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scottyg_psusi permission denied00:00
psusiscottyg_, what was the exact command?00:00
scottyg_please write a statement for me to cut and paste!!!!!!00:00
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scottyg_sudo mount -t cifs -o username=SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\scottyg,password=pex571 //192.168.6.3/e$ /media/shares00:00
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scottyg_can you believe how impossible it is to access a bloody drive from this STINKING ods?00:01
escottscottyg_, thats probably introducing another escaping issue. you need to escape the \ with either \\ or quoting the username/password string00:01
ikoniascottyg_: drop the attitude00:01
ikoniait's getting tedious00:01
scottyg_you are WAY over my head00:02
psusiscottyg_, you left out the quotes around the username.... smbclient -U SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\\scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$00:02
BobJonkmanscottyg_: You probably need to escape the backslash, eg SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\\scottyg00:02
scottyg_again....way way way over my head00:02
BobJonkmanescott: :)00:02
scottyg_i beg you to write the command so that i can paste it in terminal00:02
escottscottyg_, i you type "echo \s" in the shell it prints "s" not "\s" you need to have \\s or you need to have quotes 'username=blablah\blah,password=blah'00:02
scottyg_escott.  that is difficult for me to get00:03
scottyg_  what would the correct command look like?00:03
psusismbclient -U SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\\scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$00:03
scottyg_scottyg@scottyg-laptop:~$ smbclient -U SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\\scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$00:04
scottyg_Enter SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\scottyg's password:00:04
scottyg_session request to 192.168.6.3 failed (Called name not present)00:04
scottyg_Domain=[SCOTTYG-W7-DESK] OS=[Windows 7 Ultimate 7601 Service Pack 1] Server=[Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1]00:04
scottyg_tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED00:04
FloodBot1scottyg_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:04
psusiscottyg_, well, don't know what to tell you... windows doesn't like your username or password00:04
psusicheck caps lock00:04
scottyg_no but at least ubuntu can see the other machine...which is miraculous!00:04
ikoniahttp://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2004-April/085175.html00:04
ikoniaread that00:04
thanogaisuper os i love it00:05
trismjohn: you aren't on oneiric (11.10) are you?00:05
scottyg_caps lock is off and my friend just connected with the same credentials from her pc in win vista...flawlessly00:05
Chaterzthanogai, what th hell is super os ?00:05
thanogaiubuntu00:06
escottscottyg_, please read the link ikonia sent you above00:06
psusismbclient -L SCOTTYG-W7-DESK -U scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$00:06
scottyg_i read it twice:)00:06
psusithat *shouldn't* be required since this isn't win9500:07
scottyg_will that help me map a shared win7 drive from ubuntu?00:07
ikoniapsusi: if you check a little deeper, you'll find it still appears to be valid in vista, so I'd assume it's a good possability it's still valid in win 700:07
ikoniascottyg_: if you'd read it twice, you'd know the answer00:07
ghostconnhow would i extract the files out of a .exe windows driver00:08
ikoniaghostconn: you don't,00:08
scottyg_so then you are telling me it IS impossible to map a win7 shared resource from ubuntu?00:08
ikoniayes00:08
djangrononedd help plzz00:09
mjc_suop00:09
mjc_*sup djangrono00:10
scottyg_Domain=[SCOTTYG-W7-DESK] OS=[Windows 7 Ultimate 7601 Service Pack 1] Server=[Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1]00:10
scottyg_Sharename       Type      Comment00:10
scottyg_---------       ----      -------00:10
scottyg_ADMIN$          Disk      Remote Admin00:10
scottyg_C$              Disk      Default share00:10
FloodBot1scottyg_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:10
djangronoi just bought a new laptop00:10
djangronoand my wireless not detected00:10
djangronoasus x43u00:10
BobJonkmanscottyg_ et al: The authentication mechanism for Windows file shares has changed several times since Win95, so that you can only map a drive from a more recent version of Win to an older version.  eg. mapping from Win7 to a WinXP share is OK, but can't map a drive from WinXP to a Win7 share00:10
djangronoT.T00:10
mjc_2 secs00:11
ikoniaBobJonkman: what's nonsense, I have a map from an XP desktop to a Windows 7 desktop now00:11
nicekiwihey, ive got a SATA DVD drive and im trying to play a DVD with VLC but it just wont work?00:11
scottyg_hi bob...maybe you dont understand....i am using UBUNTU to try and map to a win7 shared drive:)00:11
scottyg_session request to 192.168.6.3 failed (Called name not present)00:12
mjc_djangrono what version of ubuntu and 32 or 64 ?00:12
scottyg_that was after i followed the instuctions in ikonias post00:12
scottyg_ubuntu 12   64 bit and windows 7 64 bit00:13
scottyg_has anyone here ever mapped a win 7 drive from ubuntu?00:13
ikoniascottyg_: yes, as I told you earlier00:13
drkokandywhat do you mean mapped scottyg_ ? I frequently use samba to access files on local Win machines from Ubuntu, and I've shared from Ubuntu machines back00:14
BobJonkmanikonia: It may be possible to map from a WinXP computer to a Win7 share if you have admin rights on one of the computers (can't remember which one needs admin rights, or if both do).  And I don't have enough computers running Windows to be able to test...00:15
ikonia//alice.internal/c$  224G   93G  131G  42% /tmp/test00:16
ikoniajust mapped a windows 7 drive now00:16
BobJonkmanikonia: Do you authenticate to the Win7 computer with admin credentials?00:16
ChrisTXBobJonkman: just wrong00:16
ikoniaBobJonkman: no00:16
ChrisTXyou don't need admin credentials00:16
djangronosomeone plzz help00:16
ChrisTXwhat you think is password protected sharing00:17
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ChrisTXif you leave that on, on the W7 machine it will obviously require a password00:17
blackshirtdjangrono,maybe you want describe your problem?00:17
ghostconncan anyone help me solve this ? Bus 002 Device 006: ID 1385:5f01 Netgear, Inc WPN111 (no firmware)00:17
BobJonkmanChrisTX, ikonia: Interesting...  That's not been my experience00:17
mjc_djangrono: I asked you a minute ago what version of ubuntu are you running?00:18
ikoniaghostconn: the device has no firmware on your system00:18
ikoniaghostconn: the firmware will get loaded when you load the ubuntu module for it00:18
ghostconnikonia : so should I just give up hope lol00:18
djangronoi just bought a new laptop @blackshirt00:18
djangronoand the wireless not detected00:19
mjc_yes00:19
mjc_we get that00:19
blackshirtdjangrono, what wifi card you have ?00:19
mjc_djangrono: but ill say it again, what version of ubuntu are you running ?00:20
djangrono@blackshirt: DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=maverick DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.10" Linux icha-ayu 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 5 19:35:26 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux icha@icha-ayu:~$ lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1000:20
kostkondjangrono, 10.10?00:21
ikoniadjangrono: why have you put ubuntu 10.10 on a new laptop ?00:21
k1l_djangrono: 10.10 is out of support. install  a release with is supported00:21
djangrono@ikonia: because i love the old ubuntu00:21
anastasyaikonia, lol00:21
k1l_djangrono: then use 10.04, its a LTS00:21
escottnicekiwi, did you install dvdcss?00:21
DarKModedjangrono try 12.04 th new hardware is supported00:22
johntrism: i am on 12.04 (LXDE)00:22
mjc_djangrono: for that laptop all the drivers are fully supported on 12.04 (LTS) for sure.  Can run any DTE ontop of it if you want.00:22
blackshirtdjangrono, i think that was for eth interfaces00:22
scottyg_dr kokandy.  i bet you cannot get my ubuntu machine to even CONNECT to my shared win 7 drive.00:22
djangronojust my wireless thing00:22
scottyg_ it is IMPOSSIBLE00:22
ikoniascottyg_: no it's not00:22
brunostdoes anybody know of any good guides I can follow to make ubuntu server boot from a pendrive to ram?00:22
Erealzis rsync capable of monitoring a folder and any changes and pust those new files over to set destination?00:22
ikoniascottyg_: I've just done it and showed you00:23
djangrono@blackshirt: how to know the wireless card?00:23
jribErealz: not by itself afaik.  But you could use inotify for that00:23
scottyg_you have?!?!! please send me the scripts or the code!!!00:23
escottErealz, it doesn't "monitor" but yes00:23
scottyg_all i get are errors when i try!!!00:23
kostkondjangrono, you won't get any support for an version of ubuntu that is eol.00:23
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scottyg_ikonia, i eagerly await your commands that will let me access a shared win 7 drive from ubuntu!!!00:24
djangrono@kostkon: that's why i go to the forum :D00:24
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kostkondjangrono, try xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04 or 12.10,00:24
blackshirtdjangrono, commonlya new laptop was built in with two network devices, one for lan card ethernet and one for wireleess devices00:24
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dougbbxubuntu++ :)00:25
Erealzid like this to always run  when system start im guessing this can be acoblished with cronjob what the correct syntax for accomplishing sed feet?00:25
scottyg_when the networking guy from the job gave up, i thought it was impossible!00:25
dougbbany suggestions for this problem?  vi bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('00:25
dougbbbash: eval: line -978: syntax error near unexpected token `('00:25
dougbbbash: eval: line -978: `compgen -f -X !!(*.@(o|so|so.!(conf|*/*)|a|[rs]pm|gif|jp?(e)g|mp3|mp?(e)g|avi|asf|ogg|class)|*.@(O|SO|SO.!(CONF|*/*)|A|[RS]PM|GIF|JP?(E)G|MP3|MP?(E)G|AVI|ASF|OGG|CLASS)) -- $(quote_readline $cur)'00:25
djangronook blackshirt, how do i know my wireless cars\d?00:25
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scottyg_can anyone please give me the exact syntax to connect a ubuntu machine to a shared win 7 drive?00:25
blackshirterealz, i don't know what you need exactlyy,but i think you can read about related to inotify00:25
saustinFor some reason, my Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't seem to recognize boot-repair as a package for installation, and my grub doesn't show my windows partition even though I just installed/booted into it before repairing the grub from a liveCD.  Anyone have thoughts on how I can get a graphical install for grub?00:26
ikoniascottyg_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1349430/00:26
ikoniascottyg_: there is proof it's easy00:26
scottyg_everyone says they can do it, but no one sends the statements00:26
ikoniascottyg_: I just did00:26
kostkondjangrono, i'm pretty sure that if oyu install 12.04 or 12.10, your wireless card will work right away.00:26
Erealzid like to my download folder to synce over any new files to my dropbox00:26
ikoniakostkon: how are you sure of that00:26
blackshirtdjangrono, lspci | grep Network00:26
ikoniakostkon: what wireless card does he have ?00:26
scottyg_well ikonia, when i pasted that, i got a lot of errors!!! im afraid you failed me:(00:27
ikoniascottyg_: because that's MY command00:27
ikoniascottyg_: you fail00:27
ikonianot me00:27
ikoniamine works00:27
blackshirtdjangrono, lspci | grep ethernet00:27
djangronoblackshirt: 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 0032 (rev 01)00:27
escottErealz, you have two options. you can run the job every 10minutes or so, or you can rely on inotify-watch or one of the other inotify commands to trigger the rsync call00:27
blackshirtOr something like them00:27
scottyg_would you like to try another statement?00:27
kostkonikonia, eh, ok, let's find out00:27
ikoniascottyg_: why would I try another statement, that's what's needed for MY network00:28
kostkonoh it's an atheros00:28
ikoniait works00:28
blackshirtdjangrono, greats, you have atheros based wifi chipset00:28
scottyg_i would be delighted to trry anything00:28
ikoniawhy would I change it00:28
blackshirt!atheros00:28
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:28
LostAsylumtabfail00:28
blackshirt!atheros | djangrono00:28
ubottudjangrono: please see above00:28
djangronoyup atheros blackshirt00:28
scottyg_sudo mount -t cifs -o username=scottyg,password=pex571 //192.168.6.3/e$ /media/shares00:28
scottyg_does not work for me:(00:28
ikoniascottyg_: stop pasting that00:28
blackshirt!info atheros00:28
ubottuPackage atheros does not exist in quantal00:28
ikoniascottyg_: we know it doesn't work for you00:28
djangronothx ubottu00:29
scottyg_ohhh i was hoping you understood that i need a statement that DOES work...00:29
ikoniascottyg_: mine does work00:29
Erealzis it called i watch00:29
scottyg_would anyone like to try?00:29
LostAsylumscottyg_: are you dumb?00:29
LostAsylumgoogle that shit00:29
ikoniaas i've just shown you00:29
ikoniascottyg_: I've explained why yours doen't work00:29
ikoniaLostAsylum: unacceptable language.00:29
scottyg_lost.  if i told you i was a drooling moron would you help me?00:30
scottyg_ikonia, but i addressed that issue00:30
ikoniascottyg_: no you didn't, that's why you are still typing the same command, despite the info I gave you00:30
LostAsylumwhat ikonia: dumb?00:30
scottyg_ikonia, can you design a statement that will work?00:30
djangronoso blackshirt? do you have ant advice?00:30
ikoniascottyg_: re-read the email link I gave you00:30
bazhangLostAsylum, just move on00:30
Erealzi  did a apt-cache search and iwatch iseems to me the name of the tool yes or no?00:30
scottyg_i am not a networking professional....i apologize00:30
LostAsylumbazhang: smd?00:31
scottyg_  will youplease write a command that i can try?00:31
ikoniascottyg_: no00:31
ikoniascottyg_: as it's specific to your network00:31
escott!find inotify-watch | Erealz00:31
ubottuErealz: Package/file inotify-watch does not exist in quantal00:31
scottyg_because you KNOW it wont work:)00:31
bazhangLostAsylum, stop with the editorializing00:31
ikoniascottyg_: it does work I've just proved it,00:31
drkokandyI missed the earlier part of this conversation - Would the GUI way help? Open Nautilus, and in the bottom of the left column you may be able to "Browse Network Shares" - find the machine you'd like to connect to and click it00:31
escottErealz, stupid ubottu. package is inotify-tools00:31
LostAsylum? english ?00:31
scottyg_but i typed it in and it failesd00:31
escottErealz, and please include peoples nicks in your messages00:31
ikoniascottyg_: i you think it doesn't work and I'm telling you lies, give up now, bye00:31
dougbbErealz: an easy way to solve that problem is to create a Downloads folder in your dropbox, and then make the folder in your home directory a symlink to it00:31
scottyg_  you have all the info you need about my network!!!!!00:32
scottyg_can anyone tell me how to access a win 7 shared drive from ubuntu?00:32
ikoniascottyg_: I've told you00:32
ikoniascottyg_: I've given you the email list, plus my own working example00:32
LostAsylumscottyg_ ur network fails and your left hand is probably really sore from moving that mouse.00:32
Erealzthis is true00:32
rypervencheWow, it's a broken record in here.00:32
Erealzthat is a good simple yet afective  idea dougbb00:33
scottyg_ikonia, i have tried to explain i am not an ubuntu guru...nor am  i a networking specialist.00:33
Erealzi think ill do that00:33
scottyg_your mom doesnt fail me lost asylum...you chicken raping sodomite:)00:34
dougbbErealz: glad I could help :)00:34
drkokandyor open nautilus, hit ALT, type in connect to server, and insert the location00:34
k3ithk_The support matrix for "Mactel" stops at 11.10, where can I determine the compatability of 12.04 with a macbook 2,1?00:34
djangronoblackshirt orang indonesia toh00:35
jribk3ithk_: should work fine (I have a 4,1 and have no problems)00:35
jribk3ithk_: try a live cd00:35
zackis it possible to put color in an alias in zsh?00:38
escottzack, what would that mean?00:38
zackescott: so say when I type pwd I want it to always turn up green.  is that possible?00:39
zackescott: I'm thinking along the same lines as how one would color their prompt (which I have done)00:39
escottzack, no. if you typed in pwd it would show up as pwd00:39
jribzack: that should be possible, see something similar at https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-syntax-highlighting00:39
escottzack, aliases are interpreted after you press ENTER00:39
k3ithk_jrib: Thanks, will do.00:41
warfarenhmm can i get help with fglrx here? can't get it to work with my ati card on ubuntu 10.04. or would you recommend me somehwere else?00:41
zackescott: I understand.  I want the output of pwd to show up green00:41
jribzack: wait you want to color the /output/?00:42
escottzack, you could try aliasing pwd to something like "echo -e \colorcode; pwd; echo -e \colorcode"00:42
zackescott: that's what i'm trying. i keep getting an error that the color code isn't a proper command. one sec. let me recreate it.00:43
zackjrib: as i in type pwd, hit enter, and /home/zack turns up in green00:43
escottzack, aliases in general are not meant to expand to multiple commands00:43
escottzack, because that breaks things like cp `pwd`/foo /bar00:43
dougbbyou can write a function to accomplish the same thing just as easily00:44
jribzack: oh. syntax highlighting actually just highlights your command as you type it.  So you could highlight "pwd".  If you want to color the output, well... if you can't get the alias to work just write a small shell script and put it in ~/bin/ I guess00:44
warfareni've got a FireGL V3200 and i donwloaded the fglrx 12.6 drivers as i thought the card would be supported in that version of the driver. however when i'm trying to insmod the module it built i get "No such device"00:44
warfarenthat's a legacy version btw00:44
dougbbjrib: no need for a script, a function will work just as well00:45
jribdougbb: sure00:45
maicodwhen opening multiple logins bash keeps track of the commands in multiple .bash_history files it seems because sometimes when logging back in I get a bash history of another login I had used. where is the bash history of these other logins stored ?00:45
zackso I should stop trying to get alias pwd='$fg_no_bold_[green]pwd' to work?00:45
dougbbzack: right :)00:45
zackd'oh00:46
dougbbwhat you're doing is the province of a function00:46
warfarenmaicod: by default, the history of last shell you close gets written to ~/ .bash_history00:46
harakensheriffbot: rollout 134069 "It is a wrong way to fix the problem. See discussions in bug 96614"00:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 115681 in apport (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #96614 apport-retrace: give proper error message when installArchives() fails" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11568100:46
dougbbzack: as someone else pointed out, aliases are designed for single things, not compound ones00:46
dougbbwarfaren: the last shell you log out of will write it's history out to $HISTFILE00:47
harakensorry, ignore the above message. I posted to a wrong channel:)00:47
dougbbit's not a compound process00:47
warfarenyeah.00:47
maicodwarfaren: yeah but the others are kept somewhere else since they turn up sometimes when later logging into a new shell00:47
zackdougbb: I mean.. is a color code a command?  beacuse that's the error I get - it doesn't recognize it as as command. and even if it were shouldn't && handle that?00:48
maicodso where is that stored :)00:48
dougbbmaicod: echo $HISTFILE00:48
ezi0dAnybody here has dual boot of windows 8 and ubuntu?00:48
warfareni don't think so. they're per user so if you were logged into different users you would get all of them saved00:48
dougbbzack: as soon as you get && involved, it's not proper for an alias00:48
dougbbzack: writing functions isn't hard ... stop resisting :)00:49
warfarenbut if you have multiple shells with the same user up at the same time and just kill them one by one only the history of the last one will get written, the rest are lost00:49
zackdougbb: i'm not resisting. i'm learning. i'm learning why it's wrong or won't work.00:49
maicoddougbb: thats .bash_history ofc ;)00:49
dougbbmaicod: ok, so check that for each of your shells, it will tell you where they are being stored00:50
maicodOK00:50
maicodthanks00:50
Anom01yhttp://www.naturalnews.com/037832_superfoods_stockpiling_survival.html00:51
escottwarfaren, that can be fixed with shopt variables00:51
maicodAnom01y:scared for the end of the world?00:51
dougbbzack: fair enough .... the bash man page has a very good explanation of aliases, and when/why they are applicable00:51
warfarenescott: are you talking about my graphics problem?00:51
escottwarfaren, the history being lost issue00:52
warfareni see. doh :(00:52
warfareni'm really hoping to get fglrx working. can't even watch youtube fluidly with the open source driver :(00:52
Jordan_U!ot | Anom01y00:53
ubottuAnom01y: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:53
escottmaicod, if you problem is history being overwritten its easily fixed00:53
dolphinhello everyone!00:58
jribfunnily enough, zack's alias actually works :P00:58
escottjrib, except for being completely unsafe00:59
jribescott: why unsafe?00:59
escottjrib, what happens with: "cp `pwd`/foo /bar"00:59
jribescott: gotcha01:00
MonolithImmortalHEY GUYS, I INSTALLED UBUNTU ON MY COMPUTER, AND FORWHATEVER REASON CAPSLOCK IS STUCK ON01:02
MonolithImmortalWHAT DO I DO?01:02
FloodBot1MonolithImmortal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:02
warfarenMonolithImmortal: if you're really being serious and you're using a laptop. try connecting an external keyboard and press caps lock on that one. i need to do that sometimes when the laptop's built in key doesn't do anything01:04
escottMonolithImmortal, thats odd. only way i've ever seen that is to hit capslock and then remap the capslock key with xmodmap.01:04
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dolphin<MonolithImmortal> Is capslock light on?01:04
zeronewbhello01:05
warfarenwonder if he was trolling. using a web client and being able to set a nickname like that with upper and lower case chars.. just saying...01:05
zeronewbcan someone help me pleas? i installed zentyal on ubuntu server and after the installation it came up with ldap configuration...what is ti and how should i configure it?01:06
escott!ldap | zeronewb01:06
ubottuzeronewb: LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer01:06
zeronewb!ldap01:06
ubottuLDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer01:06
escottzeronewb, ldap can be used for various purposes. from corporate email address books, to synchronizing usernames and passwords across multiple computers. not sure what zentyal is or how it uses ldap01:07
zeronewbit's web interface to configure the server01:08
zeronewbit just came up with a configuration screen right after the installation01:09
escottzeronewb, if you only have one server you aren't using ldap01:09
zeronewbi have no clue on how to configure it tho01:09
VlanXi am desperately trying to fix 100 full duplex on my NICs with ethtool, but after a network reset they all come back with autonegotiatio. Could somebody help?01:09
dougbbVlanX: why aren't you using auto on both sides?01:09
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VlanXdougbb: because it's a server01:10
VlanXand i need to have fixed 100 fdx01:10
dougbbwhat does that have to do with anything?01:10
nicekiwiescott, no. VLC dosnt need that does it?01:10
dougbbautoneg has been the recommendation for networking equipment for over 15 years01:10
escottnicekiwi, what?01:11
zeronewbit asks me for ldap server address...should i configure it with the ip of my server?01:11
dolphin<VlanX> Why is autonegotiation is bad? Are you using some ancient switch or something?01:11
VlanXdougbb: that might also be, but in my case i keep having half duplex with autoneg01:11
VlanXdolphin: no it's a Cisco ME-340001:11
escottzeronewb, are you running ldap?01:11
zeronewbidk i just installed zentyal01:12
zeronewbi don't think so01:12
dougbbVlanX: power off the server (or disconnect the network cable), reset the switch, configure the server for autoneg, and then reconnect/power on01:12
escottzeronewb, if you aren't running ldap i would skip that question01:12
zeronewbi can't there is just ok and go back....and the step before was chosing a password for root01:12
dolphin<VlanX> Did you try another cable/patchcord  (if it's possible)?01:12
escottnicekiwi, i have no idea what you are talking about.... are you jumping into a new question or is this from earlier01:12
gaetanohello! who knows how to test the result of code in geany?01:13
dougbbVlanX: you get yourself into all kinds of problems if you start mucking about with it manually ... dolphin's idea is a good thing to look at as well01:13
escottzeronewb, im going to suggest that you shouldnt be installing whatever you are installing. ubuntu has no root password. and a well secured system probably should not have a root password01:13
zeronewbi think it's actually the setup for ldap...maybe the interface needs it01:13
zeronewbroot password foe ldap01:14
zeronewbbefore that i had to configure mysql01:14
cpareHello room - Over the last week a patch broke my Gnome3 shell - are others impacted by this?01:14
VlanXdougbb, dolphin, even if i was that crazy to be willing to force 100/fdx, is there a file i can store that string? I can always restore the previous values...01:14
zeronewbi think it's the web interface that needs it01:14
escottVlanX, /etc/network/interfaces?01:15
VlanXescott: do you happen to know what is the syntax to use?01:15
dolphin<VlanX> I've had a problem like that - realtek netcard - zyxel wifi router gave halfduplex and older stupid switch connected at full-duplex. I've messed with them for some time, then used a factory-made patchcord and voila - full duplex with any hardware. I think it has something to do with modern trend of "green power"01:15
escottVlanX, i've never messed with stuff at that low a level01:16
dougbbzeronewb: you realize that the mysql root password is something totally different than the system root password, right?01:16
zeronewbyes01:16
dolphin<VlanX> Best idea i have right now is to have ethtool command set up in cron01:16
halfduplexdolphin: you called?01:16
VlanXdolphin: i do have a realtek card01:16
halfduplexkidding01:16
VlanXgod realtek sucks so bad01:17
dolphin<VlanX> me too, good old rtl8139c01:17
dolphin<halfduplex> :)01:17
gaetanoanyone knows ho to get a browser test on geany?01:19
frigginglorioushey can anyone help me with an FTP server error?01:20
friggingloriousi have been searching forums for the past 5 hours01:20
cpare<frigginglorious> - whats the error?01:20
escottfrigginglorious, real ftp server of sftp?01:20
friggingloriousand cant figure out why i cant connect to my server anymore01:21
frigginglorioussftp works fine01:21
friggingloriousECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server01:21
cparefrigginglorious - so you still have a listener running01:21
escottfrigginglorious, ie you are using proftpd or the like...01:21
dougbbfrigginglorious: look in the auth.log on the server side01:21
friggingloriouspure-ftpd01:21
friggingloriousbut i have tried installing 3 different servers01:22
friggingloriousvsftpd, proftpd01:22
dougbbcould be a firewall issue as well01:22
escottfrigginglorious, is there a reason you are using ftp instead of sftp01:22
cpare<frigginglorious> - Firewall Issue01:22
OpenSorcefrigginglorious, you trying to connect over a lan or the web?01:22
frigginglorioushow would i fix a firewall issue in lubuntu?01:22
cparefrigginglorious - how about an iptables /f01:23
blackshirtfrigginglorious, exactly,what the error is?01:23
cparefrigginglorious - the /f will purge them01:23
frigginglorioushonestly ive tried screwing with iptables, but dont know what im doing01:23
cparefrigginglorious - flush01:23
OpenSorcefrigginglorious, you positive your ports are open on the target machine?01:24
friggingloriousthe error is from when i try to connect with my client. I was never able to get pure-ftpd to log correctly01:24
escottfrigginglorious, another thing you have to deal with in ftp is the control port vs the data port issue01:24
friggingloriousim SSH'd into the machine right now, so at least some ports have to be open01:24
escottfrigginglorious, it can really confuse NATs01:24
escottfrigginglorious, sftp would be a lot easier to setup and more secure01:24
friggingloriousyeah, SFTP does work01:25
OpenSorcefrigginglorious, the SSH port is different than the FTP port. I'd recommend sftp and check the router settings01:25
dougbbfrigginglorious: stick with sftp if it works ... encryption is your friend :)01:25
friggingloriousbut FTP is more universal, my wordpress will allow me to do alot more with FTP01:25
ikoniafrigginglorious: wordpress supports sftp just as much as ftp01:26
escottfrigginglorious, you are missing my point. ftp is insecure. the only reason you should even think of doing ftp is if you want anonymous access. you can offer something much the same with ssh in many situations01:26
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escottfrigginglorious, you haven't stated your use case, but we can likely accomplish your goals with openssh and the sftp module. it will be easier and more secure. if you just tell us what it is you want to do01:27
suhaibDoes anyone knows where can I find the XChat freenode server ?01:27
suhaiblnow*01:28
suhaibknow**01:28
cparefrigginglorious - escott is correct01:28
friggingloriouswell i would like to be able to install wordpress themes from the web GUI01:28
cparefrigginglorious - ftp sends user/pass in clear text, any packet capture tool will show it01:28
escottfrigginglorious, so why would you need an ftp-server to do that?01:28
cparefrigginglorious - in fact you may want to just transfer files via SSH with something like winSCP01:29
friggingloriousisnt SSH and SFTP kind of the same thing?01:30
friggingloriousthey both use port 22, right?01:30
escottfrigginglorious, SFTP uses the SSH protocol, but talks FTP. so the commands are ftp commands instead of a full shell01:30
cpareHello room - 2-3 weeks ago a patch broke my Gnome3 shell - have other users been reporting this?01:31
escottfrigginglorious, in any case if you are wanting to upload a theme to wordpress.com you don't need a server. you need a client01:31
crackerjackzi tried upgrading from what ever version to 11.10 but it only did a partial upgrade and now everything is all crazy my sound doesn't work and i keep getting this message about the laptop battery being critally low even though it's not.. it pops up like every 3 seconds and it covers up all of my windows that i want to be in focus01:31
escottcpare, check launchpad.net01:31
cparethx escott01:31
escottfrigginglorious, and your webbrowser can probably do ftp. or you can get fireftp? plugin for firefox01:32
escottcrackerjackz, have you completed the upgrade?01:33
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lloowen1I have ubuntu running on a USB stick. I want to copy it over to another USB. What command could I use that will make sure I get an exact copy with all hidden files and file permissions? Thanks..01:33
friggingloriousi was mostly just using notepadd ++ ftp client because i was just doing simple web dev01:33
escottlloowen1, you would need to copy with "dd" to get a bit for bit copy that would be bootable01:34
crackerjackzwhen i open the update manager it says not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade to run as many udates as possible...this can be caused by a previus upgrade which didn't complete.. problems with some installed software, unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu, normal changes of a pre-release version of ubuntu01:34
crackerjackzescott: it wont let me01:34
escottlloowen1, that can only be done if stick2 is at least as large as stick101:34
escottcrackerjackz, on the terminal can you run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;"01:34
dougbbcrackerjackz: the easiest way to solve that problem is to back up your data, and do a clean install01:34
lloowen1escott: Thanks. I'll check out the 'dd' command01:34
escottcrackerjackz, on the terminal can you run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f upgrade;" (with the f is a bit better)01:35
