[00:00] <Seveas> blazemore, absolutely
[00:00] <pwnsauce_> I'm having a sound issue on Hybryde Evolution
[00:00] <blazemore> I'll just do that then, at least I know how to use them when things break!
[00:00] <jrib> blazemore: pretty sure debian doesn't use upstart, best to ask #debian
[00:00] <pwnsauce_> Could I get some assistance with this
[00:00] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Is that the little Dell machine?
[00:00] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: Its an alienware, so yeah
[00:00] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Is it tiny?
[00:01] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: I mean, physically
[00:01] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: No, its huge, weighs like 10+ pounds
[00:01] <pwnsauce_> seriously
[00:01] <blazemore> Oh. I can maybe help anyway if you describe your issue in a little more detail
[00:01] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: Its an alienware mx17r3
[00:02] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: Ah, my thanks sir. I just installed hybryde evolution and I can't get the sound to work
[00:02] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: So what's the sound problem you're having?
[00:02] <dtcrshr> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1346544/
[00:02] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Sorry, crossed wires :)
[00:02] <pwnsauce_> using ubuntu 12.04 precise
[00:03] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Isn't Hybryde a distro?
[00:03] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  yes
[00:03] <blazemore> And you can't get sound to work at all?
[00:03] <blazemore> Does sound work in normal Ubuntu on the same hardware?
[00:03] <walterwoj> Is YPOPs still active?  Is there a better substitute?
[00:04] <nostrum_> sorry I missed peoples input got a call, so let me ask again here and maybe get a few more responses... best google drive client for ubuntu right now is what?
[00:04] <almoxarife> nostrum_: the browser!
[00:04] <blazemore> walterwoj: The latest version of YPOPS was released on 10th of March 2009
[00:04] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: I used peppermint 2 os before this, and I had to configure the sound, but I had the support from the forums at peppermint.. very nice people btw, great distro pep2/pep3
[00:04] <blazemore> nostrum_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/insync-brings-google-drive-to-ubuntu
[00:05] <nostrum_> almoxarife: but I need it synced cause I don't trust google's server backup
[00:05] <walterwoj> blazemore: So I guess thats a no.
[00:05] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Sadly I don't actually know about sound problems much
[00:05] <nostrum_> almoxarife: I wish they had rsync capabilities
[00:05] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  No worries, thanks for asking and attempting
[00:05] <cyphase> gah, nautilus keeps sorting my home directory (and some other random directories i think) by modification date and in reversed order. anyone know how to fix this?
[00:05] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: I jumped on your issue because Dell make a PC called the "hybrid" which I have, and you have to install a specific package to get audio over HDMI. I thought that might have been related but it's not. Have you tried following the sound troubleshooting guide on the Wiki?
[00:06] <nostrum_> blazemore: have you used it before? did it work well and not mess up your drive or local storage?
[00:06] <blazemore> nostrum_: Never touched it :)
[00:06] <blazemore> nostrum_: I've heard good things about it though on Reddit and OMG!
[00:06] <almoxarife> nostrum_: you dont what? be for real, you dont trust google to backup?
[00:06] <nostrum_> blazemore: well then I'd argue you shouldn't recommend it :)
[00:06] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: If you could point me in the direction of someone or a page that could, I would be in your debt
[00:06] <walterwoj> Anyone know a good way (other than the browser) for getting mail from yahoo?
[00:06] <cyphase> walterwoj, hold on
[00:07] <blazemore> nostrum_: I didn't recommend it I just sent you the link in case you hadn't come across that one yet
[00:07] <cyphase> walterwoj, http://fetchyahoo.twizzler.org/
[00:07] <nostrum_> almoxarife: nope I don't trust anyone, plus I've had issues with google before losing files
[00:07] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Let's do this
[00:07] <almoxarife> i would recommend insync, but i expect that after beta they will want $$$$$!!!!
[00:07] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Open a terminal and run "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav"
[00:07] <almoxarife> nostrum_: good luck
[00:08] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Do you hear anything? (I apologise if you get a file not found error)
[00:08] <MonkeyDust> pwnsauce_  or aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[00:08] <Jordan_U> dtcrshr: Do you know why you have an xfs partition for /tmp/?
[00:08] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  No sound, but I recieved this as the repsonse
[00:08] <pwnsauce_> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[00:08] <walterwoj> cyphase: Thanks I'll check it out.
[00:09] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/Alsamixer
[00:09] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: sorry, disregard that
[00:09] <pwnsauce_> yeah I was testing that earlier
[00:09] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[00:09] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  Actually
[00:09] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: then run pavucontrol
[00:09] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  I could use your help in figuring out where to put two lines of code
[00:10] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: In a config file
[00:10] <cyphase> walterwoj, no problem. it works well (though i haven't run it in a while)
[00:10] <dtcrshr> Jordan_U: yes. for kdenlive a xfs partition for tmp helps significantly on performance
[00:10] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  Ran both of those
[00:10] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Are you following some instructions? If so, link them here
[00:10] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: So we're both on the same page
[00:10] <SeducingOrange> I just installed ubuntu and decided to remove windows. I made a gparted live CD and removed the NTFS partitions. It finished (really quickly) and I rebooted. Instead of booting up ubuntu it says Intel UNDI, PXE-2.1 No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[00:10] <Jordan_U> dtcrshr: Never mind, I have a guess at what happened. Are you looking for your music in ~/Music or ~/Música ?
[00:11] <blazemore> SeducingOrange: Did you actually install Ubuntu?
[00:11] <SeducingOrange> blazemore: Yeah. It was working fine
[00:11] <almoxarife> blazemore: pwnsauce_, i recommend running/install 'alsamixer' and insure that all 'mm' are cleared from 'outputs' first
[00:11] <dtcrshr> the /images, / music are just fine, the files were there
[00:11] <dtcrshr> the problem is the files that were on the desktop
[00:11] <SeducingOrange> blazemore: I am thinking that my hardrive failed and it is trying to boot from network but I am not sure
[00:11] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: did you move the ubuntu partition
[00:12] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: I resized it to fill up the disk
[00:12] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: did you move its start? then you need to reinstall grub
[00:12] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: No. Just resized it
[00:12] <krababbel> moving the start of a partition changes its ID.
[00:12] <dtcrshr> the user i use is mauro Jordan_U
[00:13] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: Are all of the files still there? I cant boot from a disc either...
[00:13] <Jordan_U> dtcrshr: That's not what I asked. It looks like all of your directories have been translated into Spanish.
[00:14] <dtcrshr> its portuguese
[00:14] <dtcrshr> when i first installed 10.10, i choosed portuguese also
[00:14] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: How do I go about reinstalling grub? I am really panicking here :(
[00:14] <Jordan_U> dtcrshr: OK, what directory are you looking for to find your "Desktop"?
[00:14] <m3rl0x> how would i make it so that another user other than root can cat /var/log/audit/audit.log
[00:15] <walterwoj> Has anyone tried to use gwibber with facebook?  I can't get mine to update,  I authorize it and it says success and then nothing...
[00:15] <Jordan_U> SeducingOrange: Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB?
[00:16] <SeducingOrange> Jordan_U: I tried to boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD and I just got a black screen
[00:16] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | SeducingOrange
[00:16] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[00:16] <walterwoj> Also, how do you get a console open?  I can't find it...
[00:17] <SeducingOrange> Jordan_U: I booted before without any boot parameteres
[00:17] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: everything should be fine, you just changed the root partition ID, and grub doesn't know that automatically
[00:17] <m3rl0x> how would i make it so that another user other than root can cat /var/log/audit/audit.log
[00:17] <SeducingOrange> I thing that I am most concerned about is losing all of the files
[00:17] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: Okay. Thanks a lot for the help :)
[00:17] <dtcrshr> iv tried the "area de trabalho"
[00:18] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: read the link, use an ubuntu live cd to reinstall grub2 :)
[00:18] <dtcrshr> which is desktop into portuguese
[00:18] <SeducingOrange>  krababbel: Okay. The problem is is that I cant boot a livecd tho. Like I said I get a black screen. When I booted the disc to install and when I booted the grub disc I didnt need a special boot parameter
[00:19] <loculinux> hi
[00:19] <jrib> dtcrshr: could you pastebin ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs?  Also, I hope you find your files, but whether or not you do, you should realize how important it is to have backups.  Everyone has this moment, where they get a sinking feeling in their gut because they may have just lost some files forever and have no backups.  The smart ones, only have this feeling one time :)
[00:19] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: try the parameter, sometimes PCs do weird things, like suddenly not working the same way they did 5 minutes before
[00:20] <johalfar> hey all
[00:20] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: so, yes just try to boot the install cd again
[00:20] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: Okay. Ill try. Ill come back in an hour or so if I need help again :)
[00:20] <johalfar> is there anybody here from Costa Rica?
[00:21] <LoneWlf> every time I tell my machine to reboot.. it crashes
[00:21] <YokoBR> hey guys, can't enable wireless or install ati driver, says that can't find kernel header or source
[00:22] <dtcrshr> i know. the bad think is that this is a friends notebook. I myself installed ubuntu 10.10 about an year ago. since on the update manager it asked that the ubuntu version he was using, i took it to update here on the university. I only did was login into my user, i didnt even entered his mauro user, and updated via the graphical environment. after that, i got the notebook back to him, but his desktop files are gone. Im into a bad situation, si
[00:22] <dtcrshr> nce I didnt realize i had to backup his files only because of a dist upgrade, never imagined such a caveat this horribly managed to update and delete desktop files
[00:22] <dtcrshr> now its my fault. he complains that i had never had to update if i lost his job
[00:22] <LoneWlf> this is no good, I don't have a remote console or remote rebooter switch, I need to fix this... its dying at swapper, has a kernel panic, right after drives unmount
[00:22] <LoneWlf> has anyone seen this before?
[00:22] <jValentin1> any tips on proper way to mount a windows shared folder in my ubuntu 21.04 running in a vmware box? been trying for a couple of days with no luck
[00:22] <jrib> dtcrshr: so the "mauro" user is the one whose files are missing?
[00:22] <dtcrshr> yes
[00:23] <dtcrshr> i created my name just to use when iv installed, no big deal
[00:23] <dtcrshr> I clearly remember his desktop when he was working
[00:23] <jrib> dtcrshr: what's one file you know for sure is missing?
[00:23] <dtcrshr> some icons, shortcuts, some files, folders
[00:24] <dtcrshr> for instance a video - m2u00903
[00:24] <YokoBR> please guys, i can't activate any driver on jockey http://pastebin.com/dt20Xpva
[00:24] <jrib> dtcrshr: because I think at some point there was a switch from using ~/Desktop for downloads to ~/Downloads.  Are you sure that his files aren't in ~/Downloads (or the translated version)?
[00:24] <dtcrshr> dont remember the extension
[00:24] <dtcrshr> download word isnt translated to the portuguese distros
[00:24] <dtcrshr> we brasilians just eat up the english language without complaining :D
[00:24] <jrib> !who | dtcrshr
[00:25]  * PoolShark_ returns
[00:25] <k1l_> YokoBR: copy the whole errormsg (if its more than a line please into a pastebin) and show it to us.
[00:25] <YokoBR> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/dt20Xpva
[00:25] <k1l_> YokoBR: and tell us what ubuntu you are using, what kernel, what did you modify etc
[00:26] <YokoBR> k1l_, my life went into a mess when i upgraded to ubuntu 12.04
[00:26] <YokoBR> and my kernel is 3.2.6
[00:27] <k1l_> YokoBR: that is no ubuntu kernel
[00:27] <escott> jValentin1, bridged or NAT
[00:28] <dwarder> is there a gui utility to configure redshift?
[00:28] <dwarder> not this toggle thingie
[00:28] <dtcrshr> jrib: on the XDG_DESKTOP-DIR="$HOME/Area de Trabalho"
[00:28] <jrib> dtcrshr: just pastebin the whole file
[00:29] <dtcrshr> its about 10 lines, but im accessing it via another computer here, via team viewer, do you really need the whole file?
[00:29] <YokoBR> k1l_ but system monitor says Ubuntu Release 12.04 (precise) 64-bit Kernel Linux 3.2.6
[00:30] <jrib> dtcrshr: use the command line program "pastebinit" if it's easier for you
[00:30] <dtcrshr> jrib: he confirmed a folder name with certain: 240309
[00:30] <mspencer>  When I run pbuilder-dist, I'm getting file not found errors when it tries to download some needed packages. What can I do to fix this?
[00:30] <dtcrshr> hm sure think, ill do that[
[00:31] <k1l_> YokoBR: as you can see: 12.04 got only the 3.2.0- kernels http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image
[00:31] <mspencer> My command I'm running is 'pbuilder-dist raring build ../apport_2.6.2-0ubuntu3.dsc'
[00:32] <k1l_> YokoBR: so what ubuntu is it? (or is it a ubuntu spinoff?), or did you manually install a kernel. or do you have a PPA active which got other kernels,....
[00:32] <YokoBR> the third option, i have backtrack ppa
[00:33] <YokoBR> k1l_, backtrack ppa must have installed this kernel..
[00:33] <k1l_> YokoBR: ok, then ask the backtrack guys what they are doing wrong. its not an ubuntu problem
[00:33] <YokoBR> ok, sorry then, dude
[00:34] <dtcrshr> jrib: can you help me with the pastebinit sintaxe?
[00:34] <k1l_> or use ppa-purge to get rid of that ppa. a standard ubuntu should do
[00:34] <dtcrshr> iv tryed pastebinit cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[00:35] <jrib> dtcrshr: pastebinit FILE
[00:36] <dtcrshr> jrib: paste.ubuntu.com/1346612
[00:37] <SeducingOrange> I was able to boot into a root console for the ubuntu partition. How do I rescue it?
[00:38] <walterwoj> How do you find a console?
[00:39] <SeducingOrange> walterwoj: What I put in a grub LiveCD and rescued it. I got as far as console and now I do not know what to do
[00:39] <d1gital> is there some app that'll give me cool scratchpad functionality like the one found in ion3/notion?
[00:40] <SeducingOrange> Please help me. I have no clue what to do. Someone said that the partition ID changed... How do I set it back?
[00:40] <trism> mspencer: I would guess pbuilder-dist raring update; first
[00:40] <SeducingOrange> I got into a root console on it
[00:40] <ghostconn> is there a flstudio alternative for ubuntu 2.04
[00:41] <mspencer> trism: Okay, I'll try that
[00:41] <walterwoj> SeducingOrange: Sorry I can't help you,  I know less about this than you do... I'm trying to find out how to OPEN a console in this newfangled interface (GRRRRRR!)
[00:41] <d1gital> ghostconn: lmms is.. unfinished.  ardour is cool, but it's a little different from fl.
[00:42] <trism> walterwoj: ctrl+alt+t?
[00:42] <ghostconn> d1gital : thanks buddy :)
[00:42] <breiak> I just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu for the first time, everything seems to be working fine except the sound. for some reason theres no audio at all.
[00:42] <SeducingOrange> walterwoj: Oh. I can help you with that. Press dash home in the top left corner then type Terminal, after that eiher click it or drag it to your side bar. You can also type C-M t
[00:42] <walterwoj> trism: Thanks!
[00:42] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: what changed?
[00:42] <breiak> Any suggestions?
[00:43] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: I got into a root console on the ubuntu partition. How do I change back the boot id?
[00:43] <walterwoj> SeducingOrange: Thank you too!
[00:43] <thanigai> i am having wifi adhoc  isuue
[00:43] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: What I'm asking is what changed that made this happen?
[00:43] <SeducingOrange> walterwoj: no problem
[00:44] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: I booted a grub live CD and booted my ubuntu partition from that. How do I go about reinstalling grub and fixing X?
[00:45] <SeducingOrange> oh wait. nevermind, grub-install
[00:45] <SeducingOrange> is this right?
[00:45] <breiak> Can anyone help me setup my sound?
[00:46] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: Everyone sets up partitioning differently …. I set up a 500MB ext2 primary partition and install grub to that, it depends on how you set things up in the first place
[00:46] <breiak> ?
[00:46] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[00:46] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Thanks a lot :D
[00:47] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: After that, will X be already setup?
[00:47] <ghostconn> is there any software for ubuntu 12.04 to use my Novation Launchpad Ableton Live Controller?
[00:47] <ghostconn> i hope so or im gunna be saddd
[00:48] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: its really nothing, just googled that, I have done this before, but i setup a partition just for this purpose -- re: X I am not sure. Grub just says which partition to boot from I think
[00:48] <ryan_> is the easiest way to make your own live cd/distro by virtual machine? and if so what program do you use to make the live cd etc?
[00:48] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Ok. X should be easy to setup after that. I did come from Arch Linux after all!
[00:48] <breiak> anyone please?
[00:48] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: It should go back to normal if nothing destructive happened prior to the event...
[00:50] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Is resizing ubuntu ad deleting windows partitions destructive? All data seems to be intact however
[00:50] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: That is what I was trying to determine before -- hence the question "what happened?" usually you don't have grub issues unless some destructive event occurs, i.e. file or disk corruption
[00:50] <breiak> i dont have any sound what do I do?
[00:50] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Yeah
[00:50] <dtcrshr> jrib: any clues?
[00:50] <jrib> dtcrshr: no
[00:51] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Thanks a lot for your help, comrade. I will see you on the other side!
[00:51] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: IMHO if you have a backup, you should just format C: you know…
[00:51] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: best of luck
[00:52] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Didnt have one. Was setting up PC for a old laptop for my even older Aunt. I really appreciate your helo :) see ya around!
[00:52] <ghostconn> lmms is horrible lol
[00:53] <ghostconn> where is the heart of producing with linux? im guessing there is no equivalent software such as fl studio or ableton ? I heard that linux had a ton lol
[00:56] <jValentin1> escott: bridged, I read that I needed to use bridged so I switched to that
[00:56] <escott> jValentin1, should make your life easier
[00:58] <jValentin1> escott: it doesn't seem to help
[00:58] <escott> jValentin1, can the windows machine ping the vm
[00:59] <dtcrshr> ghostconn: i use kxstudio. ardour for DAW, rosegarden or mixxx to build some sequences
[00:59] <dtcrshr> hidrogen for drumssssssss
[00:59] <dtcrshr> many others. if you have a nice interface you should try using a rt kernel also
[00:59] <jValentin1> escott:  just did a succesful ping
[01:00] <escott> jValentin1, so what have your tried to set up to mount?
[01:00] <NaN123> :P
[01:00] <ghostconn> ill try it out thanks dtcrshr
[01:00] <jValentin1> escott:  first, pmount /media/win-work/ work, but that didn't work (no pun intended)
[01:00] <breiak> i dont have any sound what do I do?
[01:00] <WHAT_UP> what does while [ - e /proc/1234 ] actually do? what is the -e ?
[01:00] <ghostconn> is there a good piano rool that I can use my ableton Live Controller
[01:01] <escott> jValentin1, i dont know pmount does
[01:01] <jValentin1> hmm, got that off the web, maybe I used the wrong method
[01:01] <escott> WHAT_UP, checks for the existence of that folder (and no space between - and e) its also a dead stupid thing to put in a script
[01:02] <WHAT_UP> escott: why's it stupid?
[01:02] <minas> when I saw some videos about 12.10 beta, there was an icon at the top right corner where you could see ubuntu one synchronization progress. However, after I upgraded to 12.10 I don't see it. Do I have to install it somehow?
[01:02] <escott> WHAT_UP, nothing would guarantee the process PID is 1234
[01:03] <WHAT_UP> escott: right, i put that in here because i didn't think you'd all care about seeing %d s
[01:04] <escott> jValentin1, can you get to stuff with smb://ipaddress in nautilus
[01:05] <justaneewbie> hey ppl
[01:05] <justaneewbie>  i need some help with watt os
[01:06] <WHAT_UP> justaneewbie: this channel doesn't support offshoots of ubuntu
[01:07] <justaneewbie> any body can help me with my watt os distro ?
[01:07] <breiak> can anyone tell me how to get my sound to work on ubuntu please?
[01:08] <justaneewbie> im havving soome sort of problems intsalling apps on watt os r6
[01:08] <Ben64> !details | breiak
[01:08] <jValentin1> escott: yes, that worked fine from within nautilus, providing the workgroup, username and pw
[01:08] <Seveas> justaneewbie, find the watt os support please (hint: it's not here)
[01:09] <escott> jValentin1, then its just cause your pmount command isn't working. its not a networking issue
[01:09] <OerHeks> justaneewbie, we don't support forks, better ask @ http://www.planetwatt.com/chat
[01:09] <Seveas> jValentin1, if you visit it in nautilus, you can then also see it in ~/.gvfs/
[01:10] <sneakyimp_> !ide
[01:11] <jValentin1> Seveas: thanks for that, it should help
[01:11] <jValentin1> but was also trying to make this a permanent share
[01:12] <sneakyimp_> i'm using Ubuntu 11.10. Can anyone tell me whether I can use an IDE for KDE or GNOME ?
[01:12] <jValentin1> escott: I realized my understanding of pmount is wrong and I probably entered it wrong
[01:13] <breiak> I have a problem with my audio its not working at all, I'm running 12.10, This is my first linux desktop so I dont know how to begin.
[01:13] <Seveas> jValentin1, pmount isn't the right thing to do for permanent shares. You'll need to add it to /etc/fstab as a cifs mount
[01:13] <jValentin1> I think pmount is for mounting removable devices as normal user, but maybe I don't need that
[01:14] <Seveas> jValentin1, correct, that's what pmount was for
[01:14] <sneakyimp_> breiak, you should probably make sure you have the speakers plugged into the right output first of all
[01:14] <dauntless> breiak: what make model computer,
[01:15] <breiak> sneakyimp_, They are - everything sounds perfectly fine in windows
[01:15] <willdabeast> Anybody know why I don't have the option for 3D mode on the login screen? I am using the correct video card driver
[01:15] <breiak> dauntless, its an Intel pc with an onboard soundcard.
[01:15] <jValentin1> Seveas, I also tried modifying fstab and then a new device appears in nautilus, but when I click on it the message comes up "unable to mount"
[01:16] <dauntless> break, so was it working BEFORE you installed 12.10
[01:16] <sneakyimp_> breiak, so everything sounds good and without changing any connections you boot into ubuntu and no audio?
[01:16] <Seveas> jValentin1, then the line in /etc/fstab was wrong, or you didn't do 'mount -a' after adding it
[01:16] <breiak> sneakyimp_, exactly.
[01:17] <PoolShark_> I wonder if Emery ever got vidalia workinfg
[01:17] <dauntless> breiak, do you happen to know what make/nodel of your mobo?
[01:17] <PoolShark_> heh
[01:17] <breiak> dauntless, I really have no idea what a mobo is.
[01:17] <dauntless> breiak: motherboard
[01:17] <breiak> Hmm, not sure.
[01:17] <breiak> How do I find that out?
[01:18] <sneakyimp_> breiak, mobo=motherboard --
[01:18] <kostkon> breiak, did you try to setup your sound by selecting system settings and then sound.
[01:18] <breiak> I did try to play with that for a bit kostkon , with no success.
[01:18] <dauntless> breiak: sudo dmidecode | more
[01:19] <Seveas> jValentin1, a correct cifs mount line looks like this: //10.1.1.1/Sharename/Folder	/path/to/local/folder	cifs	username=myuser,password=mypass,soft,uid=1000,file_mode=0600,dir_mode=0700	0 0
[01:20] <dauntless> breiak: assuming you know to run that from a terminal
[01:20] <breiak> dauntless, I do: http://pastebin.com/Bd2rmVq2
[01:20] <jValentin1> Seveas:  ok, I found something different (via google):
[01:20] <jValentin1> .host:/work    /media/win-work     vmhgfs  rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[01:21] <sneakyimp_> !ide
[01:21] <Seveas> jValentin1, that's rather wrong for a samba/cifs share. Try mine
[01:21] <jValentin1> Seveas: in previous versions of Ubuntu, I did not need to add my username/pw to fstab
[01:21] <sneakyimp_> !ide
[01:22] <Seveas> jValentin1, if the share doesn't require authentication you don't need to add that
[01:22] <jValentin1> is there another way to mount just using the shares I added to my vmware box?
[01:22] <breiak> dauntless, does that help?
[01:22] <OerHeks> sneakyimp_, scroll back, you allready have the answer from ubottu
[01:22] <dauntless> breiak: not exactly what we wanted,  -- the thing is, 12.10 is very recent and it _should_ work, but if for some weird reason the kernel doesn't support the audio chipset that could be your problem
[01:23] <sneakyimp_> oerheks: thx.  flood control i'm guessing
[01:23] <dauntless> breiak: have you ever had linux on this box with audio working?
[01:23] <breiak> yea
[01:23] <yogurtdog> Hey, does anyone know if you can setup software RAID1 from 12.04 LTS? The wiki on ubuntu.com is outdated (9.10)
[01:23] <breiak> it was ubuntu 10 something
[01:23] <dauntless> breiak: what release?
[01:24] <breiak> dauntless, I think 10.10
[01:24] <dwarder> redshift rule for my old notebook
[01:26] <dauntless> breiak: sounds like 12.10 might have an issue, or you don't have the proper driver installed or config is messed up
[01:26] <sneakyimp_> can anyone tell me if qtcreator supports development of PHP or Java code?
[01:27] <jValentin1> I remember older versions of ubuntu didn't require mounting  via samba,  so I really would like to find those methods again
[01:27] <kostkon> breiak, could you give in a terminal:  aplay -l
[01:27] <escott> jValentin1, CIFS
[01:28] <breiak> kostkon, http://pastebin.com/1NWM7P1u
[01:29] <kostkon> breiak, try again to setup your sound. try all the possible combinations of devices, connectors, etc. also check the volume levels.
[01:29] <dauntless> breiak: when you did the dmidecode, did you find a string with motherboard? you are looking for a Motherboard model
[01:30] <breiak> dauntless, I pastebinned everything that was there, that was it :/
[01:32] <breiak> kostkon, I cant get it to work
[01:32] <kostkon> breiak, what do you mean
[01:32] <breiak> kostkon, I literally tried every combination that was there
[01:33] <kostkon> breiak, how are you testing it?
[01:33] <dauntless> breiak: this might be of help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25430/audio-not-working
[01:33] <breiak> kostkon, using the test button.
[01:34] <kostkon> breiak, test button?
[01:34] <dauntless> breiak: also, have you tried headphones? I know it might seem counterintuitive.
[01:34] <kostkon> breiak, try playing an audio file
[01:36] <breiak> i tried it
[01:38] <kostkon> breiak, ok, open a terminal and give: alsamixer
[01:39] <kostkon> breiak, did it run?
[01:39] <breiak> yes
[01:41] <kostkon> breiak, press F5 and then check all the volume levels and switches, if there are any
[01:41] <diamonds> trying to fix my openwrt router, attempting to eliminate the possibility that I have a networking issue with ubuntu
[01:41] <diamonds> I have the router in debug/reset mode, and have been told to connect & telnet to it
[01:42] <diamonds> I plug it to the computer and the computer sees a "Wired connection 1" but try as it might it can't seem to connect
[01:43] <breiak> kostkon, what do you mean by check them? check them for what?
[01:43] <diamonds> I've tried restarting the networking service
[01:43] <diamonds> ifconfig does not show me a ipv4 address for eth0
[01:43] <kostkon> breiak, just increase all of them to 100%
[01:43] <kostkon> breiak, just to be sure
[01:44] <breiak> ok done kostkon
[01:45] <kostkon> breiak, also try to unmute everything
[01:47] <terran42> This comment has also been logged lol
[01:49]  * n0sq wonders when the developers are going to fix these IM problems
[01:52] <IHAXEX1337> hello everyone
[01:52] <spaceneedle> Re:Ubuntu Tweak--- I just got a  not enough memory error.  Weird. Tweak has been wonky  for me lately.
[01:52] <IHAXEX1337> how could i create a bootable usb of pinguy os 12.04
[01:52] <IHAXEX1337> ???
[01:55] <ghostconn> i cant get my netgear wpn111 usb wireless working... I have tried installing the .inf file using windows wireless drivers and it dose show that hardware is present but under network connections I get no signal
[01:55] <ghostconn> please help me
[01:55] <IHAXEX1337> how could i create a bootable usb drive of pinguy os 12.04 ????
[01:57] <ghostconn> IHAXEX1337  :     http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[01:57] <ghostconn> that should point you in the right direction
[01:58] <IHAXEX1337> thanks ghostconn :)
[01:58] <ghostconn> np
[01:58] <john_doe_jr> I've converted a pdf to html but I don't like the line wrapping or the font..can anyone suggest what to do about that?
[01:58] <IHAXEX1337> im actually on xubuntu thou :(
[01:59] <ghostconn> IHAXEX1377 :         http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:00] <ghostconn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1918318
[02:00] <ghostconn> :)
[02:01] <OerHeks> john_doe_jr, perhaps use a html editor
[02:01] <IHAXEX1337> thank you much much much better :) :)
[02:01] <ghostconn> sudo apt-get isntall UNetbootin
[02:01] <kostkon> john_doe_jr, open the css file, or if it is embedded in the html, the html file and search for the text-align css property. more info here http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_text-align.asp for example
[02:01] <ghostconn> type that command into a termianl
[02:02] <ghostconn> i hope that helped
[02:03] <john_doe_jr> kostkon: I'm using pdftohtml program …can I do that from the command line so that the default font is larger so I won't have to edit the text-align
[02:03] <kostkon> john_doe_jr, no idea :(
[02:03] <kostkon> john_doe_jr, try reading its manual, if it has one:  man pdftohtml
[02:04] <john_doe_jr> kostkon: I did read the manual
[02:05] <kostkon> john_doe_jr, ok
[02:05] <IHAXEX1337> i have question thou i have just downloaded from somewhere and it is a linux executable file but it says that there is no program that can run that type of file ???
[02:05] <dwarder> how do i make netbeans menu font smaller?
[02:05] <dwarder> and dir tree
[02:06] <dwarder> 7.2
[02:06] <IHAXEX1337> NVM thanks guys
[02:07] <diamonds> what does it mean "networking stop/waiting" as output from service networking status
[02:08] <diamonds> networking shows as enabled in Unity
[02:09] <IHAXEX1337> goodbye
[02:10] <Chaterz> someone here know about Apache ? tnx
[02:10] <OerHeks> Chaterz, just ask the real question and find out?
[02:11] <Chaterz> what can i do with Apache,tnx
[02:11] <xangua> ...
[02:11] <vn> hi, how can I kill a process that doesnt bulge with a kill -9, without rebooting?  I think it's because I killed the screen window without terminating a script.sh &
[02:11] <dwarder> in there a way to add font size(besides normal small large) to universal access panel?
[02:12] <dwarder> i need something between small and normal
[02:13] <ghostconn> can someone help me get my netgear usb wpn111 working
[02:13] <Chaterz> OerHeks, ??
[02:13] <OerHeks> Chaterz, apache is a HTTP or webServer
[02:14] <dauntless> vn: assuming you used sudo?
[02:14] <Chaterz> if i have two machines and internet, i can do a britge with a apage to share files betwen both machines ?
[02:14] <Chaterz> with Apache*
[02:15] <OerHeks> Chaterz, i would use NFS or samba to share files, not apache
[02:16] <Chaterz> why not Apache ?
[02:17] <dauntless> Chaterz: are the two machines in different places?
[02:17] <Chaterz> dauntless, not exactly ,same place.
[02:18] <Chaterz> OerHeks, i need to find something easy to configure and for machines in different places
[02:18] <dauntless> chaterz: ok, are they on the same network or on different networks?
[02:18] <dauntless> the easier way to use files from different places is to use dropbox
[02:19] <dauntless> but is depends on what you are trying to do
[02:19] <Chaterz> same wifi network,two laps. for example.
[02:19] <dauntless> ok, so what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:19] <stoneguy> msg nickserv identify hznhyrejknzs
[02:19] <Chaterz> dauntless, then apache or samba is for what ¿?
[02:19] <dauntless> where's the "/" ;P
[02:20] <dauntless> what OS are the two computers running
[02:20] <ghostconn> i cant get my netgear wpn111 usb wireless working... I have tried installing the .inf file using windows wireless drivers and it dose show that hardware is present but under network connections I get no signal
[02:21] <OerHeks> !samba | Chaterz
[02:21] <ghostconn> i cant get my netgear wpn111 usb wireless working... I have tried installing the .inf file using windows wireless drivers and it dose show that hardware is present but under network connections I get no signal
[02:21] <Chaterz> dauntless, linux and linux
[02:21] <dauntless> Chaterz: there are a lot of ways to do this -- in very simple words say what you are trying to do… share files? share a webpage? share movies?
[02:22] <dauntless> samba is file sharing for windows, afp is for macs, nfs is sun's implementation of this
[02:23] <Chaterz> dauntless, have u got examples? cuz im a bit confused atm.
[02:23] <dauntless> again, it depends on what you are trying to do
[02:23] <Chaterz> essential share files machine to machine
[02:23] <OerHeks> dauntless, samba is not windows-only
[02:23] <Chaterz> but maybe alocate files in a cloud with authentication,im not sure.
[02:23] <dauntless> are you trying to share a single file once? or have a file server that allows users to save files to and retrieve them
[02:24] <dauntless> OerHeks, true
[02:24] <Chaterz> dauntless, the second option with users
[02:24] <OerHeks> Chaterz, use dropbox or ubuntu-one, i prefer, so the host does not need to be online.
[02:24] <dauntless> ok, are all the users behind the same firewall (as in a the same location with the same general network)?
[02:24] <Chaterz> i want the host online is awnsome.
[02:25] <Chaterz> dauntless, nop.
[02:25] <dauntless> so there are in different places, yes?
[02:25] <dauntless> *they
[02:25] <Chaterz> yes. but i talk build a server i guess
[02:26] <dauntless> ok, how many files? large files as in movies or lots of pics
[02:26] <Chaterz> pics ,and txt files mostly
[02:26] <dauntless> how many users?
[02:27] <Chaterz> private, maybe two
[02:27] <dauntless> ok
[02:27] <dauntless> so the best option is dropbox
[02:27] <Chaterz> it's dropbox like 4shared or 2shared ?
[02:27] <Programmer_> no
[02:27] <dauntless> i have an account with them that is 200GB, but you can get an account that is 2GB for free
[02:28] <dauntless> You need to set it up on each individual machine and it syncs between them
[02:28] <Chaterz> doesnt like dropbox
[02:28] <dauntless> if you want on demand downloads, then you can set it up on one box and give the other machine access to a shared folder via a web interface
[02:28] <Chaterz> i want something with server and files to configure. like ftpd
[02:28] <dauntless> then get a VPS and setup ftp
[02:29] <dauntless> or an EC2 instance
[02:29] <dauntless> or a dedicated server
[02:29] <Chaterz> i cant use apache or Mysql ?
[02:29] <XiaolinDraconis> how can i adjust the speed of the numpad mouse emulation
[02:30] <mitch|mobile> o-o
[02:31] <Chaterz> samba for share files linux to linux
[02:31] <dauntless> chaterz: get a clear idea of what you want, you cant just throw out terms like mysql and apache. You have to have an idea of what you want to do, and a plan to make it happen. setting up an ftp server or a http frontend for a few files between two people is silly
[02:31] <dauntless> just use dropbox
[02:32] <dauntless> dropbox works very well, i use it hundreds of times a day
[02:32] <Chaterz> dauntless, my upload speed is shit, maybe with a server like samba i can share files fastly betwen machines.
[02:32] <CuriousPostulate> I've got a question regarding GPG.  I have gpg-agent running, and "use-agent" in my gpg.conf file.  I don't have a gpg-agent.conf file, so I created one.  Will gpg-agent read from there or is there some other configuration file?
[02:32] <dauntless> ok, well you said they WERE not in the same building
[02:32] <CuriousPostulate> Also, is this better asked in a different channel?
[02:32] <OerHeks> XiaolinDraconis, maybe this page is up2date, i can't check, running kubuntu >>http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/stable/dtconfig-mousekeys.html
[02:33] <Chaterz> i put an example.
[02:33] <CuriousPostulate> One more thing, I can't find out where gpg-agent is started... any ideas?
[02:33] <dauntless> chaterz: http://thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/114
[02:34] <Chaterz> tnx, i know i need to read more.
[02:34] <ariane5> hi :) where i find freenode list room ?
[02:34] <mspencer> Where is a good place to ask Ubuntu developers for an opinion on how a new feature/bug fix should work?
[02:35] <OerHeks> !alis | ariane5
[02:35] <XiaolinDraconis> OerHeks, thanks for looking, but those instructions dont apply to the keyboard settings in 12.04
[02:35] <Chaterz> dauntless, using a virtual machine ssh works fine ?
[02:35] <Chaterz> or have a difficult ?
[02:36] <lix> Hi. I have an issue with tar. Maybe somebody can help? - Is it possible that wildcard does not work in combination of "-C" option?
[02:36] <dauntless> chaterz: a vm is the same thing, it depends on your network settings and how they are setup… bridged mode should be fine
[02:36] <lix> (e.g. tar -C ~/directory test.tar.gz *.sql)
[02:36] <MonolithImmortal> ohai
[02:37] <Chaterz> vm,same building , ssh should work ?
[02:37] <lix> correction: (e.g. tar -C ~/directory -cvzf test.tar.gz *.sql)
[02:37] <MonolithImmortal> wuts goin on in here?
[02:37] <Chaterz> what bridged mode are u talking ?
[02:38] <kimphill_> I've just upgraded to 12.10 and am looking at an amazon button going wth
[02:38] <Chaterz> sorry if im disturbing. i'll move to other chan.
[02:38] <OerHeks> lix, try tar -cvzf test.tar.gz ~/directory/*.sql
[02:39] <Guest3221> question: i have a 13" 2009 macbook with 2gb ram, 2.26 ghz intel core 2 duo.  i want to install ubuntu, but am worried my computer won't handle it well. OSX currently runs semi-decently, with slow loading times and occasional lag.  do you think ubuntu will be better, the same, or worse?
[02:39] <timothyja> Guest3221 hi
[02:39] <lix> OerHeks: thanks. - yes that works but then the directory is included in the archive, which I want to avoid...
[02:39] <kimphill_> Guest3221, better.  I'm running it on my 5 year old macbook pro - still decent speed (and I'm picky)
[02:39] <Cong> something is wrong with my ubuntu. dialog boxes don't appear centered. it's like their parent window is the active one.
[02:39] <MonolithImmortal> Guest3221, If you want to install Ubuntu, I'd recommend installing an LTS
[02:40] <lix> OerHeks: I need it for a backup script and dont want the directories included into the tar archive, but only the files (therefore wildcard)
[02:40] <MonolithImmortal> 12.10 is more resourse hungery than 12.04
[02:40] <MonolithImmortal> and less stable
[02:40] <mysticalzero> hey guys. just a question about the workings of dnsmasq. i've read about dnsmasq being used a dns cache and listens on the loopback adapter address. the loopback adapter is then used by the resolver. the real dns lookup is performed by dnsmasq by looking the actual dns server address in /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf. what's puzzling to me is the contents of my conf file is empty but resolving still works. if it's empty then
[02:40] <mysticalzero> how does dnsmasq know the address of the dns servers?
[02:40] <OerHeks> lix, oke, the cd /to/the/directory/ first, then tar  -cvzf /path/to/store/the/tar/test.tar.gz *.sql
[02:40] <lix> OerHeks: sure. I was thinking of that. It's just not that elegant :)
[02:41] <Guest3221> got it, thanks
[02:41] <MonolithImmortal> So, any of you watch My Little Pony?
[02:41] <InFlames> Hello, I seem to have messed up my display drivers, can someone help? nvidia 9300 GE, ubuntu 12.10
[02:41] <lix> OerHeks: Thanks
[02:41] <InFlames> i installed x-swat's nvidia-current-updates
[02:42] <lix> OerHeks: Do you think the "issue" is worth a bug report? Cause actually I think tar should be able to handle that ...
[02:42] <fellayaboy> his it possible to resume an ftp fownload
[02:42] <fellayaboy> from the terminal
[02:42] <kimphill_> fellayaboy, wget -c (for 'continue')
[02:42] <lix> fellaboy: wget can handle a resume
[02:43] <lix> fellaboy: as kimphill just said
[02:43] <OerHeks> lix check man tar ( i didn't find any solution for that)
[02:44] <lix> OerHeks: I did. the option -C works fine using either ./ or the full filename. - But (aparently) no wildcards in combination with the option "-C"
[02:45] <stoneguy> whois stoneguy
[02:46] <Cong> it's you silly
[02:46] <InFlames> heh
[02:46] <lix> OerHeks: I just like to keep my shell-scripts as short/elegant as possible. So I am wondering if its worth a bug report...
[02:46] <se23> i need a help...
[02:46] <OerHeks> lix  tar -cvzf test.tar.gz -C ~/directory/ *.sql  perhaps ?
[02:46] <lix> se23: shoot
[02:46] <dauntless> lix: not sure if this is helpful http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/unix3/upt/ch38_10.htm what version of tar is it?
[02:47] <lix> OerHeks: checked that as well.... - without success
[02:47] <lix> dauntless: thanks! will check that
[02:47] <se23> i need some help...
