=== cpg|away is now known as cpg [00:32] hi! I'm working on setting up a little home server (my first server I may add) and I am trying to figure out what would be the best way to deal with a drive to run the OS on [00:32] You only have 1 drive? [00:32] or multiple? [00:33] gdeeble: I'll have a raidz of 4 drives for storage [00:33] I am trying to figure out what solition to go for for storing the OS [00:33] optimally a solution like freenas where it loads an image from a pendrive to ram would be the best [00:34] but I don't really have enough knowledge about this myself to figure out if this is a clever solution [00:34] brunost: See I have my os on 1 drive then mounted my raid to a mount point. [00:35] duli, I was thinking also about such concepts (just using xen ... but I didn't get the xen live image working as wanted wanted and had to stop due to missing time resources) [00:35] ironm: i'd like to use ubuntu on the flash drive as a server solely for manage virtual machines. The real storage will be built on 3 HDs using ZFS [00:35] but ubuntu-server is definitively the best base for kvm hosts [00:35] ofc I'll keep the OS on a separate drive, just not sure if I should try out loading from usb to ram or use a 2.5" drive of some sort [00:35] ironm: i think so algo. [00:36] ironm: but I've given up the idea of using ubuntu-server on a usb stick [00:36] would require a lot of tweaks to reduce disk writes [00:36] brunost: depends on your needs. I have a little hard drive running my os, but USB solutions are def. nice as long as everything wants to play ball. [00:36] I'll go with a simple notebook hd (5400 rpm) to t install the sustem [00:37] gdeeble: thats the thing, will I get it to play nicely [00:37] duli, I gave such ideas too ;) ... I run ubuntu-servers as kvm hosts on raid5 or raid6 (with 4 or 8 drives) .. and use additional raid5 or raid6 as storage for VMs [00:38] duli, well .. when you run in live you don't need really to care if your KVM host have enough RAM (ECC) [00:39] gdeeble, I use own debian live images (booting from a USB stick) for my daily work .. it works great :) [00:39] ironm: sure, but my concern would be the usb key falling appart in a short period of time [00:39] ironm: since you mentioned kvm [00:39] duli, yes .. that can happen [00:39] brunost: I never had success myself but I am still a novice at this. I ended up using Zentyal which uses ubuntu with a web management face. [00:39] gdeeble, eg. ... http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/postgresql/live-wheezy-amd64-awesome-public-databases-20121024e.iso [00:40] ironm: is it possible to open a vm machine remotely, using the virt-manager? [00:40] duli, yes [00:40] duli, like: ironm@wheezy:~$ virt-manager -c qemu+ssh://192.168.1.75/system [00:40] ironm: ah, that's so great! [00:41] ironm: so I can perfom the os install on the vm remotely, right? [00:41] ironm: I always ran into something but I think my problem was lack of patience and knowledge when I was trying. [00:42] duli, 192.168.1.75 is a ubuntu-server KVM host (HP DL385g7 ,,, with 32 or 64GB ECC RAM and 2 pieces of P410 RAID controller with 1GB cache each ... and 16 SCSI drives) [00:42] but that was a few years ago. [00:43] duli, you have to put .iso images for the installation inside /var/lib/libvirt/images/ an the KVM host, but the installation of VMs happen mostly from remote client (with the command like above) [00:43] ironm: ah, ok, that was my doubt [00:43] well, fair enough [00:43] seems nice [00:44] virt-manager doesn't offer you the possbility to use local .iso images on the virt-manager client for installation on the KVM host [00:47] duli, you need "virtual machine host" tasksel option of ubuntu-server to install the KVM host. You need also the ssh-server tasksel option for virt-manager (remote) [00:47] ironm: ok, that's totally fine. I could always do a scp to the kvm host [00:47] ironm: ok,. I just complet4ed the install and selected those to options [00:47] ironm: I already have ssh access to it [00:48] ironm: do you recommend ant specific tutorial on kvm/ubuntu? [00:49] gdeeble, now a day linux live images are very comfortable [00:50] duli, eg. this one : Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-6-Virtualization_Host_Configuration_and_Guest_Installation_Guide-en-US.pdf [00:50] I can't find the link [00:50] ironm: no prob., I'll go through the redhat manuals [00:51] tks a lot [00:51] duli, give me few minutes . I have some links also for ubuntu [00:51] ok [00:52] duli, may I pc you? (query) [00:52] sure === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts [02:51] hello, i am trying to setup the 2nd nic in my server for a local connection to another machine through a swtich using static IP and it isn't working, this is my interface file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349628/ am I missing something in my interface file or something else i needed to do. If I reboot the interface doesn't automatically come up and if I bring it up manual it doesn't ever list as having the address set in the interface file. [02:54] two things [02:55] you can't have more than one default gateway without a lot of extra config, or it will just choose at random which interface to send traffic out of [02:55] and you're missing auto eth1 [02:55] and you can't have IPs from the same subnet on different interfaces [02:55] I lied, three things [02:56] ok so do i just not set a gateway on the 2nd nic then? And I have differnt subnets DHCP gives out 192.168.1.x and the static is 192.168.0.141. [02:56] yes [02:56] you only set a gateway on your internet-facing side [02:57] if you have more than one internet-facing address, you have to do some extra stuff to get it to either prefer one or load balance [02:57] dhcp sets a gateway automatically, so just remove the manual one [02:59] ok i have made the changes and rebooting, ill see if that was all my problems shortly [03:01] qman_ thank you that seems to fix my problem [03:09] New bug: #1070322 in quantum (main) "again creation of quantum db" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070322 === pztty is now known as pztrick === cpg is now known as cpg|away === cpg|away is now known as cpg === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [07:35] Hi! How