| adnanh | could you be more specific about the asymmetrical rays | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| adnanh | as in, every ray should be different length or as in they should be alternating | 00:09 |
| ochosi | knome: ^ | 00:10 |
| knome | adnanh, not every ray should be different, but there should be some variation, and not really alternating either | 00:10 |
| knome | alternating *might* work, but i'm not sure | 00:10 |
| adnanh | mhm | 00:10 |
| ochosi | i think you have to find a pattern or rhythm for them | 00:12 |
| knome | yup | 00:13 |
| adnanh | this a bit better? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17420410/Xubuntu/sun_4.svg | 00:14 |
| knome | hmm, for some reason, now it looks like 4 groups of 2 rays | 00:15 |
| knome | but maybe that's just me? | 00:15 |
| adnanh | hahaha | 00:15 |
| adnanh | happened to me with the old one | 00:15 |
| adnanh | depends where you look at, if you look at the center you see 4 groups of 2 rays | 00:15 |
| adnanh | if you look in the top right one, it should look a bit normal | 00:16 |
| adnanh | but either way I agree, it's bad | 00:16 |
| ochosi | knome: when layouting a page with divs, would you tend to hardcode widths or keep them at relative terms and try to handle the overflow somehow? | 00:18 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/shimmer/weather-icons/sun.svg | 00:19 |
| knome | relative | 00:19 |
| knome | what kind of overflow are you talking about? | 00:19 |
| ochosi | hmm, the orange part is a bit too thick for my taste | 00:19 |
| ochosi | knome: simple layouting with image and a few textboxes next to / on top of each other | 00:19 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/shimmer/weather-icons/sun2.svg | 00:19 |
| ochosi | what's the diff between sun and sun2? | 00:20 |
| knome | bigger middle part in 2 | 00:20 |
| ochosi | almost not noticeable | 00:20 |
| knome | you can always use #inside_div img { width: 100%; } | 00:21 |
| ochosi | maybe adjust the gradient | 00:21 |
| adnanh | ochosi, agreed | 00:22 |
| ochosi | knome: approx like this: http://imagebin.org/235193 | 00:23 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/shimmer/weather-icons/sun3.svg | 00:23 |
| knome | just try to keep the inner box widths in reasonable sizes | 00:23 |
| ochosi | and then hope for the best? | 00:24 |
| knome | you can always set #wrapper { min-width: sth; } | 00:24 |
| ochosi | if it overflows (at least if i work with float) it'll look aweful | 00:24 |
| knome | what overflows? | 00:24 |
| ochosi | -e | 00:24 |
| knome | images or text? | 00:24 |
| ochosi | text | 00:24 |
| knome | make the text size a bit smaller. | 00:24 |
| knome | and if you aren't controlling the content, hope for the best | 00:25 |
| ochosi | well i do control the content | 00:25 |
| ochosi | but i'd have to settle on a minimum resolution first i guess | 00:25 |
| knome | yes, you probably should do that | 00:25 |
| knome | btw, just a sec | 00:26 |
| knome | i'll tell you sth cool | 00:26 |
| ochosi | 1000px width seems fine, no? | 00:26 |
| knome | i'd maybe go for 990px, leaves a bit of breathing space in 1024 with scrollbar | 00:26 |
| ochosi | (what i hate most is that i have to write it all by myself, no php, no nothing on that server :( ) | 00:26 |
| knome | <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="only screen and (min-width:50px) and (max-width:500px)" href="css/screen_layout_small.css"> | 00:27 |
| knome | <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="only screen and (min-width:501px) and (max-width:800px)" href="css/screen_layout_medium.css"> | 00:27 |
| knome | ochosi, you can have multiple layouts for different media like that | 00:27 |
| knome | of course, doesn't work for everybody, but... | 00:27 |
| ochosi | yeah, too elaborate | 00:27 |
| ochosi | i just need a simple page until tomorrow | 00:27 |
| knome | yeah | 00:27 |
| knome | well, | 00:27 |
| knome | the first thing i'd do is try to keep the box widths reasonable | 00:28 |
| knome | if you can't rethink the layout | 00:28 |
| ochosi | and hardcode them? | 00:28 |
| knome | eg. put the two smallest boxes on top of each other | 00:28 |
| knome | and use different font-sizes to separate them | 00:29 |
| knome | no, not hardcode. just hardcode the min-width | 00:29 |
| knome | and make sure eg. 25% of that is not too little | 00:29 |
| knome | if you have 990px min-width in #wrapper, 25% is 250ish | 00:29 |
| knome | if that works for your content, good | 00:29 |
| knome | if not, rethink the layout | 00:29 |
| knome | or the content, if you can. | 00:30 |