[02:47] <dauntless> lix: seems like non GNU version is not fond of *
[02:47] <lix> dauntless: indeed
[02:48] <OerHeks> !ask | se23
[02:48] <lix> se23: what's your issue?
[02:48] <Cong> he's trying to help you, lix
[02:48] <se23> can i upgrade from natty (10.04) directly to qq (12.10) ?
[02:48] <OerHeks> se24 yes
[02:48] <PoolShark_> probably
[02:49] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[02:49] <Jordan_U> se23: No, you need to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, then to 12.10.
[02:49] <lix> se23: sure. that should work
[02:49] <PoolShark_> do-release-upgrade
[02:49] <zykotick9> se23: 10.04 is lucid BTW
[02:49] <se23> sorry
[02:50] <InFlames> anyone know why after updating my nvidia drivers to x-swat's my my second monitor is dead and my screen has nothing but a background and mouse cursor?
[02:50] <dauntless> lix: try quoting the '*.sql'
[02:50] <lix> dauntless: thanks. - your article explains it.
[02:50] <Spr1ng> what is x-swat?
[02:50] <InFlames> ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[02:51] <CuriousPostulate> I've got a question regarding GPG.  I have gpg-agent running, and "use-agent" in my gpg.conf file.  I don't have a gpg-agent.conf file, so I created one.  Will gpg-agent read from there or is there some other configuration file? One more thing, I can't find out where gpg-agent is started (I'm running Ubuntu 12.10) ... any ideas?
[02:51] <Spr1ng> oh sorry, no clue
[02:51] <InFlames> :/
[02:51] <dauntless> lix: assuming you have GNU version of tar
[02:51] <InFlames> i'm dead in the water over here
[02:51] <dauntless> lix: np
[02:51] <lix> dauntless: :) sure. anything else than GNU is not worth to be considered....
[02:52] <lonewulf> Hey will anyone sign my petition  http://www.change.org/petitions/pc-makers-to-offer-foss-operating-systems-like-unix-linux-etc
[02:53] <PoolShark_> tons of pc makers already offer FOSS operating systems
[02:53] <khad76> and your link doesn't work
[02:53] <lonewulf> also pass it on to anyone that you can think of, that is if you like FOSS.
[02:53] <Magiobiwan> lonewulf, some do. It depends on the manufacturer
[02:53] <OerHeks> Lonewulf wrong room, please don't advertise here.
[02:53] <OerHeks> or take polls.
[02:54] <CuriousPostulate> What's a good amount of time to wait before asking a question again in a busy channel like this?
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> CuriousPostulate, I'd say about 5 minutes if nobody responded
[02:55] <PoolShark_> I dunno..... ask again in a little bit
[02:55] <PoolShark_> :p
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> If someone DID, I'd say 15
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> Since they might be looking it up
[02:56] <blackshirt> hello
[02:56] <CuriousPostulate> Magiobiwan, thanks
[02:56] <xubuntu_user> Hello, I installed Xubuntu, but it needs the USB stick to boot.  Is there a way to change it so it boots from the hard drive instead?
[02:56] <blackshirt> curiouspostulate, what is your problems?
[02:57] <mspencer> Where is a good place to ask Ubuntu developers for an opinion on how a new feature/bug fix should work?
[02:57] <lonewulf> PoolShark: I do not mean where you have to ask and only on certain PC's.
[02:57] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, i think you should change grub config to load kernel from disk
[02:57] <xubuntu_user> blackshirt, how do I do that?
[02:58] <PoolShark_> lonewulf: I am not sure I understand your meaning.
[02:58] <OerHeks> mspencer, try #ubuntu-devel
[02:58] <blackshirt> press e on grub menu when you booy
[02:58] <blackshirt> booting
[02:58] <CuriousPostulate> blackshirt, I'm wondering how to go about reducing the timeout for gpg-agent, and I'm not really sure where gpg-agent is starting.  Also, I didn't have a gpg-agent.conf file in ~/.gnupg and I don't know if one I make will be used by default
[02:58] <xubuntu_user> there is no grub menu
[02:58] <InFlames> anyone know how to fix my nvidia driver issues?
[02:58] <xubuntu_user> it usually shows when I have it load from the hard drive
[02:58] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, press shift at boot
[02:58] <xubuntu_user> but from the USB stick, I don't see a grub menu
[02:58] <xubuntu_user> ok
[02:59] <mspencer> OerHeks: Thank you, I wasn't sure if that was what #ubuntu-devel was for.
[02:59] <xubuntu_user> is it easy after that?
[02:59] <lonewulf> PoolShark: I contacted Dell and HP both said that they only have one - two computers that they can offer linux on.
[02:59] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, i dont think so :)
[02:59] <xubuntu_user> lol
[02:59] <blackshirt> you should pass your root option to kernel to load from
[03:00] <xubuntu_user> I installed it, and it said 60GB
[03:00] <xubuntu_user> I don't understand why it installed it so I needed the USB stick
[03:00] <xubuntu_user> can you tell me the directions to change it after I press shift?
[03:00] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, are you installed it from usb stick ?
[03:00] <Magiobiwan> lonewulf, you could just as easily buy the PC with Windows, burn a Linux CD/DVD, then nuke Windos
[03:01] <xubuntu_user> yes, but it said available diskspace 60gb
[03:01] <xubuntu_user> the usb stick is only 8gb
[03:01] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, usually you press e to edit grub menu interactively, and ctrl+x to exit and continues the boot process
[03:02] <xubuntu_user> is that all or should you walk me through it?
[03:02] <xubuntu_user> I can come back on my netbook
[03:03] <lonewulf> Maglobiwan: This is true but would it not be nicer to already have a computer with it already installed? I am not meaning replace Windows as the default option just when you buy a new PC offer the choice to get one with FOSS
[03:03] <xubuntu_user> I'll see if the menu appears
[03:03] <xubuntu_user> brb
[03:03] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, just see it and tell me what is your root on linux stanzas on grub menu line
[03:03] <Magiobiwan> lonewulf, well, it's up to the company
[03:05] <lonewulf> Magiobliwan: I know and aside from system76 I cannot think of very many that allow this choice.
[03:07] <lunaphyte> hi.  when a new windows opens on the desktop [a program, folder, etc], it's always stuck in one of the corners.  how can i change that, so it's in the middle of the screen?
[03:07] <lunaphyte> *window
[03:07] <InFlames> anyone have an idea how to fix my nvidia driver issues?
[03:08] <gskellik> all flash videos in google chrome go at like 2x speed
[03:08] <gskellik> and firefox they go about 1/2 or maybe 3/4 speed
[03:08] <gskellik> clearly not normal though
[03:08] <gskellik> anyone have an idea?
[03:09] <Cong> lunaphyte, if you're using compiz you need only to set the window placement parament to center
[03:09] <gskellik> I'm on 12.04
[03:11] <lunaphyte> Cong: thanks for the clue, i'll have a look
[03:11] <gskellik> anyone?
[03:12] <InFlames> do you guys all run open source drivers or run ati video cards or what?
[03:13] <rypervenche> InFlames: I use nvidia proprietary drivers.
[03:13] <Cong> lunaphyte, /apps/compiz/plugins/place/screen0/options/mode, set it to 2. you need gconf-editor.
[03:13] <blackshirt> inflames, maybe someone here has a same issue like you
[03:13] <gskellik> this is so weird. youtube, dropbox videos, everything
[03:13] <khad76> i've been using the beta proprietary and they've been fine
[03:13] <gskellik> its not just flash it seems to also be HTML5 .mp4 files
[03:13] <Cong> lunaphyte, not that's 1 not 2
[03:14] <gskellik> wait its JWplayer im not sure if thats flash or HTML5
[03:14] <gskellik> in any case all my videos are playing at 2x speed.
[03:15] <gskellik> ?
[03:15] <InFlames> blackshirt: i'd be amazed if i was the only one, but by the fact i've asked 3 times in an hour, no one has responded, maybe
[03:15] <InFlames> what nvidia driver and ubuntu version are you guys running?
[03:15] <gskellik> I'm using a special driver because I have two graphics cards in my laptop
[03:16] <InFlames> i am having trouble with 12.10 and 304.64, 310.34, and 304.51
[03:16] <InFlames> gskellik: i just don't get how it seems like this was working in 12.04, but in 12.10 i'm screwed, everything i try
[03:16] <InFlames> been without a machine for 24 hours now
[03:16] <gskellik> does anybody have any hints to my video problem? The sound also seems to be messed up.
[03:16] <rypervenche> InFlames: So downgrade then.
[03:16] <blackshirt> inflames, riphervence has told you, he was using nvidia
[03:17] <anastasya> InFlames, I downgraded because of that exact issue
[03:17] <InFlames> hmm, ok, i guess i will face the music
[03:17] <InFlames> guess it's not the end of the world, and they i don't have to block amazon lenses :/
[03:17] <anastasya> InFlames, you may try 304.43 I had some luck with that one
[03:17] <InFlames> then*
[03:17] <InFlames> hmm, that's an idea
[03:17] <rypervenche> InFlames: Isn't 310 beta?
[03:18] <InFlames> rypervenche: yes, but after everything i thought i'd try it
[03:18] <gskellik> upgrading to 12.10 now
[03:18] <gskellik> hopefully this will fix
[03:18] <InFlames> back to the drawing board i suppose
[03:18] <lonewulf> gskellik: What is the problem?
[03:18] <anastasya> rypervenche, 310 is experimental. InFlames you might also pop into #nvidia they were a big help for me
[03:18] <rypervenche> InFlames: Go back to the one that was working for you. I can't imagine you NEED the latest version for anything in particular.
[03:18] <gskellik> LoneWlf, flash video (and I think HTML5 also) goes twice as fast as its supposed to
[03:19] <gskellik> and the sound is a weird kind of static
[03:19] <InFlames> rypervenche: 12.04 was actually running pretty slow and i had issues with some stuff, but it was bareable
[03:19] <InFlames> anastasya: i will try there before i give up
[03:19] <InFlames> thank you guys
[03:19] <anastasya> InFlames, again the best results I got were from 304.43
[03:20] <ebravick> quit
[03:20] <lonewulf> gskellik: Is this in opera or firefox or chrome?
[03:20] <InFlames> hmm, i don't know if i tried anything that "old"
[03:20] <InFlames> perhaps i will
[03:20] <gskellik> lonewulf chrome. On firefox it has other speed problems
[03:20] <walterwoj> All my windows seem to run off the bottom of the screen so the buttons on the bottom are inaccessible.  Anyone else experience this?  Any know fixes so linux will properly size the windows?
[03:20] <gskellik> it will play for a sec then freeze, even if i let it buffer all the way
[03:20] <rypervenche> InFlames: I'm using 295.71
[03:20] <gskellik> it freezes for a moment every second or two
[03:21] <gskellik> I haven't tried opera yet
[03:21] <anastasya> InFlames, good luck :-)
[03:21] <InFlames> i just don't get how nvidia puts my card listed as supported yet, it's not…hmmm
[03:21] <InFlames> heh
[03:21] <InFlames> thanks guys
[03:21] <stoneguy> msg nickserv set email stoneguy3@gmail.com
[03:21] <lix> InFlames: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbovJbKALzA
[03:22] <lonewulf> gskellik: It might be in the flash setting. I am downloading flash player for chrome give me a few minutes and I will see if I can help.
[03:22] <InFlames> stoneguy: you need / in front of that
[03:22] <lix> stoneguy: ;)
[03:22] <InFlames> lix: my sentiments exactly
[03:22] <lix> InFlames: indeed! :-D
[03:23] <InFlames> i love the awkward part right after where he seems to look as though maybe he shouldn't have done that, lol
[03:23] <Cong> that's one more email to spam. ;)
[03:23] <InFlames> rofl
[03:23] <stoneguy> Been too long since using IRC...
[03:23] <lix> InFlames: Sure. - I just like Linux being that straight forward!
[03:23] <lonewulf> gskeillik: I have found that my flash in firefox has minor hickups.
[03:24] <VitaoDoidao> it
[03:24] <se23> lonewulf: what's that?
[03:24] <Guest3221> would i use a CDR or a CD ROM to install ubuntu, or does it not matter
[03:24] <walterwoj> ok, I think it is because my display is set wrong but it does not give me the size i need 1266x768  how would I fix that?
[03:24] <InFlames> lix: true, i am glad he said it, it needed to be said
[03:24] <lix> InFlames: exactly
[03:25] <stoneguy> Cong: That's ok, it's one of my "not for useful purposes" addrs anyway
[03:25] <CuriousPostulate> I've got a question regarding GPG.  I have gpg-agent running, and "use-agent" in my gpg.conf file.  I don't have a gpg-agent.conf file, so I created one.  Will gpg-agent read from there or is there some other configuration file? One more thing, I can't find out where gpg-agent is started (I'm running Ubuntu 12.10) ... any ideas?
[03:25] <lonewulf> se23: Sometimes the audio will keep going and the video stops working.
[03:25] <se23> i havent found the bug, uses 16.0.2 thanks
[03:26] <rypervenche> Guest3221: Doesn't matter.
[03:26] <lonewulf> Guest3221: the CDR is what you burn the rom is what you use to burn it. A cd will work just fine. You could also use pendrivelinux to make a bootable USB.
[03:27] <xubuntu_user> Hi, I installed xubuntu on my computer, but it won't boot up unless I use a USB stick.  How do I change this and it won't show a grub list even if I press shift when it boots up.
[03:27] <Cong> xubuntu_user, did you install it from usb?
[03:27] <CuriousPostulate> My gpg-agent doesn't seem to forget the key after any amount of time.  Any way to fix this?
[03:28] <Cong> you didn't change the boot load install position
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> yes, but it showed 60gb for available space, my usb stick is ony 8 gb
[03:28] <Cong> loader
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> it never asked me to change it
[03:28] <Cong> you overlooked it
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> how do I change it?
[03:28] <Cong> i don't know
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> where is it?
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> when it installs it only shows a few steps
[03:28] <lonewulf> xubuntu_user: I have minimal experience with xfce but you might be missing the grub loader there is ways to install from a live distro.
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> not much to overlook
[03:29] <xubuntu_user> lonewolf, I see what you are saying
[03:30] <lonewulf> xubuntu_user: you might try googeling the procedure to install the grub from a live disc. I had to do this once but I cannnot remember the procedure right now.
[03:30] <lix> CuriousPostulate: I guess that is done in ~.gnupg/gpg.conf
[03:30] <lix> CuriousPostulate: Are you using a card reader btw?
[03:30] <xubuntu_user> lonewolf, does it erase the current installation or just add to it?
[03:31] <xubuntu_user> lix, are you talking to me?
[03:31] <lix> xubuntu_user: nope
[03:32] <vernon> I had an issue with a past install that I need to work out. I have a Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 Card. I installed the drivers, rebooted (to get out of the horrid nouveau drivers), and all I saw was a low res desktop without the unity sidebar. I am running at 1080p if that helps ;)
[03:32] <lonewulf> xubuntu_user: It will leave the current install alone provided that you follow the instructions.
[03:33] <lunaphyte> Cong: thanks, i found the setting, but it doesn't seem to have worked.
[03:33] <xubuntu_user> lonewolf, do you think that "grand unified bootloader" might solve this issue?
[03:33] <CuriousPostulate> lix, I didn't see it in gpg.conf, I only saw "use-agent".  What do you mean card reader?
[03:33] <Cong> lunaphyte, are you running compiz?
[03:34] <lonewulf> vernon: what driver did you select, there is one that is experimental.
[03:34] <lunaphyte> Cong: i think i am, how can i confirm?
[03:34] <vernon> I cannot remember. I just want one that works correctly...
[03:34] <lix> CuriousPostulate: I was asking, because I remember having had troubles with gpg-agent when I was using my FSF card with a card reader. And there is a good manual for that by Mathias Kirschner (FSFE).
[03:34] <lonewulf> xubuntu-user: yes unless xubuntu uses a different loader, if it does then I would go with that.
[03:35] <vernon> I have already switched distros, but I want some help, so that I can go back...
[03:35] <jaysonr> vernon: that's a known bug. see this on askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215016/12-10-unity-doesnt-appear-when-using-nvidia-drivers
[03:35] <jaysonr> vernon: basically linux-headers is being removed by the installer, and the nvidia driver can't compile properly
[03:35] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I'm not using a card reader
[03:35] <jaysonr> vernon: if you can get to a terminal (or a VT), this will fix your issue: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic & sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current & sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:36] <vernon> jaysonr: Thats pretty lame if you ask me.. But this should work ;)
[03:36] <lonewulf> vernon: you may need to run the x11config command from a terminal to set up xorg to run.
[03:36] <jaysonr> vernon: personally, I'm running nvidia-experimental-310 from proposed, and it's working great for me.
[03:36] <lix> CuriousPostulate: ok. so what's your question? (dunno if I can help...)
[03:36] <vernon> jaysonr: For the record, no other distros have given me hell with my nvidia card...
[03:37] <lonewulf> vernon: jaysonr, is correct this was the command that I was going to suggest.
[03:37] <jaysonr> vernon: I can't speak to that, I've had better results with less hassle with Ubuntu in the past, but this is an odd bug that wasn't expected.
[03:37] <CuriousPostulate> lix, it looks like gpg-agent isn't forgetting my passphrase.  How can I set a timeout?  I've heard about editing gpg-agent.conf, but if one doesn't already exist, I don't know if it'll be looked at.. maybe some strange settings with gpg-agent
[03:37] <lix> CuriousPostulate: I thought the timeout can be set in gpg.conf. - I dont even have a gpg-agent.conf file ...
[03:38] <lix> CuriousPostulate: .... let me get the info for you quickly.
[03:39] <CuriousPostulate> lix: Thanks! I didn't see anything like that in gpg.conf.. maybe there's no default specified there?
[03:40] <timwis> Hey guys, just made the switch from win7 to ubuntu for the first time. Any idea why my graphics are getting distorted sometimes? http://i.imgur.com/pqtIL.png (nvidia geforce gtx 460 se)
[03:40] <blackness> timwis, did you install the nvidia drivers?
[03:41] <timwis> blackness: I went to software sources > additional drivers and selected the NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
[03:41] <timwis> was trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but System > Administration must have been moved
[03:42] <lonewulf> timwis: there is the option to scan for additional hardware drivers then install the one that is not a postrelease version.
[03:42] <blackness> but did you apt-get install nvidia-current ?
[03:42] <maslo2> hi guys, could anyone help me out please it would be very appreciated, I own a VPS(Virtual private server) running ubuntu and I wanna use it as a SSH tunnel, I know how to do so but I wanna make a user that has no rights to do anything else other than log in...so I'm pretty much asking how to limit an account to be able to do NOTHING
[03:42] <Cong> lunaphyte, egrep compiz
[03:42] <timwis> blackness: No, I didn't. Should I enter that in terminal?
[03:43] <lix> CuriousPostulate: try e.g. "default-cache-ttl 1800" in ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf
[03:43] <blackness> i need to check if your card is support by the current, if not you might have to download a older package...
[03:43] <timwis> lonewulf: 'Additional Drivers' doesn't have any scan button
[03:43] <timwis> thanks blackness
[03:43] <lunaphyte> Cong: sorry?
[03:43] <rypervenche> maslo2: You want to create a jailed environment.
[03:44] <Cong> lunaphyte, oh, pgrep compiz
[03:44] <someprimetime> is there some kind of a plugin for screen that will display like a tree list of all myfiles?
[03:44] <maslo2> how would I do that rypervenche?
[03:44] <maslo2> that username is somewhat gonna be public(friends only)
[03:44] <lunaphyte> Cong: ah, gotcha.  pid 1977
[03:44] <lonewulf> timwis: if you are running 12.04 you can click on the unity button or hit the windows button then go to applications it will be under hardware drivers
[03:44] <blackness> timwis, what ive found, you can safely do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:45] <blackness> as the 460 is under that package.
[03:45] <CuriousPostulate> lix: How should I restart gpg-agent?  How can I be sure that gpg-agent.conf is read, since I didn't have the file by default?
[03:45] <lonewulf> timwis: it runs by itself.
[03:45] <timwis> blackness: "nvidia-current is already the newest version"
[03:45] <rypervenche> maslo2: It's past my bedtime, but someone here can help you, or you can find it by Googling. You at least know what it is you need to know.^^
[03:46] <lix> CuriousPostulate: probably/logically yes
[03:46] <blackness> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140760/ubuntu-12-04-nvidia-gtx-460-video-card-installation follow the blacklist section of this guide timwis
[03:46] <maslo2> yeah thanks a lot I'm gonna look around for it, I just wanna make sure it'S safe and that I don'T get owned/betrayed by a friend
[03:46] <Cong> lunaphyte, you have compiz running. if you set the key right you should be getting centered windows poping up all over the center.
[03:46] <lix> CuriousPostulate: ... am sitll looking for the good article for you.
[03:46] <lonewulf> timwis: blackness is right the apt-get command will work.
[03:46] <CuriousPostulate> lix: thank you!
[03:46] <blackness> except dont delete nvidia-current..leave that install. just edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[03:46] <Dogget> Trying to install ATI drivers for ubuntu 12.10 not sure which one. Any help welcome
[03:46] <lix> CuriousPostulate: maybe you wanna read this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/378
[03:46] <blackness> then reboot.
[03:47] <Dogget> I am using an ATI 7850 card
[03:47] <blackness> s/install/installed
[03:47] <ziggyfish_> I am having trouble install ubuntu on a hp laptop, it only allows me to install it on one hard drive when fdisk tells me there are 3 drives
[03:47] <ziggyfish_> is there some sort of driver I need to install?
[03:47] <timwis> compiling a new kernel :O
[03:47] <lonewulf> Dogget: use the sudo apt-get install ati current
[03:47] <CuriousPostulate> lix: Thanks! I'm reading it now, give me a bit...
[03:48] <ziggyfish_> timwis, nice
[03:48] <lunaphyte> Cong: i believe i have it set right.  it was labelled as you described - 1 = center
[03:48] <lunaphyte> Cong: is there a shell command i can use to print settings?
[03:48] <lix> CuriousPostulate: Yes. Looks like that is the way. Here on this Gentoo site it's the same setting: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml
[03:48] <blackness> timwis, there also should be a checkbox under hardware drivers that allows you to select the nvidia package aswell. make sure you have this checked
[03:48] <Dogget> Will this work fine Lonewulf? I have tried a few things but things messed up, unity bar not showing back, screen all blank etc
[03:49] <lix> CuriousPostulate: looks like it is done with ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf
[03:49] <Dogget> @Lonewulf: It will install the latest ATI drivers right?
[03:49] <lonewulf> gskellik: I ran a video on youtube with chrome and it played fine for me.
[03:50] <gskellik> LoneWlf, yeah I think its a specific problem
[03:50] <timwis> blackness, I modified the blacklist.conf file, about to reboot. do i need to find that checkbox first?
[03:50] <gskellik> I just updated adobe-flashplayer
[03:50] <superfake123> how can I view startup services like apache2 etc?
[03:50] <blackness> yes, check it before you reboot.
[03:50] <gskellik> it sounds like a helicopter when I watch a video... lol
[03:50] <lonewulf> Dogget: I believe it will I have just used the additional hardware drivers application.
[03:51] <lix> CuriousPostulate: This article says: "gpg-agent remembers your passphrase for a limited time. You may let it forget
[03:51] <lix> your passphrase by stopping/restarting it."
[03:51] <lix> CuriousPostulate: https://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/2011-June/013896.html
[03:52] <xubuntu_user> anyone know how to install grub for xubuntu?
[03:52] <timwis> blackness, did you by any chance mean *software* sources? I don't see hardware sources anywhere :/ sorry if I'm a newb here
[03:52] <Dogget> @Lonewulf: I am getting this http://pastebin.com/16m9LkMf
[03:52] <xubuntu_user> I tried bootloader, I tried sudo install commands in terminal
[03:52] <blackness> its hardware drivers
[03:52] <CuriousPostulate> lix: woah... I killed gpg-agent but I managed to decrypt something without my passphase anyways... maybe I have two key agents?
[03:52] <blackness> not sources
[03:52] <lonewulf> gskellik: When I lloked into the flashplayer settings there was no option to adjust the playback speed.
[03:52] <blackness> let me see if i can find the binary for it
[03:52] <gskellik> yeah lonewulf its pretty limited
[03:53] <gskellik> its just microphone/video camera
[03:53] <gskellik> and thats about it
[03:53] <lix> CuriousPostulate: that is scary indeed!
[03:53] <lonewulf> gskellik: Yeah.
[03:53] <phillijw_> Anyone use garmintools?
[03:54] <blackness> i cant find it..
[03:55] <timwis> blackness, this is the closest i've found: http://i.imgur.com/EiFLc.png
[03:55] <blackness> yes, thats it.
[03:55] <blackness> what does nvidia-settings say?
[03:55] <iGoogle> does syncdaemon.conf effect with ubuntuone? i need proxy for ubuntuone, urgent now。
[03:55] <blackness> reboot, then load that, sorry.
[03:55] <blackness> i'm tired :/
[03:55] <iGoogle> anyone use proxy for ubuntuone?
[03:56] <CuriousPostulate> lix: And I see that I /do/ have a passphrase, because when I run gpg --armor --no-use-agent --decrypt file.asc, it asks for my passphrase...
[03:56] <timwis> lol okay so I am good to reboot then
[03:56] <timwis> brb
[03:57] <lonewulf> timwis: If you are done with installing grub give it a shot you should be good, then hop back on and let me know if I helped.
[03:57] <lix> CuriousPostulate: It looks as if you need pinentry
[03:57] <iGoogle> UbuntuOne: need proxy, any idea?
[03:57] <CuriousPostulate> lix: Maybe gnome keyring.. woah.  I killed gnome-keyring and that's what was storing it!
[03:58] <Dogget> Lonewulf: This is what I am getting mate: http://pastebin.com/16m9LkMf
[03:58] <phillijw_> configure: error: cannot build garmintools without libusb <--- I have libusb1.0 installed. What's the deal?
[03:58] <lix> CuriousPostulate: oh! interesting!
[03:59] <Guest99975> list
[03:59] <lix> CuriousPostulate: yes, that must be it. (I dont use gnome keyring). can you set a timeout there?
[03:59] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I'm going to find out a way to disable gnome-keyring.  It might be because of using a non-standard window manager (xmonad! woo!) that some things aren't set right.  I'll check for some settings
[04:00] <lix> CuriousPostulate: roger
[04:00] <Guest99975> dir
[04:00] <lix> Guest99975: this is not m$-dos ;)
[04:01] <lix> Guest99975: try "ls"
[04:01] <Guest99975> sorry... i am new in IRC..
[04:01] <lix> Guest99975: no worries :)
[04:01] <Guest99975> tks
[04:01] <lix> Guest99975: in IRC commands are done with a slash "/"
[04:02] <Guest99975> tks again
[04:02] <lix> like "/whois Guest99975"
[04:02] <lonewulf> Dogget: you could always try the additional drivers
[04:02] <lix> or "/join #ubuntu"
[04:02] <worm> /help will show you the help info of the IRC.
[04:02] <lix> exactly
[04:03] <Guest99975> tks worm
[04:03] <Dogget> I just want to do this the right way, Having re-installed 12.10 three times now I am getting tired.
[04:04] <iGoogle> UbuntuOne: need proxy, any idea?
[04:04] <lonewulf> Dogget: I understand I have really only used the additional hardware option. It has worked with my system. I have a ati/raedon 6900
[04:04] <jael> hey guys, just acquired a Dell PowerEdge 1850 server, just wondering whether the current release of Ubuntu Server will work on it? It's not listed as a supported server, but has anyone seen an instance in which it worked?
[04:05] <lunaphyte> jael: i'd imagine it would work just fine.
[04:06] <lix> jael: check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:07] <Cong> lunaphyte, install CCSM from the software centre. It will make turning on plugins for compiz a snap. That's the theory anyway.
[04:07] <lunaphyte> Cong: ok
[04:07] <jael> lix, i checked it out earlier, and it's not listed.. but i guess it wont hurt to try. the machine should be here shortly...
[04:08] <lunaphyte> jael: how much memory>
[04:08] <lix> jael: try the live CD first to find out, maybe
[04:09] <lix> jael: s/live CD/live CD or memorystick/
[04:10] <jael> lunaphyte not sure yet. my buddies datacenter was clearing out unused servers and let me grab one for free.. so until it gets here, im not really sure about specs.. but its anywhere between 2gb to 12gb ram
[04:10] <jael> just hope i get lucky ;)
[04:10] <lonewulf> Dogget: You can try this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-install-ati-amd-catalyst-122.html
[04:11] <jael> generic specs are here: http://www.dell.com/downloads/ap/topics/servers/1850_specs.pdf
[04:11] <lix> jael: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1892534
[04:12] <Dogget> Lonewulf: Thanks for the link but alas it's not for 12.10. I had no problems with the drivers on 12.04 by the way
[04:12] <lunaphyte> jael: well, hopefully it's 64 bit
[04:12] <Dogget> I feel 12.10 is really laggy, taking seconds to open a window and all while on 12.04 it was straight.
[04:12] <lonewulf> Dogget: Which version?
[04:12] <phillijw_> Does a higher DPI make my text smaller or larger? I would think smaller?
[04:12] <lix> jael: just looked over the pdf. I don't see a problem why Ubuntu shouldn't work on this machine...
[04:13] <Dogget> I am currently running 12.10 but everything is so slow
[04:13] <phillijw_> Dogget: its probably your video drivers or something. Did you create an xorg.conf?
[04:13] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I found one workaround, but it's really messy and was from 2009.  I'm googling more
[04:13] <Dogget> I haven't done anything yet after the third reinstall
[04:13] <jael> lix, thanks. that's all i needed to hear!
[04:14] <lonewulf> Dogget: I am sorry I misunderstood, I usually just stick with the 32bit
[04:14] <jael> lunaphyte, definitely 64bit
[04:14] <lix> CuriousPostulate: ouch. - let me know as I know the developer of gnupg personally.
[04:14] <Dogget> :-( damn
[04:14] <Dogget> in 12.04 64 bits it was all fine as well
[04:15] <Dogget> 12.10 runs like a turtle!
[04:15] <lonewulf> Dogget: I hate to say this but my graphics run just fine in 12.04 i386
[04:15] <Dogget> Same for me in 12.04 I am talking about 12.10 Lone :-)
[04:16] <lix> Dogget: what does "top" say?
[04:16] <Cong> what are the major difference of 12.04 and 12.10?
[04:16] <Dogget> Sorry Lix which "top"?
[04:16] <lix> Dogget: in the terminal
[04:17] <lix> Dogget: "top" tells you what process uses how much CPU, memory etc.
[04:17] <lix> Dogget: so you might find out where the entropy goes ....
[04:17] <Dogget> Sure what do you need to know? :-)
[04:18] <Dogget> compiz, then xorg are at the top
[04:18] <lix> Dogget: well, try to sort top either by CPU or mem, and you'll see
[04:18] <lix> Dogget: oh! - I see
[04:18] <lonewulf> Dogget: I did not have an issue in 12.10 I reinstalled 12.04 for a different reason.
[04:18] <lix> Dogget: are you on unity 3D?
[04:18] <Dogget> Yes
[04:18] <Dogget> It's a hoag really
[04:18] <lix> Dogget: try to desactivate the effects
[04:18] <Dogget> 12.04 was fine all the way
[04:19] <Cong> what ever you do, do not type metacity --replace into a terminal
[04:19] <lonewulf> dogget: try running in 2d that sometimes helps you get a lot of the same looks.
[04:19] <lix> Dogget: Alt+F2 ccsm
[04:20] <Dogget> I mean it's hard to swallow that I have to do that when I have a 6 cores machines and 16 gg of ram :-(
[04:20] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I found a bug report from april of this year.  It doesn't appear that this has been fixed, but I'm not sure, as I don't even know where the configuration would be... I'm not sure if I just haven't found it or it's not there.    Wait.. I found a setting in "Seahorse" with gconf-editor regarding the cache... "cache_method" and "cache_ttl" ..ttl is set to 300 (I'm assuming seconds), and it definitely is not acting like that.
[04:20] <CuriousPostulate>  I'm going to restart and check this...
[04:20] <Dogget> But I will do as you experts suggest :-)
[04:20] <lix> Dogget: Sure. But your issue seems to be with the graphics....
[04:20] <Dogget> compiz yes
[04:21] <lonewulf> yes compiz
[04:22] <lix> Dogget: yes. - try Alt+F2 ccsm
[04:22] <CuriousPostulate> lix: AH! I found something in "gsettings": org.gnome.crypto.cache gpg-cache-method.  it's "session" which is why I think it's storing it for the whole x session.  I'm going to change it to idle and see if that works
[04:23] <lix> CuriousPostulate: interesting. - yes this might do it
[04:24] <lonewulf> Hey has anyone tried ubuntustudio
[04:24] <lix> lonewulf: long time ago, yes
[04:25] <Dogget> doing that does nothing...:-(
[04:25] <lonewulf> lix: Was it as a professional.
[04:25] <CuriousPostulate> lix: gpg is giving me errors about where it's looking for the gnome-keyring passphrase... I shall return after I restart.
[04:25] <Dogget> I think I better just go back to 12.04 at once
[04:26] <lix> lonewulf: that was in the very beginning. we were using it for a students media server (internet radio) for an arts school. - was quite good I have to say
[04:26] <dwarder> is there a command line escaper?
[04:26] <lix> CuriousPostulate: roger
[04:26] <dwarder> i.e. i need to escape a long line and insert it into command line
[04:26] <lix> lonewulf: would have to check it out again, as this was 8 years ago...
[04:27] <Cong> dwarder, input escape character?
[04:27] <lix> lonewulf: actually there was an interesting project in ghana for a radio station that was using ubuntustudio, I remember
[04:27] <lonewulf> lix: I was wondering whether or not it would be a good os for everyday use?
[04:27] <lix> lonewulf: this certainly depends on what you work. :)
[04:29] <lix> lonewulf: meaning: are you into media production?
[04:29] <lix> lonewulf: I rememeber we were using jokosher to produce podcasts ans such that time...
[04:30] <lonewulf> lix: I dabble a little.
[04:30] <lix> lonewulf: I'd say it is definately worth a try
[04:31] <dwarder> Cong: yes
[04:31] <phillijw_> is there a way I can get unity to stop trying to sell me crap in the search menu?
[04:31] <lonewulf> lix: Cool I was trying to decide whether or not to install it on my other laptop.
[04:31] <dwarder> Cong: as in \"something\ here\"
[04:32] <CuriousPostulate> lix: It works!!
[04:32] <lix> CuriousPostulate: \o/
[04:32] <lix> CuriousPostulate: :-D
[04:32] <lix> CuriousPostulate: Great! - Now: what was it? gsettings?
[04:32] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I set it to 30 seconds to test and it asked for my passphrase again!  Crazy settings, though... Maybe they're more obvious if you're running more gui stuff.. I don't know.. but this is awesome :D
[04:33] <lix> CuriousPostulate: \o/  Great! congrats!
[04:33] <pika> hello i have a problem trying to setup other languages for keyboard
[04:33]  * lix is happy to see another satisfied Ubuntu user!
[04:33] <Cong> dwarder, don't know anything that can do that but if you need to input literal do "0x1b" or ^V, ESC
[04:34] <CuriousPostulate> lix: gsettings.. I think something like org.gnome.crypto... gpg-cache.. something.. I also used gconf-editor to change the seahorse settings to also idle and 30 seconds.  Thanks for your help! :)
[04:34] <lix> pika: try language support settings
[04:34] <pika> lix : where is that ?
[04:34] <lix> CuriousPostulate: Oh I see. Thanks
[04:34] <lix> pika: System settigns
[04:34] <pika> lix: i did this already
[04:35] <lix> pika: system settings > keyboard layout
[04:35] <pika> lix: i followed this tutorial : http://pinyinjoe.com/linux/ubuntu-12-chinese-setup.htm
[04:35] <CuriousPostulate> lix: Now time to close 45 tabs...  Thanks again!
[04:36] <pika> lix: i got it working one time then the notification icon diseapeared
[04:36] <lix> pika: yes that looks good. - what is your problem now?
[04:36] <lix> CuriousPostulate: you're welcome, Sir :)
[04:37] <lix> pika: I guess it only appears if there are multiple languages installed
[04:37] <lix> pika: let me check
[04:37] <lonewulf> does anyone know how to solve this...This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>. it is on the xchat
[04:38] <lix> pika: yes. as soon as you have more than one keyboard layout installed the icon appears
[04:38] <lix> lonewulf: is the concerned nickname yours?
[04:38] <lonewulf> yes
[04:38] <Cong> lonewulf, change your nickname it's taken.
[04:39] <lix> lonewulf: so use "/ msg nickserv identify **password**"
[04:39] <lonewulf> cong: how would I do that?
[04:39] <pika_> lix: sorry my connection dropped
[04:39] <lix> loncewulf: if the nickname was registered by you, you can simply identify
[04:39] <lix> pika_: no worries
[04:40]  * lix will brb
[04:40] <lonewulf> lix: if it was is there a way to recover or change my password throw email?
[04:40] <pika_> lix: I was saying that at the end of the tutorial they precise that the notofication icon doesn t appear all the time but that there is a way to solve this
[04:41] <Cong> lonewulf, you tried registering it and forgot the password?
[04:41] <Cong> that's a 30 day wait now if I recall
[04:41] <lix> lonewulf: http://blog.mibbit.com/?p=1300
[04:42] <lonewulf> Cong: I think so :)
[04:43] <lonewulf> lix: I got this "You are not authorized to perform this operation."
[04:44] <Cong> I think all IRC client developers should make the nick- chan- serv a command to facilitate to use. it would be used like so /nickserv command parameters+
[04:45] <manolos_> hi all. can i ask something about conky? cause conky channel is sleepy
[04:46] <pika_> lix : any idea how i can get the notification icon to display ?
[04:47] <Tempus_Fugit_> can anyone help me with Cairo Dock GL I use a dual monitor setup in Ubuntu 12.04 and its placing the dock in the middle of both screens
[04:47] <lix> pika_: it should display as soon as you got more than one keyboard layout in your system settings
[04:49] <pika__> hello
[04:49] <ziggyfish_> ahh, the bios has it RAIDed
[04:49] <pika__> hello can someone help me ?
[04:50] <Cong> lonewulf, you don't have to wait. go to #help or #services, they might be able to help, and tell 'em you want to cancel the registration.
[04:50] <ziggyfish_> now just have to work out how to tell the bois not to raid
[04:50] <ziggyfish_> its using uefi
[04:50] <lix> pika_: try to check the keyboard setting in system settings
[04:53] <Tempus_Fugit_> can anyone help me fix my cairo dock, Its positioned in the middle of 2 screens and Im trying to position it the the main screen on the laptop if i need to upload a snappy to imagebin i will
[04:54] <Cong> Tempus_Fugit_, pick a side but the middle
[04:54] <lunaphyte> Cong: i must have been doing something wrong before.  adjusting the setting using ccsm seems to have worked.  thanks for the help
[04:55] <solofight> people i have purchased a core i3, 2gb ddr3 machine - should i put 32 bit or 64 bit os ? it has come preloaded with fedora 32 bit
[04:55] <lunaphyte> solofight: 64 bit no question.
[04:56] <solofight> lunaphyte: is there any other reason for going with 64 bit apart from capability of huge ram handling ?
[04:56] <lunaphyte> that's backwards
[04:56] <solofight> i just have 2 gb and i understood after 4 gb is where the real difference kicks in
[04:56] <solofight> lunaphyte: backwards ?
[04:56] <lunaphyte> larger maximum memory capacities is little more than a side effect of the real benefits of a 64 bit processor.
[04:57] <lunaphyte> but i'd track down some more ram though if it were me.
[04:57] <lunaphyte> it's so cheap.
[04:58] <ADR524> This is my first time using Linux, I'm trying to use the terminal and no matter how I get to it, when It asks for my user name I enter it, when it asks for my password though it wont even let me type. I can return though.
[04:58] <ADR524> How do I fix this?
[04:58] <solofight> lunaphyte: what would be other notable benefits of 64 bit ? if you are saying ram handling is just a side effect !
[04:59] <Mattsyco> are you using Ubuntu ADR524?
[04:59] <ADR524> Yes
[04:59] <Tempus_Fugit_> Cong: where does it give me that option?
[04:59] <Cong> Tempus_Fugit_, it should have a option for it.
[05:00] <Tempus_Fugit_> Cong: in cairo dock settings or display settings?
[05:00] <ADR524> Even when it was trying to encrypt my home file It wouldnt let me entermy password. So I was forced to just exit without getting a passphrase.
[05:01] <fr3nk_> ADR524, try to enter it anyway maybe. and see how it goes
[05:01] <ADR524> hahah
[05:01] <ADR524> It just doesnt give me a notification that I'm entering it.
[05:01] <fr3nk_> no problem
[05:01] <fr3nk_> just do it
[05:01] <Mattsyco> ADR524, try going into the users setting in the system settings and doublechecking the password you set up
[05:01] <fr3nk_> you want ****s?
[05:01] <ADR524> Thank you Frenk.
