[04:44] morning everybody [04:53] morning Kilos [04:53] you get up earlier and earlier [05:00] lol hi psydroid [05:47] morning [05:48] hi Squirm [05:58] morning Kilos, Squirm & psydroid [05:58] ohi Superhuman [05:58] morning superfly [05:59] morning Superhuman [05:59] hi superfly [05:59] lo inetpro [05:59] hi Squirm [06:00] morning Kilos, Superhuman, Squirm and psydroid! [06:00] aweh superfly! [06:00] Superhuman: another bun in the oven, eh? [06:01] Jip! [06:01] awesomesauce [06:01] Bun almost ready to get out... +- 90 days to go [06:01] wow nearly min dae [06:02] oh you guys dont know army chat [06:02] i gonna give you 40 days [06:02] Kilos: I *always* hear about min dae [06:03] it was when you got to the last 40 days of your comp army service superfly [06:06] after 9 months my time then 18 months then 2 years i think later call ups did [06:06] yo Cantide [06:06] whats news [06:06] hey Kilos '-' [06:07] aweh Cantide [06:07] hi Superhuman :p [06:08] Kilos, exam today [06:08] so i have the day off '-' [06:08] what about you? [06:08] good luck laddy [06:08] thanks :) [06:08] im goodish ty [06:09] and thanks for the 3G autoconnect workaround :) [06:09] i haven't tested it out yet [06:09] i think i'm going to go back to 12.04 :< [06:10] np [06:10] 12.04 isnt bad. ill still get to 12.10 when cds arrive [06:10] hmm [06:11] i'm not sure if it's 12.10 or just my PC, but it keeps crashing [06:11] some peeps say its way faster than 12.04 and others say its slower so i gotta see for myself [06:11] especially when browsing pages with flash or playing video [06:11] ai that sucks [06:11] yeah :-S [06:11] how much ram you got? [06:11] so back to 12.04 i shall go, but in a month's time :) [06:12] Cantide: Try a fresh install of 12.10...might be residual configs/packages that are causing that... [06:12] Superhuman, true - i did do an upgrade [06:12] or i will wait for 13.04 [06:12] 13.04 isnt lts [06:12] i will be doing a fresh install anyway, because i plan on getting an SSD soonish [06:13] I know my Thunderbird is giving me major uphill because it has been upgraded since 08.10 [06:13] Kilos, I don't care too much about LTS [06:13] long term support [06:13] oh.. I use Thunderbird every day, and it works well for me :) [06:13] Kilos, I know :p [06:13] 5 years if im not mistook [06:13] yup [06:13] evolution much better than thunderbird [06:13] The base email files are way old...and need to be freshly done... [06:14] LTS doesn't really make a difference to me, although they do seem more stable [06:14] and stability is the reason i want to go back to 12.04 [06:14] Kilos: I have about 1 million emails in Thunderbird. Company requires that we keep ALL emails, and I've been here 4 years [06:14] anyhow, i will decide after i get some new hardware [06:15] i just purged thunderbirc and install evo and did a mail backup from maverick and it runs well [06:15] Superhuman, wow... okay, that's WAY more than me [06:15] i use it at home - wish i could use it at work [06:15] ouch Superhuman [06:16] Kilos, for some reason i've always liked Thunderbird [06:16] and for some other reason I've never liked Evolution :-S [06:16] eeeek [06:16] lo SmilyBorg_w [06:16] you watched too much tv as a kid Cantide [06:17] hahaha [06:17] hehe [06:17] what does TV have to do with choice of email client? [06:17] and no, i barely watch TV :p [06:17] brainwashed [06:17] lol [06:17] now yes [06:17] personal preference :) [06:17] even then... i don't recall watching much other than Gummy Bears and The Simpsons [06:18] its a known fact tv is the most effective brainwashing tool out [06:18] haha [06:18] hehe [06:18] unless you select what you watch :p [06:18] the internet <3 [06:18] TV is going to change soon anyway [06:18] Smart TVs will allow us to select content from the internet [06:18] to what [06:18] eish more data use [06:19] and we will be able to view on demand, i think TV schedules will be no more, except for live things like sport etc. [06:19] there will