can I (temporary) disable a software raid device, e.g., /dev/md2 from the system such that it will not re-added after a system restart? [07:36] I've tried mdadm --stop /dev/md2 and removing it from /dev/mdadm/mdadm.conf [07:36] but this didn't work. === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === cpg is now known as cpg|away === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts [14:12] Is there a command in ubuntu to which I can pipe an email and an IP address and it would send an abuse report to the abuse email for the given IP ? [14:14] I got hits attacks from 200 different IPs in a 24 hour period, I could never work on this list by hand. [14:20] bananapie, only 200? [14:20] that's if I count each IP only once. [14:25] I'm looking for a scheduling service for my employee similar to ms exchange [14:25] we use google mail [14:32] hello all: can someone tells me where is the logs of start-stop-deamon ? [14:43] queency, what is it you are looking for ? [14:43] some daemons send information into /var/log/syslog when starting or stopping, but not all do. [14:44] My main task is fly away when starting with start-stop-deamon and i don't know why ! [14:45] what do you mean fly away ? [14:46] die [14:48] btw how can i replay like you did with the starting of "queency," ? === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === mcclurmc is now known as mcclurmc_away === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === mcclurmc_away is now known as mcclurmc === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off [17:09] anyone here used Transcenders? [17:21] does it make any sense to have "R/W multiple sector transfer" enabled for sata disks? i see it's set to 0 for all my hdds... [17:30] that is extreemly odd [17:31] generally you want it to be atleast 8 === peterrus- is now known as peterrus [18:07] i have a problem using --location with virt-install, the files are downloaded to /var/lib/libvirt/boot/ but disappear immediately after they are downloaded and seabios in the VM hangs on booting from ROM === cpg|away is now known as cpg === cpg is now known as cpg|away === cpg|away is now known as cpg [21:42] anyone running an ubuntu webserver that can share some anecdotal evidence of how often they have to patch their server? [21:46] you patch your servers when ubuntu provides package updates [21:46] it's that simple [21:47] iirc there is a setting to have your sever automatically deploy security related patches [21:49] yes, but that's not wise [21:49] as you don't want to blindly patch unless you have a test system first [21:50] that's fair [21:56] NomadJim: I use apticron to get emailed notifications of pending updates. [21:57] ikonia: i'm looking for number of times/year or some other kind of statistic [21:58] NomadJim: it changes from release to release and version to version, you can't guess how many bugs or security alerts will be found [21:58] because it's going to be different based on packages, i'd like to focus on people with web servers [21:58] NomadJim: it will differ for different people depending on what packages they are using [21:59] yup [22:03] maybe i'll compile something if I can't find it on google [22:14] NomadJim, I make a point on my box to check weekly. Having said that though, I will say this: my box is for personal use and therfore if it breaks/gets owned its not that big of a deal. [22:14] ie: I'm not saying that weekly updates are the best or that it's how you should do it [22:15] I still like apticron as a way to get notification of new package updates. [22:15] yeah i think automatic notification like greppy said would be best when i'm actively administering a production server [22:15] that way you don't have to remember to login and check, if there is an update, you get an email. [22:16] i have a whole bunch of personal use servers [22:16] but i usually outsource it to a managed provider if it gets important [22:17] so I am not very good at best practices [22:25] greppy: might be kind of cool if someone combined apticron + uptime monitoring [22:26] as a service for lazy people [22:26] or you could just not be lazy [22:26] and run the server properly [22:27] ikonia: i'm talking about a business idea as opposed to personal administration [22:27] doesn't seem a good idea to me personally [22:27] i bet someone is already doing it though [22:27] what's the downside of having apticron in addition to the normal uptime monitoring most services provide [22:28] that's not what it was meant to do [22:28] so you're just adding a pointless function to it [22:28] there are tools for monitoring - this isn't one of them, so adding one random monitoring measure to it doesn't seem good [22:29] I'm talking about uptime monitoring services like https://www.pingdom.com/ [22:29] yeah, I'm saying I think it's a bad idea [22:29] I think it would be valuable if they added apticron notifications as well to their offering [22:29] that's not what the tool was meant for [22:29] notifying of updates isn't what apticron is for? [22:29] no, monitoring [22:30] there are already monitoring plugins for most proper monitoring solutions [22:30] sorry, I just think it's a bad/pointless idea [22:30] apticron doesn't do the monitoring it's an addition [22:30] what ? [22:30] i'm not quite sure what you're arguing [22:31] that uptime monitoring included as part of aptcron is a bad idea [22:31] which is what you stated [22:31] i'm saying uptime monitors like https://www.pingdom.com/ [22:31] could add apticron [22:31] why ? [22:32] NomadJim: xymon can monitor apt status, including apticron. [22:32] there are already solutions/plugins for proper monitoring solutions [22:32] tools like pingdom are not monitoring solutions [22:32] greppy: that's cool. currently trying to learn zabbix, don't know if that's equivalent ot xymon [22:33] NomadJim: xymon used to be hobbit which used to be big brother. I find that I prefer it to most other monitoring solutions. [22:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_network_monitoring_systems [22:36] looks like they are pretty similar [22:36] at least in terms of features === acidflash_ is now known as acidflash [23:00] fail2ban === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk