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darkxstjbicha, when I dist-upgraded to R, my gtk theme got set back to Ambiance somehow ;(02:23
jbichaI can't think of anything we touched that would have done that02:26
nogjust a quick question guys... will will gdm 3.6.2 be available for 12.10?02:27
darkxstI know its completely strange..02:27
nogwhen*02:27
darkxstnog, sometime after its released!02:27
jbichawe don't have the Ubuntu One installer by default in Ubuntu GNOME 12.1002:27
noguhm.. i think it was a couple days ago02:28
darkxstjbicha, oh right, got confused there then02:28
jbichanope, 3.6.1 is the latest http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/tree/NEWS?h=gnome-3-602:28
nogahh, so its really close then.. maybe its just finalized for release02:29
darkxstnog why do you want gdm 3.6.2?02:29
nogthe ability to actually disable the user list02:29
nogits a requirement for my company02:30
darkxstnog, oh that is in gnome-shell 3.6.202:30
nogyea02:30
darkxstonce it gets released02:30
darkxstnog, not gdm02:30
nogahh02:30
darkxstgnome-shell does the greeter02:30
* nog isnt too familiary with the workings of gnome-shell02:30
nogahh cool02:31
* nog obviously cannot type tonight02:31
jbichanog: that's part of gnome-shell 3.7, not 3.602:34
jbichahttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66066002:34
ubot5Gnome bug 660660 in login-screen "Gdm 3.2 ignores /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]02:34
darkxstjbicha, I believe they are hoping to include it in 3.6.202:36
nogyea..02:37
darkxstjbicha, I vaguely remember someone on here having dependency issues with U1 perhaps thats what this guy is complaining about02:37
nogi was about to say i guess i cannot read because it sure looks like 3.6.2 is it02:37
darkxstnog, it hasnt been committed into 3.6 yet02:37
darkxsthowever I presume fmeuller is yet to cherypick patches for the next release02:38
noghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/1072838 <-- i submitted that02:38
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1072838 in gdm (Ubuntu) "GDM 3 disable-user-list=true does not work with gnome-shell greeter" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:38
nogi guess where i was coming from is that the status is fix-released02:38
jbichaok, someone should follow up with the GNOME devs to make sure it gets in since I expect the next gnome-shell release Monday or Tuesday02:39
jbichanog: and then we'll package it for 12.10 where it will need to wait at least seven days in -proposed before getting promoted to quantal-updates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates02:41
nogjbicha: cool.. was just wondering about it02:42
nogthe only reason i am up in arms about the whole thing is i work for a government contractor and its very much a security issue.. and since my dev environment is ubuntu its nice to have it.. yes, we had worked out the gnome-fallback but you know.. i love eye candy02:43
noghaha02:43
jbichaah, but gnome-fallback will be dropped before the next lts; if you need that desktop it would be safer if you used 12.04 LTS02:47
jbichawow, we have a lot of ubuntu-help links; I'm fixing that for 13.0402:52
darkxstubuntu-help?02:52
jbichahelp links that pull up the Ubuntu help instead of the GNOME help02:53
nogas long as that disable user list functionality for gnome-shell sticks around, i wont need gnome-fallback02:54
jbichanog: oh good, gnome-shell just keeps getting better :)02:55
nogi love gnome-shell... best UI i have used...02:58
nogi like eye candy WITH functionality02:58
nogextensions ftw02:59
nogi use the shell-shape extension03:00
jbichanog: you're a sysadmin?03:01
darkxstnog, thats quite a bit more than just a gnome-shell extension03:01
nogjbicha: i am a developer that does some sys-admin work..03:03
nogdarkxst: yea, it is.. but its loaded as an extension03:03
darkxstnog, well as in it actually patches mutter etc as well03:05
nogi havent dug into the inner workings of it.. i should though.. get it to work correctly with dual monitors03:06
jbichanog: Jasper said at the Boston Summit that he was looking into adding an rpm download feature to extensions.gnome.org and adding .deb shouldn't be much harder03:06
nogthat would be cool03:07
nogive had good luck with just flipping the switch on extensions.gnome.org though03:07
darkxsthopefully auto-updates will land for 3.8 as well03:07
nogthat would be cool03:09
darkxstjbicha, so the idea with the new build system is to leave R-proposed disabled right?03:22
darkxstand just wait until packages filter through to main03:22
jbichadarkxst: that's what I do and recommend03:27
darkxstI still don't know why they don't remove the "partial upgrade" button for dev releases (although I suspose it won't be a problem so much now)03:29
darkxstjbicha, I think I mentioned this yesterday, but I am going to look at patching g-s-d to enable the packagekit backend at run-time, if update-manager is not installed03:40
darkxstcurrently its disabled at build-time03:40
darkxsthowever I pretty sure that not likely going to be an upstreamable patch03:41
darkxstdoes this sound like a reasonable way to tackle the issue?03:44
darkxstI have been running with g-s-d with pk backend for a few weeks and it works well03:44
darkxstbut obviously if update notifier/manager are installed you get double update notifications03:45
jbichacould update-notifier just use the g-s-d p-k integration?03:54
jbichaI don't work with any of that code03:55
darkxstI have not really looked at update-notifier code closely04:03
darkxstbut it just has a bunch of hardcoded shell commands that call various python scripts04:04
darkxstare ubuntu interested in better p-k integration though?04:09
jbichaI'm guessing the policykit stuff has more maintainers than whatever Ubuntu has been using04:11
darkxst^packagekit04:12
jbichayeah ;)04:12
darkxstwell I suppose most of the ubuntu package mangement apps are a custom stack of python scripts04:13
darkxstwith the exception of update-notifier with a custom c program04:14
GSMgsmhola04:43
GSMgsmalguien sabe el comando para desistalar tor  totalmente junto con vitalia, muchas gracias04:44
darkxstGSMgsm, can you ask in english, pls05:02
GSMgsmno05:10
darkxstGSMgsm, well sorry then I dont understand spanish or whatever your language is05:10
GSMgsmnose hablar ingles, perdona05:11
darkxstes posible que desee para tratar de somwhere más, entonces yo no creo que nadie aquí habla español (excepto google!)05:13
GSMgsmthanks05:14
GSMgsmokey05:14
GSMgsmbye05:14
GSMgsmsoy novato , perdona05:14

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