| dogmatic69 | anyone know how I can setup my server to allow 'sudo service php5-fpm restart' without the sudo? | 08:29 |
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| dogmatic69 | Would like to do it with auto deploys etc. | 08:29 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: deploy packages, the init scripts run as root and can do this :) | 08:59 |
| MartijnVdS | reprepro + puppet FTW | 09:00 |
| dogmatic69 | MartijnVdS: deploy packeges? | 09:39 |
| dogmatic69 | is that an app? | 09:39 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:34 |
| dwatkins | hiya brobostigon et al | 10:49 |
| brobostigon | hi dwatkins | 10:50 |
| * dwatkins is currently considering buying a disk drive to use as a cold spare for his main machine | 10:51 | |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: no, I mean, package up the software into a deb and deploy that | 13:06 |
| directhex | dogmatic69, do you *mean* "without sudo", or "without password"? | 13:10 |
| directhex | both have security implementations. "without sudo" is worse IMHO | 13:10 |
| popey | afternoon all | 13:27 |
| czajkowski | ello | 13:27 |
| AlanBell | hi | 13:34 |
| bigcalm | Hi kids :) | 14:15 |
| mrmist- | I SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE. | 15:45 |
| mrmist- | I SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE. | 15:45 |
| mrmist- | fag:) | 15:46 |
| mrmist- | I SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE. | 15:46 |
| mrmist- | I SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE. | 15:46 |
| mrmist- | I SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE. | 15:46 |
| penguin42 | oh it's him again | 15:48 |
| mrmist- | him? | 15:49 |
| mrmist- | SATAN? | 15:49 |
| mrmist- | I SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE. | 15:50 |
| mrmist- | I SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE. | 15:50 |
| mrmist- | I SMELL BLOATWARE IN HERE. | 15:50 |
| mrmist- | ubuntu stinks. No wonder only nerds with greasy hair use it. | 15:52 |
| czajkowski | mrmist-: please stop | 15:54 |
| mrmist- | czajkowski | 15:55 |
| mrmist- | why are you being so offended? | 15:55 |
| mrmist- | Ubuntu is shite, admit it. Ask anyone, they will tell you the same thing, it is bloated and it is not good for any user with average PC. | 15:56 |
| mrmist- | fags. | 15:56 |
| * dwatkins yawns | 15:56 | |
| dwatkins | Is it christmas already? | 15:56 |
| penguin42 | no | 16:00 |
| dwatkins | just wondering, as some 10 year-old appears to have received a new computer (see childish spam above) | 16:03 |
| penguin42 | ah | 16:03 |
| penguin42 | sigh - my dads machine kernel panics on Quantal if we plug it through a KVM | 16:19 |
| penguin42 | he really should take a job as a tester | 16:19 |
| SuperEngineer | pondering re BBC's next Newsnight broadcast... claim Wimdoze is a good OS!!?? :D | 16:30 |
| zleap | lol | 16:35 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: I'm still waiting for the conspiracy nuts story of the FBI causing Sandy | 16:43 |
| * AlanBell is in trouble | 16:44 | |
| penguin42 | ? | 16:45 |
| AlanBell | impractical geeky bagel slicing | 16:45 |
| AlanBell | if they are going to puchase food that is a torus, then it is going to get cut in a geometrically interesting way | 16:45 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: But if you cut it into a mobius strip which side do you put the butter on? | 16:46 |
| AlanBell | if you do a double twist you get two interlocking rings | 16:46 |
| AlanBell | which is cool and all | 16:47 |
| AlanBell | "can I have mine toasted?" becomes a bit of an issue though | 16:47 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 16:47 |
| SuperEngineer | AlanBell: I think my twittwr reply might saqy what you suspect all along ;) | 16:48 |
| ali1234 | re: sandy, i already read a web comment somewhere saying Obama did it using HAARP | 16:48 |
| SuperEngineer | *say | 16:48 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: HAARP? | 16:48 |
| AlanBell | SuperEngineer: yeah, whole family thinks I am odd | 16:49 |
| ali1234 | yes, it's what the tinfoil hat brigade think is the US government earthquake and hurricane control machine | 16:49 |
| ali1234 | really it's just a super long wave radio experiment | 16:49 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: but, surely that *was* caused by their own wind machine | 16:49 |
| * SuperEngineer starts rumour on behalf of... | 16:49 | |
| SuperEngineer | AlanBell: ;) | 16:50 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: HAARP... see MUSE | 16:53 |
| popey | AlanBell, Photos of bagel cutting pls | 16:54 |
| popey | I want to do same | 16:54 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Hmm nice picture of it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program | 16:54 |
| AlanBell | warning, may cause arguments | 16:54 |
| AlanBell | http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/11/08/164682556/mathematically-challenging-bagels | 16:55 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: yeh... I know | 16:55 |
| ali1234 | AlanBell: that picture looks familiar to meL | 16:55 |
| ali1234 | http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/166813/motion-on-a-parametric-surface | 16:56 |
| AlanBell | ali1234: oh yes your racing game :) | 16:56 |
| AlanBell | also, if you stick a skewer down a baguette and cut around it you can make one big helix | 16:57 |
| AlanBell | and also get shouted at | 16:57 |
| * SuperEngineer listens to "Random Rhymes and Rambles" | 16:57 | |
| SuperEngineer | [& it is intresting to hear what was said when the stream kept dropping ;) ] | 17:02 |
