=== jackson_ is now known as Noskcaj [13:56] jea: meeting tomorrow night? [13:56] yes, it is supposed to be tomorrow [13:57] not sure how many will turn up - i didn't get around to emailing due to uni exams [13:59] I started a new teaching period last week and forgot all about it [14:01] yeah. I will try to send stuff out in the morning quickly [14:02] I should be at the keyboard tomorrow night either way [14:02] I have to get a start on the assessment pieces. [14:03] Ok. I think I should be around also [14:10] :o [14:11] Evening ikt [14:11] heya :) [14:24] meeting tomorrow night [14:31] Yep, hoping we don't dwindle further [14:48] How do we compare to other teams? [14:48] is there a way to measure [14:49] ikt: not really, most teams cycle through activity/inactivity from what I can work out. [14:49] I would like to compare ourselves to other countries like America and the UK [14:49] but we have such a sparse population [14:49] Unfortunately it appears we're not achieving a whole lot lately. [14:50] it's true [14:50] but it's incredibly difficult to turn it around [14:50] looking at America's Logo's there's only 10 that are 'approved' by Ubuntu [14:51] and 2 are ubuntu canada and ubuntu quebec [14:51] so in a country with 300 million people they have 8 teams [14:52] so in australia we should have around 0.8 of a team [14:52] lol [14:52] i can't put my finger on what it is [14:52] but the ubuntu forums has the same problem [14:52] I'd be happy to see one or two real world events a cycle + release parties and then we'd be achieving things. [14:52] it's not necessarily dying, it's just not a community that I remember it [14:53] the ubuntu begineers team had a massive thing going for it [14:53] and then people started resigning [14:53] and now it's dead :/ [14:53] Basically teams pop up when people have time for them and go when the handful of active people go. [14:54] The hard part is getting a group of people to be active for longer periods of time and to grow the number. [14:54] it's interesting though, at work I know 3-4 guys who use ubuntu [14:55] and steam coming to ubuntu sparked a bit of discussion [14:55] even a few windows users were asking about it [14:55] but i just don't see any of them committing to a team and actively promoting it :( [14:56] wtb australian jono bacon [15:02] oh [15:02] btw head_victim, did you see my argument with paul gear on whirlpool? [15:03] or is it sagaci on wp [15:05] ikt: nope sorry, link? [15:06] ikt: that's really the crux of the loco issue. Ubuntu is making penetration into the marketplace but it's now something that people see as a tool rather than THEIR tool. It's grown to be something someone else does and others just USE it. [15:10] yeah exactly [15:10] and no link, all 40 posts got deleted [15:10] was over the ubuntu 12.10 amazon search results issue [15:12] Ah, personally opt in works better for me but then again, it's not my decision to take. [15:13] I wish they'd made it a separate tab [15:13] http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2012/11/09/product-search-in-ubuntu-12-10/ [15:13] is from the former Technical Lead of Ubuntu Security Team [15:13] paul was quite upset [15:14] saying that the amazon search is a keylogger [15:14] and adware [15:14] and spyware etc [15:14] I was saying it isn't that bad [15:14] it's no worse than a google search [15:14] but he just kept going on about it [15:17] I don't use the dash [15:17] Yeah I saw either that article or another one summarising it the other day [15:17] I really only use the dash for file searching when I don't use the file often [15:19] yeah same [15:24] Ah well, I hate to leave the most conversation in here in a long time but I need to get back to my strategy assignment. Apparently Porter's 5 forces model is worth reading. [15:24] that's cool, have fun :) === jackson_ is now known as Noskcaj [22:21] meeting on tonight [22:45] sagaci: what time? [22:46] 9pm nsw/vic time [23:00] ok