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TheLordOfTimeis there any way to force-ignore this error?  since the package is heading to a PPA.  dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address  (and i'm not supposed to change the Maintainer: field)12:12
tumbleweedTheLordOfTime: I think persia is giving you pretty good advice in #ubuntu-packaging12:12
TheLordOfTimetumbleweed:  which is going against what's already in palce on my system12:13
TheLordOfTimetumbleweed:  i've had DEBEMAIL set for my @ubuntu.com email for the past 6 months.  otherwise, the system can't ID what signing key to use.12:13
tumbleweedTheLordOfTime: there are only two solutions, and he's suggested both of them12:13
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Laneymfisch: merci16:34
cjwatsonTheLordOfTime: I set DEBSIGN_KEYID to an explicit key ID in ~/.devscripts, rather than having debsign work it out from my e-mail address.  You could do that.18:02
obounaimHello18:02
TheLordOfTimetrue, i'll have to set that next time i stab my .devscripts18:02
TheLordOfTimei'll do that later this evening, after i replace a few componetns in my system.18:03
obounaimWhy http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/raring/ does not show http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%2361967718:03
jtaylorprobably because its tagged kfreebsd18:05
obounaimjtaylor, thanks.18:48
obounaimTo upload a source package to a ppa, does it have to be signed, I want to test if a debian source package builds correctly on amd64?18:49
TheLordOfTimeobounaim, you still need to sign the package with a GPG key that is on launchpad.18:50
TheLordOfTimefor it to work with PPAs.18:50
TheLordOfTime(even if the architecture is amd64 only)18:50
obounaimHow can I do that without modifying  the changelog18:52
TheLordOfTimeout of curiosity, what "package" are you test-building?18:53
obounaimgfarm2fs18:54
TheLordOfTimethis for a bugfix or something?18:54
obounaimI want to see if syncing the new version from Debian will fix an existing bug in Ubuntu #83731718:56
ubottuUbuntu bug 837317 in gfarm2fs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "gfarm2fs ftbfs in oneiric on all archs except i386" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83731718:56
obounaimI have an i386 Ubuntu on my machine so I want to use a ppa to see if it builds correctly on amd6418:56
* TheLordOfTime checks something18:57
TheLordOfTimehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/gfarm2fs/+builds18:58
TheLordOfTimelooks like somewhere along the line it built for all archs18:58
TheLordOfTimeany specific Ubuntu verison you're looking at?18:58
TheLordOfTime(also, that bug you posted, its "Fix Released" for Oneiric)18:59
TheLordOfTimes/posted/referenced/18:59
obounaimI agree the current version in Ubuntu builds on all version, What I am trying to do is to see if the new version of the package in Debian fixes the  #837317 bug19:01
obounaimin order to drop Ubuntu changes and sync the new version of Debian, or if the build fails do a merge19:02
TheLordOfTimeah.19:02
TheLordOfTimewell i've done test-ports myself of $various_debian_packages, and modified thechangelogs for one of my testing PPAs.19:03
TheLordOfTimeworking on php5.4.x ports from Debian to Precise right now for a PPA of mine, same concept.19:04
TheLordOfTimejust create a changelog entry saying no-changes build-test from Debian or something.19:04
TheLordOfTimeunless the MOTUs say that's bad19:04
TheLordOfTimeor someone who's higher up the food chain than me :P19:04
obounaimSo there is now way to sign a source package without changing the changelog19:04
TheLordOfTimethat's not what i said?19:04
obounaimsorry19:04
TheLordOfTimeactually i misinterpreted you19:05
TheLordOfTimeyou might be able to reupload the debian source package, but... the PPAs might not accept it19:05
TheLordOfTimeif i remember right the PPA builders check the signature...19:06
obounaimI tried "dput -u" but it didn't work19:06
TheLordOfTimewhat error(s)?19:06
obounaimI had no errors but the package didn't show up in the ppa19:06
tumbleweedpersonally, my signing is untirely disconnected from building19:06