[05:02] <ADR524> I was looking for *****'s
[05:02] <ADR524> :-)
[05:02] <fr3nk_> you wont see *****s
[05:02] <ADR524> Haha.
[05:02] <fr3nk_> why do you want them?
[05:03] <lunaphyte> solofight: the entire architecture of the processor is 64 bit.  registers, datapaths, integers, which means that programs which are built with this in mind have inherent performance benefits.  thinking that more ram is a reason to use a 64-bit os is silly - especially since 32-bit operating systems have long since supported more than 4gb of ram.
[05:03] <hacker> hey buddy
[05:04] <maslo2> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH, how would I go about fixing this ?
[05:04] <Cong> I want them too. I want to see stars when I type in passwords.
[05:06] <Cong> This is what I want to see ****-****.
[05:06] <lunaphyte> solofight: examples of software which often appreciate benefits from this are things like codecs and encryption software,
[05:06]  * lix loves Free Software
[05:06] <dauntless> maslo2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:06] <maslo2> thank you I will try taht right away
[05:07] <dauntless> it will take awhile
[05:07] <dauntless> not sure what you are trying to do, so you may not be finished there
[05:08] <Cong> before you compile, check the ingredients
[05:09] <maslo2> E: Unable to locate package build-essentials
[05:09] <dauntless> maslo2: make sure you do a sudo apt-get update prior
[05:09] <maslo2> weird
[05:10] <dauntless> apt-get update
[05:10] <maslo2> just did
[05:10] <bazhang> maslo2, no 's'
[05:10] <maslo2> still the same errors
[05:10] <maslo2> oh
[05:10] <blackshirt> good
[05:10] <maslo2> thank you!
[05:10] <dauntless> working?
[05:10] <maslo2> thanks a lot :) yeah it is
[05:11] <dauntless> are you doing anything with the kernel?
[05:11] <blackshirt> !build-essential
[05:11] <blackshirt> !info build-essential
[05:12] <Cong> If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package.
[05:13] <blackshirt> i think he need it for some reason :d
[05:13] <dauntless> maslo2: after its finished you can do a --> which gcc
[05:14] <maslo2> needed it to build jailkit
[05:14] <dauntless> you should see something like /usr/bin/gcc
[05:14] <maslo2> yeah I see /usr/bin/gcc
[05:15] <dauntless> should be ok now unless your path is jacked
[05:15] <SuperSonicSound> Hello World!
[05:16] <dauntless> echo $PATH
[05:16] <Cong> if this package and the manual disagree, the manual is correct.
[05:17] <Cong> it's written in the package information.
[05:18] <devish> any ideas where is the config file of pidgin?
[05:19] <lix> decish: ~/.purple
[05:19] <lix> devish: ~/.purple
[05:19] <Cong> You only need GCC, make, gdb, and binutils.
[05:21] <devish> lix: but why.....does purle has cofe other configurations as well like that of empathy/
[05:21] <devish> *purple
[05:21] <devish> i need to refresh my pidgin.....she doesn't talk to me now
[05:22] <blackshirt> what you mean ?
[05:22] <lwizardl> has Amazon made the newer kindles not connectible to linux pc's ?
[05:22] <lix> devish: mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_bak and try again
[05:22] <lix> devish: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ConfigurationFiles
[05:23] <lwizardl> I am trying to add content to the Kindle Fire (not HD) and it doesn't want to mount as USB storage
[05:23] <devish> lix: good ideas ...thanks buddy
[05:23] <lix> devish: welcome, Sir
[05:24] <dauntless> ls
[05:24] <lix> dauntless: wrong tty
[05:24] <lix> :)
[05:24] <dauntless> yep
[05:24] <dauntless> ;)
[05:24] <lix> haha
[05:25] <dauntless> at least no password reveal
[05:25] <lix> dauntless: *damn* - thought I got you fianlly
[05:26]  * lix wants root on dauntless' workstation
[05:26] <xangua> lwizardl: does the kindle uses ics¿ this might help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[05:26] <sadec> hey
[05:26] <dauntless> anyway, ls should have been ls -lart or something more interesting
[05:26] <lix> sadec: Hi there
[05:27] <lwizardl> xangua, not sure I know the kindle is running 10.2.1 version of kindle OS (I guess it would be called)
[05:27] <sadec> hey lix
[05:27] <lix> sadec: whats up?
[05:30] <saTTY> hey
[05:30] <saTTY> how to update ubuntu 12.04 12.11
[05:31] <lwizardl> xangua, yeah I just looked at the kindle settings and nothing there for MTP or USB. other then ADB debug usb
[05:31] <dauntless> update-manager -d
[05:32] <lix> saTTY: update-manager -d
[05:32] <dauntless> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-from-ubuntu-12-04/
[05:33] <lix> saTTY: in the update manager switch to "notify me about any update verseion"
[05:33] <saTTY> :) lix dauntless
[05:33] <dauntless> oh yeah, server or desktop?
[05:33] <lix> saTTY: yes. click the link dauntless posted
[05:33] <swiftkick> I'm having a strange problem. I have one motherboard audio device. When I run VLC 204 (and only VLC so far that I know of) audio player, no matter which device output method i select, it opens a window that says:
[05:33] <maslo> sigh I can't even get jailkit to work right -sadface- I dunno if I'll ever get used to ubuntu
[05:34] <swiftkick> AUdio output failed: The audio device "sysdefault:CARD=VT82xx" could not be used:
[05:34] <swiftkick> and then proceeds to play anyway
[05:34] <swiftkick> except with intermittent bouots of lots of extra static
[05:34] <dauntless> maslo: bummer, what's up
[05:34] <swiftkick> i get the feeling this might only occur when i have things like, flash and qmmp open (but not playing) in other windows
[05:35] <swiftkick> *bouts
[05:35] <maslo> what I hate is that what I'd like to do sometimes is just undo what I did ie: install something and all of it's components and try to do it again to see where it messed up
[05:35] <dauntless> well, you can with apt
[05:35] <maslo> dauntless: don't really know if I try to log in as the jailed user it just quits right after
[05:35] <maslo> yeah I know how to do it with apt but can you do it if you build something yourself
[05:35] <maslo> and didn't install it through apt?
[05:35] <dauntless> uh, yuck
[05:36] <average_drifter> any software to download an entire mailing list for offline reading ?
[05:37] <fishcooker> is that swap partition still really matter?
[05:37] <dauntless> does the jailed user have a user home dir
[05:37] <maslo> yes
[05:38] <fishcooker> what yes maslo
[05:38] <swiftkick> benzo eat a eat
[05:38] <solofight> lunaphyte: thank you
[05:38] <maslo> yes the jailed user have a user home dir
[05:38] <swiftkick> oops sorry wrong vector
[05:38] <maslo> I'm just trying to ssh into the user using putty and it close right after the automatic message(after logging into my vps)
[05:39] <swiftkick> maslo: arent there a couple files in /etc like /etc/shells and maybe /etc/loginusers (or something like that) that determine who can actually login and with what shells
[05:40] <swiftkick> someoneThe audio device "sysdefault:CARD=VT82xx" could not be used:
[05:40] <swiftkick> sheit
[05:40] <swiftkick> apologies
[05:40] <swiftkick> someone here ought to know more about it than I
[05:40] <ghostconn> hello is there a cheat engine alternative to use with transmission?
[05:40] <daniel-gnu> hello
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> ghostconn: transmission is pretty neat, what else you need as function?
[05:41] <lix> daniel-gnu: moin
[05:41] <dauntless> maslo: what version 2.15?
[05:41] <maslo> 2.11 actually
[05:43] <dauntless> newer releases available… right?
[05:43] <dauntless> what release of ubuntu
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | dauntless
[05:44] <maslo> I actually gotta go due to an emergency and don'T wanna leave the vps running with something not working (not the only one using it), how would I remove everything that I installed using make/make install
[05:44] <superfake123> is there a ppa that is current with the chromium releases?
[05:44] <dauntless> ;) thanks
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> superfake123:goto chromium website to get latest
[05:45] <dauntless> see if there is an uninstall in the dir
[05:45] <dauntless> then do a ./uninstall.sh or whatever if its there
[05:45] <superfake123> lotuspsychje, and just build it myself?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> superfake123:there is a latest .deb chromium for ubuntu mate
[05:46] <superfake123> OH
[05:46] <dauntless> maslo: any luck there
[05:46] <fishcooker> btw how much size for swap?
[05:46] <maslo> redownloading the tar and checking if there's an uninstall
[05:46] <maslo> I had deleted it
[05:47] <dauntless> :(
  transmission is great yes but with windows i use utorrent and usually get anywhere between 1-1.5mbps but when i use cheat engine my speeds go upwards of 4mbps
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !swap | fishcooker
[05:47] <maslo> COPYRIGHT    Makefile.in  config.status  debian  install-sh  src
[05:47] <maslo> INSTALL.txt  README.txt   configure      extra   man
[05:47] <maslo> Makefile     config.log   configure.ac   ini     py
[05:47] <maslo> is all there is
[05:47] <ghostconn> i was just wondering if there was a linux alternative to that type of software
[05:47] <maslo> and I dunno where it actually installed it and how to remove it >-<
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ghostconn:speeds are relevant to seeders and peers, not the the software
[05:47] <superfake123> lotuspsychje, ummmm... where? I'm not seeing it. only finding the source to download
[05:48] <dauntless> maslo: you may have to got through the install-sh and see what its done
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ghostconn: i use transmission with fast speeds without trouble
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> superfake123:or try software centre for chromium
[05:48] <maslo> root@vps:/tmp/jailkit-2.11# ./install-sh
[05:48] <maslo> install:        no input file specified
[05:48] <ghostconn> i understand that but what cheat engine dose is speed hacks packets as they come through you're router
[05:48] <ghostconn> youtube it and see or yourself
[05:49] <ghostconn> youll double if not tripple your speeds
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | superfake123
[05:49] <superfake123> the latest stable version is 23
[05:49] <superfake123> that is waaaaay old
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> ghostconn:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=782312 something like this?
[05:51] <topper4125> @superfake123 http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/new-chromium-stable-and-development.html
[05:52] <futureleader> !vpn
[05:52] <soomon> hello. i have my pc with intel sanybridge onboard graphics connected to my av receiver via HDMI. when i run the 12.10 livecd everything works. after the installation neither grub nor unity shows up. the system itself seems to boot though. i dont care about grub but the desktop of course. it seems it cant detect the correct resolution or refresh rate. what can i do?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | soomon
[05:52] <topper4125> and if you want 'extra fresh chromium' Nightly Builds PPA: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[05:53] <soomon> i cant switch to a console screen with strg+alt+f1 .. so i cant use randr?
[05:53] <futureleader> Hello guys whats a nice VPN in ubuntu?
[05:53] <ziggyfish_> yay, finally got ubuntu booted, thanks for all your help
[05:54] <futureleader> ziggyfish_:  it woun't boot again. muhahaha
[05:54] <fego> !vpn | futureleader
[05:54] <futureleader> fego ive been there
[05:54] <ziggyfish_> futureleader, your right, going to install it again with the right settings now
[05:55] <futureleader> ziggyfish_:  what are you installing... 12.10 LTS?
[05:55] <soomon> lotuspsychje any other idea?
[05:55] <ziggyfish_> futureleader, just 12.10, 12.04 was the LTS
[05:55] <futureleader> i have 12.10 LTS
[05:55] <futureleader> running it now
[05:56] <topper4125> maybe your thinking 12.04.01 Latest update to 12.04 LTS
[05:56] <topper4125> 12.10 is the latest version out.. but *not* LTS
[05:56] <superfake123> topper4125, that guy hasn't updated the stable channel either :( his dev channel is current though. guess I'll use that for now
[05:56] <futureleader> Where do i see my C version
[05:57] <futureleader> PC
[05:57] <topper4125> k
[05:58] <ziggyfish_> anyway I am happy, got a new laptop, and got ubuntu working
[06:00] <almoxarife> ziggyfish_: congrats
[06:00] <superfake123> sorry~ I just need that specific version to resolve a css issue but I can see it in v24 so this'll do
[06:02] <ziggyfish_> whats a good file system for a ssd, ext4?
[06:02] <kimphill_> futureleader, what do you mean, PC version?
[06:02] <topper4125> @superfake ya... just read this: This PPA is temporarily on hold until we fix some technical issues. that's for the nightly build PPA... not sure what the problem is.. they didn't go into detail
[06:02] <almoxarife> ziggyfish_: is a win machine ever going to need to read the ssd?
[06:02] <lix> ziggyfish: ssd is hardware ext4 a fliesystem
[06:03] <futureleader> Where do i see my Linux version
[06:03] <ziggyfish_> almoxarife, it has no windows
[06:03] <lix> ziggyfish: oups. sorry misread your question
[06:03] <kimphill> futureleader, uname -a
[06:03] <superfake123> hit ctrl alt T and then type uname -a
[06:03] <themhz> in the file manager on the right on the tree were I see home, file system how can I see network folders?
[06:04] <kimphill> futureleader, or cat /etc/issue
[06:04] <almoxarife> ziggyfish_: if you dont plan on making the ssd avail to win then ext4 is as good as any
[06:05] <lix> ziggyfish: yes. i'd say so ext4 is a good fs for an ssd
[06:05] <themhz> I have a nas server and I can't access it anymore :(
[06:05] <lix> themhz: what NAS? - Synology?
[06:05] <ziggyfish_> themhz, sucks to be you
[06:05] <lix> haha
[06:06] <almoxarife> themhz: what did you change between the last time you accessed the nas and now?
[06:06] <themhz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_access_server
[06:07] <ziggyfish_> themhz, sorry, you need to give us more information
[06:07] <almoxarife> themhz: or did someone change it for you? like lock you out?
[06:07] <themhz> well I am playing around with the (explorer) and I did sudo nautilus then I cant access my network folder. But I closed the terminal to free sudo and Is still cant see the network folder
[06:08] <xubuntu368> xfce 4.10 officially available for 12.04 or only via external PPA's?
[06:08] <almoxarife> themhz: you literally did 'sudo nautilus'?
[06:08] <themhz> yes in terminal
[06:09] <topper4125> external PPA's only 4.8 is stable 12.04 LTS version of XFCE
[06:09] <themhz> because I needed to delete a file under /var/www
[06:09] <lix> themhz: do you have physical access?
[06:10] <almoxarife> themhz: open gnome-system-monitor, how many instances of nautilus running? one of them 'root' owned?
[06:10] <themhz> yes the computer is under my control no admins around
[06:10] <almoxarife> no admins around?
[06:10] <themhz> almoxarife 1
[06:11] <almoxarife> 1 what? root running nautilus? themhz
[06:11] <themhz> i killed it almoxarife
[06:12] <themhz> 1 themhz running nautilus not root
[06:12] <lix> I dont get it. - anyways. have a good weekend, Sirs!
[06:12] <lix> Good night & good luck!
[06:13] <themhz> gn lix
[06:13] <almoxarife> themhz: dont run nautilus with 'sudo' use 'gksu' , also include --no-desktop to the command
[06:13] <themhz> whats the difference almoxarife ?
[06:14] <themhz> almoxarife,  I did gksu nautilus and I see the network folder now
[06:14] <researcher123> where can I paste an image to show you all a screenshot of errors?
[06:15] <topper4125> @researcher aar.im image hosts for free
[06:15] <researcher123> I got GPG erro while updating.Kindly help
[06:16] <almoxarife> !gksu | themhz
[06:17] <themhz> ic
[06:17] <themhz> thanx
[06:17] <almoxarife> :)
[06:17] <themhz> almoxarife,  now I always need to type gksu nautilus ?
[06:18] <themhz> in order to access my network folders?
[06:18] <almoxarife> nautilus --no-desktop
[06:20] <almoxarife> themhz: well, root seems to be able to access network folders while your user name does not, from what you are saying, no idea why though
[06:21] <themhz> almoxarife,  ok so is there a way to give permissions to user "themhz" as root to view network folders somehow?
[06:22] <almoxarife> themhz: there is
[06:24] <thanigai> need help on wifi hotspot
[06:25] <crimsonmane> thanigai: can you be more specific?
[06:26] <thanigai> i have wifi adaptor . i created wifi hotspot in my ubuntu . but in  android mobile i cant see the hotspot.
[06:27] <almoxarife> thanigai: you sure the problem is not with the android?
[06:28] <thanigai> yes i  sure
[06:28] <almoxarife> thanigai: any other machine besides android you can sniff out the wifi with?
[06:30] <thanigai> yes i connected with my friend Mac laptop. works fine
[06:30] <almoxarife> thanigai: so the mac sees the wifi hotspot?
[06:32] <vanja90> #sabac
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> any packages to measure wifi range?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> to see how far the adapter goes
[06:35] <thanigai> yes i can  get internet from Mac to Android.
[06:36] <almoxarife> lotuspsychje: how far?
[06:36] <thanigai> 10 meter
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> almoxarife:yes how far it can pickup ssid's
[06:38] <topper4125> search software center for "wicd"
[06:38] <almoxarife> lotuspsychje: 'kismet' will tell you signal strength in (db)  for all ssids it sniffs
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> almoxarife: ok tnx ill try
[06:39] <ympsinc> is there a way to scan for active remote desktop machines on my local home network
[06:39] <almoxarife> topper4125: thats a network manager, wicd
[06:39] <almoxarife> ympsinc: zenmap/nmap
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !info kismet
[06:40] <AznLosty> hey guys, when I reboot my ubuntu it sits at the GRUB menu where it used to have a count down timer, but not anymore
[06:40] <AznLosty> should be an easy fix but I can't find it.... any ideas?
[06:41] <topper4125> it is... but it does strength metering much better than the default manager.
[06:43] <SpArTaKo> en español??
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> almoxarife:is there a gui addon for kismet
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !es | SpArTaKo
[06:45] <almoxarife> lotuspsychje: not that i know of, its sort of graphical, its not command line at least
[06:45] <atul> hello oln
[06:46] <atul> hello josh
[06:46] <josh___> hello
[06:46] <atul> whats up josh
[06:46] <AznLosty> how do i adjust the countdown timer for GRUB?
[06:47] <josh___> not much. working on some homework
[06:47] <atul> just use the application boot manager
[06:47] <atul> do it
[06:47] <inashdeen> hi there, i have a problem. i am using lenovo ideapad s260, i have installed non-free drivers on this ubuntu 12.04, i could connect to wireless network, but i cant get any internet. i could confirm that the line is working and I can connect to the network on another ubuntu
[06:48] <josh___> is your wlan0 interface configured for auto dhcp?
[06:48] <inashdeen> josh____ : yes
[06:49] <josh___> If you haven't already, I would try bringing wlan0 down and bringing it back up...particularly if your network has dhcp reservations. i have had an issue with that before
[06:49] <inashdeen> how is that? i don't understand
[06:50] <josh___> in terminal: ifconfig wlan0 down
[06:50] <josh___> you may need to be sudo
[06:50] <josh___> and then: ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:50] <inashdeen> it says : ERROR while getting interface flags : no such device
[06:50] <SixThousandOwls> I love how Ubuntu forums/chats are always more helpful about everything. Even about other operating systems.
[06:51] <josh___> are you connecting via wireless?
[06:52] <inashdeen> josh___ : a while. I will restart and reconnect and then put it down
[06:53] <josh___> k. That has solved some lack of internet connectivity issues for me in the past. Outside of that, i'm not sure what the issue may be
[06:57] <AznLosty> nope... not in boot manager =/
[06:58] <inashdeen> i have a very confusing problem. my wifi become nuts. Sometimes it connects, sometimes it connects with no internet connection. I am using ubuntu 12.04 on lenovo ideapad s206. any help
[06:59] <Carlinhos> Is there a way to change my user's real name? When I change it in "Users and Groups" it always reverts back to the original. Using Xubuntu.
[07:01] <Benyamin90> hello all
[07:02] <Benyamin90> |-)
[07:09] <themhz> almoxarife,  I just discovered that in nautilus top menu view ->sidebar ->places will reappear my network "place". Without knowing it before I changed it to tree and in tree mode It doesn't display the places :P anyway
[07:17] <robertzaccour> hey yall
[07:18] <blackshirt> hey
[07:19] <inashdeen> could someone help me. My wireless connection so unpredictable. It slow in getting internet connection
[07:20] <jilebedev> Hi there. I've got a package name, and I would acquire it with sudo apt-get install foobar. However, this machine has no internet connection. How do I go about acquiring the .deb file? There must be searchable package repositories for ubuntu, accessible via http?
[07:22] <CQ> hello, any idea when libreoffice 3.6 series will show up in precise? I know quantal is current, but precise is LTS ...
[07:24] <OerHeks> jilebedev, do you want to do an offline install ?
[07:24] <OerHeks> !offline
[07:24] <OerHeks> i would choose apt-on-cd
[07:35] <Karlo_> Trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.1, in maintenance shell, no network.  I'm getting a long list of errors possibly due to a corrupt dpkg database.  What can I do?
[07:36] <Razgul> st
[07:36] <Razgul> Anyone home?
[07:36] <SortiE> ye
[07:36] <Razgul> Got a question.
[07:36] <OerHeks> Karlo_, you need network to upgrade.
[07:37] <Razgul> I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 and I was wondering if there was a port-over of Zello that worked.
[07:38] <Karlo_> If that's true, then the question would be, "How can I bring up the network from single-user mode" -- I did have this machine briefly visible from my main machine on the LAN, but I don't know what I did and I haven't been able to reproduce it.
[07:42] <gabkdlly> Razgul, have you tried running it under Wine ?
[07:42] <Razgul> gabkdlly, Installing it again now. The last time I tried was under 12.04 and everything worked but the login.
[07:45] <Razgul> I get a "Monthly rate exceeded" error, which is odd.
[07:45] <Razgul> Ahh, I see. Apparently they switched it from free to paid. Nevermind then.
[07:50] <gabkdlly> Razgul, there is also imo.im which is web based and has this kind of walkie-talkie feature ( which I have not used, so your milage may vary )
[07:50] <Razgul> Thank you.
[07:51] <jilebedev> I now have a new-found fear and respect for package managers.
[07:52] <Karlo_> Me too.
[07:52] <Karlo_> Though it might be anger and disrespect.
[07:52] <jilebedev> Attempted to do an "usb stick fromw windows to 12.04 server install' wireless install ... sudo dpkg -i a few packages, eh? NOPE. No sir.
[07:53] <jilebedev> It's surprising how easy it is to break things by attempting to install packages by hand ... that are clearly listed for precise pangolin, for the correct cpu architecture. Hargh.
[07:56] <talpur> Hi
[07:58] <talpur> Hi community I want to remove the dirctory jre7.0.1 fro the path /usr/lib/jvm/jre7.0.1 what comannd should I use...
[07:58] <talpur> cd
[07:59] <XRS1> sudo apt-get purge maybe?
[08:00] <talpur> Hi community I want to remove the dirctory jre7.0.1 fro the path /usr/lib/jvm/jre7.0.1 what comannd should I use
[08:00] <XRS1> or sudo apt-get remove?
[08:00] <talpur> XRSI: u write command for me
[08:00] <ar9> does anyone know how to force yakuake to use transparency?
[08:01] <ariel767> hi
[08:02] <ariel767> is anyone able to help me with wifi problems
[08:02] <XRS1> compiz installed?
[08:02] <XRS1> what problems
[08:02] <ariel767> sometimes it works, sometimes it does not
[08:02] <ariel767> i mean sometimes when i turn on the computer, the wifi does work
[08:02] <ariel767> and most times it does not work and
[08:02] <XRS1> pretty generic. what specificly? doesnt see the AP? doesnt connect? connects but no inet?
[08:02] <ariel767> it then keeps showing the connecting symbol at the top
[08:03] <talpur> XRSI:I use the command sudo rmdir but the error comes Directory not empty so..So what swtich I use so the Full directory may remove
[08:03] <ariel767> It does not connect
[08:03] <XRS1> delete the AP and set it up again
[08:04] <ariel767> this is a fresh install of ubuntu we are talking about
[08:04] <XRS1> talpur,  your should probably uninstall the app, not delete it use sudo apt-get remove or sudo apt-get purge
[08:04] <ariel767> and all of the installs i have had over the last year (quite a lot) I have just had dodgy internet
[08:04] <ar9> is there anyway to check with apt-get what programs depend on the package i want? like sudo apt dependencies mplayer
[08:05] <Karlo_> talpur, "rmdir -r" will remove a directory along with its contents (recursively), but it's not clear to me that this is what you should be doing.
[08:05] <XRS1> if your sure you just want to delete it: rmdir /path/to/dir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
[08:06] <ariel767> What is AP you have told me to set up
[08:06] <XRS1> AP = Access Point (your router)
[08:06] <BYC> hellopat: 哈哈哈
[08:07] <ariel767> what is AP
[08:07] <XRS1> AP = Access Point (your router)
[08:07] <ariel767> reset my router?
[08:07] <XRS1> no
[08:07] <ariel767> I have 2 routers (long story) and it does not work with either
[08:07] <XRS1> go into the wlan0 settings, delete all the remembered access points (routers) and reconnect
[08:08] <ariel767> i have already done that kind of thing#
[08:08] <talpur> Karlo: I want to remove directory "jvm" which is on location /usr/lib/jvm........So kindly write me he commnad to remove it..this directory may contain different directories and files But I want to remove it
[08:08] <ariel767> ive done all sorts of little things like restarting the card, and it never works
[08:08] <XRS1> its probably the card then
[08:08] <ariel767> It is a TL-WN951N
[08:09] <themhz> anyone know any code snippet manager for ubuntu?
[08:09] <XRS1> you could try a diff driver, or NDIS wrapper, or WiCD
[08:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:09] <Karlo_> talpur, you want to remove *all* of /usr/lib/jvm ?
[08:09] <talpur> Karlo: yes
[08:09] <Karlo_> talpur, sudo rm -r /usr/lib/jvm
[08:10] <ariel767> Can you send me a link to instructions for installing different drivers
[08:10] <XRS1> if your sure you just want to delete it: rmdir /usr/lib/jvm -r --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
[08:11] <ariel767> Can you send me instructions to change wifi drivers
[08:11] <XRS1> there are plenty on the Ubuntu forums
[08:11] <XRS1> and google
[08:11] <XRS1> have trouble, i'll gladly help, but you gotta do something for yourself
[08:12] <XRS1> thats how you learn
[08:14] <talpur> Hi community What is difference between .tar.gz file and only .gz file
[08:15] <fego> talpur: .tat.gz file is archieved whrn zipped ,.gz is a aormal zipped file
[08:16] <fego> .tar.gz*
[08:16] <Karlo_> In genera, foo.bar.gz is a compressed form of foo.bar
[08:16] <Karlo_> l
[08:16] <SwedeMike> talpur: .tar just takes a bunch of files and puts them into an archive, gzip compresses. tar can do both in one run with appropriate flags.
[08:17] <ar9> is there a command line to check reverse dependencies
[08:17] <talpur> fego: So which command we use for .gz file....as for .tar.gz we use tar xvf filename
[08:17] <fego> gzip mainly talpur
[08:18] <Karlo_> "gzip -d x.gz" will replace x.gz with the original file x
[08:18] <talpur> fego: can you write the full cammnad..i have file talpur.gz so what will be the command
[08:19] <dzup> yeah but still you guys never answer his question, whats the difference between .gz and .tzr besides the extenton
[08:19] <fego> gzip talpur, will automatically make a file called talpur.gz
[08:19] <SwedeMike> fego: gunzip talpur.gz will leave you talpur only.
[08:19] <SwedeMike> ba
[08:19] <SwedeMike> meant for talpur
[08:19] <Karlo_> talpur,   gzip -d talpur.gz | file -   will tell you what type of file it is, if you don't already know.
[08:19] <Karlo_> Oops
[08:19] <Karlo_> talpur,   gzip -d <talpur.gz | file -   will tell you what type of file it is, if you don't already know.
[08:20] <Karlo_> (Need the "<" in order to have the effect I intended.)
[08:21] <Karlo_> The answer is that something.gz is (by convention) a compressed form of something.  something.tar.gz is not a special case; it's just a compressed form of something.tar, as per the first answer.
[08:22] <OerHeks> ar9 install apt-rdepends, usage apt-rdepends <package>  ( and see man apt-rdepends )
[08:22] <ar9> OerHeks: thanks
[08:23] <XiaolinDraconis> whats the deal with usb 1.1 ports?
[08:23] <XiaolinDraconis> i unplugged my mouse, couple hours later i plugged it back in and it doesnt get detected
[08:24] <dzup> hmm if is compress as ou said if c¿you compres a file to .gz , then compress that .gz to a .tar.gz ...the actually file its bigger that the original .gz dho
[08:24] <dzup> so, its actually not true
[08:25] <XiaolinDraconis> if its tar.gz wouldnt the tar compression come first then the gzip?
[08:26] <XiaolinDraconis> whats the module name for usb mouse? im wondering if modprobe will enable my mouse
[08:27] <Karlo_> Tar is archival, not compression.
[08:28] <Guestuser2093> hello
[08:28] <Karlo_> It aggregates multiple files into one larger file.
[08:28] <Guestuser2093> use gz
[08:28] <Guestuser2093> So what is this that I hear about amazon-assoc to all of my ubuntu searches?
[08:28] <Karlo_> "compress that .gz to a .tar.gz" -- nobody said this, and it doesn't make sense.
[08:28] <dzup> i think the answer is , both are compress, but .gz is a single file, and .tar its multiple files
[08:29] <Karlo_> .tar is multiple files, not compressed at all.  (The resulting file should always be larger than the sum of the individual file sizes.)
[08:30] <dzup> hats way .tar.gz refers to multiple-files in a single file compress, i guess
[08:30] <Guestuser2093> Right just use gz
[08:30] <Guestuser2093> or 7zip is you really like it I guess
[08:30] <Karlo_> foo.tar.gz is a gzip compression of foo.tar, which is a tar aggregation of something, probably a foo/ directory.
[08:31] <dzup> bases clear, lets move on, please
[08:31] <XiaolinDraconis> anybody know how to fix usb 1.1 not picking up my mouse?
[08:31] <Guestuser2093> so why is ubuntu forwarding some of my search terms queries to amazon?
[08:31] <XiaolinDraconis> works fine at boot
[08:31] <XiaolinDraconis> but after reconnect it wont detect
[08:31] <Guestuser2093> Isn't this a blatant privacy violation ?
[08:32] <XiaolinDraconis> someone thought we wanted unity to act like bing
[08:32] <auronandace> Guestuser2093: you can turn it off
[08:33] <Guestuser2093> auronandace: How? And why is it turned on by default that's my problem.
[08:33] <XiaolinDraconis> because canonical needs money
[08:33] <XiaolinDraconis> simple as that
[08:33] <auronandace> Guestuser2093: system settings privacy
[08:33] <Guestuser2093> Can I make a custom image somehow where it isn't turned on by default? I can no longer recommend this to my boss nor my family anymore.
[08:34] <Guestuser2093> Yea well why not ask for donation like wiki instead but blatantly using user input for petty cash
[08:34] <XiaolinDraconis> you can try "Ubuntu Builder"
[08:35] <auronandace> Guestuser2093: no point complaining here, we just do support, we don't design ubuntu
[08:35] <auronandace> !brainstorm | Guestuser2093
[08:35] <XiaolinDraconis> Guestuser2093, i wouldn't recommend suggesting beta products to friends, that is essentially what .10 release is
[08:35] <Karlo_> I should make a custom version of ubuntu where unrecognized clicks will default to my paypal button.
[08:36] <XiaolinDraconis> genius
[08:36] <Guestuser2093> Yea my bad just irritated that this had to happen my boss wanted to move on to linux and I was gonna help get them running on ubuntu but after he read about this he wants to just move on to windows 8 ugh
[08:36] <XiaolinDraconis> 12.04 doesnt have that
[08:36] <XiaolinDraconis> its a stable release, 12.10 is where the experiments happen
[08:38] <XiaolinDraconis> Guestuser2093, keep in mind not all things with a higher version are of a higher quality
[08:38] <Xix19> hey, I have 2 SSH connections to my server over a high-latency network, one using PuTTY the other using FileZilla. The Putty connection works ok, but the filezilla one keeps disconnecting for some reason
[08:38] <Xix19> how can I make the filezilla connection (sftp) not disconnect so much?
[08:39] <Xix19> it seems to disconnect after every file transfer or after some 30 seconds with Status: Disconnected from server
[08:40] <XiaolinDraconis> what parameter would follow modprobe for detecting a usb mouse
[08:40] <XiaolinDraconis> it wont connect and im looking for an easier solution than a reboot
[08:42] <gpu02> hello
[08:43] <Guestuser2093> gpu02: Hi
[08:43] <anton77> hello
[08:43] <Guestuser2093> Also is there a way for network-manager to start using vpn immidiately on boot?
[08:46] <anton77> how to show list of users in terminal?
[08:46] <gpu02> w
[08:51] <Karlo_> "w" or "who" or "who -u" are good choices, I believe.
[08:52] <Noname> w
[08:53] <Karlo_> (I always rebind "w" -- my philosophy is that the system should never reserve one-letter names for itself.)
[09:00] <Guest92326> exit
[09:01] <italia> hi
[09:02] <Seveas> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu
[09:04] <italia> hi
[09:05] <italia> are there people here?
[09:05] <Seveas> no, just figments of your imagination
[09:06] <italia> is my first time here?
[09:06] <theadmin> italia: Only you can know that :P
[09:06] <Seveas> theadmin, well, there are logs. We can check :)
[09:06] <theadmin> Seveas: Grepping the whole irclogs.ubuntu.com wouldn't be easy
[09:07] <italia> can you help me, plrase?=
[09:07] <Seveas> italia, that depends on what you need help with :)
[09:07] <Seveas> !ask
[09:08] <italia> could i use whatsapp in ubuntu 12.10?
[09:09] <jarlandre> does it exist any good books and/or videos about Ubuntu 12.04  for people who are clinging on the windows 7 and hates windows 8? i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my home computer and my poor wife is not familiar with it
[09:09] <Seveas> hmm, I don't know. whatsapp definitely doesn't provide official clients for linux but there may be usable 3rd party ones by now
[09:09] <theadmin> italia: That's a mobile app... No?
[09:09] <Seveas> jarlandre, there's the official ubuntu book, which does a decent intro
[09:10] <theadmin> jarlandre: Books? http://ubuntu-manual.org, also the official manual included with every Ubuntu installation (see the Help menu on desktop)
[09:10] <jarlandre> ah thanks .. i will take a search for it
[09:10] <Seveas> theadmin, it's defnitely meant for mobile, but people have reversed the protocol and written 3rd party clients, some open source
[09:10] <Seveas> jarlandre, http://www.amazon.com/The-Official-Ubuntu-Book-Edition/dp/0137081308
[09:11] <theadmin> Seveas: I see. I'm not too familiar with it, heck I don't even know what the thing does, I just googled it and it led me to mobile apps so I concluded that it has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[09:11] <Seveas> jarlandre, oh, you'll want http://www.amazon.com/The-Official-Ubuntu-Book-Edition/dp/0133017605/ref=dp_ob_title_bk instead. They're up to edition 7
[09:11] <Seveas> I still have editions 1 and 2, having proofread edition 1 :)
[09:12] <Seveas> theadmin, it's a mobile messaging app. Very popular here in .nl for instance where sms is expensive
[09:12] <theadmin> Well not everyone wants to buy stuff, ubuntu-manual is available freely as a PDF
[09:12] <llutz> whatsapp - wide speaded, highly insecure :(
[09:13] <italia> is my first time here?
[09:13] <Seveas> llutz, yeah, broken as %$%@!^
[09:31] <mgalgs> is there a way to navigate dash suggestions without the arrow keys (e.g. with tab)?
[09:37] <toa> Does Ubuntu Studio work in Windows like main Ubuntu?
[09:37] <tete_> hi, can someone tell me how i can set the default java to openjdk7? i installed it but when i try to do update-alternatives --config java it says: update-alternatives: Warnung: /etc/alternatives/java ist freihängend, wird mit der besten Auswahl aktualisiert. Es gibt nur eine Alternative in Link-Gruppe java: /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/jre/bin/java . Nichts zu konfigurieren.
[09:37] <tete_> but the symlink does not exist to /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/jre/bin/java
[09:38] <llutz> isn't it "update-alternatives --config javac" for jdk? tete_
[09:38] <tete_> ok will try it
[09:38] <tete_> Es gibt nur eine Alternative in Link-Gruppe javac: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/javac
[09:38] <tete_> Nichts zu konfigurieren.
[09:38] <tete_>  :(
[09:38] <tete_> this means: there is only one alternative in link group javac: ... nothing to configure.
[09:39] <llutz> tete_: 1st please use pastebin 2nd please prepend commands with LANG=C when you paste the output
[09:39] <tete_> i guess something went wrong with the symlinks, because the java in $PATH points to nothing
[09:39] <tete_> ok
[09:39] <tete_> ~pastebin
[09:39] <llutz> !pastebin
[09:39] <tete_> thx ;)
[09:41] <llutz> tete_: have you tried "update-alternatives --set javac"
[09:41] <tete_> javac is working
[09:41] <llutz> java* sry
[09:42] <tete_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1347281/
[09:42] <tete_> when i try your command i only get the help of update-alternatives
[09:43] <n1> can it be that thunderbird 2.0 cannot be installed on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:44] <llutz> n1: it can
[09:44] <llutz> tete_: are you on 64bit and trying to run 32bit java with missing libs?
[09:44] <tete_> its a 64 bit machine running java 64 bit
[09:44] <tete_> i removed default-jre because this was openjdk6 but i want 7
[09:45] <tete_> so i installed the openjdk-7-jre
[09:45] <n1> llutz there is the .bin file in the folder, though I canoot run it. Set everything in the properties, but doesn't start
[09:45] <tete_> but hm something went horrible wrong ^^
[09:45] <tete_> n1, try to chmod a+x the bin and run in a terminal
[09:45] <tete_> then you can paste the output
[09:45] <sbose78> Hi, I'm Shoubhik.  I have Ubuntu 10.10 installed . I'm downloading the image for 12.04  . How do I upgrade my system without losing any data?
[09:46] <DemonWitch> hey i am using emesene and it supports gtalk and facebook but not msn. WTF
[09:46] <DemonWitch> how can i connect to msn with emesene2 ?
[09:46] <simplew> how is possible to report a bug about the package network-manager? i have checked in launchpad and isnt possible
[09:47] <llutz> n1: cd /path/to/thunderbird ; chmod +x ./run-mozilla.sh ; ./run-mozilla.sh"
[09:48] <llutz> n1: or "cd /path/to/thunderbird ; chmod +x thunderbird ; ./thunderbird"
[09:49] <llutz> n1: and still, as you've been told already: it is not a goot idea to use an outdated version like this
[09:49] <bazhang> n1, install tbird from the repos
[09:49] <bazhang> !info thunderbird | n1
[09:50] <DemonWitch> can i use emesene with msn
[09:50] <DemonWitch> or are their devs retarded?
[09:50] <bazhang> DemonWitch, lose the attitude and language
[09:53] <simplew> DemonWitch: depends
[09:53] <simplew> DemonWitch: but you cant use msn directly in linux, you need a client
[09:54] <defekt> !pigeon
[09:54] <n1> llutz n1n0@lap:~/thunderbird$ chmod +x thunderbird n1n0@lap:~/thunderbird$ ./thunderbird ./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory n1n0@lap:~/thunderbird$
[09:55] <llutz> !find libstdc++.so.5  | n1
[09:55] <harry1111> hez
[09:55] <harry1111> hey
[09:55] <DemonWitch> bazhang, nope
[09:55] <bazhang> DemonWitch, nope what
[09:55] <simplew> DemonWitch: why not?
[09:55] <harry1111> can somebody give me instructions how can i restore my programms and packets
[09:56] <bazhang> harry1111, restore from what
[09:56] <llutz> harry1111: restore from what
[09:56] <Erealz> is there a ubuntu security channel?
[09:56] <simplew> DemonWitch: i never used emesene
[09:56] <n1> llutz ubottu n1n0@lap:~/thunderbird$ !find libstdc++.so.5 find . -name "*.bin" libstdc++.so.5 find: paths must precede expression: libstdc++.so.5 Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]
[09:56] <bazhang> Erealz, this is it
[09:56] <llutz> n1: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[09:56] <Erealz> ok cool just checking
[09:56] <simplew> DemonWitch: try pidgin
[09:56] <DemonWitch> i cant even add a new protocol/server in emesene. SO annoying
[09:57] <harry1111> i had installed an win os after the ubuntu os. so i restored my user bit my applications and settings are awaz
[09:57] <simplew> DemonWitch: try pidgin
[09:57] <DemonWitch> i dont like pidgin
[09:58] <simplew> i use kde-telepathy
[09:58] <harry1111> everything i tried found in google has no affect
[09:58] <DemonWitch> how can i find where emesene saves its configs?
[09:58] <ikonia> DemonWitch: the documentation
[09:58] <bazhang> harry1111, awaz?   did you update-grub? are you able to boot into both ubuntu and windows?