be some convergence between TVs and the internet at any rate [06:19] not sure to what extent exactly [06:19] but yeah, our country is not a good place for that :p [06:20] for someone who doesnt watch tv you know alot about whats happening [06:20] because I use the internet :) [06:20] lol [06:20] ya ya [06:20] heard of netflix? hulu? Ubuntu TV? [06:20] i watch 7de laan [06:20] i read articles all day :) [06:20] oh, you have been brainwashed! [06:20] lol [06:20] :p [06:21] ek kannie dit mooi verstaan nie :'( [06:21] ah [06:21] want ek het nie die kans om Afrikaans te gebruik nie [06:21] (or something) [06:22] thats not bad [06:22] my vocabulary is like 10 words lol [06:22] Durban we actually got an afrikaans channel but dunno if anyone is ever there anymore [06:22] lol [06:23] oh ya few still there [06:23] #ubuntu-afr [06:24] hehe [06:24] brb, urgent email! [06:31] hmm [06:31] almost time to go out >.< [06:31] what are you up to today, Kilos? [06:31] playing with iptables again [06:31] :-S [06:31] pc2 forgot where pc1 is [06:32] lol [06:32] sounds like a lifelong relationship between you and iptables [06:32] haha [06:32] go well see you later [06:32] thanks :) [06:32] if i come back online, chase me away [06:32] i mean if i come back online before my exam [06:32] haha [06:32] good luck with iptables~ [06:32] bye~ [06:32] ty [06:34] lo Ludo [06:43] sigh [06:43] Luuuuuddoooooooo [06:44] hmmm [06:55] morning Kilos [06:56] morning magespawn [06:57] well at least there are no yawns here yet [06:57] lol yeah [06:57] looking good today [06:57] must be because its friday [06:57] maybe [07:10] morning magespawn [07:11] magespawn: are both the devices you have charged and ready to go? [07:12] morning superfly, mine is yes no 376514 the other I do not know [07:12] magespawn: apparently it is still "off" (out of battery) [07:13] very low will put it on charge again now [07:13] wow you see that from capetown superfly [07:13] whew internet clever [07:14] why dont you tell me when i got probs coming [07:14] magespawn: not your device, the other one [07:15] Kilos: cause I don't have a dashboard on your internet :-P [07:15] lol [07:17] superfly they might not have used it yet [07:19] magespawn: the ladies are getting anxious, cause they're one of our top sellers :-) [07:20] whew when i ping 8.8.8.8 from pc2 i get 25% packet loss [07:20] superfly, they still didnt mail me the info [07:21] ahh right superfly [07:21] nor you magespawn [07:21] that is a bit of a strange ip Kilos, did you set it yourself? [07:22] its google [07:22] info, Kilos? [07:22] the fly gave it to me [07:22] on them airtime machines [07:22] costs deposits etc etc [07:23] whats needed and all that stuff [07:24] Kilos see pm [07:33] ians company is looking for any extra income and they are in an industrial area with many factories around them so lotsa peeps around [07:34] More mense! [07:34] Maaz, coffee please [07:34] bakuman: There isn't a pot on [07:34] :( [07:34] bietssss!!!! [07:34] hoe durf jy terug praat! [07:34] * bakuman skop Maaz [07:35] * bakuman skaam homself en vra omverskoning [07:35] lo bakuman [07:36] Maaz, coffee on [07:36] * Maaz washes some mugs [07:36] Maaz, coffee please [07:36] bakuman: Alrighty [07:36] :D [07:36] more oom Kilos [07:40] Coffee's ready for Kilos and bakuman! [07:40] Maaz, gracias amigo [07:40] ¡de nada compadre [07:44] Kilos: we're trying to expand our Cape Town footprint right now... magespawn is a willing guineapig for our experiments further afield :-D [07:45] well lemme know then please superfly when you wanna try rustenburg [07:45] Kilos: will do [07:45] ty [08:24] good morning [08:24] Maaz: coffee on [08:24] * Maaz puts the kettle on [08:28] Maaz coffe please [08:28] magespawn: Go get it yourself! [08:28] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [08:28] ouch [08:32] Maaz: thanks [08:32] charlvn: No problem [08:37] hehe hiya charlvn [08:46] hi Kilos [09:24] * magespawn goes to blow some pixels up in open arena [09:30] lol [09:53] Afternoon all [09:56] hi mazal [09:56] Gaanit Oom Kilos ? [09:56] its not avy yet [09:56] goed dankie en u [09:57] Bietjie rof na gister , een hele helfte van my flat het nie meer ruite nie [09:57] eish [09:57] hael? [09:57] Moes die helfte van my goed uittrek vir storage by vriende [09:58] Yep [09:58] Meeste van die flats hier se ruite uit , karre stukkend , diere beseer [09:58] Was erg [09:58] sjoe [09:58] No is ek sonder my pc en Ubuntu by die huis :( [09:58] Het net 'n laptop by my en hy het ms op [09:58] nogga eina [09:59] maar jy kan xchat op dit sit [09:59] Hmm , het dit nie geweet nie [09:59] xp of win 7 [09:59] of vista [09:59] Win 7 [09:59] Maaz, google xchat for win7 [09:59] Kilos: "xchat.org • View topic - xchat and windows 7" http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=4842 :: "XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program" http://xchat.org/ :: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "XChat - Windows 7 Download" http://www.windows7download.com/free-win7-xchat/ :: "Xchat 2 Crashing - Crowdsourcing Questions & Answers" [09:59] http://lockergnome.net/questions/151987/xchat-2-crashing :: "XChatData | Using / Assistant" http://xchatdata.… [10:00] Ai die Maaz is darem handig :) [10:00] http://www.windows7download.com/free-win7-xchat/ [10:00] lol ja slim bot [10:00] lyk my daai ene [10:01] Ek sal dit beslis opsit , gaan baie stil wees tuis. Geen pc , geen ps3 , geen tv niks [10:02] wats fout jou pc [10:02] nat gekry [10:03] sjoe ek sal dooi sonder n pc wat werk [10:03] Nee ek moes dit alles verwyder vir sekuriteit [10:03] Sonder ruite kan iemand maklik inklim [10:04] My spaar pc parted wat in 'n boks naby die ruite was het egter nat geword [10:04] En al my drywer cd's [10:04] sjoe [10:05] steel hulla daar ook? [10:05] sjoe [10:08] Dit het nog nooit gebeur by my nie , maar mens weet nooit [10:09] yip rahter safe than sorry [10:09] rather [10:10] Nou gaan ek heavy corrupt raak met daai Win laptop lol [10:10] Is net die enetjie by die werk wat Ubuntu op het [10:10] tot pidgin werk ook op ms [10:10] sjoe jy sal moet ontkiem later [10:10] I'm hungry now [10:11] 40min till lunch [10:11] :/ [10:11] Squirm, you must carry snacks with you [10:11] or hide somewhere [10:11] to tide you over [10:13] or some fruit === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [10:33] hi Trixar_za [10:34] Hey Kilos === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [11:12] later all, go to go on a game drive === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [14:40] hmm you guys are in and out some hey [14:46] weekend [14:46] * Squirm dances [14:46] * Squirm pulls out the sherry [14:46] hehe [14:47] hmm... [14:51] Hey mazal [14:52] Wish I could go on game drives like magespawn does [14:52] yeah [14:53] Not sure if he drives or leads them, but it would be awesome either way [14:53] hi there [14:53] hi hubx [14:53] good life he has there superfly [14:54] Kilos: I'm sure there are days he'd rather be someone else [14:55] yip everyone has bad days but hes inna tiny quiet town to start with and coupla games reserves around [14:56] wonder if i'd be able to organise a visit when we're up in that part of the world next year [14:56] most likely [14:57] hluhluwe game reserves used to have place for peeps to stay [14:57] and theres st lucia down the road [14:57] lotsa mosquitos [14:58] im sure there a many otyher b+b places too [14:58] Kilos: do you remember how far it is from Durban? [14:58] 3 hours ride i think [14:58] to Hluhluwe, of course [14:58] maybe bit less [14:58] Mmmmm [14:58] yeah [14:59] If we can spend the night, that would be pretty awesome [14:59] whew memory sucks some but i think empangeni is bout 2 hours from durbs and hluhluwe about an hour more [15:00] there must be lotsa places to stay [15:00] the spawn will know [15:00] im going back over 30 years [15:02] and theres that massive dam north of him. think its jozini [15:02] was a stream when i