[00:09] could you be more specific about the asymmetrical rays [00:09] as in, every ray should be different length or as in they should be alternating [00:10] knome: ^ [00:10] adnanh, not every ray should be different, but there should be some variation, and not really alternating either [00:10] alternating *might* work, but i'm not sure [00:10] mhm [00:12] i think you have to find a pattern or rhythm for them [00:13] yup [00:14] this a bit better? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17420410/Xubuntu/sun_4.svg [00:15] hmm, for some reason, now it looks like 4 groups of 2 rays [00:15] but maybe that's just me? [00:15] hahaha [00:15] happened to me with the old one [00:15] depends where you look at, if you look at the center you see 4 groups of 2 rays [00:16] if you look in the top right one, it should look a bit normal [00:16] but either way I agree, it's bad [00:18] knome: when layouting a page with divs, would you tend to hardcode widths or keep them at relative terms and try to handle the overflow somehow? [00:19] http://temp.knome.fi/shimmer/weather-icons/sun.svg [00:19] relative [00:19] what kind of overflow are you talking about? [00:19] hmm, the orange part is a bit too thick for my taste [00:19] knome: simple layouting with image and a few textboxes next to / on top of each other [00:19] http://temp.knome.fi/shimmer/weather-icons/sun2.svg [00:20] what's the diff between sun and sun2? [00:20] bigger middle part in 2 [00:20] almost not noticeable [00:21] you can always use #inside_div img { width: 100%; } [00:21] maybe adjust the gradient [00:22] ochosi, agreed [00:23] knome: approx like this: http://imagebin.org/235193 [00:23] http://temp.knome.fi/shimmer/weather-icons/sun3.svg [00:23] just try to keep the inner box widths in reasonable sizes [00:24] and then hope for the best? [00:24] you can always set #wrapper { min-width: sth; } [00:24] if it overflows (at least if i work with float) it'll look aweful [00:24] what overflows? [00:24] -e [00:24] images or text? [00:24] text [00:24] make the text size a bit smaller. [00:25] and if you aren't controlling the content, hope for the best [00:25] well i do control the content [00:25] but i'd have to settle on a minimum resolution first i guess [00:25] yes, you probably should do that [00:26] btw, just a sec [00:26] i'll tell you sth cool [00:26] 1000px width seems fine, no? [00:26] i'd maybe go for 990px, leaves a bit of breathing space in 1024 with scrollbar [00:26] (what i hate most is that i have to write it all by myself, no php, no nothing on that server :( ) [00:27] [00:27] [00:27] ochosi, you can have multiple layouts for different media like that [00:27] of course, doesn't work for everybody, but... [00:27] yeah, too elaborate [00:27] i just need a simple page until tomorrow [00:27] yeah [00:27] well, [00:28] the first thing i'd do is try to keep the box widths reasonable [00:28] if you can't rethink the layout [00:28] and hardcode them? [00:28] eg. put the two smallest boxes on top of each other [00:29] and use different font-sizes to separate them [00:29] no, not hardcode. just hardcode the min-width [00:29] and make sure eg. 25% of that is not too little [00:29] if you have 990px min-width in #wrapper, 25% is 250ish [00:29] if that works for your content, good [00:29] if not, rethink the layout [00:30] or the content, if you can. [00:30] but usually, the layout [00:30] oh meh, i'm maybe too tired tonight for this kind of stuff [00:30] with images, use { width: 100%; } to make sure they fallback nicely. [00:30] it's just been ages that i coded html pages by hand from scratch [00:31] heh [00:31] if you don't care about the order of the content in markup, that's too easy to do [00:36] knome: why not enough bitesize xubuntu bugs [00:36] >.< [00:36] bkerensa, thanks for volunteering to start making a list [00:37] ok the sun icon has lost the meaning lol [00:37] i really like http://temp.knome.fi/shimmer/weather-icons/sun3.svg tho [00:41] well guys, it's really been nice meeting you :) [00:41] adnanh, you too! [00:41] see you around later [00:41] 1:41 am already here so I'm heading straight to bed lol [00:41] same here [00:41] meh, boring guys. i'm +1 :P [00:42] I got exams coming up, so I won't do much, but when they're over, I'll try to help more :) [00:42] bkerensa, on a more serious tone, would you be willing to fix them or find contributors for them? we're trying to gather more of those for R, that's part of our blueprints... [00:42] adnanh: nice, looking forward to it [00:43] (11th november is the last one, already half way through them) [00:43] adnanh, yeah, no problem, help as much as you can/feel like it [00:43] and good luck with the exams [00:43] and I'm really impressed with blender and cycles rendering engine [00:43] thank you :) [00:44] good night/rest of the day, and the sun icon looks a lot crisper now :) [00:44] have fun :) [00:59] nighty! [08:12] the raring daily doesn't have a link to release notes, is this a bug or being worked on [08:13] also is i meant to detect my location while in Vbox [08:21] and the cursor flashes while scrolling through the slideshow [08:21] all bugs in ubiquity? [08:23] and i think partitioning was missing [08:29] good question, could be something else as well [08:32] raring daily? [08:33] maybe