[09:58] <simplew> ikonia: its not in docs
[09:58] <DemonWitch> ikonia, you again
[09:59] <ikonia> simplew: the documentation doesn't show where to save it's configs
[09:59] <ikonia> DemonWitch: you may also try command --help see if there is an option to specify
[09:59] <ikonia> simplew: is it a compile option where the config file is located ?
[10:00] <n1> llutz ubottu tete, thanx a million, hope will be able tu install an addon, if not will be boring again
[10:01] <simplew> i have a itch
[10:01] <harry1111> no body _
[10:01] <bazhang> simplew, pardon?
[10:01] <N03L> Hey fellas.
[10:01] <DemonWitch> the correct way to become root, is su - root , su, or su - ?
[10:01] <llutz> DemonWitch: sudo -i
[10:01] <bazhang> harry1111, I asked you a question, please answer
[10:01] <DemonWitch> i never sudo
[10:01] <ikonia> DemonWitch: neither
[10:01] <N03L> Does anyone know how to change the start-up sound for ubuntu?
[10:01] <ikonia> DemonWitch: su  is not used in ubuntu
[10:01] <llutz> your problem
[10:02] <DemonWitch> i have enabled it
[10:02] <ikonia> DemonWitch: then you should know what you are doing
[10:02] <DemonWitch> su is used everywhere in gnu/linux and for some reason i am not allowed here
[10:02] <ikonia> DemonWitch: we don't support you using "su" as it's not the ubuntu designed security model
[10:02] <defekt> DemonWitch: sudo -i
[10:02] <DemonWitch> what is sudo -i
[10:02] <llutz> man sudo DemonWitch
[10:02] <ikonia> DemonWitch: you are "allowed" to do what you wish, but we don't support it
[10:02] <akakcolin_> try "sudo -s"
[10:03] <ikonia> DemonWitch: it's the same funcationality as "su" for root, however within the ubuntu security design
[10:03] <ikonia> DemonWitch: man sudo will give you the options (possibly some you've not heard of before)
[10:04] <bazhang>  harry1111, awaz?   did you update-grub? are you able to boot into both ubuntu and windows?
[10:07] <punto> hi.. how can I tell which version of the nvidia driver I'm using?
[10:08] <n1> llutz will I alway have to open it via termianal? is there a way to create the icon, as when opening it via chmod +x some addons are there, yet "will be available when t.bird restarted"
[10:09] <llutz> n1: create a .desktop-file for it
[10:09] <Walex2> punto: form the log file, usually '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[10:12] <harry1111> mmhh
[10:16] <n1> llutz thanks again!
[10:18] <daidai> how to download ed2k file?amule?
[10:18] <robinp> how do I create a symlink (the ubuntu folder) on a CD-image
[10:19] <ikonia> robinp: you can't
[10:19] <ikonia> robinp: the cd is "read only"
[10:19] <ikonia> robinp: so that will stop you creating anything on it
[10:19] <robinp> ikonia: i am trying to make a EFI boot disk - I copied everything onto my USB drive *other* than the ubuntu symlinked folder
[10:20] <Brustofski-Fan> Whats up with ubuntu 12.10 gnome shell remix... after installed had to use acpi=off  get gnome shell... installed jockey can't get that to work so install ati drive command line... gnome shell boots into gnome classic.. installed ubuntu desktop... unity just logs into a blank screen
[10:20] <ikonia> robinp: is there not a process for this in the ubuntu wiki
[10:21] <robinp> ikonia: no the wiki wants me to make a mess of my disk portioning and then repair it later
[10:22] <ikonia> robinp: well you're not going to be able to make a link on a cd image,
[10:22] <bhavesh> I have the same problem as here http://askubuntu.com/questions/202574/desktop-does-not-show-when-i-installed-nvidia-drivers , I reinstalled ubuntu 12.10, still did not install the non working drivers. I want to install them should I install linux source and install nvidia-current-updates?
[10:22] <DemonWitch> ikonia, you deserve a watery grave
[10:22] <robinp> ikonia: so how did the symlink on the existing CD image get there ?
[10:23] <Whiskey> Someone heregood on PHP??
[10:23] <ikonia> robinp: when the CD "image" was made the link was there, if you want to alter that you'll have to re-build the whole image (it's in squash fs)
[10:23] <ikonia> Whiskey: the guys in ##php
[10:24] <Kartagis> Whiskey: everyone on ##php is good with PHP
[10:24] <bhavesh> lol
[10:24] <the_dark_knight> Hi, In mysql table there is a new line at the end of one of my field in every row. when I search it where and "=" and "like" it gives me Empty set. How do I use the condition without worrying about the newline.
[10:25] <Kartagis> the_dark_knight: #mysql
[10:28] <simone> ciao
[10:28] <simone> !list
[10:28] <fego> tahts right
[10:29] <simone> !alis
[10:36] <harry1111> hey there
[10:36] <harry1111> can somebody help to fix my problem
[10:36] <harry1111> i had installed an win os after ubuntu os. so with the internet i have restored my user but mz settings and apps like thunderbird and the others are away
[10:36] <harry1111> how can i get them back
[10:37] <ikonia> harry1111: what do you mean "the other way"
[10:37] <ikonia> harry1111: windows/ubuntu are seperate OS's they do not interact with each other
[10:37] <harry1111> i kno
[10:37] <harry1111> w
[10:37] <ikonia> harry1111: installing windows after ubuntu will change the boot loader only, nothing more
[10:37] <ikonia> harry1111: so if you restore the bootloader (grub) you'll have the two OS's side by side and totally seperated
[10:37] <harry1111> i wat to restore mz ubuntu user settings before intstalling win
[10:38] <ikonia> harry1111: mz ?
[10:38] <harry1111> my
[10:38] <ikonia> ah
[10:38] <ikonia> harry1111: you've already restored windows haven't you ?
[10:38] <harry1111> srz keyboard layout is different
[10:38] <ikonia> harry1111: that's ok, I'm just checking what you meant, that's all
[10:38] <harry1111> no i have deleted it
[10:38] <ikonia> harry1111: ok, so what's the actual problem you are facing now ?
[10:39] <harry1111> i had udated grub. and restored mz users account but my settings and applications not there
[10:39] <ikonia> harry1111: how did you "restore" your useraccount ? there should be no need to touch your user accounts, as I said, windows does not touch that
[10:40] <harry1111> if i go to software center this tell me that i have installed gparted
[10:40] <harry1111> but there is nothing to see in list
[10:40] <ikonia> harry1111: after you restored, grub, what did you do
[10:40] <harry1111> and terminal says there is no gparted installed
[10:40] <ikonia> harry1111: after you restored, grub, what did you do
[10:41] <harry1111> i set my user
[10:41] <ikonia> what do you mean "set" your user
[10:41] <ikonia> harry1111: please try to tell me exactly what you did
[10:41] <harry1111> so i dont know, because i did a lot
[10:42] <harry1111> on my workplace there are all files
[10:42] <harry1111> and pics ...
[10:42] <ikonia> harry1111: ok - then I would suggest installing windows, then re-installing ubuntu, backing up any data you want to keep
[10:42] <harry1111> i dont need windows
[10:42] <ikonia> harry1111: ok, then I would suggest backing up any data you want, and re-installing ubuntu
[10:43] <ikonia> harry1111: putting your system into a "known" state
[10:43] <harry1111> i did
[10:43] <ikonia> harry1111: no, you didn't
[10:43] <ikonia> harry1111:  you said you restored grub
[10:43] <pc_magas> harry1111 mei too
[10:43] <pc_magas> harry1111 me too*
[10:43] <harry1111> yes with an new installation
[10:43] <FunkyRen> Goodday! I have a quite specific question about ubuntu's gcc and libc version about destructors
[10:43] <FunkyRen> what would the best place to ask?
[10:44] <ikonia> harry1111: I'm sorry, you are not making any sense
[10:44] <ikonia> FunkyRen: you're welcome to try here.
[10:44] <harry1111> which folder i have to backup with all of my settings an applications
[10:44] <FunkyRen> Oke, let's make a pastie sec ^.^
[10:44] <ikonia> harry1111: if it's a clean install as you said, you will have no applications installed
[10:45] <harry1111> i have backed up my home directorz
[10:45] <somsip> if I have on-board video and an Nvidia card, they should both show under sudo lshw, right?
[10:45] <ikonia> harry1111: when I asked what you did, - you said "I don't know" - now all of a sudden you do know ?
[10:45] <ikonia> somsip: should do
[10:46] <ikonia> harry1111: I get the impression you are not being honest with me
[10:46] <somsip> ikonia: cheers. Wife just bought a new monitor so I *have* to play at getting triple head working...
[10:46] <harry1111> maybe i cant give good explanation
[10:46] <ikonia> harry1111: I think so
[10:47] <harry1111> where are all settings in which directory _
[10:47] <ikonia> somsip: keep in mind if you are using "twinview" it can only span one single card, not multiple cards
[10:47] <ikonia> harry1111: different locations for different applications
[10:47] <harry1111> i would reinstall ubuntu. and then i will restore everything
[10:47] <somsip> ikonia: ah - I am. That might save some head banging and fixing of on-board cards. i'll research twinview for a while first
[10:51] <FunkyRen> ikonia: crap never mind, i found it, it is in the .fini_array i thought i couldn't find it there in the first place... however now i have a new question. How can I make the linker place the function pointer to the destructor in the .dtors section? Should change the linker script? Or is there a flag which makes it switch back to the .dtors section?
[10:52] <ikonia> FunkyRen: not aware of a flag for that,
[10:52] <angs> what is the command to restart Nautilus?
[10:52] <Kartagis> where are unity scripts kept?
[10:52] <ikonia> angs: "nautilus"
[10:52] <ikonia> Kartagis: what unity scripts ?
[10:53] <angs> ikonia: thanks!
[10:53] <Kartagis> or nautilus
[10:53] <FunkyRen> ikonia: oke, thx :) then i'll change the linker script
[10:53] <ikonia> Kartagis: what ?
[10:53] <angs> thank you Kartagis
[10:53] <FunkyRen> i first thought it was like magic because i couldn't find in the .dtors and fini_array, time for more coffee! :D
[10:54] <Kartagis> ikonia: when we write a script, we can copy it to a directory and it becomes available in file context menu
[10:54] <ikonia> Kartagis: who is "we" ?
[10:54] <Kartagis> don't remember which tho
[10:54] <Kartagis> we == me
[10:54] <Kartagis> sorry
[10:55] <tarelerulz> Any one else run into everyone looking blue on youtube?
[10:55] <Kartagis> sorry
[10:55] <Kartagis> the cat caused that
[10:55] <ikonia> what ?
[10:55] <ikonia> the cat caused what ?
[10:56] <Kartagis> caused me to /part
[10:58] <Kartagis> so ikonia, do you have a reply for me? about the nautilus scripts directory?
[10:58] <ikonia> Kartagis: no idea, I'd have to look it up
[11:01] <Kartagis> ikonia: would ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts work with unity?
[11:01] <dr_willis> http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[11:01] <dr_willis> ~/.gnome/nautilus-scripts
[11:01] <ikonia> Kartagis: doubtful, but I dont know
[11:02] <dr_willis> what unity scripts are you meaning?
[11:02] <sevenforall> My primary desktop has this orange selection field stuck, any way to remove it without rebooting my PC?
[11:02] <BastianB> Hello, I am trying to install an application via apt-get (skype) but the console prompt me : "The following packages have unmet dependencies:" with a list of package: apache2.2-bin, apache2.2-common, libatk-wrapper-java-jni,libatk-wrapper-java-jni, libnss3-1d, libpulse0 skype : Depends: skype-bin. And end with: E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. Does anybody knows w
[11:02] <BastianB> hat to do to resolve that and beeing able to install Skype please?
[11:02] <ikonia> BastianB: do you have any 3rd party repos or PPA's
[11:03] <BastianB> ikonia, I have added proposed one few time ago, but I have removed it
[11:03] <ikonia> BastianB: that's probably pulled down some newer dependencies that are in conflict, more so now that you've removed it
[11:04] <BastianB> ikonia, is there a special to do to get it working back? Should I re-add it?
[11:05] <ikonia> BastianB: remove anything that's in conflict
[11:05] <ikonia> BastianB: get the package manager clean, then install skype
[11:05] <BastianB> Hum, not sure to know what is in conflict, are those packages 'unmet packages'?
[11:06] <ikonia> BastianB: correct
[11:06] <BastianB> ikonia, great thanks a lot for your help !
[11:19] <N03L> Hey guys have any of you heard of nautilus?
[11:19] <Flynsarmy> I've mounted a folder on my second machine with SSHFS using sudo sshfs xbmc@<Ip>:/ /mnt/xbmc however when i try to ls /mnt/xbmc i ge permission denied. when i do a sudo ls -l /mnt I see it's owned by root:root but if i try to sudo shown it I get: chown: changing ownership of /mnt/xbmc: permission denied
[11:19] <defekt> !nautilus | N03L
[11:19] <FunkyRen> Hello again, now I have another version, where can I find the default linker script which is used by ld ?
[11:19] <jrib> Flynsarmy: why do you mount it as root?
[11:20] <Flynsarmy> jrib: i tried without root and got permission denied
[11:20] <N03L> Because I've tried using a method that involves using that to change the start up sound for ubuntu but it doesn't work.
[11:20] <jrib> Flynsarmy: because you're using /mnt/xbmc as the mount point.
[11:20] <N03L> Can anyone help me change the startup sound?
[11:20] <jrib> Flynsarmy: (use a mount point your user can write to)
[11:20] <Flynsarmy> jrib: aha, got it! i had to umount, chown the folder, remount. that did th etrick. thanks
[11:22] <tarelerulz> Where do you put java so chrome will use it?
[11:25] <Cong> N03L,  canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login" --description="GNOME Login"
[11:27] <Cong> where's the list of sounds available?
[11:31] <dr_willis> FlyOnZeWall:  i always use mountpoints in my home dir with sshfs.
[11:36] <FlyOnZeWall> too many Fly* in here, clearly =P
[11:39] <Cong> N03L, so yeah emm... you could setup a startup program to play a ogg file with the command as canberra-gtk-play -f oGGFile
[11:39] <neojonsson> Hi!
[11:41] <N03L> Cong: Cheers, but I can just move the sound file and replace the default start up sound file right?
[11:41] <N03L> Just not sure on how to do it.
[11:41] <N03L> Everytime i try, something happens.
[11:44] <maslo> hi guys, I have installed jailkit via this http://www.binarytides.com/setup-a-jail-shell-with-jailkit-on-ubuntu/ and there doesn't seem to have any unisntall file and I'm wondering how I would remove it completely?
[11:46] <Cong> maslo, it depends on the install script used. compiled binary is usually installed to /usr/loccal so just remove it from there.
[11:47] <maslo> well all the folders in /usr/local are empty ...? but I have foudn /etc/jailkit
[11:47] <Cong> I said usually.
[11:47] <maslo> they're just .ini files though not executables or anything..I'm fairly new to linux/ubuntu
[11:48] <maslo> this is for a VPS
[11:48] <maslo> where would I be able to check what the install script did?
[11:48] <jrib> maslo: when you run random things from the internet... well they can do anything they want.  You need to read its documentation or read its source code to figure out what it did and how to uninstall it
[11:48] <maslo> yeah I'm aware
[11:51] <jrib> maslo: use their mailing list if you can't find your answer in the documentation and don't want to read the source code: http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/index.html#contact
[11:53] <gordonjcp> is there some sort of post-install hook I can add stuff to in apt, or dpkg?
[11:53] <gaetano_> #compiz
[11:54] <jrib> gordonjcp: yes, I don't remember how though :x
[11:55] <gordonjcp> jrib: ah well, MOAR GOOGLE
[11:55] <jrib> gordonjcp: starting point: http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgTriggers
[11:56] <gordonjcp> jrib: tbh I'm probably solving the wrong problem, but I want to rm -rf /usr/share/sounds on every update
[11:56] <jrib> heh
[11:57] <jrib> gordonjcp: also see "hooks" in « man dpkg ».  So i guess figure out exactly what triggers and hooks are and use one of them
[11:58] <gordonjcp> jrib: yup, I see it
[11:58] <gordonjcp> jrib: I had a terrible accident with an update, when it re-enabled system sounds
[11:58] <gordonjcp> and also re-enabled that bloody infuriating conga slap sound when the login prompt appears
[11:58] <jrib> gordonjcp: did you smash your keyboard into your monitor not realizing it was the speakers you should be bashing?
[11:59] <gordonjcp> jrib: no, but I destroyed eight very expensive loudspeakers
[11:59] <gordonjcp> as well as causing about a dozen people to simultaneously soil themselves
[12:01] <Ascavasaion> I did a sudo apt-get purge gnome-screensaver and then an apt-get install xscreensaver*  I selected a screensaver, set times, etc.  but it does not work.  When I lock the screen it does not lock the screen or show the screensaver, and when the computer is idle for the set time it does not go into screensaver mode either.  Any help would be appreciated.
[12:05] <tarelerulz>  I'm loading a chat page it says it need java tm .  I download it from  the official site .     I it says you can install it in your user directory .    http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml .  I  did what it said ,but chrome don't pick it up
[12:05] <skraito> wow ubuntu not running to microsoft right
[12:05] <skraito> right
[12:05] <skraito> now i am using fedora
[12:06] <chreekat> Anyone know if it's possible to determine which Terminal profile is active from the shell?
[12:06] <chreekat> env variables or somethin
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> chreekat  try the command 'who'
[12:10] <sim642> Can anyone explain to me how I can get audio to work on Ubuntu Server?
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> sim642  it's strange to want audio on a server, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:11] <chreekat> MonkeyDust: Ah.  By 'active profile' I meant profiles as defined in Gnome Terminal
[12:11] <chreekat> Terminal with an upper case T :)
[12:11] <tarelerulz> Any of you use Java tm at all with chrome ?
[12:12] <think> Is there a pro that can give me a hand please... The prob I have is I connect internet using network connections DSL tab, but by doing so, I lose my local IP address. So I have to manually set it with "ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.8". The prob is, I change to different DSL connections, and each time I have to reset my local IP. So I was wondering if there is a way for me to create a simple script that checks my current IP, and if its not 10.0.0
[12:12] <think> .8, then it automatically changes it.
[12:12] <chreekat> I ask because I have a script that toggles color schemes (solarized light/dark), and I'd like it to act on whatever Profile is active. Currenly, "Default" is hardcoded in the script
[12:13] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[12:14] <think> any wise ones there that can help.
[12:19] <physically_fit> hi friends
[12:21] <kayboard_challen> hi
[12:22] <unrar> Hi :)
[12:22] <dr_willis> hmm
[12:22] <think> Am i in the right place?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> think, for ?
[12:23] <dr_willis> then you connect to the net. your ip should not be local any more... unless im confuswed.
[12:23] <kayboard_challen> can someone help me find out how to get my computer to work in indic scripts with a transliteration scheme?
 kinda...well you can have both, see it drops the eth0 one when it connects to dsl. I have to re-enter it using ifconfig, then i have the ISP given IP and a local on.
[12:25] <think> meant local one.
[12:26] <talpur> Hi community need help to install java7 jre...I am following weblink http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-6-7-jre-or-jdk  but couldn't intsall yet
[12:26] <dr_willis> so you are switching from a dsl connection at one location to a normal network connection at another place?
 All at home on the same network. Using router in bridged mode. I unfortunately rely on a few different DSL connections, hence must use ubuntu's built in PPPOE function. So all at home, network is 10.0.0.*, but the Network Manager doesnt support DSL and Local simaltaneously. Only the terminal does. So basically I have to set my local IP each time after making a new PPPOE connection. It works, but just would like to make it au
[12:29] <think> tomatic.
[12:29] <talpur> Hi community need help to install java7 jre on ubuntu 12.4
[12:29] <ikonia> think: network manager supports local and dls as long as they are on two different cards
[12:31] <gianpierre> ciao
[12:31] <gordonjcp> think: sounds like you need a router
[12:31] <gianpierre> !list
[12:31] <gordonjcp> think: pick up something you can run OpenWRT on, and forget all this nonsense
 lol yes...but terminal supports it on one. So I'm simply need to use the terminal or a script to check if my IP is 10.0.0.8, and if its not, to run ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.8. That would solve the prob
 ya but to lay down cash for something ubuntu does fine already, ya well. I just need the know-how to make it automatic. I made a shortcut but still..it needs to be auto.
[12:33] <ikonia> think: terminal doesn't support it on one interface, any more/less
[12:33] <gordonjcp> think: handy hint - type gor<TAB>
[12:33] <ikonia> think: you can assign virtual interfaces in network manager
[12:33] <gordonjcp> think: if you do that silly angle brackets thing, it doesn't highlight and I don't see you unless I'm looking for you
[12:33] <gordonjcp> think: you should *not* have your desktop machine directly connected to the Internet
[12:34] <dr_willis> talpur:  i just follow the guides/use the webupd8 ppa  to get java 7
[12:35] <tarelerulz> talpur , what you using java for ?
[12:35] <searching> how can I edit ubuntu 12.04 login screen?
[12:35] <talpur> dr_willis: can u tell me that how I check that jre7 installed or not on my system, from yesterday I use differnt ways
[12:35] <talpur> tarelerulz: for eclipse
[12:37] <tarelerulz> Talpur , do you know how to install it for  say using it in chrome ?
[12:37] <dr_willis> talpur:  i just use java --version to see what java i have
[12:38] <talpur> tarelerulz: no
[12:38] <talpur> dr_willis: this command gives error on my system
[12:39] <dr_willis> perhaps its -version  not --version
[12:41] <physically_fit> ikonia
[12:41] <talpur> member kindly see my code why the error occurs http://paste.ubuntu.com/1347683/
[12:42] <think>  gordonjcp: I presume this is how its done?
[12:43] <think> ikonia um..its working right now. ppp0 and eth0 simaltaneously...i can give you my ifconfig printout it that will help
[12:43] <ikonia> think: I don't need your ifconfig
[12:43] <TheLordOfTime> talpur:  do you have update manager, or synaptic running?
[12:43] <TheLordOfTime> talpur:  if you do, close those out.
[12:43] <TheLordOfTime> then try
[12:43] <ikonia> think: ppp0 and eth0 are two seperate devices, (although not physical) you can do that through network manager
[12:44] <tarelerulz> Just trying to load a chat room that use java.   Where do you put java to make the whole system us it? chrome , firefox
[12:44] <talpur> TheLordOfTime: which command I use to close them
[12:44] <greek_guy> any girl wanna chat with me
[12:44] <greek_guy> ?
[12:44] <ikonia> greek_guy: please, don't ask for that
[12:44] <think> ikonia: exactly...but network manager can only do one at a time, whereas terminal can do both.
[12:44] <TheLordOfTime> talpur:  erm, are they open in another window was the question.
[12:44] <ikonia> greek_guy: this is a technical support channel
[12:44] <ikonia> think: network manager shouldbe able to deal with both
[12:44] <TheLordOfTime> talpur:  update manager'd be its own window, so would synaptic or any other package manager.
[12:45] <RandomPixels> hello, anyone tried successfully to install fuse-exfat on 10.04 ?
[12:45] <RandomPixels> (i'm on ARM architecture)
[12:45] <tarelerulz> I'm running 12.04 and 64bit .  the offical site makes it look so easy
[12:45] <think> ikonia: connecting to the one drops the other, and vice versa..unless I've missed something, which is possible
[12:45] <ikonia> think: it really shouldn't do that, my laptop doesn't have that issue
[12:45] <talpur> TheLordOfTime: I want to close them forcely so is there any command
[12:46] <dr_willis> tarelerulz:  i just follow http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[12:46] <italia> hi
[12:48] <erle-> how do i get windows close button to the right again?
[12:48] <erle-> all the tips i google are outdated because of gconf
[12:48] <SwedFTP> Linux noob here, I'm trying to install centos 5.8 netinstall via thumdrive using Universal USB Installer to burn, and finally using that to upgrade the netbook. However, when I boot up even with the correct priorities in bios, it goes to the grub menu and all I see is memtest and boot into ubuntu, no option to boot from usb.
[12:49] <goskydiving> good morning everyone :-)
[12:49] <italia> hi
[12:50] <Stanley00> SwedFTP: you should ask in #centos
[12:50] <dr_willis> erle-:  ubuntu-tweak seems to still have the feature here.
[12:50] <dr_willis> !controls
[12:50] <goskydiving> how do i permanently enable "nomodeset" after installing 12.04.1?
[12:50] <dr_willis> goskydiving:  edit /etc/default/grub and add it to the options line. like -> 'quiet splash nomodeset'
[12:51] <Kalves> Anyone using Google Chrome v 23?  The latest version?
[12:51] <exalt> hello yesterday i had no problem chrooting, today when i redo the same as yesterday i get chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[12:51] <italia> where can i get the best aplications iubuntu n mathemathics for kids?
[12:51] <goskydiving> dr_willis: I can't get it to boot because the graphics aren't working properly.  is there a keyboard shortcut I can use to edit it without booting?
[12:52] <dr_willis> you can edit the grub menu directly. thats how you can set up one time use boot options
[12:52] <dr_willis> hold shift to see the grub menu if its hidden. hit 'e' to edit the boot line i belive
[12:52] <Stanley00> italia: try search "kid" in ubuntu software center
[12:53] <talpur>  dr_willis: I want to close  forcely update manager,synaptic or any other package manager  so is there any command
[12:54] <dr_willis> Hmm.. you have to see what  ones are still running and use killall on each one.
[12:54] <tarelerulz> thanks dr_willis,   You read from the site and it makes it sound simple. just put it into the right dir and you done .
[12:54] <Stanley00> !pm > SwedFTP
[12:54] <talpur> Members need help I want to close  forcely update manager,synaptic or any other package manager  so is there any command
[12:55] <Stanley00> talpur: try "kill" or pkill command
[12:55] <Chaterz> talpur, try kill -9 numberprocess
[12:55] <TheLordOfTime> talpur:  killall update-manager
[12:55] <TheLordOfTime> killall synaptic
[12:55] <TheLordOfTime> as for others if they're open i won't know what they are
[12:55] <TheLordOfTime> those're the two common ones
[12:55] <Chaterz> how can i see the ports opened ?
[12:56] <gordonjcp> Chaterz: nmap
[12:56] <Chaterz> i want a list all my ports
[12:56] <Chaterz> nmap -a ?
[12:56] <Stanley00> Chaterz: nmap or netstat
[12:57] <Chaterz> netstat but i can go up the list because is too long.
[12:57] <Chaterz> cant*
[12:57] <RandomPixels> netstat | grep "smth"
[12:57] <Stanley00> Chaterz: netstat -ltn
[12:57] <RandomPixels> if you're looking for something in particular
[12:58] <Chaterz> ogc.
[12:58] <Chaterz> ofc
[12:58] <RandomPixels> or easier
[12:58] <RandomPixels> netstat > myfile.txt
[12:58] <RandomPixels> then nano myfile.txt
[12:58] <RandomPixels> or pico, or vi
[12:58] <RandomPixels> depends on your editor
[12:58] <Chaterz> how can i install for a fpaste ?
[13:00] <bazhang> Chaterz, install pastebinit
[13:00] <Chaterz> it's the same ?
[13:00] <bazhang> command | pastebinit   will give you a url to paste here
[13:01] <Chaterz> leet me check
[13:01] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:02] <talpur>  Stanley00:  Chaterz: TheLordOfTime: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1347719/  kindly see the prompt snip..none of commnad work properly
[13:03] <TheLordOfTime> talpur:  no, just 'killall' as the command
[13:03] <TheLordOfTime> not 'kill all'
[13:04] <Ascavasaion> I did a sudo apt-get purge gnome-screensaver and then an apt-get install xscreensaver*  I selected a screensaver, set times, etc.  but it does not work.  When I lock the screen it does not lock the screen or show the screensaver, and when the computer is idle for the set time it does not go into screensaver mode either.  Any help would be appreciated.
[13:04] <talpur> TheLordOfTime: killall just shows the option and switches
[13:05] <talpur> TheLordOfTime: see the killall snip http://paste.ubuntu.com/1347726/
[13:06] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[13:06] <Stanley00> talpur: well, it's not that simple, first you must find out what process is lock that file, then kill it via its PID with kill command
 talpur:  killall update-manager
 killall synaptic
[13:06] <TheLordOfTime> you need to read.
[13:07] <Sheylin> hey guys, I'm using ubuntu 12.10 and wonder if it is possible to to always hide the native ubuntu icon dock, since i would rather use docky
[13:08] <Seus> I've set AllowRootLogin to no in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file on my host computer, yet when I do ssh root@mydomain.com from my client system, it still asks for the password for the root user. Is this the normal behavior?
[13:08] <Ascavasaion> howcome I cannot change the screensaver when running gnome-screensaver?
[13:09] <Stanley00> Sheylin: sadly no, you can try set the sensitive to some very value
[13:09] <adaminsull> Hello why do I get this ? http://pastebin.com/C4LFS8XX
[13:10] <savio> hello
[13:11] <Sheylin> Stanley00., thanks guess it's back to xfce for me then, i really like the the top panel with its globalmenu in ubuntu, but the dash sort of gets on my nerves since gnome-do or synapse are so much fastrer and dont show advertisements
[13:11] <Stanley00> adaminsull: lenny is not an Ubuntu release
[13:11] <adaminsull> Then what is it?
[13:12] <TheLordOfTime> a debian release
[13:12] <adaminsull> it said I needed this
[13:12] <TheLordOfTime> but its old i think
[13:12] <adaminsull> Said I need it
[13:12] <Stanley00> Sheylin: you can uninstall that shopping-lens
[13:12] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: What exactly are you trying to do?
[13:12] <adaminsull> gordonjcp: apt-get upgrade
[13:12] <Sheylin> Stanley00, thanks, that's how it's called
[13:12] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: so where does lenny come into it?
[13:13] <adaminsull> lemme pastebin
[13:13] <Stanley00> Sheylin: not that name, maybe unity-lens-shopping
[13:13] <TheLordOfTime> adaminsull:  um... why do you need to install something from lenny..?
[13:13] <TheLordOfTime> you shouldn't have to...
[13:13] <adaminsull> I don't know but lemme pastebing
[13:13] <adaminsull> pastebin
[13:14] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: stop
[13:14] <adaminsull> http://pastebin.com/rg8wsq6R
[13:15] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: if you don't know *why* you're doing a thing, *DON'T BLOODY WELL DO IT*
[13:15] <adaminsull> gordonjcp: Look at the pastebin link it explains
[13:15] <wingy> how can i find a content in a file in a specific folder
[13:15] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: what are you actually running?
[13:15] <adaminsull> ubuntu
[13:16] <gordonjcp> which version?
[13:16] <Stanley00> wingy: you can use grep command
[13:16] <adaminsull> how do I check?
[13:17] <n8w> hey guys
[13:17] <bekks> adaminsull: By running lsb_release -a and putting it into a pastebin
[13:17] <adaminsull> ok
[13:17] <defekt> uname -a
[13:17] <adaminsull> 12.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 12.2.0: Sat Aug 25 00:48:52 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.18.24~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
[13:18] <bekks> adaminsull: Whats the output of lsb_release -a ?
[13:18] <Filter_Select> n8w: Heya
[13:18] <adaminsull> -bash: lsb_release: command not found
[13:18] <ikonia> adaminsull: you are running macos
[13:18] <ikonia> adaminsull: as you know as your in #macos
[13:18] <bekks> adaminsull: Then you are not using Ubuntu...
[13:19] <ikonia> adaminsull: please stop messing around in this channel,
[13:19] <adaminsull> I AM NOT IT IS UNBUNTU SERVER
[13:19] <ikonia> adaminsull: then why does it have a darwin kernel
[13:19] <adaminsull> MAC LAPTOP WITH UBUNTU SERVER
[13:19] <wingy> Stanley00: grep was cool
[13:19] <adaminsull> I don't know
[13:19] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: the output of uname -a suggests you're booted into Mac OSX
[13:19] <adaminsull> But it is a ubuntu server
[13:19] <defekt> !caps | adaminsull
[13:19] <ikonia> adaminsull: and why are you trying to install lenny which is debian
[13:19] <maslo> how safe is it to log into a server through ssh in a public wifi spot? and how can I make it more secure?
[13:19] <ikonia> adaminsull: right, so it's not an ubuntu install
[13:19] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: it's not an Ubuntu server, because it's not running Ubuntu
[13:20] <gordonjcp> maslo: incredibly safe
[13:20] <adaminsull> I am but I am using mac terminal to ssh in
[13:20] <ikonia> adaminsull: you are not the ubuntu server
[13:20] <yeats> adaminsull: you're using the Mac terminal to run the 'lsb_release' and 'uname -a' commands
[13:20] <ikonia> adaminsull: you are on the mac
[13:20] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: okay, so you need to be typing those commands into the ssh terminal, then
[13:20] <adaminsull> ikonia: Yes but my server is on ubuntu
[13:20] <adaminsull> gordonjcp: I did
[13:20] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: it's an easy mistake to make.  Don't do it with "shutdown -t now"
[13:20] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: you didn't
[13:20] <ikonia> adaminsull: yes, but you are not typing those command on the server
[13:21] <adaminsull> ikonia: I DID
[13:21] <bekks> adaminsull: You did not.
[13:21] <ikonia> adaminsull: please stop
[13:21] <yeats> adaminsull: listen to us
[13:21] <adaminsull> I did
[13:21] <adaminsull> oh sorry
[13:21] <ikonia> adaminsull: the kernel you have just shown us is a mac kernel
[13:21] <adaminsull> my mistake :/
[13:21] <adaminsull> forgot
[13:21] <ikonia> adaminsull: stop arguing, and start listening
[13:21] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: you're a welly, aren't you?
[13:21] <adaminsull> I made a mistake
[13:21] <adaminsull> lol
[13:21] <maslo> gordonjcp: are you being sarcastic? can anything important get sniffed out/used against you?
[13:21] <n8w> im lookin for a tool like mpstat which shows real time cpu utilization...no top,htop etc
[13:21] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: now start listening, we know what we're doing
[13:21] <adaminsull> forgot to do the ssh
[13:21] <gordonjcp> maslo: no, that's the whole point of ssh
[13:21] <n8w> any ideas?
[13:21] <ikonia> adaminsull: we know, we told you
[13:22] <defekt> so much love
[13:22] <bekks> n8w: mpstat does a lot- but it does NOT show you real time CPU statistics.
[13:22] <adaminsull> Linux zxdhfdai 2.6.18-308.el5.028stab099.3 #1 SMP Wed Mar 7 15:56:00 MSK 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[13:22] <gordonjcp> maslo: I guess it's possible, but non-trivial
[13:22] <ikonia> adaminsull: that is redhat
[13:22] <adaminsull> what?
[13:22] <ikonia> adaminsull: that is a redhat kernel
[13:22] <n8w> bekks:  ye...it shows some weird cpu avg
[13:22] <adaminsull> oh ok
[13:22] <ikonia> adaminsull: I suspect this is a VPS
[13:22] <adaminsull> yes
[13:22] <gordonjcp> maslo: you know when you connect to a server for the first time, it asks you to verify the key fingerprint?
[13:22] <ikonia> adaminsull: then it's not ubuntu
[13:22] <maslo> gordonjcp: yes
[13:22] <InspectorCluseau> n8w, gkrellm?
[13:22] <gordonjcp> maslo: if you ssh from some "untrusted" connection and it asks you *again* to verify the fingerprint, it may be that someone is up to no good
[13:23] <bekks> n8w: It calculates statistics from the momemt you turned on the computer, no realtime at all.
[13:23] <adaminsull> ikonia: It's running ubuntu
[13:23] <adaminsull> linux
[13:23] <ikonia> adaminsull: no, it's not
[13:23] <adaminsull> then what is it running
[13:23] <ikonia> adaminsull: it's a bastardised version from your virtual VPS providere
[13:23] <ikonia> adaminsull: that is a redhat kernel
[13:23] <bekks> adaminsull: Redhat....
[13:23] <adaminsull> but it's linux
[13:23] <gordonjcp> adaminsull: different version though
[13:23] <n8w> InspectorCluseau:  hmm i would prefer cmd tool
[13:23] <bekks> adaminsull: But no Ubuntu.
[13:23] <ikonia> adaminsull: it's not ubuntu
[13:23] <topper4125> Yes... but windows 95, is not Windows 8... Redhat Linux is NOT Ubuntu
[13:24] <adaminsull> then how do I fix it
[13:24] <yeats> adaminsull: sounds like you need to take this up with them - I remember trying to help you last Saturday with this - looks like there are custom APT sources too
[13:24] <ikonia> adaminsull: ask your vps provider
[13:24] <bekks> adaminsull: You cant fix it.
[13:24] <ikonia> adaminsull: the distro they have used will be their custom setup
[13:24] <defekt> !distro | adaminsull
[13:24] <adaminsull> \?
[13:24] <ikonia> adaminsull: what's not clear ?
[13:24] <bekks> adaminsull: You cant change the distro your VPS provider used.
[13:24] <n8w> InspectorCluseau:  smth like mpstat...i need to end up with a single number for cpu usage which can then b further used in scripts
[13:25] <maslo> gordonjcp: well I'm just worried to have my root or main username leaked through sniffing because I haven,T used ssh that much, I'm a programmer and I have made multiplayer games so i understand how connection works between clients and server i just wanna make sure it is secure enought o just log in at a public wi-fi and that what is being sniffed can,T be cracked easily through bruteforce
[13:25] <adaminsull> All of it as it's on linux ubuntu
[13:25] <ikonia> adaminsull: it's not
[13:25] <bekks> adaminsull: It isnt Ubuntu.
[13:25] <yeats> adaminsull: we know what we're talking about
[13:25] <adaminsull> BUT IT SAYS
[13:25] <bekks> adaminsull: DONT SHOUT PLEASE
[13:25] <adaminsull> lol
[13:25] <ikonia> adaminsull: your VPS provider has made a custom distirubtion based on it's hosting platform, using a redhat kernel and debian/ubuntu components
[13:25] <topper4125> do you have physical access to the server?
[13:25] <defekt> maslo: ssh wont be sniffed
[13:25] <adaminsull> I use ssh
[13:25] <ikonia> adaminsull: your hosting provider is the right support resource
[13:25] <adaminsull> :/
[13:25] <bekks> topper4125: No, he hasnt.
[13:26] <JuJuBee> I am getting ready to upgrade to 12.10.  I downloaded the dvd and burned to disc.  WHen I boot from it I get really bad display. http://tinypic.com/r/977byc/6  & http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6sumtu&s=6 both are flickering and moving .  I redownloaded the image and tried using a Flash Drive to install but get same problem.  Any thoughts?
[13:26] <topper4125> just wanted to be sure... I know people that SSH into servers that are right behind them physically because the server has no monitor or KB...
[13:26] <maslo> defekt: ok thank you for reassuring me, I wanted to make a user on my vps and have it access to nothing so that even if it gets leaked little to no damage can be doen but if ssh is that secure I don,t think I'll have to
[13:27] <defekt> maslo: ssh can be bruteforced, just make sure you use a "secure" password
[13:27] <bekks> JuJuBee: You dont need to download and burn something for updating your Ubuntu.
[13:27] <InspectorCluseau> n8w, you want usage for a particular process?
[13:27] <gordonjcp> maslo: don't ssh as root, ever
[13:27] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, I'm looking for a program that will help me to basically cat a text file and echo URLs found in the text file to another file.  Is there a program that does this or should I struggle with creating an awk/grep/sed/print/echo string?
[13:27] <ikonia> JuJuBee: can you boot it using the safe graphics mode ?
[13:27] <bekks> SpecialEd: "grep" and ">"
[13:27] <JuJuBee> bekks: I always do fresh intsall
[13:27] <n8w> InspectorCluseau:  nope, for all processes n all cpu's
[13:27] <maslo> gordonjcp: I know
[13:27] <gordonjcp> maslo: and unless someone is *really* keen to get your password or ssh key, it's safe enough
[13:27] <yeats> SpecialEd: you should ask in #bash
[13:27] <bekks> JuJuBee: Thats no upgrade then. :)
[13:27] <gordonjcp> maslo: if someone wants your password that badly, they won't sniff ssh to get it
[13:27] <n8w> InspectorCluseau:  n smth that has output like mpstat or vmstat
[13:28] <JuJuBee> ikonia: how?
[13:28] <bekks> SpecialEd: grep http yourfilename > yoursecondfilename
[13:28] <gordonjcp> maslo: if some nefarious organisation wants your password *that* badly, they'll bundle you into the back of a van and set off for a disused industrial estate somewhere
[13:28] <JuJuBee> bekks: technically you are correct, but I have been burned using the updater to upgrade
[13:28] <gordonjcp> maslo: I mean, if *I* wanted your password that badly, that's how I'd go about it
[13:28] <SpecialEd> Beeks: Can I pm you?
[13:29] <defekt> gordonjcp: hehe hurm 4096 encrytion ... nothing a $5 spanner cant fix!
[13:29] <SpecialEd> beeks: nevermind ur second response nailed it for me in my head, im good thanks:) will try now
[13:29] <savio> !capability
[13:29] <savio> !setcap
[13:29] <bazhang> savio, /msg ubottu
[13:30] <savio> bazhang, what?