crackerjackzdougbb: i don't wanna do that because of the truecrypt and all of that i have things configured a certain way on here it'd end up being more time consuiming i think01:35
douztoHi ! My ubuntu freezes at boot, just after the pointer shows up. By switching to another TTy before the pointer appears then switching back to TTy 7 the desktop loads fine. Booting in recovery mode does the trick too. Any clue ? Thanks.01:35
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dougbbcrackerjackz: I don't see how TC would have anything to do with it01:36
crackerjackzdougbb: cause it took me forever to set it up01:36
crackerjackzand i just did it the other day01:36
crackerjackzlike 100 gb of data01:36
dougbbcrackerjackz: I have way more than that on various TC devices, no sympathy from me :)01:37
DarKModedouzto check the log files01:37
dougbbcrackerjackz: are you using TC on devices, or using file/folders01:37
retromingentWhat is the best way to download music from Ubuntu 12.04 to an Android Galaxy S3?  Nothing I've found on-line works.01:37
crackerjackzdougbb: i dont have enough space to back all that up01:37
DarKModedouzto try dmseg01:38
escottretromingent, you have to install something that speaks that weird PIP protocol or whatever it is01:38
dougbbcrackerjackz: if you don't have enough backup capability for all your data, that's a whole different problem that you need to solve :)01:38
retromingentIt's MTP.  I have that.01:38
dougbbretromingent: why not just mount the device, and transfer the files?01:39
retromingentIt mounts, but no music player recognizes it.  And neither does Dolphin.01:39
escottretromingent, $ sudo aptitude install mtpfs; mkdir ~/android/; mount.mtpfs ~/android/; does that work01:39
crackerjackzdougbb: but i don't need to reinstall my OS either...01:40
retromingentWhen it mounts as an MTP FS, Dolphin says, "Could not display" when trying to open the device.01:40
dougbbcrackerjackz: apparently you do :)01:40
escottfor want of a 5 cent circuit the usb gadget was lost... for want of a usb gadget01:40
retromingentLooking for someone who has done this.01:40
bastidrazorfor want of a nail01:41
crackerjackzescott: it worked i think01:41
crackerjackzi'm not getting an error message when i go to the update manager nore01:41
crackerjackznow*01:41
crackerjackzupgrading to 12.04...01:42
retromingentHas anyone successfully downloaded music from Ubuntu 12.04 to Android Galaxy S3 via MTP?01:42
dougbbretromingent: I didn't see an answer to the question of why not just mount the device as a regular disk?01:44
escottdougbb, its not a regular disk. its a ptp device you can fuse mount it01:45
escottdougbb, or mtp rather01:45
douztoDarKMode, dmesg shows last boot's record, right ?01:45
dougbbah01:45
escottdougbb, its obnoxious. a little additional circuitry and they could enable gadget mode in the kernel and export usb mass storage from an ext3 filesystem01:47
dougbbescott: right .... I have an LG android phone that lets me mount both the system disk and the sd card01:47
dougbbescott: do you happen to know if the nexus 7 has the same problem?01:48
escottdougbb, its one of the main reasons im not upgrading to ICS01:48
dougbbI'm thinking of buying one01:48
crackerjackzescott: why don't you want ICS? i've been waiting on them to upgrade to ICS for a year now on the motorola electrify.. i'm still on 2.3.501:49
escottcrackerjackz, this should go in offtopic. but i dont want to give up usb mass storage mode01:50
crackerjackzahhh i see01:50
Linkandzeldahey, does anyone know if I can use dd to make a Mac OS X usb installer from ubuntu?01:51
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Phaba_how do i know when its possible to get devel libs from an apt-get install command rather than having to DL the source and use the config / make files??01:56
Phaba_the apt-get is easier01:56
eamonHow do I get a good looking terminal like this? http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1352597160213.png I saved this file as my .bashrc (the guy who has that shell uses the same file) http://pastebin.com/7CudGSG4 but it looks like this - http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1352598645033.png01:58
k1l_eamon: is this ubuntu related?02:00
lunaphyteeamon: why are you asking here?02:00
jribeamon: right click -> edit profile02:00
drkokandythat's OSX02:00
lunaphytewrong os02:00
metasansanawrong side of the force02:01
Phaba_devel libs guys??02:02
escottPhaba_, there is usually a -dev package that contains headers you can build against02:02
Phaba_well i just installed the openmpi libs but from source i found it really hard, and theres a simple "apt-get install" command that would have done it all for me02:03
Phaba_i have a the same problem with openvas02:03
escottPhaba_, apt-get install openmpi-dev02:03
Phaba_yes openmpi works fine now, cheers02:04
escottPhaba_, you dont need to build openmpi. you need to build against openmpi. so you just need the -dev version of the package to have the headers02:04
VlanXwhen i type  ifconfig eth0 up, is he reading from /etc/network/interfaces ?02:04
Phaba_escott, what do you mean "against"?? headers just reference the source libs?02:07
eamonlunaphyte: Because there are other bash users in this channel. Bash is the shell in the "terminal window", you may not ever have seen it before.02:07
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lunaphyteeamon: excuse me?02:08
ghostconnis there anything more simple but has the same affect as conky02:08
escottPhaba_, the *.so contains entry points and symbols (you can view them by running "nm /path/to/libraryname.so"  but to compile a program that will link against those libraries you need the header files which contain all the function prototypes and declarations specific to the language you are coding in02:08
eamon<lunaphyte> eamon: why are you asking here?02:08
ncfi1013hi...would anyone mind terribly if i troubled you for some information on what might be the most useful file format converter for .flac to .mp3?02:08
ghostconndont convert flac it too good to loose bitrate02:09
lunaphyteeamon: i know what bash is, i know what a terminal window is, and i know if i wanted help with it, i'd ask in #bash, not here.02:09
escottPhaba_, you get all that when you build the thing by hand but you dont have to do that with ubuntu. the split the make install part that installs the library and the make install-headers part that installs the prototypes into different packages02:09
eamonlunaphyte: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_%28Unix_shell%2902:09
lunaphyteeamon: are you even USING ubuntu?02:09
eamonYes.02:09
escotteamon, yeah but the problem is your terminal application in OSX is lame02:09
lunaphyteeamon: not in that screenshot you're not02:09
lunaphyteeamon: i'm not the one asking for help.  stop it.02:10
lunaphyteeamon: maybe you're not familiar with bash?02:11
lunaphyteeamon: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html02:11
OerHeksncfi1013, soundconverter, or terminal :  for f in *;do flac -cd $f |lame -b 128 - $f.mp3;done     ( 128 or 190 or 256)02:12
ghostconnfile:///media/Media%20Server/music/Above%20And%20Beyond%20-%20Trance%20Around%20The%20World%20400/33%20Orjan%20Nilsen%20-%20Viking.mp302:13
ghostconncan anyone recommend a good piano rool software for my alberton live controller?02:15
ghostconnits midi02:15
eamonadobe audition02:17
ikoniaghostconn: you're going to struggle for professional grade music proction tools in linux02:17
ghostconnikonia : do you think flstudio od ableton would run through wine?02:18
zatanikonia, do u still here ?02:21
wyclifikonia: right. if you want pro music studio stuff it's illogical not to go with Mac (and I say that as a devoted Linux user since 1995)02:22
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Phaba_escott, okay when using the "make" it installs the libs and headers into /usr/lib but what im asking is when do i know or how would i find out that i could just use an "apt-get install" rather than pulling the source code in and making it from scratch, using things like flags and finding non default local libs is a bit of a pain for me :P02:22
VlanXi have two NICs; when i enable the second NIC how can i prevent to have messed up routes (the 2nd NIC will become the default route to the internet, but it's a private LAN)02:24
psusiPhaba_, you can use the software center, synaptic, or apt-cache search to search for packages02:25
thanigoimy hard disk have no space. how to get free space on ununtui file system02:25
dougbbthanigoi: well, the obvious answer is to delete some files :)02:26
thanigoithere will be system files02:26
ubuntu__rtin02:27
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dougbbthanigoi: right, so don't delete anything you don't understand02:27
dougbbthanigoi: perhaps if you said a little bit more about what you're trying to accomplish?02:27
psusithe next obvious answer is to get a larger hard drive ;)02:27
k1l_thanigoi: delete old kernels with the package: "linux-image-..."02:28
Kuryuuhttp://askubuntu.com/q/214798/106577 <----- Having some issues with my upgrade would appreciate any feedback, thanks02:28
k1l_thanigoi: and remove the apt-get caches and old files with apt-get autoremove and autoclean02:28
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thanigoidougbb, there will be system files02:28
OerHeksthanigoi, use bleachit to clean you ubuntu filesystem, uninstall programs you never use.02:29
thanigoithaks02:30
thanigoithanks02:30
definityAny one here know about /dev and drivers?02:32
Magiobiwandefinity, it depends02:33
ikoniadefinity: just ask the question02:33
Easton_If I have an OEM license key, can I install Ubuntu over Windows 7 then make a virtual machine of 7 on the same computer with the OEM license key?02:33
definitywhy does psaux only output the same character to the terminal screen when i look at it02:34
Jordan_UEaston_: That's more of a question for ##windows.02:34
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psusidefinity, what?02:35
definitywhen i look at /dev/psaux in the terminal all i see is the same character repeated when i move the mouse. how come the charater is the same one and not diffrent bits of data02:36
psusidefinity, probably because it's binary data so it just comes out as undefined characters02:36
definitybut its just one character not diffrent ones02:37
psusidefinity, it is probably several different ones that all show up as the junk character block02:38
psusithe point is, you aren't supposed to cat /dev/psaux... you won't get anything sensical02:38
definitywhat would be the best way to see the data?02:38
psusiwhat is it that you are trying to see?02:38
definityi want to know how the mouse sends its data to memory02:39
definitywell see the data02:40
psusidefinity, you can use hd to dump it as hex02:41
Wulfehttp://askubuntu.com/q/214798/106577 <----- Having some issues with my upgrade would appreciate any feedback, thanks02:41
definitycool thanks02:42
Scunizifdisk -l reveals 3 separate drives on my system.  1 of the remaining 2 drives could be running my current boot environment.  How do I tell which one?02:46
Random832mount ?02:46
voidHey, can anyone help me with a wireless issue I'm having?02:47
ScuniziRandom832: ok.. I see sda1 is ext4 and sda3 is /home .. I can't really identify where /swap is unless it's labeled something different..02:48
Lord_ZeroIs an SSH server runing by default on a fresh install of 12.10?02:48
ScuniziLord_Zero: not typically.. sudo apt-get install ssh02:49
dougbbhere's a silly question, is there anything in stock ubuntu 12.10 that is feeding the /dev/random entropy pool?02:49
Lord_ZeroScunizi:  thank you my good man02:49
MagiobiwanUnless it's a Server Install02:49
Scunizitrue02:49
MagiobiwanIf sshd wasn't running default02:49
ScuniziLord_Zero: is it a server install?02:49
MagiobiwanYou might have a problem02:49
Lord_ZeroA budy is having issues with sound. Im trying to troubleshoot with my limited knowledge of Ubuntu02:49
ScuniziLord_Zero: and he's in a gui environment?02:50
Lord_ZeroIf I recall isnt there some sound libraries or drivers I need to get that arent out of the box?02:50
Lord_ZeroYes02:50
ScuniziLord_Zero: he might just need to install pavcontrol and then go from there..02:50
Lord_ZeroI see02:51
ScuniziLord_Zero: that will give a different control panel for the sound and you can then choose input and output items separately.02:51
Lord_Zerois that in aptitude?02:51
Lord_Zerooh okay02:51
ScuniziLord_Zero: yes.. also.. if you want to see his screen with out ssh.. use teamviewer.. it's free and runs on everything.02:51
Lord_ZeroOh very good point02:52
Lord_Zeroill try that02:52
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ghostconnhas anyone installed flstudio with ubuntu using wine02:56
ikoniaghostconn: something I'd strongly suggest not doing02:57
shing`Is it possible to create a raid setup with a mirrored boot partition across three drives, and have the remainder of the space be raid 5? (minus swap of course)02:57
shing`has anyone done anything like that?02:57
ikoniashing`: no02:57
ikoniashing`: mirror = 1->102:57
ikoniaor 1->1->102:57
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dougbbshing` you're much better off keeping your system on a simple partition, and RAID'ing your data02:59
dougbbd'oh02:59
ghostconnikonia: can you install windows driver with wine02:59
ikoniaghostconn: not really02:59
ghostconnok02:59
ikoniaghostconn: trying to use a daw or a hardware interface through wine - will fail02:59
ikoniathe abstraction layer takes it away from the real time responses needed02:59
hammersicklehello is anyone running steam native?03:02
hammersickleim unable to download team fortress 203:02
ikoniahammersickle: this isn't the steam support channel03:03
hammersickleoh sorry didnt realise just asking on the slight chance of help was such a big problem03:05
Wulfeheh, steam on linux is in beta anyways so gl geting any real support as of yet unlesss its from the offical group on steam.03:08
XanthippusHi guys03:09
killerhi....i want pcmanfm (for the sake of speed)to control my desktop instead of nautilus .......is there a way i can do it03:09
XanthippusCan someone post an example of shared memory? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StricterDefaults03:10
ikoniakiller: use lubuntu03:10
XanthippusI inserted the string in my fstab but I keeping screwing up the boot...03:10
killerikonla: i like unity but nautilus turns out to b too slow as compared to pcmanfm03:11
ikoniakiller: you can't have both03:11
XanthippusHow bout Thunar?03:11
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dougbbXanthippus: paste the exact line from fstab03:11
ikoniakiller: you can certainly use pcmanfm but have it intergrated into the desktop....not03:11
XanthippusThe line from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StricterDefaults03:11
dougbbXanthippus: no, paste what YOU have03:12
ikoniaXanthippus: which line03:12
dougbbin YOUR fstab03:12
XanthippusThere is no more "my fstab"03:12
XanthippusI formatted the HD because it won't booth03:12
XanthippusI just need an example of that line incorporated in an example fstab so I know how to do it corrctly03:13
ikoniaXanthippus: that example in the wiki is valid03:13
dougbbXanthippus: it's overwhelmingly likely that you made a tiny-but-important error when you pasted the line03:14
dougbbyou might want to skip that in any case, it's highly doubtful that you'll run into problems with shared memory on a single-user system03:15
kristofferwhat command to see my system info like rams and etc03:17
kristoffer?03:17
ikonia"free" ?03:17
Xanthippusdougbb: Yeah, that's probably it. That's why need an example, so I know how it's supposed to look after copy/pasted03:20
alusion_Is there a way I can record .gif's during a movie in ubuntu? someone told me photoshop03:20
ikoniaXanthippus: the example in that wiki is genuine03:20
ikoniaXanthippus: it should look exactly like that example03:20
ghostconnikonia: i got flstudi 10 working with wine everything works wine ... the only minor problem i have is I usually use asio for faster response from my live midi controller any way around that03:20
Xanthippusikonia: I know it's valid, but I already reinstalled twice using that string and it wouldn't booth03:20
dougbbXanthippus: what problem are you trying to solve by changing that setting?03:21
Xanthippusdougbb: Following this guide: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics03:21
ikoniaghostconn: I really wish you'd listen "it won't work due to the abstraction layer taking it away from the real time response needed for a daw"03:21
ikoniaghostconn: what is the point of asking if it works, being told "no" doing it anyway, saying it works, but doesn't03:21
ikoniaghostconn: it doesn't work, the daw requires real time access to the hardware and sync clock, the abstraction layer of wine won't allow that03:22
dougbbXanthippus: ok, if you don't actually know why you might want to change that, I suggest that you don't do it03:22
ikoniaghostconn: that's why all daws do not allow / support being run in things like vm's03:22
ikoniaXanthippus: then you are making a mistake, and as dougbb says, why do you want this03:22
ghostconnill figure it out anythings possible03:22
Xanthippusdougbb: I already did it once, but screwed up something else and now it won't work03:23
ikoniaghostconn: no, it's not03:23
ikoniaghostconn: there are limitations03:23
XanthippusThis isnt the first time ive done this03:23
ikoniaghostconn: daws are a great example because of how fussy they are with the real time clock03:23
dougbbXanthippus: what you might find useful is to test out your configuration in a vm (like virtualbox) first, then transfer your working version to the live server03:24
ikoniaI'm sorry, but if you can't copy a line correctly, there is no need to run it in a vm03:24
ikoniathere is a need to correct attention to detail03:24
ikoniaand the ability to debug a problem without formatting03:25
sunshine123Installed conky on ubuntu 12.10 gnome 3. Followed all instructions but when i start conky this is the output                    /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state: No such file or directory..what do I do?03:25
sunshine123Indeed there is no such file called BAT103:25
dougbbotherwise, I'm going to stick with "If you don't know why you're changing it, don't change it." :)03:25
ghostconni can change the rtl with flstudio also remap the bpm without effecting the track03:25
ghostconn??03:25
ikoniaghostconn: no03:25
sunshine123so how do i prevent conky from going into an infinite loop looking for this file?03:25
dougbbikonia: we all had to learn somewhere, and making mistakes is a great way to learn03:25
ikoniadougbb: I didn't say making a mistake was a problem03:25
JPetersoncan i add sudo required programs to a list that auto runs them through sudo?03:25
dougbband vms are a great way to minimize the impact of those mistakes03:25
dougbbikonia: yeah, I saw what you said03:26
ikoniadougbb: if you can't copy and paste correctly, running a vm is out of scope03:26
JPetersonso i dont need to type the sudo prefix when not a su03:26
ghostconnyes you can?? on any basic piano rool you can remap the bpm and midi functions lol have you ever used this software03:26
XanthippusI don't get it though, it worked beforehand03:26
ikoniaghostconn: it will fail as it still needs access to the clock to keep time internally03:26
XanthippusDoes there need to be a space between separate lines?03:26
dougbbikonia: there is no need to be negative ... I'd rather focus on trying to help the person learn something03:26
XanthippusLike, start at the end of a line, press enter twice, then paste it?03:27
ikoniadougbb: I'm not being negative, I'm being real, if you can't copy and paste a line, then running a vm is out of scope03:27
XanthippusOr enter once?03:27
ikoniaXanthippus: genuine question, why are you trying to set shared memory ?03:27
dougbbXanthippus: ... you're pushing me over into ikonia's camp :)03:27
ghostconnwell what's your email because ill bet you 50$ that by the end of the week ill have a track made without you're help03:27
ghostconnlol03:27
ekaj$5003:27
sunshine123It still is looking for the missing variable and it has been running for over 10 minutes...:'(03:28
Xanthippusikonia: Trying to do this: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics03:28
ikoniaXanthippus: why ?03:28
ikoniaXanthippus: what do you hope to achieve setting shared memory ?03:28
XanthippusPreventing attacks to httpd among ohers I guess03:29
ikoniaXanthippus: why will that prevent and attack ?03:29
XanthippusLmmex03:30
XanthippusLemme look for the articles03:30
ikoniaXanthippus: you're doing something just reading an article blind03:30
ikoniaXanthippus: just leave it alone unless you have a genuine reason to change it03:30
ikoniaor you understand it enough to make a decision03:31
XanthippusOh it's in the guide itself03:31
ikoniayes but you don't know why you're doing it03:31
ikoniayou're just typing things blindly because a guide tells you to03:31
Xanthippus:-/03:31
XanthippusMy main goal is to make my server secure, is that too much to ask?03:32
ikoniayes, if you are just typing things blind03:32
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dougbbXanthippus: the problem is that since you don't know the ramifications of what you're doing, you don't have a context for judging whether you are making it more secure, or less secure03:33
dougbbyou should also look at the bit on one of the pages that you posted where it says that the Ubuntu security team disagrees with some of those recommendations03:33
XanthippusSounds like doing that makes it less secure then03:34
kristofferwhat command to see my system info like rams and etc03:34
kristoffer????03:34
Xanthippus(Shared memory)03:34
dougbblinux attracts people who like to fiddle with stuff (myself included). but knowing when to stop fiddling and let the system do its job is also an important skill if you want to get real work done03:34
crimsonmanekristoffer: "top"03:34
ikoniakristoffer: "free" as I told you earlier03:34
Magiobiwankristoffer, there's also "free -m" to see Free RAM and Swap03:35
MagiobiwanIn megabytes03:35
MagiobiwanThere's "df -h"03:35
MagiobiwanTO see disk space03:35
XanthippusOkay, so since secured memory sounds like a bad idea to you guys, what _can_ I do to make it more secure?03:36
ikoniaXanthippus: did you not listen to what's being said ?03:36
nickymabolinHey guys. Does anyone know if the ubuntu devs are considering putting LUK in ubuntu by default? Or if they are at least making it an optional install?03:36
furiani have a second hard drive installed in my system /dev/sdb mounted as /media/storage, how would i make that rw for all users?03:36
ikoniaXanthippus: you have to understand/have experience03:36
ikoniaXanthippus: there is no "do this and it's secure"03:36
XanthippusI know that's03:37
escottfurian, what filesystem is it?03:37
dougbbXanthippus: best way to increase security is to not run services you don't need .... other than that, it's experience, like ikonia said03:37
furianext403:37
XanthippusI just want it to be secure from basic hacking techniques03:37
ikoniaXanthippus: you're not listening03:37
furiando you need to see the fstab line?03:37
escottfurian, then you just chmod o+rw /media/storage03:37
XanthippusSuch as brute forcing passwords etch03:37
Xanthippusetc*03:37
ikoniaXanthippus: you're just reading things off the internet03:37
escottfurian, that may not be desirable though as it allows user X to delete a folder created by user Y03:38
Xanthippusikonia: Trying to get what "experience" I can03:38
nickymabolinHey guys. Does anyone know if the ubuntu devs are considering putting LUK in ubuntu by default? Or if they are at least making it an optional install?03:38
ikoniaXanthippus: right, so there you go, try things, learn what's good/bad and why03:38
furianits for a general storage and backup drive, i am the only user03:38
dougbbXanthippus: what passwords are you worried about people brute-forcing?03:38
furianescott, ^03:38
XanthippusMainly ssh03:38
ikoniaXanthippus: get hacked, learn how they got in, what the damage was03:38
ikoniaXanthippus: it's all just experience03:38
nickymabolinXanthippus: make the passwords long (20 characters) and complicated (not just letter/number) and you will be fine from bruteforce03:39
XanthippusThere were a couple of attempts already isoniazid03:39
escottfurian, in that case it might just be easier to chown it to yourself with chown username:username /media/storage03:39
dougbbXanthippus: ok, the recommendation to only allow ssh authentication using ssh keys on one of those pages was a good one03:39
ikoniaXanthippus: how ?03:39
chalcedonymy husband upgraded his ubuntu from 10.10 to 10.12, now his yahoo mail attachments that he sends me, won't open. is that Ubuntu or Firefox or what?03:39
Xanthippusnickymabolin: I was thinking RSA keys, which I did03:39
ikoniaXanthippus: what where these attemps (please don't say ssh brute force)03:39
nickymabolinXanthippus: pm'd you03:39
furianthank you03:39
furianthat did the trick03:40
escottchalcedony, won't open... meaning what? what kind of attachments?03:40
XanthippusThat was it, ikonia03:40
ikoniaXanthippus: come on.....03:40
XanthippusLet me guess, I get kicked  -_-03:40
dougbbnickymabolin: you have to assume hackers have an infinite amount of time and resources, so thinking that anything is safe from brute force attack is a bad idea03:40
ikoniaXanthippus: everyone gets those03:40
furianxubuntu 12.1 is rather snappy on this old machine03:40
ikoniaXanthippus: they are just dumb bots cycling through known passwords/usernames03:40
escottdougbb, if you assume that there isn't any point in securing anything03:40
ikoniaXanthippus: think about it logcially - how can you defend against them03:40
nickymabolindougbb: do the math though....it doesn't matter how much time they have because when you itnroduce enough variables it could accelerate the amount of time it would take for them to crack the pw to beyond the age of the universe03:41
dougbbescott: sure there is ... the goal is to make your system harder to crack than average, so that they spend time elsewhere :)03:41
dougbbnickymabolin: A) that thinking isn't accurate, for reasons outside the scope of this channel, and B) what if they get lucky?03:42
escottdougbb, which contradicts your assumption. if they have infinite resources they attack all computers at the same time03:42
nickymabolindougbb: the point of security is not to make something absolutely unhackable. Everything is hackable on some level. The point of security is to make so many barriers that attempting to break past them is kinda pointless...like my password idea03:42
dougbbWith something like ssh, requiring authentication using keys is the answer03:42
Xanthippusikonia: RSA keys...03:42
yokobrhey guys, how do i know if my ati drivers are installed correctely?03:42
nickymabolindougbb: How is that not accurate? IF they get lucky then you obviously didn't choose a good password03:42
ikoniaXanthippus: ok good, that's one idea03:42
escottyokobr, what is the output of "glxinfo | grep -i renderer"03:43
dougbbnickymabolin: but requiring ssh keys is better/safer than your password idea, and comes at no cost :)03:43
nickymabolindougbb: I never said it wasnt better. I was just giving advice lol03:43
nickymabolindougbb: I didn't know it was ssh03:43
dougbbescott: you can choose to go reductio ad absurdum if you want, that doesn't make my point any less valid03:43
Xanthippusikonia: How bout fail2ban03:44
yokobrescott, X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)03:44
ikoniaXanthippus: another good idea,03:44
escottyokobr, then its not installed correctly03:44
ikoniaXanthippus: this is what I mean about looking at the problem, working out the risk and minimising it03:44
ikoniarather than just typing things blind03:44
yokobrhow do i do that? i've followed the guide, installed fglrx03:44
dougbbnickymabolin: in any case, your advice about passwords is old thinking ... https://xkcd.com/936/03:45
XanthippusWell I had fail2ban before, again, not the first time03:45
ikoniaXanthippus: got to be careful though as set it up wrong and it will open a bigger hole03:45
nickymabolindougbb: oh shi-03:45
ikoniaXanthippus: so again, understand the problem, understand how to minimise it, then understand the implementation of the solution03:45
XanthippusHow so, ikonia03:46
escottdougbb, the style of the statement is in the style of the statements that are common in the cryptography community. but its a ridiculous thing to say in that community (assume the attacker can perform X flops, or that the attacker can factor primes in X time etc). you clearly mean it in some other sense... not sure what sense that is or what you want it to mean.03:46
ikoniaXanthippus: how so what ?03:46
XanthippusI just setup a jail for ssh03:46
Xanthippusikonia: How would it make a hole?03:46
escottyokobr, what guide did you follow?03:46
ikoniaXanthippus: think about it, if you are under attack, that's a lot of connections, if you set the retention policy wrong, it will make a list of rules that is longer than your machine can handle.,03:46
ikoniaXanthippus: it will dos your own service by making the firewall too big for your syste m03:47
dougbbnickymabolin: yeah ... there are some other, more scientific papers that discuss that theory, but I think the comic makes the point very effectively :)03:47
ikoniaXanthippus: or the load of adding/removing rules if you set it too short,03:47
XanthippusAnd how to un-dos?03:47
chalcedonyescott, we both have Yahoo mail, he mails the laptop (my account) in order to print from open office .doc(s), but my Yahoo mail can't open them, it just sits here trying and apparently times out, i don't know how to see an error in Yahoo mail.03:47
nickymabolindougbb: indeed it does.03:47
mengazoDoes a Linux equivalent of Adobe Lightroom exist, by any chance? I am seeking to migrate from the Windows platform and am looking for an application with similar functionality. Nothing like Photoshop/GIMP, an application focused on photo manipulation for photographers.03:47
almoxarifea linux testosterone fest?03:47
ikonia"un dos" come on03:47
XanthippusDoesn't fail2ban ban IPs if they connect too much?03:47
ikoniaXanthippus: if you don't understnad what you're doing - you shouldn't be doing it03:47
ikoniaXanthippus: correct,03:47
ikoniaXanthippus: how does it ban them03:48
yokobrfrom ubuntu docs03:48
XanthippusAdds them to a config file...?03:48
yokobrescott03:48
ikoniaXanthippus: no, it adds a firewall (iptables) rule03:48
ikoniaXanthippus: and where is that iptables rule kept ?03:48
escottchalcedony, so you click on the attachment in yahoo and say "download" and what happens03:48
almoxarife!iptables03:49
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.03:49
dougbbmengazo: not TMK, although I'd be interested if there were :)03:49
escottyokobr, can you actually send me the link of what you followed03:49
XanthippusIn /etc/iptables or where iptables config is kept...?03:49
ikoniaXanthippus: no, in ram03:49
Xanthippus:face palm:03:49
ikoniaXanthippus: the iptables rules are kept in ram03:49
ikoniaXanthippus: so think about it, if you don't have a regular flush pattern and you keep adding more rules03:49
dougbbmengazo: ristretto has some nice features, as well as geeqie, but nothing with the kind of features that lightroom does03:49
designbybeckI think I might be needing to replace my Dell Mini 10 Netbook soon. What might be a more powerful yet portable smaller laptop for the job to run Ubuntu on?03:49
chalcedonyescott the twirly circle thing shows for a while and vanishes. the attachment doesn't open.03:50
escott!hcl | designbybeck03:50
ubottudesignbybeck: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection03:50
Xanthippusdesignbybeck: I have ASUS Eee PC 1000HE, it's pretty good03:50
ikoniaXanthippus: 1.) the list will become big and eat your ram 2.) every packet that comes in needs to be checked against that massive list, making it eat resources c.) every packet needs to be checked, slowing down your interface d.) your firewall can crash blocking everything03:50
escottchalcedony, sounds like a problem with your browser/yahoo03:50
ikoniaXanthippus: see what I mean about not understanding can create a bigger hole ?03:50
ikoniathat's just one easy example03:51
mengazodougbb: Hmmm, perhaps I could virtualize Windows and use Lightroom, in the meantime. A lack of software support is one issue I have with Linux, unfortunately03:51
designbybeckThank you Xanthippus, I wonder if my bro in law still has his i can steal away!03:51
Xanthippuslol03:51
chalcedonyescott, i didn't change anything on my side.03:51
escottmengazo, people who like adobe are often unhappy with any alternatives that get suggested03:52
chalcedonyescott, its something that happened with him changing ubuntu or new firefox03:52
