[00:30] hey all again. anyone else know of a way to fix my 24bit to be 32bit? === emma is now known as em [01:46] When changing BIOS settings, what difference does the "Plug and Play O/S" option make for ubuntu? Can Xubuntu handle all the PnP hardware correctly (my biggest concern is my nVidia-based PCIx graphics card)? [02:27] why oh why are most games on windows.... [02:28] $ [02:28] !steam [02:28] Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their devlopment, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details [02:28] things are changing at the moment which is awesome but why!!! [02:28] yea [02:30] Hows that getting along, anyone a tester for the beta? [03:44] Hello, is this thing on? [03:47] benTQ7: feel free to check the topic and ask a question of the volunteers here if you need [03:48] never used IRC before, but I'm looking for some help with a new xubuntu install [03:55] OK, I've just installed xubuntu on my laptop, dual booting with winXP. took a while but got there eventually. installed updates and all seen [04:00] oops, ...all seemed ok but now it's all locked up - mouse frozen and I don't know how to proceed, short of hitting the power button. btw I'm new to linux. Is there a ctrl,alt,del equivalent? [04:02] sure.. theres control alt delete... but remember in windows, when that doenst work, its similar in windows [04:02] benTQ7: you need to decide what you would like to do... i might reinstall if i were at your stage, and just not update [04:02] !tty [04:02] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [04:03] ^^ you can use that to seee if the system is locked up, or if its just the graphics [04:04] you can also tap the shift key, and look in the grub list and boot the last kernel that was working... [04:06] I can't get to the terminal or type anything [04:12] benTQ7: that will help you determine the issue [04:13] benTQ7: if you try tty and cant, that is data... the machine might be frozen [04:16] holstein: I somehow found a shutdown dialogue, and rebooted to recovery mode. Tried repair broken packages and I'm now back at recovery menu. any advice? [04:24] benTQ7: sure... after it "locks up" use tty as i mentioned above to determine if the machine is still running and its just the graphics that are locked up [04:25] benTQ7: OR, just reinstall, and dont upgrade anything [04:40] OK rebooted and logged in. mouse froze immediately. I don't understand what you mean by tty. nothing happens if i type it. should i type it in the terminal? how do I get there without a mouse? [04:41] !tty [04:41] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [04:41] benTQ7: you use the keys above [04:41] control and alt and F1.. [04:41] if you get a command prompt, the machine is not locked up [04:44] holstein: ctrl,alt +F1 gives me a black screen [04:47] benTQ7: can you type in it? or no? [04:48] No [04:48] benTQ7: if you can type in the top, your machine is not locked up [04:49] benTQ7: you tried booting an earlier kernel? [04:56] holsten: Just pressed the power button and some text popped up... and yes I can type in it. seems it's a terminal. just logged in with it and have a prompt (never seen a terminal before - I said I was new! [04:57] benTQ7: you can type 'h' or 'hol' and hit the tab key. that will auto complete my nick [04:57] benTQ7: you can use sudo reboot if you need [04:58] benTQ7: i would try rebooting using the older kernel.. tapping shift [05:01] holstein: older kernel? [05:01] benTQ7: if you upgraded the kernel could be something that is breaking functionality [05:02] benTQ7: you reboot... tap shift.. you'll see "previous ubuntu kernels" or versions... previous something [05:02] benTQ7: second in the list.. then you choose an earlier kernel.. the one that workd.. boot in.. see if that is the issue [05:02] holstein: Do you know much about configuring kernels? :P [05:03] Unit193: its a good thing im not configuring a kernel and just booting an older one :) [05:03] Hah, alright. [05:04] Unit193: i was thinking it would be kernel upgrade broke it or force fsck on reboot [05:04] (This was actually an unrelated question) [05:05] lol.. Unit193, not enough about kernels to be helpful im afraid, whats up? [05:06] previous versions gives me 3.2.0-29-generic and same with recovery mode [05:06] holstein: Heh, just having a little bit of an issue with compiling one, and using another. [05:06] benTQ7: i would try the oldest one there [05:07] Unit193: i need to get into it.. i'd like to help with the ubuntustudio lowlatency one.. i still havent complied my own [05:11] holstein: tried that, just got a static splash screen, no progress [05:12] benTQ7: and tty? [05:12] benTQ7: tty is a nice troubleshooting step.. plus, you can reboot [05:23] holstein: booted previous kernel (3.2.0-29-generic) and same issue - no mouse. tty does nothing. ctrl,alt,F1 gives blank screen. power button brings up terminal log-in dialogue.... [05:24] benTQ7: i would consider reinstalling.. you can try fsck [05:24] !fsck [05:24] fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot [05:26] hi [05:27] I wolu know if somebody has