[00:30] <Cigam> hey all again. anyone else know of a way to fix my 24bit to be 32bit?
[01:46] <k_sze> When changing BIOS settings, what difference does the "Plug and Play O/S" option make for ubuntu? Can Xubuntu handle all the PnP hardware correctly (my biggest concern is my nVidia-based PCIx graphics card)?
[02:27] <Justakill> why oh why are most games on windows....
[02:28] <drc> $
[02:28] <Unit193> !steam
[02:28] <Justakill> things are changing at the moment which is awesome but why!!!
[02:28] <Justakill> yea
[02:30] <Justakill> Hows that getting along, anyone a tester for the beta?
[03:44] <benTQ7> Hello, is this thing on?
[03:47] <holstein> benTQ7: feel free to check the topic and ask a question of the volunteers here if you need
[03:48] <benTQ7> never used IRC before, but I'm looking for some help with a new xubuntu install
[03:55] <benTQ7> OK, I've just installed xubuntu on my laptop, dual booting with winXP. took a while but got there eventually. installed updates and all seen
[04:00] <benTQ7> oops, ...all seemed ok but now it's all locked up - mouse frozen and I don't know how to proceed, short of hitting the power button. btw I'm new to linux. Is there a ctrl,alt,del equivalent?
[04:02] <holstein> sure.. theres control alt delete... but remember in windows, when that doenst work, its similar in windows
[04:02] <holstein> benTQ7: you need to decide what you would like to do... i might reinstall if i were at your stage, and just not update
[04:02] <holstein> !tty
[04:03] <holstein> ^^ you can use that to seee if the system is locked up, or if its just the graphics
[04:04] <holstein> you can also tap the shift key, and look in the grub list and boot the last kernel that was working...
[04:06] <benTQ7> I can't get to the terminal or type anything
[04:12] <holstein> benTQ7: that will help you determine the issue
[04:13] <holstein> benTQ7: if you try tty and cant, that is data... the machine might be frozen
[04:16] <benTQ7> holstein: I somehow found a shutdown dialogue, and rebooted to recovery mode. Tried repair broken packages and I'm now back at recovery menu. any advice?
[04:24] <holstein> benTQ7: sure... after it "locks up" use tty as i mentioned above to determine if the machine is still running and its just the graphics that are locked up
[04:25] <holstein> benTQ7: OR, just reinstall, and dont upgrade anything
[04:40] <benTQ7> OK rebooted and logged in. mouse froze immediately. I don't understand what you mean by tty. nothing happens if i type it. should i type it in the terminal? how do I get there without a mouse?
[04:41] <holstein> !tty
[04:41] <holstein> benTQ7: you use the keys above
[04:41] <holstein> control and alt and F1..
[04:41] <holstein> if you get a command prompt, the machine is not locked up
[04:44] <benTQ7> holstein: ctrl,alt +F1 gives me a black screen
[04:47] <holstein> benTQ7: can you type in it? or no?
[04:48] <benTQ7> No
[04:48] <holstein> benTQ7: if you can type in the top, your machine is not locked up
[04:49] <holstein> benTQ7: you tried booting an earlier kernel?
[04:56] <benTQ7> holsten: Just pressed the power button and some text popped up... and yes I can type in it. seems it's a terminal. just logged in with it and have a prompt (never seen a terminal before - I said I was new!
[04:57] <holstein> benTQ7: you can type 'h' or 'hol' and hit the tab key. that will auto complete my nick
[04:57] <holstein> benTQ7: you can use sudo reboot if you need
[04:58] <holstein> benTQ7: i would try rebooting using the older kernel.. tapping shift
[05:01] <benTQ7> holstein: older kernel?
[05:01] <holstein> benTQ7: if you upgraded the kernel could be something that is breaking functionality
[05:02] <holstein> benTQ7: you reboot... tap shift.. you'll see "previous ubuntu kernels" or versions... previous something
[05:02] <holstein> benTQ7: second in the list.. then you choose an earlier kernel.. the one that workd.. boot in.. see if that is the issue
[05:02] <Unit193> holstein: Do you know much about configuring kernels? :P
[05:03] <holstein> Unit193: its a good thing im not configuring a kernel and just booting an older one :)
[05:03] <Unit193> Hah, alright.
[05:04] <holstein> Unit193:  i was thinking it would be kernel upgrade broke it or force fsck on reboot
[05:04] <Unit193> (This was actually an unrelated question)
[05:05] <holstein> lol.. Unit193, not enough about kernels to be helpful im afraid, whats up?