TheLordOfTimetumbleweed, doesn't the PPA processor check PGP key signatures on uploads?19:07
tumbleweedI have DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="-i -I -uc -us" so, it never signs when I build19:07
tumbleweedI sign with debsign before uploading19:07
* TheLordOfTime reads the manpage for those commands.19:08
tumbleweed(I build source packages at least 20x more often than I sign and upload them)19:08
TheLordOfTimes/commands/arguments/19:08
tumbleweederr I should have said "in my ~/.devscripts"19:08
TheLordOfTimetumbleweed, he's testing amd64 builds, not i386 which is his system's architecture.19:08
TheLordOfTimetumbleweed, same difference?  :P19:08
tumbleweedand the -i -I are unrelated to signing19:08
* TheLordOfTime assumed it was in ~/.devscripts19:08
tumbleweedto be clear, when I said bulid there, I meant build locally (debuld / dpkg-buildpackage)19:09
TheLordOfTimealso assumed.19:10
TheLordOfTimehaving said this, i think what obounaim's goal is, is to use the PPAs to test whether amd64 builds in Ubuntu for the Debian version of the package they mentioned19:10
tumbleweedobounaim: do you not have amd64-capable hardware?19:11
TheLordOfTimebut upload without signing it themselves or without makikng a changelog entry19:11
tumbleweedusing PPAs for test-building is fairly painful, because PPA builds can take a while...19:11
TheLordOfTimetumbleweed, for the record: <obounaim> I have an i386 Ubuntu on my machine so I want to use a ppa to see if it builds correctly on amd6419:11
TheLordOfTime(scrollbacks, i know)19:11
TheLordOfTimeand i agree, amd64 builds are obscenely long wait times19:11
tumbleweedhow does one still get i386 hardware?19:11
* TheLordOfTime has run into this twice in three days19:11
TheLordOfTimetumbleweed, some older netbooks >3 years old are i386 only19:11
tumbleweedthat's true19:11
obounaimTheLordOfTime, That's true I don't have amd64-capable hardware.19:11
TheLordOfTimeand of course ancient machines.19:12
obounaimI have amd64-capable hardware but I have a i386 of Ubuntu to be correct19:13
TheLordOfTimewell there's the problem.19:13
tumbleweedyou can install an amd64 kernel, and then you'll be able to have amd64 chroots19:13
TheLordOfTimewhat tumbleweed said.19:13
obounaimHow can I do that?19:16
tumbleweedhrm, Ubuntu dosen't have -amd64 kernels, so I assume you'd do it with multiarch19:20
obounaimI have signed the .changes file with debsign and upload it to a ppa but it was rejected "Rejected:Unable to find distroseries: unstable:19:22
tumbleweedPPAs don't build for Debian19:22
Laneyyou can override the target suite at upload time19:24
Laneyhttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading#Using_packages_from_other_distributions19:24
bdrungQuintasan_: poke21:59
bdrungQuintasan_: now it's your turn to sign my key22:00
thedoctori have a question about a package i would like to see carry through23:27
thedoctori would like to see the browser "Opera" come to the universe23:29
thedoctoris this a good endeavor?23:29
jtaylorits closed source23:31
jtaylorso not going to happen23:31
jtayloropera provides an own repository which works fine23:31
thedoctorso how come other closed source software are on the universe?23:55
jtaylorexample?23:56
xnox"Opera" can enter the extras repository or restricted, if Opera the vendor decides to distribute it there.23:56
jtaylorfor restricted you'd have to deal with canonical or?23:57
jtaylorit could go into multiverse but I don't see the need23:57
xnoxOpera needs to allow re-distribution. It's illegal to take software and redistribute it, unless you have permission to do so (which there is a permission to do so)23:57
xnoxthedoctor: if you want Opera in Ubuntu, you need to ask/push Opera to do so.23:57
jtaylorI'm an opera user myself23:58
jtaylorI just use the repository opera themself provide23:58
jtaylornever had issues23:58
xnoxjtaylor: no. restricted & multiverse are both component of Ubuntu. And both require permission to redistribute.23:58
xnoxjtaylor: "partner" repository is via canonical.23:58
thedoctorOkay i was wondering why this hadnt happened yet,23:58
thedoctormakes sense23:58

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