was there first then they dammed it but took long to fill methinks [15:02] lotsa pineapples in that area [15:02] We're going to be south of Durbs, Port Shepstone [15:02] biiig ones [15:03] ian was born in sheppy hospital [15:03] Oh, ok [15:03] w2as also a smallish town back then [15:03] superfly: https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Port+Shepstone,+KwaZulu-Natal,+South+Africa&daddr=Hluhluwe,+South+Africa&hl=en&sll=-28.93431,31.657765&sspn=2.369985,5.410767&geocode=FQU6K_4dcNbQASldUzPbaKFYHjE72CTMs9wJlQ%3BFTd3VP4d7FzsASntnfqgq_z6HjHe1drEANSLbA&oq=Port+Shepstone+&t=h&mra=ls&z=7 [15:04] eish... that's a long url, sorry [15:04] lol [15:04] Maaz, shorten https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Port+Shepstone,+KwaZulu-Natal,+South+Africa&daddr=Hluhluwe,+South+Africa&hl=en&sll=-28.93431,31.657765&sspn=2.369985,5.410767&geocode=FQU6K_4dcNbQASldUzPbaKFYHjE72CTMs9wJlQ%3BFTd3VP4d7FzsASntnfqgq_z6HjHe1drEANSLbA&oq=Port+Shepstone+&t=h&mra=ls&z=7 [15:04] Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/4FcCjR [15:04] hehe [15:04] sorry for the spam [15:04] from Port Shepstone to Hluhluwe = 382 km, 4 hours 25 mins along the N2 [15:05] Wow, that's quite a drive [15:05] ya sheppy an hour south of tekwini [15:05] lol [15:06] Was thinking about visiting nuvolari, will have to plan carefully if we want to visit magespawn too [15:07] superfly: from St Lucia to Hluhluwe is 78.5 km (1 hour 17 mins) [15:10] superfly: make a overnight stopover at Umhlanga or somewhere along the Dolphin Coast, north of Durbs [15:10] and mtubatuba to hluhluwe [15:10] Mmmm, another nice place to stop [15:11] how can you take (1 hour 17 mins) for 78 ks? [15:11] many beautiful places along the route [15:11] oxwagon? [15:11] natal is a beautiful place [15:11] Kilos: I don't know how they work that out but it may be right [15:12] nee man [15:12] st lucia just sea side of tubatuba [15:12] * inetpro hasn't been there for some time [15:12] Kilos: speed limits? Or don't they apply to you? :-P [15:12] tub to hulehule is a quick run [15:12] 20 ks about [15:13] natal speed is 120 [15:13] think the last time I was there was in 96 [15:13] Kilos: I think it's a 100 these days [15:14] oh my [15:14] inetpro: i think the lst time I was there Nelson Mandela was still in prison [15:14] even so at 100 kph you cant take over an hour to do 80 ks [15:14] *last [15:15] Kilos: depends on stops and things [15:15] whew you old hey superfly [15:16] Kilos: hahaha, or just well traveled despite my age :-P [15:16] i dont think there are stops apart from where st lucia joins the road north [15:16] lol [15:17] Kilos: at least I am old enough to remember that stuff [15:18] * superfly can actually remember the day of the referendum quite clearly [15:19] inetpro and Kilos are old enough to have voted in it though [15:20] hahaha [15:20] lol [15:21] superfly: you didn't vote there yet? [15:21] Kilos: what year was ian born? [15:21] inetpro: a few years too young [15:21] ok [15:21] 75 [15:22] i think [15:22] i ask sis [15:22] ya [15:22] Kilos: ah, ok, a few years older than me [15:23] oh my [15:23] a few? [15:23] Kilos: vyf jaar ouer as ek [15:24] sjoe [15:24] now i feel even older [15:24] good thing magtie no here [15:27] hi hmmer [15:27] Kilos: you're still young enough to learn new tricks [15:28] yeah [15:28] hi Kilos [15:28] if it wasnt for the head id still be wrestling steers to brand them [15:30] now i wrestle iptables [15:30] hahahaha [15:32] Kilos are you 75 ? [15:33] no0 man [15:33] 61 [15:33] where you went to school [15:33] go ask for your money back [15:33] hehe [15:33] sorry [15:34] Hehehe , ok got confused trying to catch up with the conversation [15:34] lol [15:34] ya its bad when inetpro calls me oom [15:35] hes an oom [15:36] mazal: where in SA are you? [15:37] superfly , Cullinan [15:37] mazal: have you heard of an app called OpenLP? [15:37] nope [15:37] * superfly is in the mother city [15:38] mazal: google it, your church might