[00:01] <brousch> rick_h: Have you ever poked at Twisted?
[00:01] <rick_h> brousch: not much or realistically
[00:01] <rick_h> but there's a lot in LP and canonical projects
[00:02] <brousch> Twisted is in LP?
[00:02] <rick_h> yea, some of the backend stuff doing the PPA things and such I think
[00:02] <rick_h> I've not had to mess with it personally
[00:02] <rick_h> I keep meaning to bite the bullet and get the books (they're old though) and try it out as I think async python stuff would be good/cool
[00:06] <brousch> A new one is coming out
[00:06] <rick_h> a new book? That'd be awesome
[00:07] <brousch> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025016.do
[00:07] <brousch> Looks like it's out now
[00:07] <rick_h> ah, see it as an early release
[00:07] <rick_h> awesome, will get it now
[00:08] <rick_h> DSUG ftw!
[02:38] <snap-l> Evening
[03:14] <shakes808> evening
[03:23] <shakes808> Can anyone shine some light on cpp "undefined reference to [class]" please? Looking through the forums that come up aren't answering my question. It seems to want to blow up on my creation of a class object in main. Class object;d
[04:17] <greg-g> what. the. fuck. http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[04:22] <greg-g> getting the smack down from Kees: http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2012/11/09/product-search-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[04:26] <jrwren> brousch: twisted is fucking AWESOME!!!
[04:26] <jrwren> also, join python ideas mailing list and read the async discussion that has been going on for past few weeks. and event driven thing very twisted like will be in core fraemwork
[04:27] <jrwren> only thing I don't liek about twisted is that it is older than pep8 so its python style is lame.
[04:27] <rick_h> jrwren: heh, welcome to a crap ton of python
[04:27] <rick_h> jrwren: yea, curious how the async thing goes. I'm porting my tornado app and just going to deploy with gevent/gunicorn so curious what gets built in
[04:28] <rick_h> greg-g: *sigh* though I used to be a wamp and mamp user I guess in the first half of my php days
[04:29] <jrwren> i think what is going to be built in is a stripped down gevent/libevent/libuv like thing made to use yield from to create async generators
[04:29] <jrwren> i am just looking forward to it being standard
[04:29] <rick_h> jrwren: yea, though curious how things like the built in http lib and all that will handle this
[04:30] <rick_h> I mean the thing gevent gives me is the ability to monkey patch the built ins and not need to use the special tornado http client that's async
[04:30] <jrwren> yeah, IMO they need to be augmented from bottom up
[04:30] <rick_h> so that's why i'm curious about how this goes, but it's going to have to be a FULL commitment
[04:30] <rick_h> and a LOT of work
[04:30] <jrwren> but you don't get the benefit unless its async all the way from socket up.
[04:30] <jrwren> exactly.
[04:31] <rick_h> right, so honestly I've not followed the discussion 100% as it seems almost like a py4/async was to py3/unicode kind of thing
[04:31] <rick_h> but who knows I guess.
[04:31]  * rick_h crosses fingers
[04:32] <rick_h> greg-g: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/XYhe7tpQL98OooD4KCWn/ :)
[04:32] <rick_h> merry christmas to me...hopefully...
[04:33] <greg-g> rick_h: niiice!
[04:34] <rick_h> custom made ftw ... hopefully
[04:43] <shakes808> good night
[04:44] <jrwren> i think it will make it into 3.4, but I may be overly optimistic
[04:46] <rick_h> I'm sure there will be a library in 3.4, but I don't think it'll be used in all the underlying libraries for a lot of time to come
[04:47] <jrwren> ah, good point
[04:47] <jrwren> damn shame.
[04:47] <jrwren> and that is what makes twisted awesome.
[11:47] <brousch> East siders, check this out. Star Wars will be in the Garden City parade http://paste.mitechie.com/show/838/
[13:14] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:21] <shakes808> Good morning
[13:21] <shakes808> You're up early
[13:21] <snap-l> Cat is in heat
[13:21] <shakes808> Wasn't expecting activity in here for a while lol
[13:21] <shakes808> AAAAAhhh
[13:21] <snap-l> so sleeping is not an option
[13:22] <shakes808> the annoying cries to be plowed
[13:22] <shakes808> I don't miss that lol
[13:22] <snap-l> Have called the vet, and am trying to figure out how she got Justin Beiber posters in her litterbox
[13:22] <shakes808> HA HA
[13:22] <shakes808> Those shifty Beiber fans are relentless
[13:22] <shakes808> lol
[15:19] <rick_h> lol, morning
[15:23] <rick_h> ah the smell of wood in the morning  https://plus.google.com/u/0/116120911388966791792/posts/AcvRvdozEA7 :)
[15:28] <shakes808> Morning
[15:29] <rick_h> jcastro_: curse you, I went looking at other SE sites and now I'm going to have info overload
[15:37]  * rick_h goes out and cries http://codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/18349/improve-speed-for-looping-through-1-000s-of-items-in-javascript
[15:40] <snap-l> NC dude would have a field day
[15:40] <jcastro_> rick_h: I know right
[15:41] <rick_h> jcastro_: you suck! biking, code review, diy...there went my day!