[13:30] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I never get the list of choices (at least that I can read).
[13:30] <bazhang> savio, /msg ubottu      <----- do that
[13:30] <defekt> savio: please /msg ubottu  with your comands
[13:30] <ikonia> JuJuBee: so it's not even booting that far
[13:30] <bekks> JuJuBee: Then its no reinstallk
[13:30] <JuJuBee> Nope
[13:30] <bekks> JuJuBee: Then its no reinstall but an upgrade whoi
[13:30] <maslo> gordonjcp; lol I don't know how easy it would be to pick up someone in a van at a public spot and i don't think anyone is ever goign to want my password THAT much, the vps is mainly used as an apache server for 2 -4websitse so i know lots of people would do anthing to deface websites/find vuln, I'm just trying to be careful
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> savio  try factoids by using /msg ubottu
[13:31] <bekks> JuJuBee: Then its no reinstall but an upgrade which you dont need to download and burn something for.
[13:31] <gordonjcp> maslo: yeah, there you go then
[13:31] <savio> MonkeyDust, defekt bazhang got it
[13:31] <maslo> I had them hosted by a friend before on his dedicated server but...things got complicated and our 8 years old friendship is over, I bought a vps and transferred everythign to it and even though i've been programming for 7 years I never really touched linux so i'm just lost in general but I'm getting through with it
[13:32] <defekt> !botsnack
[13:33] <sadec> I'm want register
[13:33] <JuJuBee> bekks: it's also NOT a turkey on the thanksgiving table.
[13:34] <defekt> !nickserv | sadec
[13:35] <InspectorCluseau> n8w, This help? http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/03/sar-examples/
[13:36] <sadec> !nickserv | sadec
[13:36] <adaminsull> But it's saying it's using the linux kernel
[13:37] <bazhang> adaminsull, so ask in ##linux
[13:37] <adaminsull> ok
[13:37] <n8w> InspectorCluseau:  ye i know about sar, but it also returns this weird avg% which is not the real time copu utilization
[13:37] <bazhang> sadec, /join #freenode for help
[13:39] <n8w> InspectorCluseau:  its the same as mpstat...it keeps showin 90% idle while all cpus r utilized 100%
[13:40] <bekks> n8w: sar displays realtime stats, mpstat does not.
[13:40] <bekks> n8w: Dont count on the output of mpstat at all.
[13:41] <Seus> Question: I've set AllowRootLogin to no in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file on my host computer, yet when I do ssh root@mydomain.com from my client system, it still asks for the password for the root user. Is this the normal behavior?
[13:42] <Seus> Shouldn't it say that the user doesn't exist or something?
[13:42] <bekks> Seus: The root user exists. NEVER use root for ssh.
[13:42] <exalt> can anyone tell me what im doing wrong ? http://pastebin.com/kUUxiZPN
[13:43] <Seus> i realize that bekks. I'm trying to make sure its disabled
[13:43] <ikonia> exalt: man chroot - you've not got the ability to execute /bin/bash in your chroot - probably because it's linked to a path outside the chroot (libraries)
[13:43] <bekks> Seus: It IS disabled, since root has no password set at all.
[13:43] <Seus> but when i go and test it by seeing if i can login with root from ssh, it still asks me for the root password even though i set the appropriate part in the sshd_config file to no
[13:43] <handuel> out of interest does the root user actually have a password (I don't plan to use it), but i've only ever gained root access using sudo
[13:43] <Seus> ah i gotcha
[13:44] <exalt> ikonia, it worked from that precise path yesterday also
[13:44] <ikonia> exalt: then look at why /bin/bash is unavalable in your chroot
[13:44] <kvarley> Anybody know how I can make my Atheros AR9462 wifi work?
[13:44] <exalt> ikonia, how can i do that ?
[13:45] <ikonia> exalt: check what I just told you
[13:45] <b4d_tR1p> hi guys!
[13:45] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs   kvarley have a read
[13:45] <maslo> gordonjcp, defekt: thank you for the help I appreciate it
[13:46] <adaminsull> Actually it is ubuntu
[13:46] <adaminsull> No LSB modules are available.
[13:46] <adaminsull> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[13:46] <adaminsull> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[13:46] <adaminsull> Release:	12.04
[13:46] <adaminsull> Codename:	precise
[13:46] <FloodBot1> adaminsull: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <ikonia> adaminsull: stop
[13:46] <bazhang> adaminsull, no its not
[13:46] <adaminsull> ?
[13:46] <ikonia> adaminsull: I have explained to you what to do
[13:46] <adaminsull> It says there
[13:46] <Adie> :/
[13:46] <bazhang> adaminsull, custom setup with a redhat kernel. thats not ubuntu
[13:46] <ikonia> adaminsull: it has a redhat kernel - it is a custom build by your VPS provider
[13:46] <ikonia> adaminsull: contact your VPS provider
[13:46] <adaminsull> I am in #linux they sent me here
[13:46] <Adie> how am I able to tell when an update/install is done on ubuntu?
[13:46] <ikonia> adaminsull: contact your VPS provider
[13:47] <Adie> I installed something big big via SSH, but closed the window
[13:47] <Blkrdo> Kvarley: atheros is suported by linux,it shouldnt be much dificult
[13:47] <Blkrdo> Kvarley: what are you actualy facing with?
[13:47] <adaminsull> I did
[13:48] <kvarley> Blkrdo: Won't show me any wifi hotspots in the network manager.
[13:48] <kvarley> Blkrdo: On 12.04 I got disconnected randomly
[13:48] <JuJuBee> ikonia: any suggestions?
[13:48] <ikonia> JuJuBee: not at this time
[13:48] <looonger> hey, how is that possible that my internet connection is faster with networkmanager than with wicd?
[13:48] <Ascavasaion> howcome I cannot change the screensaver when running gnome-screensaver?
[13:49] <sadec> hey all
[13:52] <n8w> bekks:  ye mpstat seems to b weird
[13:52] <n8w> bekks:  well im not sure about sar either...
[13:52] <Blkrdo> Kvarley: 12.04 is buggy! Tried updating the drivers? Madwifi?
[13:53] <JeffBauer> hi guys, my notebook is a mess after i upgraded it to 12.04. I've found out that wlan0 is now eth1, and i can't authenticate into my wireless router with wpa/wpa2
[13:53] <bekks> n8w: I am not sure, I know it, about sar :)
[13:54] <n8w> bekks:  ok:)...well then tell me why the output of sar does not correspond to the output of htop(regardin CPU usage)
[13:54] <bekks> n8w: Because htop is no realtime tool, while sar is.
[13:56] <kvarley1> In 12.10 how do I stop bluetooth running everytime I start a new session?
[13:56] <exalt> ikonia, .... http://pastebin.com/gr92SaHs ^^
[13:57] <ikonia> exalt: why are you showing me that ?
[13:57] <Stanley00> kvarley1: click turn off bluetooth doesn't work?
[13:57] <n8w> bekks:  hmm i guess it depends on your interpretation of a realtime tool
[13:57] <kvarley1> Stanley00: It works but as soon as I reboot it enables it again
[13:57] <reindeernix> kvarley1: Go into startup applications and I believe you can see everything that starts up
[13:58] <exalt> ikonia, well because i fixed my problem
[13:58] <ikonia> exalt: great
[13:58] <kvarley1> reindeernix: It only shows apps I've installed (Samsung Tools, System Load Indicator)
[13:58] <JeffBauer> please guys, i can't authenticate into my wireless network :(
[13:59] <bekks> n8w: htop might be handy, but I wonr rely on it. On sar, I would,
[13:59] <reindeernix> kvarley1: If I remember correctly you can make it show everything somehow
[13:59] <dr_willis> JeffBauer:  i would test with a 12.10 live cd. see if it works there
[14:00] <dr_willis> kvarley1:  /etc/xdg/autostart/  has stuff you may want to move/remove  from the default sessions
[14:00] <reindeernix> kvarley1: I found a solution to your problem here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/131684/how-to-boot-with-bluetooth-turned-off :)
[14:00] <JeffBauer> dr_willis, it stopped working after i upgraded to 12.04. Now my wlan0 is reconized as eth1 and i can't authenticate
[14:01] <kvarley1> reindeernix: Thanks :)
[14:01] <reindeernix> kvarley1: No problem :)
[14:01] <dr_willis> wlan or eth0 is handled by the drivers. so shouldent matter.
[14:01] <dr_willis> JeffBauer:  i would still test with a 12.10 live cd to see if it works on a default setup
[14:08] <kvarley1>  reindeernix: Found a command on howtogeek.com to show all, disabled it :) thanks for the help
[14:08] <reindeernix> kvarley1: You're welcome :D
[14:14] <HFCODER> what is this?
[14:14] <dr_willis> whats what>?
[14:14] <dr_willis> !ubuntu
[14:14] <HFCODER> #ubuntu
[14:14] <mithran> cant upgrade my ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/1347871/
[14:15] <HFCODER> mithran... do you have internet connection ok?
[14:18] <JoshuaP> How do I SSH with protocal v1?
[14:18] <dr_willis> -1      Forces ssh to try protocol version 1 only.
[14:18] <dr_willis> from man ssh ;)
[14:20] <chgurusky> ping ubuntu, what does http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline use for? can I rebuild the 3.6.6 kernel on my ubuntu 12.04?
[14:23] <defekt> lol sounds like yoda
[14:23] <defekt> Hurmm .. ping ubuntu , what does
[14:25] <gaetano> #compiz
[14:26] <Brustofski-Fan> Installed ubuntu 12.10 gnome shell remix lastnight. Had trouble getting ATI driver working.. So install ubuntu desktop. To see what unity would do.It was just loging to a blank desktop with no panel.. Now i got ATI going how do i remove everything ubuntu desktop installed?
[14:26] <chgurusky> Hidefekt, just wants to find someone who can kindly tell me what is http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline, i'm a newbie here..
[14:27] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: what do you mean ubuntu desktop releated ?
[14:27] <defekt> Brustofski-Fan: apt-get --purge?
[14:28] <Brustofski-Fan> ikonia, yes.. unity and all that... just want what gnome remix came with
[14:28] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: they are both build on the same libraries, so the core difference is unity/gnome-shell the rest should be the same
[14:29] <Brustofski-Fan> ikonia, yes.. but ubuntu desktop installed a lot more then just unity
[14:29] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: if you look at the meta-package you can see the packages it installs, just remove them
[14:30] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: the basics are the same, gnome 3 library set, with either gnome shell or unity on top
[14:30] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: may I offer you a suggestion
[14:30] <Brustofski-Fan> whats that
[14:31] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: before you start removing things, change your xorg config to use the vesa drivers to get a display up - from there you can investigate the problems with the ati setup and move forward
[14:32] <Brustofski-Fan> already got ati working
[14:32] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: so what's the problem then ?
[14:32] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: (apologies if I've miss-understood what you tried to explain)
[14:33] <jrib> Brustofski-Fan: if i understand correctyl, you installed ubuntu-desktop to troubleshoot and now want to remove it and everything it brought since you've solved your original ati issue.  Is that right?
[14:34] <Brustofski-Fan> ikonia, installed ubuntu 12.10 gnome shell remix.. when i had trouble geting ati working installed ubuntu-desktop. Now i want to remove everything ubuntu-desktop installed to get back to a default install
[14:35] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: ok, query the ubuntu desktop metapackage and remove it's packages
[14:35] <Brustofski-Fan> jrib, right
[14:35] <jrib> Brustofski-Fan: in theory you should be able to remove the ubuntu-desktop package and then use « sudo apt-get autoremove ».  If that doesn't work, then just do as ikonia says
[14:36] <Brustofski-Fan> ikonia, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop is just removing that 1 package
[14:36] <ikonia> Brustofski-Fan: i konw, that's not what I told you to do
[14:40] <samara2> someday I will learn linux
[14:40] <Brustofski-Fan> how do i query it
[14:44] <thanigai> 0644:0000 TEAC Corp.  Floppy
[14:44] <thanigai>  not open
[14:46] <slickvik> is 12.04.2 update going to have some of the 12.10 updates
[14:46] <slickvik> ?
[14:46] <slickvik> like webapps
[14:46] <bekks> slickvik: Most likely no.
[14:46] <slickvik> well then
[14:47] <slickvik> because 12.10 is just so buggy with my acer laptop
[14:47] <slickvik> I think it's the kernal 3.5
[14:47] <bekks> slickvik: Then stay with 12.04, for five years.
[14:47] <slickvik> or until the next lts
[14:49] <Brustofski-Fan> slickvik, once a ati going everthing works fine
[14:50] <vik> ati?
[14:52] <Brustofski-Fan> vik, ati video driver... ( fglrx )   when i install gnome shell remix.. after install had to boot nomodeset acpi=off
[14:55] <cal_> how do i nest paramaters in a script? ie .. exec /sbin/getty -n -l "/usr/sbin/iptraf -d 0 -f" -8 38400 tty1
[14:55] <bekks> cal_: ' instead "
[14:56] <cal_> ahh, thx
[14:56] <bekks> GNA. ` instead "
[14:56] <cal_> lol. is it ' or `
[14:56] <bekks> It is`
[14:56] <cal_> ok
[14:59] <maxbit> hy
[15:00] <beaky> hello
[15:00] <maxbit> can some one tell me how i get right include for i2c-dev.h on ubuntu server(omap4)
[15:00] <beaky> how do I get newer packages in ubuntu?
[15:01] <beaky> I want the latest texlive distribution and the newest compilers
[15:01] <cal_> exec /sbin/getty -n -l `/usr/sbin/iptraf -d 0 -f` -8 38400 tty1
[15:01] <cal_> doesnt seem to work
[15:02] <yu> my statrdic can not speak
[15:02] <cal_> this works but then i can't pass iptraf any parms : exec /sbin/getty -n -l /usr/sbin/iptraf -8 38400 tty1
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> beaky  if you want something newer than what's in the repos, you need a ppa or so, but that's not supprted here
[15:02] <beaky> ah
[15:05] <maxbit> can some one tell me on where i find right include for i2c-dev.h? seems like the file i found on /usr/include/linux/ is not complete the i2c_smbus_xx functions are missed there.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !locate i2c-dev.h?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !find i2c-dev.h
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> maxbit: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=i2c-dev.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=quantal&arch=any    shows the locations
[15:08] <Wezel>  Does anyone know of a good free network diagram software preferably for linux??
[15:08] <bekks> Wezel: inkscape?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Wezel: do you mean of the network you are in, or one to design networks with?
[15:09] <Wezel> One to desing one with, it doesnt have to be too complicated it for young students
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Wezel: dia maybe
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Wezel: seeing lots of folks saying inkscape like bekkssuggested
[15:11] <maxbit> k only location i can find it is on /usr/include/linux but if look at it with nano the function prototypes are missed there !?
[15:12] <w3p5t3r> join #ubuntu
[15:13] <w3p5t3r> is it possible? sudo make install && reboot && lsusb
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> w3p5t3r  the command is shutdown -r now and it won't remember the lsusb, if you tried it the way you suggest
[15:15] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust +1
[15:16] <w3p5t3r> thx
[15:16] <w3p5t3r> but autostart a terminal with command is not possible
[15:17] <w3p5t3r> ?
[15:17] <maxbit> k only location i can find it is on /usr/include/linux but if look at it with nano the function prototypes are missed there !? could it be that there is some thing wrong in some packages?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> w3p5t3r: doesn't reboot need sudo too?
[15:20] <w3p5t3r> dont know ^^ i thonk only about the chain command function
[15:20] <w3p5t3r> think
[15:20] <OerHeks> w3p5t3r, sure, add terminal to startup applications, command is gnome-terminal
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> w3p5t3r: I recommend guake if you use terminal a lot
[15:21] <tgary> Hi! When I try running vncviewer (tightvnc), I get "Too many authentication failures". How can I solve this? (I own the server too.)
[15:21] <w3p5t3r> not much...but i learn about ^
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> tgary: what are you wanting to do on the server once you get connected?
[15:21] <jrib> in 12.10, what program must I run (from the terminal) to configure gnome-screensaver settings?  i.e. how do I choose what my screensaver is?
[15:22] <ikonia> jrib: does it even come with one
[15:22] <ikonia> jrib: gnome-3 in general doesn't seem to like the idea of a screensaver
[15:22] <jrib> ikonia: I think it used to be in appearance properties?
[15:22] <jrib> ikonia: oh
[15:22] <DJones> jrib: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986262
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> jrib: use this http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-activate-screen-saver-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[15:23] <ikonia> jrib: I've had this issue on Fedora also, I tried to link x-screensaver back in with intereting results
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> jrib: you can install a screensaver using that
[15:23] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: that's 11.10 it works different on gnome-3
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: still the same packages exist, 11.10 also uses Gnome3
[15:23] <tgary> ActionParsnip: I mean vncviewer doesn't ask for password, it just prints this error. I can read it in the vnc log also. But I can ssh into the server: can I reset vncserver to ask the client for password?
[15:23] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry, 11.04 was the last non-true gnome 3 build
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> tgary: ok, but what are you wanting to use VNC toachieve
[15:24] <jrib> my real question: glslideshow (which is what xscreensaver provides for a picture slideshow) has a documented (in its source code) glitch that causes it to stutter so I was wondering if gnome-screensaver had some sort of picture slideshow that was not glslideshow
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> tgary: 9 times in 10 there is a sleeker solution for what people use VNC for
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: no worries dude :)
[15:25] <ikonia> jrib: I don't believe gnome-screensaver has anything of value any more reading what the dev's think of using a screen saver
[15:25] <w3p5t3r> ActionParsnip: for tunneling limeted proxy ports?
[15:27] <tgary> ActionParsnip: I run a vncserver on a remote host, and I want to view its screen. (This case I run a remote X, which I want to use for long running tasks. screen is not graphical, X forwarding requires the client to run as well.)
[15:27] <jrib> ikonia: ah ok.  Thanks.  Thank you ActionParsnip as well
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> tgary: gotcha, its not something I use but I like to suggest alternatives :)
[15:28] <tgary> ActionParsnip: Sorry, this is a runnig config. Only "others" tried to guess the vncpassword many times without success. But now the server rejects every try -including mine.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> tgary: tried setting a new password?
[15:31] <exalt> hi im looking at the installation logs of an old machine, can anyone explain the time difference in it ? http://pastebin.com/TqkYeLMk
[15:32] <exalt> from 2010-12-30 07:40:38  to 2010-12-30 07:40:41
[15:33] <jleon> @find Fairy Tail 156
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> exalt: there were a lot of acrhives to unpack......
[15:34] <tgary> ActionParsnip: Yes, no success with changing the password.
[15:34] <Linkandzelda> hello, what was the program called that lets me monitor my line in ports and play them over the speakers?
[15:35] <z3r0pr0f1t> Linkandzelda, JACK Audio maybe?
[15:35] <nabblet> hi, i installed xubuntu on my laptop. i cant use wifi because it says "wireless disabled by hardware switch" -  i tried rfkill ublock as suggested in many forums, but i does not help. i have a w-lan button, but it is not recognized by windows. what can i do?
[15:35] <Linkandzelda> z3r0pr0f1t: will look it up
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: does the system have a make and model?
[15:36] <exalt> ActionParsnip, did it take that long in those times ?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: do you dual boot the system?
[15:36] <bekks> exalt: yes.
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> exalt: if there are lots of updates then yes it can
[15:37] <exalt> ActionParsnip, its back in time... ?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> exalt: didn't the clocks change?
[15:38] <rocky> say hello and go to bed...
[15:39] <bekks> exalt: Thats switch from 12:.. to 7:.. was most likely caused by NTP.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> exalt: in autumn, the clocks go back an hour
[15:40] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, it is a noname cytron from TCM... it was win XP before but xp was unusable so its ubuntu only
[15:40] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, when i press the wireless key, i get unknow key notions on dmesg
[15:41] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, hi, did i just disconnect? did i miss something?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: is it a hard switch or a shortcut on the keyboard?
[15:42] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, it is an extra key
[15:42] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, it is a button, not an on-off switch
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: if you run:   xev     and press the key, does it make an event?
[15:43] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, no
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: may be why then.
[15:44] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, ?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: is there an option in BIOS to set the state of the wifi at bootup?
[15:44] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, only to off or last state :P
[15:44] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, nice, huh ?
[15:45] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, maybe when pressing the button during boot up, it might get through
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: if the OS is not reacting to the button press, then you pressing the wifi switch is doing nothing.....think about it. The OS is not getting an event when the button is pressed
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: worth a try
[15:45] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, but on the other hand... i see messages in dmesg if the button is pressed
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: gotcha, that's good. Does it say that it switched back off?
[15:46] <kamal_> hii
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: what wifi chip do you use?
[15:46] <daidai> my amule receives low id,and can not download
[15:47] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, i only get the dmesg - but noting seems to change
[15:47] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, let me try to verify with iwlist, iwconfig und ifconfig
[15:48] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, lspci shows Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg (rev 01)
[15:48] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up results in a complaint about rf-kill
[15:48] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, but as i said, i can only remove the soft blcok but not the hard block
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan     do you see wireless networks?
[15:49] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: try:   sudo ifup wlan0
[15:50] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[15:50] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, ifconfig only lists eth0 and lo
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: if you unload then reload the kernel module, does it help?
[15:50] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, but iwconfig list wlan0 eth0 and lo
[15:51] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, would that be the same as restarting?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: no, you want to unload and then reload the module in the running OS
[15:52] <OerHeks> daidai we can't help you with edonkey-network problems.
[15:54] <daidai> OerHeks:i am trying to find solution on their website
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> daidai: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/amule-low-id-348533/
[15:55] <Inoki> Yo lads, anybody having issues with Skype login?
[15:55] <YokoBR> dudes, please, save my life for the grace of god, i can't enable my wireless broadcom 4313 driver
[15:55] <daidai> ActionParsnip:thanks
[15:56] <tgary> ActionParsnip: Anyway, thaks the help. As a last chance, I'll kill the vnc server and restart.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> daidai: I don't even use edonkey, or know what the error means
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> daidai: I just searched and found that
[15:56] <OerHeks> low id = not sharing back
[15:57] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, this may take time - lots of dependicies
[15:57] <h00k> YokoBR: can you give us some more information - what version are you running? Can you open a terminal and type 'uname -r' to tell us kernel version?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: for a network driver, shouldn't be
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: you did run:   sudo lshw -C network      to see the driver name?
[15:58] <YokoBR> h00k, ubuntu 12.04, hp g42, broadcom 4313 wireless PCI id 14e4:4727
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Inoki: let me test
[15:59] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, no - just did now: driver=rt2500pci
[16:00] <Inoki> ActionParsnip: I figured now, thanks. It was my IP Blocker blocking MS IPs :D
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Inoki: yeah, works ok here in raring
[16:01] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, but if i do modinfo rt2500pci i get depends:        rt2x00lib,rt2x00pci,eeprom_93cx6 - and then it tickles down
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: oh thats nasty
[16:02] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, but maybeit worls if i only rmmod rt2500pci ? lemme try
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563547&page=51
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: seems you need to blacklist the rt2500pci driver
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: echo "blacklist rt2500pci" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: reboot to test
[16:05] <max1> Umm hello. I use it (IRC chat) first time and came for little help on Ubuntu. Can somebody please help?
[16:05] <jrib> max1: sure, but we prefer if you just go ahead and ask the question; no need to ask for permission
[16:06] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, ok, i will try reboot with pressing the putton and then if that does not work, rebot after blacklist
[16:06] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, brb
[16:07] <max1> ok thnx. The question (the problem) is: When I restarted my Ubuntu a few minutes ago, I've noticed that I have whole Desktop missing (and there is nothing in /home/user/Desktop). What's the problem/ what should I do to get my Desktop back?
[16:07] <max1> My Unity runs ok. I use Ubuntu 12.04.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> max1: is nautilus running?
[16:08] <max1> just a sec
[16:09] <max1> Yeah Nautilus runs OK
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> max1: nautils draws the desktop icons
[16:09] <max1> no, it doesn't. And not only that - I cant even see them if i go straight to home/user/desktop
[16:10] <rymate1234> then you have none
[16:10] <max1> wowo
[16:10] <max1> it now does
[16:10] <jrib> max1: do you use (or have you ever used) a language other than english on your ubuntu?
[16:10] <Sietse_> Hey, I have a question. I have 8GiB RAM installed in my machine, but Ubuntu says in the system monitor 7.7GiB. Where did my 0.3GiB go to? I don't use my integrated graphics. (It is not really a problem, but more a question)
[16:11] <max1> Yes i did. It was russian. I DID confirm to rename folders in home.
[16:11] <jrib> max1: pastebin your ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[16:11] <max1> but becoz u asked now ive spotted that they have changed back to russian
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Sietse_: you will have slightly less due to base 2 numbers
[16:11] <jrib> max1: ok
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Sietse_: its like an 80Gb HDD is about 74Gb
[16:12] <Sietse_> I thought that ram was already base 2 numbers? And not 0-rounded
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Sietse_: if you have onboard video then it may be using 256Mb for itself
[16:12] <fermulator> Trying to install Ubuntu Server 12, fails 75% of the way into base-install with error " "Unable to install busybox-initramfs""
[16:12] <max1> sorry but how can i access "~/" directory ?
[16:12] <Sietse_> ActionParsnip, I'll have to look in my BIOS then, because I use my dedicated card
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Sietse_: what is the output of:    free -m     please use a pastebin to host
[16:13] <Sietse_> http://pastebin.com/vwsAKWru
[16:13] <zykotick9> Sietse_: try just "free" vs "free -m" as well.  mine 4GB show 4061016 with free, and 3965 with the -m.
[16:13] <jrib> max1: ~ is just short for /home/username (or whatever your HOME is)
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Sietse_: 7919Mb RAM ....pretty close to me
[16:14] <Sietse_> ActionParsnip, zykotick9, 'free' shows 8109816
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Sietse_: free -m   is in megabytes (easier to read)
[16:16] <user_> ActionParsnip, ok, reboot and pressing the wlan button does not work. then i blacklisted and rebootetd. now wlan is not visible in iwlist
[16:16] <Sietse_> ActionParsnip, yeah but still. It shows more then 8000000kb there. But the system monitor says 7.7GiB.
[16:16] <user_> ActionParsnip, i can see the card in lspci
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Sietse_: maybe its a bug in the GUI app. I always trust free :)
[16:17] <max1> And what does mean pastbin that file?
[16:17] <max1> pastebin?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> user_: then remove the live you added and load the module
[16:17] <Sietse_> ActionParsnip, maybe, whatever, I don't need the 0.3GiB anyways. Was just wondering. Thanks :)
[16:17] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, sorry, for nick confusion
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Sietse_: no worries
[16:17] <h3llt1m3> k
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: no worries, i twigged on
[16:18] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, remove the live?
[16:18] <linux|newb> max1: http://pastebin.com to dump output and share without flooding
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: remove the line you add to the file, you will be back where you started
[16:18] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, ah, the line
[16:18] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, ok, will do, brb
[16:19] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, or maybe if i try to load it manually?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: try it
[16:19] <max1> http://pastebin.com/CJV4niak
[16:21] <max1> Oh man. I described the situation wrong. I have both English and Russian versions of folders in my /home/ folder, but the actual files are in Russian version.
[16:21] <linux|newb> max1: and you want them in English?
[16:22] <max1> I guess I want everything to be in English, yeah.
[16:22] <max1> should i just move 'em?
[16:22] <linux|newb> max1: got a screenie?
[16:23] <max1> what does screenie mean?
[16:23] <linux|newb> max1: not sure I fully follow...
[16:23] <dbattaglia> hello
[16:23] <linux|newb> max1: screenshot
[16:23] <max1> wait i ll make it
[16:23] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, no change. rfkill lsit says softblock no, hardblock yes
[16:23] <nabblet> *list
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: you may be able to use force with the unblock
[16:26] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, i don't understand
[16:28] <neutrino> hi!
[16:28] <neutrino> what is the current api for displaying text in gnome panel from python? i can't find any info on that
[16:29] <ben1066> Is there any way to use a precise ppa
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: rfkill doesn't have a force option, never mind
[16:29] <ben1066> on quantal?
[16:29] <ben1066> I need a newer llvm than is shipped
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: it snot advised or supported
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> !ppa > ben1066
[16:29] <max1> hello? i have made the screenshot how do i send it to you?
[16:30] <ben1066> My point is I can only find ppas for precise
[16:30] <ben1066> how can I make that install on quantal?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> max1  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[16:31] <linux|newb> max1: what MonkeyDust said
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> !info llvm
[16:31] <linux|newb> MonkeyDust: as in the BBC3 TV programme?
[16:31] <max1> http://imagebin.org/235358
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: what version do you desire?
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> linux|newb  yes, but on another channel here
[16:32] <ben1066> 3.1 or never
[16:32] <ben1066> newer*
[16:32] <ben1066> I can find llvm 3.1
[16:32] <ben1066> not clang
[16:32] <FloodBot1> ben1066: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <linux|newb> MonkeyDust: here being Belgium?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> linux|newb  correct
[16:33] <linux|newb> MonkeyDust: ...I didn't know we exported to Belgium. it's cool though, right?
[16:34] <jellostick> I can connect to my wifi on windows and it works fine.  On ubuntu, I can *connect* to it, but it never works.  I can't think of an obvious solution/problem.  Any ideas?
[16:35] <lunaphyte> jellostick: what have you tried so far?
[16:35] <linux|newb> max1: what did you do to creat the russian folders in the first place?
[16:36] <linux|newb> max1: you installed Ubuntu in Russian and then changed after install complete?
[16:36] <max1> I had UBuntu installed as Russian.
[16:36] <max1> Yes, what you ve said
[16:36] <wen234> anyone know how to use libreoffice to create a chart from data. Like count all the F and M in a column and put into a chart
[16:36] <max1> But it worked ok till now
[16:36] <max1> for two days it worked ok
[16:36] <jellostick> lunaphyte: nothing, really.  i mean, (on ubuntu) I can connect to my school's wifi and use it.  So far it just seems to be my apartment's wifi.
[16:37] <jellostick> It's like the signal is weaker to ubuntu than windows
[16:37] <lunaphyte> jellostick: you should spend some time troubleshooting it.
[16:37] <jellostick> lunaphyte: what can I do?
[16:37] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, just on this page http://paste.ubuntu.com/1348238/ it says i should dmesg | egrep 'radio|kill|switch' wich returns me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1348238/
[16:37] <Random832> max1: what is the problem exactly
[16:37] <lunaphyte> jellostick: is an address assigned?
[16:37] <jellostick> lunaphyte: yes
[16:37] <nabblet> ActionParsnip, it also mentions that some hw-switch only work before any os booted
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/nvidia-quantal; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install llvm-3.1       then remove the PPA manually
[16:38] <lunaphyte> jellostick: can you ping the gateway?
[16:38] <max1> that i dont have anything shown on my desktop
[16:38] <jellostick> lunaphyte: i'll try.  im going to reboot into ubuntu.  i'll be back here on my phone
[16:38] <max1> i guess i have to move everything to english folder, right?
[16:38] <Random832> max1: what does 'xdg-user-dirs DESKTOP' print?
[16:38] <linux|newb> max1: ...that's the most obvious approach but not the most effective
[16:38] <linux|newb> max1: however, I have no alternatives
[16:39] <max1> can you hold for 5-10 mins pls/
[16:39] <max1> ?
[16:40] <linux|newb> max1: sure. out of interest. if you're from the CR why did you install in Russian in the first place? or is that an ignorant question?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: installing ok?
[16:41] <ben1066> I just compiled it from source, that appeared to be easier :)
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: just found a second PPA
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: https://launchpad.net/~noobslab/+archive/nvidia-testing?field.series_filter=quantal
[16:41] <neutrino> what is the current api for displaying text in gnome panel from python? i can't find any info on that. it seems like every applet i can find that does that uses gnomeapplet which has been deprecated and removed over a year ago.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=llvm    is all I used, I looked at all the PPAs and found that
[16:42] <neutrino> sorry, i shouldn't be up+entering but it's just so inviting
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: how is adding a PPA via a command I GAVE YOU. then installing the package not as easy as compiling?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: how do you figure compiling is easier than a packaged?
[16:43] <ben1066> I couldnt find a clang 3.1 package
[16:43] <ben1066> I found llvm
[16:44] <jellostick> well, i upgraded network-manager and now it works fine :P
[16:44] <jellostick> lunaphyte: so thanks :P
[16:44] <halo> selam
[16:44] <lunaphyte> jellostick: heh.  go deal
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> ben1066: try the link i gave, you can search all PPAs there
[16:44] <lunaphyte> *good deal
[16:49] <spacebarbarian> i have a weird dns issue, I can ping 8.8.8.8 fine but for some reason dig is not able to resolve anything with that dns server http://pastebin.com/MNA38xX0
[16:51] <hikenboot> hello i just want to make sure I am not making a really dumb mistake when i do an ls -al it shopws permissions followed by owner and then group is that correct? or is it permissions followed by group then owner? man ls doesnt seem to say
[16:52] <hikenboot> also with permissions is the effective permissions the least restrictive or most restrictive of the owner or group?
[16:52] <subman> I'm trying to use Pidgin to connect to a jabber server but I keep getting the error "Server does not use any supported authentication method".  Running on Ubuntu 12.04 and Pidgin version 2.10.3
[16:52] <rocky> i have an sdcard that i use to store my music and stick in various android devices... i want to sync my rhythmbox music onto that sdcard (including all playlist definitions), is there anything special i need to do because as it stands the playlists don't get copied over (just all songs)
[16:55] <greenit> hi, i have a problem: the menus and buttons have a light-grey text and white background... how can i fix this? i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10
[16:55] <rudivs> which openjdk should I use these days - 6 or 7?
[16:55] <greenit> rudivs, i would choose 7
[16:58] <rudivs> tks greenit
[16:59] <llutz> hikenboot: ls shows permissions "owner, group, others"
[16:59] <greenit> hikenboot, if you type "ls -al" you see the permissions, not ls alone
[16:59] <TomSlominski> Hi. I've got some external drives that mount themselves in /media/tom. How do I give myself the permissions to write to all of these drives in /media/tom? Should I just chown it recursively?
[16:59] <hikenboot> llutz I realize that but the groups and owner are listed as well ..which comes first?
[16:59] <ikonia> TomSlominski: what file system is on them ?
[17:00] <TomSlominski> ikonia: I've got one ext4 and one NTFS
[17:00] <llutz> hikenboot: ls shows permissions in this order "owner, group, others"
[17:00] <TomSlominski> ikonia, the NTFS seems alright
[17:00] <ikonia> TomSlominski: so the ntfs one you need to chown and chmod to match your neeeds
[17:00] <ikonia> TomSlominski: the ntfs one should be fine
[17:00] <llutz> hikenboot: ls shows permissions in this order "owner, group, others" "owner group"
[17:01] <greenit> can no1 help me? i hate the extremely light text on white background, and i rly don't know how to change that....
[17:01] <TomSlominski> ikonia, the NTFS one is fine. The ext4 one isn't. I'll just chown it
[17:01] <ikonia> TomSlominski: you need to chown and chmod it
[17:02] <hikenboot> llutz it apparently sows the current owner before the group ...thanks just had to create a file and set its user with chown to see for sure...it was a stuipid question with a simple answer
[17:02] <TomSlominski> ikonia: A chown seems to have done the job. Thanks.
[17:03] <Squall5668> hm, guys, does this look right? http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee178/Squall5668/1.png videos/screenshots from 12.10 all seem to have the old unity look
[17:03] <ikonia> Squall5668: looks like gnome shell
[17:03] <Squall5668> yeah, but i didn't install it
[17:04] <linux|newb> Squall5668: chosen from the session menu?
[17:04] <ikonia> Squall5668: looks like you did
[17:04] <hikenboot> llutz last question and I promise to leave you alone which permissions are effective the least restrictive of owner and group or the most restrictive of the two
[17:04] <Squall5668> ikonia linux|newb: looks like i did, well, guess i was too drunk :)
[17:05] <Skater_2015> I'm currently in the process of switching from debian to ubuntu server.
[17:05] <ikonia> Skater_2015: is there a question in there ?
[17:06] <unrar> ohaio
[17:06] <llutz> hikenboot: afaik the most restrictive
[17:06] <zatan> Hey how can I report bug in lauchpad ? I am cliking REPORT BUG but its giving me wiki page
[17:06] <ale__> irc://irc.RelaxedIRC.net/epic
[17:06] <ikonia> ale__: ?
[17:06] <Skater_2015> I just want to make sure the packages are the same in Ubuntu v. Debian.
[17:06] <zykotick9> !bug > zatan
[17:07] <Squall5668> when the f*** did i do all that... unity doesn't even exist on the logon screen... well is there anything radicaly different in the new unity? should i try it?
[17:07] <ikonia> Skater_2015: they won't be "the same" but there are similar versions
[17:07] <ikonia> Squall5668: that language is uncalled for an unwelcome, please stop
[17:07] <linux|newb> Squall5668: it's a preference thing. new in 12.10 is shopping
[17:08] <Squall5668> ikonia: which is why there are asterisks, still sorry to offend ;) ill give it a try
[17:08] <Skater_2015> all right,   because I'm moving from Debian 7 (wheezy) to Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)
[17:08] <ikonia> Squall5668: if you have to star it out....you shouldn't use it
[17:08] <Squall5668> point taken
[17:09] <Joeman1> Which nvidia driver is better fro Unity and gaming... The 304 driver from ubuntu-x-swat or the 310 from the experimental install in the ubuntu repos? Which is better to use?
[17:09] <ikonia> Squall5668: mega, thank you
[17:09] <ShinyObjects> Hello everyone. I have a one button mouse but I'd like the ability to right click and scroll. I've managed to map ctrl+click to right click, but I haven't figured out how to map a key combo (say, super+mouse move) to scrolling.
[17:09] <ikonia> Joeman1: depends on your card and it's level of support for that card
[17:09] <TomSlominski> Hi. I'm trying to disable one key in the move plugin in compiz via gconf. How do I set it to disabled?
[17:09] <ShinyObjects> Does anyone know how that could be done?
[17:09] <Joeman1> I have a GeForce GTX 570 HD
[17:10] <ikonia> Joeman1: ok, so you need to research that card and the support in each drier
[17:10] <Joeman1> that was from lspci
[17:10] <TomSlominski> It's a string that contains <Alt>F7 and I need it to be completely disabled.
[17:10] <Joeman1> OK, thanks... I will take a look!
[17:11] <zykotick9> TomSlominski: is the string you want to disable ctrl+alt+f7?  if so, i doubt you can.  and you probably shouldn't.
[17:11] <Skater_2015> I have a question, - Since I'm a beginner with Linux, should I set up disks using Guided - without LVM, or with LVM / encrypted?
[17:11] <ikonia> Skater_2015: up to you
[17:12] <jpmh> I am running firefox 11.0 for some styrange reason - it tells me it is out of date, I know that 16 is out - how do I get it to upgrade?
[17:12] <ikonia> Skater_2015: depends on your needs
[17:12] <Skater_2015> ah, since I'm gonna be running a minecraft server, do I need LVM enabled?
[17:12] <ikonia> Skater_2015: that has nothing to do with lvm
[17:12] <ikonia> Skater_2015: it depends on your needs and system
[17:12] <Skater_2015> all right,
[17:13] <Skater_2015> I guess a Pentium 4 2.26ghz with 1.5GB ram doesn't need lvm
[17:13] <ikonia> Skater_2015: what /
[17:13] <_3vi1_> Hello World!
[17:13] <ikonia> Skater_2015: how does your CPU have anything to do with your disk layout ?
[17:13] <Skater_2015> no, it doesn't.
[17:13] <ikonia> Skater_2015: right, so why did you say it ?
[17:14] <Skater_2015> not sure.
[17:14] <_3vi1_> Blech... raring updates appear to have left the system with no sound ATM.
[17:14] <theslow1> Hey, I am not in the Steam beta so I cannot report bugs. Is there anyone here can can try and replicate one for me?
[17:14] <zatan> Hey can anyone help me here with this issue I cant upgrade anything: http://pastebin.com/YqpFP44z
[17:14] <TomsLaptopCrashe> zykotick9, No, it's just windows move. But I don't want this key combination. It's ruining my life. Alt+F7
[17:14] <zykotick9> TomsLaptopCrashe: ok, just checkin'.  good luck.
[17:15] <TomSlominski> zykotick9, lol, okay, thanks
[17:15] <_3vi1_> theslow1:  I didn't make it in either, so I can't help with that.  :(
[17:16] <TomSlominski> What am I on about? It's alt+button 1.
[17:16] <hikenboot> join #pureadmin
[17:17]  * zykotick9 had to search what pureadmin was.  ftp must die!  see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[17:17] <OerHeks> theslow1, if you are not in the beta, how do you get bugs ? anyway, report bugs to http://store.steampowered.com/forums/
[17:19] <_3vi1_> DerHeks:  He probably downloaded the client and is seeing bugs in the steam app itself, not the games.
