=== Toast_ is now known as Toast [00:31] yo, can anyone recommend programs for making technical sketches and diagrams? inkscape is a little too geared towards art, and I'd like to see what else is out there [00:36] !info dia [00:36] dia (source: dia): Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97.2-8 (quantal), package size 196 kB, installed size 578 kB [00:42] thanks bazhang [00:42] I've tried dia. It's like calligra flowchart/diagram: too geared towards flow charts to make it a useful general purpose technical drawing tool.. at least, that is my assessment [00:43] I'm checking out ipe right now === stuart is now known as Guest81884 [01:04] hi [01:07] my fonts are tiny for the apps that I sudo - any suggestions? [01:12] is there a way to force kwin to pass meta key to an app? for example, I like having meta + click resize windows in KDE, but Xfig, and lots of other drawing programs, use meta as a modifier key for mouse clicks [01:13] xixor: you can change the kde shortcut to something else [01:14] I'd rather not [01:17] I guess I could reassign alt to the windows key for those window operations [01:17] xixor: why not meta + shift + [01:17] meta+shift is not an option available in the "windows actions" settings dialog in KDE [01:18] oh [01:18] lol, kde. [01:19] robtygart: the choices are alt, or meta [01:20] robtygart: I like how alt used to be meta. The windows key became "super" key. But now windows key is "meta', and alt is alt. And the nomenclature of programs is a mixture of the various nomenclatures [02:10] Where is the config file forthe isc-dhcp-server? Prior to upgrading to 12.10, my DHCP server was working fine, now it isn't working at all, and the config file is still intact and the same place. [02:10] hi...would anyone mind terribly if i troubled you for some information on what might be the most useful file format converter for .flac to .mp3? [02:10] I am also experiencing random lag on samba shares, vnc sessions, and I believe that the NIC may be dropping packets. [02:22] Hm, so fixed the DHCP server issue, but I don't know what is wrong with the lag, input/output issues with network connections. It is happening over samba, VNC, ssh, and several other networking related platforms. [03:11] well... it's official... I'm starting to enjoy kubuntu [03:11] cool [03:12] took a while [03:12] lol, it's taking me a while too [03:12] I'm too used to the 'mandriva way' [03:12] I'm still not in love with using linux as a daily desktop [03:13] I've been using linux since about 96 [03:13] 97 for me [03:14] last windows system that was on here in dual-boot was NT4 [03:14] but... I still have XP on the netbook and Win7 on the laptop [03:14] does this have anything to do with kubuntu support ? [03:14] is anyone else saying anything [03:15] that doesn't change the topic of the channel [03:15] there are a few offtopic channels for chatting [03:16] ahh, back to sweet, sweet, silence. thanks [03:16] no problem, join one of the chat channels if you want to chatter [03:16] Where do I file a bug report for the kernel that is included in Kubuntu? It has some problems, that if I roll back to 3.2.x does not happen. [03:16] GH0: launchpad.net [03:16] !bug | GH0 [03:16] GH0: If you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers. [03:17] Thank you. === kubuntu is now known as Guest19813 === Test_ is now known as Test_L === GH0 is now known as GH0\TEST === shumski_ is now known as shumski [04:40] i have a fresh install of kubuntu, updated the system, restarted, installed vlc, restarted. vlc will play the dvd menu but not respond to anything after that. cant get the dvd to play. any ideas? [04:41] personal, correct, you need libdvdread and the css script > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs [04:42] after installing Kubuntu restricted extra's , sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 &&sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh [04:43] Then you can play ( almost! ) any dvd. [04:44] thank you so much for that link. (my first time on kubuntu) i suspected that a library like that (libdvdcss or something ) might be missing, but had no idea how to find that other than ask here. thanks again :) [04:44] have fun, personal [04:46] ooooo...how do i get the restricted extras package? [04:47] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras [04:47] or tru muon software centre [04:48] what?! i totally missed that! [04:48] ok thanks again [04:48] :-) [04:48] i got it coming down via command line [04:48] *bumbs head on monitor [04:48] i prefer comandline too [04:48] i cant *believe* i missed that [04:49] ! [04:49] yeah i'm an old unix geek [04:49] take your time, personal, to read the docs. [04:49] vi person [04:49] *perk! docs? [04:50] the community docs, like the url i gave you. [04:51] ooh so like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ without the rest [04:51] ? [04:51] oh, here are the official kubuntu guides > http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntuguide [04:51] *bookmarking in firefox ... [04:52] the ubuntu and kubuntu doc for dvd are the same. [04:54] there's a link to the restricted extras there too. i feel like such a noob. and there's already some ubuntu bookmarks in firefox! way cool folks! [04:55] yw [04:55] checking... yup, I still don't have a life. :-D [04:57] game over? [04:57] ok i tried hitting enter and i tried clicking with the mouse... my root shell has a ncurses looking dialog with a font liscense agreement in it and an ok button. how do i activate that ok button? (looks like ) [04:57] errm... lowercase k [04:57] maybe [tab] can reach that button? [04:57] tab did it [04:58] oke [04:58] *smacks forehead! i used to know this stuff! [05:03] vlc still not working, not even a menu this time. gonna try a restart........brb [05:03] Yes, after restricted it is best to restart, or logout/login again. [05:10] JontheEchidna: ping === Snowhog is now known as Guest6308 [05:19] ok restart did not fix vlc. you know the traffic cone you get when you first run vlc? i click on media > open disc > (/dev/dvd1) > play, the disc drive spins up and seeks some stuff then just spins, drive light is out and cone is still displayed in vlc. dvd does not play. any ideas? [05:22] personal: are you running vlc in a terminal window? [05:22] I'm thinking that vlc may be trying to tell you what the issue is, but you can't see it. try running it in a terminal window and then go through the same steps as before, see what the output is. [05:23] no ... i just insert a dvd, available options come up, i click vlc, (this is the other way i tried this) [05:23] the first was to just use the k-gear menu (kubuntu) [05:23] correct region set? or does that not matter anymore ? [05:24] never set region in kubuntu but it was probably done in windows 7 (customer computer) [05:24] personal: konsole === baka is now known as Guest8798 [05:27] just set region in konsole, (had to apt-get first) [05:28] personal: what's the command to run vlc? [05:29] same behavior as before... now trying from commandline ... [05:30] jedihawk, you are so right! oh! the error messages!! [05:30] it says there's no css library installed [05:31] i did install the restricted extras [05:31] and even restartede afterwards [05:31] -e [05:32] i read back, i missed a space between libdvdread & css, try again: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh [05:32] then it should work instantly [05:32] the command to run vlc is vlc /dev/dvd1 [05:32] my bad, personal [05:33] ok trying ... [05:33] i gave you " after installing Kubuntu restricted extra's , sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 &&sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh " notice the && [05:34] you might need to restart vlc too. [05:34] bingo [05:35] * OerHeks goes sitting in the donkey-corner :( [05:35] i did. it works! [05:36] ok it still isnt responding to the mouse input ... [05:36] jedihawk +1 that is the best way to find out any errors [05:37] :-D [05:40] *perplexed. [05:40] personal, about ? [05:41] any attemt to interact with the menu when it comes up results in vlc not responding to any further input + behaving as though paused without being paused [05:42] quit and restart and open same disc and it will open to the menu you clicked on last time you ran vlc [05:43] i been using vlc for nearly a decade and this is a first for me [05:43] haven't encountered that , what about a different player ? [05:44] *had heart set on vlc. hadn't tried anything else [05:45] wait ... [05:45] it's working but super slow and in slow jerky motion [05:46] audio cd , if so try amarok, video try dragonplayer [05:46] did you check additional drivers for your videocard ? [05:46] then you might get gpu hw support. [05:47] or kubuntu-restricted-extras [05:47] OerHeks, no ... it's an nvidia card that *really* did not play well with the nv driver in another open source unix system [05:47] i did get the restricted extras [05:48] dragon player didnt do so well either [05:49] like OerHeks says , have you checked additional drivers , they aren't