[15:41] <rick_h> good thing there's no woodworking on
[15:41] <rick_h> /on/one
[15:41] <rick_h> UX one crap!
[15:44]  * rick_h goes and cries some more http://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/20525/can-i-make-cabinet-doors-out-of-mdf
[15:49] <jcastro_> I am assembling a workout tower
[15:49] <jcastro_> little by little
[15:49] <jcastro_> but I keep coming back to the computer
[15:58] <jrwren> reminds me i need to checkout ltsp SE
[16:04] <snap-l> rick_h: Hehehehehehehe
[16:05] <snap-l> jcastro_: workout tower?
[17:11] <jcastro_> this pull up thing
[17:11] <jcastro_> that I just put together wrong
[17:12] <jcastro_> so I am taking a break, heh
[17:12] <rick_h> heh, I got one long ago that took me two days to put together
[17:13] <rick_h> I think I had something like 8 full hours into it
[17:13] <jcastro_> this one wasn't bad
[17:14] <jcastro_> I just put the arms facing the wrong way
[17:14] <rick_h> doh
[17:14] <jcastro_> it's an easy fix
[17:14] <jcastro_> just ran out of steam
[17:14] <jcastro_> back to SE for a bit!! :)
[17:16] <rick_h> hah, I was just loading up but it doesn't have a good way to just look at sites you have accounts on
[17:22] <jcastro_> for me or for anyone?
[17:22] <snap-l> Yeah, there's only one drop-down that'll show you what sites you're on
[17:22] <jcastro_> http://stackexchange.com/users/212239/jorge-castro
[17:22] <jcastro_> has them all
[17:23] <rick_h> so I went to stackexchange and when I click the little thing in the top left it shows all sites
[17:23] <rick_h> but I only want a list of ones I'm on
[17:23] <rick_h> I guess it does list under accounts on my page
[17:24] <rick_h> and 'view more' :/
[17:25] <jcastro_> there's a tab for accounts
[17:25] <jcastro_> http://stackexchange.com/users/212239/jorge-castro?tab=accounts
[17:26] <snap-l> jcastro_: Are you going to be able to make it to MUG next week?
[17:26] <jcastro_> depends if mramm goes
[17:26] <jcastro_> I still only have one car and jill works 9-9pm on tuesdays, :-/
[17:27] <rick_h> snap-l: not going to make it. All I'd talk about would be py3 on install anyway
[17:29] <snap-l> jcastro_: Ask Jim Gluting or Dave Satwicz if they'll come get you
[17:29] <snap-l> I think they'd be more than happy
[17:30] <snap-l> rick_h: Bummer
[17:30] <jcastro_> are they in the AA area?
[17:30] <snap-l> They're on the west side, and said they'd make sure you made it
[17:30] <snap-l> I'm bringing a desktop machine with a wireless keyboard so folks can talk about Ubuntu 12.10, stone soup style
[17:41] <jcastro_> woo
[17:41] <jcastro_> I'll ask them
[17:47] <brousch> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/12yuxw/my_new_fridge_runs_linux/
[18:10] <greg-g> anyone here using jabber.org jabber accounts? Can you currently connect? Just diagnosing if it is on my end or theirs
[18:10] <greg-g> I ask because my gtalk login for work works
[18:12] <greg-g> rick_h: what are you making?
[18:21] <rick_h> greg-g: not using jabber.org so can't say
[18:21] <rick_h> greg-g: working on a saw bench hook so I can cut the parts to my drawers for that box I was working on better: http://www.badaxetoolworks.com/bad-axe-bench-hook-sets.html
[18:21] <rick_h> less fancy version
[18:22] <rick_h> greg-g: see
[18:22] <rick_h> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t82QZ_g3QPE
[18:29] <greg-g> rick_h: gotcha, awesome.
[18:30] <rick_h> yea, I'll have an action shot in a bit after the glue dries on the other side
[18:30] <rick_h> but yea, need to get to work on the drawers and get that done
[20:04] <rick_h> greg-g: https://plus.google.com/u/0/116120911388966791792/posts/6R8Y6vvooDH
[20:26] <snap-l> rick_h: nice!
[20:26] <snap-l> rick_h: Those are looking quite good
[20:27] <rick_h> it's like programming. You spend 3 days building a tool to help make the original project go easier
[23:23] <rick_h> very cool http://www.issackelly.com/blog/2012/11/10/philips-hue-api-hacking/