mengazoescott: You honestly can't blame them lol03:52
ikoniaXanthippus: see the point I'm trying to hilight to you ?03:53
Hishamoto_MasukiOkay.03:53
Hishamoto_MasukiI'm gonna need me some help with my Android Tablet.03:53
Hishamoto_MasukiIt's a Pandigital.03:53
Hishamoto_MasukiIt only takes one finger on the touch screen at a time03:53
Hishamoto_MasukiLike when I try to play a game it won't let me press a and b at the same time03:53
Xanthippusikonia: What's a more extreme example?03:53
Hishamoto_MasukiHelp?03:53
ikoniaHishamoto_Masuki: how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?03:53
upgrayedddhi, is there a way to copy a less buffer to system clipboard?03:53
Hishamoto_MasukiI just need help :/03:54
XanthippusAnd can these flush patterns be scheduled?03:54
ikoniaXanthippus: there are many, but if you don't consider dos'ing yourself extreme....03:54
upgrayedddless, as in the unix/gnu utility03:54
Hishamoto_Masukiikonia: Would you know how?03:54
ikoniaHishamoto_Masuki: we only support ubuntu here, sorry03:54
escottmengazo, to some extent you can. they get used to doing it one particular way, and then throw a fit when a single tool works differently. sure you may be used to it and it may be efficient for you but why are you trying something different then?03:54
Hishamoto_Masukimmk.03:54
Hishamoto_MasukiThen I do need help with Ubunut03:54
Hishamoto_Masuki*Ubuntu03:54
ikoniaHishamoto_Masuki: in what way ?03:54
upgrayedddor is there an easier way to copy a file's contents to the system clipboard?03:54
escottupgrayeddd, you can dump the buffer to a file03:54
Hishamoto_MasukiI'm upgrading to 12.04 as we speak03:54
KvenMitebool:)03:54
upgrayedddescott: that's what I've done03:54
Hishamoto_MasukiFrom Xubuntu 10.0403:54
escott!info xclipboard | upgrayeddd03:54
upgrayedddbut I need to copy the file escott03:54
ubottuupgrayeddd: Package xclipboard does not exist in quantal03:54
upgrayedddescott: no X, on server03:54
Hishamoto_MasukiIs it going to switch operating systems? Will it delete my files?03:54
ikoniaHishamoto_Masuki: which files ?03:55
Hishamoto_MasukiMy desktop files, my music, etc03:55
escottupgrayeddd, then what clipboard are you talking about?03:55
ikoniaHishamoto_Masuki: shouldn't do03:55
Hishamoto_MasukiI backed it up just in case, but will it?03:55
Hishamoto_MasukiGood.03:55
Hishamoto_MasukiAlso03:55
upgrayedddescott: system one on the server03:55
blackshirthishamoto_masuki, what the problem was ?03:55
escottupgrayeddd, trick question then. there is no clipboard03:55
Hishamoto_MasukiI needed help with my Android Tablet :/03:55
upgrayedddescott: for example, I have a shortcut of copying tmux buffer to clipboard from system on server03:55
ikoniaHishamoto_Masuki: I'll tell you one more time - we don't support that here03:55
upgrayedddescott: there is...03:56
Hishamoto_MasukiBlackshirt asked me something, Ikonia03:56
escottupgrayeddd, tmux may have some kind of buffer but bash doesn't03:56
Hishamoto_MasukiI wasn't talking to anyone in particular, he asked what was my first problem03:56
upgrayedddescott: I am using zsh, does this make a difference?03:56
Hishamoto_MasukiExcept him03:56
ikoniaok03:56
mengazoescott: You do bring up a good point. In that particular case, I would have to assume that most wouldn't want to add in the extra time to adjust to a different application, when they already use another one that already works perfectly for them03:56
escottupgrayeddd, possibly03:56
escottchalcedony, not sure what to tell you, and we would need more details about exactly how your husband is attaching his files03:57
chalcedonyescott, he clicks on attach in firefox03:57
chalcedonyer Yahoo mail in fireofx03:57
escottmengazo, which is reasonable... but if thats ones feeling then why ask for an alternative...03:57
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mengazoescott: My whole reason for even considering migrating to another computing platform solely has to do with my concerns over the future of the Windows platform and my dissatisfaction of Windows 8/RT03:58
escottchalcedony, firefox works. if there is a problem then its with yahoo. it could be yahoo interacting with his firefox or your browser... but its on the yahoo side03:58
chalcedonymengazo, you're wise03:58
mengazoescott: So I'm seeking alternatives, including Ubuntu03:58
escottchalcedony, you could look at the email source and see if the attachment body is missing. perhaps yahoo is failing to attach the file he uploads to the email so there is a reference to the attachment but no contents.03:59
Xanthippusikonia: Just one more thing before I probably nuke myself with shared memory again: back to what you said, where would I get the experience you described?03:59
ikoniaXanthippus: time03:59
ikoniaXanthippus: research, time, experience04:00
XanthippusWhich I am currently trying to do04:00
ikoniaXanthippus: with respect you don't seem to be, you seem to be just typing things blind04:00
XanthippusResearch = http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics04:00
XanthippusI didnt just do that one04:00
Xanthippusbtw04:00
escottmengazo, if you want those particular programs the best thing you can do is write to adobe/macneil/maya whatever and say "i really want to switch platforms and ditch windows, and would like to buy your product on that platform"04:00
ikoniaXanthippus: no, that's typing that guide blind04:00
ikoniaXanthippus: just doing guides isn't research or experience04:00
ikoniatyping blind is very bad04:00
Xanthippus:-/04:01
XanthippusThe guide isn't at least a good start?04:01
ikoniano04:01
ikoniaas you are just typing things blind and possibly doing more damage than good04:01
escottchalcedony, the only other thing i can think of would be is if the files he creates with libreoffice are subtly different and cannot be opened by your version of word, but in that case the file would download first04:01
XanthippusOkay, then point me to a "good start"04:01
ikoniaXanthippus: do what I told you04:02
ikoniaand do it over a long time so you gain experience04:02
XanthippusYou said research, but I have no idea where I am supposed to start04:02
dougbbmengazo: in some cases the software you want will only be available on 1 platform, and in some cases  there are suitable alternatives in linux that just require a bit of re-learning04:02
ikoniaXanthippus: books, the web, university papers04:03
escottupgrayeddd, http://superuser.com/questions/421463/why-does-ctrl-v-notpaste-in-bash-linux-shell04:03
dougbbmengazo: if what you want though is good software + !windows, think seriously about a mac04:03
XanthippusOkay then, thanks for the_real_crimper  advice04:03
mengazodougbb: That's what I was thinking, as well, honestly. Sadly, I honestly feel as though Linux has a long way to go before it can enter the mainstream. Relying on a terminal to tweak any segment of a distro is simply inadequate for today's computing standards, in 201204:03
XanthippusThe advice*04:03
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XanthippusiPad inserted name04:04
Guest18221oh so help me04:04
escottupgrayeddd, so getting back to your question. bash has "kill ring" but its not a clipboard in any meaningful sense. if you open vim and vim takes over the tty session. you probably can't paste from the bash kill ring04:04
dougbbmengazo: as a geek I tend to disagree with you on that, but I understand your perspective as it applys to a more general audience :)04:04
Guest18221and no I do not want to take a semester long class in xubuntu04:05
Guest18221linx unix etc.04:05
dougbbmengazo: but when it comes to debugging, or lesser-used features, even windows sometimes tells you to open up a terminal :)04:05
perlhelpI'm currently trying to get the script to work... It's supposed to extract the link to the mp3s on the page, but a pipe is breaking somewhere, and I'm not sure if my regex is correct... http://pastebin.com/TKgp9Gfq Any thoughts?04:05
escottupgrayeddd, i live in X so i've never tried this in an actual tty... but its not a built in feature04:05
mengazodougbb: I'm certainly a geek myself, as well, but at times, you just want to keep life simple lol04:05
Guest18221I am told to make a command04:05
Guest18221in the command prompt04:05
dougbbmengazo: that's why I have switched to ubuntu :)04:06
mengazoWindows has a balance of that04:06
Guest18221on the dash shit how many steps do I need to know04:06
escott!language | Guest1822104:06
ubottuGuest18221: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:06
ikoniaGuest18221: that language is unacceptable, please stop04:06
Guest18221and the xubuntu friendly thing to add a program is a joke04:06
ikoniaGuest18221: what is your question04:06
Guest18221and I can't take the tutorial because flash won't load and04:06
Guest18221it wouldn't matter cause I can't turn on any sound.04:07
ikoniaGuest18221: what is your question04:07
mengazodougbb: Ubuntu has come a long way since I started using it in 2007, I'll certainly give it credit for that04:07
TriiKsHello04:07
perlhelpHelp with this? http://pastebin.com/TKgp9Gfq04:07
perlhelpPerhaps?04:07
ikoniaperlhelp: try #bash04:08
escottperlhelp, is there  a question in any of this?04:08
perlhelpJust give me a moment...04:08
mengazodougbb: It's just that when you've grown up using a certain platform, it's hard to jump ship. I have such an emotional attachment to Windows. That's why it's even been hard to even purchase tablets with Android or iOS. It's not the same04:09
dougbbmengazo: actually you reminded me of a question I have ... I recently switched to compiz under xubuntu, and on firefox my window decorations keep disappearing. Does anyone have a suggestion for that? The solutions I was able to find with searching were not effective.04:09
ioexceptionGuest18221: could it be that flash is not installed?04:09
dougbbmengazo: yes, but on the bright side, by learning new systems you improve your brain :)04:09
escottGuest18221, rather than list a bunch of complaints you might pick one thing you want to fix. do a little experimentation, and then come to us with a better defined question04:09
Guest18221thank you for being the self appointed "us"04:10
mengazodougbb: If you're working in IT, that's always a plus!04:10
upgrayedddescott: ok thanks, I just used sftp to move file over and view+copy/paste that way locally with X04:10
ikoniaGuest18221: do you have a question about ubuntu, yes/no ?04:11
Guest18221I would like to install flash to begin with.04:11
ikonia!flash | Guest1822104:11
ubottuGuest18221: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash04:11
yokobrplease, could someone help me installing ati drivers?04:11
amayeris this where i ask questions about the website? or is there another channel for that?04:12
ikoniaamayer: about what website ?04:12
amayer..the ubuntu website04:13
Guest18221yeah and I have both uninstalled and reinstalled flash and yet firefox continues to let me know that I need to install flash.04:13
Jordan_Uyokobr: Before we can help we need you to answer the questions we ask. Could you please link to the exact guide you followed?04:13
ikoniaamayer: you can try here, or you may get directred to #ubuntu-website04:13
ikoniaGuest18221: how did you install it ?04:13
TommehMGoogle Chrome keeps killing itself when trying to play youtube in ubuntu 10.0404:13
amayerikonia: thanks04:13
Guest18221I used the ubuntu software library.04:13
er_prashantIs anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??04:14
er_prashantIs anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??04:14
er_prashantIs anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??04:14
FloodBot1er_prashant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:14
yokobrJordan_U, sorry, this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver04:14
ikoniaGuest18221: can you show me the name of the package you installed please.04:14
ikoniawhois er_prashant04:14
ioexception:-)04:14
er_prashantIs anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??04:14
er_prashanthi ikonia04:14
Guest18221I am not sure how to show you the name other than flash.04:14
ikoniaGuest18221: please do "dpkg -l | grep -i flash"04:15
dougbbmengazo: the other thing that using multiple platforms does for you is that it helps you see problems to be solved in a more general way, and helps you avoid thinking in terms of "how do I run _this_ program"04:15
ikoniaGuest18221: show me the output in a pastebin please.04:15
Guest18221I am in the most currentxubuntu and whatever the flash that is show there.04:15
ioexceptionGuest18221: Get flash from adobe.com and follow instructions04:15
dougbband for an IT person, it also helps promote your job security :)04:15
Jordan_Uyokobr: Earlier you said that you "followed the guide, installed fglrx" but the guide you linked to is for the "Radeon" driver, not for fglrx.04:15
Guest18221I did try to get it from flash itself I chose deb04:15
Guest18221the aechive mge. downloads04:16
perlhelpThe last perl regex match is failing in the following script, plus I'm not sure whether or not I'm going about it the write way. I'm trying to extract links from the pages and display them. http://pastebin.com/TKgp9Gfq04:16
Guest18221then I see a series of files.04:16
ikoniaGuest18221: please do "dpkg -l | grep -i flash"04:16
ikoniaGuest18221: show me the output in a pastebin please.04:16
mengazodougbb: Amen to that. I couldn't agree more lol04:16
er_prashantIs anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??04:16
yokobrah, sorry, i just picked the purple link from google.. well, i just done a sudo apt-get install fglrx, but it didn't worked.. so i tryed to install the binary driver from ati website04:16
yokobrJordan_U cd /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.97.100.3/build; sh make.sh --nohints --uname_r=3.5.0-18-generic --norootcheck......(bad exit status: 1) [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-8.97.100.3 with DKMS [Error] Kernel Module : Removing fglrx-8.97.100.3 from DKMS04:17
Guest18221how do I do that line you showed me?04:17
ikoniaGuest18221: open a termina, and type it04:17
ikoniaGuest18221: then put the output into pastebin.ubuntu.com in a web browser04:17
TommehMGoogle Chrome keeps killing itself when trying to play youtube in ubuntu 10.0404:17
Guest18221how do I open a terminal04:18
Jordan_Uer_prashant: Try explaining the actual problem you're having, with complete error messages if any. If you don't get any response here after a few minutes try #openstack.04:18
mengazodougbb: Playing around with multiple platforms is beneficial in many ways. I simply see it as expanding technical knowledge and, as you've mentioned, securing your job position lol04:18
ikoniaGuest18221: alt+f2 and type "terminal"04:18
escottikonia, Guest18221 is running xubuntu. he needs to find it in the menu04:18
escottikonia, right?04:18
ikoniaescott: oh, xubuntu, sure04:18
kristofferhow can i majk my computer play a dubstep sound when my computer is turned on04:19
Jordan_Uyokobr: What link did you get that from? Why aren't you using the "Additional Drivers" tool to install fglrx?04:19
Jordan_Ukristoffer: At the login screen, or after login?04:20
yokobrJordan_U, couldn't find it on xubuntu04:20
kristofferJordan_U no at startup when starting computer so it less boring04:21
dougbbyokobr: go to the software center and then search for/install jockey04:21
escottyokobr, are you running 12.10 or something older?04:21
kristofferJordan_U i want it to play eatch different song from my musics folders every time04:21
dougbbit will drag some kde stuff in though, FYI04:21
er_prashantI have installed openstack on Ubuntu 12.04 server. but when i try to launch a instance, it launches the instance with task as error and state as scheduled, any idea's anyone to resolve this??04:21
Jordan_Uyokobr: If I remember correctly, it's in System>Administration. If I'm remembering that wrong you can always also run "jockey-gtk" from a terminal (*without* sudo).04:21
yokobrdougbb already done that, but it won't start or give any error04:21
Guest18221it looks like a straight line in that prompt and I can't find that on my keyboard04:21
yokobrescott, 12.1004:21
escottyokobr, jockey was removed in 12.10 its not part of software sources04:22
escottnow04:22
Jordan_U!pm | er_prashant04:22
ubottuer_prashant: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.04:22
ikoniaGuest18221: cut and paste it from this04:22
ikoniadpkg -l | grep -i flash04:22
er_prashantok sorry Jordan04:22
er_prashantI have installed openstack on Ubuntu 12.04 server. but when i try to launch a instance, it launches the instance with task as error and state as scheduled04:22
yokobrescott, so how do i install it now?04:22
er_prashantso can anyone help please??04:22
escottyokobr, so start "software sources" and the last tab is "additional drivers"04:22
ikoniaer_prashant: asking every 30 seconds won't help it just gets annoying04:22
ikoniaer_prashant: leave it a while between asking04:22
dougbbyokobr: Jordan_U had a good point, you want jockey-gtk :)04:22
escottdougbb, jockey is not present in yokobr's release. it was removed in 12.10 and up04:23
dougbbescott: I have 12.10 :)04:23
yokobrdougbb, i don't have it, it's 12.10... and it's xubuntu, i can't find software sources too04:23
dougbbalthough it's not impossible that I added the repo that includes it to the stock install04:23
escottdougbb, but its not part of the standard install. i think you get it if you had it earlier, but they are moving away from it04:24
TommehMGoogle Chrome keeps killing itself when trying to play youtube in ubuntu 10.0404:24
dougbbescott: well this was a clean install04:24
Tux_1Has anyone here used e4defrag ?04:24
Jordan_U!anyone | Tux_104:24
ubottuTux_1: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.04:24
yokobroh found it!04:24
ioexceptionTommehM: so maybe there's a Google Chrome bug?04:24
Guest18221how do i directly copy something from an xchat line?04:25
ikoniaGuest18221: highlight it, got to "copy" from the edit menu04:25
ioexceptiontime to unignore Guest18221 :-)04:25
er_prashantI have installed openstack on Ubuntu 12.04 server. but when i try to launch a instance, it launches the instance with task as error and state as scheduled04:25
ikoniaGuest33953: then middle mouse button into the terminal04:25
ikoniaioexception: don't need a commentary of who you ignore/not04:25
dougbber_prashant: chances are that no one here knows the answer04:26
dougbbtry #openstack04:26
escottdougbb, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/i386/jockey-gtk04:26
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dougbbescott: I already have it, but thanks :)04:26
mengazodougbb: One other application that has prevented me from fully switching operating systems, as well: Foobar2000; only on Windows, sadly :/04:26
TommehMioexception, Maybe.04:27
mengazoI've been waiting patiently for a Mac and Linux equivalent :(04:27
Tux_1ubottu: If e4defrag ;then ; how does it work for you ; fi04:28
ubottuTux_1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:28
escottdougbb, i'm saying look at that link. also run "dpkg -L jockey-gtk" you will see no binary in the output. there is no jockey-gtk for a 12.10 user to run04:28
Jordan_UTux_1: e4defrag does exactly what it's supposed to.04:28
dougbbescott: got it :)04:31
Tux_1Jordan_U: Thanks for the reply, e4defrag did not destroy your data ?04:32
escottdougbb, canonical does a terrible job of announcing these kinds of changes... it kinda drives me crazy04:32
amayerwhen i go here: (i click the download link on the homepage and click "download 12.10 32 bit" on the download page)04:32
amayerhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest04:32
amayerand click the link that says "Not now, take me to the download"04:32
amayerit points me here:04:33
FloodBot1amayer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:33
amayerhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts04:33
almoxarifemengazo: foobar should run with wine, time to switch04:33
Jordan_UTux_1: No. If it destroyed data it wouldn't have been released as part of e2fsprogs or shipped in Ubuntu.04:33
ikoniaamayer: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop04:33
mengazoalmoxarife: Buh bye, Windows04:34
amayerikonia: i go there and click "downlod 12.10"04:34
amayerthe link "not now, take me to download" leads me to a download page for 12.0404:34
Tux_1Jordan_U: Thanks, the only info I could find on  google said it was still beta04:35
ikoniaamayer: it doesn't04:35
homeI am not touching Ubuntu until they get their act together04:35
homeright now the only sane choices are Xubuntu, and to an extent Kubuntu04:35
amayerwhen i click the link it asks me to save a file with 12.04 in the title04:35
escott!ot | home04:35
ubottuhome: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:35
Jordan_UTux_1: You're welcome.04:35
amayerikonia: go to the link you gave me and try and download the 32 bit version.04:36
amayerthe "not now take me to download" link points to the long term support version04:37
ikoniaamayer: no it doesn't04:37
amayerdude i just did it.04:37
ikoniaamayer: if you click "get 12.10" it will take you to 12.10, if you click "get 12.04 LTS" it will get 12.0404:37
lunaphyteamayer: what is your goal?04:37
amayer...interesting. when i press ctrl+f5 now it points me to the latest downlod04:38
ikoniayou clicked the wrong link04:38
amayerno i clicked the first orange button that said download 12.1004:39
Jordan_Uamayer: There are many rotating mirrors, one mirror might have had an incorrect link.04:39
amayersorry for the confusion, now my file is downloading correctly04:39
amayercan i ask general linux questions here? or is there a better channel for that?04:41
escottamayer, depends on the question itself04:41
lunaphyteamayer:  /join ##linux04:42
amayer2 #'s?04:42
dougbbyes04:42
dougbbit's twice as good :)04:42
amayerescott: i have a question about setting up a mutil-boot linux/linux/linux system04:42
amayerill check in ##linux04:42
blackshirtamayer : mutil-boot ? What is it?04:43
blackshirtwrong type ?04:43
amayerputting ubuntu, debian, and crunchbang on the same computer04:43
escottamayer, not enough to really nail things down. it depends on what bootloaders and what distros you want to have04:43
escottamayer, but if you question is "how do i boot fedora using the ubuntu bootloader" thats reasonable for both fedora and ubuntu channels04:44
amayerescott: right now i have ubuntu installed on my laptop. i have 3 other 10Gb partitions. the next distro i want to install is debian. im wondering if i should have made a /boot partition, or if i need 2 boot partitions? ive never done a multi-boot system before04:46
escottamayer, if you have an EFI system then each of those can put their own version of grub-efi in the efi partition and you can just select from the menu. otherwise you have to pick one to be the primary grub and then the issue is how to get the boot parameters from distro X into the config managed by distro Y04:46
amayeris efi a file system? is this like a /boot partition?04:47
blackshirtada beberapa type04:47
escottamayer, how old is the laptop and who manufactured it?04:48
amayerescott: is a compaq and its like 2 years old04:48
escottamayer, then its not EFI (almost certainly)04:48
amayersoo... how do i go about setting up mutli-boot(linux only, no windows) i googled it and only found windows and linux dual boot senarios04:49
escottamayer, when you install debian make sure debian does not install its bootloader to /dev/sda. you might be able to install the debian bootloader to /dev/sda# where # is the debian partition number (ie to the PBR instead of the MBR) this is less stable but grub should be able to chainload grub04:49
amayerso i want to make a seperate partition and make all of my distros install their boot loaders to that partition?04:51
escottamayer, so where things get confusing on the multi-boot linux is that debian is configured to manage its own bootloader. so when debian gets a new kernel it updates /boot/grub/grub.cfg in debian's /boot, but the real /boot is the /boot for ubuntu because the grub on the mbr looks at ubuntu's grub.04:51
escottamayer, now os-prober is smart enough to see the other kernels and os'es and will generate entries for them... but won't be auto-updated by debians getting a new kernel04:51
amayerescott: so i want to make 1 /boot partition and make all distros use the same partiton?04:52
escottamayer, and those entries may not have all the entries one would like them to have (ie you make a modification to the boot options in debian... not sure how/if those get over to ubuntus /boot)04:52
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escottamayer, you definitely don't want that... because then each distro stomps on each others grub.cfg04:52
escottamayer, the ideal thing would be a single /boot... with multiple grub.cfg (ie a grub.fedora.cfg and a grub.debian.cfg) that grub puts together to make the real configuration... but i dont think grub has any ability to do that04:53
amayerescott: i guess what i dont understand is grub. how do i get grub to let me pick which system im going to boot at start up?04:53
escotti dont actually know what the best way to deal with the issues are... im just trying to make you aware of them04:54
escottamayer, as it stands you will have the option to boot debian/crunchbang. just install debian. don't let it install a bootloader. boot ubuntu, rerun "update-grub" and os-prober will automatically pick up on the existence of the other linux distros04:55
dougbbamayer: that's grub's job, it gives you a menu of things to boot, prior to any OS starting up04:56
escottyou will see an option for the other distros when you boot.... it just may not always be in sync (ie debian gets a new kernel) with the other system until you run update-grub04:56
amayerso if ubuntu is the first operating system i installed. i should install the other operating systems. then boot to ubuntu and run update-grub and the next time i boot it will ask me which of the 3 distros i want to boot04:57
amayer?04:57
dougbbyes04:57
escottamayer, yes.04:57
dougbband try escott's suggestion of installing the other distros without grub, if they give you that option04:57
escottamayer, but if the other linux distros install their version of grub to the mbr... then its their responsibility to see ubuntu04:58
escottamayer, and you may have to do something in them to make them see ubuntu04:58
escottonly one OS can control the boot (with mbr, efi is different but you almost certainly dont have that)04:58
escottamayer, best thing to do would be to install your os last04:59
dougbbamayer: install ubuntu last04:59
escottyou might also want to consider kvm if you just want to play around with other linux distros04:59
dougbband let _it_ install grub04:59
escottthat ^^^ is assuming you want ubuntu to be the primary (default) linux you will be using05:00
dougbbor, if you already have ubuntu installed, you may have to follow the "zomg, how do I fix grub?" instructions :)05:00
dougbbescott: right05:00
dougbbbut ubuntu's grub seems to suck the least05:00
amayeri do want ubuntu to be the default. but i need debian and i want a 3rd system to test other linux distros05:01
Magiobiwano.O05:01
escottamayer, depending on what you mean by "test" and how powerful this laptop is, virtualization might be easier for you05:02
Magiobiwanamayer, if your laptop05:03
MagiobiwanHas Intel VT-x05:03
blackshirtamayer, i think you better stick with some virtualization solutions ...virtualbox was great one and available on reposutory05:03
bitpimpI installed openjdk on ubuntu and now need jps... any suggestions?05:03
bitpimpwould like to avoid installing sunjdk just for jps05:04
MagiobiwanOr AMD Virtualization sipport05:04
MagiobiwanYou might want to enable it in BIOS and just Virtualize some OSes05:04
OerHeks!java05:04
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.05:04
amayerthe laptop only has 1.5Gb ram and is an AMD 32 bit processor idk if it will run vitual too well05:04
mah454I Compiled new kernel and switch to this , but consoles [tty1-6] (Ctrl+Alt+F[123456]) not work !05:04
mah454How can find problem and fix it ?05:04
mah454compile new kernel (3.6.4)05:05
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escottmah454, (a) why are you compiling your own kernel (b) its probably a modesetting issue05:05
amayerwell its late here. i will try the stuff you guys sugessted and come back if i have an epic fail. thanks05:06
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mah454escott: what mode ?05:07
escott!nomodeset | mah45405:07
ubottumah454: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter05:07
escottmah454, do you have nvidia graphics?05:08
mah454escott: yes05:08
mah454escott: i must rebuild nvidia module ?05:09
escottmah454, yes you must05:09
mah454I will come back ...05:10
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asoltys_hi i'm getting this error whenever i try to apt-get install or upgrade: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend upstart-job for hostname, probably a dependency cycle.05:17
asoltys_i seem to be missing xinetd05:18
escottasoltys_, missing xinetd? why do you want xinetd?05:19
asoltys_i was getting errors that mentioned it, after running apt-get install -f for example05:21
escottasoltys_, perhaps some package pulled it in05:21
asoltys_any ideas about the upstart-job message? google isn't being very helpful..05:22
escott!info hostname05:24
ubottuhostname (source: hostname): utility to set/show the host name or domain name. In component main, is required. Version 3.11ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 11 kB, installed size 84 kB05:24
escottasoltys_, i think what is happening is that it is trying to install hostname. hostname installs an upstart-job as part of pre-depend05:24
escottthat is failing in some way05:24
asoltys_apt-get purge fails with messages about xinetd as well05:25
dougbbtry removing xinetd?05:25
escottasoltys_, well you certainly should not purge a required package. thats a bad idea05:25
dfgas-cr48where do i find the xorg config file?         12.0405:26
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Guest8798hmm, ubuntu 11.10 is overheating my laptop like crazy05:27
asoltys_http://paste.debian.net/208227/05:28
escott!info powertop | Guest8798 might help some05:28
ubottuGuest8798 might help some: powertop (source: powertop): Linux tool to find out what is using power on a laptop. In component main, is extra. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 164 kB, installed size 476 kB05:28
escottdfgas-cr48, doesn't exist unless you use nvidia05:28
dfgas-cr48yah, i use nvidia05:28
escottdfgas-cr48, then its /etc/X11/Xorg.conf IIRC05:29
dfgas-cr48not there :(05:29
oupateddieI have an external HDD coupled via USB port. The systems does not seem to see the HDD. Well this is sporadic, sometiems it sees sometimes not. Any ideas?05:29
escottdfgas-cr48, use nvidia means nvidia+proprietary drivers05:29
dfgas-cr48maybe this is why i have video tearing05:29
dfgas-cr48hmmmm05:29
escottoupateddie, plug in the USB and look at dmesg | tail -n 2005:29
oupateddiestand by05:29
dfgas-cr48i will have to change windows managers then, right now its just booting to xbmc05:29
almoxarifedfgas-cr48: locate a file with this much of the file name in it 'xorg.conf' , use the 'locate' command, tell me what you find05:31
oupateddieescott - device descriptor read/64, error -71 is displayed on the first line followed by05:31
oupateddienew full speed USB device number 12 using uhci_hcd05:32
escottoupateddie, can you paste the whole thing to paste.ubuntu.com05:32
Guest8798hmm, what do i do with powertop to find out power usage?05:32
oupateddiestand by05:32
escottoupateddie, ideally run "dmesg | tail -n ##" and keep increasing ## until there is a gap in the numbers on the left05:32
Jordan_UGuest8798: There isn't enough information available to the OS to actually determine the exact power usage of your computer.05:33
oupateddieescott -  have pasted05:34
Jordan_UGuest8798: Hopefully one day we'll have smart power supplies or similar in most computers, but that isn't the case today.05:34
escottoupateddie, i need the link :)05:35
oupateddiesorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349812/05:36
escottGuest8798, you can run powertop, it will show what processes are keeping the CPU busy,  there are a few tunables, but the bulk of the energy usage is probably coming from your graphics card05:36
Guest8798graphics card?05:37
asoltys_escott: i pasted my xinetd issue too, any suggestions?05:37
dougbbGuest8798: what kind of graphics do you have?05:37
dougbbasoltys_: what about removing xinetd?05:37
asoltys_dougbb: i tried, see http://paste.debian.net/208227/05:38
Guest8798ati hd457005:38
asoltys_seems like a bit of a catch-22 situation :)05:38