installed by default , however the nvidia-current driver should work [05:49] 1080p monitor [05:50] from nvidia 3xx you get full hw acceleration, its a blizz. [05:50] 1080p , that's what I use as well , you need the nvidia-current to drive that reolution [05:51] resolution [05:51] jups, current is safe. [05:53] *uuuuggggghhh! *sigh [05:55] how do i get to the additional drivers? [05:55] type 'driver' in KDE menu, it will popup [05:56] you get 3 choices, use the 'current' [05:57] ooops! [05:58] is the kubuntu PPA safe? [05:58] additional drivers are in the kmenu>apps>system [05:58] personal, ^ [05:59] found it, OerHeks method freakin rocks! [05:59] safe as in stable? [05:59] AMDAthlon, for which kubuntu version? [05:59] 12.10 [05:59] yes [05:59] AMDAthlon, [05:59] ? [06:00] but i sorta activated the experimental beta driver, i canceled before it downloded tho [06:00] downloaded [06:00] & the packages are tested in that right BluesKaj [06:00] no personal install the nvidia-current driver in the terminal or package manager and reboot [06:01] Getting the correct one now ... [06:01] AMDAthlon, yes , otherwise they wouldn't be available [06:01] ok i see thanks! i will update to the latest KDE (4.9.3 i think) [06:02] tho i have a note to make here. card does do opengl but is an old 32bit pci card (predates AGP) [06:03] personal, which card is it ? [06:03] checking ... [06:03] AMDAthlon, yes , update , upgrade then dist-upgrade [06:05] nvidia geforce gt 520 (512MB DDR3) [06:05] that is no pci card, but pci-xpress, not that old. [06:05] pci, hdmi, opengl 4.1, "Zotac"? [06:05] the gt520 is not real old , nvidia-current will work fine [06:06] "Geforce cuda" [06:06] yup [06:06] I just instlled the same card in wife's W7 pc, and it is a pcie [06:07] O_o [06:07] it is a better card then mine, i am using a gt 430 [06:08] same here , mine's just an elcheapo 8400gs [06:08] ok, gotta restart again ... brb [06:08] it runs my plasma monitor [06:10] wife is a bit of a gamer , LOTR , and it runs fine, even has directX 11 capability with 1G DDR3 [06:11] this gt430 is a budget card, has vga/dvi/hdmi and i am using a vga-lcd monitor 1650x1080.it works fine, no need to upgrade. [06:12] right , the entry level cards are fine for HD video nowadays [06:13] thank you! thank you! thank you!! [06:13] :D [06:13] that fixed about a half dozen issues [06:14] and the dvd plays perfectly now [06:14] no hdmi , but I use a dvi to hdmi adapter cable , it even carries audio [06:14] good to hear, personal. [06:15] now you have an expensive dvd-player :-D [06:15] personal, your issues should be gone now , and desktoop effects will work for you as well [06:15] thank you! [06:16] now for sound ... [06:17] ok ,run aplay -l in the terminal to find the audio chip [06:19] alc662, ICE1712, ? === Jonno_ is now known as Jon_Severinsson [06:19] list the one beside card 0 === Jon_Severinsson is now known as Jonno_ [06:20] alc662 (card 0 is listed twice) [06:21] analog + digital ? [06:21] card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog] [06:21] Subdevices: 1/1 [06:21] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [06:21] yes the second listing is digital [06:22] same here, works OOTB [06:22] iok , sorry I should have suggested open alsamixer in the terminal [06:23] personal, are you using analog outputs to pc speakers [06:25] alsamixer [06:25] yes [06:26] personal, what's chip listed in the top left in alsamixer? [06:26] ok that looks cool! [06:27] press F6 to change soundcard 0/1 and then F3 for playback, check if any meter is MM muted. [06:27] (use arrow keys) [06:28] Card: HDA ATI SB F1: Help │ [06:28] │ Chip: Realtek ALC662 rev1 F2: System information │ [06:28] │ View: F3:[Playback] F4: Capture F5: All F6: Select sound card │ [06:28] │ Item: Master [dB gain: -20.00] [06:29] the needed outputs are not mm but some of the other stuff is [06:30] *trying not to flood too badly, sorry [06:31] for multiple lines, use paste.ubuntu.com please, and copy the url [06:31] personal, well any outputs you need should be 00, not MM [06:32] DHT doesn't appear to be working in ktorrent (magnet links aren't finding peers). Any idea how I can test if that's the problem, or where I should look? [06:32] oh good, cuz the ones i need do say 00 [06:33] ok personal , in the terminal do , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel [06:33] naught103, try the kubuntu torrent http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ those should work fine. [06:34] naught103, magnet links too. so if there are no pears, contact