[17:19] <hikenboot> Hello I am using pure ftp have created owner of files and directories according to restrictive policies on wordpress web files user /var/www I have given ownership of files/directories to www-data and a group of www-users to the files which are more restrictive...now I am trying to get ftp working for a user with high permissions for use with a wordpress plugin temporarily
[17:20] <_3vi1_> *OerHeks... hehe
[17:20] <OerHeks> _3vi1_, i know there is a workaround
[17:21] <hikenboot> I want to specify the owner group for the user of www-data, but I cant figure out how to specify it for the ftp users with pure-ftpd
[17:21] <hikenboot> anyone able to help
[17:21] <_3vi1_> OerHeks:  Not even a workaround really - just install it and right-click it on the launcher.  A lot of us installed it in anticipation of getting beta invites... then didn't.  :p  C'est la vie.
[17:21] <hikenboot> note i am not making the user a member of www-users so it has less restrictive permissions
[17:22] <hikenboot> but making it just a member of the group www-data does not seem to allow me to do a mkdir via ftp so something is a-miss
[17:26] <marsfligth>  Please how to open with maximized layout a gtk-application from Bash? In my case, I'd use it to launch 'catfish' search tool
[17:26] <OerHeks> hikenboot, maybe this page is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP
[17:27] <thrope> im running 12.04… my permanent mounts (in fstab) show up in the launcher but they have an ugly white page with a question mark icon… is there a way to get them a proper disk or fodler icon (or remove them from the launcher)
[17:27] <cyberflyz> hi
[17:27] <cri_> hi
[17:29] <cyberflyz> i changed my vps ubuntu server time zone to Asia/Kuala_Lumpur. but it shows the wrong time zone. it shows 2 hours faster. how to fix this?
[17:29] <ikonia> cyberflyz: is it syncing from ntp ?
[17:29] <ikonia> cyberflyz: did you reboot after changing the time ?
[17:29] <jpmh> I get Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found when I update the repositories - what do I need to change
[17:29] <ikonia> cyberflyz: is it taking the time from the hardware clock of the physical host /
[17:29] <ikonia> jpmh: check the file is there
[17:30] <jpmh> ikonia: what file is where?
[17:30] <ikonia> jpmh: the file on the remote server
[17:30] <doomlord> is there a hardware compatability list for graphics cards, or anyone know off hand if a geforce gt640 will run ok on linu
[17:30] <cyberflyz> ikonia : i dont understand
[17:30] <doomlord> on ubuntu /12.10
[17:30] <ikonia> cyberflyz: are you using ntp yes/no ?
[17:30] <jpmh> ikonia: assuming it is not - hpw do I correctly set the list on my machine
[17:31] <cyberflyz> yes
[17:31] <ikonia> jpmh: you don't, as if the file is missing, it's not your problem/fault
[17:31] <hikenboot> the problem is that this plugin is dumb normally one wouldnt want allow ftp user to be able to change and delete everything in /var/www it should have worked instead over ssh
[17:31] <ikonia> cyberflyz: ok, so check the ntp source
[17:31] <sotiris> hi
[17:31] <MoL0ToV> hi to all
[17:32] <sonmezisak> hi
[17:32] <sotiris> where are you from
[17:33] <OerHeks> doomlord, last model i see is th 610 >> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/make/NVIDIA%20Corporation/?page=last
[17:35] <grkblood> how do i find out which one of my audio outputs is active via the command line?
[17:37] <MoL0ToV> one question: is planned to trow unity in a basket and install gnome3 with gdm by default?
[17:37] <rymate1234> no
[17:37] <cyberflyz> ntp what file need to be edit ?
[17:37] <rymate1234> MoL0ToV, why would ubuntu ditch their own desktop
[17:38] <OerHeks> grkblood, try alsamixer
[17:38] <hikenboot> ok i thought of a temporary solution for use for the offline data transfer Just have to shut off the internet while I am doing it...is it possible to add a group to the membership of the everyone group in linux?
[17:38] <OerHeks> !nounity | MoL0ToV
[17:38] <dak0> Hello, I can't uninstall wine help me!
[17:38] <dak0> I tried from Ubuntu Software center, also sudo apt-get remove wine
[17:39] <rinches> Good morning Linux community. The best community I've seen thus far! :D
[17:41] <rinches> There's an option during the installation of Linux that says "Encrypt my home folder". What's the other option that you shouldn't enable after you have selected to "Encrypt my home folder"?
[17:41] <rinches> I just need to know the name of it, so I can research it for my homework assignment.
[17:42] <ikonia> rinches: just boot the CD and look as I don't know what option you're referencing
[17:42] <rinches> ok
[17:43] <dougl> what is a good vnc client for 12.10?
[17:45] <cyberflyz> syytem clock show two hours faster than the current time. how to slove it ?
[17:46] <ikonia> cyberflyz: you are using ntp - so you need to check the ntp source
[17:46] <ikonia> cyberflyz: as I told you earlier
[17:47] <cyberflyz> command ntpdate ?
[17:47] <ikonia> cyberflyz: what /
[17:48] <cyberflyz> what is the command?
[17:48] <ikonia> cyberflyz: how did you setup ntp ?
[17:49] <TechTanner> Hello?
[17:49] <ikonia> hello
[17:49] <TechTanner> How are you guys doing today?
[17:49] <invisibleheero> hey guys I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 and I'm trying to compile webcam studio and I get the following error gcc: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-Wl’ can someone point me to what I need to install to fix tha
[17:49] <invisibleheero> t
[17:49]  * linux|newb rates Linux Bible 8th Edition
[17:50] <ikonia> invisibleheero: looks like that flag is not a valid option for your gcc version
[17:50] <ikonia> linux|newb: we don't need to know that sort of random comment
[17:50] <linux|newb> ikonia: erm... too bad?
[17:50] <cyberflyz> i dont know
[17:50] <TechTanner> If I changed a bootable but non primary partition to logical, will I still be able to boot into it?
[17:50] <ikonia> linux|newb: what ?
[17:50] <cyberflyz> i get the free vps from host1free
[17:50] <ikonia> cyberflyz: you don't know ?? why did you say "yes" when I asked if you where using ntp if you don't know
[17:51] <linux|newb> ikonia: it's been said. we can't dwell :)
[17:51] <TechTanner> From another bootloader such as Grub?
[17:51] <invisibleheero> ikonia,  do you know which version of gcc I need?
[17:51] <ikonia> invisibleheero: no idea, check if it's a valid option
[17:51] <ikonia> cyberflyz: the time maybe locked by your vps provider
[17:51] <ikonia> cyberflyz: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please.
[17:51] <invisibleheero> have have 4.7
[17:52] <Nahjil> I am attempting to put ubuntu 12.10 on my destop using a partition with windows 7. Anyone willing to walk me through the install?
[17:52] <cyberflyz> Linux server 2.6.32-042stab061.2 #1 SMP Fri Aug 24 09:07:21 MSK 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[17:52] <ikonia> cyberflyz: ok, so it's a custom install, it's possible/probible that the time is being set by the host, your VPS provider should be able to resolve that
[17:53] <TechTanner> Hey Nahjil. I can try to help you to the best of my ability that I can do.
[17:53] <TechTanner> Do you have wubi.exe?
[17:53] <TechTanner> If not, you can get it from this link: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[17:53] <OerHeks> invisibleheero, why don't you just download the deb @ http://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/list or here are compiling instructions >> http://www.ws4gl.org/download/manual-installation
[17:54] <ikonia> Nahjil: I'd advise you not to use wubi as TechTanner is suggeting
[17:54] <ikonia> Nahjil: partition your disk to have a partition for ubuntu and windows, and do a standard ubuntu install
[17:54] <ikonia> !install | Nahjil
[17:54] <TechTanner> Okay. I
[17:54] <Nahjil> !install
[17:55] <TechTanner> I'm just trying to do the same thing, and I am trying to partition my computer into using another partition, however I already have 4 primary partitions. Is it save to change a partition that doesn't use a bootloader to a logical?
[17:55] <ikonia> TechTanner: you can't change partitions
[17:55] <ikonia> TechTanner: you have to delete and re-create
[17:56] <invisibleheero> ikonia, good seeing you again. I fixed it. just had to do gcc-4.6 -s -Wl
[17:56] <invisibleheero> OerHeks, the deb doesn't work. I just installed it now
[17:57] <cyberflyz> i have changed the ntp source but it didn't work for me
[17:57] <ikonia> cyberflyz: that's not what I told you to do
[17:57] <ikonia> cyberflyz: I told you to contact your VPS provider
[17:59] <fariazz> After a disk error I had to shut down my computer. When turning it on I get an error "unknown filesystem" and I'm taken to grub rescue. I run "boot repair from the live CD and got this log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1348224/ .. how can I get back in my system?
[18:00] <fariazz> using ubuntu 12.10 64 bits
[18:01] <linux|newb> do others find that there are a lot of linux enthusiasts that are also big music enthusiasts?
[18:01] <ikonia> linux|newb: that's not for this channel
[18:02] <linux|newb> ikonia: please link to Ts and Cs of channel
[18:02] <ikonia> !guidelines | linux|newb
[18:02] <linux|newb> ikonia: ...I seem to keep putting foot in it
[18:02] <ikonia> !topic | linux|newb
[18:02] <OerHeks> linux|newb, join #ubuntu-studio
[18:02] <ikonia> linux|newb: it's not a problem,  just check that link and the topic
[18:02]  * linux|newb checks
[18:04] <OerHeks> c/#ubuntustudio
[18:04] <linux|newb> OerHeks: helpful - thanks
[18:08] <drdepper_man22> excuse how do you ping in ubuntu terminal?
[18:08] <ikonia> ping
[18:08] <ikonia> drdepper_man22: "man ping" to get info on ping
[18:08] <leon_> ema
[18:08] <drdepper_man22> excuse me i need to know how to ping in ubnut terminal
[18:09] <ikonia> drdepper_man22: ping $hostname
[18:09] <ikonia> or ip
[18:09] <linux|newb> drdepper_man22: ping <ip/hostname>
[18:09] <ikonia> drdepper_man22: man ping will show you examples
[18:09] <leon_> jest Polska?
[18:09] <ikonia> !pl | leon_
[18:09] <drdepper_man22> oki thank you. will it work in pinguy os?
[18:09] <ikonia> drdepper_man22: we don't support pinguy os here
[18:09] <linux|newb> drdepper_man22: yes
[18:10] <drdepper_man22> ok great!
[18:10] <drdepper_man22> have qa nice day!
[18:10] <dougl> how do I get a windowed view of my vnc login to my windows box... gvncviewer works but has not window cannot be sized down or moved - any suggestion?
[18:11] <zatan> Hye can anyone help me to soort this problem or help me to fill a bug in launchpad ?
[18:11] <zatan> http://pastebin.com/HpvAVcG4
[18:11] <ikonia> zatan: touch the file
[18:12] <dougl> touch filename?
[18:12] <ikonia> !info nvidia-current
[18:13] <ikonia> zatan: do you have an external repo enabled, as that version doesn't look like it's coming from ubuntu
[18:13] <rinches> Okay, need some help. Other than "Encrypt my home folder", the other option would be "Encrypt whole disk" correct?
[18:13] <zatan> ikonia, I have touched but got some more http://pastebin.com/k8i1nUSV
[18:13] <dougl> rinches, no
[18:13] <zatan> ikonia, I have installed from nvidia.com those drivers
[18:13] <ikonia> zatan: then you have broke your system
[18:14] <dougl> rinches, other option would have your home dir not encrypted
[18:14] <zatan> ikonia, ... so what next step I should apply ?
[18:14] <ikonia> zatan: but I don't see where 304.64-0ubuntu1~quantal~xup1 is coming from
[18:14] <ikonia> zatan: what repo is that package held in
[18:14] <rinches> Well this question on my homework is confusing me.
[18:14] <ikonia> rinches: boot the CD rom
[18:15] <ikonia> rinches: then you will know the option]
[18:15] <zatan> ikonia, https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee
[18:15] <ikonia> zatan: ok, so that's a 3rd party repo, so you'll need to a.) remove all nvidia.com drivers b.) contact the repo owner to fix the pckage
[18:17] <zatan> ikonia, I cant bloody not event  --purge remove those drivers! http://pastebin.com/fySbTXPj    amm is there anyway that I can install just default ubuntu nvidia drivers ?
[18:17] <grimeton> is there a way to tell the ike and setkey services not to shut down when the system goes down ?
[18:17] <ikonia> zatan: no, they will conflict with the nvidia.com ones
[18:18] <zatan> ikonia, so if I cant remove nvidia.com drivers ?
[18:18] <OerHeks> zatan, if you added x-swat, just use ppa-purge to reverse the driver
[18:18] <ikonia> zatan: you need to manually remove all the stuff installed by nvidia.com - then contact the owner of the 3rd party repo to get the package fixed
[18:18] <ikonia> zatan: then you are in a mess if you can't remove them
[18:18] <zatan> ikonia, reinstall ubuntu will help ?
[18:18] <ikonia> zatan: it will remove them, yes
[18:19] <zatan> amm  so I think I know my next step...
[18:19] <hikenboot> ok sigh..here goes i have the following permissions on a folder drwxr-sr-x ftpuser www-users when logging in via pureftp i issue a mkdir beneath that directory (mkdir test) and I get access is denied anyone know why?
[18:19] <grimeton> zatan: you can also enforce the installation of the ubuntu ones, which will override the nvidia stuff, and should solve your package madness
[18:19] <zatan> grimeton, how can I do that ?
[18:19] <grimeton> zatan: dpkg --install --force-all $package
[18:20] <ikonia> it won't work, but by all means, try it
[18:20] <ikonia> that will only overwrite the kernel module, not the libc interface it builds
[18:20] <grimeton> then he has to enforce that too
[18:20] <zatan> dpkg --install --force-all nvidia-current     dpkg: error processing nvidia-current (--install):  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[18:20] <grimeton> if there's a force, there's a way
[18:20] <manolos> is this the right channel to talk about conky problems?
[18:20] <Zer0Glitch_> Hello all.
[18:21] <grimeton> zatan: the file itself, not the package name
[18:21] <arabi> hi
[18:21] <hikenboot> my user is a member of ftpuser not of www-users
[18:21] <ikonia> it won't work
[18:21] <grimeton> hikenboot: so, what do you have to change to make it work then?
[18:21] <Zer0Glitch_> Has anyone here tried doing an BLFS build on Raspberry Pi?
[18:22] <ikonia> Zer0Glitch_: that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:22] <hikenboot> not sure the user fptuser has drwx isnt that eveything?
[18:22] <grimeton> hikenboot: are you logging in as ftpuser?
[18:22] <Zer0Glitch_> ikonia > False statement. If Raspberri Pi can handle a BLFS build, it can manage Ubuntu, though it will need to boot from SD and then load out from SSD connect via USB.
[18:23] <Zer0Glitch_> My question was technical, and you are a n00b.
[18:23] <ikonia> Zer0Glitch_: it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> guys, any hints and tips to make my programs detect my webcam? not even Cheese detects it -- Bus 001 Device 002: ID 064e:a103 Suyin Corp. Acer/HP Integrated Webcam [CN0314]
[18:23] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: look at what device file cheese wants to use
[18:24] <hikenboot> well this is where i am a little fuzzy i have creaed a user called ftpuser and its attached to my account in pureftp and i am logged into ftp with my account so I am a bit unsure i cant seem to set a separate password for ftp user in pureftp
[18:24] <rinches> ikonia, I see the option they are talking about within the book. Would you mind if I shared with you the question that the book is asking? I don't want the answer, but rather if you could, let me know if I'm right about what I'm thinking.
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  it's empty and cannot be clicked
[18:24] <grimeton> hikenboot: usually the ftp daemon changes the owner to the user that connected (if the user exists on the system)
[18:25] <ikonia> rinches: do your own homework
[18:25] <grimeton> hikenboot: so if you want to be ftpuser, login as ftpuser
[18:25] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: so you need to find out (research) what device file it's looking at
[18:26] <rinches> Thanks for the help ikonia
[18:26] <Chotaz`> Partitioning my system's hard drive to make space for a dual boot without re-formatting is is not doable, right?
[18:26] <grimeton> hikenboot: OR, the daemon is configured to not change to a specific user, then it runs as $ftpuser and does not check permissions
[18:26] <grimeton> hikenboot: figure that part of the setup out, and then we'll see what comes next
[18:26] <grimeton> hikenboot: you could also try to change the group membership of the directory to the ftpuser's group
[18:27] <grimeton> hikenboot: and then set the group permissions to wrx (7)
[18:27] <grimeton> hikenboot: so you have 0777
[18:27] <grimeton> hikenboot: or 0775
[18:27] <n0sq> anyone know why the msntranslator program doesn't show up in the amsn plugins list? it's definitely installed in the proper directory. closing and re-opening amsn doesn't help. ubuntu 12.10
[18:27] <grimeton> hikenboot: then it could start working - depending on the settings from above
[18:28] <AminosAmigos> anyone actually  got webaaps to work on 12.04 ?
[18:28] <grimeton> hikenboot: btw: it's a good idea to use vsftpd
[18:28] <Guest25674> hello
[18:29] <Guest25674> vsftpd?
[18:29] <hikenboot> ok this mystery is getting rediculous i use passwd command to set password for ftpuser then i try and log via ftp and get 530 login authentication failed  remote system type is unix then it says using binary mode transfer files then comes to the prompt then when i do an ls it tells me that ftp: bind: address is already in use
[18:29] <grimeton> hikenboot: yeah, that's a client issue
[18:29] <mneptok> Guest25674: do you need anonymous access? or just system users?
[18:29] <grimeton> restart the client
[18:29] <Guest25674> anonymous
[18:30] <ikonia> hikenboot: you've just said things that are not related to each other
[18:30] <ikonia> hikenboot: "address in use" is a server error
[18:30] <ikonia> hikenboot: yet your trying to login, suggesting you are using a client
[18:30] <grimeton> ikonia: you ever heard of the "login" command in ftp before?
[18:30] <mneptok> Guest25674: good luck. i haven't used an anon account in years, so have no current knowledge of FTPds.
[18:30] <ikonia> grimeton: yes
[18:31] <ikonia> why ?
[18:31] <grimeton> ikonia: so - if one can use the login command - how is it, that the error message hikenboot sees is server related?
[18:31] <Guest25674> whats the issue
[18:31] <ikonia> grimeton: "bind address in use" is a server error, stating it can't bind the daemon to the  interface/address as it's already in use
[18:32] <grimeton> ikonia: but it's not possible that the client is already connected and that another connection attempt fails because it is already connected?
[18:32] <ikonia> grimeton: you wouldn't get that error, as you can have multiple ftp client sessions open
[18:32] <Chotaz`> !Partitioning
[18:32] <grimeton> ikonia: yeah but not with the same client
[18:32] <ikonia> grimeton: the client doesn't bind to an address
[18:32] <ikonia> grimeton: yes, you can
[18:33] <Chotaz`> !GParted
[18:33] <grimeton> ikonia: the client connects, tries to authenticate, that fails, but the control connection on tcp/21 is still open
[18:33] <ikonia> grimeton: yes, that "session" is unique
[18:33] <grimeton> ikonia: so issuing another open command returns this error
[18:33] <Guest25674> whats the issue?
[18:33] <linux|newb> when I was working in fedora, I was able to send mail from bash to my gmail account without and additional setup. I had to find the hostname in my junk box and white list but from then on it worked. is it the same deal with ubuntu?
[18:33] <grimeton> ikonia: if hikenboot would have used login instead, it would have worked
[18:33] <ikonia> grimeton: did I miss the part where he's opened a second connection ?
[18:33] <grimeton> ikonia: you did
[18:34] <ikonia> grimeton: I saw him trying to login, fail, then get the bind error
[18:34] <grimeton> ikonia: i don't need to explain that to you again, do i?
[18:34] <ikonia> linux|newb: that depends on if google see it as spam
[18:35] <ikonia> grimeton: errr, I'm only seeing him open one connection from his description, where is he saying he's opening a second connection (I may have missed that in the scroll)
[18:35] <grimeton> ikonia: it's in the same sentence
[18:35] <grimeton> ikonia: go read, and think
[18:35] <linux|newb> ikonia: if I white list I don't need to worry about that but when I commit mail -s "some message" someaddress@domain.com it doesn't even arrive in spam...
[18:35] <grimeton> ikonia: and all other answers are in here: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc959.html
[18:35] <ikonia> linux|newb: check it's leaving the queue
[18:35] <ikonia> grimeton: I understand how ftp works, I'm not understanding/missing a part of his question
[18:35] <grimeton> ikonia: and do me a favour - drop that attitude when trying to give support in this channel - the people in here are not dumb, they just don't know what they should read
[18:36] <rinches> Thank you grimeton :D
[18:36] <linux|newb> ikonia: mind expanding on how I check the queue... don't see anything in --help
[18:36] <grimeton> you're welcome
[18:36] <ikonia> grimeton: asking a question about the problem and stating it doesn't make sense it a reasonable question,
[18:36] <ikonia> linux|newb: mailq
[18:37] <ikonia> linux|newb: what mta are you running
[18:37] <linux|newb> ikonia: whatever's invoked by default when issuing mail from bash
[18:37] <ikonia> linux|newb: mail doesn't invoke an mta, that's just a client
[18:38] <ikonia> linux|newb: you need to be running an mta on your ubuntu machine for it to send the mail out
[18:38] <grimeton> linux|newb: check what the mail command belongs to - usually it is part of the installed mta, like exim or postfix
[18:38] <linux|newb> ikonia: aharh! potentially the root to my issue. one in particular that you recommend?
[18:38] <ikonia> linux|newb: there is normally exim installed by default, check it's setup/running
[18:39] <hikenboot> ok i am trying to test the ftp to it locally so i am in essence trying to ftp from a server I am already logged into...is this an improper test...if I was using ssh it would allow me to loop like this
[18:39] <llutz> linux|newb: just to send some mails from cli? ssmtp
[18:39] <grimeton> linux|newb: there are also "dummies" that act like the usual mail command to the application, but transfer the mail via a predefined smtp server without the need to run a full blown mta
[18:39] <ikonia> hikenboot: if you ftp into a server, you can't then invoke "ftp" again from that ftp prompt
[18:39] <grimeton> hikenboot: no, that's fine - the thing is: how is the ftp daemon configured to act on a successfull login
[18:39] <linux|newb> hmm, I'd prefer to run an MTA though as I don't want the mail to appear that it's coming from some other account - y'know
[18:40] <zatan> ikonia, is this command enough sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a  to reinstall my 12.10 version ? or do thorugh DVD ?
[18:40] <grimeton> linux|newb: then choose your poison ;)
[18:40] <ikonia> zatan: I don't believe it will work as I stated earlelier,
[18:40] <ikonia> zatan: that command just configured the ubuntu package
[18:40] <linux|newb> grimeton: may just go for ssmtp as ikonia suggested
[18:40] <hikenboot> grimeton i will investigate this thanks
[18:40] <linux|newb> ikonia: grimeton: cheers
[18:40] <ikonia> zatan: you are not using the ubuntu package as you've installed it from nvidia.com
[18:40] <ikonia> linux|newb: I didn't suggest ssmpt
[18:40] <ikonia> ssmtp
[18:41] <zatan> ikonia, ok cheers burning new dvd and will re-install all ubuntu
[18:41] <linux|newb> ikonia: I guess I misunderstood, do you suggest any or is that against the ts and cs ;)?
[18:41] <ikonia> linux|newb: exim is installed by default normally, you just have to configure/set it up
[18:45] <max1> Hello! Can please somebody from support have a look here: http://pastebin.com/99kY2ee8. I have description of my problem there. Thank you!
[18:46] <dr_willis> you will get more lookers if you at least give  a small symmary of the issue here
[18:47] <YokoBR> guys, i still can't get my wifi working :(
[18:47] <phanindra> hi all, I tried to install oracle in ubuntu. but the data base is not up. can any one help me please?
[18:48] <ikonia> phanindra: what happens when you try to start it
[18:48] <phanindra> ikonia, lsnrctl status gives no out. I do not know if oracle is up
[18:48] <phanindra> ikonia, "lsnrctl status"
[18:48] <ikonia> phanindra: that's only the listener, not the database
[18:49] <linux|newb> grimeton: hazzah! I went for a blended approach. configured ssmtp to use my gmail smtp information and then used mail to issue comms
[18:49] <phanindra> ikonia, can you tell me how to start the database?
[18:49] <spacebarbarian> is there a way to open a bash shell with different user without providing password ? (with sudo / su)
[18:49] <grimeton> linux|newb: and let me guess - it worked ;)
[18:49] <linux|newb> grimeton: like a charm
[18:49] <lonewulf85> I have a question for any Linux/Unix programmers.
[18:49] <ikonia> phanindra: have you set up the database ?
[18:50] <knoppix> i just google it
[18:50] <max1> Hello, support? I need help, please!
[18:50] <phanindra> I just have set up the database. I used the method in "http://www.techienote.com/tag/oracle-database-11g-r2-on-ubuntu-12-04". I ignored  3 warnings in linking binaries phase
[18:50] <knoppix> yes what's your question
[18:50] <knoppix> ??
[18:50] <phanindra> ikonia, I just have set up the database. I used the method in "http://www.techienote.com/tag/oracle-database-11g-r2-on-ubuntu-12-04". I ignored  3 warnings in linking binaries phase
[18:51] <max1> knoppix, did you talk to me?
[18:51] <ikonia> phanindra: ok, so how does that guide tell you to start the database ?
[18:51] <YokoBR> guys, i have a broadcom 4313 on ubuntu 12.04 but i can't get it working
[18:51] <Phase> phasephasephase
[18:51] <ikonia> phanindra: wow, that guide is super wrong
[18:52] <phanindra> ikonia, what shall I do? is there any way to install oracle in ubuntu?
[18:52] <ikonia> phanindra: the oracle documentation has instructions on how to install it on linux
[18:52] <lonewulf85> Any Unix/Linux programmers on?
[18:53] <phanindra> ikonia, but it doesnot support ubuntu. thats why I have chosen that guide
[18:53] <max1> Hello! Support guys! Can somebody please help me?
[18:53] <ikonia> phanindra: you're right, Oracle doesn't officialy support ubuntu, but you can use the instructions as a "base" and just adapt
[18:53] <lonewulf85> max1: Maybe anyone could help. What is your issue?
[18:54] <phanindra> ikonia, ok. I will try that now. thank you.
[18:54] <ikonia> phanindra: may I ask why you are trying to install Oracle if you're not really clear on how to use it ?
[18:55] <phanindra> ikonia, I used oracle in windows, I can start it from services. but I do not know how to start with it in ubuntu. thats why I want to learn the installation and usage
[18:55] <Chotaz`> Can I make a partition on an already formatted NTFS HDD?
[18:56] <Chopinn> if I sudo apt-get install python-webpy <-- this will only work on python 2.x but i want it to install for python 3.x, how do i do that? thanks
[18:56] <ikonia> phanindra: can I suggest using RHEL/Centos for this, as you're going to be fighting against some "core" problems, so until you are happy enough to understand them and switch back to ubuntu, using a supported platform maybe a wiser move
[18:56] <YokoBR> please, could someone help me with my broadcom wireless driver?
[18:56] <ikonia> phanindra: the error you've ignored (instructed by the website) about the client libraries, isn't good
[18:57] <phanindra> ikonia, yeah. you are right. but I donot want to change my os now. So i am trying to install in ubuntu
[18:57] <Mortu> hi there, anyone can help me with Pidgin, with a short q?
[18:57] <ikonia> phanindra: it's up to you, but that install routine looks a mess/flawed
[18:57] <IdleOne> !broadcom | YokoBR
[18:58] <lix> YokoBR: what does lspci say? (just the line with you wirelesscard info)
[18:58] <phanindra> ikonia, can I ask you,how could you figure out that that guide is wrong?
[18:59] <ikonia> phanindra: few things stick out straight away, like creating the init directories, which ubuntu won't use,
[18:59] <ikonia> phanindra: then reading some of the things about the failing components.....
[18:59] <Mortu> i user Ubuntu 12.10 and in Pidgin / Buddy List i see their ID, not thei nicknames. Can smw help ?! Thanks!
[18:59] <phanindra> ikonia, ok thanks for your time.
[19:01] <MrStein> Hi! I asked this a few days ago, but got no answer. Are problems with 12.10 and VMware a known issue? Worth opening a bug? Is there already one?
[19:01] <rinches> What other support channels are there?
[19:01] <ikonia> rinches: try the "alis" bot
[19:01] <ikonia> MrStein: search the bug reports,
[19:01] <OerHeks> !alis | rinches
[19:01] <ikonia> MrStein: that will tell you if it's known
[19:02] <IdleOne> !alis > rinches
[19:02] <MrStein> ikonia: no ,really? ;)
[19:02] <rinches> thanks
[19:02] <ikonia> MrStein: well, if it's that obvsiouy, why are you asking
[19:02] <rinches> !alis
[19:02] <lunaphyte> hi.  i'm having trouble getting the appmenu / global menus to work.
[19:02] <rinches> Thank ubottu
[19:02] <YokoBR> IdleOne, i've already tried that
[19:03] <IdleOne> YokoBR: see what lix asked you earlier
[19:03] <k1l_> YokoBR: when you use backtrack, pls use the backtrack support.
[19:03] <k1l_> !backtrack > YokoBR
[19:03] <lunaphyte> i believe i have the necessary packages installed [ http://dpaste.com/828856/ ], but the menus are still within individual windows.
[19:03] <IdleOne> and yeah if you are using backtrack ask the backtrack people
[19:04] <_Gay-Ecuador> Hola, Algun para chat?
[19:06] <ajrty33> im trying to run boot-repair, but get this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1348664/
[19:07] <ikonia> ajrty33: it can't run copy
[19:07] <ikonia> ajrty33: or the command is missing
[19:08] <ajrty33> ikonia: bin/cp exists :/
[19:08] <ikonia> ajrty33: so it can't execute it
[19:08] <ikonia> ajrty33: or the path is wrong for it
[19:08] <ikonia> work it through
[19:09] <lonewulf85> Could anyone tell me how easy it is to learn to program in Unix/Linux?
[19:09] <_Gay-Ecuador> Hola, Algun para chat?
[19:09] <ikonia> lonewulf85: depends on the language and your skill level
[19:10] <ikonia> lonewulf85: lots of guides on the net and books on amazon
[19:10] <ajrty33> i have no idea how to work it through
[19:10] <ikonia> ajrty33: try running the copy command from within the chroot ?
[19:10] <ikonia> ajrty33: try to think about it logically, what is the script trying to do, emmulate that and get the error/output
[19:10] <lix> lonewulf85: what kind of program would you like to write? - there are so many languages :)
[19:11] <lix> lonewulf85: or do you mean scripting?
[19:11] <mih1406> I have a question about an issued in GNOME Shell, check here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/213850
[19:11] <ghostconn> I recently seen a post on the net stating that ubuntu only uses 1 core to boot and you can shave allot of time by booting up with max ram and all cores enabled
[19:11] <ikonia> mih1406: you need to log a bug
[19:12] <ikonia> mih1406: or link it to an existing bug
[19:12] <ghostconn> how do i enable all 4core and my 12gb of ram to the boot up?
[19:12] <lonewulf85> lix: I mean both I wish to learn how to build programs and how to fix or upgrade them.
[19:12] <ikonia> ghostconn: it will use all 4 cores
[19:12] <anzenketh> I am trying to disable PHP modules in ubuntu server I can not figure out how to do it.
[19:12] <lix> mih1506: imho this is worth a bug report
[19:13] <lix> lonewulf85: what is you skill level yet?
[19:13] <TheLordOfTime> anzenketh, which PHP modules?
[19:13] <hornet__> hi all
[19:13] <anzenketh> bcmath for example. Tyring to strip it down to the minimum.
[19:13] <anzenketh> Free up some memory
[19:13] <lix> anzenketh: check /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[19:13] <ghostconn> ikonia by default ubuntu will only use 1 core to boot same as any other os out there i researched it
[19:14] <doomlord> gt640 - ubuntu 12.04 - harware accel appears to be disabled .. i will upgrade (the machine hasnt been updated for a while too..)
[19:14] <ikonia> ghostconn: i disagree
[19:14] <lonewulf85> lix: Next to nothing I am able to preform a few vary minor command line operations. :) no real programming yet.
[19:14] <mih1406> ikonia, is it considered a bug? I thought a bug should be a "crash"
[19:14] <ikonia> mih1406: a bug is "something is not working as it should"
[19:15] <lix> lonewulf85: I' d start learning the shell first http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[19:15] <anzenketh> Yes lix I figured it was in there but I am having a issue finding where I am used to editing a extentions.ini file.
[19:15] <mih1406> ikonia, that is mean I am going to report too many bugs about right-to-left behavior!!
[19:15] <MrStein> reported new bug about the VMware issue.. let see what turns out ( bug 1077440 )
[19:16] <MrStein> oops :)
[19:16] <ghostconn> ikonia ;   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8KfQNreaeA
[19:16] <ghostconn> proof
[19:16] <lix> mih1406: yes, actually you should if there are any.
[19:16] <hornet__> Guys, is there any way to let the background leave on the screen after i choose OS boot in grub2 ?
[19:16] <lonewulf85> lix: Thanks for the recommend.
[19:16] <ikonia> ghostconn: can't see the video as it's flash, but I still disagree
[19:16] <ikonia> ghostconn: once the kernel boots, it's smp aware
[19:17] <lix> mih1406: so the gnome or ubuntu developpers know about it and can fix 'em
[19:17] <ajrty33> ikonia: i was able to execute the cp command in /usr/sbin/update-info-dir
[19:17] <lix> lonewulf85: welcome, Sir
[19:17] <ikonia> ajrty33: from within the chroot ?
[19:17] <YokoBR> gnome 3 and unity sucks... i wish we had gnome 2 back :(
[19:17] <mih1406> lix, ikonia thanks
[19:17] <ikonia> YokoBR: you've not, so no point complaining about it
[19:17] <dr_willis> gnome2 had its own share of issues
[19:17] <anzenketh> calendar is a great example of a PHP module I want to disable. But I can't figure out how to disable it. it is not in the php.ini file.
[19:18] <Jstone> I miss gnome2
[19:18] <ajrty33> ikonia: not in chroot
[19:18] <ikonia> ajrty33: right, so that is the problem
[19:18] <ikonia> ajrty33: you're running in a chroot, and it can't execute
[19:18] <YokoBR> Jstone, me too :( it was absolutelly perfect.
[19:18] <ghostconn> im not going to argue with you as you may be right... however every page i have read and every video i watch explains that con currency = none  you have to change it to shell
[19:18] <lix> mih1406: وكنت موضع ترحيب
[19:18] <ikonia> no point testing it outside the chroot
[19:18] <ikonia> ghostconn: can you summerise what you believe you need to change (as I can't see the video)
[19:20] <kaustubh> How do I format a pendrive in ubuntu that will also work with windows and can contain 5 GB files?
[19:20] <MrStein> ikonia: it is about running startup scripts concurrently
[19:20] <dr_willis> kaustubh:  use ntfs filesystem on it perhaps
[19:20] <MrStein> the cuncurrecny optin in /etc/init.d/rc
[19:20] <MrStein> option
[19:20] <ikonia> MrStein: that's not using multiple cores though, that's just the init process
[19:20] <kaustubh> dr_willis can you tell me commands in ubuntu
[19:20] <ikonia> MrStein: (again from what you are saying, not got anything to go by)
[19:21] <dr_willis> kaustubh:  id just use gparted.
[19:21] <MaisonNotarathed> hey, anybody in here use Bluefish to author webpages?
[19:21] <Spudster>  Question for anyone familiar with quotas and SFTP, do you know how to make it so that when a user displays the free space, the see only the amount free from the quote and not the entire disk when connecting via SFTP?
[19:21] <MrStein> ikonia: starup is a singlethreaede app (a process, name-it-waht-you will)  That change would make it run processes concurrently.
[19:21] <ikonia> Spudster: I don't think that will work
[19:22] <Spudster> ikonia: Ok, thanks
[19:22] <ikonia> MrStein: the init process is multithreaded, but it just runs one script at once, I don't see how that's core related
[19:22] <lix> Spudster: ProFTP handles it with the mod_quota module
[19:23] <doomlord> hi: Ubuntu 12.10, GeforceGT640 : i'm about to upgrade and it tells me "your graphics hardware is not supported (it will be slow..)" . its running now in unity 2D by the looks of it. Is that really the case, no GT640 support ? - its ok for the timebeing as i'm just after lots of screenspace .. but i'd like to know if it can handle this card
[19:23] <MrStein> more cores can run more thread at the same time. It is obvious, if you ask me. (but you don't... ;)
[19:23] <rapenb> hello
[19:23] <lix> Spudster: I guess it depends what ftp server you are using...
[19:23] <OerHeks> ikonia, ghostconn is pointing at "sudo gedit /etc/init.d/rc " and change CONCURRENCY=none  to CONCURRENCY=shell , but this answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/83569/does-the-concurrency-shell-tweak-work-in-11-10 clears that after 8.04 upstart scripts handle multi-core just fine
[19:23] <lix> rapenb: hi
[19:23] <lonewulf85> Does anyone know whether or not there is a way to read files on a wubi system inside windows?
[19:23] <hornet__> Guys, is there any way to let the background leave on the screen after i choose OS boot in grub2 ?
[19:23] <ikonia> OerHeks: so anything post 8.04 should be fine
[19:24] <Spudster> lix: Thanks
[19:24] <ikonia> (just having a read of the link now, thank you)
[19:24] <lix> Spudster: you' re welcome, Sir
[19:24] <ghostconn> one CPU is dynamically chosen to be the bootstrap processor (BSP) that runs all of﻿ the BIOS and kernel initialization code. This tweak enables the other cores to be activated during the boot process
[19:24] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  one way would be to use vbox and a minimal disrto to mount the wubi save file..  or some other vm.. not sure of any way windows can read a ext2/3/4 filesystem from a file.
[19:24] <ikonia> ghostconn: no, it's not
[19:24] <lonewulf85> hornet__: you could set your wallpaper to the same one as your grub background.
[19:25] <ikonia> ghostconn: that is a long and old approach to system V init
[19:25] <hikenboot> grimeton, here is what i found...I changed from pam to lunix authentication ...got rid of the authentication error, however still am getting access is denied for creating a directory inside ftp in a directory where the directory has drwx permissions for the owner (logged in as a user who is a member of the owners group on that directory)
[19:25] <ikonia> ghostconn: ubuntu doesn't use system V init any more
[19:25] <MrStein> ikonia: he just used the phrase "multi core" instead of multi-thread/multi-process/multi-task/whatever-is-the-current-buzzword
[19:25] <ikonia> MrStein: yeah, multi-core was a bad word in that example
[19:25] <kaustubh> dr_willis thanks I will try that
[19:25] <MrStein> ghostconn: no it does not.
[19:25] <ikonia> it's just executing init scripts at once, which upstart already does depending on dependencies
[19:26] <ghostconn> im sorry
[19:26] <ikonia> ghostconn: no need to apologise
[19:26] <hikenboot> the group is specified on the directory as a www-data group which only has read and execute permissions, the user is not a member of that group though
[19:26] <lonewulf85> dr_willis: Is there not an ext2/3/4 file explore that could work or is that only if the Linux system is on a separate partition?
[19:27] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  not noticed that it could do it from a file.. but ive not looked into such tools in ages.
[19:27] <grimeton> hikenboot: "linux authentication"? what's that? isn't that pam?
[19:27] <phanindra> ikonia, I would like to install centos in a virtual box and try installing oracle in that, do you think it may work?
[19:27] <ghostconn> i did not realize that ubuntu no longe uses that approach.. its weird tho because every guide i found and there is alllllot lol.. points out that this is only possible with versions of ubuntu 12 and up
[19:27] <ikonia> phanindra: yeah, it may be a bit slow but fine
[19:27] <lonewulf85> dr_willis: Okay thanks for the help. :)
[19:27] <ikonia> ghostconn: you can't trust the internet, anyone can write a web page
[19:28] <ghostconn> true enough
[19:28] <hikenboot> grimeton, no pam is not the one specified...apparently it makes a difference with this problem there two separate things aparently oh sorry my mistake lunix not pam ...sorry again for the mistake
[19:29] <grimeton> hikenboot: it's proftpd you're using?
[19:29] <hikenboot> no its pureftp should i switch
[19:29] <lonewulf85> quit
[19:29] <grimeton> hikenboot: no, i just want to knowe, to check how the ftpd works
[19:29] <lonewulf85> my bad i meant to have the /
[19:29] <phanindra> ikonia, thank you. i just wanted to see and if it works. cent os doesnt have as much support as ubuntu has. I donot want to get into problems if I struck some where. so I am thinking of installing oracle in cent os using virtual box
[19:30] <doomlord> can ubuntu unity support different wallpaper per monitor or per desktops
[19:30] <ikonia> phanindra: centos has just as much support
[19:30] <ghostconn> im just curious tho by changing CONCURRENCY=none  to CONCURRENCY=shell? what would that do
[19:30] <grimeton> hikenboot: are you using so called "virtual users" ?
[19:30] <ikonia> ghostconn: nothing
[19:30] <gmachine_24> A question I hope is not off-topic: Is there a simple how-to-get-started to set up a RAID config on an Ubuntu system? Thanks.
