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Cigamhey all again. anyone else know of a way to fix my 24bit to be 32bit?00:30
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k_szeWhen changing BIOS settings, what difference does the "Plug and Play O/S" option make for ubuntu? Can Xubuntu handle all the PnP hardware correctly (my biggest concern is my nVidia-based PCIx graphics card)?01:46
Justakillwhy oh why are most games on windows....02:27
drc$02:28
Unit193!steam02:28
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their devlopment, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details02:28
Justakillthings are changing at the moment which is awesome but why!!!02:28
Justakillyea02:28
JustakillHows that getting along, anyone a tester for the beta?02:30
benTQ7Hello, is this thing on?03:44
holsteinbenTQ7: feel free to check the topic and ask a question of the volunteers here if you need03:47
benTQ7never used IRC before, but I'm looking for some help with a new xubuntu install03:48
benTQ7OK, I've just installed xubuntu on my laptop, dual booting with winXP. took a while but got there eventually. installed updates and all seen03:55
benTQ7oops, ...all seemed ok but now it's all locked up - mouse frozen and I don't know how to proceed, short of hitting the power button. btw I'm new to linux. Is there a ctrl,alt,del equivalent?04:00
holsteinsure.. theres control alt delete... but remember in windows, when that doenst work, its similar in windows04:02
holsteinbenTQ7: you need to decide what you would like to do... i might reinstall if i were at your stage, and just not update04:02
holstein!tty04:02
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution04:02
holstein^^ you can use that to seee if the system is locked up, or if its just the graphics04:03
holsteinyou can also tap the shift key, and look in the grub list and boot the last kernel that was working...04:04
benTQ7I can't get to the terminal or type anything04:06
holsteinbenTQ7: that will help you determine the issue04:12
holsteinbenTQ7: if you try tty and cant, that is data... the machine might be frozen04:13
benTQ7holstein: I somehow found a shutdown dialogue, and rebooted to recovery mode. Tried repair broken packages and I'm now back at recovery menu. any advice?04:16
holsteinbenTQ7: sure... after it "locks up" use tty as i mentioned above to determine if the machine is still running and its just the graphics that are locked up04:24
holsteinbenTQ7: OR, just reinstall, and dont upgrade anything04:25
benTQ7OK rebooted and logged in. mouse froze immediately. I don't understand what you mean by tty. nothing happens if i type it. should i type it in the terminal? how do I get there without a mouse?04:40
holstein!tty04:41
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution04:41
holsteinbenTQ7: you use the keys above04:41
holsteincontrol and alt and F1..04:41
holsteinif you get a command prompt, the machine is not locked up04:41
benTQ7holstein: ctrl,alt +F1 gives me a black screen04:44
holsteinbenTQ7: can you type in it? or no?04:47
benTQ7No04:48
holsteinbenTQ7: if you can type in the top, your machine is not locked up04:48
holsteinbenTQ7: you tried booting an earlier kernel?04:49
benTQ7holsten: Just pressed the power button and some text popped up... and yes I can type in it. seems it's a terminal. just logged in with it and have a prompt (never seen a terminal before - I said I was new!04:56
holsteinbenTQ7: you can type 'h' or 'hol' and hit the tab key. that will auto complete my nick04:57
holsteinbenTQ7: you can use sudo reboot if you need04:57
holsteinbenTQ7: i would try rebooting using the older kernel.. tapping shift04:58
benTQ7holstein: older kernel?05:01
holsteinbenTQ7: if you upgraded the kernel could be something that is breaking functionality05:01
holsteinbenTQ7: you reboot... tap shift.. you'll see "previous ubuntu kernels" or versions... previous something05:02
holsteinbenTQ7: second in the list.. then you choose an earlier kernel.. the one that workd.. boot in.. see if that is the issue05:02
Unit193holstein: Do you know much about configuring kernels? :P05:02