wait for a few weeks at least [08:35] i was trying to get some early bug reports [08:35] partitioning is definatly gone [08:36] well, don't try too hard [08:36] it's still in the making [08:37] i know but i'm a tester and thats my "job" [08:37] :) [08:37] kind of. [08:39] can you try and triage when i have finished [08:39] Next time I'm on my desktop, I'll wipe Studio off of the other disk (I have two), and upgrade to Xubuntu raring. [08:40] quite _d_aring ;) [08:40] bug 1076907 [08:40] Launchpad bug 1076907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No partitioning in raring daily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076907 [08:40] ochosi, har har yar [08:40] I have to show more trust on the devs when they say they're improving the stability of the dev cycle systems. [08:41] quantal was already a success, didn't have booting issues even once, and I upgraded just before first alpha. [08:41] Well, software-related. [08:41] But even doko can't fix my crappy hardware. [08:42] quantal was not a success i get 5 errors a day and the unity launcher doesn;t auto-show [08:42] unless i use the dev nvidia driver and then i get more bugs [08:42] Noskcaj: Ehh... not using unity. [08:42] i know this is the wrong forum go away [08:42] bbl [08:43] No I'm not asking you to go away, just noted as much. :) [08:43] i know [08:48] What kernel is raring on? [08:49] is raring meant to have an install progress bar [10:39] Hello :) [10:40] hi [10:46] haha, knome didn't push the sun last night? :) [10:46] no, it wasn't final :) [10:46] :) [10:48] what's up anyway, what did I miss haha [10:49] not much, had to do some commercial work [10:49] i thought you have to study for your exams? :p [10:51] I do, making a break, I'm on my phone :) [10:51] ah, i see [10:51] Raring will not have partitioning? What? [10:51] no, that#s just an early testing bug [10:52] Ahh :D [10:57] Regarding the xubuntu-artwork-extras, installer could ask users if they want to download it, like the restricted xtras and language packs :o [11:00] yeah, those things could prolly be done [11:00] we were also considering showing app-sets to install [11:01] but it really mainly is for ppl who use xubuntu for the first time [11:01] all others pretty much know what they want [11:01] Well yeah [11:02] But it wouldn't hurt to have that, those who know what they want can just forward skip it [11:02] And the newbies will probably like it [11:04] yeah, prolly [11:05] i guess we have to find someone who would do the technical implementation then [11:06] :) [11:07] Btw, did terminal background change in 12.10 from that grey color [11:08] I only remember changing it myself in 12.04 before upgrading to 10 [11:08] yes [11:09] Great haha :D [11:11] Greyt xD pun intended [11:12] :} [11:15] What timezone are you in? [11:16] gmt+1 [11:17] Ah, me too :) [11:18] Knome is gmt+2? [11:18] yup [11:20] For some reason I expected you guys to be in totally different timezones than me [11:21] Always used to happen when I join some community xD [11:22] not all of us are in this tz [11:27] 06:27 [11:31] No, but all the cool ones are. *blink* *blink* [11:35] :) [12:24] Hello, I have a feature request for Xubuntu, concerning the current feature of disabling the touchpad while typing. [12:24] the current feature is set at: syndaemon -i 2.0 -K -R [12:25] preferable would be (IMHO): syndaemon -i 0.5 -K -R -t [12:25] the lag is now 2 seconds, which is huge. Plus there's no need to disable the movements of the mouse pointer [12:26] In Ubuntu, the -t option is already default (with the same 2 seconds delay) [12:27] mr_pouit: what do you think? [12:51] pjotr: you should file a bug upstream about that [13:07] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2012-November/msg00009.html [13:07] gnome3 drops fallback mode [13:07] whaaat [13:11] and debian drops xfce as default wm [13:11] oh boy [13:12] ^ http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2012/20121018 [13:13] xfce wasn't the default wm in debian anyway [13:13] i think it was going to be after the gnome wasn't going to fit on the cd1 [13:13] but that changed :D [13:40] mr_pouit: OK, I'll file it as a bug upstream. I hope I'm in time for Xfce 4.12.... [16:06] knome: the icons even look quite nice when upscaled: http://imagebin.org/235245 [16:06] adnanh: ^ [16:09] is that new sun or the old one [16:09] but they do look great :) [16:11] it's the old/current sun [16:11] i'm still not convinced of changing the style [16:11] i have to see something i consider really better/superior before i change it :) [16:15] yea [16:15] I don't mind the old ones as well :) [16:18] still haven't decided how to change the style for the larger resolutions [16:19] maybe i'll just make the lines/shapes thinner and more elegant [16:19] i don't wanna replace the "symbolic" simplistic look with "realistic" i think [16:19] (and not only because it'd be a lot of work) [16:36] hmm [16:36] should the sun loose gradient to make it more consistent with clouds? [16:36] and moon [16:37] lose* [16:38] probably [16:38] in 22px it's not very noticeable [16:39] it just makes the sun a bit smoother [16:39] tru [16:39] true* [16:41] and yeah, the heavy rain raindrops could maybe have thinner lines [16:42] bbl [16:44] k === yofel_ is now known as yofel