[19:30] <ikonia> ghostconn: I'd advise you to leave it alone
[19:30] <ghostconn> ok.. ill leave it thanks for you're help ikonia you really do know you're stuff
[19:30] <ghostconn> :)
[19:30] <hikenboot> I am by no means a linux expert but I don't understand whats going on ...grimeton when I specified pam as the authentication it appeared it was using virtual users...but since i changed it over the field is now disabled
[19:31] <phanindra> ikonia, is it? so if I change my os, I am most likely to not to get into much troubles right?
[19:31] <lix> gmachine_24: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid
[19:31] <ikonia> phanindra: you'll get into as much trouble as you can, if you break things in ubuntu, you'll break things in centos
[19:31] <lix> !ubottu raid | gmachine_24
[19:32] <lix> oups...
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !raid | gmachine_24
[19:32] <hikenboot> grimeton, before the virtual user was part of the problem, but unless its still using it but not letting me set it I don't think it is anymore
[19:33] <lix> MonkeyDust: thanks ;)
[19:33] <grimeton> hikenboot: to me it looks like pure ftp is doing everything on it's own, without using the system's authentication stuff at all
[19:33] <grimeton> hikenboot: i'm just reading the docs
[19:33] <phanindra> ikonia, if I have some trouble I can ask in this IRC and there are many people to help here. I leant a lot of things through this IRC. so I was just asking. I donot want to debate with you. I am just giving my view
[19:33] <hikenboot> ok in that case maybe i sue go over to the othe demon you suggested
[19:33] <ikonia> there is an option called "usepam" in pureftp
[19:33] <ikonia> as I recall
[19:33] <ikonia> phanindra: #centos is just as good,
[19:33] <hikenboot> s/sur/should/
[19:33] <gmachine_24> thank you. the wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid is based on Ubuntu 5.10 . . . or so it seems. I will check out the other references. Thank you MonkeyDust
[19:33] <grimeton> hikenboot: the question is: what are you trying todo with it?
[19:34] <phanindra> ikonia, thank you....
[19:35] <ghostconn> altho one problem i do have im running two cpu's on my computer and my system seems to be using cpu1 more then the other??   i have a evega sr2 motherboard with two xeon x5650's any ideas?
[19:35] <hikenboot> ok this is really dumb but a data migration plugin for wordpress that handls all data, plugins, and db migration requires it to use ftp (why its not ssh I can only guess is because wordpress also works on windows) so it has to transfer the data over ftp
[19:35] <lix> gmachine_24: the mdamd config does not change much from 5.10 to 12.10 I guess...
[19:35] <RandomPixels> anyone managed to install fuse-exfat on ARM architecture ?
[19:35] <ikonia> ghostconn: it's just smp managing it
[19:35] <ikonia> ghostconn: don't worry about it, it's being efficient
[19:35] <grimeton> hikenboot: so you need to run a ftp server that offers access to that web where the wordpress stuff is in?
[19:35] <lix> gmachine_24: at least my mdadm softraid still does the job since 6 years
[19:35] <hikenboot> so without giving 777 permissions to my whole install I am just trying to give ftpuser the permissions by assigning it to the owners group
[19:36] <gmachine_24> lix, I thought perhaps that is so. However, my knowledge is such that ..... I don't know.
[19:36] <hikenboot> grimeton, yes exactly and stupidly as it is
[19:36] <lix> gmachine_24: sure. no worries :)
[19:36] <grimeton> hikenboot: the problem is: the ftp daemon is not running as that user - check as which user it is running/started
[19:36] <gmachine_24> lix, can I send you a question directly?
[19:36] <ghostconn> ikonia - ok I jsut thought it was odd that one cpu would idle at 1-5% and the other reads 0 until I open up any intensive apps
[19:36] <lix> gmachine_24: sure. I'll give my best to answer it
[19:37] <ikonia> ghostconn: no, that's good
[19:37] <hikenboot> ah i see what your saying its acting as a proxy and that proxy user doesnt have authentication so if i set the deamon to run as that user i should be all set?
[19:37] <grimeton> hikenboot: that's the basic idea behind it
[19:37] <ghostconn> good :)
[19:37] <hikenboot> or should i make that deamon user a member of the group with permissions
[19:37] <grimeton> hikenboot: that doesn't matter, as long as the daemon later runs as a user that has access to those files
[19:38] <hikenboot> ok then i think the second one will work better. i have to run but I thank you a thousand times for your help with this crazy problem caused by a dumb plugin....
[19:38] <grimeton> hikenboot: you're welcome
[19:39] <ghostconn> i do have one more thing lmao... I have 3 hd 7770's. I only installed the CCC via additional drivers. But im pretty sure that only one card is rendering
[19:39] <ghostconn> is there any way of checking this?
[19:39] <ikonia> ghostconn: ccc ?
[19:39] <ghostconn> Catalyst Control Centre
[19:40] <spacebarbarian> how do i correctly start a new bash shell as a different user (want all settings and env stuff to be correct for new user) ?
[19:40] <ikonia> ghostconn: I have no idea if they support multiple cards like that
[19:41] <jrib> spacebarbarian: su - NEWUSER
[19:41] <spacebarbarian> jrib, thats what I tried but it doesnt exec bashrc or anything
[19:41] <grkblood> how do i check if there is an hdmi cable plugged into the hdmi port
[19:41] <ghostconn> Well i know the cards are crossfire ready.. my driver in windows is much different  as I have an option in CCC for crossfirex
[19:42] <jrib> spacebarbarian: it executes your ~/.profile
[19:42] <ikonia> ghostconn: the windows drivers don't have much relevence to the linux capabilities
[19:42] <ghostconn> i don't have an option in ubuntu's version of the driver
[19:42] <jrib> spacebarbarian: it's a login shell
[19:42] <spacebarbarian> jrib, then i tried sudo -H -u user bash --login, which does exec bashrc and profile but home isnt initialized correctly im still in current home
[19:42] <spacebarbarian> so just wondering if there was a 'correct' way to do it i guess the sudo method works fine
[19:43] <ghostconn> do anyone know how to properly crossfire ati cards? or will the system automatically run them in crossfire
[19:43] <ikonia> ghostconn: check if it's supported
[19:44] <jrib> spacebarbarian: su - NEWUSER   <-- you login as the user with NEWUSER's password.  On the other hand, with « sudo -i -u NEWUSER » you are logging in as NEWUSER but using the fact you are an admin.  You never enter NEWUSER's password
[19:44] <spacebarbarian> oh ok, but still i want to be basically in an identical environment as if i logged in via gnome and started a term with that user's account
[19:45] <aaast> I CAN SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE.
[19:45] <jrib> spacebarbarian: what's different exactly?
[19:45] <ghostconn> my system is running fine Im just worried because the cards are being powered up but 2 of my video cards are just sitting there doing nothing lol... would this affect them in any way
[19:46] <Random832> jrib: what's the difference between sudo -i -u USER and sudo login -f USER?
[19:46] <aaast> IT SMELLS LIKE A BLOATED SOFTWARE TO ME IN HERE!
[19:46] <aaast> IT SMELLS LIKE A BLOATED SOFTWARE TO ME IN HERE!
[19:46] <FloodBot1> aaast: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <jrib> aaast: do you have an actual support question?
[19:47] <spacebarbarian> jrib, nevermind you are right the problem was that .profile was empty and not running bashrc x.x
[19:47] <jrib> Random832: well in one you are running another command "login" using sudo.  Whether the result is the same or not, I cannot tell you
[19:47] <jrib> spacebarbarian: ok, yes the default .profile will source .bashrc (you can find a copy in /etc/skel/.profile)
[19:47] <Random832> .bash_profile isn't it?
[19:47] <spacebarbarian> oh ok that sounds better than copying my own there
[19:48] <jrib> Random832: not by default
[19:48] <Random832> oh
[19:48] <Random832> for some reason i thought .profile was a csh thing, but that's .login
[19:48] <jrib> Random832: bash will also use .bash_profile if it exists (iirc it will actually prefer it to .profile in that case)
[19:49] <eldiablo> how does this shit work?
[19:49] <IdleOne> !language | eldiablo
[19:49] <eldiablo> just got ubuntu
[19:49] <eldiablo> !language IdleOne
[19:49] <eldiablo> but seriously....
[19:50] <eldiablo> what can i do with ubuntu
[19:50] <jrib> eldiablo: do whatever you want?
[19:51] <dr_willis> computers are such a inflexiable tool... ;)
[19:51] <eldiablo> what are some cool apps i can download
[19:51] <eldiablo> and my tor doesnt work
[19:51] <eldiablo> so i need that fixed
[19:51] <eldiablo> asap
[19:51] <dr_willis> why do you need tor... and theres dozens of games out and other apps in the repios.. depends on your needs
[19:52] <eldiablo> well i got bored looking through all of them
[19:52] <eldiablo> so i was just looking for recommendations
[19:52] <eldiablo> im a very busy person
[19:52] <eldiablo> please dont waste my time
[19:52] <dr_willis> given the lack of details you have given us...  we have no idea what you are looking for.
[19:53] <k1l_> eldiablo: just download the top-downloads.
[19:53] <k1l_> you seem to be a very busy man, if you are that bored, btw :/
[19:54] <ghostconn> ikonia - can you recommend anything better then LMMS for producing ? something along the lines of Fl Studio 10 or Ableton?   I have a ableton live controller which is midi
[19:54] <eldiablo> basically hacker tools, anonymous email stuff like that
[19:54] <ikonia> ghostconn: audio production on linux (in my personal view) is unacceptable, os I do not recommend anything
[19:54] <eldiablo> yea buy a mac ghostconn
[19:54] <eldiablo> ya bum
[19:55] <k1l_> eldiablo: if you are just trolling go back to the windows guys :/
[19:55] <ghostconn> would it be possible to install osx on a amd system I have my old computer i can use however I can't surrender my linux on my good pc
[19:56] <eldiablo> ghostconn, yes you can dual boot it
[19:56] <ghostconn> eldiablo - a friend of mine told me it is hard to get osx working with a amd cpu any thoughts
[19:57] <gmachine_24> eldiablo this is not a place to exchange hacking ideas
[19:57] <lix> eldiablo: send me your credit card information and we'll send you the info how to become a real hacker!
[19:57] <lix> :-D
[19:57] <ghostconn> I have a amd phenom 550 and a 7770 i can use
[19:57] <gmachine_24> lix, priceless
[19:57] <k1l_> ghostconn: ask the osx support if that is possible. i dont see a ubuntu support issue with that
[19:57] <gmachine_24> eldiablo, yes, and please include picures of your underage children
[19:58] <ikonia> enough
[19:58] <ikonia> this is unacceptable for this channel
[19:58] <ikonia> the topic is ubuntu support - please keep to that topic
[19:58] <gmachine_24> ikonia, true. thank you.
[19:59] <eldiablo> gmachine_24, go suck a dick
[19:59] <ghostconn> how do i join the osx channel
[19:59] <grkblood> how do i check if there is an hdmi cable plugged into the hdmi port
[19:59] <eldiablo> ikonia, you too
[19:59] <k1l_> *sigh*
[19:59] <eldiablo> grkblood, do you know where the hdmi port is?
[19:59] <Phaba_> lol
[19:59] <k1l_> !alis | ghostconn
[19:59] <doomlord> has touch-gesture control improved lately
[19:59] <grkblood> eldiablo, that to
[19:59] <doomlord> eg magic trackpad support for ubunu
[19:59] <k1l_> !ops eldiablo
[20:00] <grkblood> eldiablo, im guessing its something standard in /dev
[20:00] <ikonia> k1l_: he's stopped
[20:00] <cliente> sd
[20:00] <nmmm> hi,  have a server with very high LA 100-150, when I do top,
[20:00] <eldiablo> !ops k1l_
[20:01] <ikonia> eldiablo: stop it
[20:01] <eldiablo> oh look i can do that to
[20:01] <ikonia> eldiablo: this is your final warning
[20:01] <eldiablo> duh duh duh
[20:01] <nmmm> i see lot of "system" percentage usage
[20:01] <nmmm> say 70
[20:01] <nmmm> user usage is about 15/
[20:02] <nmmm> how i can see where those 70% go to ?
[20:02] <lix> ikonia: why did you kick him? - I didnt get his credit card info yet! ;)
[20:02] <lix> nmmm: use " top"  in the command line
[20:02] <nmmm> yes
[20:03] <nmmm> Cpu(s): 23.5%us, 70.9%sy,  0.0%ni,  3.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  2.2%si,  0.0%st
[20:03] <nmmm> 70.9% system
[20:03] <lix> nmmm: you can also sort the top list by process, cpu, mem whatever
[20:03] <ghostconn> can someone give me a link to a osx channel
[20:04] <ikonia> gmachine_24: come on, you've been asked to use alis bot
[20:04] <ikonia> gmachine_24: sorry not you
[20:04] <ikonia> ghostconn: come on, you've been asked to use alis bot
[20:04] <ikonia> ghostconn: we are not a yellow pages of channel, query alis, there are many channels
[20:06] <FirePowi> Hi, I recently download Quantal Quetzal, and I Have a problem, it don't start
[20:06] <ghostconn> sorry i just figured a direct link would be much easier as im king of new to xchat and have no idea really how to use it other then to get hear. I don't mean to upset you or piss you off in any way and im truthfully sorry and thank full for all you're great help
[20:07] <FirePowi> "A problem occured while reading the config file /etc/prosody/prosody.cfg.lua
[20:08] <joao> hey
[20:10] <h00k> FirePowi: I would verify your image
[20:10] <joao> can I only use Cinnamon without any other desktop?
[20:10] <h00k> !verify | FirePowi
[20:11] <dr_willis> joao:  see what teh cinnamon support channels say. its not a ubuntu supported desktop
[20:11] <FirePowi> I cannot go on internet, i'm on terminal.
[20:11] <dr_willis> I imagine you could.
[20:12] <joao> dr_willis and what are the supported ubuntu desktops? (without being Unity2d
[20:12] <dr_willis> !info prosody
[20:12] <grkblood> is there a way to check if an hdmi cable is plugged in?
[20:12] <dr_willis> joao:  the ones in the ubuntu repos.
[20:12] <dr_willis> grkblood:  other then just looking at it?
[20:12] <dr_willis> or you thinking the port is bad? or cable is bad?
[20:12] <FirePowi> I have to delete XMPP server ?
[20:12] <dr_willis> !lamp
[20:13] <joao> hm.. one more thing, can I install a minimal version of Mint desktop? (without any additional programs, only the extemely required ones)
[20:13] <dr_willis> !mint
[20:14] <joao> Ok thanks a lot :)
[20:16] <invariant> Can someone tell me why glxinfo shows direct rendering: no, while fglrx is loaded?
[20:16] <mrgt> Is it possible to customize terminal so when I launch it a new tab opens with the python interpreter?
[20:16] <lazarus_> Python (v2.7) requires to install plugins to create media files of the following type: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) encoder how do i fix this issue on ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[20:17] <dr_willis> mrgt:  Gnome-terminal has profiles that you could set up to do that
[20:17]  * OpenSorce slap anastasya 
[20:17] <OpenSorce> sorry! Wrong channel :-)
[20:18] <mrgt> dr_willis, yeah.. I'm not sure how to go about it though..
[20:18] <dr_willis> err... file -> new profile......
[20:23] <DarkAceZ> battery icon in bar will not change
[20:24] <DarkAceZ> it's been sitting at 39 minutes left for about 30 minutes of charging now
[20:24] <dr_willis> you are using powar faster then it can charge! ;)
[20:25] <lazarus_> Python (v2.7) requires to install plugins to create media files of the following type: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) encoder how do i fix this issue on ubuntu 12.10 64bit greatfull for any help
[20:25] <DarkAceZ> dr_willis, it's brand-new :P
[20:25] <fantaghir> lazarus_, U use Java :D
[20:26] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/204293/python-v2-7-requires-to-install-plugins-to-create-media-files-of-the-following
[20:26] <dr_willis> the askubuntu lens is so handy. ;)
[20:34] <DarkAceZ> battery icon in bar will not change
[20:34] <DarkAceZ> it's been sitting at 39 minutes left for about 30 minutes of charging now
[20:34] <adaminsull> Hi
[20:34] <adaminsull> What is the lenny source?
[20:34] <needhelp> can anyone help i get get grub to load
[20:35] <DJones> adaminsull: lenny is debian, not ubuntu, you need to join #debian
[20:35] <needhelp> when i boot it says grub rescue   no such partition
[20:35] <Sta1ker> names
[20:36] <needhelp> im on a live cd right now and when i install grub and run find /boot/grub/stage1 it says not found
[20:37] <scottyg_> hi i cannot connect to an external drive on a win7 machine
[20:37] <dr_willis> hmm.. isent stage1 used by grub1 not grub2?
[20:37] <scottyg_> hi i cannot connect to an external drive on a win7 machine
[20:37] <DarkAceZ> scottyg_, ##windows
[20:38] <dr_willis> scottyg_:  you a external drive thats 'shared' on a windows machine?
[20:38] <needhelp> anyone have any ideas
[20:38] <scottyg_> i am trying to use samba, but i hear it is buggier than a polish girl's panties
[20:38] <DarkAceZ> Windows doesn't read ext
[20:38] <subman> I am getting the following in my error log when a user is trying to print over the internet to my computer.  http://pastebin.com/nifFwa52.  Any ideas on what is wrong?
[20:38] <scottyg_> dr willis....yes it is shared as external1T
[20:38] <dr_willis> scottyg_:  ive seen very few issues with samba, comapred to windows version of it....
[20:38] <scottyg_> i can see it from any windows box effortlessly
[20:38] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: works great for me (file sharing)
[20:38] <dr_willis> how are you trying to connect to it? can the linux box ping the windows box. does findsmb, or smbtree show the box and shares...
[20:39] <dr_willis> ive had windows boxs not see each others shares.. then the linux box does. ;)
[20:39] <scottyg_> that is good to here.  i wonder what i am doing wrong as i followed the tutorials to the LETTER
[20:39] <scottyg_> http://www.7tutorials.com/accessing-shared-partitions-ubuntu-windows-7
[20:39] <scottyg_> how do i do a find smb?
[20:40] <scottyg_> i think the tutorial was all wrong
[20:40] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: try accessing your linux shares from windows box by typing \\x.x.x.xxx your linux box ip
[20:40] <scottyg_> this cannot be as complex as it seems
[20:40] <scottyg_> ohhh yes....that is effortless!
[20:41] <scottyg_> but seing the windows shares seems impossible
[20:41] <mano_> Hey, is ther eanyone active who might be able to help with a few issues i'm experiencing?
[20:41] <scottyg_> how do i do a find smb
[20:42] <doomlord> its strange how its usualy  easier to use a cloud service to share data between 2  machines next to eachother
[20:42] <RandomPixels> i have some problems. df -h reports 75% use, but when i try to do some stuff (like apt-get update) it says "No space left on device"
[20:42] <scottyg_> where can i find accurate information as to how to see and create a mapped drive of a shared windows drive?
[20:42] <doomlord> cloud and usb sticks
[20:43] <scottyg_> where can i find accurate information as to how to see and create a mapped drive of a shared windows drive?
[20:43] <kostkon> RandomPixels, for a start, try clearing your cache:  sudo apt-get clean
[20:43] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: try in nautilus(file manager) -> go -> location -> smb://x.x.x.x
[20:44] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: type your windows box ip in there
[20:44] <scottyg_> i followed the tutorials to the letter but they all do not work....does anyone know how to use samba to add a windows drive to an ubuntu machine?
[20:44] <doomlord> network shares appear at ~/.gvfs or something?
[20:44] <scottyg_> ok stalker i will try it
[20:44] <doomlord>  ~/Desktop/.gvfs
[20:44] <ali__> helow
[20:45] <scottyg_> however since i have a dynamic ip, that will only work once
[20:45] <scottyg_> does anyone know how i can access my shared drive off of a dynamic ip windows box?  i am in the same work group!
[20:45] <nashant_> Hey guys. I'm trying to get samba shares working with a guest account but not having any luck at all. My smb.conf is this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1348918/
[20:45] <scottyg_> yes i can see my share
[20:45] <scottyg_>   but when i log in again i wont
[20:46] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: make your network static
[20:46] <_Emmanuel> I don't want to spam this channel so if anyone can spare 5 minutes of their time, could you please query me. I'll leave it at that, cheers :) - (new user, basic problem most likely)
[20:46] <TheLordOfTime> _Emmanuel, its not "spamming" if you ask and wait a bit
[20:47] <TheLordOfTime> _Emmanuel, we don't encourage you to use privmsg as a way of solving issues.
[20:47] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: it is something probably with zeroconf, avahi, windows or whatever
[20:47] <Sta1ker> _Emmanuel: what is the problem?
[20:47] <DarKMode> _Emmanuel try to use the paste url if it large text
[20:47] <DarKMode>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:47] <scottyg_> does anyone here know how to set up a share on windows from an ubuntu machine?
[20:48] <scottyg_> i will be delighted to post my smb.conf!!!
[20:48] <needhelp> can anyone help me with grub
[20:48] <scottyg_> too many people just tell me it wont work.
[20:48] <needhelp> i cant get my computer to load grub
[20:48] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: do you run windows 7?
[20:49] <needhelp> the grub rescue> prompt comes up and says something like invalid partition
[20:49] <Sta1ker> needhelp: can you boot from live cd?
[20:50] <needhelp> yeh im in a live cd right now
[20:50] <scottyg_> i am trying to access a SHARED DRIVE from a WINDOWS 7 box that has a DYNAMIC ip address from a ubuntu 12 box
[20:50] <needhelp> well live usb
[20:50] <_Emmanuel> Ok i was informed i shouldn't use privmsg so here's whatsup: When i boot from Ubuntu occassionally it loads and i can't see any icons, it looks like windows in safe mode basically with a bare desktop. I believe i have an nvidia graphics card if that helps.
[20:50] <Sta1ker> needhelp: do you use grub 2?
[20:50] <needhelp> yea i was
[20:50] <scottyg_> i followed this tutorial 13 times to test the theory, but predictably....it failed
[20:50] <needhelp> 1.99
[20:51] <scottyg_> http://www.7tutorials.com/accessing-shared-partitions-ubuntu-windows-7
[20:51] <VercingeTorege> hi
[20:51] <needhelp> i had a triple boot system going and something happend
[20:51] <scottyg_> i just want to share a hard drive that is on my win 7 box with my ubuntu box...i think it is possible
[20:51] <VercingeTorege> have some problem for mounting external hd
[20:52] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: i couldn't make it work on my network, if you'll figure it out tell me what was the issue.
[20:52] <Estragon> hi
[20:52] <VercingeTorege> hi estragon
[20:52] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: i'm using static ips on my net just because of that. but since then never had any issue.
[20:52] <Estragon> I just updated my system (12.04, just apt-get update && dist-upgrade) and now my ubuntu does not see my windows partition anymore
[20:52] <scottyg_> does anyone know how to configure samba to see a windows 7 shared drive?
[20:52] <Estragon> nothing on /media
[20:53] <VercingeTorege> estragon i have some problem
[20:53] <Estragon> any idea on how to check if it's still present ? And should I mount it manually ?
[20:53] <scottyg_> that is not an option for me stalker
[20:53] <scottyg_> does anyone know how to configure samba to see a windows 7 shared drive?
[20:53] <Sta1ker> needhelp: sry i'm not using grub 1.99
[20:54] <needhelp> i installed grub on the live cd and tried     grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 and it said cant find
[20:54] <scottyg_> stalker follow the tutorial i posted...i think it is a joke myself
[20:54] <Estragon> gparted sees it as /dev/sda2
[20:54] <needhelp> i dont think the version matters
[20:54] <scottyg_> does anyone know how to configure samba to see a windows 7 shared drive?
[20:54] <needhelp> its grub 2
[20:55] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: i remember that it was something with network discovery of windows that is not consistant or something. i don't remember really but i think that it was something with something to do with what machine is booting first.
[20:55] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: try booting windows after linux or the opposite and ofcourse turn windows network discovery on
[20:56] <Sta1ker> scottyg_: turn off your firewalls and go step by step from there
[20:58] <scottyg_> I TRIED THAT STILL NO MOUNT POINT
[20:58] <scottyg_> sorry
[20:59] <scottyg_>  //SCOTTYG-W7-DESK/E:/media/external1T cifs username=scottyg,password=pex571 0 0
[20:59] <Jordan_U> needhelp: The version does matter, you're following the directions for re-installing grub legacy.
[20:59] <scottyg_> that is in my fstab....is that correct?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> needhelp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[20:59] <needhelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1348959/
[21:00] <scottyg_>  //SCOTTYG-W7-DESK/E:/media/external1T cifs username=scottyg,password=pex571 0 0
[21:00] <needhelp> thats the boot info
[21:00] <scottyg_> who can help set up a samba share in win7?
[21:00] <TheLordOfTime> scottyg_, if windows 7 is hosting the share, perhaps ##windows
[21:00] <TheLordOfTime> scottyg_, if ubuntu is, then we can help.
[21:01] <Sta1ker> what is the issue again
[21:02] <scottyg_> they told me to come here
[21:02] <scottyg_>   this is funny no one can help do something that seems so easy
[21:02] <roman-s> hi, how can i update nvidia video driver if i have black screen in text mode and i can't install it when x-server is running?
[21:08] <doomlord> how do you enable 'scp' between machine a & machine b..  i have a desktop machine that accepts scp & ssh operations and a laptop that doesn't (both ubuntu 12.xx)
[21:08] <llutz> doomlord: install openssh-server
[21:09] <scottyg_> i shared a drive on windows 7 box, but i cannot map it from my ubuntu box
[21:09] <doomlord> will i need to add some daemon (?) to my startup
[21:09] <scottyg_> does anyone here know how to access a shared drive on a windows 7 box?
[21:10] <doomlord> windows->ubuntu ...  i've only ever found that difficult
[21:10] <zykotick9> doomlord: when you install a service though the package manager, it will be added to startup automatically
[21:10] <doomlord> thanks
[21:10] <scottyg_> try #ubuntu scottyg_ its probably something to do with it
[21:10] <lix> oomlord: by installing open-ssh server the installation takes car of ssh being enabled at startup
[21:11] <DarKMode> scottyg_ you have to in stall smbclient
[21:11] <boris-semat> I haven't seen any answers on this on the web but any one got a link or can tell me why Ubuntu 12.10 has so many issues on a Dell Latitude E6400? I tried several installs and just kept getting errors after errors, problems during shutdown and startup...I had to put 12.04 back on and that works fine
[21:11] <doomlord> can nautilus explorer use 'ssh' to explore other linux boxes filesystems graphicallly
[21:11] <scottyg_> on which machine do i install smbclient?
[21:11] <DarKMode> then try smbclient -U username //windowshost/dirtoshare
[21:12] <scottyg_> thanx darkmode...everyone else tells me to try in another channel:(
[21:12] <doomlord> scottyg_, i have found the easiest way to move files from one machine to another is *dropbox* lol
[21:12] <needhelp>  i cant get grub to load when i boot up my pc ...it brings me to the grub rescue prompt
[21:12] <doomlord> A->cloud->B is easier tha A->B, strangely ..
[21:12] <scottyg_> but on which machine do i install smbclient?
[21:12] <needhelp> and it says invalid partition
[21:12] <brunost> boris-semat: would be a lot more helpful if you could say the specs of the system indead of the model name....
[21:13] <scottyg_> should i install smb client on EACH machine?
[21:13] <boris-semat> sorry
[21:13] <DarKMode> on linux machine
[21:13] <rahsputin> hi. is there an Ubuntu Version that doesnt install Gnome or Unity ? I recall installing Lubuntu and still i had Gnome in the install
[21:13] <boris-semat> i'm somewhat new to the linux world
[21:13] <scottyg_> i will see if it is installed!!!
[21:13] <brunost> rahsputin: kubuntu, xubuntu
[21:14] <zykotick9> !mini | rahsputin if you don't select any *-desktop you can get a "naked" ubuntu using this
[21:14] <ghostconn> i need to add ndiswrapper to moduels I have opened up the moduels folder by entering  gksudo gedit /etc/modules  no how would i add ndiswrapper??  i have a wpn111 usb wifi... installed .inf file using windows wireless drivers, hardware is present but i get no connections?
[21:14] <rahsputin> brunost, does the current xubuntu version have usb-modeswitch ... since  only have an USB-Modem
[21:14] <scottyg_> dark mode.... as i thought it is installed and i have a fstab file.  i need someone to tell me if my syntax is correct
[21:15] <rahsputin> î
[21:15] <lix> 55
[21:15] <scottyg_>  //SCOTTYG-W7-DESK/E:/media/external1T cifs username=scottyg,password=pex571 0 0
[21:15] <boris-semat> Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz × 2
[21:15] <scottyg_> does anyone in here know how to use samba?!?!?
[21:15] <OerHeks> scottyg_, these 2 answers maybe the solution http://askubuntu.com/a/21726 & http://askubuntu.com/a/92804 > found @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/19361/cant-access-ubuntus-shared-folders-from-windows-7 it is a win7 security issue
[21:16] <boris-semat> and that's a 32 bit
[21:16] <needhelp> anyone have any ideas of how i can get grub to work
[21:16] <needhelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1348959/
[21:16] <brunost> rahsputin: xubuntu is at version 12.10 so I reckon it does
[21:16] <scottyg_> thanx oerheks
[21:16] <brunost> as its the same basis just a different desktop enviroment
[21:16] <DarKMode> \/dir //SCOTTYG-W7-DESK/E:/external1T cifs username=scottyg,password=pex571 0 0    try this one
[21:17] <DarKMode> you have toy creat /dir on you root file system
[21:17] <scottyg_> oerheks...maybe i wasnt clear.... I am trying to access a shared drive that is on a windows box FROM ubuntu.
[21:17] <DarKMode> yes
[21:17] <k3ithk_> If a package exists in the repos for precise, but not quantal, if I update, will I be able to install that software? (specifically libtrilinos)
[21:17] <scottyg_> your post was completely irrelevant to me
[21:18] <OerHeks> scott_k, then you don't read the post carefull, good luck.
[21:18] <doomlord> can nautilus use ssh
[21:19] <zykotick9> k3ithk_: not from the default repository.  from some other source perhaps?  packages get removed...
[21:19] <MaisonNotarathed> ok, I've used a <link/> in an html file, though it's not linking to the href="web.css" file... can anybody help me real quick?
[21:19] <DarKMode> mkdir /dir;mount /dir //SCOTTYG-W7-DESK/external1T cifs username=scottyg,password=pex571 0 0
[21:19] <bastidrazor> doomlord: it can.. it can mount directories via ssh
[21:19] <doomlord> i seem to have more luck moving things around with ssh than windows shares
[21:20] <k3ithk_> zykotick9: Thanks. I'll have to see if it exists elsewhere. It's not very widely used software
[21:20] <zykotick9> k3ithk_: low popcorn rates, play a factor in packages removals
[21:20] <DarKMode> mkdir /dir;mount -t cifs /dir //SCOTTYG-W7-DESK/external1T username=scottyg password=pex571
[21:21] <_Emmanuel> Should i be booting from 'Ubuntu' or 'Ubuntu 12.10' on load - What's the difference?
[21:21] <needhelp> how do i do a grub rescue from a live cd
[21:21] <tamas> leav
[21:21] <k3ithk_> zykotick9: What is a popcorn rate?
[21:21] <zykotick9> k3ithk_: it's a packages popularity.  how often it gets installed, and on what...
[21:22] <k3ithk_> zykotick9: Thanks
[21:23] <guntbert> OerHeks: was your last remark targetted at scottyg_ maybe?
[21:23] <OerHeks> gunbert, yes, win7 can be very protective
[21:23] <guntbert> OerHeks: he might it not have seen, you mis-tabbed :)
[21:24] <OerHeks> oh i see, misspelled scottyg_ <> scott_k
[21:24] <doomlord> ok nice, nautilus "connect-to-server" ... i can indeed quite happily explore one linux box from another
[21:26] <JeffBauer_> hey guys, my notebook has hybrid gpus, hd 4200 integrated and hd 6310 as discrete gpu... wich driver do i install?
[21:26] <JeffBauer_> do i install the driver for 4200 or 6310?]
[21:26] <brunost> JeffBauer_: both......
[21:27] <brunost> if you want both cards to work you install both drivers + whatever is needed to use the hybrid functionality
[21:27] <brunost> if all of that is available ofc
[21:27] <brunost> you can also deactivate one of the gpus in bios and only install drivers for and use one of them
[21:30] <JeffBauer_> brunost, is your name bruno souza tavares?
[21:31] <guntbert> !ot | JeffBauer_
[21:31] <JeffBauer_> okay, got it, sorry about that.
[21:35] <ghostconn> can someone tell me how to add ndiswrapper to my module
[21:36] <ghostconn> i installed a .inf driver for my usb wifi adaptor and it shows hardware present however i cannot see any network connections
[21:37] <black_13_> how do i add gnome to ubuntu server
[21:39] <BuGo_> what command adds user to a grou[p
[21:40] <jrib> BuGo_: sudo adduser USER GROUP
[21:41] <BuGo_> jrib: thank you!
[21:43] <ubuntu-fan001> hi
[21:43] <ubuntu-fan001> i'm on ubuntu 12.04
[21:44] <ghostconn> how do i extract a .exe file
[21:44] <ubuntu-fan001> how can i upgrade my grub to the latest version(that used in 12.10)?!?!?!
[21:44] <Seveas> ghostconn, if it's a self-extracting zip: unzip. If it's a regular .exe: err... what?
[21:44] <Seveas> ubuntu-fan001, why would you want that?
[21:44] <ghostconn> no it's a driver for windows xp i need the .inf file
[21:45] <Seveas> !info grub precise
[21:45] <Seveas> !info grub quantal
[21:45] <Seveas> same version :)
[21:46] <ghostconn> any ideas?
[21:46] <Seveas> ghostconn, boot windows, install driver, copy .inf and .sys file across to ubuntu
[21:46] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, but it's look different
[21:46] <Seveas> ubuntu-fan001, that's not grub that looks different but the bootsplash
[21:46] <llutz> !info grub2
[21:46] <ghostconn> Seveas : thanks
[21:46] <Seveas> (which looks the same to me between 12.04 and 12.10)
[21:47] <Kamakwazee_> There is little difference. The only thing I noticed was lack of version behind Ubuntu
[21:47] <Dayofswords> question, can only root lower a process's niceness?
[21:48] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, so how can i upgrade my bootspalsh
[21:48] <ubuntu-fan001> ??
[21:48] <Kamakwazee_> Is there anything specific we are discussing since I just joined?
[21:49] <Guest97240> Hi
[21:49] <ubuntu-fan001> ubottu, so there is different in grub2 in version 12.04 and 12.10
[21:50] <tron__> hi
[21:50] <Seveas> ubuntu-fan001, not anything relevant. I don't see why you would upgrade...
[21:50] <Kamakwazee_> Difference is most likely internal more than anything
[21:50] <meeedo> does lubuntu support pdf reading ??
[21:50] <Seveas> meeedo, sure, install xpdf or evince and you can read any pdf you want
[21:51] <meeedo> But I mean Arabic pdf files .. Do it support adobe reader ??
[21:51] <tron__> I cant seem to keep my wireless internet connection.  I have a wireless USB adapter.
[21:51] <Guest97240> ايوه يا ميدو
[21:51] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, i had trouble with upgrading my ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04
[21:51] <Guest97240> :D
[21:51] <Kamakwazee_> ubuntu-fan: what was the problem?
[21:51] <meeedo> حد عربي معانااااا
[21:51] <Seveas> meeedo, arabic pdf files aren't special, evince can read them
[21:51] <Guest97240> Windows installer for Ubuntu Desktop, I don't know why it's not working with me? any advice ?
[21:52] <Guest3221> Question:     I was about to install ubuntu on my macbook and wipe OSX when I read that I should partition it, leaving a small amount of space for OSX so that I can perform firmware updates in the future, as they are OSX specific. Is this true, and if so, how important are they?
[21:52] <Guest97240> ايوه يا عسل
[21:52] <ubuntu-fan001> i had /boot swap / and /home partiotion separat
[21:52] <Seveas> Guest97240, meeedo: english only in here please
[21:52] <tron__> I cant seem to keep my wireless internet connection.  I have a wireless USB adapter.
[21:52] <meeedo> Thanks alot Seveas
[21:52] <Guest97240> OK sorry about that
[21:52] <meeedo> يا عسل انت . اسمك ايه ؟؟
[21:52] <ubuntu-fan001> and i had dual boot with window7
[21:53] <Kamakwazee_> tron__: there may be a compatibility issue with the driver
[21:53] <tron__> I have an ASUS USB13N.  It says linux support
[21:53] <Guest97240> meedo t2dr tklmny khas?
[21:53] <tron__> using it now. but get cut off after a few mins
[21:54] <ubuntu-fan001> in the boot option i choosed the /boot partition
[21:54] <tron__> what is a compatibility issue?
[21:54] <FlyOnZeWall> my gvfs mounts are getting timeouts, is there some service I can restart to fix that?
[21:54] <ubuntu-fan001> and when i upgrade it with
[21:55] <Kamakwazee_> tron__: it is an issue where it doesn't work properly with certain hardware
[21:55] <ubuntu-fan001> it was giving me the grub4dos or somthing likethat
[21:55] <ghostconn> for some reason when i enter lspci my usb wireless dont show up? but it works with windows
[21:55] <ubuntu-fan001> and didnt boot
[21:55] <llutz> ghostconn: lsusb
[21:55] <vernon> Does anyone know how to get the Pinguy OS GNOME mods ported over to Ubuntu?
[21:55] <vernon> 12.10 of course...
[21:56] <ghostconn> llutz : thank you
[21:56] <ghostconn> llutz: it said no firmware?
[21:56] <Kamakwazee_> tron_: it is probably something to do with the built in driver. There are a couple terminal commands I can give you that may help.
[21:57] <llutz> ghostconn: what chipset?
[21:58] <ghostconn> i beleive it's a atheros... im not quite sure it's a netgear wpn111 wireless usb
[21:58] <spobat> hey
[21:58] <spobat> I just installed Precise Pangolin and my display driver seem to be gone
[21:59] <llutz> !info firmware-atheros
[21:59] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, did u get my pm
[21:59] <spobat> I can't set the resolution to 1920x1080
[21:59] <spobat> Do you have any idea what I could ddo?
[21:59] <Seveas> ubuntu-fan001, no
[22:00] <spobat> I have only 2 different resolutions: 800x600 and 1024x768 - which is very awkward.
[22:00] <XRS1> install Additional Drivers if its not already installed, use that to install the proprietary driver?
[22:00] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, i had /boot swap / and /home partiotion separat
[22:00] <BluesKaj> spobat, check the "restricted drivers" , or additional drivers  with alt+F2
[22:00] <sudo_> exit
[22:00] <XRS1> @ spobat
[22:00] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, and i had dual boot with window7
[22:00] <ghostconn> llutz : how would i find out what firmware it uses?
[22:00] <timposey> ok before when you wanted to run a program under wine, you had a menu button that said wine that opened to the wine program menu, how do you get there with 12.04?
[22:00] <spobat> okay
[22:00] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, in the boot option i choosed the /boot partition
[22:01] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, and when i upgrade it with
[22:01] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, and didnt boot
[22:01] <Kamakwazee_> Does anyone know where I post the artwork I made?
[22:01] <ubuntu-fan001> Seveas, it was giving me the grub4dos or somthing likethat
[22:01] <llutz> ghostconn: 1st find out what chipset it has
[22:02] <XRS1> ubuntu-fan001,  if your on the system with a live disk, run this command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[22:03] <Seveas> ubuntu-fan001, I don't know what you did, but that doesn't sound like the ubuntu upgrade process to me
[22:03] <Miklaus> hellooo
[22:03] <Miklaus> wow a lot of ppl here
[22:03] <Seveas> hello Miklaus
[22:03] <spobat> thank you, problem solved! :D
[22:03] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, i did that too
[22:03] <XRS1> while the rest of IRC fades into history, #Ubuntu remains
[22:03] <ubuntu-fan001> but the boot repair can not find my /boot partition
[22:03] <llutz> ghostconn: http://blog.radevic.com/2012/02/how-to-install-13855f01-netgear-wpn111.html
[22:04] <Miklaus> I would like to have help for my problem u.u
[22:04] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, but the boot repair can not find my /boot partition
[22:04] <XRS1> id say backup your data and do a clean install
[22:04] <Seveas> !ask | Miklaus
[22:04] <Miklaus> Ok
[22:04] <Miklaus> Well, I do my first installation of lubuntu o.s
[22:04] <ghostconn> THANK YOU!!!!  :)
[22:05] <Miklaus> I found a problem for open browser like 40 secs
[22:05] <llutz> ghostconn: read the last comment before being too enthusiastic
[22:05] <Miklaus> for open a browser
[22:05] <brunost> does anybody know if its possible to set up ubuntu server to boot from a pendrive to ram like freenas does?