[05:06] <benTQ7> previous versions gives me 3.2.0-29-generic and same with recovery mode
[05:06] <Unit193> holstein: Heh, just having a little bit of an issue with compiling one, and using another.
[05:06] <holstein> benTQ7: i would try the oldest one there
[05:07] <holstein> Unit193: i need to get into it.. i'd like to help with the ubuntustudio lowlatency one.. i still havent complied my own
[05:11] <benTQ7> holstein: tried that, just got a static splash screen, no progress
[05:12] <holstein> benTQ7: and tty?
[05:12] <holstein> benTQ7: tty is a nice troubleshooting step.. plus, you can reboot
[05:23] <benTQ7> holstein: booted previous kernel (3.2.0-29-generic) and same issue - no mouse. tty does nothing. ctrl,alt,F1 gives blank screen. power button brings up terminal log-in dialogue....
[05:24] <holstein> benTQ7: i would consider reinstalling.. you can try fsck
[05:24] <holstein> !fsck
[05:26] <xubuntu380> hi
[05:27] <xubuntu380> I wolu know if somebody has solved the known bug
[05:28] <xubuntu380> about the visualization of two icons for every one partition on desktop
[05:28] <xubuntu380> I "would"
[05:28] <holstein> xubuntu380: i know that is being addressed.. iwould just add yourself to the bug
[05:29] <xubuntu380> ok add me
[05:31] <xubuntu380> it's a really mind-break this bug
[05:31] <holstein> xubuntu380: you make an account and add yourself to the bug, so you will be able to keep up
[05:32] <holstein> xubuntu380: i just disabled one set of them
[05:32] <xubuntu380> ok
[05:33] <xubuntu380> i'll do
[05:33] <Unit193> It's in proposed.
[06:05] <benTQ7> holstein: thanks for your help. gotta sleep now - I'll try again tomorrow. I think you're right that a re-install is the way to go.
[06:09] <nikolam> Hi I downloaded 12.04 alternate and used windows-based unetbootin to write it to a 1 Gig flash drive.
[06:10] <nikolam> But installation to a 4 gig drive on asus eeepc 701 , divided as 3.5G for Btrfs / and 512MB for swap (there is 512MB RAM) is VERY slow and HD LED lights all the time
[06:10] <nikolam> it is doing install straigth 10+ hours now
[06:11] <nikolam> I did something wrong / not advised? Is using Btrfs not advised on small cheap SSD found inside eeepc?
[06:12] <nikolam> is 3.5G of space too little for Xubuntu and should I download some other image but alternate .iso to burn on usb, etc?
[09:36] <nikolam> installing alternate 12.04 on btrfs on eeepc 701 is very slow. I reinstall on ext4.
[09:39] <nikolam> i have no idea how to pass -noatime before mounting to speed it up for btrfs.
[09:39] <nikolam> but I think I can convet to btrfs post-install
[09:39] <nikolam> or stay with ext4 if I forget snapshots
[09:40] <nikolam> OH. If I set up Lan network prefernces and network is unavailable, I can not make install , it fails on package selection...
[10:17] <GrandCouillon> Hello guys ! did anyone figure out how to make google earth work on 12.10 ?
[10:21] <baizon> GrandCouillon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[10:26] <GrandCouillon> baizon, Ok but this doesn't point to version 7 of google earth
[10:26] <baizon> GrandCouillon: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/install-google-earth-7-in-ubuntu.html
[10:27] <GrandCouillon> baizon, yes but this doesn't work (look at the comments, I am not alone)
[10:28] <baizon> GrandCouillon: what doesnt work?
[10:28] <baizon> do you got an error msg?
[10:29] <GrandCouillon> baizon, if you start it the splash screen appears and google earth crashes
[10:29] <baizon> with what error msg?
[10:29] <GrandCouillon> baizon, version seems ok
[10:31] <baizon> GrandCouillon:  with what error msg?
[10:31] <baizon> do you get the crash
[10:31] <GrandCouillon> yes it crashes
[10:31] <GrandCouillon> version 6 is ok
[10:32] <baizon> GrandCouillon:  with what error msg?