escottasoltys_, the way i would deal with that issue is to go into /var/lib/dpkg/info/xinetd.prerm and comment out the "set -e" on the second line05:39
dougbbisn't there a force option for apt-get?05:39
escottoupateddie, you have to paste to us the link generated when you submit to paste.ubuntu.com05:39
oupateddieescott I have here it is again  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349812/05:40
asoltys_escott: i don't see a set -e anywhere in that file: http://paste.debian.net/208229/05:40
escottoupateddie, the device is bad... can't say much more about it than that05:40
escottasoltys_, remove the "-e" after the shebang (#!/bin/sh05:41
oupateddieok, it is sporadic sometimes it works and then sometimes not, could it be the physical usb plug?05:41
escottoupateddie, maybe05:42
escottoupateddie, if its wobbling around and not making a solid electrical contact maybe05:43
oupateddiethanks05:43
escottoupateddie, could also be that the chip on the disk is overheating and bonking out05:43
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escottoupateddie, put it in the freezer for a few minutes...05:43
oupateddiewill tryn that but it is still cool here, it is early morning here in Africa\05:43
almoxarifecool in africa :)05:44
DudeetAnybody familiar with psybnc in here?05:44
oupateddiewell 20C is still cool05:44
Guest8798not cool with core temps at 96C here :(05:44
Guest8798its so hot its heating up the room :E05:45
almoxarife20c?05:45
* almoxarife does not know 'c'05:45
oupateddie20 degrees Celsuis05:45
asoltys_escott: ok, done.  and was able to remove xinetd now.  still can't install packages though: http://paste.debian.net/208231/05:45
escottasoltys_, no wonder you got problems: "The following packages will be REMOVED: sysvinit"05:46
escottasoltys_, maybe try to install upstart... i dunno. sysvinit... perhaps have an exorcism... or just burn it05:47
asoltys_yeah, i got problems. this was a new vps that supposedly had 12.04 but the apt sources were for hardy and lsb_release reported it as being hardy.  i replaced the apt sources with 12.04 ones and think i ran dist-upgrade or something and now it's FUBAR'd.  i'll ask them to burn it05:48
escottasoltys_, yeah you did that wrong. proper command is do-release-upgrade... you cant just swap out sources.list05:49
escottasoltys_, nuke it and try again05:49
asoltys_okey doke, thanks for your time!05:49
escott!eol | asoltys_ if they give you hardy again05:50
ubottuasoltys_ if they give you hardy again: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades05:50
asoltys_cool, thanks05:52
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escott!nickspam | ControllerSYR05:59
ubottuControllerSYR: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead. See also « /msg ubottu Guidelines »05:59
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pikahello i have removed pulseaudio i would like to know how to reinstall it06:06
escottpika, apt-get install pulseaudio06:07
blackshirtpika, aptitude reinstall blablabla06:08
escottthats not going to get everything back for you though. you might check your dpkg logs06:08
pikaescott : i did this bu the icon is still not showing06:08
blackshirtmahesa ?06:09
pikaescott: when i type "pulseaudio" in terminal its tells me the deamon is already running06:10
escottthats not going to get everything back for you though. you might check your dpkg logs06:10
pikaescott: how ?06:10
escottpika, you removed a core system functionality... doing so triggered the removal of lots of other stuff... you have to go put all that back too. /var/log/dpkg.log06:11
pikaescott oh i see06:12
escottpika, you could try and shortcut the process by reinstalling ubuntu-desktop with a fix-dependencies option... not sure exactly what that would be06:14
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dougbbIs there a clever way to stop the proliferation of ~/.goutputstream files?06:15
tdignanhey, every so often I completely lose a window in unity and can't find it with super+w, alt tab, or even switching workspaces, or double clicking the launcher icon06:17
tdignanare there any other ways to find windows that have been misplaced and move them?06:17
gutzmekevening all06:18
OerHekstdignan, press winkey + s06:18
tdignanwinkey is super06:18
tdignani covered that06:18
tdignanalthough thanks for caring06:18
Heisenberghi06:19
tdignanoh wait, +s?06:19
gutzmekim thinkin bout switchin distros06:19
dougbbxubuntu is nice :)06:19
tdignancool keybinding but that doesn't find them either06:19
Heisenberghow to change resolution of console, tty1, tty206:19
gutzmekim getting that06:19
tdignanit's the workspace switcher06:19
escottHeisenberg, there are kernel framebuffer resolution parameters06:20
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escottHeisenberg, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/fbcon.txt06:21
Heisenbergescott: thanks =D06:22
mah454I need command for find current screen resolution .06:24
tdignanxrandr06:25
aaasso im trying to compile something ('make release') from source and it says 'sound/core.h: no such file or directory'  if I do a apt-file I see that linux-headers have this file, however these are already installed.. the file that references this has the line #include <sound/core.h>... any ideas?06:26
gutzmekhappy birthday to me :)06:26
shuhaibhi everybody06:26
shuhaibhello..It was verry ver sad morning today..accidently deleted all my phone contact  today..please advice me to recover my contcat using any sotware06:26
aaasshuhaib what type of phone?06:27
escottaaas, did the ./configure step not catch the path to the kernel?06:27
shuhaibNokia06:27
escottaaas, perhaps make sure that kernel-headers are installed for what is coming out of uname06:27
aaasescott there is no configure with this particuar source (musescore)06:28
aaasescott yes tried that06:28
shuhaibaaas ->it nokia phone06:28
escottaaas, modify the makefile to include the search path/linker path06:28
escottaaas, -l and -L06:28
shuhaibNoika n8606:28
aaasshuhaib sorry i dont know if it's a feature phone... you might be sol..maybe there's another channel not really an #ubuntu question06:29
shuhaibokey06:29
shuhaibcan we sugget any recovery software for ubuntu06:30
shuhaiblet me try on that06:30
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aaasshuhaib unless you ever synced to outlook, facebook, etc... did you sync to ubuntu at some point? was it on a program or on the phone06:30
shuhaibany how its stores as csv file06:30
crimsonmanemaybe just go through your previous phone bill?06:31
shuhaibits in phone memory card06:31
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crimsonmanewho is your service provider, shuhaib ?06:32
aaasshuhaib ah and you want to try and run data recovery software on the memory card?06:32
shuhaibVodafone06:32
crimsonmaneyou're S.O.L06:33
shuhaibyep..I want try to recver my data on memory06:33
crimsonmaneyou can't06:33
crimsonmanebecause the data was never destroyed06:33
talpur_hi06:33
aaasshuhaib sorry I'm not familar, it depends on the filesystem type, but you would probably be better off just calling people06:34
aaasshuhaib just get on facebook or email and just send a mass email or something06:34
crimsonmanewhat he lost was a very special Party Line number ... it wasn't a good friend, otherwise he'd just meet up with that person and get the number06:34
Jordan_Ushuhaib: First, don't get your hopes up because you probably won't be able to recover anything. That said, does the phone support a USB Mass Storage device mode, or can you read the memory card from a card reader (connected to a computer)?06:35
shuhaibIn Tired couple of software available in windows asking but asking key06:35
talpur_hi members need help. I want to remove directry using command ...rm -r /usr/lib/jvm    message comes dirctory is write protected and this directory consists many other directories...But I want to forecly remove it..So whic command should I use06:36
crimsonmaneyeah you kinda have to pay for stuff sometimes, shuhaib06:36
shuhaibThere I could see my csv file.But I coudn't save my file as its trail version06:36
crimsonmanetalpur_: rm -f06:36
crimsonmaneshuhaib: your csv file is empty anyway06:36
shuhaibis there any software availabe in ubuntu to recover my file as free06:37
Jordan_Utalpur_: Why do you want to remove this directory?06:37
crimsonmanenope06:37
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shuhaibno it has file06:37
crimsonmaneshuhaib: the file exists. yeah. but it's empty.06:37
shuhaibit shows the file size as well06:38
Jordan_Ushuhaib: Presumably "4K"?06:38
shuhaib886 kb some thin it was showing06:38
crimsonmaneyes the file has reserved space06:38
talpur_Jorden_U: from two days I want to install jre for eclipse , so for that I install differnt packages but could get the Purpose now I find the sloution so I want to remove it again make fresh installation for that06:39
crimsonmanei'm telling you when you deleted your contacts, that file became empty. that is how it works06:39
aaasshuhaib http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191079106:39
Jordan_Ushuhaib: First, don't get your hopes up because you probably won't be able to recover anything. That said, does the phone support a USB Mass Storage device mode, or can you read the memory card from a card reader (connected to a computer)?06:39
aaasshuhaib but it will almost certainly be easier emailing people06:39
talpur_Jordan_U: from two days I want to install jre for eclipse , so for that I install differnt packages but could get the Purpose now I find the sloution so I want to remove it again make fresh installation for that06:39
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crimsonmaneshuhaib: the link provided by aaas will not help you. in their issue they want to recover deleted files. but in your issue the file is not deleted.06:40
Jordan_Utalpur_: The proper way to do that would be by removing the packages with apt-get, not by removing the files that the packages installed.06:40
shuhaibMy phone connected using USB06:40
talpur_Jardan_U: I don't remeber how many packages I have installed theer in two days06:41
shuhaibBut I don't have all people email..But I can do that in another way as well06:41
Jordan_Ushuhaib: You haven't answered my question. Is that because you didn't understand it or because you didn't see it?06:41
shuhaibNo i answered06:42
talpur_Jordan_U: I don't remeber how many packages I have installed theer in two days06:42
shuhaibJordan_U06:42
shuhaibit does the phone support a USB Mass Storage device mode ..06:42
Jordan_Utalpur_: "dpkg -S /usr/lib/jvm/" will list all installed packages with files in /usr/lib/jvm/.06:42
shuhaibJordan_U   it does the phone support a USB Mass Storage device mode ..06:43
Jordan_Ushuhaib: Please connect the phone in USBMS mode and pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".06:43
talpur_Jordan_U: list comes..now what command should I use to remove those packages..like one package is ..openjdk-6-jre06:44
shuhaibI connected my phone using usb06:45
shuhaiband it shows the mass stoarage06:45
shuhaibpastebin the output of "sudo blkid". what does it mean  Jordan_U?06:45
Jordan_Utalpur_: sudo apt-get remove openjdk-6-jre06:46
BluesKaj!blkid06:46
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)06:46
Jordan_Ushuhaib: Are you booted into Ubuntu currently?06:47
shuhaibJordan_U next step please06:47
shuhaibyep06:47
crimsonmanetalpur_: actually you should do "sudo apt-get purge <packagename>"06:47
shuhaibI am working ubuntu right now06:48
talpur_ordan_U: I find the command from your previous Answer remove package....thats a lot for your kind help06:48
Jordan_Ushuhaib: Do you know how to run commands in the terminal?06:48
Jordan_Utalpur_: You're welcome.06:48
talpur_crimsonmane: thanks a lot06:48
shuhaibyep06:48
shuhaibSure06:48
shuhaibI know how to run06:49
Jordan_Ushuhaib: Run "sudo blkid", then copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and give us a link to the pastebin that creates.06:49
Jordan_Ushuhaib: Did you understand my last comment?06:54
crimsonmanefinally06:55
phunyguy_x1_hey folks, I am trying out banshee for my media player, and I can't get it to stay running long enough to listen to an entire song.  It crashes after a couple minutes (freezes and window goes dim).  I can't get the banshee process to kill.  Tried a couple kill -9 {pid} commands, but it's not doing the trick.  How do I get this process killed short of logging out/rebooting?06:56
TomFlintHello06:57
crimsonmanephunyguy_x1_: killall -906:59
phunyguy_x1_crimsonmane, I did that.06:59
crimsonmanephunyguy_x1_: pkill -907:00
crimsonmanekillall uses "process name" not number, i think07:00
phunyguy_x1_nope.07:00
phunyguy_x1_i understand the kill commands.  THey just wont kill it07:00
crimsonmanephunyguy_x1_: ps -e | grep bansh07:00
phunyguy_x1_it laughs in the face of killall07:00
phunyguy_x1_there are two labeled as [defunct]07:00
tozenhi people does anybody knows to how can I change the size of mplayers window by the hotkeys? thx07:00
phunyguy_x1_tozen, someone here may know, but #mplayer has some good folks in it07:01
crimsonmanekill -9 <banshee process id>07:01
tozenphunyguy_x1_, 4example?07:02
crimsonmanetozen: alt+space07:02
phunyguy_x1_crimsonmane, for the third time, I have done that07:02
Jordan_Ushuhaib_: Run "sudo blkid", then copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and give us a link to the pastebin that creates.07:02
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Jordan_Ushuhaib_: Or, if you're not *very* motivated to get these contacts back, give up now.07:03
tozencrimsonmene, not this I mean x2, x4 smth like that07:03
crimsonmanetozen: google "mplayer hotkeys"07:04
phunyguy_x1_I have never seen kill -9 not kill a process07:04
phunyguy_x1_especially as sudo07:04
lotuspsychjei got a purple screen freezing at boot, need reboot to login screen, how can i solve?07:05
tdignana process can be defunct, but at that point it isn't running. just impossible to remove from the process table.07:05
node1hi all07:05
tdignanprocesses can't ignore sigkill07:05
phunyguy_x1_tdignan, it is definitely ignoring it07:05
crimsonmaneis banshee still open?07:06
tozencrimsonmane, it's so easy to say... don't you think I've already tried?07:06
node1have you ever tried ubuntu 12.10?07:06
crimsonmanetozen: you'd be surprised07:06
tozencrimsonmane: ok, I'll try again lol07:07
tdignanphunyguy_x1_: from man signal(7):   The signals SIGKILL and SIGSTOP cannot be caught, blocked, or ignored.07:07
crimsonmanetozen: what i meant was, some people dont try first07:07
tdignani'm going to side with the man page.07:07
phunyguy_x1_tdignan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349907/07:07
node1go ahead07:07
tdignanphunyguy_x1_: defunct is different, it's not running. the process is dead and gone07:07
tozencrimsonmane: I'm habit to use an search machine first, pal07:08
tdignanit's just that you can't remove the entry from the process table07:08
tdignanit's fine. just leave it07:08
crimsonmanephunyguy_x1_: now try "ps -e | grep bansh07:08
lotuspsychjewhat could cause a purple screen at boot to freeze? need hard shutdown to solve proper boot07:08
phunyguy_x1_crimsonmane, it is listed under ps -e07:08
crimsonmaneok was just curious07:09
tdignanthe only way you're getting rid of a 'defunct' process is by rebooting.07:09
OerHekstozen, hold winkey, there is a shortkey to resize any windows > alt middle mouse drag07:09
phunyguy_x1_tdignan, I cant get banshee to relaunch07:09
tdignanphunyguy_x1_: i don't think it's related to the process table. can you pastebin the output of "strace banshee 2>log.txt"07:09
tdignanactually "strace banshee &>log.txt" is best07:09
tdignanthere might be a pid file or something left behind that just needs to be rm'd07:09
phunyguy_x1_the strace may not show anything07:10
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: Please pastebin the output of "pstree -p".07:10
tdignantry it and see07:10
phunyguy_x1_if I run the banshee command by itself I just get a blinking cursor and no output07:10
tdignando the strace please.07:10
crimsonmanegksudo banshee07:10
tdignanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process <-- read more here.07:10
tozenOerHeks: dgag07:10
phunyguy_x1_wow it got full quick07:11
phunyguy_x1_I ctrl-c'd it07:11
phunyguy_x1_lots of lines07:11
tozenOerHeks: dragging isnota solution07:11
tdignandid you not do the redirect!07:11
tdignanphunyguy_x1_: &>log.txt <------ was an important part07:11
phunyguy_x1_nope ran it before you corrected07:11
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: crimsonmane: Do *not* run banshee as root, that is a silly and possibly dangerous thing to do.07:11
tdignaneh 2> shoulda done it as well07:11
tdignanjust 2> would allow banshee to output any of its own stdout07:12
OerHekstozen then F11 full screen is your only option.07:12
tdignanand redirect only the stderr (strace output in our case)07:12
tozenok, thx07:12
phunyguy_x1_tdignan nothing changed, still lots of output that is cryptic.07:12
tdignanphunyguy_x1_: you are supposed to pastebin that output and allow me to read it07:12
tdignanbecause I understand it, it is not cryptic to me07:12
tdignanman, this is like taking a horse to the stream and then forcing it to drink.07:13
phunyguy_x1_lol, ok... hang tight07:13
crimsonmaneit's interesting learning07:13
Jordan_Ucrimsonmane: Recommending running commands as root, when they were clearly not designed to be, is irresponsible. Please be more careful in the future and only recommend running commands as root when you *know* that the command is designed to be run as root.07:13
tozenOerHeks: so here is no any options to get it double sized or triple for example?07:13
tdignanphunyguy_x1_: apt-get install pastebinit if you want to be able to easily pastebin stuff from the command line07:14
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: Please pastebin the output of "pstree -p".07:14
tdignanpstree -p |pastebinit :P07:14
talpur_Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1349912/  plz see the link I have problem to remove the packages07:14
crimsonmaneJordan_U: the objective was to run the program using default profile settings, ergo gksudo was in good recommendation07:14
phunyguy_x1_tdignan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349913/07:14
Jordan_Ucrimsonmane: No, it was not. Not even close.07:14
crimsonmanefor diagnostics, it most certainly was07:15
crimsonmaneplaying music while it's in gksudo perhaps would not be07:15
talpur_crimsonmane: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1349912/          see plz link purge not working to remove07:15
phunyguy_x1_Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349916/07:15
crimsonmanebut opening a program in that fashion is useful diagnostics07:15
Jordan_Ucrimsonmane: If you had recommended "gksudo -u some_other_unpriveleged_user" that would have been reasonable. Suggesting running an application like banshee as root was irresponsible, there is absolutely no question about it.07:16
crimsonmanetalpur_: the difference between purge and remove is purge will delete saved settings. you can also add the -f flag to --force the removal07:16
dougbbcrimsonmane: you're welcome to do whatever you want on your own box, but as a general recommendation in an open channel, it's a very bad idea07:16
crimsonmaneperhaps you both could spend some time reading the gksudo information. in a diagnostics approach my suggestion was fine.07:17
phunyguy_x1_whoa whoa whoa whoa07:17
phunyguy_x1_crimsonmane, even I know better07:17
phunyguy_x1_tisk tisk07:17
tdignanphunyguy_x1_: have you tried killall -9 banshee07:17
tdignanmaybe there are some other processes you missed07:18
phunyguy_x1_yup, no go07:18
phunyguy_x1_maybe I should just reboot07:18
talpur_crimsonmane: Yes I use that but the error is it couldn't locate the package and I am seeing it from ls that it is exited07:18
phunyguy_x1_but I am afraid it will keep happening07:18
dougbbphunyguy_x1_: probably want to consider a different player :)07:19
Jordan_Ucrimsonmane: I know exactly what gksudo does, and how it differs from plain sudo. That does not change the fact that it is not responsible to recommend running applications as root that were not designed to be run as root. If you'd like to continue this discussion please do so in #ubuntu-ops.07:19
aaasrrrrr "sound/core.h: No such file or directory" using 'make release' (musescore), no configure script, apt-file shows sound/core.h in header file.  /usr/src/linux/include (linux symbolic link to kernel headers the same as uname -a (except no -generic)) in path and ld_library_path, make clean and reestart make release still doesn't work..any ideas?07:19
tdignanphunyguy_x1_: try mv ~/.config/banshee-1 ~/backup-banshee07:19
tdignanthen restart banshee07:19
crimsonmanethat's alright Jordan_U. I'll let you Nazi's have the final word. it's how these places are run after all.07:20
tdignanrestart it from a terminal, so you can see any clues it might print07:20
phunyguy_x1_dougb I am trying to... thats why I tried banshee07:20
phunyguy_x1_rhythmbox just will not do at all (playing music from cifs shares in gvfs)07:20
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: kill 7282; kill 758407:20
phunyguy_x1_and I need ipod management as well07:20
fish47Hi everyone, I'm looking forward to find a hook script which will be run after the X started. By the way, xinitrc/xsession don't work at all. Thanks.07:21
phunyguy_x1_Jordan_U, nope07:21
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: If that doesn't do it, then "kill -9 7282; kill -9 7584".07:21
talpur_how I remove OpenJDK from my system07:22
phunyguy_x1_no go Jordan_U07:22
tdignanwhy,so you can make sure you're using the oracle jdk?07:22
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: Did you get any error message from either of those commands?07:22
phunyguy_x1_Jordan_U, nope.07:22
tdignanjust change JAVA_HOME and PATH in your ~/.bash_profile. There is no need to remove the openjdk when your system software might be depending on it.07:22
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: Can you pastebin the output of "pstree -p" again?07:23
phunyguy_x1_Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349935/07:24
tdignando other apps that play audio work?07:24
phunyguy_x1_tdignan, yes07:25
phunyguy_x1_my issue with rhythmbox is importing from the fuse-mounted cifs share is painfully slow07:26
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: I've never before seen a defunct process whose parent is init. That either indicates that something I'm not thinking about is going on, or something is terribly broken.07:27
phunyguy_x1_shouldnt be that time consuming to look at a few lines of metadata07:27
phunyguy_x1_Jordan_U, I hear ya07:27
phunyguy_x1_but yeah, with Rhythmbox I get import errors that are timeouts07:28
phunyguy_x1_it just takes too long07:28
phunyguy_x1_other apps pull in really fast but are missing features I need07:28
ghabitphunyguy_x1, I have some errors with rhytmbox too. Mostly on collection scanning.07:31
phunyguy_x1_ghabit, is your music stored on a share?07:31
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ghabitphunyguy_x1, no, it's on local ntfs partition.07:32
phunyguy_x1_is the ntfs partition mounted via fuse?07:32
phunyguy_x1_(gvfs)07:32
phunyguy_x1_see where I am going?07:33
Guest49256hi guys i am running 12.10 and i followed the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190 to install my canon lbp 2900 printer , but not working :( , any working guide available ?07:33
ghabitphunyguy_x1, sorry, I don't know how to answer your question. But I can give you /etc/fstab line, here it is: "/media/e was on /dev/sdb6 during installation07:34
ghabitUUID=6E6A8B816A8B4535 /media/e        ntfs    defaults,umask=002,gid=46 0"07:34
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: What made you think that it was defunct, rather than in an uninterruptible sleep (which is what 'D' in the process status means, 'Z' is defunct)?07:34
phunyguy_x1_Jordan_U, ps -axf | grep banshee listed it as <defunct>07:34
phunyguy_x1_ghabit nevermind then07:35
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: That really is bizarre.07:35
aaaswhy isn't my compile script aware of my headers in /usr/src/linux-header07:36
phunyguy_x1_Jordan_U, yer tellin me, lol07:36
dougbbaaas, probably lack of a -I07:36
phunyguy_x1_dougbb what do you use for music? (since you made that comment)07:37
aaasdougbb if I only have a makefile (no configure) using cmake any idea what I would modivy07:37
aaasmodify*07:37
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: We can try sending SIGCHLD to init to tell it to reap its children, but we really shouldn't need to do that (and I don't know if it will help).07:37
dougbbphunyguy_ whatever xubuntu uses when I click on a music file :)07:38
phunyguy_x1_Jordan_U, I will reboot in a bit07:38
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: But that's not as fun, we won't have solved the mystery :)07:38
dougbbaaas: no idea, I hate cmake :)07:38
phunyguy_x1_well then07:38
phunyguy_x1_lol07:38
dougbbphunyguy_ I've used rhythmbox in the past, it seemed ok07:39
lonewulf85Is there a way to set unity so it will start on the applications lens?07:39
dougbbI'm wondering if banshee is now suffering from the same symptom as your trial of rhythmbox did, and it's hung trying to close an fd07:39
ahmetselamlar07:40
ahmet:)07:40
phunyguy_x1_"close an fd"?07:40
T3T307:40
dougbbclose a file descriptor07:40
phunyguy_x1_ohh...07:40
Jordan_Udougbb: Then it wouldn't be defunct though.07:40
phunyguy_x1_maybe i can remount the shares07:40
phunyguy_x1_share*07:41
dougbbif the file system with your music is flaky, that could be what is causing the problem with both programs, but maybe banshee is handling it very poorly07:41
dougbbJordan_U: it definitely shouldn't be doing what it is doing now in any case :)07:41
phunyguy_x1_dougbb i dont think the filesystem is flaky, i think gvfs is flaky07:41
dougbbfrom the client perspective, same difference07:41
lonewulf85Is there a way to set unity so it will start on the applications lens? Please.07:41
phunyguy_x1_yup07:42
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: I can't be sure that this won't have a terrible system stopping side effect, but I don't think it will. Try running "sudo kill -s CHLD 1".07:42
phunyguy_x1_worst that happens... I have to reboot?07:42
phunyguy_x1_lol07:42
murlidharhello all i am not able to run the app gnome-media-player. can anyone help me run it successfully07:42
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: Yes.07:42
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: And lose all data in currently running applications.07:42
dougbbworst that happens with that is that the system comes to a screeching halt ... make sure you don't have anything open you care about07:42
murlidhargives some segmentation fault.07:42
phunyguy_x1_seems to have no effect Jordan_U07:43
phunyguy_x1_and no smoke from the side of the laptop07:43
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: Please pastebin the complete output of "ps aux".07:43
phunyguy_x1_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349958/07:44
murlidharthis is the error i get when i try to run gnome-media-player . http://pastebin.com/NUtx0vuF07:44
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: Please file a bug report against upstart. As far as I can tell, upstart really should have reaped this process.07:47
phunyguy_x1_oh boy07:47
phunyguy_x1_not sure I know how07:47
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: ubuntu-bug upstart07:47
phunyguy_x1_well I dont really know the issue07:48
lynnxe07:48
murlidharthis is the error i get when i try to run gnome-media-player . http://pastebin.com/NUtx0vuF07:48
phunyguy_x1_no-need to repost murlidhar07:49
phunyguy_x1_!patience murlidhar07:50
phunyguy_x1_!patience | murlidhar07:50
ubottumurlidhar: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:50
phunyguy_x1_fail07:50
phunyguy_x1_:P07:50
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1_: Say that "PID 1, upstart, failed to reap one of its children (banshee)" and include the output of "ps aux" and "pstree -p". And please subscribe me (JordanU on launchpad) to the report.07:50
murlidharphunyguy_x1_: i know . sorry about that  . i thought please missed it.07:50
phunyguy_x1_k07:50
murlidharthanks for reminding me though :)07:51
murlidharso here what you do ? take care of such people who make noise here ?07:51
murlidharah nevermind guys :) guess no one knows how to solve. take cares all . bye...07:53
phunyguy_x1_done Jordan_U07:55
phunyguy_x1_thanks for the assist07:55
phunyguy_x1_rebooting now07:55
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phunyguy_x1man this thing reboots fast =D07:56
phunyguy_x1(Lenovo X1 Carbon, i7, and SSD)07:56
tdignannice07:57
tdignani have a low-end laptop, but ubuntu boots about 20x faster than win7 anyway07:57
phunyguy_x1cool07:57
phunyguy_x1this belongs to my job07:58
phunyguy_x1i wish it was mine07:58
phunyguy_x1lol07:58
tdignanI will have to upgrade soon. I'm starting to get kinda wasteful with my browser tabs..07:58
tdignanI use this for work...07:58
tdignanunfortunately, lol07:58
phunyguy_x1lol I have a Microsoft Surface waiting for me on Monday too *vomit*07:58
tdignanmaybe a little ram will fix the issue, but I think the CPU is the bottleneck here07:58
phunyguy_x1may try to stick ubuntu on it07:58
tdignanoh, I'm sorry to hear that07:59
tdignanit might work as a coaster07:59
joe__hi07:59
Jordan_Uphunyguy_x1: Now I'm finding from #upstart that I was probably wrong it my assessment, so I might ask you to close that bug report :(07:59
pecockhe08:00
pecock!ot08:00
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:00
biohHello everyone. Is there any application or extension that allows adjust different channels volume (like a sound mixer in sound settings) right from toolbar?08:01
phunyguy_x1k08:01
joe__have an levono t61 with lubuntu. wlan not works. driver is iwlagn. Problem seems to be: iwconfig say: Power Management:off. how can i activate power management? any idea ?08:01
phunyguy_x1joe__,  Fn-F508:02
phunyguy_x1or whichever F-key the antenna is on08:03
whywati heard ubuntu no longer support 11.....08:03
joe__i test FN+F5  no reaction by computer, iwconfig say always power managemant off08:04
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auronandacewhywat: 11.10 is still supported08:11
joe__t61 :: wlan not work. any idea ?08:11
whywatreally ? why then I received a message saying otherwise08:12
auronandacewhywat: what are you talking about08:13
auronandace!topic | whywat08:13
ubottuwhywat: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:13
manulinuxhi08:14
joe__how i can activate power management set to on for the wlan ? FM+F not works. really Ubuntu 11.04 not supported here ?08:14
auronandacejoe__: 11.04 is no longer supported08:15
joe__is there a simple method to update ?08:15
auronandace!eol | joe__08:16
ubottujoe__: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades08:16
wifioregonAnyone know of a pdf editor for Ubuntu? Libreoffice seems pretty limited. Or maybe just a pdf to doc or docx convertor?08:16
joe__thx08:16
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thanigaihow can i run this command line (sudo hostapd hostapd.conf) when i insert wifi adaptor.08:23
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rinzlerhow do I list the video cards I have installed?08:27
PhaseAnyone know a decent free backup service I can automate pushing backups to via bash script?08:30
iqonehttp://fusionpower.110mb.com/08:32
rinzlerwhat is the best way to go about installing the correct drivers for my video card?08:38
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nydelPhase: can you just do a cronjob?08:50
Phasenydel: sure, but the issue is somewhere to put the files :)08:50
nydelPhase: ohh you need storage08:51
Phaseyeah08:51
nydelpm me & i'll give you a shell on my server08:51
nydeldig?08:51
nydelinfinity space & bandwidth08:51
Phaseinfinity space eh08:51
nydelwell i mean as much as you need i guess - i hope it's not like hundreds of gb08:52
Phasethanks for the offer, but I'd rather know the person08:52
Phasethink I'll just dump it to dropbox08:53
yesudeepHeya. I'm currently running Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro 17" 5.2 (has two graphics cards with Nvidia 9600GT active). I installed Ubuntu using the amd64+mac Ubuntu 12.10 image. I am able to boot into the system after quite a bit of effort, however, after I enabled the nvidia-current drivers, the login screen does not appear. I am dropped directly into the login shell, which I can use. How do I get Ubuntu to show the login shell?08:53
yesudeepAlso, Ubuntu has been set up to dual boot with Mac OS X Mountain Lion and I do have rEFInd installed to allow me to switch between the two operating systems.08:53