those guys. [06:35] no output BluesKaj [06:36] personal, if the modprobe command loads the audio module properly , there will be no output after the command [06:36] oh! [06:36] OerHeks: those torrents have trackers though... [06:36] (and no, it's not working anyway... no peers [06:37] personal,and if you want to unmute to (00) from MM use the M key [06:37] ok, now there are peers, aftern manually updating the tracker [06:37] sound works! :D [06:38] personal, cool :) [06:40] i've asked for too much today already. thanks so much folks! we have full screen, hi-res video with sound. bbl [06:40] have fun! [06:40] thanks! [06:40] *bouncing off the walls! [06:41] naught103, you could have used this site, http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download [06:42] BluesKaj: I'm not trying to download kubuntu. I'm trying to figure out why ktorrent isn't working. [06:42] another happy customer :) [06:42] if a program wants to install to /usr/local/bin/ and I want to install it to /usr/bin/ , what parameter do I give cmake? [06:42] it might be the site , naught103 [06:42] BluesKaj: it's not. No torrent is working. [06:42] kubuntu torrent was just a test, if that failed, you needed to open ports. [06:44] avihay, why /usr/bin ? [06:44] to override the packaged version [06:45] well remove the packaged version before compiling [06:46] OerHeks: hrm. possibly. I have never had trouble on this network before, and have tried it on another network too [06:49] naught103, if it doesn't work and there are no peers , move on to something that does [06:52] hrm... yes, qbittorrent is working. Guess I will try wiping the ktorrent config [06:52] BluesKaj: stil wants to install to local [06:54] avihay, bhen it's obviously the default path [06:54] err then [06:55] $ cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr solves it [06:58] avihay, well , if there's an optional path then it's your choice, I imagine /usr/bin is ok [06:59] I prefer to adhere to the distro's standard [07:01] avihay, I've seen /usr/local/bin as a default path for compiled apps recently ..why , is a mystery [07:02] well ,it's getting late here , sacktime for me ....night all [07:04] thanks BluesKaj goodnight === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === BiN is now known as Guest76428 [07:44] there was a time when one could remove certain links from google search results, cant find any way of doing it now [07:45] softpile.com has to go, how do i keep myself from opening that site? [07:47] almoxarife: (some offtopic channel would be more suitable for this) if you go back to search results, it should give an option to "skip this site" in search results or something along those lines [07:51] Tm_T: it does not, btw, i didnt make myself clear, i want to keep an address block from completing connection, 184.172.0.0/18 <-- that one, firewall rule? [07:52] but its outgoing though, that confuses me on how to [07:53] almoxarife: if you set softpile.com to point to your localhost in /etc/hosts then you never open that site? [07:55] Tm_T: wont work either, hosts is literal, softpile places chunks of the search to the web address, so in all cases its xxxx.softpile.com [07:55] too many variables [07:56] * almoxarife uses hosts to filter [08:23] quassel bullshit. ) and kde too. ) [08:24] тупое тормозное говно ) [08:35] How can I convert ext4 to btrfs without reinstalling kubuntu 12.10? === Test is now known as Test_L [09:17] * jedihawk still has no life. [09:19] jedihawk: who does? they lie! === newbie is now known as Guest83460 [09:24] hi === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === dejan is now known as fvyy === shumski__ is now known as shumski === shumski is now known as shumski__ === shumski__ is now known as shumski [11:02] i have a file containing for each line a web-address, i want to add to each line prior to the web-address '127.0.0.1' followed by a fewspaces, how can i do this? === ravindra is now known as Guest84260 [11:38] almoxarife: assuming the web address start with http: sed 's#http://#127.0.0.1 http://#' [11:40] yofel_: the web adresses are all different without the 'http' [11:40] are they somewhere in the line or at the beginning of a line? [11:41] yofel_: microchip on #suse already helped me, would you like to see his line? [11:41] sure [11:42] cat yourfile | sed 's|^|127.0.0.1 |g' > newfile <-- yofel_ [11:42] yofel_: worked like a charm [11:43] yep, that's what I had suggested next as ^ is the start of a line [11:44] yofel_: the file originally contained a web addresses , dnsmasq needs the '127........' before the web-adress if i want to ignore the site [11:44] ah, so that's supposed to look like /etc/hosts [11:44] yofel_: exactly [11:45] yofel_: although rather than having a hosts file that is a mile long one breaks it into separate files [11:46] heh [11:47] yofel_: and running as the home dns cache server it keeps a royal butt ton of crap from showing up when browsing [12:26] a [13:06] How do i get color inside the square when using mouse, it was enabled by default on mint kde but not on kubuntu [13:07] And how do i disable the "Desktop" thing on upper right corner of the desktop [13:10] put mouse in square, hit mouse with hammer, square turns red? [13:16] AKnot_: the desktop thing in the top corner is not disableable. the best you can do is move it all the way into the corner so that it is hidden a bit [13:17] :( [13:17] But how do i get the mouse thing? [13:18] Is it an "effect" or appearance or what, its not in mouse settings [13:20] I don't understand what you are trying to do [13:21] xixor, go to desktop press left mouse and drag. [13:23] Hey! Do you guys know if I can install the krunner plugin for appmenus? I read about it here http://www.afiestas.org/appmenu-runner-meet-the-kde-hud/ [13:24] maybe you mean right click the desktop->default desktop settings, and in view->view->layout, select folder view, apply ? [13:25] So anyone know? [13:25] avihay, i have folder view. I can do the mouse drag thing i can only see the outer white lines. I want there to be light colour inside the square like normally there is [13:28] maybe you need to change your color theme, or desktop theme. mine has a blue outline and blue fill [13:29] Selection Background, I think [13:30] Tried, its not [13:32] I dont think its in colours since its 100% transparent. If it had any colour i would see it [13:32] I'm not able to select and drag a square on my desktop at all... I guess you need an applet/widget on the desktop showing folders or some junk? [13:33] Selection -> Normal Background, just tried it [13:36] its set to light blue on me but i cant see it. Must a a kubuntu bug then [13:36] :/ [13:36] because i could see it in mint kde by default [13:37] you have composting/desktop effects/opengl support and all that working? [13:37] atleast wobbly windows are working [13:39] this is very annoying [13:40] must be horrid [13:40] i try installing prop drivers [13:55] any idea why the pointer would move but clicks never happen when i run kubuntu 12.10 on a webtab or exopc? [14:10] hola [14:10] soy nuevo en esto [14:10] esto es un chat? [14:20] sup y'all: what is the fastest/eastiest way to take a screenshot, and get it hosted on imgur or one of those image sharing sites? Anyone have a neat widget/plasmoid/applet/whatever? I currently take screenshot, save as .png, copy to my webserver, copy it to folder. Not that it's that hard at all. But if there was a way I could do it in one step,that'd be sweet === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [14:24] xixor: pastebin plasmoid? [14:24] xixor: drag from screenshot app to it and that's it [14:25] an that plasmoid exist on a panel? or does it need to be on the desktop [14:25] xixor: i have it on the desktop in a corner [14:28] Torch: cool, thanks, I added that to my panel... works great [15:09] dont know if this is possible, but could someone help me create a submenu that autopopulates in Klauncher? === faLUCE is now known as faLUCE1 [15:10] so say point it to ~/Documents now all the Files and folders in Documents show show up in a new submenu === paolo is now known as faLUCE [15:14] help, I just upgraded to quantal and now I can't log in... kdm comes up, I enter my passsword, the screen goes blank, and then goes back to the login screen. Home is mounted and I can get to it from a console [15:14] is there a kdm login error file in /var/log somewhere? [15:14] Hi all [15:15] kdm.log has nothing useful... [15:15] * jedihawk still has no life. [15:17] Lol i noticed the reason why i cant see the selection background. It doesnt work on "plastique" style. On oxygen it works [15:21] lol, u have no lifes [15:22] rijack: can you add a folder view widget to the Klauncher I wonder/ [15:22] rijack: I have exactly as you describe on a panel using the "Folder View" widget [15:26] well with klauncher that would likely require quite a bit of programing proficiency as klauncer is already a widget but let me see what i can do directly on the taskbar [15:28] thankshm..... [15:29] rijack: the "computer" section of the