find it handy [15:39] K will have a look [15:39] Can't install though [15:39] hrm, my station next [15:40] walk a mile in my shoes [15:40] you get lift from station superfly ? [15:40] Kilos: that way I'll be a mile away AND have your shoes! [15:40] lol [15:41] Kilos: nope [15:41] eish you walk? [15:41] how far? [15:41] anyways, gotta go [15:41] later [15:41] Yup [15:41] About 10 minutes [15:41] healthy when not raining [15:41] then miserable [15:43] Kilos: ek's g'n oom nie, ai [15:43] * inetpro is baie jonk [15:44] hehe [15:45] we had a lekker friday avy chat hey? [15:45] * mazal misses his Ubuntu pc [15:45] * mazal thinks he must try the usb install thing [15:45] mazal, you shoulda locked it in your bedroom [15:45] I lost they keys [15:45] you got a big usb stick? [15:45] Don't know where they are :P [15:46] ai [15:46] I got 2 external hdd's that is in my work bag :) [15:46] ah [15:47] Last time I tried it I failed though [15:47] But since I have so much time I might as well try again [15:48] perfect the method and i will try [15:48] got a 40 gig lappy external that was storage and backup place but can experiment maybe [15:49] I think I will do that in place of my usual Friday archiving [15:49] you should be able to if you remove hdd from lappy connect external and boot from ubuntu cd [15:50] then set bios to boot from usb after [15:50] Nah somme gonna try with hdd still in laptop [15:50] * mazal nie bangie :) [15:50] bye winsucks [15:50] superfly: am I supposed to be reviewing an openlp upload? [15:51] Gotta go for now [15:51] Bye all [15:51] God bless [15:51] later mazal [15:52] ty you too [15:52] you youngster needs more blessings than me [15:52] aw he missed that [16:10] tumbleweed: I think I left a message for you a while ago about the latest version (which is/was 1.9.12) [16:11] yeah, I quickly forget about things I intend to do [16:11] haha\ [16:12] tumbleweed: if you have some time, please could you review? [16:12] uscan says the latest version is "MediaKit" :) [16:13] tumbleweed: also, we're hoping to bring out a final version at the end of this month, would be great to get it into debian/ubuntu soon thereafter [16:13] tumbleweed: meh, how can I fix that? [16:13] only match numbers and dots in the watch file? [16:13] ah [16:13] * superfly goes to look [16:14] * superfly tries to referee a toddler and a kitten while doing a few other things [16:15] lol [16:15] that sounds fairly attention-consuming [16:16] tumbleweed: somewhat [16:18] wb SmilyBorg_h [16:18] hey there === SmilyBorg_h is now known as SmilyBorg [16:19] hmmmmm [16:19] wb hmmmmer [16:19] tumbleweed: OK, try now? [16:19] net not good today [16:21] superfly: I'd add a changelog entry for that [16:21] and use the right e-mail address for the changelog entry [16:22] mkay [16:35] tumbleweed: should I create a new changelog entry called 1.9.12-2 ? === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [16:44] no, we haven't uploaded -1 [16:56] hey Cantide how the exams go? [16:56] not bad :D [16:56] harder than I expected [16:56] but i sat for almost the full 2 hours this time [16:56] and completed all 12 pages of it '-' [16:56] so i should get a goodish mark :D [16:56] how was your Friday? [16:56] good at least you finished [16:57] yup [16:57] quiet ty [16:57] quiet is nice :) [16:57] na its boring [17:03] naand tannie magtie [17:04] only boring if you lack hobbies [17:04] hello oom kilos [17:04] i was too busy to do the things i wanted to do today... and it rained yet again, so i couldn't anyway [17:04] hehe [17:04] het hulle jou gese? [17:06] i go eat quick kinda [17:09] yummy! That was nice... [17:09] * inetpro just had a very tasty home made chicken salad twister wrap [17:10] chicken & salad* [17:12] Ha ! It works :) [17:13] mazal: wb [17:14] ta inetpro [17:18] Running of an external hdd now [17:19] hiya mazal [17:19] inetpro: share :D [17:20] tumbleweed: right, I've updated the tags, updated the changelog entry, and fixed the e-mail address [17:20] I dunno what I did wrong the previous time , but this time it was very easy [17:21] zeref: how? It's all inme stomach now? :-) [17:22] superfly: err, the date is also a month old. But I'm ok with ignoring that [17:22] s/? :/ :/ [17:22] inetpro: awwww [17:22] tumbleweed: ag, sorry, I'll fix that too [17:23] * zeref goes to dig in the fridge [17:23] zeref: sorry [17:24] hehe [17:25] Maaz, now you got buntu with you as long as you have the external [17:25] Kilos: If you say so [17:25] lekker hey [17:25] grrr [17:25] mazal, [17:25] Yes [17:26] tumbleweed: OK, fixed [17:26] * superfly needs to write this up so that he doesn't forget *again* [17:27] superfly: LGTM, uploading [17:27] I just can't get my chat setup [17:27] Can't remember how I added my gtalk account to empathy [17:27] tumbleweed: thank you, and thanks for your patience [17:28] uploads like this are so easy they're a joy :) [17:29] ah , nevermind , found it [17:29] mazal, im not sure empathy anymore but xmpp is the thing' [17:29] ah [17:29] i didnt like empathy. pidgin better [17:29] One forget these little things if you are used to seperate /home partition [17:29] Then no install needs config [17:30] ya i do that too [17:30] This is the first one I needed to config mail etc. in a long time [17:31] only if you have a prob and reinstall thew prob stays in home [17:31] then [17:32] no the [17:32] fingers too fat [17:32] Now I just need a little rsync for my docs and I'm good [17:33] more thunderbees tonight [17:35] tumbleweed: for the final release I'm going to write a patch to disable that version check [17:35] version check? [17:36] tumbleweed: yeah, like Firefox has a version check in the Windows version, OpenLP has a version check too [17:36] and I know that sort of thing should be disabled for packaged software [17:37] oh, yes, it should be [17:37] superfly, how big is it? [17:37] Kilos: OpenLP? by itself about 15 megs, but there are a number of libraries that it needs [17:38] how do i get it please [17:38] ppa thingie? [17:39] mazal, how much space on the external have you made for ubuntu? [17:40] Kilos: well, there's an older version in Ubuntu [17:40] oh ok i go look in synaptic ty [17:42] Kilos, 80gig [17:42] lekker [17:42] It was already there. I made it long ago for backing up /home data. So I sommer used it [17:43] openlp is 2.9 meg and total download is 4170 kB superfly lekker small [17:43] hehe [17:58] superfly, you made that whole thing? [18:00] once doing its config thingwith videos and music unticked total 17 meg [18:01] could enjoy uncapped methinks [18:02] Kilos: not just me, a team of us [18:03] very nice well done [18:03] oh images unticked as well [18:04] When I search for openlp I get no results ? [18:04] mazal: which version of Ubuntu? [18:04] 12.04 [18:05] mazal: you need to enable the backports repository [18:05] mazal, in synaptic [18:06] mazal: http://user-guide.openlp.org/_images/5-updates-backports.png [18:08] superfly, whats the backports thing [18:08] i didnt do anything extra [18:08] Kilos: that's an extra repository so that newer versions of software can be installed in older versions of Ubuntu [18:08] Kilos: which version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu are you using? [18:08] 12.04 [18:09] only have canonical partners etc added in repos [18:09] Ok , downloading [18:09] hrm... maybe you added it some other time? [18:10] whew [18:10] It still didn't show in software centre , but showed in synaptic [18:11] i dont use software centre its too slow and hard to find things [18:11] mazal: yeah, software centre is slow to update [18:11] synaptic rocks [18:12] Fortunately I installed my iso so I have synaptec [18:12] first things i do is install gdebi aptitude xchat pidgin and synaptic [18:12] was a shock when they started leaving synaptic out [18:13] What's gdebi ? [18:13] package manager [18:13] ah ok [18:13] if you got a pile of packages you can install with gdebi [18:14] i think its a package