nydelPhase: hilarious. haha.08:53
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nydelyesudeep: you mean you boot & it automatically logs you in to unity?08:54
zgqhello08:54
Phasenydel: :P it's just some minecraft worlds, I've been backing it up manually to my home machine, still might do that, but just automated08:54
yesudeepnydel: When I boot the machine, it boots me to the login shell and then stops. Unity doesn't show up. Neither does the graphical login screen.08:55
PhaseDoes startx still work? haven't used a linux desktop in awhile08:55
nydelPhase: it's just funny because i just offered you a free host with unjailed shell / ssh, cpanel, a subdomain, sftp, & infinite storage/bandwidth but you don't want it because you're paranoid hehe, which is a good thing in a hacker, so applause.08:56
nydel( but not very much applause for not thinking "hmm if this guy /is/ trying to scam me, i can beat him." -- have more confidence! )08:57
Phaselol08:57
nydelyesudeep: a terminal?08:57
yesudeepnydel: yep08:58
yesudeepnydel: I'm using the terminal and connecting to IRC via Emacs at the moment.08:58
nydelyesudeep: did you try startx, as Phase suggested?08:58
yesudeepnydel: going to give that a shot. one sec.08:58
Phasenydel: I've got a friend I can ask for a some room on his dedi, I just figured I'd see what I could find before that :)08:58
yesudeepBack on another machine. brb.09:00
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nydelPhase: whatever you like. it's just funny from my end, i offer people free hosting every once in a while & they almost always reject it - it so happens that i'm like the most vigilantly ethical hacker i can be - so it's just so funny to me, like 'ya can't e'en give this stuff away!'09:00
nydelyesudeep: you could use screen09:00
nydelyesudeep: launch screen then ctrl-a-ctrl-c then ctrl-a-shift-S then ctrl-a-tab09:01
Phasenydel: Hah, I'm usually the one telling my friends to be careful with peoples offers of anything.. or read me in and I'll tell you my opinion09:01
yesudeepOk. got the error. "FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found." Followed by "no screens found."  "xinit: unable to connect to server: Connection refused."09:01
nydelPhase: have you got any ideas for yesudeep ?09:05
nydelbe right back need to restart irc client09:05
yesudeepHmm. Apparently, a workaround is documented here: http://blog.projectz.me/2012/10/21/setting-up-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-macbook-pro/09:05
Phaseyesudeep: Do you remember which nvidia package you chose?09:06
yesudeepPhase: nvidia-current09:07
Phasetry it and see if it helps09:07
yesudeepPhase: yep. doing that at the moment. :)09:09
yesudeepI'm actually happy I've been able to get Ubuntu running on my MBP after almost a year. It had stopped booting.09:10
yesudeepnydel: yep. i use tmux.09:10
Phasestill need to try tmux09:11
PhaseI've used screen for years09:11
yesudeepit's just as easy. the prefix key is C-b instead of C-a.09:11
nydelnot familiar with tmux yet09:12
yesudeephooray! that worked.09:12
yesudeep:)09:12
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nydelyesudeep: yay!!! :)09:13
Phaseyesudeep: Awesome09:13
nydelway to go Phase09:13
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Phaseyesudeep actually found it themself :P09:13
yesudeepthis is awesome. thank you guys, nydel and Phase :)09:15
Phaseglad you got it working :)09:16
nydelyesudeep: yw. thanks for telling me about tmux, i'm having a ball09:16
Phasehttp://willwarren.com/docs/swiftapi/latest/SwiftApi.html09:17
Phasefound something to keep me occupied for a bit09:17
nydelwow tmux is so cool.09:20
yesudeepnydel: if you spend quite a bit of time using the Terminal, you might like bash-ido as well. :)09:21
yesudeepnydel: it completes file paths using the emacs-style "ido-mode". way faster than using just bash-completion.09:21
nydelthat sounds great & like /exactly/ what i need for something right now09:22
theadminyesudeep: If you spend quite a bit of time using the Terminal, you'll find yourself using the Z Shell sooner or later :P09:22
yesudeeptheadmin: haha. i'm happy with bash. :p09:23
nydeli just found the source09:23
nydeltheadmin: is that so!?09:23
theadminnydel: Well, I find zsh more powerful09:23
portatilehallo09:23
PhaseIn what ways?09:23
nydelwhat do you think of lush?09:23
portatilebluray09:23
PhaseThe only way I interact with linux these days is a terminal (bash shell)09:23
portatilelist09:23
yesudeepgit has actually changed my life. just pull the same configuration over to another machine and i'm all set within minutes.09:25
yesudeeptons of time saved09:26
blackshirtyesudeep, great ways to improve09:27
theadminyesudeep: Why not Bazaar? Just wondering, I find Git difficult to use, and Bazaar integrates with Ubuntu services better09:27
yesudeeptheadmin: no particular reason. i'm just used to git. :)09:27
theadminyesudeep: Mind pm? Want to ask about how you set stuff up09:28
yesudeeptheadmin: plus, the vim Vundle package manager I use clones Vim plugins from github using git. so that kinda helps set up both vim and emacs on all my machines within seconds for example.09:28
blackshirtgit was greats ... Its developed by world famous class kernel hacker09:29
yesudeeptheadmin: http://github.com/gorakhargosh/dotfiles.git <-- vim and general bash configuration.09:29
yesudeeptheadmin: http://github.com/gorakhargosh/gemacs.git <-- emacs configuration. pretty simple really. :)09:29
theadminyesudeep: Nah not that, I mean uh, do you use git on your entire home directory or something?09:30
yesudeeptheadmin: nope. not that. we have NFS at work for our home directories. they're automatically backed up.09:30
theadminyesudeep: Ah, okay09:30
blackshirtis it possible to switch entirely from ubuntu to other debian based distro ?09:32
theadminblackshirt: Well, yes, by reinstalling...09:33
theadminOther than that no09:33
rymate1234well09:33
rymate1234youcan switch to other 'buntus09:33
moteHelp. please. -I'm trying to view my system log with the build in "System Log", but hen i click it in the Dash it does not start. -Why? (Quantal)09:33
ActionParsnipor install another DE then log off and log in to the new DE09:34
blackshirttheadmin, not that ways ... I mean do it with system preinstalled09:34
ActionParsnipmote: try running the app from terminal, the output may give clues09:34
yesudeepubuntu has come a long way. as a returning user, i'm finding it to be more polished now. :)09:34
rymate1234blackshirt, why would you want to09:34
moteActionParsnip: whats the command, do you know?09:34
theadminblackshirt: No, you'd break everything09:35
blackshirtactionparsnip, that not a matter i mean ...09:35
ActionParsnipmote: if you grep for 'Exec' in the file in /usr/sahre/applications which runs the command, it will tell you09:35
blackshirttheadmin, thats not greats09:35
ActionParsnipmote: what is the name of the app you run:09:36
rymate1234blackshirt, why would you want to switch to another debian based distro09:36
blackshirttheadmin, i have successfully switched my debian to other distro...09:36
blackshirtExactly the other debbian based distros09:36
moteActionParsnip: found it, gnome-system-log. it starts from command line??  But thanks. it was a good idea09:36
blackshirtrymate1234, just want to know if apt was greats :)09:37
ActionParsnipmote: grep system-log /usr/share/applications/* | grep Exec09:37
ActionParsnipmote: should tell you the command09:37
ActionParsnipmote: you get the idea :)09:37
moteYes. Thanks yu09:37
rymate1234olo09:37
ActionParsnipblackshirt: it's alreet, try apt-fast :)09:37
moteActionParsnip: Yes thank you. have a googd sunday..09:38
blackshirttheadmin, i think you're right..ubuntu was made a big changes/hooks to the apt/standard packages core ...09:38
ActionParsnipmote: yeah, working 12 hours. Great :(09:38
moteActionParsnip: argh. man, sorry to hear. got a watch somewhere?09:38
ActionParsnipmote: if you run the command in terminal. If it crashes, you should get output in the terminal which should give clues09:38
ActionParsnipmote: yeah its 0939 here09:39
blackshirtactionparsnip, why i should go stick with apt-fast ?09:39
moteActionParsnip: i'm the sunday morning table with. oh. i'm at 10:3909:39
moteyou are in UK?09:39
ActionParsnipblackshirt: because it downloads using multiple sources via axel. Its like http download vs torrent09:39
moteActionParsnip: You are in Uk. -DK here.09:39
ActionParsnipmote: UK all the way09:39
moteActionParsnip: Well gtg. cu later. ;-)09:40
ActionParsnipblackshirt: I always advise it to those using CLI to install apps09:40
blackshirtactionparsnip, i think that was not my case guys09:40
exalthello, in which logbook in /var/log are username changes logged ?09:40
Nastyahi all09:41
blackshirtactionparnsip, yes, i always relies on apt / cli to install and uninstall something09:41
AminosAmigosHello why webapps were not ported Officially to 12.04  :(09:41
theadminAminosAmigos: They were, sudo apt-get install fogger09:42
Nastyahttp://vk.com/id18904329409:42
chris_Hi guys, can someone tell me how to remove only one package from the system, not all included in ubuntu-desktop? I think it's something related with meta packages but can't understant it. Where I can find the meta package for Ubuntu and remove it? Thanks in advance :]09:43
rinzlerI am installing a second video card and it isn't displying anything through it, but in Arandr it displays the old working card as [interface]-2 and the new card (that I assume would be labeled [interface]-1) is non existent. any ideas on how to get the new card working?09:44
blackshirttheadmin, actionparsnip,i think it was greats if you can switch ubuntu to other debian based distros easily ...09:44
theadminblackshirt: No, it'd be just crazy.09:44
ariel1234Hi. Yesterday I was advised to install Wicd instead of default network manager. It worked for the rest of the day, but now it does not work09:45
blackshirttheadmin, for some perspectives yes, but from others it was good .d .. It was just an idea09:46
* Nastya http://vk.com/id189043294 - it's me join me)09:46
ActionParsnipchris_: you can remove metapackages, it does nothing09:46
ariel1234at first the internet never worked, yesterday when i installed Wicd it worked for the rest of the day perfectly, now its useless, does not work at all09:46
ariel1234just gives an error message09:46
ActionParsnipblackshirt: it will always take a reinstall to be sure of a stable OS09:46
ActionParsnipariel1234: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?09:46
blackshirttheadmin, they all share the same barebones from apt system09:46
ariel1234what do i enter in to the command line?09:47
theadminblackshirt: No, they do not.09:47
theadminblackshirt: Ubuntu uses it's own packages, patches, repositories, everything is different. Package names would differ too.09:47
ariel1234what do i enter into command line to ping 8.8.8.8 as actionparsnip said?09:47
blackshirttheadmin, yes,we know ... Ubuntu make differgences so far with others .d09:47
theadminariel1234: ping 8.8.8.809:48
ActionParsnipariel1234: ping 8.8.8.809:48
ActionParsnipariel1234: its the same in ALL OSes09:48
ariel1234i entered in ping 8.8.8.8 and it said network unreachable09:48
ActionParsnipariel1234: do you get replies, or is the network unreachable?09:48
ActionParsnipariel1234: ok, press CTRL+C to kill it09:48
ariel1234it said 'connect: Network is Unreachable'09:48
theadminariel1234: Is the Wicd daemon started? "sudo start wicd"09:49
ariel1234it said exactly what i have written in inverted commas09:49
ActionParsnipariel1234: if you run:  sudo dhclient3 wlan0     do you get an IP via DHCP?09:49
ariel1234yes, i have the actual wicd program open, but it does not connect09:50
rinzlerI am installing a second video card and nothing is being displayed through it, but in Arandr it displays the old working card as [interface]-2 and the new card (that I assume would be labeled [interface]-1) is non existent. Any ideas on how to get the new card working correctly?09:50
ActionParsnipariel1234: if you run:  sudo rfkill list      are there any blocks?09:50
theadminariel1234: No, not the graphical interface, the service. Run "sudo start wicd".09:50
ActionParsnipariel1234: do you dual boot the system?09:50
ariel1234no, it says absolutely no blocks09:51
ariel1234it is a dual boot system with windows 709:51
ActionParsnipariel1234: in Windows, have you set the adapter to not be able to wake up the systsem in Device Manager09:51
ActionParsnipariel1234: also, did you disable power management on the device in Device Manager too09:52
ariel1234i dont know but it is a desktop computer i am talking about09:52
ariel1234and because the internet is not working on that i am using my lubuntu laptop to message you09:52
ActionParsnipariel1234: fine...did you disable what I said earlier....09:52
ariel1234disable what? sorry09:53
ActionParsnipariel1234: read about 5 lines up...09:53
ariel1234disable power management in windows09:53
ActionParsnipariel1234: i'm not typing all that out agaijn, use your eyes09:53
ActionParsnipariel1234: and the wake up09:53
ariel1234yes i am booting into windows now09:53
demonboyi have a wireless issue as well lol i have a wmp11 linksys PCI card and ubuntu 12.10... when i run #rfkill list all i get no feed back what so ever, and i have had issues w/ backtrack with this card but #rfkill unblock all generally works because backtrack has a hardware and software block on it for some odd reason09:54
ariel1234do you want me to follow this ' in Windows, have you set the adapter to not be able to wake up the systsem in Device Manager'09:54
ActionParsnipariel1234: yes, it can affect dual boot systems because windows can 'hold' the wireless device. very annoying09:54
ariel1234ok gosh09:54
ariel1234would that explain why internet only sometimes worked when i used network manager not wicd09:55
ActionParsnipdemonboy: backtrack isn't supported here. Try #backtrack-linux09:55
rinzlerany ideas on my dual video card issue?09:55
ActionParsnipariel1234: I find wicd a bit more flexible with interface names and so forth09:55
demonboyaction i am on 12.10 ubuntu i was mearly refrencing backtrack as i run tht off my usb drive09:55
ariel1234i understand09:55
ariel1234and yesterday as i didn't use windows it was until the evening, then linux in the morning09:55
ariel1234where is device manager in windows09:56
ActionParsnipdemonboy: can you run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo rfkill list     and pastebin the output please. Thanks09:56
ActionParsnipariel1234: right click my computer -> manage09:56
demonboyno... it has no connection but when i run tht command it sees it and uses the broadcom driver i ran tht to see if it atleast recognized the card09:57
ariel1234i am doing as you say09:57
ariel1234i have got computer management open in windows seven, what do i do now09:58
ActionParsnipariel1234: device manager is in that list09:59
ariel1234ive got device manager open and opened the properties window for my TPLINK wireless card10:00
demonboy@action i will manually type the output of that command10:00
demonboyin a pastebin link tht is10:00
ActionParsnipdemonboy: do you not have a USB stick etc?10:01
ActionParsnipariel1234: right click it and hit properties10:01
Calinouis it safe to create a new partition table on a medion computer, removing the recovery/OEM partitions if I do not want to dualboot?10:01
ariel1234what do i do, actionparsnip, i have the properties winow open for it10:01
demonboyyes i do10:01
ActionParsnipCalinou: I suggest you make the DVDs from the restore partition, just in case10:01
Calinouno blank DVDs around10:01
ActionParsnipdemonboy: why not copy the text to a file, then transfer the file to a system with web access and pastebin that10:02
ActionParsnipCalinou: your call then dude, you sound like you understand what is going to happen10:02
SeveasCalinou, if you don't want those recovery partitions anymore, you can do whatever you want with them. Including "removing" them by creating a new partition table10:02
Calinoueven if i did a DVD from restore partition, this doesn't mean I'd be able to reinstall windows if everything went wrong10:02
demonboybecause the usb is currently housing the 12.10 instance im currently running on another computer10:03
Calinouthe recovery dvds do not let you do that10:03
Calinou(no windows install DVD as usual -- cheap computer manufacturers ahoy)10:03
ActionParsnipCalinou: thats what they make, instead of cluttering up the system you can make DVDs10:03
ActionParsnipdemonboy: or take a screenshot with a phone and use that :)10:04
ariel1234ActionParsnip I have network manager open10:04
demonboythat works10:04
ActionParsnipariel1234: its not network manager10:04
Calinouhow many DVDs are required, usually?10:04
ActionParsnipdemonboy: thinking outside the box gets you ahead in life10:04
hadHi @all10:04
ariel1234actionparsnip sorry i mean i have 'TP-LINK Wireless N adapter #3 Properties' open10:05
ActionParsnipariel1234: http://www.mochasoft.dk/images/wol2.png10:05
ActionParsnipCalinou: it varys, I'd guess at 310:05
ariel1234ActionParsnip I have that exact thing open10:05
ActionParsnipariel1234: ok untick wake up pc and power management10:06
Calinouok. i run into two other issues when using the live cd: it looks like i can't install the proprietary nvidia driver (no option to do so in software sources/additional drivers), and an high-pitched sound constantly plays unless i'm moving mouse10:06
Calinou(the latter doesn't happen on windows)10:06
ariel1234ActionParsnip the option ' Allow this device to wake the computer' is grey, and does not  look like it can be selected.10:07
ariel1234ActionParsnip This is a desktop computer i am talking about.10:07
ariel1234ActionParsnip should i unselect the option 'allow the computer to turn off this device to save power10:08
hadI have an interesting problem with my wireless keyboard (logitech).10:08
hadSometimes it seems not to work anymore, but this is only partially. (AudioControll work, Ctrl+Alt+Del  also works)10:08
hadCan somone help me where to look for the problem?10:08
ActionParsnipariel1234: the fact it is a desktop PC is irrelevant10:09
ActionParsnipariel1234: yes disable the ability to turn of the device too.10:10
ActionParsniphad: are the batteries ok?10:10
hadyes10:10
ariel1234ActionParsnip: The option 'allow this device to wake the computer' is in grey and is not clickable10:10
hadsry i forgot if i unplug and reconnect the usb-token its works again10:11
ActionParsniphad: if you unload then reload the driver module, does it work without unplugging?10:11
ariel1234ActionParsnip: Shall i restart the computer now?10:12
hadhow can i do that if i have no keyboard plugged in ?10:12
demonboy@action http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/554253_4883473808815_230895210_n.jpg10:12
ariel1234shall i go back to ubuntu and will it work?10:12
ActionParsnipariel1234: yes, try Ubuntu now. Should help10:12
ActionParsnipariel1234: patience dude...sheesh10:13
ariel1234sorry10:13
ActionParsnip!broadcom | demonboy10:13
ubottudemonboy: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx10:13
wlosioHey guys, how to record sound from two sources??  from TS3 (what my friends talking) and Micro?? at this same time?10:13
wlosioIts possible?!10:14
ActionParsniphad: make it work, then start investigating10:14
hadyou mean get an normal keyboard additionally?10:15
hadhow can i find out which driver is for my keyboard?10:15
hadinput: Logitech USB Receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb8/8-1/8-1:1.1/input/input710:15
ariel1234ActionParsnip; In ubuntu default network manager it used to say ' Device busy' did that mean it was being held by windows10:15
andreas@wlosio: not sure, but in Win it was possible, if you set the "Stereo Mix" in10:15
hadgeneric-usb 0003:046D:C529.0006: input,hiddev0,hidraw3: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1/input110:15
andreas@wlosio: set the "Stereo Mix" as Input, I mean10:16
demonboy@action the command #lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4  returns no results10:16
ActionParsniphad: if you run:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsmod       pastebin the output please10:16
wlosioandreas, im know dat in Windows XP its possible, but Windows XP is too old... im preffer use Xubuntu :)10:16
ActionParsnipdemonboy: is the system a laptop?10:16
demonboyno its a desktop10:17
andreasyes, me too, but I'm not sure if there's such a feature in Ubuntu as well ... just a thought :)10:17
ariel1234ActionParsnip: Will this be a perminant fix, the option you told me to change10:17
ActionParsnipdemonboy: you can use the packages on the install CD to setup the wifi. Those cheap broadcoms are super easy to setup10:17
ActionParsnipariel1234: should be, as long as youi don't change it back10:17
ariel1234good10:17
ActionParsnipariel1234: is it ok nnow?10:17
hadok i have helped me with an onscreen keyboard10:17
demonboyi have a live usb i dont use cd's10:18
ariel1234it works now, i dont know whether it will work later10:18
demonboyand im running it live w/ a 4gb persistance10:18
ActionParsnipariel1234: thought so, your junk Windows OS was causing the issue10:18
ActionParsnipdemonboy: same difference, you can still enable the install media as a package source10:18
ActionParsnipariel1234: its why its the first thing I ask10:19
demonboyhow would i do this?10:19
ActionParsnipdemonboy: use software centre, or uncomment the top line in /etc/apt/sources.list that relates to the CD10:20
demonboymmk10:20
had@ActionParsnip: Thx, I will try to find out which driver i need to reload. Than wait till it happens again, reload the driver and see if it helps. And then i will come back here ok?10:20
ActionParsniphad: if you can pastebin the text, I can advise..10:21
ariel1234ActionParsnip: Now we have found out that it is not a drivers problem, but a windows dualboot problem, shall i remove Wicd10:21
hadpastebin? sry not native en-speaker10:21
ActionParsnipariel1234: if wicd is working, why bother10:22
ActionParsniphad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10:22
ariel1234no, default network manager is working, so should i remove wicd10:22
hadTHX10:22
ActionParsniphad: put the text there and hit paste, when the page changes, copy the new URL in the address bar and paste that in here10:22
ActionParsnipariel1234: if it's not in use, why not10:23
ariel1234ok thanks for your help10:23
ssasorinyone here know an easy to follow tutorial on setting up a webcam on my home pc, to be streaming video, and accesible via webpage???10:25
Calinoui run into two other issues when using the live cd: it looks like i can't install the proprietary nvidia driver (no option to do so in software sources/additional drivers), and an high-pitched sound constantly plays unless i'm moving mouse (the sound issue doesn't happen on windows)10:26
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Guest23590Help, ubuntu cant find my wireless network card on a macbook from 2008.10:27
ActionParsnipssasori: http://www.junauza.com/2009/07/turn-ordinary-webcam-into-security-spy.html10:28
ActionParsnipGuest23590: what wifi chip are you using?10:28
llutzssasori: http://www.area536.com/projects/streaming-video/10:28
had@ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350193/10:28
hadis that ok for u?10:29
ActionParsniphad: run:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsmod      pastebin the output please10:29
Guest23590ActionParnsip> I dont know. How do i see that_10:29
hadok10:29
ActionParsnipGuest23590: run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a      pastebin the output please http://paste.ubuntu.com10:30
hadhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1350196/10:31
beta4hi10:32
nikolamHi,, I have this message when starting Ubuntu-minimal in Virtualbox: error:sparse file not allowed. press any cay to continue.  It is Btrf file system installed.10:33
ActionParsniphad: try:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local     above the 'exit 0' line add:    modprobe -r bluetooth; sleep 2; modprobe bluetooth      save the new file and reboot to test10:33
nikolamafter few seconds system boots10:33
ssasoriActionParsnip: llutz: Thanks guys!  going to go try it out now.10:33
ActionParsnipnikolam: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?10:34
beta4tried to install latest 304.64 nvidia drivers, and now I'm stuck at 1024x768 without graphic acceleration, can someone help me?10:35
nikolamActionParsnip, I think so. will re-check10:35
ActionParsniphad: you can try commands like that in the file, see which it needs. It may need 2 or 3 unloading then reloading10:35
ActionParsnipbeta4: tried:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot10:36
MortuHi, regardint Empathy Internet messaging .. is there any way that in my Buddy list I can see them by their nicknames and not by their id? // without editing them one by one of course. Thx10:36
hadActionParsnip: i dont think this will help, because the keyboard is not using bluetooth10:36
beta4already tried, it generated an xorg.conf with something (previous one was empty), reboot and... stuck at 640x480, even worse. Replaced xorg.conf with an empty one, now I'm back @ 1024x76810:37
ActionParsniphad: does it use it's own reciever?10:37
beta4in any case lsmod only shows vesafb, non nvidia module10:38
hadyes but its a wireless 2.4 technologie10:38
ActionParsniphad: try: rfcomm   then10:38
ActionParsnipbeta4: then roll back to the previous driver if they worked10:38
hadActionParsnip: rfcomm does not output anything10:39
beta4previous drivers were open drivers, not good for steam on ubuntu, could only do some 3d desktop effects and nothing more10:39
ActionParsniphad: its not meant to....think about it10:39
ActionParsniphad: what I suggested before...then read your own pastebin....10:39
beta4any idea why nvidia module fails to load? P.S: I've installed the drivers via the ubuntu-x ppa10:40
hadbluetooth             180104  10 rfcomm,bnep10:40
hadyou mean that?10:40
ActionParsniphad: yes, its a kernel module, not a command10:41
demonboyaction are you still here?10:42
hadk, but that should i do now? sry if i dont understand10:42
llutzActionParsnip: rfcomm is a module AND name of a program10:43
administratorni s10:43
llutzActionParsnip: rfcomm (1)           - RFCOMM configuration utility10:43
administratorw s10:43
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beta4may it be related to this error:10:44
beta4$ sudo insmod nvidia_current10:44
beta4insmod: can't read 'nvidia_current': No such file or directory10:44
ActionParsnipllutz: gotcha10:45
ActionParsniphad: scroll up where I recommended adding to /etc/rc.local10:45
ActionParsniphad: same line, different module name10:46
hadcan u send it again plz, sry i clear it accidentially10:47
ActionParsnipbeta4: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia; apt-cache policy nvidia-current10:47
astropirateCan I create a swap partition after I have installed my OS?10:47
astropiratewithout losign data10:47
demonboyi went to install ubuntu to my hdd on the desktop so i can y=use my usb as a thumb drive and transfer packages and now im looking at a black screen w/ a bunch of info on it the last line reads: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A10:47
nikolamActionParsnip, debsums -acls gives 2 changed packages: binutils and g++ you think that will be enough for installed files verification?10:48
Guest23590ActionParsnip: This i got> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350233/10:48
ActionParsnipGuest23590: that's not all of the output of the command10:49
beta4http://pastebin.com/fnqYQETW10:49
ActionParsnipbeta4: I suggest you contact the PPA maintainers to let them know of the issue10:49
ActionParsnipnikolam: then the image is bad. you wil need to redownlod it, then re-MD5 test10:50
hadActionParsnip: can u plz write me again what i should do (adding to rc.local), because i cleared the window accidentally10:51
beta4ok, thanks for the help10:51
Guest23590ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350244/10:51
ActionParsnipGuest23590: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx10:52
ActionParsniphad: try:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local     above the 'exit 0' line add:    modprobe -r bluetooth; sleep 2; modprobe bluetooth      save the new file and reboot to test10:53
ActionParsniphad: just change the module name in the line10:53
beta4wait: something happened: did 'sudo modprobe nvidia_current', logged out, logged back in and now nvidia drivers work!10:54
Guest23590ActionParsnip: Thanks10:54
hadsry for my english i dont have the statement in my history i accidentally deleted it. Can you resend it?10:54
beta4full resolution again, glxgears ok10:54
beta4so it's just that the module does not get loaded at startup10:54
ActionParsniphad: which statement? I just gave you the instruction again?10:55
beta4is there a file or something to tell the kernel the list of modules to load @ boot?10:55
hadoh sry i did not see it10:55
hadthx10:55
ActionParsnipbeta4: could try putting the module name in /etc/modules10:55
hadTHX a lot for ur help10:55
ActionParsniphad: you'll be messing with that til it works well.10:55
beta4tryin' to reboot10:56
hsnmckhello, I need a tool to do all sort of conversions in the command line, like from ascii to binary, from decimal to binary etc.. and vise-versa. any idea? thanks10:56
nikolamActionParsnip, would not that mean something just changed installed package after install? and reinstalling it restores original package contents (is not also package contents default setting for a package?) I have a bunch packages on another machine listed with debsum -acls and I don't believe they are all broken)10:57
ActionParsnipnikolam: is this in the minimal ISO?10:57
nikolamActionParsnip, it is minimal and already installed in VBox with addons10:57
nikolamAnd another machine is alternate install on bare metal10:58
ActionParsnipnikolam: i see10:58
ActionParsnipnikolam: is it fully updated10:58
nikolamyup. message in vbox machine appears , stays and boot then ok10:58
ActionParsniphsnmck: run: ascii2binary    is anything output?10:58
ActionParsnipnikolam: try the boot option:  nomodeset10:58
nikolamActionParsnip, will try10:59
hsnmckActionParsnip, it says in the man page that it Convert ASCII numbers to binary.. so it's only ascii numbers and not ascii letters :(11:00
ActionParsnipnikolam: it always helps with weird video chips11:00
hsnmckActionParsnip, oh binary2ascii does that. thanks :)11:01
nikolamActionParsnip, it is virtualbox with vbox addons installed11:01
beta4rebooted, drivers 'almost' work, thanks for the tip on /etc/modules, always forget which file does what11:01
ActionParsniphsnmck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735140   some bash commands there, surprised you don't just use web stuff to do it11:02
beta4last issue, brightness is stuck at 100%, can't reduce it11:02
bekksnikolam: You may ask in #vbox too.11:02
ActionParsnipbeta4: does the system have a make and model?11:02
Calinoubeta4: echo "0" > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness11:02
almoxarifei have a file containing for each line a web-address, i want to add to each line prior to the web-address '127.0.0.1' followed by a fewspaces, how can i do this?11:02
beta4it's an old  macbookpro11:03
Calinou(you need admin/root to do so, might want to put that in a script, then run it with sudo)11:03
nikolambekks, yes, they helped me removing apready-installed ubuntu-provided vbox addons that instaleld automatically during install11:03
ActionParsnipbeta4: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo dmidecode -t 111:03
Calinouor, you can do this: echo 0 > ~/brightness && cp ~/brightness /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness11:03
ActionParsnipCalinou: or:  echo "0" | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness11:03
ActionParsnipCalinou: much cleaner11:03
beta4http://pastebin.com/tqVatBRB11:04
ActionParsnipbeta4: so it's a MacBookPro4,111:05
beta4echo "1" > /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness11:05
beta4works11:05
beta4so it's not a kernel issue11:06
ActionParsnipbeta4: bit more detailed than 'old macbook' wouldn't you say?11:06
beta4sorry, had to be more detailed, you're right11:06
beta4anyway I think it's funny, changing the drivers from the open to the closed nvidia ones broke the userspace brightness control11:07
ActionParsnipbeta4: does the echo command make everything ok?11:07
beta4yes, all ok11:07
Calinou(irrelevant to discussion) back to my medion problems -- if I just want to install ubuntu on the whole drive, will the computer still boot? not really caring about warranty or windows...11:08
ActionParsnipbeta4: then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local    above the 'exit 0' line, add: echo "1" > /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness11:08