holsteinUnit193: its a good thing im not configuring a kernel and just booting an older one :)05:03
Unit193Hah, alright.05:03
holsteinUnit193:  i was thinking it would be kernel upgrade broke it or force fsck on reboot05:04
Unit193(This was actually an unrelated question)05:04
holsteinlol.. Unit193, not enough about kernels to be helpful im afraid, whats up?05:05
benTQ7previous versions gives me 3.2.0-29-generic and same with recovery mode05:06
Unit193holstein: Heh, just having a little bit of an issue with compiling one, and using another.05:06
holsteinbenTQ7: i would try the oldest one there05:06
holsteinUnit193: i need to get into it.. i'd like to help with the ubuntustudio lowlatency one.. i still havent complied my own05:07
benTQ7holstein: tried that, just got a static splash screen, no progress05:11
holsteinbenTQ7: and tty?05:12
holsteinbenTQ7: tty is a nice troubleshooting step.. plus, you can reboot05:12
benTQ7holstein: booted previous kernel (3.2.0-29-generic) and same issue - no mouse. tty does nothing. ctrl,alt,F1 gives blank screen. power button brings up terminal log-in dialogue....05:23
holsteinbenTQ7: i would consider reinstalling.. you can try fsck05:24
holstein!fsck05:24
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot05:24
xubuntu380hi05:26
xubuntu380I wolu know if somebody has solved the known bug05:27
xubuntu380about the visualization of two icons for every one partition on desktop05:28
xubuntu380I "would"05:28
holsteinxubuntu380: i know that is being addressed.. iwould just add yourself to the bug05:28
xubuntu380ok add me05:29
xubuntu380it's a really mind-break this bug05:31
holsteinxubuntu380: you make an account and add yourself to the bug, so you will be able to keep up05:31
holsteinxubuntu380: i just disabled one set of them05:32
xubuntu380ok05:32
xubuntu380i'll do05:33
Unit193It's in proposed.05:33
benTQ7holstein: thanks for your help. gotta sleep now - I'll try again tomorrow. I think you're right that a re-install is the way to go.06:05
nikolamHi I downloaded 12.04 alternate and used windows-based unetbootin to write it to a 1 Gig flash drive.06:09
nikolamBut installation to a 4 gig drive on asus eeepc 701 , divided as 3.5G for Btrfs / and 512MB for swap (there is 512MB RAM) is VERY slow and HD LED lights all the time06:10
nikolamit is doing install straigth 10+ hours now06:10
nikolamI did something wrong / not advised? Is using Btrfs not advised on small cheap SSD found inside eeepc?06:11
nikolamis 3.5G of space too little for Xubuntu and should I download some other image but alternate .iso to burn on usb, etc?06:12
nikolaminstalling alternate 12.04 on btrfs on eeepc 701 is very slow. I reinstall on ext4.09:36
nikolami have no idea how to pass -noatime before mounting to speed it up for btrfs.09:39
nikolambut I think I can convet to btrfs post-install09:39
nikolamor stay with ext4 if I forget snapshots09:39
nikolamOH. If I set up Lan network prefernces and network is unavailable, I can not make install , it fails on package selection...09:40
GrandCouillonHello guys ! did anyone figure out how to make google earth work on 12.10 ?10:17
baizonGrandCouillon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth10:21
GrandCouillonbaizon, Ok but this doesn't point to version 7 of google earth10:26
baizonGrandCouillon: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/install-google-earth-7-in-ubuntu.html10:26
GrandCouillonbaizon, yes but this doesn't work (look at the comments, I am not alone)10:27
baizonGrandCouillon: what doesnt work?10:28
baizondo you got an error msg?10:28
GrandCouillonbaizon, if you start it the splash screen appears and google earth crashes10:29
baizonwith what error msg?10:29
GrandCouillonbaizon, version seems ok10:29
baizonGrandCouillon:  with what error msg?10:31
baizondo you get the crash10:31
GrandCouillonyes it crashes10:31
GrandCouillonversion 6 is ok10:31
baizonGrandCouillon:  with what error msg?10:32
GrandCouillonbut version 7 doesn't work10:32
baizoni need more input10:32
GrandCouillonMajor Version 710:33
GrandCouillonMinor Version 010:33
GrandCouillonBuild Number 000110:33
GrandCouillonBuild Date Oct 29 201210:33
GrandCouillonBuild Time 19:13:3910:33
