:D22:22
zerefwhat  i'm trying to do to to get the max id, adn printing the row22:23
zeref"select f_name,l_name,cell_number from customer where uid=(select max(uid) from customer)"22:23
zerefbut according to some peeps that method is a bit slow22:23
bakumanI'm mot a pro in sql queries :D22:25
zerefif postgres <=8.022:25
zerefmine is 8.422:25
zeref?22:25
bakumanbut cannot think of anything that can be quicker than calling max22:25
zerefyeah22:25
zerefsame here22:26
zerefmabe they have steroif up the max function in > 8.022:26
zeref*steriod22:26
bakumanhaha22:27
zerefbtwm its that the only way to to get the last recorc in a database22:28
bakumanif uid is auto incrementing, you can just select the last one22:28
zeref*record22:28
zerefyah22:28
bakumanthere should be a LAST call or something?22:28
zerefhmmmmmmm]22:28
zereffor postgresql22:28
zerefi've not seen one yet22:29
zerefI'm bust looking at the doc22:29
zerefin java22:31
zerefif i get it right22:31
zerefjob almost secure22:32
zeref22:42
bakumanSELECT fields FROM table ORDER BY id DESC LIMIT 1;22:43
bakumanthat seems to be the answer zeref22:44
bakumanyou tell it to sort by "uid" then get the first entry only in descending order22:45
bakuman"select f_name,l_name,cell_number from customer ORDER  BY uid DESC LIMIT 1" in your case22:48
zerefyes22:49
zerefit works, thanks bakuman 22:50
bakuman:D22:50
zerefK, 23:05
zerefnoe just need to add to it to a script23:05
bakuman\o23:09
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