[22:05] <Miklaus> I have a pentium 4 with 512 mb ram
[22:05] <Seveas> brunost, yeah, that's possiblt
[22:06] <XRS1> brunost,  yes
[22:06] <Seveas> Miklaus, with a computer that old you might want to try something lighter like xubuntu
[22:06] <Miklaus> really? lubuntu isn't more light?
[22:06] <XRS1> havent tried it lately but last i did, xubuntu was faster
[22:07] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, after that i did the installing again and choose the sda for the boot not thee /boot partition
[22:07] <Seveas> Miklaus, yeah lubuntu is light yoo
[22:07] <brunost> Seveas: XRS1: thanks, planning to set up a fileserver and freenas seemed like the best solution regarding zfs support, but aparently the zfs ppa for ubuntu works, and well... bsd is a massive step up :P
[22:07] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, and it's ok
[22:08] <XRS1> ubuntu-fan001,  by clean install i mean you shouold delete all the linux partitions and start over.  you should only have a windows, a reserved, a "/" and a swap partition
[22:08] <Miklaus> ok guys thx a lot
[22:08] <ubuntu-fan001> but the problem is that now when i turn on the system i see the grub menu
[22:08] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, but the problem is that now when i turn on the system i see the grub menu
[22:09] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, not the windows menu
[22:09] <XRS1> the normal countdown
[22:09] <XRS1> ?
[22:09] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, me?
[22:09] <XRS1> yeah thats normal grub is supposed to boot b4 the windows bootloader
[22:10] <XRS1> you are dual booting so you cant skip grub otherwise there is no point in having the other OS, you wont be able to boot from it if you arent presented with the option
[22:10] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, that is the case i set it to see the windows menu with the linux inside it by the easybcd
[22:11] <XRS1> append linux to the windows bootloader? try ##windows or ##windows-server
[22:11] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, why #windows they dont know anything about this
[22:12] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, i dont have trouble with my windows
[22:12] <XRS1> and we dont support the windows boot loader (unless i am not properly understanding what you are trying to acccomplish)
[22:12] <ubuntu-fan001> i have trouble with my linux booting
[22:12] <ubuntu-fan001> yes we are
[22:13] <spendythrift> any ideas why i can ssh with public key authentication but scp fails?
[22:13] <ubuntu-fan001> when u creat separate partition for /boot
[22:13] <XRS1> my understand is that when you turn on the computer, grub pops up asking if you want ubuntu, other linux, or windows correct?
[22:13] <XRS1> oh
[22:13] <ubuntu-fan001> and u choose the option for booting from that partition
[22:14] <ubuntu-fan001> for ex sda6
[22:14] <ubuntu-fan001> u dosent hurt the mbr
[22:14] <XRS1> you need to install the boot loader onto the boot drive (usually sda) grub is supposed to map it all out and know where /boot is
[22:14] <guntbert> spendythrift: in what way does it fail? what are the errors?
[22:14] <ubuntu-fan001> ok iknow
[22:14] <Troy^> whats a good app for monitoring network traffic? bandwidth etc i know there is a program that has a webpage interface as well
[22:14] <ubuntu-fan001> but this is different
[22:15] <ubuntu-fan001> and when its start the machin
[22:15] <ubuntu-fan001> u dont see the grub or ubuntu
[22:15] <ubuntu-fan001> it just go for the normal boot to windows
[22:15] <XRS1> im out of ideas. sorry. boot repair didnt update it correctly and ubiquity doesnt seem to be doing its job
[22:15] <Nsmurf> Can anyone show me a list of wireless adaptors that work with ubuntu WITHOUT ndsiwraper?
[22:15] <spendythrift> guntbert: the authentication fails and it rolls back to key-board interactive but user password doesn't work
[22:16] <ubuntu-fan001> u have to install the easybcd in windows
[22:16] <ubuntu-fan001> and define the grub there
[22:16] <ubuntu-fan001> ok thanx
[22:16] <guntbert> spendythrift: did you already disable keyboard-interactive?
[22:16] <ubuntu-fan001> seem to be i never get my answer here
[22:17] <ubuntu-fan001> and ofcourse my english is bad
[22:17] <XRS1> what is this easybcd thing?
[22:17] <portatile> ciao a tutti
[22:17] <XRS1> and why are you installing in windows?
[22:17] <spendythrift> guntbert: i did not
[22:18] <XRS1> if you install it in windows it sounds like a windows app you launch from the start menu or cmd
[22:18] <ubuntu-fan001> its nice and easy to use program for editing the boot option for windows
[22:18] <XRS1> ah
[22:18] <ubuntu-fan001> yes
[22:18] <ubuntu-fan001> it is
[22:18] <guntbert> spendythrift: hmm, are you certain that you try to acces the same host in both cases?
[22:18] <ubuntu-fan001> try to google dual booting windows and ubuntu
[22:18] <portatile> list
[22:19] <guntbert> !list | portatile
[22:19] <XRS1> um for what purpose? you dont need special software to dual boot with windows
[22:19] <spendythrift> guntbert: i think my syntax is correct
[22:20] <ubuntu-fan001> or u'll find usefull link in linuxbsdos.com
[22:20] <ubuntu-fan001> yes i have
[22:20] <guntbert> spendythrift: I was not talking about syntax - one common error is a wrong IP address
[22:20] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys! do you know how to activate the subwoofer in a Dell?
[22:21] <guntbert> !enter | ubuntu-fan001
[22:21] <ubuntu-fan001> i want grub to be seperate from my mbr
[22:21] <XRS1> "ubuntu-fan001> yes i have"  I don't understand
[22:21] <XRS1> oh i see
[22:21] <spendythrift> guntbert: ah, yes I am certain the IP address's are correct.  I'm trying to run the command locally instead of over ssh now to see if that fixes it
[22:22] <ubuntu-fan001> XRS1, anyway thanx for the time
[22:23] <smj> how do I fix a GRUB? do I have to chroot to a partition and reinstall it?
[22:23] <guntbert> spendythrift: and start scp with -v
[22:23] <XRS1> smj, ubuntu-fan001> yes i have
[22:23] <XRS1> oops
[22:24] <XRS1> smj, ﻿sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[22:24] <XRS1> run that command from a Live CD / USB on the computer and that should fix it
[22:25] <ghostconn> ok so i cracked open my usb wifi and found out its a atheros AR5523A-001
[22:25] <spendythrift> guntbert: it looks like roaming not allowed by server is where my problems start
[22:26] <smj> I'm not going to make a CD or buy an USB stick
[22:27] <smj> can't I just run it on this PC?
[22:27] <guntbert> spendythrift: what has ssh/scp to do with roaming?
[22:27] <XRS1> k then yes; chroot and install then update
[22:27] <ghostconn> i have a netgear wpn111 usb wifi adaptor thats shows no firmware with the lstusb command... I found out that it uses a Atheros AR5523A-001 chipset how can i install this
[22:27] <portatile> list
[22:28] <llutz> ghostconn: have you read the link i sent you?
[22:28] <nashant_> alright guys. I'm having samba issues. I can't get anonymous access working to save my life. My smb.conf is here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349173/ . Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!
[22:28] <portatile_> list
[22:28] <DJones> !list | portatile_
[22:28] <portatile_> ciao a tutti
[22:29] <ghostconn> llutz yes i did and i followed that tutorial with no luck
[22:29] <spendythrift> guntbert: idk, but it says roaming not allowed by server then a ssh2_msg_service_request and accept happens and it rolls back to keyboard-interactive authentication
[22:29] <ghostconn> i read the last comment to just thought knowing the exact chipset might help me
[22:30] <guntbert> spendythrift: in that case I suggest you have a look into the server logs - thats the first time I hear of that
[22:30] <XRS1> nashant_,  is this share on a windows or linux machine? who has ownership of the shared folder?
[22:31] <llutz> ghostconn: what is the output of "ls -l /lib/firmware /uath*"
[22:31] <mspencer> Is there a way I can access a Windows 7 Homegroup?
[22:31] <nashant_> XRS1: it's a linux machine, and user ant has ownership
[22:31] <spendythrift> guntbert: i'll take a look...thanks for your help!
[22:32] <guntbert> spendythrift: nothing accomplished so far :-))  Good luck!
[22:32] <ghostconn> llutz : http://pastebin.com/NT7mSz2j
[22:32] <XRS1> mspencer,  yes you can creatre a link to a shared folder on your desktop by right click -> create link -> use this as the address schema; smb://HOSTNAME/Directory/
[22:33] <pablord> Hey guys, can u tell me where can I get the official Ubuntu 'release' logos? I mean the specific logo of Precise Pangolin, Quantal Quetzal.. etc. I found some ones in spreadubuntu.org but these aren't official and some has non-commercial use license..
[22:33] <shoerain> So... DocumentViewer/b 12
[22:33] <shoerain> er
[22:33] <derek> i just did a fresh install of 12.10 - what do u i need for bumblebee
[22:33] <llutz> ghostconn: sry my bad, there shouldn't have been a space.   lsusb still says "no firmware"?
[22:34] <mspencer> XRS1: In the past when I've tried to access files on a Windows 7 Homegroup (not a Vista Workgroup), I'm unable to access them.
[22:34] <jrib> !art | pablord
[22:34] <jrib> pablord: check that wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork link
[22:35] <mspencer> XRS1: Also, if I set Windows to use user name & password to access files, Ubuntu doesn't let me access a share without a password set. Can this be done?
[22:35] <eni2-0> hi
[22:35] <Thisguy_> Hey, if I save a file as ~/.XCompose it should work as my custom Compose key settings, right?
[22:35] <ghostconn> llutz : yes it still states that there is no firmware
[22:35] <pablord> jrib, already did that, but there's no link to any logo =[
[22:35] <dormito> I am trying to use an AE2500 usb wifi dongle (which worked in 12.04) on ubuntu 12.10.
[22:35] <XRS1> ant_,  where is the share located?
[22:36] <jrib> pablord: are you sure?
[22:36] <XRS1> mspencer,  it will pop up asking for a password
[22:36] <pablord> yes (how do I mention to you here in xchat?)
[22:36] <jrib> pablord: just write "jr" then hit tab a few times to complete my nick.  On that wiki page it links to: http://design.ubuntu.com/assets/ubuntu-logo and http://design.ubuntu.com/downloads?search=logo&submit=
[22:37] <mspencer> XRS1: I know it does, but I don't have one set on Windows, and it won't let me leave it blank (it just keeps popping up again).
[22:37] <llutz> ghostconn: "sudo modprobe ar5523"
[22:37] <dreambox> Hello folks. I have Kubuntu here and just installed the ubuntu-desktop package - I'd like to try UNITY a bit. Question: how do I actually... run it?
[22:37] <jrib> me sees lots of logos there
[22:37] <dormito> I am trying to use an AE2500 usb wifi dongle (which worked in 12.04) on ubuntu 12.10. however after some inspection. it seems that the ndiswrapper module isnt loaded/presnent (from a ndiswrapper-v command) I have the utils and common packages installed. I thought ubuntu came with ndiswrapper install. how would I go about rectifying this?
[22:37] <nashant_> XRS1: where is it located? On the ubuntu machine at /storage/Media.
[22:37] <XRS1> mspencer,  you need to configure your shareing options in the windows network center
[22:37] <ghostconn>  llutz : nothing came up using this command
[22:37] <nashant_> XRS1: permissions are 777
[22:38] <pablord> jrib, yes but these are the Ubuntu logo, nor the "release" logo, like this: http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/poster/ubuntu-1304-animal-logo
[22:38] <XRS1> well heck id check all the samba dependencies and maybe try reinstalling them
[22:38] <llutz> ghostconn: pastebin "dmesg | grep -i firmw" please
[22:38] <jrib> pablord: I've never seen that before...
[22:38] <mspencer> XRS1: I've set up user name/password sharing, but the account doesn't have a password set.
[22:38] <jrib> pablord: my guess is those are not official
[22:39] <mspencer> XRS1: Is there any way to access the account's files without having to set a password?
[22:39] <ghostconn> llutz :  http://pastebin.com/peWD1Pug
[22:39] <XRS1> then remove password protected sharing or add a password (like you should)
[22:39] <derek> AAAAAAAA
[22:39] <derek> sry
[22:40] <mspencer> XRS1: Is this a bug in Ubuntu, forcing a password to be entered when there isn't one?
[22:40] <dreambox> Guys how do I switch from KDE to Unity?
[22:40] <mijansky> hello, can someone pls help me with my wireless adapter under 12.04?
[22:40] <delta> mijansky, wazzup?
[22:40] <jrib> !wireless | mijansky
[22:40] <jlangvand> deambox: Log out of your session, then select "Ubuntu" in the session options
[22:40] <llutz> ghostconn: unplug/replug the usb-device and pastebin "dmesg | tail -25" please
[22:41] <XRS1> dreambox,  if you have unity installed, log out and change the session type to Unity, if unity is not installed you can download with Ubuntu Software Center
[22:41] <delta> by the way topic about switch Unity to KDE i have a trouble after switched from Xubuntu to XFCE
[22:41] <mspencer> XRS1: Okay, thanks for the help!
[22:41] <DarKMode> nashant_ you have to add (guest ok = yes) to the share that you want to access it anonymously
[22:41] <jrib> delta: xubuntu uses xfce though...?
[22:42] <XRS1> mspencer,  no this you you enabling password prtected sharing, then not setting a password. you need to either set a password, or turn off password protected sharing in windows network center
[22:42] <delta> but on login screen you can choose
[22:42] <pablord> jrib, well, they use in summits, the installation splash screen (wich shows "What's new") and T-Shirts in store.. Maybe there is some .svg or .png in ubuntu artwork mailing list.. But very thks for the attention!
[22:42] <nashant_> DarKMode: I've tried that. No luck
[22:42] <delta> XFCE or Xubuntu (I don't know if it's any differences)
[22:42] <ghostconn> llutz : http://pastebin.com/ff9mWy6g
[22:42] <home> hey guys
[22:42] <delta> hi
[22:42] <DarKMode> nashant_ idid you restarted the service ?
[22:42] <home> whats the hardriver monitoring S.M.A.R.T program called
[22:42] <home> hardrive*
[22:43] <nashant_> DarKMode: yup. after every change
[22:43] <XRS1> seatools :P
[22:43] <llutz> ghostconn: sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ar5223
[22:43] <delta> jrib, so on login screen you can choose XFCE or Xubuntu (if it's any differences I dont know) but anyway I have big black panel and any effects;/
[22:44] <llutz> ghostconn: sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ar5523            sorry
[22:44] <jrib> delta: regardless of which you choose?
[22:45] <jlangvand> delta: If Xubuntu works, just stick with it. XFCE is the same desktop, but without some of the Ubuntu integration tweaks done in Xubuntu
[22:45] <ghostconn> llutz is that two or 3 commands
[22:45] <mspencer> XRS1: Okay.
[22:45] <delta> jrib,  I've choosen XFCE and than loged out and Xubuntu but it's doesnt matter. Now it's the same situation on both
[22:45] <llutz> ghostconn: "sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ar5523 "           one line, 2 commands
[22:45] <jrib> delta: create a new user and see if it persists
[22:46] <delta> jlangvand, maybe. Now i've a problem with it
[22:46] <delta> wait a minute:)
[22:46] <spobat> hi
[22:47] <DarKMode> nashant_ remove valid users = ant, nobody and force user = Nobody keep just guest ok =  yes
[22:47] <ghostconn> llutz: nothing happens with this command sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[22:47] <mijansky> !wireless
[22:47] <doomlord_> so ubuntu12.10 doesn't support the Geforce GT640 ?  ... it will display multiple screens fine but i'm having trouble with compiz
[22:47] <llutz> ghostconn: "no output = no error = fine"
[22:47] <user_> Hi
[22:48] <delta> jrib, on new user there is no this black panel but still without effects
[22:48] <XRS1> mspencer,  also dont enable parental controls if you dont have a password set. your computer wont like you
[22:48] <ubuntu-fan001> hey what is remote login in 12.10
[22:48] <ubuntu-fan001> and how does it work?
[22:48] <ghostconn> llutz : so you're telling me that its working
[22:48] <nashant_> DarKMode: Nope, still no joy
[22:48] <jrib> delta: so what did you change on the broken user's account just before this started happening?
[22:49] <llutz> ghostconn: did you run " sudo modprobe ar5523 "?
[22:49] <delta> nothing
[22:49] <ghostconn> llutz : yes i did run that command and nothing happend
[22:49] <user_> I need to have a dual boo in my PC, after install Fedora 17 i lost w7 boot and i dont have cd to repair
[22:49] <delta> only logged out than reebot
[22:49] <llutz> ghostconn:  pastebin "dmesg | tail -25 ; iwconfig" again please
[22:50] <doomlord_> is it just compiz that doesn't work:  I do appear to get 3d acceleration working ... just not desktop effectrs
[22:50] <home> so
[22:50] <home> no one answers my question :/
[22:50] <home> just want to monitor the hardrive
[22:50] <ohmygoddess> I want to download bulk manga, but there is no rules for the address of pictures
[22:50] <ubuntu-fan001> mine too
[22:50] <mspencer> XRS1: No parental controls are enabled.
[22:51] <jrib> !who | delta
[22:51] <jrib> delta: why did you mention "still no effects" before?
[22:51] <ubuntu-fan001> !tab
[22:51] <ubuntu-fan001> !
[22:52] <ubuntu-fan001> !list
[22:52] <ubuntu-fan001>  /msg ubottu !bot
[22:52] <ubuntu-fan001> !bot
[22:52] <home> hello
[22:53] <ubuntu-fan001> !alis
[22:53] <ghostconn> llutz : http://pastebin.com/dubHc9V3
[22:53] <user_> Hello
[22:54] <user_> I want to install a windows boot in may pc
[22:54] <llutz> ghostconn: bad luck... last idea: try to find a 64bit windows-driver and use ndiswrapper
[22:55] <ghostconn> LOL that was more then likely the problem the whole time or could it be that i have a 32bit or 64bit version of ndiswrapper
[22:56] <ghostconn> llutz : every driver i find is .exe is there a way to extract the .inf file out
[22:57] <llutz> ghostconn: " ndiswrapper (check_nt_hdr:141): kernel is 64-bit, but Windows driver is not 64-bit;bad magic: 010B"  <- from your dmesg.
[22:57] <llutz> ghostconn: aren't those exe just selfextracting zips? unzip it
[22:57] <scottyg_> i need help networking:(
[22:58] <scottyg_> does anyone know how to map a shared win 7 drive from ubuntu?
[22:59] <DarKMode> try smbfind scottyg_
[23:02] <maxbit> hy i hava ubuntu server installation on my pandaboard(omap4) i got all i2c devices but i have a incompleate i2c-dev.h on /usr/include/linux/i2c-dev.h the i2c_smbus_xxx functions are not described in there?
[23:04] <unrar> Hi
[23:05] <leno> I setup a firewall is it important to setup a tcp wrappers. Is it more secure than firewall?
[23:07] <datacide> howdy, I am trying to playback videos on youtube but I keep getting a message to install flash, the latest version, but i already have it. WTF?!?
[23:07] <hamo26> Nuub question. I am trying to do an ntfc parition on Ubuntu 12.1 using Gpart.  Its not allowing me to partition any of the current ones because they are all mounted.
[23:07] <gordonjcp> datacide: restart firefox?
[23:08] <datacide> gordonjcp, Done that several times
[23:08] <hamo26> Do i need to do it from grub?
[23:08] <datacide> gordonjcp, even rebooted the machine
[23:08] <user__> hi, y wireless card is hardware blocked. i tried rfkill unblock all and rfkill unblock 0 (0 is the identifier of the wlan0) i can see wlan0 wit iwconfig i don't see it with ifconfig. lspci and pshw show the network card. network manager says "wireless is disabled by hardware switch". i have a wireless button, but it only generates unkonw key entries in demsg. any ideas?
[23:08] <kahrytan> How do I remove overlay scrollbars and restore sane scrollbars?
[23:08] <thelinux> hamo26: Unmount them if there is a option.
[23:08] <hamo26> thelinux: I dont have that option it is grayed out
[23:08] <trism> kahrytan: which ubuntu version?
[23:08] <gordonjcp> datacide: hm, no idea then
[23:08] <hamo26> thelinux: I think it may be because they are currently mounted already
[23:08] <kahrytan> trism lastest
[23:08] <user__> i already tried to remove/instert network modules and rebooting. i also checked the biso but i can only set the wifi to disabled or last state :(
[23:09] <datacide> maybe youtube is being the prick
[23:09] <thelinux> user__: I knew a user who had similliar problem, did you install drivers?
[23:09] <trism> kahrytan: gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[23:09] <datacide> "You need to upgrade your Adobe Flash Player to watch this video. "
[23:09] <trism> kahrytan: you'll have to restart any running apps to see the change
[23:09] <maxbit> @datacide you checked add-on settings?
[23:09] <datacide> maxbit, Such as?
[23:10] <thelinux> user__: Go to dash, type software sources, additional drivers tab and install driver for your card. I know a person who had this problem.
[23:10] <user__> thelinux, jockey does not find anything to be installed in particular. also the wireless card gets recognized by iwconfig, lspci and hwlist. what would you recommend me to check?
[23:10] <hamo26> thelinux: Do you have any suggestions?
[23:10] <maxbit> check under Tools -> Extra if flash is listet there and is activated
[23:11] <user__> thelinux, i am currently under xfce (laptop is to weak - i am refurbishing it to give it away)
[23:11] <thelinux> hamo26: Why don't you try with default partitioner on ubuntu.
[23:11] <user__> thelinux, are you refering to the jockey program that finds divers?
[23:11] <thelinux> user__: Yes.
[23:11] <user__> thelinux, i already try jockey
[23:11] <hamo26> thelinux: Where is that?
[23:12] <kahrytan> trism,  thanks. I removed the package responsible  for global menu as well.  Hover effects of both overlay and menu are annoying as hell.
[23:12] <thelinux> user__: Who is manufacturer of your card and model of it?
[23:13] <user__> thelinux, to be honest i don't think it is a driver problem. i think that i can not access the hardware switch - but let me look up the info for you
[23:13] <datacide> maxbit, Hmm, what else can i do
[23:13] <user__> thelinux, lspic says Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg (rev 01)
[23:13] <datacide> maxbit, I added on other things for flash
[23:13] <thelinux> hamo26: Oh sorry I misunderstood your problem. I know I had similliar problem, I wanted too to partition hard disk. Try this: http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/13722.aspx
[23:15] <maxbit> hm no other solutions may check grafic drivers i only had the problem some month ago that the plugin was detected as deprecated version so it was disabled
[23:15] <thelinux> user__: I think it's the driver problem, since ussually for those cards you need driver, here it is: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt2400/
[23:16] <thelinux> user__: And this: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[23:17] <thelinux> user__: And to compile and install it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1683774
[23:17] <Cache_Money> I don't want duplicates of files (i.e. When I type $ ls  I see test.py and test.py~).  How do I make it so that my system won't make the second file, test.py~  ??
[23:18] <user__> thelinux, rt2400? my card is rt2500
[23:18] <jrib> Cache_Money: your editor makes those
[23:18] <belias> hello. need help with conky. i had conky that working but now they cant start and freeze at Drawing Double Buffer. But if i have only conky cmd its work with default conky setting - but isnt work with conky -c MyFile cmd. Please help
[23:18] <thelinux> user__: It will work with 2500, as it says on website.
[23:19] <maxbit> has some one allready worked with the i2c-dev.h on ubuntu server?
[23:21] <Cache_Money> jrib:  How would I turn those off.  I went into my vimrc file and include "set nobackup" but that hasn't fixed the problem.  Any idea?
[23:21] <user__> thelinux, the first link you posted says As of 2009-04-23, this project is no longer under active development. Also it states The Legacy Ralink drivers have permanently been deprecated in favor of the in-kernel rt2x00 drivers. See http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com for the rt2x00 project website.
[23:21] <jrib> Cache_Money: it's probably gedit
[23:22] <mcoffee> Let's say I had two command in a bash script file. One of them fails and returns an exit code that isn't 0. How would I prevent the next one from running in the bash script?
[23:22] <llutz> mcoffee: cmd1 && cmd2
[23:22] <thelinux> user__: Sorry than. Than I guess it's other problem.
[23:23] <user__> thelinux, i am reading the other links you posted - just wanted to inform you that the first one is outdates
[23:23] <user__> thelinux, or are these links the first 3 results of a google search?
[23:24] <thelinux> user__: Not really, I have actually downloaded that driver to see how it will compile, that link on forum helps since in this case isn't that easy.
[23:25] <thelinux> user__: Like I said, I know a user who had almost the same problem.
[23:25] <user__> thelinux, what was his problem?
[23:25] <Cache_Money> jrib:  You were right.  Thanks!
[23:26] <thelinux> user__: Card didn't work, even though system detected it and offered a download for driver.
[23:26] <mcoffee> llutz: thanks
[23:27] <user__> thelinux, no offence... i think the driver is fine. the problem is the hardware block. i think the following happened: there was win xp in that laptop before. wifi was disabled by hw-switch. linux got installed. no way to use the hw-switch again (shitty implementation that is not pure haredware)
[23:27] <user__> thelinux, i will still try your suggestion
[23:28] <thelinux> user__: No don't since like that site says, there was implemented driver into a kernel. Could it be possible to turn on card over BIOS?
[23:29] <user__> thelinux, in bios i only have the options "diabled" and "last state"  - very funny, huh?
[23:29] <escott> user__, you cant get it with rfkill
[23:29] <user__> escott, no
[23:29] <user__> escott, i tried unblock in all variations
[23:29] <thelinux> user__: I assume you tried rfkill unblock wifi
[23:29] <escott> user__, then its buried in the acpi tables which are possibly only good for windows
[23:30] <user__> thelinux, escott my last resourt would be to reinstall win, hw-enable the wifi, resintall ubuntu
[23:30] <scottyg_> have any of you ever mapped a win7 drive from ubuntu?
[23:30] <escott> user__, yeah and keep it dual boot in case it ever goes out on you
[23:30] <user__> thelinux, yes. i tired it
[23:31] <thelinux> scottyg_: You're unpure, you use Windows, delete it than you will become pure.
[23:31] <user__> escott, i don't have any win images :( - would have to organzie some :(
[23:31] <thelinux> scottyg_: Only way I can forgive you. Sorry.
[23:31] <user__> escott, i don't have the time for that since i can only work on that laptop until tomorow... argh!
[23:32] <scottyg_> that is so helpful thank you!!! i guess when one is ignorant, one blames other software...what a retard you are thelinux
[23:32] <scottyg_> win 7 is WAY better than any linux distro...you fag
[23:32] <scottyg_> smbfind: command not found
[23:32] <escott> scottyg_, whats the question... i didnt understand
[23:33] <scottyg_> smbfind: command not found
[23:33] <escott> !language | scottyg_
[23:33] <scottyg_> sorry but no one will ever help me!
[23:33] <rymate1234> scottyg_, hey
[23:33] <rymate1234> scottyg_, what's the problem?
[23:33] <amt897> hey guys, would anyone be able to help me out with an issue on updating from 12.04 to 12.10?  I don't have enough room on / and don't really know what I can remove.
[23:33] <scottyg_> all i wanna do is map a win 7 drive with ubuntu
[23:33] <amt897> can I somehow download it to /home and install from there?
[23:34] <scottyg_> thanx rymate
[23:34] <rymate1234> scottyg_, click the option in the file manager
[23:34] <escott> amt897, how big is your /?
[23:34] <ReAzem> escott, bigger than yours!
[23:34] <scottyg_> maybe you dont understand rymate
[23:34] <mijansky> !wireless
[23:34] <scottyg_> i have a shared drive on a win7 box
[23:34] <rymate1234> ohhh
[23:34] <rymate1234> so this is network sharing
[23:34] <scottyg_> i wanna map to it from my ubuntu box
[23:34] <amt897> escott: 7.54 Gib, 1.83 free
[23:35] <rymate1234> I have no clue how to do that
[23:35] <psusi> amt897, you need a larger /
[23:35] <ReAzem> scottyg_, Are you using nautilus?
[23:35] <escott> scottyg_, you should be able to access it with smb://ipaddress in nautilus. if you want a regular mount you need to create a CIFS entry in fstab
[23:35] <scottyg_> reasem  yes i am sir but the gui method also fails
[23:35] <rymate1234> Maybe you could install an ftp server on the win7 box, and use nautilus to browse it via ftp
[23:35] <amt897> psusi:  what do you recommend?  I'm on an SSD dualbooting with Windows 7, and my Ubuntu partition is only 27.50 Gib
[23:35] <escott> amt897, yeah thats just too small for most users
[23:36] <psusi> amt897, you just said it was just under 10gb
[23:36] <thelinux> amt897: Delete Windows 7.
[23:36] <amt897> no, root is
[23:36] <escott> amt897, i would merge your /home and / no reason for two partitions when its that small
[23:36] <psusi> actually 10gb should be about enough...
[23:36] <scottyg_> but i thought ubuntu was network capable!
[23:36] <escott> thelinux, stop that
[23:36] <rymate1234> I think it is!
[23:36] <scottyg_> have any of you ever mapped a win7 drive from ubuntu?
[23:36] <amt897> true enough-- can you merge in gparted from desktop or do I need to boot into livecd?
[23:36] <amt897> presumably the latter
[23:36] <rymate1234> However I have never attempted to do it
[23:37] <scottyg_> i followed 27 tutorials and not one worked
[23:37] <doomlord> git - ubuntu - are additional packages needed to get ssh sopport
[23:37] <psusi> amt897, you need to boot a livecd since it can't manipulate partitions that are in use
[23:37] <heliton> Can anyone help me setup LIRC with an Acer notebook?
[23:37] <escott> amt897, there is no "merge" operation. you would have to copy files off to another disk. remove the /home, and then grow the /, and copy the files back
[23:37] <scottyg_> this is the buggiest os i have ever used
[23:37] <amt897> gotcha.  psusi and escott, thanks for the help.
[23:37] <thelinux> escott: What? Sorry if I offended somebody or said something.
[23:37] <scottyg_> have any of you ever mapped a win7 drive from ubuntu?
[23:38] <escott> thelinux, this is a support channel. if you dont have a question or dont want to help people please go away
[23:38] <rymate1234> scottyg_, have you tried google yet?
[23:38] <escott> !google rymate1234
[23:38] <rymate1234> scottyg_, ^
[23:38] <escott> !google | rymate1234
[23:38] <escott> scottyg_, it would help us if you told us what you have tried
[23:38] <rymate1234> meh
[23:38] <psusi> come to think of it, I haven't since Unity... not sure how to do it with Unity
[23:39] <scottyg_> yes as a matter of fact i have tried that for the last 5 weeks and have yet to find a solution.
[23:39] <rymate1234> the thing is
[23:39] <thelinux> escott: Ofcourse I want to help poeple that's why I am here.
[23:39] <scottyg_> have any of you ever mapped a win7 drive from ubuntu?
[23:39] <psusi> ahh, of course
[23:39] <rymate1234> what HAVE you tried exactly
[23:39] <escott> scottyg_, yes. stop asking that question, and start telling us exactly what you have tried
[23:40] <rymate1234> try giving us more details and stop repeating the same question every minute
[23:40] <scottyg_> escott.... i have tried samba, i tried mapping and i tried 27 tutorials on the web
[23:40] <psusi> scottyg_, , open a nautilus window ( folder ) and choose file -> connect to server
[23:40] <scottyg_> i need to know if anyoine has ever done this.  it may not be possible
[23:40] <escott> scottyg_, and what were your results. did anything work, did anything give you error messages, what?
[23:40] <charlie> hello
[23:41] <scottyg_> psusi...it keeps asking me to reenter my credentials
[23:41] <escott> scottyg_, and we have answered that question. it is possible to moutn CIFS on linux, its also possible to use things like SAMBA
[23:41] <psusi> scottyg_, then you aren't supplying the correct windows login
[23:41] <nobru> coe
[23:41] <scottyg_> escott. i get a myriad of error messages each one different from the last.  tell me what to do and i will paste the errors that follow!
[23:42] <Guest72445> noo
[23:42] <scottyg_> really psusi?  cuz the windows box nex to me is using the SAME credentials and gets right in:)
[23:42] <escott> scottyg_, anything you tell us is more than the nothing you have told us so far
[23:42] <scottyg_> mount error(115): Operation now in progress
[23:42] <scottyg_> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[23:42] <scottyg_> mount error(13): Permission denied
[23:42] <scottyg_> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[23:43] <rymate1234> did you refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[23:43] <rymate1234> ?
[23:43] <scottyg_> absolutely!  i had a networking guru from work try it too!  he went home in TEARS!
[23:43] <escott> scottyg_, and this happens when you flush the toilet? or when you turn on the car? or when you run a command of some form?
[23:43] <scottyg_> when i run the mount command!
[23:44] <psusi> scottyg_, what mount command?
[23:44] <scottyg_> sudo mount -t cifs -o username=scottyg,password=pex571 //192.168.6.3/e$ /media/shares
[23:44] <escott> scottyg_, thank you
[23:44] <gordonjcp> the dollar sign looks wrong
[23:44] <scottyg_> i have to say that i hated microsoft for years but they know how to network!
[23:45] <rymate1234> linux knows how to network too ;)
[23:45] <BobJonkman> gordonjcp: MS file systems use a trailing $ for hidden shares
[23:45] <thelinux> scottyg_: Right click your C drive then go to Properties > Sharing > Advanced Sharing and tick "Share this folder" Than on ubuntu, open terminel and type:sudo apt-get install smbfs , sudo mkdir /mnt/c , sudo mount -t smbfs //IP ADRESS OF WINDOWS MACHINE/c /mntc -o username=<yourusername>,password=<yourpassword>
[23:45] <psusi> scottyg_, the $ has special meaning to the shell, you have to escape it if you mean a literal $... put a \ in front of it... or put the whole path in single quotes
[23:45] <scottyg_> that is only one of hundreds of mount commands...i am at my wit's end
[23:45] <rymate1234> Just not from ms to windows
[23:45] <gordonjcp> BobJonkman: I wonder if it's being treated as a special character
[23:45] <gordonjcp> BobJonkman: I should point out, I konw *nothing* about Windows
[23:45] <escott> BobJonkman, its still wonky. perhaps it should be escaped. scottyg_ have you tried escaping the $
[23:46] <BobJonkman> gordonjcp: I'm only good with WIndows on Windows systems, so far I have happily avoided cifs and samba on Linux
[23:46] <scottyg_> i will not share my c drive are you crazy?
[23:47] <scottyg_> psusi...i am way too new to this.  will you please write a mount command for me to try?
[23:47] <gordonjcp> BobJonkman: I'm pretty much a newb, I've only been using it for a couple of months
[23:47] <psusi> scottyg_, sudo mount -t cifs -o username=scottyg,password=pex571 //192.168.6.3/e\$ /media/shares
[23:48] <john> Is there anyone who is expirienced with GTK+? I have a compilation error
[23:48] <thelinux> scottyg_: Share whatever driver you want, you have those instructions there.
[23:48] <jrib> !ask | john
[23:48] <psusi> scottyg_, or sudo mount -t cifs -o username=scottyg,password=pex571 '//192.168.6.3/e$ /media/shares'
[23:48] <trism> john: pastebin the error
[23:48] <ikonia> john: why are you compiling GTK ?
[23:48] <escott> scottyg_, psusi, lost two 's need one after the $ and before /media
[23:49] <thelinux> psusi: I have written the same instructions for him, he still complains. No use.
[23:49] <escott> scottyg_, sudo mount -t cifs -o username=scottyg,password=pex571 '//192.168.6.3/e$' /media/shares
[23:49] <scottyg_> mount error(13): Permission denied
[23:49] <scottyg_> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[23:49] <ikonia> scottyg_: sudo
[23:49] <psusi> scottyg_, you left off the sudo
[23:49] <john> undefined reference to `gtk_application_window_new' and  undefined reference to `gtk_application_set_app_menu' come up as an error when i try to compile a .c programming with gtk commands in it
[23:49] <ikonia> john: you're missing headers
[23:49] <ikonia> john: check the dependencies
[23:49] <jrib> john: are you writing this yourself?
[23:50] <scottyg_> mount error(13): Permission denied
[23:50] <scottyg_> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[23:50] <rymate1234> (if you're wondering, sudo runs this as admin)
[23:50] <ikonia> scottyg_: stop repeating things
[23:50] <ikonia> scottyg_: you missed off sudo
[23:50] <john> the source is an example source so it should work, its from begginers on develope.gnome.org
[23:50] <psusi> actually that may be the windows side saying it doesn't like your password
[23:50] <scottyg_> escott: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=scottyg,password=pex571 '//192.168.6.3/e$' /media/shares
[23:51] <scottyg_> sudo mount -t cifs -o username=scottyg,password=pex571 '//192.168.6.3/e$' /media/shares
[23:51] <psusi> scottyg_, are you an administrator on the windows machine?
[23:51] <ikonia> scottyg_: you don't have to type everything 2 times
[23:51] <jrib> scottyg_: everyone has memorized that command by now...
[23:51] <scottyg_> mount error(13): Permission denied
[23:51] <scottyg_> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[23:51] <ikonia> scottyg_: why have you got the ' marks
[23:51] <jrib> and the error
[23:51] <ikonia> scottyg_: last time - stop repeating it
[23:51] <escott> ikonia, concern over the $
[23:51] <thelinux> scottyg: Are you trolling?
[23:51] <psusi> ikonia, because of the $
[23:51] <ikonia> escott: ooh really,
[23:51] <scottyg_> sorry should i remove the ' marks?
[23:51] <escott> ikonia, better safe than sorry
[23:52] <ikonia> scottyg_: no
[23:52] <ikonia> escott: a fair point
[23:52] <escott> ikonia, the shell may not care since its "$ " but its easier to put a quote
[23:52] <scottyg_> why wont it work?  windows can access the drive effortlessly!
[23:52] <thelinux> scottyg_: You need to type local ip of your windows machine there.
[23:52] <rymate1234> rymate@rymate-Aspire-5551 ~/Desktop
[23:52] <rymate1234> > $
[23:52] <rymate1234> $: command not found
[23:52] <rymate1234> dollars don't do crap
[23:52] <ikonia> rymate1234: errro what ?
[23:53] <ikonia> $ is not a command
[23:53] <ikonia> you can't just type it on your own
[23:53] <rymate1234> oh
[23:53] <thelinux> scottyg_: Go to terminal type: sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME  (type here your username)
[23:53] <ikonia> thelinux: ? that's setting a samba password in the local database
[23:53] <ikonia> he's authenticating against a windows share
[23:53] <escott> scottyg_, you have to have some patience. you are asking linux to connect to windows file sharing. its not surprising that windows connecting to windows file sharing works well (it would be surprising if it didnt)
[23:54] <psusi> scottyg_, try smbclient -U scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$
[23:54] <ikonia> has anyone checked where the auth is ?
[23:54] <ikonia> is it authenticating against local users or AD
[23:54] <psusi> windows might want you to specify the domain name as part of the user name...
[23:55] <scottyg_> session request to 192.168.6.3 failed (Called name not present)
[23:55] <scottyg_> Domain=[SCOTTYG-W7-DESK] OS=[Windows 7 Ultimate 7601 Service Pack 1] Server=[Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1]
[23:55] <scottyg_> tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[23:55] <scottyg_> thanx u guys for helping me!! i think we are getting close!!!
[23:55] <ikonia> scottyg_: is the windows PC part of a domain ?
[23:55] <scottyg_> a home work group
[23:56] <scottyg_> called scottyg
[23:56] <ikonia> scottyg_: so the users are local to a PC
[23:56] <pseudonym> i'm in a bind here
[23:56] <scottyg_> this is a peer to peer network with dynamic ips
[23:56] <pseudonym> trying to build alx drivers for ar8161 ethernet on 12.10
[23:56] <ikonia> scottyg_: what ?
[23:57] <scottyg_> i have 2 computers
[23:57] <scottyg_> one runs win 7
[23:57] <scottyg_> i have a shared drive on it
[23:57] <pseudonym> they require 3.5.0-17 build essentials or whatever but installing that package only gave me 3.5.0-18
[23:57] <psusi> scottyg_, try changing the user name to 'SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\scottyg'
[23:57] <scottyg_> the other computer is a laptop.  it runs ubugtu
[23:57] <john> this is a gtk program and out of the compilation, it has a few errors regarding undefined referneces http://pastebin.ca/2250470
[23:57] <ikonia> john: you're missing headers
[23:57] <scottyg_> psusi where should i do that sir?
[23:58] <psusi> scottyg_, in any of the commands you have been trying
[23:58] <scottyg_> change what user name?  should ui create one?
[23:58] <user__> is a kernel wizard around?
[23:58] <psusi> scottyg_, no, change what you specified as the username
[23:58] <scottyg_> i get you susi!
[23:59] <psusi> sometimes windows is stupid and insists that you specify the domain as well as the username
[23:59] <john> ikonia: i understand that but which ones?, also this is example code from developer.gnome.org, so it should work out of the box
[23:59] <psusi> scottyg_, and don't forget the '' around the whole thing
[23:59] <ale__>  !list
[23:59] <ikonia> john: no it shouldn't, not if you don't meet the dependencies