solved the known bug [05:28] about the visualization of two icons for every one partition on desktop [05:28] I "would" [05:28] xubuntu380: i know that is being addressed.. iwould just add yourself to the bug [05:29] ok add me [05:31] it's a really mind-break this bug [05:31] xubuntu380: you make an account and add yourself to the bug, so you will be able to keep up [05:32] xubuntu380: i just disabled one set of them [05:32] ok [05:33] i'll do [05:33] It's in proposed. [06:05] holstein: thanks for your help. gotta sleep now - I'll try again tomorrow. I think you're right that a re-install is the way to go. [06:09] Hi I downloaded 12.04 alternate and used windows-based unetbootin to write it to a 1 Gig flash drive. [06:10] But installation to a 4 gig drive on asus eeepc 701 , divided as 3.5G for Btrfs / and 512MB for swap (there is 512MB RAM) is VERY slow and HD LED lights all the time [06:10] it is doing install straigth 10+ hours now [06:11] I did something wrong / not advised? Is using Btrfs not advised on small cheap SSD found inside eeepc? [06:12] is 3.5G of space too little for Xubuntu and should I download some other image but alternate .iso to burn on usb, etc? [09:36] installing alternate 12.04 on btrfs on eeepc 701 is very slow. I reinstall on ext4. [09:39] i have no idea how to pass -noatime before mounting to speed it up for btrfs. [09:39] but I think I can convet to btrfs post-install [09:39] or stay with ext4 if I forget snapshots [09:40] OH. If I set up Lan network prefernces and network is unavailable, I can not make install , it fails on package selection... [10:17] Hello guys ! did anyone figure out how to make google earth work on 12.10 ? [10:21] GrandCouillon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth [10:26] baizon, Ok but this doesn't point to version 7 of google earth [10:26] GrandCouillon: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/install-google-earth-7-in-ubuntu.html [10:27] baizon, yes but this doesn't work (look at the comments, I am not alone) [10:28] GrandCouillon: what doesnt work? [10:28] do you got an error msg? [10:29] baizon, if you start it the splash screen appears and google earth crashes [10:29] with what error msg? [10:29] baizon, version seems ok [10:31] GrandCouillon: with what error msg? [10:31] do you get the crash [10:31] yes it crashes [10:31] version 6 is ok [10:32] GrandCouillon: with what error msg? [10:32] but version 7 doesn't work [10:32] i need more input [10:33] Major Version 7 [10:33] Minor Version 0 [10:33] Build Number 0001 [10:33] Build Date Oct 29 2012 [10:33] Build Time 19:13:39 [10:33] OS Type 3 [10:33] OS Major Version 3 [10:33] OS Minor Version 5 [10:33] OS Build Version 0 [10:33] OS Patch Version 0 [10:33] Crash Signal 11 [10:33] Crash Time 1352455347 [10:33] Up Time 0,638647 [10:33] GrandCouillon: please use paste.ubuntu.com for that [10:33] Stacktrace from glibc: [10:33] ./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0x1e9cfb)[0xf75e3cfb] [10:33] ./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0x1e9f43)[0xf75e3f43] [10:33] [0xf778e400] [10:33] sorry [10:33] /ignore GrandCouillon [10:33] ff. [10:34] GrandCouillon: launch google earth from terminal and watch the output [10:34] when it crashes post it on paste.ubuntu.com [10:37] Just a minute, I reinstall it [10:37] ok [10:37] GrandCouillon: you can try to purge the config file [10:38] baizon, it nearly only says : Google Earth has caught signal 11. [10:39] and points to a crashlog like the one a "stupidly" pasted here [10:39] GrandCouillon: check /home//.googleearth/crashlogs/ [10:40] and thats what you have posted here? [10:41] yes [10:41] the problem seems to be present on all 12.10 flavors [10:41] well yes [10:42] so it has to be fixed from google :) [10:42] I hope so :) [10:43] thanks, have a nice day [11:35] i'm far from the sort of person who engages in trolling, but i get this urge to troll the windows channel every once in while. [11:36] Luckily i don't act on it though. [11:36] Is the're an IRC channel made for venting out on these issues? [11:37] ##vent ? [11:38] ?? thought that might be a ventrilo channel or something [11:38] i will try it out [11:39] :P [11:39] no its empty. [11:39] well, i was there. [11:39] lame joke. nevermind. [11:40] lol np [11:40] i guess the best thing to do is not watch a video with steve ballmer talking [11:42] i'm sure that will help. :) [11:42] How a guy like that ever became a billionaire is proof the're is something wrong with this world. [11:42] do you know that there is a #xubuntu-offtopic channel that is is excellent for this kind of chat? :) [11:42] thanks TheSheep [12:19] basileiros????? === anderson is now known as Guest61141 === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:14] been browsing the internets and can't find info on replacing xscreensaver in 12.10, anyone got any tips/links? [16:14] deebo: i just removed it and installed another [16:14] laptop installation so black screen + lock is fine, xscreensaver is just ugly as hell [16:15] holstein: i tried gnome-screensaver, but seems the packaging has changed some since 