manager [18:14] it's more of a package file installer that makes sure you have all the dependencies installed as well [18:15] it finds what dependancies you got and still need and does the install [18:15] ah ty superfly [18:17] synaptic can do all upgrades and everything for you too [18:17] and fix broken packages [18:17] handy for someone not to cli proficient [18:18] Should try and remember that [18:18] should I mark all the plug-ins ? [18:18] if data no prob yes [18:18] Oeps , and if it is ? [18:18] then you have a complete app [18:19] i unticked movies images and music [18:19] then its basicall text [18:19] with cool gui stuff [18:21] it seems as if i have fixed my PC 'o' [18:21] get all the plugins when you on work internet [18:21] I see it has Bibles :) [18:21] what was wrong catide? [18:21] the freezing had become too frequent, so i finally changed the PSU today [18:21] which didn't seem to help much [18:21] Kilos: you can tick all the plugins without downloading anything extra [18:21] and eventually i started removing things... seems one of my RAM modules is faulty [18:21] oh ty superfly thats nice to know [18:22] And one can add unmarked things later yes ? [18:22] did you clean it and plug it back in Cantide [18:22] i tried that and it still froze [18:22] i dunno mazal will find out from the fly [18:22] i even tried different slots [18:23] then stuffed ya [18:23] well done [18:23] see no new pc needed just lekker to get one [18:23] i'll keep testing it for a few days before i decide that was really the problem :P [18:23] lol [18:23] because i can't replicate the freezing intentionally [18:23] I used mine for 2 days :( [18:23] then still dads to fix [18:23] it seemed to happen sporadically [18:23] Kilos, yeah :-S [18:23] after my trip :p [18:24] shame he has to wait [18:24] shame on you [18:24] poor papa [18:24] hahaha [18:24] hehe [18:24] he needs it - it forces him to get things done around the house [18:24] he uses windows [18:25] mazal: yes [18:25] mazal: the plugins you can enable in the plugin list, and the resources you can download again by re-running the wizard from the tools menu [18:26] Kilos, yeah, that'll teach him! [18:26] thats nice superfly [18:26] K , mine is downloading now the things I selected [18:26] haha leave it and say the koreans say ubuntu is the way to go [18:27] hahahaha [18:27] i installed Ubuntu on there so he could dual boot - even saw him using it a few times [18:27] just need to fix it up properly [18:27] and then remove windows [18:28] ah [18:28] lo smile4ever [18:28] havge you got openlp? [18:29] have as well [18:29] hi :D [18:30] Cantide, what does it actually do? [18:30] doesn't post [18:30] dead completely? [18:30] or if it does, it freezes after a few minutes [18:30] not completely [18:30] similar to what my PC was doing, only freezing faster [18:30] or not booting at all [18:30] freezes in winsucks or ubuntu? [18:31] virus [18:31] trojan donkey [18:32] both [18:32] i think it's overheating - didn't i tell you about the broken heatsink bracket? [18:32] whew yous bought ram same place same time [18:32] so i just need to open it up and check [18:32] oh ya [18:32] nope, i got them at different times, and they're different brands [18:33] cpu overheating [18:33] most likely, yes [18:33] but i am lazy :p [18:33] especially if it means drilling holes in the MB [18:33] they actually get hot very fast if heatsink and fan no good [18:33] to secure the heatsink [18:33] yes [18:34] i will see if i can salvage a bracket off an old board [18:35] sleep time :p [18:35] good night '-' [18:35] night can [18:35] grrr [18:36] evning [18:36] I got a blank screen and couldn't get out [18:36] hi Squirm [18:36] Lo Squirm [18:36] ouch mazal [18:39] Where do I stop xchat from auto-joining the ubuntu channel ? [18:40] don't see it in preferences [18:40] first little window it opens [18:40] you scroll to freenode then tick edit [18:41] the type in #ubuntu-za in favourite channels + others if