[10:32] <GrandCouillon> but version 7 doesn't work
[10:32] <baizon> i need more input
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Major Version 7
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Minor Version 0
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Build Number 0001
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Build Date Oct 29 2012
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Build Time 19:13:39
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> OS Type 3
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> OS Major Version 3
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> OS Minor Version 5
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> OS Build Version 0
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> OS Patch Version 0
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Crash Signal 11
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Crash Time 1352455347
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Up Time 0,638647
[10:33] <baizon> GrandCouillon: please use paste.ubuntu.com for that
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> Stacktrace from glibc:
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> ./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0x1e9cfb)[0xf75e3cfb]
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> ./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0x1e9f43)[0xf75e3f43]
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> [0xf778e400]
[10:33] <GrandCouillon> sorry
[10:33] <Yotson>  /ignore GrandCouillon
[10:33] <Yotson> ff.
[10:34] <baizon> GrandCouillon: launch google earth from terminal and watch the output
[10:34] <baizon> when it crashes post it on paste.ubuntu.com
[10:37] <GrandCouillon> Just a minute, I reinstall it
[10:37] <baizon> ok
[10:37] <baizon> GrandCouillon: you can try to purge the config file
[10:38] <GrandCouillon> baizon, it nearly only says : Google Earth has caught signal 11.
[10:39] <GrandCouillon> and points to a crashlog like the one a "stupidly" pasted here
[10:39] <baizon> GrandCouillon: check   /home/<username>/.googleearth/crashlogs/
[10:40] <baizon> and thats what you have posted here?
[10:41] <GrandCouillon> yes
[10:41] <GrandCouillon> the problem seems to be present on all 12.10 flavors
[10:41] <baizon> well yes
[10:42] <baizon> so it has to be fixed from google :)
[10:42] <GrandCouillon> I hope so :)
[10:43] <GrandCouillon> thanks, have a nice day
[11:35] <Justakill> i'm far from the sort of person who engages in trolling, but i get this urge to troll the windows channel every once in while.
[11:36] <Justakill> Luckily i don't act on it though.
[11:36] <Justakill> Is the're an IRC channel made for venting out on these issues?
[11:37] <Yotson> ##vent ?
[11:38] <Justakill> ?? thought that might be a ventrilo channel or something
[11:38] <Justakill> i will try it out
[11:39] <Yotson> :P
[11:39] <Justakill> no its empty.
[11:39] <Yotson> well, i was there.
[11:39] <Yotson> lame joke. nevermind.
[11:40] <Justakill> lol np
[11:40] <Justakill> i guess the best thing to do is not watch a video with steve ballmer talking
[11:42] <Yotson> i'm sure that will help. :)
[11:42] <Justakill> How a guy like that ever became a billionaire is proof the're is something wrong with this world.
[11:42] <TheSheep> do you know that there is a #xubuntu-offtopic channel that is is excellent for this kind of chat? :)
[11:42] <Justakill> thanks TheSheep
[12:19] <emanoeljulio> basileiros?????
[16:14] <deebo> been browsing the internets and can't find info on replacing xscreensaver in 12.10, anyone got any tips/links?
[16:14] <holstein> deebo: i just removed it and installed another
[16:14] <deebo> laptop installation so black screen + lock is fine, xscreensaver is just ugly as hell
[16:15] <deebo> holstein: i tried gnome-screensaver, but seems the packaging has changed some since 12.04 or 11.10, the instructions had references to binaries i didnt find
[16:15] <holstein> deebo: cool... i would just search 'screensaver' and start trying them..
[16:33] <nelson2> I've searched for this for a while but can't find an answer: how to you turn off auto arrange for desktop icons in Xubuntu 12.10? thanks
[16:38] <holstein> nelson2: read down through all of them.. #6 specificaly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1800660
[16:39] <holstein> maybe http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6097
[16:48] <xubuntu075> dougpol1
[16:50] <xubuntu075> Just installed xubuntu and checking out Irc
[16:50] <baizon> welcome :)
[18:03] <nelson2> I dont have a log of my previous chat, but thanks to the people that helped me with the desktop icon auto arrange in 12.10! It worked.
[18:07] <holstein> nelson2: anytime!
[18:36] <xubuntu980> Hi, I just installed Xubuntu, and am having trouble connecting to the wifi in my house now
[18:36] <xubuntu980> anyboldy able to help? Thanks
[19:22] <xubuntu732> I have a toshiba satellite A215-S4767 laptop that I just put Xubuntu on. I seems to run just fine, except it will not restart. I can shut it down and then power it up and it comes on fine, but it will not automatically restart. I have updated to the latest BIOS with no change.