beta4I can live with a shell script to set the brightness in the absence of a better way11:08
ActionParsnipCalinou: yes, the installer will add grub to the MBR11:08
Calinoubeta4: you can edit /etc/rc.local, yes11:08
ActionParsnipCalinou: why would it not boot?11:08
CalinouActionParsnip: since this is an UEFI computer should I make an UEFI partition? (i'm going to partition by hand to have separate /home)11:08
beta4ok, guess I'll do that11:08
ActionParsnip!uefi11:08
ActionParsnip!efi11:08
ActionParsnipCalinou: i've not used uefi etc11:09
Calinouthe wiki has some info about uefi11:09
beta4thanks all, finally I'm back with decently fast video drivers, after ~6 months with open ones11:09
ActionParsnipCalinou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting   may help11:09
jeffrobertsThat last Ubuntu update messed up all my stuff. Made everything default settings.11:10
bekksjeffroberts: Which is quite impossible...11:11
CalinouActionParsnip: is it possible to create a GPT partition table on a disk that is currently using msdos partition table?11:11
jeffrobertsbekks, Maybe improbable, because it did.11:11
mohanmcgeekguys, I need a good text-to-speech reader.11:11
ActionParsnipmohanmcgeek: gnome-orca11:11
ActionParsnipCalinou: not sure, sorry11:12
bekksjeffroberts: So whats "the last update" and whats "all my stuff"?11:12
Calinouok. thanks for answering11:12
ActionParsnipCalinou: maybe others can help11:13
jeffrobertsbekks, Startup programs, wallpaper, repositories, docked icons, etc.11:13
jeffrobertsbekks, Even terminal changed the profile colors.11:13
mohanmcgeekActionParsnip: No, not a screen reader. but a software that will take a text input and read it out.11:13
ActionParsnipmohanmcgeek: espeak does that too11:14
ActionParsnipmohanmcgeek: or try festival11:14
dingdangdong!log11:17
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/11:17
beta4bye11:18
Data-Basehi11:18
dingdangdongwhat happened to " http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ " ?11:21
dingdangdong can't open http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/11:23
ActionParsnipdingdangdong: try http://www.irclog.org/network.php?net=freenode11:25
Star_Lighthello is there any room about TCP/IP or Socket Networking? Thank in advance.11:26
ActionParsnipStar_Light: ##networking11:26
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Star_Lightthank you.11:26
Cache_MoneyHas anyone received a private message from the user Chaterz?11:28
dingdangdongActionParsnip: looking for the logs for #ubuntu-ir :-/11:31
eltigrehey, I know multimedia isn't exactly ubuntu's strengths, but can somebody help me fix this damn "clicking sound" bug? All the old fixes don't work anymore in 12.1011:32
ActionParsnipdingdangdong: could always ask in #freenode :)11:33
ActionParsnipeltigre: multimedia is flawless here11:33
eltigregood for you11:33
k1leltigre: what is the clickingsound bug?11:33
ActionParsnipeltigre: tried disabling power saving on your sound module?11:33
ActionParsnipeltigre: where do you get that multimedia isn't one of ubuntu's strengths?11:33
eltigreI've got no idea what power saving on my sound module is supposed to mean or how to deactivate it11:34
hadAchActionParsnip: Hi du you remember me (wireless keyboard). added the line in the rc.local. the keyboard still has the same behavior11:34
eltigrewhen I watch videos on youtube it clicks all the time11:34
eltigremplayer no such problem11:34
ActionParsnipeltigre: tried:    echo "options snd-hda-intel power_save=0 power_save_controller=N" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null11:35
ActionParsnipeltigre: reboot to test#11:35
ActionParsniphadAch: then you'll need to try a different module. Are there any bugs reported?11:35
ActionParsnipeltigre: have you tried different browsers?11:35
hadAchActionParsnip: whats more strange is that even the onscreen keyboard does not work , and even stranger in the sidebar i can open programs wich are shown there, but not the "Dash Home"11:36
eltigrehm one version of chrome has the same problem, chromium doesn't ....11:37
hadAchi think its somehow connected to flash movies in the browser because it only occurs when i am look some flash movie11:37
hadAchchrome/firefox is the same11:37
smjI don't have any Internet when chrooting to my Ubuntu11:37
smjthough ifconfig shows there's an IP11:38
Jordan_Usmj: cp /etc/resolv.conf /chroot/etc/resolve.conf11:38
smjJordan_U: did that11:39
mohanmcgeeki've installed espeak and few mbrola voices.. but none are good enough.. Maybe I'm not trying the right source.. Where  can I get good mbrola voices?11:39
smjno, wait let me try again11:39
hadAchActionParsnip: "hadAch: then you'll need to try a different module. Are there any bugs reported?" i dont think so11:40
dingdangdongActionParsnip: ah sure, thanks :)11:41
smjokay it works now11:42
ActionParsniphadAch: I suggest you report a bug then11:42
hadAchfor what?11:43
hadAchfor the kernel module?11:43
hadAchi dont think its a kernel module because i used archlinux for a long time and other linux distrubution and never hab a problem11:44
ActionParsniphadAch: then I'd report a bug against udev11:45
ActionParsniphadAch: the bug guys will move it if necessary, state that arch ran it ok (and what version of Arch)11:45
hadAchok11:47
hadAchcan i look for additional information in some logs11:48
hadAchor enable additional logging for udev11:48
hadAch?11:48
ActionParsniphadAch: could run:  dmesg | less     to see what happens as the OS boots11:48
anton77hello11:59
anton77how to change user name in terminal?12:00
jribanton77: it's easier if you just create a new user with the name you want12:00
ActionParsniplots easier12:01
JMS32 Hello! My videocard working only after @sudo modprobe -v bttv card=177  tuner=-1 autoload=0@ How to make it works after every boot?12:01
anton77thx ant how to delete first name12:01
anton77?12:01
ActionParsniphttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228239/Child-4-suffering-cerebral-palsy-given-500-stranger-stricken-chain-Comet-refuses-gift-card-iPad.html12:01
ActionParsnipoops12:01
jribanton77: make sure you give the new user the abilitiy to sudo before you delete the old on12:01
jribe12:01
anton77how to do it12:02
MaximBany idea when thew newest Nvidia drivers will be officially updated on Ubuntu ?12:02
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82168512:02
jribanton77: as your old user, do: sudo adduser NEWUSERNAME sudo12:02
ActionParsniphttp://askubuntu.com/questions/170244/usermod-change-the-username12:02
anton77create administrator user?12:03
ActionParsniphttp://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username12:03
JMS32How to make modprobe on every boot?12:03
ActionParsnipJMS32: add the module name in /etc/modules12:03
anton77thx i am trying12:03
JMS32ActionParsnip, and how to put modprobe parameters?12:04
JMS32ActionParsnip, this module exist. I'm need parameters for it12:04
anton77it is strange why when i write certain commands it takes alot of time before it executes?12:06
gordonjcpanton77: depends what the command does12:06
gordonjcpit probably executes straight away but takes a certain amount of time to complete12:07
gordonjcpcan you pastebin some examples?12:07
gordonjcpincidentally if you say "time <command>" it will measure how long it takes to do the command12:07
anton77the example you just wrote12:08
anton77edit also12:08
anton77some never execute for example edit /etc/default/locale12:09
icerootanton77: because the EDITOR is not set?12:10
anton77sec i try12:10
anton77do you mean not installed?12:11
bonhoefferhow do i figure out my hardware? (ram, processor speed, etc?)12:13
serbanhi12:14
defektbonhoeffer: lshw12:14
bonhoefferthanks12:14
defektand cat /proc/cpuinfo12:15
MasterOfDisasterHi, I'd like to query another dns server for a certain domain, say .local. I'd like to leave my dns client config intact as much as possible12:16
bonhoefferdefekt, perfect, exactly what i needed12:16
MasterOfDisastercan I do this with just resolv.conf, or do I need a full fledged local dns server for that?12:17
defektMasterOfDisaster: edit /etc/hosts file12:17
MasterOfDisasterdefekt: the dns server that has the info I want is reachable on my local network, I don't want to keep an /etc/hosts on multiple nodes12:18
defektin that case I would suggest running another ns server12:19
ActionParsnipbonhoeffer: hwinfo12:20
defektif you want to keep it centralized12:20
MasterOfDisasterdefekt: thought so, thanks12:21
defektnps :)12:22
anton77how to show all users ?12:28
girlz_babyhelo12:28
thelinuxAnyone here is in Steam beta?12:32
linux|newbhmm12:34
linux|newbwhy might /etc/bashrc be empty?12:34
milenaahola12:42
Thepenguin9Does anyone here mine Bitcoins on Quetzal12:43
muhfiasbinhallo..12:45
muhfiasbinis there any particular topic today?12:45
linux|newb./topic12:45
muhfiasbin./topic12:46
Thepenguin9without period12:46
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noobunlimited #selenium12:48
noobunlimitedups12:48
noobunlimitedsorry12:48
thelinux./topic12:53
thelinuxDamn you guys.12:53
ActionParsnip?12:53
ActionParsnipthelinux: do you have a support question?12:54
thelinuxActionParsnip: No, I'm here too to help someone.12:54
thelinuxAnyone is using 13.04 here daily builds?12:56
llutz!13.04 | thelinux12:57
ubottuthelinux: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+112:57
ActionParsnipthelinux: I am12:58
ActionParsnipthelinux: hence I am in +1 ;)12:58
thelinuxActionParsnip: Nice ;)12:58
gaetano#geany12:58
gaetano#blender12:59
ActionParsnipgaetano: try:   /join #blender12:59
llutzgaetano: /join #channelname12:59
gaetano#ubuntustudio13:00
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lfiasidquit13:02
ActionParsniplfiasid: prefix with a slash ;)13:02
muhfiasbinI am using ubuntu 12.04 and after update my ubuntu, I can't tether from my android phone again..13:03
jon__ncik skpl11313:04
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linux|newbhmm, I'm trying to update PS1 in /etc/bash.bashrc - I update the file and changes save but I don't see a difference in the prompt....13:04
bekkslinux|newb: Because you have to source that file.13:04
bekkslinux|newb: ". /etc/bash.bashrc"13:04
AndroUser-thanighow a convert a command into service13:04
linux|newbbekks: cheers13:05
ActionParsnipAndroUser-thanig: you could mess with rc levels, making a file to start/stop/status it13:06
linux|newbbekks: done it and it's working but  so I know for future13:06
linux|newbbekks: ...define 'source' for me pleace13:06
linux|newbplease*13:06
llutzlinux|newb: type " help source" into a terminal13:07
linux|newb...ah I see so really, I need to update $HOME/.BASHRC13:08
bekkslinux|newb: No. $HOME/.bashrc13:08
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ActionParsniplinux|newb: watch the case, Linux is very case sensitive13:08
linux|newbbekks: ActionParsnip: typo on my part - realised. thanks :)13:09
ActionParsnip;)13:09
AndroUser-thanig[18:36] (ActionParsnip)  then how can i stop the command when processing.13:09
ActionParsnipAndroUser-thanig: here is an example: http://www.dropboxwiki.com/Ubuntu_Startup13:10
ActionParsnipAndroUser-thanig: drop your customized file into /etc/init.d/    then run: update-rc.d dropbox defaults13:11
ActionParsnipAndroUser-thanig: obviously change all the stuff to what you want to run and so forth13:11
ActionParsnipAndroUser-thanig: you can then use the 'service' command like you do the others to start/stop etc the sevrice13:12
AndroUser-thanig[18:41] (ActionParsnip) thankyou sir.13:13
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ThinkT510!tab | AndroUser-thanig13:13
ubottuAndroUser-thanig: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.13:13
decciI need  server monitoring script to get uptime, load & memory and ping check and display with check every 5 mins.  Multiple linux instances with php etc enabled to montior  A good example of what we want: http://status.nodedeploy.com13:14
decciAny idea if similar open source tool exists13:14
bekksdecci: Yes. It is called "nagios".13:14
ActionParsnipdecci: could use ssh and run one time commands13:16
ActionParsnipdecci: or you could use snmp: http://www.debianadmin.com/linux-snmp-oids-for-cpumemory-and-disk-statistics.html13:18
LiquidDemocracyI just bought the Logitec Wireless Solar Keyboard k750 but it does not work. No key works. What could I try to get it to work?13:22
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: how does it connect to the system?13:23
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, What exactly to you mean?13:25
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, USB if you mean that.13:25
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, more exact USB 2.013:25
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: yes, exactly that13:25
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: is it charged?13:25
LiquidDemocracyLiquidDemocracy, yes.13:26
OpenSorceAnyone from England?13:27
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: if you unplug it, then wait a few seconds then shove it back in, does it work?13:27
erichfkg13:27
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erichce qualcuno13:28
LiquidDemocracyLiquidDemocracy, unfortunately not.13:28
ActionParsnipOpenSorce: I am13:28
OpenSorceMy boyfriend asked for bangers and mash.... did he not mean for breakfast?13:28
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ActionParsnipOpenSorce: thats offtopic here13:28
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: are there any bugs reported?13:28
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: is there an on/off switch on the keyboard?13:29
OpenSorceIndeed, my apologies...13:29
linux|newbexit13:29
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, the keyboard is powered on and I did not find any bug reports so far.13:29
linux|newboops13:29
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, http://askubuntu.com/questions/25877/will-a-logitech-k750-keyboard-work13:30
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: top right corner, there appears to be a switch, is it on?13:30
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, yes it it.13:30
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, is.13:31
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: oh does it have a USB dongle to make it wireless?13:31
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, yes it does have one.13:31
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, which is also used by the Logitec mouse, which works perfectly.13:32
OpenSorceActionParsnip, of topic though it may be, I won't ask again... a single word answer: Bangers and Mash. Breakfast or not?13:32
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: is there a sync button that needs pressing>13:32
ActionParsnipOpenSorce: its mashed potatoes and sausages.....I'd say not but if you want it then why not :)13:33
OpenSorceActionParsnip, dammit.... he'll awake soon. Thanks :-)13:33
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, there is no sync button.13:34
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: if you unsync the most, can you sync the keyboard?13:34
LiquidDemocracyLiquidDemocracy, what does that mean?13:34
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: i'd check the chargedness of the keyboard too13:34
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: unlink the mouse, then try the keyboard13:35
LiquidDemocracyLiquidDemocracy, it is charged, double, tripple checked.13:35
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: I'd check for bugs then, or report one. Logitech hate Linux and refuse to support it13:36
dalton2345hello everyone, is there a way to set the priority of a program?13:38
OpenSorceActionParsnip, you're right this isn't breakfast at all....13:39
Seveasdalton2345, yes, with the nice and renice commands13:39
clubberxHi, After a fresh install of 12.10 webapps don't appear to be working in chromium only in firefox - is this supposed to be the case?13:40
dalton2345seveas, i'm looking at changing it before it start13:40
Seveasdalton2345, you do that by using 'nice $priority $progname'13:41
dalton2345seveas, i did nice -20 program didnt do a thing13:42
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, do I have to change anything in the Kubuntu configuration? The wireless keyboard is not the same one I did the upgrade to 12.10 with.13:43
Seveasdalton2345, looks like cpu scheduling isn't your problem then :)13:43
dalton2345i can change while it run but not before it starts13:43
DarkSimMaybe not a real tech question, more a trivial one. To achieve the flashiest and most visually appealing desktop, how do I do this? :)13:45
doomlordis the geforce gt640 officially broken for compiz (i get a 2d desktop and gl works, but no compiz)13:45
simple_onemy mouse cursor lags  iam using 12.1013:45
war59312rm: cannot remove `test.mkv': Text file busy13:45
war59312rm: cannot remove `test.mkv': Text file busy13:46
war59312any ideas?13:46
Congdid you try restarting the comp?13:46
unrarwohai13:46
war59312fuser shows nothing13:46
war59312yes restarting does not work13:46
war59312unmounting does not work either13:47
Congtext file busy?13:47
war59312means file is open somewere13:47
clubberxdoes anyone know about webapps and chromium in 12.10?13:47
Congwar59312, use -f13:48
war59312with ?13:49
war59312i can copy the file with cp -f but thats it..13:49
llutzwar59312: "sudo lsof |grep test.mkv"13:49
anhdayhi people, do i need acpi-support if i'm not using laptop?13:49
war59312llutz when I run that I get:13:50
war59312lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/rob/gvfs13:50
war59312      Output information may be incomplete.13:50
Congso the -f switch in rm is for non-exists files and for it to never prompt13:50
llutzwar59312: file is on cifs-share?13:51
Congwhy is it named force?13:51
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war59312Cong still get Text file busy when using rm -f13:51
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war59312llutz yes, cifs share13:52
Congwar59312, how big is it?13:53
war59312llutz its only 4 files that are giving this error.. the other 47 files deleted just fine13:54
war59312cong it is is 1.1 GB (1,088,289,388 bytes)13:54
Congwar59312, start killing some program13:55
Cong-'s13:55
llutzCong: nonsense13:55
Congit's easy kill -kill <prg>13:55
llutzwar59312: some googling shows it a common smb-problem, no real workaround besides renaming the file and removing it then13:55
war59312cant rename it either :(13:55
war59312llutz i killed smb but no luck either13:56
llutzCong: what process do you want to kill if you don't even know what process holds it open?13:56
Congllutz, try them all13:56
llutzCong: nonsense13:56
Congllutz, the non-important ones first13:56
auronandaceCong: don't offer bad advise13:57
war59312cong im not doign that13:57
rahsputinHi13:57
war59312ok maybe if i can ssh into the drive itself.. its running linx too then maybe it can delete it..13:58
llutzwar59312: are you sure the file isn't in use on the server?13:58
rahsputini have a strange nVidia card, so when i try to install Ubuntu, i always get this fuzzied up screen, in other words no X ....13:58
rahsputinat some point (shutting down) i could read some output ... nouvo something I/O error  .....13:59
war59312llutz 100% sure.. I just figured it out14:00
rahsputini couldn't even change to tty1 ...14:00
war59312llutz files are gone.. was able to ssh into box and login as root and deleted them14:00
rahsputinis there a way to pass X a different driver to use ?14:00
war59312just weird i could not delete them via sudo on server box14:00
llutzwar59312: sounds like cifs-issues, but i don't know. i usually don't have to deal with cifs . glad you solved it14:01
HemzaUbuntu 10.04. When I try to reboot an error message  (/boot , /sbin and other not found)How to fix/recovery /boot directory and all related files ?14:01
war59312llutz is there a better way to mount a share and still have read and write permissions and use NFS with it ?14:02
llutzwar59312: windows-share? idk, sorry, i prefer nfs14:03
war59312llutz yea I mean nfs on my ubuntu box itself14:04
war59312llutz the hardware i am accessing btw is this drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682214866114:05
llutzwar59312: nfs isn't too hard, you just  should use same usernames/uids on all machines to make it easier14:05
war59312llutz i am.. and it did NOT work..14:05
war59312llutz probally has to do with the hacky nature of running linux on the drive.. its more than a hack then anything.. but i do have root access14:06
frakkHi. So I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my MacBook Air 4,2 (the 2011 edition). According to the help.ubuntu.com-page, everything (except Thunderbolt) should work out of the box, but I can't get wireless to work. I did the installation without internet connection. I do not have access to wired internet for the next weeks, but there is a wireless network (the same I'm connected to know via OS X). When I try to connect to a wireless network, Ubunt14:06
war59312llutz and when i say did not work.. i could not get write access no matter what I tried.14:06
llutzwar59312: could be, i never had that problems but all i use are "normal PCs" running debian and some ARM-boards14:06
war59312llutz no problem.. its all good... been working fine hence this:14:07
war5931209:07:09 up 173 days, 11:29,  1 user,  load average: 0.12, 0.12, 0.0914:07
llutzwar59312: 173 days, so no security updates at all? :)14:08
frakkIs it for example possible to add the broadcom-sta module manually by first downloading it to OS X and then use the memory stick to install it in Ubuntu?14:08
Congfrakk, possible.14:09
jribfrakk: sure, you can grab packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com .  But keep in mind you must make sure to grab all the dependencies as well14:09
g0dfrey"gcc -lnetfilter_queue -c a.c" success and when "gcc -lnetfilter_queue -o a a.o" it will tell that functions in libnetfilter_queue undefinde14:10
g0dfreyi install libnetfilter-queue-dev and it dependices14:10
g0dfreythe progam can be compiled but can't be linked14:10
war59312llutz all security updates installed via http://www.ksplice.com/ :)14:10
g0dfreycan anyone help ?14:10
Congfrakk, everything you need is already on teh live disc.14:11
g0dfreythe problem exists in 12.04 and no problem with 10.0414:11
g0dfreycan anyone help?14:12
kae_upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday. transmission-gtk won't start up now. fails with segmentation fault. what do I do next to find the cause?14:14
frakkCong, jrib: ok, it doesn't seem like broadcom-sta have any dependencies (ref. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/broadcom-sta-common). So I should be able to just download the package and double click on it from Ubuntu 12.04?14:14
k1lkae_: start it from a terminal and take a look at the output14:14
jribkae_: I'd start by clearing out any settings you have and seeing if it persists14:15
frakkCong: well, for some reason it doesn't work :/14:15
kae_k1l, when I start from terminal, it merely says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"14:16
g0dfrey i install libnetfilter-queue-dev and i can compile my programs but cannot link it ...so what's maybe the problem?14:16
frakkCong: and help.ubuntu.com suggest installing the broadcom-sta package, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Wireless14:16
jribfrakk: I'd probably grab broadcom-sta-dkms too14:16
kae_jrib, not sure how to clear transmission settings without destroying my whole profile14:16
jribkae_: create a new user14:17
frakkjrib: thanks, just noticed that myself :P14:17
gus_ /ignore -channels #mwsf14:17
frakkjrib: should I try to mimmick the commands listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Wireless ?14:18
frakkjrib: Seems like I should be able to execute all of them except 'sudo apt-get update'14:19
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jribfrakk: you'll have to use dpkg or gdebi to install the .deb's you download14:20
simple_onethe mouse pointer lags on 12.10 any ideas?14:20
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PudgePacketHi :) I just installed ubuntu through wubi, but it doesn't recognise my wireless dongle. It came with some windows driver installers but ubuntu can't read the windows .exe files, any ideas ?14:20
Congfrakk, this is how I did installed it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx14:21
klyncwhen I watch videos on youtube they have a blue tint, but I know it's not my monitor, I think it's the codec or sth. anyone see this before? any ideas?14:21
simple_onePudgePacker: you can open the .exe files via wine14:21
simple_oneklync:try to disable the hardwarre acceleration14:22
simple_oneklync:right-click on the video then settings uncheck the box enable hardware acceleration14:23
PudgePacketsimple_one But ubuntu has no internet connection, so i can't get wine14:23
klyncwill do, thanks simple_one14:23
simple_onePudgePacket:you dont have a cable for the internet?14:23
PudgePacketsimple_one no, i have windows on this computer and i just installed ubuntu onto it, is there any way i can get wine into ubuntu through windows ?14:24
relolhi14:24
cfhowlettrelol: greetings14:25
reloli have a problem with Canon MP250 printer14:25
relolprint jobs won't get past processing stage14:25
frakkCong: thanks, that seems like a better idea. Plan: 1) download https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/5.100.82.112-4 2) purge bcmwl-kernel-source 3) install broadcom-sta package - does this make sense?14:25
relolLocal printer (USB)14:25
jlangvandPudgePacket: try to extract the exes with gunzip14:25
jlangvandPudgePacket: in terminal, type gunzip file.exe14:26
relolPast versions of Ubuntu 9.10 i had to install drivers from Canon support14:26
PudgePacketjlangvand does gunzip come with default ubuntu ?14:26
jlangvandPudgePacket: then use the inf-file with ndiswrapper to install the windows drivers14:26
jlangvandyes, i think so14:26
relolbut on ubuntu 12 it seems that it i isn't necesary14:26
Congfrakk, don't know. I keep b43 driver files which I would if anything happened (one day) to the current one in /lib/firmware and that's how I install it.14:27
PudgePacketok thanks jlangvand, i'll go try that14:27
relolsudo add-apt-repository ppa:michael-gruz/canon-trunk14:28
relolOkay14:28
relolMy laptop cannot recover after Suspension14:29
relolKeyboard leds flased like Kernel Panic error14:30
relolBut screen didn't display anything14:31
toxaGood day :) tell me, there is a section in the 36 gigs in NTFS. I want to format this partition and merge with the root. how can I do?14:32
compdoctoxa, best bet would be to boot gparted, but it can be a dangerous operation14:33
cfhowletttoxa: boot ubuntu cdrom/usb14:33
toxaThank you. gparted helped14:39
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frakkCong: Hmm, how would you install it from /lib/firmware (the b43 driver files, that is)14:48
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lauxleyHi, i have an apache server that can't access some files ONLY when im not logged in (physically or via ssh), any idea ?14:48
lauxleycould it be because my home folder is encrypted ?14:49
NET||abuseHi folks, whats the best way to setup a post upload hook for an sfp-only user?14:50
NET||abusei'm hoping i don't have to install additional software beyond opensshd14:50
Yakutprivet14:51
dr_willisa post upload hook does what?14:51
Yakuthello14:51
YakutI found a bug14:51
Yakutin Ubuntu 12.1014:51
YakutD:14:51
dr_willis!bug14:51
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:51
Yakutbrain xplode14:54
YakutD:14:54
Yakutwhen I move icons on left bar, my icon have white stripes14:54
Yakutbefore upgrading Ubuntu 12.04 > Ubuntu 12.10 all worked nice14:54
Yakuthello14:56
Yakutuhhh14:56
Yakutauuuuuuuuuh14:56
Yakutrusskie est?14:57
Congfrakk, read this hopefully it will answer all I know https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx14:59
Yakutanybody can gelp me?14:59
escottYakut, what is the question15:00
shkelzenhi15:00
shkelzenI have a question regarding Ubuntu on VmWare15:00
shkelzenanybody can help?15:01
YakutI move icons from left bar15:01
dr_willistest issues with a newly made user. see if the problem affects every user.15:01
Yakutand on icon white stripes attack15:01
compdocshkelzen, I run it on kvm, so maybe15:01
Yakutit looks like a bug15:01
Yakutbut I need online help15:01
Yakutubuntu 12.10 release15:01
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dr_willisYakut: sounds rather trivial bug. could be a driver issue. or a user setting issue.15:02
dr_willistest issues with a newly made user. see if the problem affects every user.15:02
Yakutdr_willis, I upgraded 12.04 > 12.1015:02
Yakutit worked nice15:02
dr_willisits possible some old setting us causeing the issue.15:03
Yakutrebooting doesnt help15:03
Yakutwait me15:03
YakutI will run google translate15:03
Yakut:D15:03
dr_willismake a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.15:03
Yakutdr_willis> make a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.15:03
Yakut* Jguy (~Jman@c-71-201-148-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net) çàøåë íà êàíàë #ubun15:03
Yakutto me?15:03
dr_willis!ru15:04
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.15:04
JguyHello to you too15:04
Yakutïîñëå îáíîâëåíèÿ äî 12.10 ñ 12.04 ïîÿâèëèñü ïîëîñêè íà èêîíêàõ, ïðè ïåðåòàñêèâàíèè ñ ëåâîãî áàðà. Äî îáíîâëåíèÿ âñå áûëî çàìå÷àòåëüíî, êàêèå ñîâåòû?15:05
YakutYakut> est kto?15:05
Yakut* #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel15:05
dr_willisYakut: that was totally unreadable to me15:05
Yakutafter upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04 stripes appeared on icons, dragging from the left bar. Before the upgrade everything was fine, what advice?15:05
dr_willismake a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.15:06
lauxleyif my home is encrypted, is it gonna be decrypted only if i am logged in ?? or any fs operation with the right permissions would work ???15:06
Yakutok15:06
dr_willisis my advice........ Yakut15:06
escottlauxley, only when logged in15:07
Yakutcame as a guest. The strips have not disappeared15:08
Yakutright speaker15:08
Yakutalso on my laptop is not working right speaker15:09
dr_willispossible driver issue with  the video driver. you may want to check askubuntu.com and the forums search features to see if otherrs have reported the same thing.15:10
dr_willistesting with  a 12.10 dvd would also be good info15:10
Yakutdr_willis, who are you?15:11
* dr_willis is me15:11
lauxleyescott: thx15:12
ActionParsnipbit of a deep question15:12
Bimshi15:13
dr_willisbbl.15:13
Bimsjust upgraded to 12.10. now i cannot su to root. what can i do?15:13
jrib!sudo | Bims15:13
ubottuBims: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo15:13
Yakutem15:13
Bimsno, sudo is for single commands15:14
Yakutcan I downgrade Ubuntu to 12.04 without full Ubuntu 12.04 downloading?15:14
Bimsi want a shell as root15:14
Yakutfrom 12.1015:14
jribBims: if you bothered to read the information sent to you, you would see you get a shell by doing « sudo -i »15:14
Bimsjrib: and why does su not work any longer?15:14
escottBims, sudo -i15:14
BluesKajHi all15:14
escottBims, su never worked15:15
ActionParsnipYakut: the only way to downgrade to a previous release is a clean install15:15
jribBims: you can only su to root if you've set a root password.  One isn't set by default.  It's also not necessary and not recommended15:15
Bimsah, okay15:15
Yakut=(15:15
ActionParsnipBims: it does, you just can't su to root15:15
PudgePacketI'm having a crack at using ndiswrapper to get my wireless usb dongle going, i ran ndiswrapper on the driver files, but it said the driver is invalid, any ideas?15:15
ActionParsnipBims: if you have 2 users on the system, you can su between without issue15:15
ActionParsnipBims: sudo -i    is also good because it uses your user's environment, not root's15:19
PudgePacketI have ubuntu installd with wubi alongside windows, is there anyway i can tell ubuntu to use my windows drivers for my usb wireless?15:19
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ActionParsnipPudgePacket: if you can find the files, yes15:21
ActionParsnipPudgePacket: what wifi chip are you using?15:21
Safa_[A_boy]hi all, I'm trying to open ubutnu tweak but it opens and closes ! what is the problem ?15:22
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: try running it from a terminal15:22
dr_willisSafa_[A_boy]: run it from a terminal.. look for error messages15:22
Yakutïîñëå èíâàëèäíîñòè ñåìåííîãî íàñîñà óåõàâøèé ìàêóøêà êðàñíûé ïëàêàòü çàâòðà áûñòðî íåëåïûé ñìàéëèê ñåðîãî ãîíÿòüñÿ. Ïðè òîðìîæåíèè ÿâíîé ñðûâà íå õîòåëîñü êàòàñòðîôè÷åñêè ñìåÿòüñÿ îò ïîïðûãóí÷èêà ùóêè. ×òî çà áðåêåòû?15:22
