[02:23] <darkxst> jbicha, when I dist-upgraded to R, my gtk theme got set back to Ambiance somehow ;(
[02:26] <jbicha> I can't think of anything we touched that would have done that
[02:27] <nog> just a quick question guys... will will gdm 3.6.2 be available for 12.10?
[02:27] <darkxst> I know its completely strange..
[02:27] <nog> when*
[02:27] <darkxst> nog, sometime after its released!
[02:27] <jbicha> we don't have the Ubuntu One installer by default in Ubuntu GNOME 12.10
[02:28] <nog> uhm.. i think it was a couple days ago
[02:28] <darkxst> jbicha, oh right, got confused there then
[02:28] <jbicha> nope, 3.6.1 is the latest http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/tree/NEWS?h=gnome-3-6
[02:29] <nog> ahh, so its really close then.. maybe its just finalized for release
[02:29] <darkxst> nog why do you want gdm 3.6.2?
[02:29] <nog> the ability to actually disable the user list
[02:30] <nog> its a requirement for my company
[02:30] <darkxst> nog, oh that is in gnome-shell 3.6.2
[02:30] <nog> yea
[02:30] <darkxst> once it gets released
[02:30] <darkxst> nog, not gdm
[02:30] <nog> ahh
[02:30] <darkxst> gnome-shell does the greeter
[02:30]  * nog isnt too familiary with the workings of gnome-shell
[02:31] <nog> ahh cool
[02:31]  * nog obviously cannot type tonight
[02:34] <jbicha> nog: that's part of gnome-shell 3.7, not 3.6
[02:34] <jbicha> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660660
[02:36] <darkxst> jbicha, I believe they are hoping to include it in 3.6.2
[02:37] <nog> yea..
[02:37] <darkxst> jbicha, I vaguely remember someone on here having dependency issues with U1 perhaps thats what this guy is complaining about
[02:37] <nog> i was about to say i guess i cannot read because it sure looks like 3.6.2 is it
[02:37] <darkxst> nog, it hasnt been committed into 3.6 yet
[02:38] <darkxst> however I presume fmeuller is yet to cherypick patches for the next release
[02:38] <nog> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/1072838 <-- i submitted that
[02:38] <nog> i guess where i was coming from is that the status is fix-released
[02:39] <jbicha> ok, someone should follow up with the GNOME devs to make sure it gets in since I expect the next gnome-shell release Monday or Tuesday
[02:41] <jbicha> nog: and then we'll package it for 12.10 where it will need to wait at least seven days in -proposed before getting promoted to quantal-updates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[02:42] <nog> jbicha: cool.. was just wondering about it
[02:43] <nog> the only reason i am up in arms about the whole thing is i work for a government contractor and its very much a security issue.. and since my dev environment is ubuntu its nice to have it.. yes, we had worked out the gnome-fallback but you know.. i love eye candy
[02:43] <nog> haha
[02:47] <jbicha> ah, but gnome-fallback will be dropped before the next lts; if you need that desktop it would be safer if you used 12.04 LTS
[02:52] <jbicha> wow, we have a lot of ubuntu-help links; I'm fixing that for 13.04
[02:52] <darkxst> ubuntu-help?
[02:53] <jbicha> help links that pull up the Ubuntu help instead of the GNOME help
[02:54] <nog> as long as that disable user list functionality for gnome-shell sticks around, i wont need gnome-fallback
[02:55] <jbicha> nog: oh good, gnome-shell just keeps getting better :)
[02:58] <nog> i love gnome-shell... best UI i have used...
[02:58] <nog> i like eye candy WITH functionality
[02:59] <nog> extensions ftw
[03:00] <nog> i use the shell-shape extension
[03:01] <jbicha> nog: you're a sysadmin?
[03:01] <darkxst> nog, thats quite a bit more than just a gnome-shell extension
[03:03] <nog> jbicha: i am a developer that does some sys-admin work..
[03:03] <nog> darkxst: yea, it is.. but its loaded as an extension
[03:05] <darkxst> nog, well as in it actually patches mutter etc as well
[03:06] <nog> i havent dug into the inner workings of it.. i should though.. get it to work correctly with dual monitors
[03:06] <jbicha> nog: Jasper said at the Boston Summit that he was looking into adding an rpm download feature to extensions.gnome.org and adding .deb shouldn't be much harder
[03:07] <nog> that would be cool
[03:07] <nog> ive had good luck with just flipping the switch on extensions.gnome.org though
[03:07] <darkxst> hopefully auto-updates will land for 3.8 as well
[03:09] <nog> that would be cool
[03:22] <darkxst> jbicha, so the idea with the new build system is to leave R-proposed disabled right?
[03:22] <darkxst> and just wait until packages filter through to main
[03:27] <jbicha> darkxst: that's what I do and recommend
[03:29] <darkxst> I still don't know why they don't remove the "partial upgrade" button for dev releases (although I suspose it won't be a problem so much now)
[03:40] <darkxst> jbicha, I think I mentioned this yesterday, but I am going to look at patching g-s-d to enable the packagekit backend at run-time, if update-manager is not installed
[03:40] <darkxst> currently its disabled at build-time
[03:41] <darkxst> however I pretty sure that not likely going to be an upstreamable patch
[03:44] <darkxst> does this sound like a reasonable way to tackle the issue?
[03:44] <darkxst> I have been running with g-s-d with pk backend for a few weeks and it works well
[03:45] <darkxst> but obviously if update notifier/manager are installed you get double update notifications
[03:54] <jbicha> could update-notifier just use the g-s-d p-k integration?
[03:55] <jbicha> I don't work with any of that code
[04:03] <darkxst> I have not really looked at update-notifier code closely
[04:04] <darkxst> but it just has a bunch of hardcoded shell commands that call various python scripts
[04:09] <darkxst> are ubuntu interested in better p-k integration though?
[04:11] <jbicha> I'm guessing the policykit stuff has more maintainers than whatever Ubuntu has been using
[04:12] <darkxst> ^packagekit
[04:12] <jbicha> yeah ;)
[04:13] <darkxst> well I suppose most of the ubuntu package mangement apps are a custom stack of python scripts
[04:14] <darkxst> with the exception of update-notifier with a custom c program
[04:43] <GSMgsm> hola
[04:44] <GSMgsm> alguien sabe el comando para desistalar tor  totalmente junto con vitalia, muchas gracias
[05:02] <darkxst> GSMgsm, can you ask in english, pls
[05:10] <GSMgsm> no
[05:10] <darkxst> GSMgsm, well sorry then I dont understand spanish or whatever your language is
[05:11] <GSMgsm> nose hablar ingles, perdona
[05:13] <darkxst> es posible que desee para tratar de somwhere más, entonces yo no creo que nadie aquí habla español (excepto google!)
[05:14] <GSMgsm> thanks
[05:14] <GSMgsm> okey
[05:14] <GSMgsm> bye
[05:14] <GSMgsm> soy novato , perdona