GrandCouillonOS Type 310:33
GrandCouillonOS Major Version 310:33
GrandCouillonOS Minor Version 510:33
GrandCouillonOS Build Version 010:33
GrandCouillonOS Patch Version 010:33
GrandCouillonCrash Signal 1110:33
GrandCouillonCrash Time 135245534710:33
GrandCouillonUp Time 0,63864710:33
baizonGrandCouillon: please use paste.ubuntu.com for that10:33
GrandCouillonStacktrace from glibc:10:33
GrandCouillon./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0x1e9cfb)[0xf75e3cfb]10:33
GrandCouillon./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0x1e9f43)[0xf75e3f43]10:33
GrandCouillon[0xf778e400]10:33
GrandCouillonsorry10:33
Yotson /ignore GrandCouillon10:33
Yotsonff.10:33
baizonGrandCouillon: launch google earth from terminal and watch the output10:34
baizonwhen it crashes post it on paste.ubuntu.com10:34
GrandCouillonJust a minute, I reinstall it10:37
baizonok10:37
baizonGrandCouillon: you can try to purge the config file10:37
GrandCouillonbaizon, it nearly only says : Google Earth has caught signal 11.10:38
GrandCouillonand points to a crashlog like the one a "stupidly" pasted here10:39
baizonGrandCouillon: check   /home/<username>/.googleearth/crashlogs/10:39
baizonand thats what you have posted here?10:40
GrandCouillonyes10:41
GrandCouillonthe problem seems to be present on all 12.10 flavors10:41
baizonwell yes10:41
baizonso it has to be fixed from google :)10:42
GrandCouillonI hope so :)10:42
GrandCouillonthanks, have a nice day10:43
Justakilli'm far from the sort of person who engages in trolling, but i get this urge to troll the windows channel every once in while.11:35
JustakillLuckily i don't act on it though.11:36
JustakillIs the're an IRC channel made for venting out on these issues?11:36
Yotson##vent ?11:37
Justakill?? thought that might be a ventrilo channel or something11:38
Justakilli will try it out11:38
Yotson:P11:39
Justakillno its empty.11:39
Yotsonwell, i was there.11:39
Yotsonlame joke. nevermind.11:39
Justakilllol np11:40
Justakilli guess the best thing to do is not watch a video with steve ballmer talking11:40
Yotsoni'm sure that will help. :)11:42
JustakillHow a guy like that ever became a billionaire is proof the're is something wrong with this world.11:42
TheSheepdo you know that there is a #xubuntu-offtopic channel that is is excellent for this kind of chat? :)11:42
Justakillthanks TheSheep11:42
emanoeljuliobasileiros?????12:19
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deebobeen browsing the internets and can't find info on replacing xscreensaver in 12.10, anyone got any tips/links?16:14
holsteindeebo: i just removed it and installed another16:14
deebolaptop installation so black screen + lock is fine, xscreensaver is just ugly as hell16:14
deeboholstein: i tried gnome-screensaver, but seems the packaging has changed some since 12.04 or 11.10, the instructions had references to binaries i didnt find16:15
holsteindeebo: cool... i would just search 'screensaver' and start trying them..16:15
nelson2I've searched for this for a while but can't find an answer: how to you turn off auto arrange for desktop icons in Xubuntu 12.10? thanks16:33
holsteinnelson2: read down through all of them.. #6 specificaly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180066016:38
holsteinmaybe http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=609716:39
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xubuntu075dougpol116:48
xubuntu075Just installed xubuntu and checking out Irc16:50
baizonwelcome :)16:50
nelson2I dont have a log of my previous chat, but thanks to the people that helped me with the desktop icon auto arrange in 12.10! It worked.18:03
holsteinnelson2: anytime!18:07
xubuntu980Hi, I just installed Xubuntu, and am having trouble connecting to the wifi in my house now18:36
xubuntu980anyboldy able to help? Thanks18:36
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xubuntu732I have a toshiba satellite A215-S4767 laptop that I just put Xubuntu on. I seems to run just fine, except it will not restart. I can shut it down and then power it up and it comes on fine, but it will not automatically restart. I have updated to the latest BIOS with no change.19:22