| knome | but usually, the layout | 00:30 |
| ochosi | oh meh, i'm maybe too tired tonight for this kind of stuff | 00:30 |
| knome | with images, use { width: 100%; } to make sure they fallback nicely. | 00:30 |
| ochosi | it's just been ages that i coded html pages by hand from scratch | 00:30 |
| knome | heh | 00:31 |
| knome | if you don't care about the order of the content in markup, that's too easy to do | 00:31 |
| bkerensa | knome: why not enough bitesize xubuntu bugs | 00:36 |
| bkerensa | >.< | 00:36 |
| knome | bkerensa, thanks for volunteering to start making a list | 00:36 |
| adnanh | ok the sun icon has lost the meaning lol | 00:37 |
| adnanh | i really like http://temp.knome.fi/shimmer/weather-icons/sun3.svg tho | 00:37 |
| adnanh | well guys, it's really been nice meeting you :) | 00:41 |
| knome | adnanh, you too! | 00:41 |
| knome | see you around later | 00:41 |
| adnanh | 1:41 am already here so I'm heading straight to bed lol | 00:41 |
| ochosi | same here | 00:41 |
| knome | meh, boring guys. i'm +1 :P | 00:41 |
| adnanh | I got exams coming up, so I won't do much, but when they're over, I'll try to help more :) | 00:42 |
| knome | bkerensa, on a more serious tone, would you be willing to fix them or find contributors for them? we're trying to gather more of those for R, that's part of our blueprints... | 00:42 |
| ochosi | adnanh: nice, looking forward to it | 00:42 |
| adnanh | (11th november is the last one, already half way through them) | 00:43 |
| knome | adnanh, yeah, no problem, help as much as you can/feel like it | 00:43 |
| ochosi | and good luck with the exams | 00:43 |
| adnanh | and I'm really impressed with blender and cycles rendering engine | 00:43 |
| adnanh | thank you :) | 00:43 |
| adnanh | good night/rest of the day, and the sun icon looks a lot crisper now :) | 00:44 |
| adnanh | have fun :) | 00:44 |
| knome | nighty! | 00:59 |
| Noskcaj | the raring daily doesn't have a link to release notes, is this a bug or being worked on | 08:12 |
| Noskcaj | also is i meant to detect my location while in Vbox | 08:13 |
| Noskcaj | and the cursor flashes while scrolling through the slideshow | 08:21 |
| Noskcaj | all bugs in ubiquity? | 08:21 |
| Noskcaj | and i think partitioning was missing | 08:23 |
| ochosi | good question, could be something else as well | 08:29 |
| knome | raring daily? | 08:32 |
| knome | maybe wait for a few weeks at least | 08:33 |
| Noskcaj | i was trying to get some early bug reports | 08:35 |
| Noskcaj | partitioning is definatly gone | 08:35 |
| knome | well, don't try too hard | 08:36 |
| knome | it's still in the making | 08:36 |
| Noskcaj | i know but i'm a tester and thats my "job" | 08:37 |
| ochosi | :) | 08:37 |
| knome | kind of. | 08:37 |
| Noskcaj | can you try and triage when i have finished | 08:39 |
| astraljava | Next time I'm on my desktop, I'll wipe Studio off of the other disk (I have two), and upgrade to Xubuntu raring. | 08:39 |
| ochosi | quite _d_aring ;) | 08:40 |
| Noskcaj | bug 1076907 | 08:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1076907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No partitioning in raring daily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076907 | 08:40 |
| knome | ochosi, har har yar | 08:40 |
| astraljava | I have to show more trust on the devs when they say they're improving the stability of the dev cycle systems. | 08:40 |
| astraljava | quantal was already a success, didn't have booting issues even once, and I upgraded just before first alpha. | 08:41 |
| astraljava | Well, software-related. | 08:41 |
| astraljava | But even doko can't fix my crappy hardware. | 08:41 |
| Noskcaj | quantal was not a success i get 5 errors a day and the unity launcher doesn;t auto-show | 08:42 |
| Noskcaj | unless i use the dev nvidia driver and then i get more bugs | 08:42 |
| astraljava | Noskcaj: Ehh... not using unity. | 08:42 |
| Noskcaj | i know this is the wrong forum go away | 08:42 |
| knome | bbl | 08:42 |
| astraljava | No I'm not asking you to go away, just noted as much. :) | 08:43 |
| Noskcaj | i know | 08:43 |
| Unit193 | What kernel is raring on? | 08:48 |
| Noskcaj | is raring meant to have an install progress bar | 08:49 |
| adnanh | Hello :) | 10:39 |
| ochosi | hi | 10:40 |
| adnanh | haha, knome didn't push the sun last night? :) | 10:46 |
| ochosi | no, it wasn't final :) | 10:46 |
| adnanh | :) | 10:46 |
| adnanh | what's up anyway, what did I miss haha | 10:48 |
| ochosi | not much, had to do some commercial work | 10:49 |
| ochosi | i thought you have to study for your exams? :p | 10:49 |
| adnanh | I do, making a break, I'm on my phone :) | 10:51 |
| ochosi | ah, i see | 10:51 |
| adnanh | Raring will not have partitioning? What? | 10:51 |
| ochosi | no, that#s just an early testing bug | 10:51 |
| adnanh | Ahh :D | 10:52 |
| adnanh | Regarding the xubuntu-artwork-extras, installer could ask users if they want to download it, like the restricted xtras and language packs :o | 10:57 |
| ochosi | yeah, those things could prolly be done | 11:00 |
| ochosi | we were also considering showing app-sets to install | 11:00 |
| ochosi | but it really mainly is for ppl who use xubuntu for the first time | 11:01 |
| ochosi | all others pretty much know what they want | 11:01 |
| adnanh | Well yeah | 11:01 |
| adnanh | But it wouldn't hurt to have that, those who know what they want can just forward skip it | 11:02 |
| adnanh | And the newbies will probably like it | 11:02 |
| ochosi | yeah, prolly | 11:04 |
| ochosi | i guess we have to find someone who would do the technical implementation then | 11:05 |
| adnanh | :) | 11:06 |
| adnanh | Btw, did terminal background change in 12.10 from that grey color | 11:07 |
| adnanh | I only remember changing it myself in 12.04 before upgrading to 10 | 11:08 |
| ochosi | yes | 11:08 |
| adnanh | Great haha :D | 11:09 |
| adnanh | Greyt xD pun intended | 11:11 |
| ochosi | :} | 11:12 |
| adnanh | What timezone are you in? | 11:15 |
| ochosi | gmt+1 | 11:16 |
| adnanh | Ah, me too :) | 11:17 |
| adnanh | Knome is gmt+2? | 11:18 |
| ochosi | yup | 11:18 |
| adnanh | For some reason I expected you guys to be in totally different timezones than me | 11:20 |
| adnanh | Always used to happen when I join some community xD | 11:21 |
| ochosi | not all of us are in this tz | 11:22 |
| Unit193 | 06:27 | 11:27 |
| astraljava | No, but all the cool ones are. *blink* *blink* | 11:31 |
| ochosi | :) | 11:35 |
| pjotr | Hello, I have a feature request for Xubuntu, concerning the current feature of disabling the touchpad while typing. | 12:24 |
| pjotr | the current feature is set at: syndaemon -i 2.0 -K -R | 12:24 |
| pjotr | preferable would be (IMHO): syndaemon -i 0.5 -K -R -t | 12:25 |
| pjotr | the lag is now 2 seconds, which is huge. Plus there's no need to disable the movements of the mouse pointer | 12:25 |
| pjotr | In Ubuntu, the -t option is already default (with the same 2 seconds delay) | 12:26 |
| pjotr | mr_pouit: what do you think? | 12:27 |
| mr_pouit | pjotr: you should file a bug upstream about that | 12:51 |
| adnanh | https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2012-November/msg00009.html | 13:07 |
| adnanh | gnome3 drops fallback mode | 13:07 |
| adnanh | whaaat | 13:07 |
| adnanh | and debian drops xfce as default wm | 13:11 |
| adnanh | oh boy | 13:11 |
| adnanh | ^ http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2012/20121018 | 13:12 |
| mr_pouit | xfce wasn't the default wm in debian anyway | 13:13 |
| adnanh | i think it was going to be after the gnome wasn't going to fit on the cd1 | 13:13 |
| adnanh | but that changed :D | 13:13 |
| pjotr | mr_pouit: OK, I'll file it as a bug upstream. I hope I'm in time for Xfce 4.12.... | 13:40 |
| ochosi | knome: the icons even look quite nice when upscaled: http://imagebin.org/235245 | 16:06 |
| ochosi | adnanh: ^ | 16:06 |
| adnanh | is that new sun or the old one | 16:09 |
| adnanh | but they do look great :) | 16:09 |
| ochosi | it's the old/current sun | 16:11 |
| ochosi | i'm still not convinced of changing the style | 16:11 |
| ochosi | i have to see something i consider really better/superior before i change it :) | 16:11 |
| adnanh | yea | 16:15 |
| adnanh | I don't mind the old ones as well :) | 16:15 |
| ochosi | still haven't decided how to change the style for the larger resolutions | 16:18 |
| ochosi | maybe i'll just make the lines/shapes thinner and more elegant | 16:19 |
| ochosi | i don't wanna replace the "symbolic" simplistic look with "realistic" i think | 16:19 |
| ochosi | (and not only because it'd be a lot of work) | 16:19 |
| adnanh | hmm | 16:36 |
| adnanh | should the sun loose gradient to make it more consistent with clouds? | 16:36 |
| adnanh | and moon | 16:36 |
| adnanh | lose* | 16:37 |
| ochosi | probably | 16:38 |
| ochosi | in 22px it's not very noticeable | 16:38 |
| ochosi | it just makes the sun a bit smoother | 16:39 |
| adnanh | tru | 16:39 |
| adnanh | true* | 16:39 |
| adnanh | and yeah, the heavy rain raindrops could maybe have thinner lines | 16:41 |
| ochosi | bbl | 16:42 |
| adnanh | k | 16:44 |
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