Yakutdisability after top seed pump gone red cry tomorrow quickly ironic smiley gray race. When braking apparent catastrophic failure did not want to laugh with skipjack pike. That for braces?15:23
KsMyes.15:23
PudgePacketActionParsnip, it's a usb plug and play sort of thing, a dongle. net8192 if that means anything, all the driver files are installed in windows and i have access to windows from ubuntu15:23
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dr_willisYakut:  that was unreadable... and seemed to be unrelated to ubuntu15:24
Yakutjust help me15:24
Yakutplz15:24
Yakut(15:24
ActionParsnipPudgePacket: if you run:  lsusb    what is the 8 charcter hex ID for the device?15:24
escottPudgePacket, you should use the linux drivers (net8192) over any ndiswrapper approach15:24
dr_willisYakut: with?15:24
Yakutwith stripes15:25
Yakutand sounds15:25
Yakutand sound15:25
Seveas!ru | Yakut15:25
ubottuYakut: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.15:25
Safa_[A_boy]what to type ? :p I've tried (ubuntutweak) and (ubuntu tweak) and they didnt work :(15:25
Yakutthese channel doesnt work15:25
YakutI cant tell with them15:25
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: ubuntu-tweak15:25
SeveasYakut, set your IRC client to use utf-8 as encoding15:25
dr_willisyou checked the forums and askununtu.com yet  Yakut ?15:25
Yakutno15:26
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc15:26
Safa_[A_boy]output: Segmentation fault (core dumped)15:26
dr_willisyou tested with a 12.10 live dvd yet,?15:26
PudgePacket0bda:8178 ActionParsnip15:26
Yakutasd15:26
PudgePacketescott, linux version is unavailable15:27
Chotaz`xI have ubuntu 12.10 and just created a NTFS Partition on my second hdd to install win8 in15:27
dr_willisSafa_[A_boy]: its crashing badly. see if there is a newer versiin15:27
Yakut<Yakut> есть кто?15:27
ActionParsnipPudgePacket: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc15:27
Yakut* #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel15:27
Yakut<Yakut> помогите с багом15:27
Yakut* #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel15:27
Yakut<Yakut> D:15:27
Yakut* #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel15:27
FloodBot1Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:27
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc15:27
Safa_[A_boy]its the newest !15:28
ActionParsnipPudgePacket: seems to use the rtl8192cu driver15:28
dr_willisSafa_[A_boy]: id check the ppa and reinstall it for srarters15:28
Yakutvlad_starkov, privet15:28
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: can you give the output of the command please15:28
Safa_[A_boy]precise15:28
PudgePacketActionParsnip, quantal15:28
Yakutmozhesh perevesti burzhuyam moe pozhelanie?)15:28
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: not the newest but I'm not sure if its still around for precise15:28
PudgePacketYes ActionParsnip, that name looks correct :)15:29
ActionParsnipPudgePacket: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x15:29
Yakutpizdets nichego neponimayut15:29
Yakutdlya chego kanal voobshe15:29
MonkeyDust!en15:29
ubottuCertain Ubuntu IRC channels are English only.  For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:29
ActionParsnip!info ubuntu-tweak precise15:29
ubottuPackage ubuntu-tweak does not exist in precise15:29
bekks!ru ¦ Yakut15:29
ubottubekks: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:29
dr_willisits not in the default repos15:29
bekks!ru | Yakut15:29
ubottuYakut: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.15:29
Safa_[A_boy]https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/0.8.x/0.8.2/+download/ubuntu-tweak_0.8.2-1~precise1_all.deb15:29
killerhi.......how do i disable alt <left-click> (window move)....as i need it in blender15:29
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/   seems to be for 11.10 only15:30
YakutI cant speak on ubuntu-ru15:30
Yakutbecause I havent permission15:30
Yakut:(15:30
MonkeyDustYakut  what is your language?15:30
escott!register | Yakut15:30
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Yakutrussian and yakut15:30
Yakut!register Yakut sakhayakutsklala15:30
ubottuYakut: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:30
dr_willisor they got a ban on you for some reason15:30
Safa_[A_boy]ActionParsnip, are u sure ?!15:31
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: read the page I gave the linked to15:31
Yakutubottu> Yakut: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" :)15:31
ubottuYakut: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:31
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tuxydoHi. How do I get Azureus as my default bittorrent client?15:31
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/ubuntu-tweak-gets-full-ubuntu-1210.html   says a ppa for later15:32
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PudgePacketThanks for that ActionParsnip, the guide says to add some sources to your list, but i don't have internet while in ubuntu because that's what i am trying to fix, any ideas?15:32
ActionParsniptuxydo: right click a torrent file. select open with, select the app and select to remember the association15:32
YakutYakut> есть КТО?15:32
Yakut* #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel15:32
FloodBot1Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:32
killerhow do i disbable alt left click window moving15:33
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: is that the PPA you used?15:33
tuxydoActionParsnip: thank you.15:33
dr_williskiller: id check  askubuntu.com   ive seen that asked befor15:33
Yakutpush me15:34
Yakutand then just fap me15:34
ActionParsnipkiller: its part of XOrg itself, sounds like askubuntu has it according to dr_willis15:34
Pinkamena_Dhi, for some reason my libre office icon appears grey and will not "restore" the window when i click on it15:34
Yakutmasturbation15:34
Yakutpush fappush fappush fap15:34
Yakutpush fappush fappush fap push fap15:34
Pinkamena_Dif i minimize other windows to get to it, the program itself works fine15:34
Pinkamena_Dbut clicking the sidebar icon does nothing15:35
gordonjcpYakut: inappropriate15:35
Pinkamena_Das well as alt-tabbing to it, that does nothing aswell15:35
PudgePacketThanks for your help so far ActionParsnip15:35
varikonniemihttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso is this a iso file that can be installed to usb with dd?15:35
varikonniemii have trouble to get it to boot15:36
Yakutgordonjcp> Yakut: inappropriate" inapropotori what?15:36
dr_willisvarikonniemi: any  recent release iso can work with dd15:36
varikonniemidr_willis, yes. This is not a release you see?15:37
dr_willisvarikonniemi: current is 12.04 or 12.1015:37
Yakut12.10 is a release15:38
Yakut._.15:38
varikonniemiyes, but also the mini.iso you say?15:38
Yakutslowpoke15:38
varikonniemishould be "hybrid" or what is the term15:38
bekks!offtopic | Yakut15:38
ubottuYakut: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:38
Yakutvarikonniemi> yes, but also the mini.iso you say?" big.inc15:38
Yakutbekks" lol15:38
dr_willisall the isos since 11.04 i think are hrbrid15:39
Yakutje ne sais pas15:39
Yakutoh ye o ye15:39
Yakutja nie rozumien15:39
Yakutne ponime15:39
varikonniemiare you a dev=15:39
ActionParsnipvarikonniemi: mini iso install kernel, modules, boot loader and a handful of tools15:39
ActionParsnipvarikonniemi: there is a 32bit mini iso and a 64bit mini iso15:39
YakutActionParsnip" help me15:39
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ActionParsnipYakut: wassup?15:40
YakutActionParsnip" whatsapp?15:40
YakutI have stripes when moving icons15:40
Yakutbut its not critical15:40
ActionParsnipYakut: what video chip are you using?15:40
YakutMY RIGHT DYNAMIC DONT SOUND15:41
ActionParsnipYakut: what video chip are you using?15:41
YakutGT 540M15:41
Yakutlaptop15:41
dr_willisright side speaker?15:41
lachlanthis is dardy15:41
k1lYakut: can you please troll elswhere? if you want support calm down or leave the channel.15:41
lachlanSUPOORT ME15:41
ActionParsnipYakut: does it have hybrid graphics?15:41
YakutI have a real problem15:41
lachlani need suport15:41
lachlanMEOW15:42
Yakutyes15:42
FloodBot1lachlan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:42
lachlanMEO15:42
lachlanWMWEOMWOEM15:42
YakutIntel and Nvidia15:42
dr_willis!ask15:42
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:42
YakutI have bubmblebeee15:42
ActionParsnipYakut: then you will get problems15:42
Yakutbumblebee15:42
lachlansudo apt-get install fuck_allyou-niggs-0.8.615:42
ActionParsnipYakut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics  is all I know15:42
yeats!ops | lachlan15:42
ubottulachlan: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!15:42
YakutActionParsnip" uh15:42
Yakutyoure a captaun obvious15:42
ActionParsnipYakut: if you intend to use Linux based OS it is best (imho) to flat out avoid that mess15:42
YakutI installed bubmlbebee15:43
YakutNvidia worjs good15:43
ActionParsnipYakut: I assume nothing15:43
Yakutbut I have stripes and right sound making thing has died15:43
dr_willisbumble is verymuch a work in progress and not stable.15:43
ActionParsnipYakut: have you tried a different desktop?15:43
Yakuton 12.0415:43
Yakutthere s didnt yes stripes15:44
ActionParsnipYakut: yes, install xfce4   then log off and log in to the XFCE session, is it ok there?15:44
dr_willisa clean unstall of 12.10 may work also.15:44
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YakutI used 12.04 - WERE WAS VERY BEATUIFULL AND STABLE15:44
Yakutdesktop = UI?15:44
ActionParsnipYakut: then why did you fix it?15:44
Yakutor diffretnet device15:44
yeatsYakut: I recommend backing up your files and reinstalling 12.0415:44
ActionParsnipYakut: you fixed something that wasn't broken....15:45
YakutActionParsnip" 12.10 is a bugfix?15:45
Yakuto.o15:45
dr_willisor testing with a 12.10 live dvd see if it happens there15:45
Yakut* klmn ушел (Quit: Wychodzi)" polak co tak15:45
bekksYakut: 12.10 is a different release.15:45
ActionParsnipYakut: not really, 12.04 is LTS so is designed to be super stable15:46
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Yakutbekks> Yakut: 12.10 is a different release." O_O15:46
Yakut12.10 is a beta?15:46
miistxun saluto15:46
bekksYakut: No.15:46
ActionParsnipYakut: no, its just not LTS15:46
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YakutI know what it isnt LTS15:46
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YokoBRguys, please, i've been trying for 2 days to install my ati driver on ubuntu 12.10, but i can't.... says that the install went ok, but when i reboot, i can't get 3d working15:46
dr_willis!lts15:46
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)15:46
Yakut=_=15:46
Yakutbut i have a bug15:46
Yakutwith stripes and sound15:46
Yakutno LTS doesnt mean bugs15:47
Yakutof course?15:47
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thelinuxActionParsnip: Not "designed to be super stable" but will over time cause it has support of 5 years. You can even see how 10.04 LTS got stable over years.15:47
headbusterHello, can I have some help removing gnome. I think I managed to download a lot of stuff I don't need while trying to change my unity theme.15:47
Safa_[A_boy]ActionParsnip, nothing new ! still: Segmentation fault (core dumped)15:48
ActionParsnipSafa_[A_boy]: then I suggest you contact the PPA maintainers15:48
YakutI want prezervativ pongolin15:48
Yakutor normal GUI with no bug15:49
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ActionParsnipthelinux: yeah Lucid was nice, its dead soon though15:49
ActionParsnipYakut: all software has bugs in some form15:49
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Yakut=(15:49
ActionParsnipYakut: did you try the XFCE desktop?15:49
Yakutno15:49
varikonniemimini.iso is not hybrid, it seems15:50
IdleOneYakut: There is no such thing as a "normal GUI with no bugs" why not state the issue you are actually having and find out if someone can help with it.15:50
YakutI had Windows 7 aero15:50
CongIn new years I'll be installing a 12 series (version 12.04). Can I install gnome-panel, enable metacity and disable unity? I need instructions.15:50
ActionParsnipYakut: I suggest you do15:50
Safa_[A_boy]its strange ! in 12.10 it works, in 12.04 it doesnt :(15:50
Yakutbut it is very  ad15:50
thelinuxActionParsnip: Unfortunately yes, it's last of its kind, with gnome 2.x.15:50
varikonniemiso i have no way to install my 12.10 then :( great choices, ubuntu15:50
Yakutbad15:50
Yakutand I make ubuntu15:50
ActionParsnipthelinux: thank god15:50
Yakut12.0415:50
Yakutwas nice15:50
FloodBot1Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:50
yeats!nounity | Cong15:50
ubottuCong: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic15:50
Yakut12.10 is like a dog shit15:50
ActionParsnipYakut: why do you need to hit ENTER after every other word?15:50
IdleOne!language | Yakut15:50
ubottuYakut: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.15:50
YakutActionParsnip, I dont know15:51
ActionParsnipYakut: try the other desktop, see how it goes15:51
thelinuxActionParsnip: Why "thank god"?15:51
varikonniemitell me how i am supposed to install to a raid1 setup the 12.10 when i have no cd drive?15:51
headbusterHow can I remove gnome .  I have lot's of unneeded gnome files and I want to use unity.15:51
headbuster*packages15:51
ActionParsnipthelinux: because it has painfully old versions of nearly everything, newer hardware works well with the newer kernels and drivers15:51
IdleOneheadbuster: Unity runs on top of gnome315:51
ActionParsnipheadbuster: you need gnome for Unity15:51
ActionParsnipwell, not strictly but it helps a LOT15:52
thelinuxActionParsnip: But 10.04 LTS is great for poeple with little bit older hardware, if they like gnome classic.15:52
Forzarget to a fresh installing..15:52
thelinuxheadbuster: Wait, I'll help you.15:52
ActionParsnipthelinux: then you can use Xubuntu or Lubuntu15:52
headbusterI see, I installed gnome-*something*-extenstions and it installed alot of sutff. I managed to get my old login screen back but I can see that there is a lot of gnome pakcages that I don't need.15:53
thelinuxActionParsnip: Some poeple prefer good old experience with gnome 2.x ;)15:53
IdleOnethelinux: gnome2 is dead.15:53
headbusterI tried removing gnome-*something*-extensions but it didn't remove the other packages it downloaded.15:53
ActionParsnipthelinux: XFCE looks and feels a lot like Gnome215:53
YokoBRplease, could someone help me installing my gpu driver?15:53
thelinuxIdleOne: Not really. Have you heard of MATE?15:54
ActionParsnipheadbuster: try:  dpkg -l | grep gnome | awk {'print $2'}15:54
thelinuxYokoBR: What's is the problem buddy?15:54
IdleOnethelinux: I have. gnome2 is dead15:54
ActionParsnipheadbuster: review the list, if you want rid of them all, we can use it to remove the lot in one command15:54
IdleOneNow please let's get back to Ubuntu support15:54
thelinuxIdleOne: Open source software is never dead, it still lives through MATE.15:54
YokoBRthelinux, i'm on ubuntu 12.10, and i've installed the driver but i can't get it working15:54
YokoBRi mean, it's fglrx on xorg.conf, but no opengl woking15:55
YokoBRsorry for my bad english15:55
ActionParsnipthelinux: mate support is quite limited15:55
thelinuxYokoBR: Yeah I had similliar problems with previous versions. Did you use additional drivers tab from software sources to install driver for your gpu?15:55
IdleOneThis channel is not the place to discuss it, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue chatting.15:55
YokoBRyep15:55
headbusterActionParsnip: everything seems to be working, I just don't want to have stuff that I don't need on the system, since I only have 30gb, and I don't know which of those are needed for unity.15:56
YokoBRthelinux, yep, i've installed by there. And everything goes ok on the installation15:56
thelinuxActionParsnip: Not really, I've used it, I must say it's really good, pure gnome 2.x experience, but it's still in development ;)15:56
ActionParsnipthelinux: no, its not supported here, so if you get issues with mate you won't get help here15:56
thelinuxYokoBR: Who is manufacturer of you card? And model of it?15:57
ActionParsnipheadbuster: I'd remove the gnome apps then just install Unity, it will install what is needed15:57
YokoBRi have hybrid hd 4200 and hd 631015:57
YokoBRamd ati15:58
thelinuxActionParsnip: You have Mint community who can help with MATE since it's official DE on Mint 13.15:58
IdleOne!ot | thelinux ActionParsnip Please stop.15:58
ubottuthelinux ActionParsnip Please stop.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:58
auronandacethelinux: then go to the mint channel15:58
ActionParsnipIdleOne: you got it :D15:58
headbusterActionParsnip: ok, any idea how to do that? also: http://pastebin.com/J86MjViK15:58
YokoBRsorry, thelinux, hydrib hd 4200 and hd 6310, amd/ati15:58
Bier__my hdd from my laptop recently broke, so I am now using ubuntu and it's awesome!15:59
thelinuxIdleOne ubottu auronandace: What? I said Mint community is experienced with MATE. What did I do wrong?15:59
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IdleOnethelinux: You are continuing to be off topic for this channel.16:00
auronandacethelinux: this is a support channel, not a discussion channel16:00
thelinuxIdleOne auronandace: Sorry sometimes I go off topic without even noticing, sorry about that.16:00
IdleOnethelinux: in #ubuntu we support Ubuntu. We have many other channels in the ubuntu name space that you are welcome to join and "chat"16:00
bipulthelinux,  please don't troll here16:01
thelinuxYokoBR: Delete drivers you have installed, and try downloading driver for you GPU from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx16:02
YakutBier__> my hdd from my laptop recently broke, so I am now using ubuntu and it's awesome!" using from CD?16:02
thelinuxbipul: Excuse me?16:02
YokoBRthelinux, i've already tried that :(16:02
bipulthelinux, Excuse us , with you mint talk about ubuntu16:03
IdleOnebipul: thelinux does not appear to be trolling, they just may not have been aware of the channel policy16:03
zykotick9thelinux: using drivers from outside of ubuntu repos is... not the greatest suggestion.  YokoBR16:03
bipulIdleOne,  oh then  i am really sory for that :)16:03
YokoBRokay, i screwd up my system16:03
thelinuxzykotick9: Exactly. But he installed from additional drivers, it doesn't work for him.16:04
CongSo I just install gnome-panel, select it from the sessions in the login screen and that's it. I have disabled unity?16:04
Yakutbipul" U are trolling what you name other people trolling16:04
Yakutyou are slim troll16:04
ActionParsnipCong: yes, unity doesn't load16:04
IdleOnestop!16:04
auronandacehammer time16:05
thelinuxYokoBR: I had issue with NVIDIA drivers myself in some pass releases, you can only blame bad support of NVIDIA and ATI  for drivers. But have you tried using older versions of that driver buddy?16:05
YakutI have a problem wit launching Ageof Empires 3 on wine16:06
Yakutcan you help me?16:06
IdleOneYakut: ##winehq can16:06
thelinuxBier__: You mentioned your laptop broke? Do you need help with something buddy?16:06
auronandace!appdb | Yakut16:06
ubottuYakut: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help16:06
urist_For the first time I purchased an AMD video card, only to find out it doesn't work very well with Ubuntu. it's so disappointing. I won't be buying AMD again after this one16:06
YakutIdleOne fanx bro16:07
Yakutyoure awesome16:07
boris-sematGreetings. I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice about ripping my dvd collection. I have ripped 3 different dvds using Handbrake. I have three files now that are 6-8 GB and they are m4v. I can't find a media player that will open and play them. I tried changing one of the files to a mp4 but I still didn't get any results. I have used VLC and Miro. I have Ubuntu 3rd party installed. Thank you16:07
thelinuxurist_: Yeah, ATI had ussually bad support for Linux drivers. Try older versions of that driver.16:07
YokoBRthelinux, ive tryied the ati.com legacy, but didn't worked also16:07
InspectorCluseauI had an ATI card years ago that crapped and took out the MB ... never again16:08
dr_willisboris-semat:  vlc can play them rere i rev16:08
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boris-sematdr_willis: I tried VLC but it wouldn't play them. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still it would not play16:09
dr_willisboris-semat:  you can reencode them with other tools if you want different formats16:09
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varikonniemihow does ubuntu and lubuntu differ on a practical level?16:10
Yakutlubuntu is for lower end PC16:10
varikonniemican i make a lubuntu into ubuntu by repointing the repos etc?16:10
dr_willisboris-semat:  uninstalling/reinstalling is a 'windows mindset'     run vlc from a terminal play the file.. look for error messages16:10
Yakuton lubuntu is KDE16:10
zykotick9varikonniemi: what desktop-environment they use by default - that's it...16:10
dr_willisvarikonniemi:  just install ubuntu-desktop package16:11
mneptokvarikonniemi: your question is so broad in scale it would malke any answer pretty useless.16:11
auronandacevarikonniemi: they already use the same repos16:11
varikonniemias i see  lubuntu 12.10 is available, so it would be my best choice to get 12.1016:11
Yakutbut ubuntu is better16:11
boris-sematdr_willis:  You caught me :) I am a recent convert to the world of Linux16:11
thelinuxInspectorCluseau: Yeah I almost bought an ATI video card when my NVIDIA graphics card broke. Good thing I choosed NVIDIA again, since I wasn't aware at that time of bad support for ATI linux drivers.16:11
mneptokYakut: Lubuntu uses LXDR. not KDE.16:11
mneptok*LXDE16:11
Yakutmneptok, thanks cap16:11
dr_willisboris-semat: there are other dvd ripper apps in the repos.16:11
thelinuxYakut: LXDE16:11
YakutI knew it16:11
Yakutbut I joke with KDE16:11
Yakut:D16:11
thelinuxYakut: Sorry ;)16:11
boris-sematdr_willis:  what commands do I use to run it from the terminal?16:12
mneptokYakut: avoid jokes when people need support.16:12
dr_willisboris-semat:  'vlc'16:12
Yakutmneptok, am sorry but its very funny16:12
Yakutto joke16:12
mneptokYakut: don't do it. full stop.16:12
Yakutthese channel is very monotonus16:13
Bier__theLinux: not really, I was just showing appreciation. my only problem right now is that the screen that i hooked up to my laptop is slightly blurry, even though it's in it's native resolution16:13
Bier__im installing updates for ubuntu first though16:13
YakutI want to make this channel more colorful16:13
mneptokYakut: keep up the offtopic banter and joking and i promise i will make things more interesting for you.16:13
k1lYakut: your behavior is called trolling. so stop that now!16:13
thelinuxBier__: Is there option on your screen, a button to adjust resolution? That could fix it.16:13
dr_willisYakut:  thats for #ubuntu-offtopic chat and color16:13
boris-sematdr_willis:  here is the results from the terminal: [0xb230dc70] mp4 demux error: MP4 plugin discarded (no moov,foov,moof box)16:13
boris-semat[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0xb2317700] moov atom not found16:13
boris-semat[0xb230dc70] avformat demux error: Could not open : Unknown error 109499552916:13
boris-semat[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0xb540c2a0] moov atom not found16:13
Bier__there is, let me try16:14
auronandaceYakut: this is a support channel, making jokes like that is like spreading misinformation, not fair to newcommers16:14
Yakutmneptok> Yakut: keep up the offtopic banter and joking and i promise i will make things more interesting for you." tell me how I can enjoy without stripes on icon at dash16:14
mneptokYakut: i do not use Ubuntu, so i do not have a Dash.16:15
Bier__theLinux: the auto button worked! :D16:15
dr_willisboris-semat:  i would try reencoding with a diffeerent app, and try a different riper tool.16:15
Bier__sharp as a nail16:15
Yakuti will make things more interesting for you." okay..16:15
Yakut)16:15
boris-sematdr_willis:  ok...i'll give that a shot. Thanks!16:15
thelinuxBier__: Awesome ;)16:16
dr_willisboris-semat:  ive also seen protected dvds that dont playback or have issues on pcs  and older players. ;(16:16
mneptokYakut: that was your last offtopic comment.16:16
mneptok!ot16:16
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boris-sematdr_willis:  I thought that it could be something like that. I started with 4 dvds and one wouldn't even rip. It stopped after 2 seconds and said it was complete. The others had no problems but won't play after they finish16:17
dr_willisboris-semat:  i ended up using dvdfab in wine with the problrm ones i had. even then some wouldent rip.16:18
boris-sematdr_willis:  is it illegal to get them from torrents if you own the dvd?16:19
Yakuttell me please good channel where I can speak with people16:19
Yakut^)^16:19
Yakut^_^16:19
dr_willisboris-semat:  who knows.. .. ive seen it argued both ways.16:20
Random832it depends on the country. I know it's illegal in the US, though.16:20
chucktewksany folks on that know where drupal would be installed by default?  is there an easy way to know this with an "apt" command of some kind :)16:20
Defuerahey guys, I just updated to 12.10 and date/time dissapeared from menu bar it's not even in the settings anymore... Couldn't google anything abiut it, any idea?16:20
thelinuxboris-semat: Yes.16:20
dr_willismy copy of 'titanic' came with a free ditigal download.. that would only work if i used itunes.....16:21
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boris-sematdr_willis:  so what's the best software to use to do this then? I tried handbrake and none of my dvds play.16:21
Yakut!ot | dr_willis16:22
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k1lcmon. when will an op ban him. he is obviously trolling since hours. :(16:22
dr_willisi think handbreak works.. but i belive its  living ooon its past glory and reputation. i tend to just use k9copy or i think ogmrip  theres othere out also. or dvdfab in wine.16:23
dr_willisi dont rip a lot of stuff16:23
mneptokk1l: do try to keep up, dear.16:23
boris-sematdr_willis:  ok... I will give some others a shot. Thanks for your help!16:23
dr_williswhat i do rip is tv series i bought. so  some tools do that task better then others16:24
NET||abusearrg, ec2 is doing my head in,, adduser myuser tothisgroup    doesn't work16:24
NET||abuseuseradd -G groupname usertoadd says the user already exists..16:24
NET||abusehow do you add the existing user to another group?16:24
NET||abusedebian/ubuntu is just useradd username togroup as far as i remember16:24
boris-sematdr_willis:  my hope is to have a entertainment server using xbmc and mythbuntu so i can record live tv and have all of my dvds, music and photos on my tv16:25
ActionParsnipNET||abuse: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username16:25
NET||abuseahhh jeebus.16:25
NET||abusethank you :)16:25
NET||abusegoogle results just didn't give that to me.16:25
ActionParsnipNET||abuse: thats how I do it, works across the board :)16:25
Bier__is it possible to install windows games on ubuntu?16:25
ActionParsnipNET||abuse: man pages ;)16:25
ActionParsnipBier__: in wine, maybe16:25
dr_willisNET||abuse:  see a variant on this question about 3 times a week in here16:25
ActionParsnipBier__: some apps have native installers too16:25
k1lBier__: yes, take alook into wine and the wine appdb16:26
t4bWhy is there a >10GB big ".xsession-errors" file in my home-directory? Shouldn't that automatically be cleaned out now and again? Can I do something to get it to keep that file under a few hundred megabytes or so?16:26
zykotick9NET||abuse: careful with usermod!  that -a is SUPER important!16:26
savioBier__, use wine with playonlinux16:26
NET||abuseActionParsnip: had to know about usermod to even find the man page though :)16:26
Bier__ok i will16:26
ActionParsnipNET||abuse: true16:26
escottt4b, no... nothing would clean it out16:26
jribt4b: you should see what's in it :)16:26
Bier__i'd like to install hitman blood money16:26
ActionParsnipt4b: read the files, you are having issues in your x server16:26
ActionParsnipBier__: check the appdb16:26
ActionParsnipBier__: it shows the apps that work and don't work and how to make them work etc16:27
k1lBier__: take a look into the appdb to see if the game runs with wine and what exactly will or wont work16:27
auronandace!appdb | Bier__16:27
ubottuBier__: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help16:27
Bier__thank you16:27
NET||abuseexit16:28
savioBier__, there is great app on ubuntu software center "playonlinux" it just great it automates the installation of many steps like winetricks16:28
OsmodivsHello, is there an alternative for UnetBooting? I would use Unetbooting, but everytime I try to open it, my PC will log out.16:29
dr_willisOsmodivs:  the pendrivelinux site has dozens of alternatives16:29
t4bjrib, ActionParsnip: I looked into the file, it seems to mostly consist of errors thrown by nautilus and totem and other random errors thrown by programs I launched. It's not even all errors, there is also stuff which is labeled "info" or "warning". I don't find anything which is common about the stuff n there.16:30
dr_willislot out = back to the login screen?  thats 'X crashing' not logging out...   ;)16:30
auronandaceOsmodivs: you can also dd a ubuntu iso16:30
t4b*in16:30
Kinder-Pingviпривет.. проблема с флешплеером16:31
jribt4b: put the last thousand or so lines in a pastebin?16:31
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t4bjrib, okay16:31
Osmodivsdr_willis: Well, X is crashing a lot these past days16:31
auronandace!ru | Kinder-Pingvi16:31
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Kinder-Pingvithanks)16:31
ActionParsnipOsmodivs: 1 2 3 app from pendrive linux16:32
ActionParsnipOsmodivs: usb-creator in Ubuntu16:32
Bier__hm ubuntu update failed16:33
fellayaboyhey how can u resume a download instead of starting all over again using sftp terminal16:33
faydo you know why16:33
Bier__operation failed16:34
Bier__i will try again16:34
lixBier__: run "sudo do-release-update" in terminal16:34
ActionParsnipBier__: upgrade of the same release, or are you trying to get to the next release16:35
Bier__just updating16:35
ActionParsnip!aptfix | Bier__16:35
ubottuBier__: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:35
zykotick9Bier__: fyi lix's comment is to go to a new release of ubuntu, not just a system update16:35
ActionParsniplix: do-release-upgrade not needed dude...16:36
Bier__ah16:36
escottfellayaboy, you cant16:36
Bier__update not necessary?16:36
fayfellayaboy: use something like rsync next time16:36
FireStormsHi, I'm wondering if anyone has installed a HP printer before. I'm trying to install a HP DESKJET 2050A on Ubuntu 10.04. I'm using the CUPS Web Interface to manually select my printer to install, as the device is not being recognised automatically. The closest printer CUPS lists to my DESKJET 2050A is the DESKJET 2000. I tried the option but it didn't work. What can I do?16:36
lixActionParsnip: sorry. - must have misread Bier's issue...16:36
ActionParsniplix: ;)16:37
fellayaboywow ok..so what if i use sftp at the beginning will rsync pick up where sftp left off or do i have to use rsync from the beginning when transfering a file16:37
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fayfellayaboy: rsync from the beginning16:37
escottfellayaboy, yes16:37
fellayaboyohh well bye bye sftp its been a long journey16:37
ghostconnmy hdmi audio is not working any help?16:37
escottfellayaboy, if you have a partial file rsync can work from that16:37
t4bjrib, here: https://gist.github.com/ddfe5da4e3dd38b1237416:37
fellayaboyby partial file u mean a file thats imcomplete?16:38
escottfellayaboy, yes16:38
baldfatI am trying out Ubuntu from arch linux for kicks. WHERE the heck do I change the Xresources and Xdefaults? Do I have to create them manually and then change what for them to be read?16:38
fellayaboyok16:38
ActionParsnipFireStorms: is it a desktop OS?16:38
fellayaboythats good then thank u16:38
FireStormsActionParsnip, yes16:38
ghostconnhas anyone got their hdmi audio working with a sapphire hd 7770?16:39
jribt4b: Coin error in SoNode::GLRenderS(): GL error: 'GL_INVALID_OPERATION', nodetype: Separator (set envvar COIN_GLERROR_DEBUGGING=1 and re-run to get more information)16:39
jribt4b: what's that about?16:39
ActionParsnipFireStorms: Lucid desktop has little over 6 months support left. Is it worth it?16:39
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t4bjrib, haven't got a clue, I think it's probably a game I run which threw that one each render cycle or something like that.16:40