xubuntu732I also have Xubuntu installed on an HP Pavilion laptop with no problems. Any help with the restart issue would be appreciated. Thanks19:24
JustakillWhat would happen with corrupted memory on a linux system?19:39
Justakillif something went wrong in the connection between memory and cpu?19:40
Justakilli19:42
genii-aroundJustakill: Almost always you'll end up with a kernel panic and core dump20:02
genii-aroundJustakill: If you're concerned you may have bad ram, should run memtest on it20:02
Justakillgenii-around: does that mean shut down, i did do a memtest i havnt' got anything out of it though did 9 passes didn't register anythin20:04
Justakillgenii-around: i actually have a lot of bluescreens on my windows install, just wondering if xubuntu could give me a more understandble explanation compared to windows20:05
genii-aroundJustakill: If it went 9 passes fine, i'd say your ram is fine.20:05
Justakillgenii-around: yea was just wondering what would happen on xubuntu because i've had enough of windows, i use it only for games but at this point i'm willing to give up on gaming20:06
genii-aroundJustakill: In *buntu the usual symptoms of bad ram when the machine is running will either be kernel panic ( the computer locks up and all three keyboard lights blink on and off ) or an application you are running will crash for no reason.20:09
Justakillgenii-around: is the're anyway an OS can specifically detect the problem?20:11
genii-aroundJustakill: Not usually. If you have ECC ram then maybe, but otherwise not. That's what utilities like memtest are for.20:12
Justakillgenii-around: thanks for you're help, feel kinda helpless not sure where to look for the problem...20:16
bird_do I really need adode flash player to view videos in firefox or is there a non corporate, like open source alternative.20:36
adnanhhmm, maybe lightspark?20:39
bird_cool thanks. will try.20:39
adnanhbird_, http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/02/lightspark-open-source-alternative-to.html20:40
adnanhthat might help20:40
deeboanyone running xmonad with xfce? im having weird problems using mod4mask20:42
bird_cool thanks for that link. im installing it.20:57
adnanh:)21:01
HibikinDoes the open source ati driver have better or worder hardware acceleration then the fglrx driver? I need to find a way to have vlc or so play a h264 mp4 file capturing x11 with ffmpeg and encoding it, but VLC is eating alot of resources.22:41
holsteinHibikin: i usually try them both.. it can depend on your hardware22:42
HibikinWell, it's a Q6600 with a ati radeon x1300, unfortunally, when I install fglrx it falls back to a lower resolution and CCC says that there is no driver22:43
holsteinHibikin: i would expect to make a custom xorg.conf.. typically the proprietary ones that come fromt he vendors are "better"22:44
HibikinHm, that might be a idea. However, not sure where to start22:45
holstein!ati22:46
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:46
HibikinAh thanks, let's see how that goes22:47
holsteinHibikin: there are some changes in the "jockey" that usually tells you what is available.. but AFAIK installing them manually will work22:47
HibikinWell I tried to install the fglrx driver manually, but it didn't had the latest distro so I couldn't do much with --buildpkg22:48
adnanhHibikin, my mobility worked better with fglrx22:53
xubuntu486good evening22:53
adnanhand then it got broken with 12.1022:53
HibikinHm, downgrading might be a option as well22:54
adnanhbut in 12.04 it worked great22:54
HibikinWell there are many possibilities to archieve what I want in the end22:54
xubuntu486This is cool. The xubuntu installer is running right now. Still I'm able to get in here to say hi.22:54
adnanh:-)22:54
adnanhhi to you too :)22:54
xubuntu486:-)22:55
adnanhand welcome :)22:55
xubuntu486Thank you.22:55
HibikinI've got to get this server working perfectly before a live video event as it will handle the streaming to a remote host22:55
adnanhas  holstein, try them both and see :)22:56
HibikinYup, another way would be to use mpeg2/4 for the playback file22:56

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