| ali1234 | if you slice the bagel with a half twist you get a mobius | 17:03 |
| ali1234 | well, if you go around twice with half twist each time | 17:03 |
| AlanBell | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Vuh16r8o8 only once, but with a half twist, but you can't get the thing apart like that | 17:05 |
| * SuperEngineer does a vitual hum of "let's twist again" to ali1234 | 17:05 | |
| ali1234 | AlanBell: yes, that's assuming that only the crust represents "surface" | 17:06 |
| ali1234 | if instead of cutting it you squashed it down to zero thickness along the cut, you would get a mobius | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | ah right, yes, you have to go round twice if you only put the knife halfway through as you cut it :) | 17:07 |
| ali1234 | hmm, not what i meant | 17:07 |
| ali1234 | you only go around once like the video | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | yeah, but the knife is going all the way through, so cutting the surface at two points as it goes | 17:08 |
| ali1234 | ah yeah | 17:08 |
| ali1234 | i see what you mean | 17:08 |
| ali1234 | yes, if you went in half way you'd go around twice with a single cut and meet back at the start | 17:09 |
| ali1234 | ie like drawing a line all the way around a mobius strip - you go around twice and meet at the start | 17:09 |
| * SuperEngineer nominates #ununtu-uk fotr the Freat British Bake-Off | 17:13 | |
| SuperEngineer | *Great | 17:13 |
| DJones | SuperEngineer: I wasn't sure whether you meant Great or Freak with that word mangling :) | 17:16 |
| SuperEngineer | DJones: probably... both! | 17:17 |
| * penguin42 wonders if anyone has trained a robot/laser cutter to do that to a bagel | 17:20 | |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: I suggest a ctter [Red dwarf] might have that skill as standard | 17:23 |
| SuperEngineer | Scutter | 17:23 |
| penguin42 | Skutters according to wikipedia | 17:24 |
| * SuperEngineer curses these speed keyboarding lessons - they don't work! | 17:25 | |
| SuperEngineer | [time to go back to looking at screen when pumping keys!] | 17:26 |
| SuperEngineer | wibble... | 17:27 |
| SuperEngineer | [podcast reference there] | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Perhaps you need a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Keyboard | 17:28 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: ;) | 17:29 |
| hcfd | Nein Das Keyboard! | 17:56 |
| hcfd | HHKB Pro ftw :) | 17:56 |
| * penguin42 prefers a Model M | 17:56 | |
| * hcfd looks at his M gathering dust | 17:57 | |
| penguin42 | hcfd: If you don't want it you should be able to get 30 or more for it | 17:58 |
| hcfd | Definitely. Still, the time and effort required to list on eBay, package it up, post it.. I dunno, I never get around to it! | 18:00 |
| hcfd | HHKB wins on Ctrl key placement, feel, size, overall layout. Most of all, the portability means I can move from machine to machine and always have a HHKB to type on :) | 18:01 |
| hcfd | Also, an M doesn't have a Windows/Mac/Super key. | 18:02 |
| penguin42 | indeed it doesn't have a w/m/s key - but I don't use them | 18:30 |
| penguin42 | has anyone ever tried getting PCs to switch on automatically using their inbuilt clock; I want something to take a pic every 30 mins | 18:36 |
| Darael | Don't know how doable that is (it may be! I just don't know), but alternative technique: use a second machine and wake-on-LAN? | 18:40 |
| YaManicKill | my old computer's BIOS could wake itself up, but it was limited to only 1 time. | 18:42 |
| penguin42 | Darael: I want to put a laptop to do this unconnected to anything | 18:43 |
| penguin42 | YaManicKill: Well I was assuming that when it woke up I could set another timeout | 18:43 |
| YaManicKill | hmmm yeah, but this is using the BIOS...so not configurable from the OS is it? | 18:43 |
| penguin42 | hmm - looks like the nvram-wakeup package should be able to do it | 18:44 |
| Darael | Excellent. | 18:45 |
| * penguin42 suspects there is a lot of system dependent magic | 18:45 | |
| Darael | YaManicKill: BIOS things are occasionally reachable from the OS, but it usually requires some Windows-only utility. I've seen it particularly on Foxconn+Nvidia desktop mobos. | 18:46 |
| YaManicKill | interesting, good one to add to the list of "Thing that will be eventually useful but I don't know what for yet" | 18:46 |
| penguin42 | Darael: Don't forget this stuff is a decades old feature | 18:46 |
| directhex | penguin42, it's called "wake on RTC" and i know MythTV integrates it into its scheduler | 18:47 |
| penguin42 | directhex: Interesting - I really want it here for some camera monitoring (of a boiler!) | 18:48 |
| Darael | penguin42: Wake-on-internal-clock is, yes. The utility seemed to have /all/ the BIOS settings in it, though. Some things weren't alterable online (like bus clock speeds), presumably for safety reasons, but a remarkable amount was. | 18:48 |
| penguin42 | Darael: Nice | 18:49 |
| penguin42 | Darael: Does seem to depend on being able to find the settings for the particular motherboard/bios | 19:32 |
| penguin42 | ooh - kernel facility, no need to use nvram-wake | 19:41 |
| Darael | Ooh, /excellent/. | 19:41 |
| penguin42 | sets an alarm and waits | 19:43 |
| penguin42 | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ACPI_Wakeup#Using_.2Fsys.2Fclass.2Frtc.2Frtc0.2Fwakealarm | 19:43 |
| penguin42 | place your bets now, it should come back in 2 mins | 19:45 |
| penguin42 | blimey - it has done | 19:47 |
| Darael | Very good. Very good indeed. | 19:48 |
| Darael | I shall remember that one. I'm sure it'll come in useful at some point. | 19:48 |
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