you like [18:41] seperated with < [18:41] , [18:41] , [18:42] not < [18:42] I don't get that options on startup [18:42] ok [18:42] It joins freenode and joins ubuntu [18:42] top left [18:42] xchat [18:42] network list [18:42] then set it up [18:43] There's nothing there to setup , just gives a list of channels [18:43] scroll to freenode [18:43] tick it then tick edit [18:44] There's no freenode in the network menu [18:44] dont tick the skip network list till you got it as you want it [18:44] Just connect , disconnect , close , channels [18:44] where you put your nick in? [18:44] that window [18:44] must be a freenode [18:45] Right at the beginning , but it doesn't show that window anymore [18:45] under fefnet [18:45] you on xchat now?\ [18:46] mazal, talk to me [18:46] ah I found it , it's under preferences then network [18:47] I was looking at the main network menu [18:47] ah [18:48] and now I sommer found the nickserv password as well lol [18:48] Been looking for that for ages [18:48] lol [18:48] Every time I type it in manually :P [18:51] did you used to sit in the ubuntu channel? [18:51] mahem there [18:52] I looked in there once [18:52] But you can't even follow what is going on [18:52] nope [18:52] too many peeps all at once [18:53] Then every time I started up xchat I had to manually close that channel [18:53] and each one knows what he must answer to who [18:53] I dunno how they do it [18:53] now you will come here without probs [18:53] I got confused within seconds [18:53] yeah me too [18:53] madness is [18:54] Ok I'm off to bed [18:54] night mazal sleep tight [18:54] good night mazal :p [18:54] Lekker slaap oom Kilos [18:54] dankie boet [18:54] Night smile4ever [18:54] Night all [18:54] Blessings [18:54] ty [18:54] same there [18:58] smile4ever, why you dropped your e17 bit [19:01] night all . sleep tight. ty superfly [19:02] good night :p [19:02] :) [19:30] doei! :D === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [20:56] oh dear [20:56] how to set a file name as date in a script [20:56] ?? [21:20] ls [22:13] sigh [22:14] zeref... what? [22:15] i'm trying to set a folder to the name of the curretn date [22:15] *current folder to the current date [22:16] shell script? [22:17] yebo [22:17] is it not something like [22:18] first get the way you want to print the date [22:18] date =date +%d%m%y [22:19] no, spaces matter [22:20] date="date +%d%m%y" [22:20] oops no [22:20] date=$(date +%d%m%y") [22:21] that is the way zeref [22:21] then: mv $date [22:21] ahhh [22:22] thanks bakuman [22:22] working now :D [22:22] or if you want it in one line: mv $(date +%d%m%y) [22:22] :D [22:23] what i'm trying to do to to get the max id, adn printing the row [22:23] "select f_name,l_name,cell_number from customer where uid=(select max(uid) from customer)" [22:23] but according to some peeps that method is a bit slow [22:25] I'm mot a pro in sql queries :D [22:25] if postgres <=8.0 [22:25] mine is 8.4 [22:25] ? [22:25] but cannot think of anything that can be quicker than calling max [22:25] yeah [22:26] same here [22:26] mabe they have steroif up the max function in > 8.0 [22:26] *steriod [22:27] haha [22:28] btwm its that the only way to to get the last recorc in a database [22:28] if uid is auto incrementing, you can just select the last one [22:28] *record [22:28] yah [22:28] there should be a LAST call or something? [22:28] hmmmmmmm] [22:28] for postgresql [22:29] i've not seen one yet [22:29] I'm bust looking at the doc [22:31] in java [22:31] if i get it right [22:32] job almost secure [22:42] [22:43] SELECT fields FROM table ORDER BY id DESC LIMIT 1; [22:44] that seems to be the answer zeref [22:45] you tell it to sort by "uid" then get the first entry only in descending order [22:48] "select f_name,l_name,cell_number from customer ORDER BY uid DESC LIMIT 1" in your case [22:49] yes [22:50] it works, thanks bakuman [22:50] :D [23:05] K, [23:05] noe just need to add to it to a script [23:09] \o [23:09] o/