[19:24] <xubuntu732> I also have Xubuntu installed on an HP Pavilion laptop with no problems. Any help with the restart issue would be appreciated. Thanks
[19:39] <Justakill> What would happen with corrupted memory on a linux system?
[19:40] <Justakill> if something went wrong in the connection between memory and cpu?
[19:42] <Justakill> i
[20:02] <genii-around> Justakill: Almost always you'll end up with a kernel panic and core dump
[20:02] <genii-around> Justakill: If you're concerned you may have bad ram, should run memtest on it
[20:04] <Justakill> genii-around: does that mean shut down, i did do a memtest i havnt' got anything out of it though did 9 passes didn't register anythin
[20:05] <Justakill> genii-around: i actually have a lot of bluescreens on my windows install, just wondering if xubuntu could give me a more understandble explanation compared to windows
[20:05] <genii-around> Justakill: If it went 9 passes fine, i'd say your ram is fine.
[20:06] <Justakill> genii-around: yea was just wondering what would happen on xubuntu because i've had enough of windows, i use it only for games but at this point i'm willing to give up on gaming
[20:09] <genii-around> Justakill: In *buntu the usual symptoms of bad ram when the machine is running will either be kernel panic ( the computer locks up and all three keyboard lights blink on and off ) or an application you are running will crash for no reason.
[20:11] <Justakill> genii-around: is the're anyway an OS can specifically detect the problem?
[20:12] <genii-around> Justakill: Not usually. If you have ECC ram then maybe, but otherwise not. That's what utilities like memtest are for.
[20:16] <Justakill> genii-around: thanks for you're help, feel kinda helpless not sure where to look for the problem...
[20:36] <bird_> do I really need adode flash player to view videos in firefox or is there a non corporate, like open source alternative.
[20:39] <adnanh> hmm, maybe lightspark?
[20:39] <bird_> cool thanks. will try.
[20:40] <adnanh> bird_, http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/02/lightspark-open-source-alternative-to.html
[20:40] <adnanh> that might help
[20:42] <deebo> anyone running xmonad with xfce? im having weird problems using mod4mask
[20:57] <bird_> cool thanks for that link. im installing it.
[21:01] <adnanh> :)
[22:41] <Hibikin> Does the open source ati driver have better or worder hardware acceleration then the fglrx driver? I need to find a way to have vlc or so play a h264 mp4 file capturing x11 with ffmpeg and encoding it, but VLC is eating alot of resources.
[22:42] <holstein> Hibikin: i usually try them both.. it can depend on your hardware
[22:43] <Hibikin> Well, it's a Q6600 with a ati radeon x1300, unfortunally, when I install fglrx it falls back to a lower resolution and CCC says that there is no driver
[22:44] <holstein> Hibikin: i would expect to make a custom xorg.conf.. typically the proprietary ones that come fromt he vendors are "better"
[22:45] <Hibikin> Hm, that might be a idea. However, not sure where to start
[22:46] <holstein> !ati
[22:47] <Hibikin> Ah thanks, let's see how that goes
[22:47] <holstein> Hibikin: there are some changes in the "jockey" that usually tells you what is available.. but AFAIK installing them manually will work
[22:48] <Hibikin> Well I tried to install the fglrx driver manually, but it didn't had the latest distro so I couldn't do much with --buildpkg
[22:53] <adnanh> Hibikin, my mobility worked better with fglrx
[22:53] <xubuntu486> good evening
[22:53] <adnanh> and then it got broken with 12.10
[22:54] <Hibikin> Hm, downgrading might be a option as well
[22:54] <adnanh> but in 12.04 it worked great
[22:54] <Hibikin> Well there are many possibilities to archieve what I want in the end
[22:54] <xubuntu486> This is cool. The xubuntu installer is running right now. Still I'm able to get in here to say hi.
[22:54] <adnanh> :-)
[22:54] <adnanh> hi to you too :)
[22:55] <xubuntu486> :-)
[22:55] <adnanh> and welcome :)
[22:55] <xubuntu486> Thank you.
[22:55] <Hibikin> I've got to get this server working perfectly before a live video event as it will handle the streaming to a remote host
[22:56] <adnanh> as  holstein, try them both and see :)
[22:56] <Hibikin> Yup, another way would be to use mpeg2/4 for the playback file