application launcher already has somethign like that, a computer view [15:44] Where can i see my catalyst drivers version? [15:50] AKnot, kmenu>apps >settings [15:51] you mean catalyst control center? i cant see it there [15:54] AKnot, well that's where my nvidia gui settings are [15:54] type catalyst in the kmenu search [15:55] Well it i guess its the 12.10. Doesnt ubuntu always have the newest proprietary driver in the "additional drivers". [15:55] blueskaj i cant see version number in the catalyst menu [15:56] for ati driver version or catalyst control version ? [15:56] ati driver [15:57] AKnot, glxinfo | grep OpenGL [15:58] in the terminal , AKnot [15:58] The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: [15:58] sudo apt-get install mesa-utils [15:58] yes [15:58] do that then run the OpenGL command again [15:59] OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [15:59] OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series [15:59] OpenGL version string: 4.2.11903 Compatibility Profile Context [15:59] OpenGL shading language version string: 4.20 [15:59] OpenGL extensions: [15:59] AKnot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:00] And why are the drivers called firegl? i dont have firegl card [16:01] you know, KDE really is so configurable. So much so that I think that using someone elses machine would be a pita [16:01] i have hd 5700 [16:02] AKnot, look in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers [16:03] AKnot, drivers are given different names than the graphics cards in many cases [16:04] because they can be used by several differnt cards by the same mfgr [16:12] man... I love virtualbox so much. Have a windows VM, with iTunes, my Garmin GPS running watch software, all my training software that is windows only, etc, all right there in linux for me, and all the training data is synced via dropbox from the windows guest [16:13] BBL [16:16] xixor: is there anyway I can run Itune with out needing to have a VM of Windows? [16:16] Whats the point of using windows programs when there is linux equivelant? [16:16] Aknot: ? [16:17] What else can I use for my Ipod? [16:17] I tried Banshee but it does not detect it. [16:20] try clementine [16:20] i think it does [16:20] Thanks I will check it out. Now I need to find my wire for the ipod. lol [16:21] robtygart: as for itunes, it doesn't work with wine, so you need a VM/dual boot to use it [16:22] robtygart: no idea [16:22] robtygart: maybe iTunes will work in wine [16:22] ezi0d: Ok, I really don't want to put MS on my computer I will look for a linux version [16:23] robtygart: if all you need to sync is music, i think there are alternatives [16:23] ezi0d: Yes just music. [16:24] I like iTunes. My ipod is my primary music storage. I don't keep music on my various computers and try to sync it... I just use my ipod [16:24] then there is gtkpod. Its gtk but i dont think it matters [16:25] Ok cool thank you! === Vito_away is now known as Vito === shumski_ is now known as shumski [17:06] morning folks [17:07] hi dougl [17:11] hi BluesKaj how are you today? [17:11] fine thanks dougl , and you ? [17:11] I see your issue on #kde [17:12] not too bad... got a foot of snow so kinda bummed about winter but am blessed with a healthy/helpful boy and a nice snowblower so I wont let it get me down :) [17:13] yeah - still having issues with my fonts... not sure what to make of them or the messages - any thots> [17:13] ? [17:13] you can setup your fonts for apps that require root permission with kdesudo systemsettings command in krunner [17:14] then just go abouyt setting your font prefernces as you would with user system settings [17:15] I tried to run krunner from cli and gave me errors... [17:15] also , do an update and dist-upgrade first , I should have mentioned that [17:16] < a little fuzzy today , was out at a garage gig last night [17:16] BluesKaj, you did not even need to say it... that was the last thing I did yesterday while contemplating the issue - will check now again [17:17] dup [17:18] yeah - is up to date... still getting 404 errors when I update too. [17:18] xixor, hello [17:19] dougl, probly repos that aren't available [17:21] Whats the name of the program which opens .deb files? [17:21] the unavailable repos aren't going to affect anything , however your font error isn't familiar [17:21] dougl,^ [17:21] BluesKaj, yeah - they are the least of my worries but am waiting for my machine to depend on one of those resources and it not be there... time to install 13.04 lol [17:21] dpkg [17:22]