12.04 or 11.10, the instructions had references to binaries i didnt find [16:15] deebo: cool... i would just search 'screensaver' and start trying them.. [16:33] I've searched for this for a while but can't find an answer: how to you turn off auto arrange for desktop icons in Xubuntu 12.10? thanks [16:38] nelson2: read down through all of them.. #6 specificaly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1800660 [16:39] maybe http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6097 === unrar is now known as they- [16:48] dougpol1 [16:50] Just installed xubuntu and checking out Irc [16:50] welcome :) [18:03] I dont have a log of my previous chat, but thanks to the people that helped me with the desktop icon auto arrange in 12.10! It worked. [18:07] nelson2: anytime! [18:36] Hi, I just installed Xubuntu, and am having trouble connecting to the wifi in my house now [18:36] anyboldy able to help? Thanks === they- is now known as unrar [19:22] I have a toshiba satellite A215-S4767 laptop that I just put Xubuntu on. I seems to run just fine, except it will not restart. I can shut it down and then power it up and it comes on fine, but it will not automatically restart. I have updated to the latest BIOS with no change. [19:24] I also have Xubuntu installed on an HP Pavilion laptop with no problems. Any help with the restart issue would be appreciated. Thanks [19:39] What would happen with corrupted memory on a linux system? [19:40] if something went wrong in the connection between memory and cpu? [19:42] i [20:02] Justakill: Almost always you'll end up with a kernel panic and core dump [20:02] Justakill: If you're concerned you may have bad ram, should run memtest on it [20:04] genii-around: does that mean shut down, i did do a memtest i havnt' got anything out of it though did 9 passes didn't register anythin [20:05] genii-around: i actually have a lot of bluescreens on my windows install, just wondering if xubuntu could give me a more understandble explanation compared to windows [20:05] Justakill: If it went 9 passes fine, i'd say your ram is fine. [20:06] genii-around: yea was just wondering what would happen on xubuntu because i've had enough of windows, i use it only for games but at this point i'm willing to give up on gaming [20:09] Justakill: In *buntu the usual symptoms of bad ram when the machine is running will either be kernel panic ( the computer locks up and all three keyboard lights blink on and off ) or an application you are running will crash for no reason. [20:11] genii-around: is the're anyway an OS can specifically detect the problem? [20:12] Justakill: Not usually. If you have ECC ram then maybe, but otherwise not. That's what utilities like memtest are for. [20:16] genii-around: thanks for you're help, feel kinda helpless not sure where to look for the problem... [20:36] do I really need adode flash player to view videos in firefox or is there a non corporate, like open source alternative. [20:39] hmm, maybe lightspark? [20:39] cool thanks. will try. [20:40] bird_, http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/02/lightspark-open-source-alternative-to.html [20:40] that might help [20:42] anyone running xmonad with xfce? im having weird problems using mod4mask [20:57] cool thanks for that link. im installing it. [21:01] :) [22:41] Does the open source ati driver have better or worder hardware acceleration then the fglrx driver? I need to find a way to have vlc or so play a h264 mp4 file capturing x11 with ffmpeg and encoding it, but VLC is eating alot of resources. [22:42] Hibikin: i usually try them both.. it can depend on your hardware [22:43] Well, it's a Q6600 with a ati radeon x1300, unfortunally, when I install fglrx it falls back to a lower resolution and CCC says that there is no driver [22:44] Hibikin: i would expect to make a custom xorg.conf.. typically the proprietary ones that come fromt he vendors are "better" [22:45] Hm, that might be a idea. However, not sure where to start [22:46] !ati [22:46] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [22:47] Ah thanks, let's see how that goes [22:47] Hibikin: there are some changes in the "jockey" that usually tells you what is available.. but AFAIK installing them manually will work [22:48] Well I tried to install the fglrx driver manually, but it didn't had the latest distro so I couldn't do much with --buildpkg [22:53] Hibikin, my mobility worked better with fglrx [22:53] good evening [22:53] and then it got broken with 12.10 [22:54] Hm, downgrading might be a option as well [22:54] but in 12.04 it worked great [22:54] Well there are many possibilities to archieve what I want in the end [22:54] This is cool. The xubuntu installer is running right now. Still I'm able to get in here to say hi. [22:54] :-) [22:54] hi to you too :) [22:55] :-) [22:55] and welcome :) [22:55] Thank you. [22:55] I've got to get this server working perfectly before a live video event as it will handle the streaming to a remote host [22:56] as holstein, try them both and see :) [22:56] Yup, another way would be to use mpeg2/4 for the playback file