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=== jackson_ is now known as Noskcaj
head_victimjea: meeting tomorrow night?13:56
jeayes, it is supposed to be tomorrow13:56
jeanot sure how many will turn up - i didn't get around to emailing due to uni exams13:57
head_victimI started a new teaching period last week and forgot all about it13:59
jeayeah. I will try to send stuff out in the morning quickly14:01
head_victimI should be at the keyboard tomorrow night either way14:02
head_victimI have to get a start on the assessment pieces.14:02
jeaOk. I think I should be around also14:03
ikt:o14:10
head_victimEvening ikt 14:11
iktheya :)14:11
iktmeeting tomorrow night14:24
head_victimYep, hoping we don't dwindle further14:31
iktHow do we compare to other teams?14:48
iktis there a way to measure14:48
head_victimikt: not really, most teams cycle through activity/inactivity from what I can work out.14:49
iktI would like to compare ourselves to other countries like America and the UK14:49
iktbut we have such a sparse population14:49
head_victimUnfortunately it appears we're not achieving a whole lot lately.14:49
iktit's true14:50
iktbut it's incredibly difficult to turn it around14:50
iktlooking at America's Logo's there's only 10 that are 'approved' by Ubuntu14:50
iktand 2 are ubuntu canada and ubuntu quebec14:51
iktso in a country with 300 million people they have 8 teams14:51
sagaciso in australia we should have around 0.8 of a team14:52
iktlol14:52
ikti can't put my finger on what it is14:52
iktbut the ubuntu forums has the same problem14:52
head_victimI'd be happy to see one or two real world events a cycle + release parties and then we'd be achieving things.14:52
iktit's not necessarily dying, it's just not a community that I remember it14:52
iktthe ubuntu begineers team had a massive thing going for it14:53
iktand then people started resigning14:53
iktand now it's dead :/14:53
head_victimBasically teams pop up when people have time for them and go when the handful of active people go.14:53
head_victimThe hard part is getting a group of people to be active for longer periods of time and to grow the number.14:54
iktit's interesting though, at work I know 3-4 guys who use ubuntu14:54
iktand steam coming to ubuntu sparked a bit of discussion14:55
ikteven a few windows users were asking about it14:55
iktbut i just don't see any of them committing to a team and actively promoting it :(14:55
iktwtb australian jono bacon 14:56
iktoh15:02
iktbtw head_victim, did you see my argument with paul gear on whirlpool?15:02
iktor is it sagaci on wp15:03
head_victimikt: nope sorry, link?15:05
head_victimikt: that's really the crux of the loco issue. Ubuntu is making penetration into the marketplace but it's now something that people see as a tool rather than THEIR tool. It's grown to be something someone else does and others just USE it.15:06
iktyeah exactly15:10
iktand no link, all 40 posts got deleted15:10
iktwas over the ubuntu 12.10 amazon search results issue15:10
head_victimAh, personally opt in works better for me but then again, it's not my decision to take.15:12
iktI wish they'd made it a separate tab15:13
ikthttp://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2012/11/09/product-search-in-ubuntu-12-10/15:13
iktis from the former Technical Lead of Ubuntu Security Team15:13
iktpaul was quite upset15:13
iktsaying that the amazon search is a keylogger15:14
iktand adware15:14
iktand spyware etc15:14
iktI was saying it isn't that bad15:14
iktit's no worse than a google search15:14
iktbut he just kept going on about it15:14
sagaciI don't use the dash15:17
head_victimYeah I saw either that article or another one summarising it the other day15:17
head_victimI really only use the dash for file searching when I don't use the file often15:17
iktyeah same15:19
head_victimAh well, I hate to leave the most conversation in here in a long time but I need to get back to my strategy assignment. Apparently Porter's 5 forces model is worth reading.15:24
iktthat's cool, have fun :)15:24
=== jackson_ is now known as Noskcaj
sagacimeeting on tonight22:21
Noskcajsagaci: what time?22:45
sagaci9pm nsw/vic time22:46
Noskcajok23:00

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