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Xix19help, I restarted my virtualbox, and now when I start it up it loads up until the login page but doesn't show any login options and I can't do anything16:40
jribt4b: ok well you can just delete ~/.xsession-errors if there's nothing obviously wrong16:40
Xix19the mouse moves ok but all I see is the login background16:40
ActionParsnipXix19: tried the boot option:  nomodeset16:41
Xix19ActionParsnip: how do I try it?16:41
zykotick9baldfat: re .Xdefaults, i have to use ~/.Xdefaults-YOURHOSTNAMEHERE to get it to work myself.  best of luck.16:41
baldfatzykotick9: thnaks16:42
baldfatzykotick9: that looks back@zzwards16:42
t4bjrib, just did so, I guess I'll see if it starts growing to those sizes again16:43
ghostconnmy hdmi audio is not working when i run aplay -l i get this ard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]16:43
ghostconn  Subdevices: 1/116:43
ghostconn  Subdevice #0: subdevice #016:43
ghostconncard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 3: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]16:43
ghostconn  Subdevices: 1/116:43
FloodBot1ghostconn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:43
ghostconn  Subdevice #0: subdevice #016:43
jribt4b: yeah, you probably have one app that just constantly throws out one of those messages.  google suggests maybe "freecad".  Do you use that?16:44
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zykotick9baldfat: i've actually asked about why the hostname was required - i was told to check the man page ;) sure enough, it's documented.  IMO it's a huge pain, 'cause you can't just transfer the file to new installs, must rename with box's hostname attached to the file :(16:44
OsmodivsIs there a way to "merge" 2 partitions in an USB memory stick? I need all the memory available, but currently it is divided in 2 partitions. I have GParted, but do not know how to use it.16:45
jribzykotick9, baldfat: can't you use ~/.Xresources ?16:46
escottOsmodivs, move the data off. delete one paritition. grow the other. move the data back16:46
zykotick9baldfat: see jrib's comment above.  i don't seem to use .Xresources (ie. not one on my install right now, so can't confirm)16:46
FireStormsActionParsnip, I see no reason to upgrade16:47
Osmodivsescott: That was easy, thx.16:48
PhoenixSTFi cant get my Ubuntu to work with my backlight keys one eeepc 1101HA, it is not changing the /sys/class/backlight/psb-lb/brightness, it's using the acpi/brightness instead, any workaround?16:48
ActionParsnipFireStorms: could try upgrading hplip using the run file from the hplip site16:49
ActionParsnipFireStorms: the newer versions of packages and such may make the printer just work16:49
savioanyone can help me with bugsqud i don't know what to do ?16:49
ActionParsnipPhoenixSTF: let me search16:50
ActionParsnipPhoenixSTF: try the boot option: poulsbo.blacklist=yes16:50
ActionParsnipPhoenixSTF: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/asus_eee_pc_1101   source16:51
ghostconndose anyone know how to update catalyst control center16:51
ActionParsnipPhoenixSTF: actually scratch that, add: acpi_backlight=vendor16:51
ActionParsnipghostconn: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade16:51
saxinHow can I find out information about the memory installed in a computer? Like how much ram, the speed of the ram etc.16:51
escottsaxin, dmidecode16:52
zykotick9saxin: "cat /proc/meminfo"16:52
ghostconnActionParsnip : I have already done those commands.. I have a ati hd7770 my hdmi audio shows up under sound setting/output but i get no sound??16:52
NahjilAnyone have an issue after installing, everything seems to go well and then after you enter your password your screen goes wonky with weird artifacts?16:52
zykotick9saxin: that's some of what you wanted.  for speed you'll probably need hwinfo (not a program i know)16:52
chucktewkslinux noob question --- if i want to install a CMS like Plone - what directory should it go under?  /usr/local?16:53
ActionParsnipghostconn: if you run: alsamixer   are all levels maxed and unmuted? If you press F6 in alsamxer  is the right output device set?16:53
jribbaldfat: from « man Xsession »: Note that $HOME/.Xdefaults is a relic from X Version 10 (and X11R1) days, before app-defaults files were implemented.  It has been deprecated for over ten years at the time of this writing.  .Xresources should be used instead.16:53
zykotick9chucktewks: IMO you should leave all of /usr to the system, my vote is to use /opt16:53
fellayaboyi have a question though...why is it that gui clients like firefox fireftp or filezilla have a resume but terminal based sftp doesnt16:54
jribfellayaboy: it doesn't?16:55
ActionParsnipfellayaboy: because they have coded it into the app.16:55
zykotick9chucktewks: i'm very conservative (old school unix) in my admin style.  see "man hier" for more official source of info ;)16:55
escottchucktewks, the way i have always done it is: if it installs to a monolithic folder then put it under /opt/PROGRAM_NAME. if it has a unix like layout (with /usr/bin and /usr/lib) then put it in /usr/local16:55
Forzaryeah one based on GUI  ,and the other based terminal..16:55
PhoenixSTFActionParsnip, actualy I tried all types of conbinations with these options acpi_osi=Linux (because i am having a bit of batery detection issue) acpi_backlight=vendor, poulsbo.blacklist=yes, eeepc.blacklist=yes16:56
fellayaboyso i guess all one has to do is modify the source code for sftp terminal16:56
jribchucktewks: I follow escott's approach too16:56
chucktewksthanks all16:56
ghostconnActionparsnip : i followed your command and have set the default sound to my hdmi via alsamixer noting is muted but still no sound yes my tv volume is up16:57
PhoenixSTFActionParsnip, all that acpi_backlight=vendor gets me is the recognition that I use the fn+f5/f6 keys, but it is always the psb-bl/brightness file that rules over the backlight, and the keys wont work on that file, they always work on the other one16:57
chucktewksis it common for a program to put itself under /usr/share?  (e.g. drupal)16:59
green91no16:59
ActionParsnipghostconn: if you run the 'sound' app in dash, is the right device set for output there?16:59
ActionParsnipPhoenixSTF: all I can suggest is report a bug. Do you have the latest BIOS?17:00
ghostconnActionParsnip: yes17:00
ghostconn:(17:01
PhoenixSTFActionParsnip, yes, bug was reported since 11.04 or 11.1017:01
ActionParsnipPhoenixSTF: gah17:01
escottchucktewks, if you dont configure otherwise look at ./configure --prefix and also use checkinstall17:02
ghostconnshould i maybe restart my pc after changing the default sound card through alsamixer?17:02
ActionParsnipghostconn: worth a shot17:02
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ghostconnsounds settings are set to hdmi out, volume is up on both tv and system, alsamixer set to HDA ATI Sb Realtek ALC889 nothing muted ( i turned off auto mute) STILL NO SOUND what could it be17:11
ghostconnActionParsnip : do you think it would be wise to install the post release update ati driver if I already have a working fglrx driver installed17:14
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cryptodirai have just upgraded to 11.10 and my fan is running constantly at full speed.... toshiba notebook amd components... in ALL of the previous versions  this has not happened.... solution?17:15
thelinuxcryptodira: Install Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10.17:16
zatan Hey can anyone advised me how can I fix this issue with maximize window? http://i.imgur.com/fiBT5.png  the bottom window is not maximised as he suppost to17:16
cryptodirathelinux; i suspected as much... thanks.17:16
compdocin 12.04.1, the PATH for my username doesnt include any of the sbin directories, so I cant run things like ifconfig without using sudo. possible to fix?17:17
jribcompdoc: umm, what's in your /etc/environment?17:18
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thelinuxzatan: How do you mean?17:19
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thelinuxzatan: I wasn't able to reproduce that bug.17:19
compdocjrib, the proper path is there. the one sudo uses17:20
compdocbut my path is less17:20
jribcompdoc: grep PATH ~/.profile ~/.*bash* ~/.pam*17:20
ghostconnis there a command to upgrade to 12:10?17:20
jrib!upgrade | ghostconn17:21
ubottughostconn: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade17:21
jribghostconn: also '.' is used, not ':' :)17:21
thelinuxghostconn: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.17:21
jribthelinux, ghostconn: that will *not* upgrade between releases17:22
ghostconnthank you :) .... and what do you mean it wont upgrade?17:22
jribghostconn: what's not clear? apt-get dist-upgrade is not the command you want.  See ubottu17:23
Summuntalking about that... when would you recommend an update to 12.10 or stay in the LTS version?17:23
compdocjrib, http://pastebin.com/E7UW3Z4d17:23
thelinuxghostconn: Or go to software sources, updates, check notify of new updates.  Go to update manager it should offer you download of Ubuntu.17:23
jribcompdoc: what is your PATH?  echo $PATH17:23
dr_willisSummun: depends on your needs17:24
thelinuxghostconn: You're using Ubuntu 12.04?17:24
ghostconnyes i am17:24
compdocits:  /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games17:24
Bier__can anyone help me install a snes emulator for ubuntu?  the one from the Ubuntu Software Center, NES ROM player does not work for me, crashes instantly after i click a rom17:24
jribcompdoc: how did you login?17:24
dr_willisSummun: i like playing with the latest stuff.. for a business i would stick to lts17:24
ghostconnjrib sorry i understand now i thought you were saying that by doing so it would not upgrade lol17:25
compdocremotely to vncserver17:25
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compdocjrib  ^17:25
thelinuxBier__: I might help you, I've used emulators.17:25
Summundr_willis, what about if i use it to work in the university, as a student, lts?17:25
Bier__i see one named Zsnes, but it displays not found17:25
dr_willisBier__: run it from a terminal. look for errors when it crashes17:25
dr_williszsnes at one time was 32 bit only... not sure if thats still the case17:26
jribcompdoc: does the same thing happen if you use ssh?17:26
dr_willis!info zsned17:26
ubottuPackage zsned does not exist in quantal17:26
dr_willis!info zsnes17:26
ubottuzsnes (source: zsnes): Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.510-2.2ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 893 kB, installed size 4108 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)17:26
thelinuxBier__: Look online for Zsnes emulator. And I'm not sure if even NES ROM would work, since I think it's meant for NES games not SNES.17:26
Congzsnes is the best emu ever.17:27
compdocjrib, hmm, the path is correct with ssh17:27
dr_williszsnes is super nes.17:27
thelinuxBier__: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install zsnes17:27
jribcompdoc: hmm, which vnc server is this?17:28
Bier__i get zsnes has no installation candidate17:28
compdocvnc4server17:28
thelinuxBier__: http://www.zsnes.com/17:29
Bier__yeah i have downloaded the tar file17:29
dr_willisBier__: you on 12.10?17:29
Bier__yes17:29
dr_willisweird.17:29
Bier__i have extracted the package but how do i launch it17:30
zykotick9Bier__: what is the output from "uname -m" on your system?17:30
thelinuxBier__: You need to compile it.17:30
Bier__x86_6417:31
thelinuxBier__: You sure there isn't zsnes in repositories, since I typed sudo apt-get install zsnes, it showed right away.17:31
dr_williszsnes installed fine here....17:31
dr_willisBier__: use the terminal. cd to the dir.     ./zsnes   perhaps17:31
Bier__when i look in software center it shows up17:31
Bier__but when i click on it it says17:32
zykotick9dr_willis: i'm guessing zsnes is failing to install for Bier__ due to the 32/64bit thing.17:32
dr_willis12.10 64 bit .. zsnes installed via apt-get17:32
Bier__"there isnt a software package called zsnes in your current software sources:17:32
zykotick9dr_willis: guess it's something else then ;)17:32
thelinuxBier__ dr_willis: I have 32 bit, and it can install here too.17:32
dr_willis!info zsnes17:32
ubottuzsnes (source: zsnes): Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.510-2.2ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 893 kB, installed size 4108 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)17:32
Bier__so i go to edit > software sources and check all17:32
dr_willisuniverse repo not enabled?17:33
Bier__i dont follow17:33
jribcompdoc: I'm not familiar with vnc4server, have you done any special configuration for it?17:33
compdocno, but this gives me a clue now - thanks17:33
doomlordcan ubuntu do ARGB transparency for gtk elements17:33
dr_willisbe sure  thh universe reposity is enabled   Bier__17:33
thelinuxBier__: Go to software sources, Ubuntu software tab, and check all there.17:33
CaBahi17:34
Bier__i have theLinux17:34
jribcompdoc: ok good luck.  You can always work around it of course by using ~/.profile.  But if you want to get to the bottom of the issue, I guess you have to investigate more17:34
thelinuxBier__: Change "download from" to different server.17:34
XiaYixuanhi17:34
doomlordq2 does ubuntu officially not support NVidia GT640 (i got some later drivers, i get multiple screens, compiz fails, but gl apps work)17:34
compdocjrib, I can just add a path in ~/.profile?17:34
dr_willisBier__: sudo apt-get update  and try again to install it.17:35
systemclientsay I installed the beta of 12.10 and installed all upgrades. Do I now have the regular stable version?17:35
dr_willissystemclient: yes17:35
zykotick9!final | systemclient17:35
ubottusystemclient: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Quantal and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.10 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.17:35
thelinuxsystemclient: If upgrade was sucessfull, you should than.17:35
systemclientdr_willis: zykotick9 thelinux thanks!17:36
yotein terminal how do I check to see what is my current desktop environment17:36
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thelinuxBier__: Did you change the server from software sources and tried to download it? Please post results here.17:37
Bier__yes theLinux, im trying the update now17:37
dr_williscat      .dmrc        perhaps yote17:37
dr_willisbut theres no gurantees17:37
yotethanks17:38
thelinuxyote: ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/17:38
Bier__sill not found17:38
Bier__Package zsnes is not available, but is referred to by another package.17:39
Bier__This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or17:39
Bier__is only available from another source17:39
Bier__E: Package 'zsnes' has no installation candidate17:39
Bier__in terminal17:39
Bier__and in software center:17:39
Bier__There isn’t a software package called “zsnes” in your current software sources.17:39
Jim_I have a boot problem with Ubuntu. I have a laptop HP Pavilion G7 with a AMD APU A8 4500m. Ican't boot from CD and can't install ubuntu. What can I do?17:40
McPeterhi17:40
systemclientJim_: did you set it in the BIOS to boot from CD?17:40
yotethanks thelinux17:40
yoteitworked17:40
McPeterhow change language in webalizer please ?17:40
ghostconni tried using the command     sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ....... to upgrade my version from 12.04 to 12.10 and 0ugrades available17:40
Jim_Yes I can boot from cd. After I got the cd menu it's stop working17:40
XiaYixuanis kubuntu ubuntu?17:41
systemclientJim_: you mean the bootloader where you can select the various boot options and language?17:41
systemclientXiaYixuan: yes, but with KDE instead of Unity17:41
XiaYixuankk17:41
systemclientXiaYixuan: try #kubuntu as well17:41
Bier__so how do i use the zsnes tar package i downloaded17:41
McPeteri install it on ubuntu server 12.04 … : Webalizer V2.01-10 (Linux 3.2.0-32-generic) locale: fr_FR.UTF-817:41
McPeterbut it's not in fr :\17:41
Jim_yes that bootloader17:41
systemclientJim_: hmm … that is strange17:41
XiaYixuanubuntu is only unity? no gnome anymore?17:41
McPeterXiaYixuan, Unity is on Gnome (3)17:42
thelinuxBier__: TRy this, go to software sources, other software tab, and check independent repositories if they aren't.17:42
XiaYixuan:(17:42
systemclientXiaYixuan: nope, the last version with Gnome 2 was 11.10 I think17:42
XiaYixuankk17:42
thelinuxyote: No problem.17:42
systemclientXiaYixuan: there is an Ubuntu Gnome Remix with Gnome 317:42
Jim_First I have tried Ubuntu studio and there I got the same problem than in Ubuntu17:42
McPeterXiaYixuan, maybe you search Gnome-Panel or Gnome-Shell17:42
systemclientXiaYixuan: but you can just install gnome3 in regular Ubuntu17:42
thelinuxBier__: Check those independent from other sources, than sudo apt-gte update from terminal and try to install now.17:42
XiaYixuanif gnome is set to devastating then I don' t care17:42
XiaYixuanKubuntu will be fine17:43
kostkonXiaYixuan, unity is a shell for gnome. unity is gnome17:43
thelinuxsystemclient: Ubuntu 11.0417:43
XiaYixuanI don't like the left side of unity17:43
Bier__theLinux: in that tab i see only a cd, probably my install cd17:43
Bier__for ubuntu17:43
XiaYixuanso cumbersome17:43
Congunity is a plugin for compiz17:43
McPeterXiaYixuan, try Gnome-Xhell ..or Gnome-Panel17:43
Bier__and its checked17:43
McPeterGnome-Panel same GUI for Gnome217:43
McPeters/Xhell/Shell17:44
thelinuxXiaYixuan: If you don't like Unity, try MATE, it's fork of gnome 2.x.17:44
XiaYixuanthelinux, no thanks. I don't like old stuff that much17:44
McPeterjust install gnome-panel if you search old interface17:44
Jim_I think it's my AMD APU that is the problem. Is Amd A8 4500m supported in ubuntu?17:45
thelinuxXiaYixuan: It isn't old, it's constantly updating with a wide and large community.17:45
dr_willisof course the gmome fallback mode is set to get phased out in the future...17:46
kostkonthelinux, it is destined to die eventually, when all the major gtk2/gnome2 apps are converted to gtk3/gnome317:46
kostkonwill convert*17:47
jribcompdoc: sure, you can just define it there17:47
dr_willisfor old school look. i use lxde17:47
spindritfcan I put /var/run on a ramdisk (tmpfs)?17:47
McPeterany for weblizer ? :)17:47
jribcompdoc: assuming vnc4server likes /that/ file :)17:47
thelinuxBier__: You're missing repositories I guess.17:47
systemclientJim_: maybe you have some luck here: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification17:48
ghostconn 12:10 will i loose all my setting and torrent downloading?17:48
dr_willisspindritf: i thought it allready was... let me look.17:48
thelinuxkostkon: Not really. They plan to port it to Gtk317:48
ghostconnby upgrading to 12:10 will i loose all my settings17:48
Bier__any way to fix that?17:48
thelinuxghostconn: No.17:49
kostkonthelinux, hmm ok17:49
ghostconnthank you17:49
spindritfdr_willis, not on my ubuntu 12.10 64bit install, I know I can move /tmp and /var/log to memory, but I also see /var/run being used by some apps a little too much17:49
xanguaBier__: you were already told it may be because you use 64bit and znes is only aviable for 32bit17:49
dr_willismy /run is on tmpfs here17:49
ghostconn32bit sucks17:49
thelinuxBier__: Yes. You just need to add those missing repositories. I'll help you, let me check.17:49
Bier__yeah that could be xangua17:50
thelinuxghostconn: Why?17:50
ghostconnperformance17:50
ghostconnmulticore lol17:50
Bier__i think its 32 bit only17:51
thelinuxBier__: Go to software sources, other software tab, add source: deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main17:51
dr_willisi just installed   zsnes in 64 bit ubuntu17:52
thelinuxdr_willis Bier__ He was missing other software repositories.17:52
XiaYixuanhi17:52
XiaYixuandoesn't work :(17:52
crazydiphow do i play 3D HSBS video on Ubuntu?17:52
XiaYixuanusb-startup-gtk17:52
XiaYixuanusb-creator-gtk*17:53
spindritfdr_willis, you're right, /run is on tmpfs, my mistake17:53
thelinuxXiaYixuan: Which version of ubuntu you have?17:53
XiaYixuan12.0417:53
XiaYixuanthe gui is different17:53
thelinuxXiaYixuan: You can use unetbootin as alternative.17:53
anhducdasdasdas17:53
philux-Gevreybonsoir17:53
philux-Gevreyje cherche à monter ma galaxy tab 10.1 sur ubuntu 12.1017:54
compdocjrib, this works: to .profile I added at the bottom:  PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin; export PATH17:54
anhduccan you speak vietnamese17:54
philux-Gevreyj'ai lu plusieurs trucs à ce sujet sur internet, mais la plupart sont assez vieux17:54
thelinuxphilux-Gevrey: English please.17:54
SwedeMike!fr17:54
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.17:54
eagerhi all17:54
philux-Gevreyoh sorry17:54
philux-GevreyThought was ubuntu-fr ?17:54
philux-GevreyI thought I was on ubuntu-fr17:54
Bier__theLinux: after that, it's still not found in software center, going to try with terminal now17:54
thelinuxphilux-Gevrey: #ubuntu-qc17:55
lixphilus-Gevrey: t'as essaye http://galaxytabhacks.com/galaxy-tab-10-1-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-galaxy-tab-10-1-tabuntu/17:55
philux-Gevreywell, I stil can ask17:55
eageri'd like to access the system settings dialog (graphic) with root privileges. How can I do that?17:55
Bier__also nope17:55
thelinuxBier__: Do sudo apt-get update17:55
eageris there a terminal command?17:55
ikoniaeager: why ?17:55
philux-Gevreylix, merci/thanks17:55
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ikoniaeager: the parameters are normally per user17:55
XiaYixuansee ya17:55
ikonia!away > obli-AWAY17:55
ubottuobli-AWAY, please see my private message17:55
eagerI'm fighting the keybard layout chinese bug (12.04)17:56
philux-Gevreylix, it's for hnoeycomb, not ICS17:56
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ikoniaeager: again, why do you need root for that ?17:56
eagerikonia: I'm fighting the keybard layout chinese bug (12.04)17:56
ikoniaeager: keyboard layout is for a user17:56
Bier__theLinux: still no17:56
lixphilus-Gevrey: I see. - let me check17:56
doomlordmanually adding "PPA" ... what am i supposed to do with the signing key17:56
ikonia!ppa | doomlord17:56
ubottudoomlord: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:56
hilohello, I am trying to set up vsftp as a secure FTP server and was hoping to get a little direction. In particular, the general guide specifies enabling "chroot_local_user=YES" for security, but in the example conf file, it has a warning about potential risks of enabling that option. Can anyone shed some light here for me? Or point me in the direction of a more complete guide?17:57
eagerikonia: there is a minus sign for removing chinese language, but it's gray... I figured if I was root... maybe I could use it :)17:57
lixphilux-Gevrey: you just want to mount the tab, not installing ubuntu on it, right?17:57
philux-Gevreylix right17:57
ikoniaeager: I don' think so17:57
eagerikonia: but I get the per user thing17:58
eager:(17:58
philux-GevreyI can see it on nautilus, but not dl files from it17:58
doomlordi've thrown some extra lines into my sources list "deb http://ppa.launch......"  ; i did sudo-apt-get update, it says something about some signatures not being vrified NO_PUBKEY... there's "signing key" on the site tellimg me to do this, but no instrutction of what to do tiwht it17:58
ikoniahilo: what is the line17:58
doomlordhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates17:58
lixphilux-Gevrey: maybe this does help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146529/how-to-connect-mtp-devices-via-usb17:58
doomlord<trying to get GT640 working>17:58
eagerikonia: do anyone know how can I purge chinese locale?17:58
hiloikonia, "chroot_local_user=YES"17:58
ikoniadoomlord: did you read the link I gave you17:58
hiloikonia, by default it is commented out.17:58
doomlordah silly me17:58
ikoniahilo: so ?17:59
doomlordnow i see something17:59
philux-Gevreylix i'll check this thks17:59
ikoniahilo: uncomment it if you want to use it17:59
lixphilux-Gevrey: and/or this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1156122717:59
hiloikonia, "See the FAQ for17:59
hilo# the possible risks in this before using chroot_local_user"17:59
ikoniahilo: have you read the FAQ ?18:00
thelinuxBier__:  Go to that extracted zsnes download with terminal cd /location of zsnes/ than go to src, cd src, than "sudo ./configure", "sudo make", "sudo make install"18:00
lixphilux-Gevrey: this also looks like a good blog article: https://technomagus.wordpress.com/mobile/phones/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000/samsung-galaxy-s-synchronization/18:00
lixphilux-Gevrey: looks like you just need to mount as vfat18:01
philux-Gevreysadly, gmpt freeze on my laptop18:01
eagerboys, any idea how to __purge chinese locale__ ? (12.04)18:01
hiloikonia, Yes, and all I see is something about symlinks18:01
ikoniahilo: ok, so there you go18:01
dr_willisBier__:  my sources.list that had zsnes -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1351277/18:03
dr_willisunless im confused and it came from a ppa. ;)18:04
eagerboys, where can I erase CHINESE locale's dictionaries?18:04
dr_willischrooting can break symlinks, or symlinks could let you get out of a chroot... ;) perhaps  hilo18:05
eagerI get lots of chinese (12.04)18:05
Bier__theLinux: deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main18:05
Bier__oops18:05
Bier__wrong text18:05
Bier__configure error: you need NASM install to compile zsnes18:05
eagerkeyboard layout settings is buggy, but as a workaround I'd like to purge chinese dictionaries, so it falls back to English18:06
eagerplease18:06
vikiNewa: hi.....my vi editor is not working properly18:07
dr_willisBier__:  so install nasm?18:07
thelinuxeager: system settings, language support. You can delete it from there buddy.18:07
dr_willis!find nasm18:07
ubottuFound: nasm18:07
dr_willisBier__:  or try my sources.list18:07
zykotick9viki: install vim, if you want arrow keys to work ;)18:07
dr_willisvim tiny  vs vim 'full' differances. ;)18:08
Bier__i wll try your list dr_willis18:08
vikizykotick9:  what about backspace18:08
zykotick9viki: try vim ;)18:08
thelinuxeager: Did that work?18:08
vikizykotick9: ok ....thanx for suggestion .....i am going to try it...18:09
eagerthelinux: I can't, since it has not checked: nothing to uncheck (it is a known bug)18:09
dr_willisi dont recall needing to install vim/vim-full in ages on a new install.18:09
thelinuxBier__: sudo apt-get install nasm. And try to compile again zsnes.18:09
Bier__i dont understand what to do with that list18:10
hilodr_willis, thanks. How do I use the nopriv_user to lock this down? If I create a new user, what do I need to do to make sure it is safely unprivileged18:10
eagerthelinux: only English and Hungarian are checked, therefore I cannot remove one from chinese's18:10
Bier__ah i typed NASM instead of nasm18:10
Bier__installing now18:11
dr_willishilo:  no idea. i dont bother with chrooting to lock them down18:11
dr_willisi bet zsnes will need more stuff installed to compile properly18:12
ActionParsnipBier__: zsnes is in the playdeb repo....18:12
stepheltoni need to install a recent version of lightdm on 12.04. currently lightdm version 1.2.1 is available via apt-get. i'm told the version I want (1.4.0) is available in Quantal. what's the easiest way to obtain the later version?18:12
vikizykotick9: what command should i use to enter in editor mode in vim18:12
dr_willisstephelton:  why do you need a newer version?18:12
zykotick9viki: i?18:12
dr_willis!info vim-tutor18:13
ubottuPackage vim-tutor does not exist in quantal18:13
stepheltondr_willis: vim --help will tell you... or man vim18:13
dr_willishmm.. what is that vi tutor program...18:13
stepheltondr_willis: er wrong person. i need a bug fix18:13
MasterOfDisasterhi, I'd like to use Terminus as my terminal's (KDE's konsole) font. The option 'draw intense colors in bold font' doesn't have any effect on Terminus, despite it having a bold variant. Other fonts respect this, Any idea why?18:13
dr_willisstephelton:  best way sould to see if its in backports or find a ppa18:14
vikizykotick9:  no...i meant to say ...as we use vi...in vi editor ...is same in vim18:14
MasterOfDisastersystem in question runs ubuntu 12.0418:14
stepheltondr_willis: can i use quantal ppa? if not, i might as well just compile from source...18:14
ActionParsnipBier__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc18:14
vikihow to enter in vim editor18:14
MasterOfDisasterviki: press 'i'18:14
zykotick9viki: once you install vim, then typing both vi and vim will most likely start the same thing.18:14
dr_willisstephelton:  not a good idea to mix release repos18:14
keyurPlease some one help me with ssh18:15
keyur:(18:15
ActionParsnipBier__: are you wanting zsnes?18:15
MasterOfDisasterviki: hitting ESC exits insert mode18:15
stepheltondr_willis: not a good idea to mix any non-standard repos IMO18:15
ActionParsnipkeyur: what is the issue?18:15
MasterOfDisasterkeyur: elaborate18:15
zykotick9dr_willis: vimtutor appears to be part of vim-runtime package18:15
keyuri m having access to one server18:15
dr_willisah no dash ;)18:15
Bier__theLinux installing nasm gets met: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab18:15
stepheltondr_willis: can i convince the system to pull a single package from the quantal repo?18:15
keyurwhich is based on rsa public key authenication18:15
Bier__ActionParsnip: not per se, i just want to play snes roms :p18:15
dr_willisstephelton:  i dont think so18:15
keyurso i given them my public key18:15
keyurand now when i m joining18:16
Bier__theLinux: and the sub-proc18:16
ActionParsnipBier__: then you'll need an emulator, what is the output of the command please18:16
keyurit says18:16
keyurPermission denied (publickey).18:16
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stepheltondr_willis: the annoying thing is that this newer version will probably be available in 12.04 in a matter of days... \=18:16
keyur:(18:16
keyurcould some one help me please18:16
keyur:(18:16
Bier__theLinux sub-process /ussr/bin/dpkg returned an error code18:16
MasterOfDisasterkeyur: can you use password authentication?18:16
vikizykotick9: but  when i type vi..than i'll enter in vi editor18:16
dr_willisstill not sure why Bier__  repos dont include zsnes..18:16
keyurno :(18:16
Bier__actionparsnip: quantal18:16
keyurthere is no password authenication18:16
Bier__dr_willis: what do i do with that list?18:17
MasterOfDisasterkeyur: are you sure your ssh-agent is sending the correct key?18:17
keyuryes18:17
zykotick9viki: when you type "vim" is there a VIM - Vi IMproved splash screen?18:17
dr_willisBier__:  its my /etc/apt/sources.list   compare it to yours18:17
keyurcould come on private chat18:17
MasterOfDisasterkeyur: debugged it yet with ssh -vv?18:17
keyurso i could explain you better18:17
MasterOfDisasterkeyur: ok18:17
dr_willisBier__:  or rename yours and copy mine over. then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, then sudo apt-get install zsnes18:18
dr_willisupgrade may not be needed. ;) update is...18:18
dr_willisas far as i know thats a default 12.10 sources.list18:19
ActionParsnipBier__: wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo apt-get update18:19
rickbhey can i ask a generic linux question?18:19
ActionParsnipBier__: then run:   sudo apt-get install bsnes18:20
ActionParsniprickb: as long as its ubuntu related, yes18:20
rickbcan someone tell me the string i'd have to use to rename files with a  _1 before hte file extension? i want to make something like FL123TS_1.jpg to just FL123TS.jpg18:20
rickb:318:20
ActionParsnipBier__: after you add that ppa (via the deb) you can install apps using the buttons on the playdeb site18:21
rickbActionParsnip: right above, didn't hilight you sry.18:21
ActionParsniprickb: I'd ask in #bash18:21
hiloHow do I create an unprivileged user to run applications in chroot jail?18:21
dr_willisgotta love web apt: urls18:21
rickbah ok18:21
ActionParsniprickb: or there is a rename app in the repos (if memory serves)18:21
ikoniahilo: you just create a non-root user18:21
ActionParsnipdr_willis: handy :)18:22
ActionParsnipdr_willis: its how I got urban terror18:22
dr_willishilo:  why do you need to go the extra step of a chroot jail?18:22
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rickbActionParsnip: ah yeah i can do the stuff locally but its on a remote serer18:22
rickbserver18:22
hilodr_willis, I am creating an internet facing FTP server and and don't want to leave any open doors18:22
dr_willisrickb:  i tend to use 'qmv' from the rename-utils package. but its a bit more complex then what you need. but its handy18:23
jpdshilo: Then, remove FTP.18:23
ikoniajpds: bravo18:23
rickbcool18:23
hilolulz jpds18:23
dr_willisa ftp user dosent run apps... or am i missing somthing18:23
hiloThe goal is to have it FTPS (FTP over SSL)18:23
yon_hello out there18:23
hiloCan you suggest a better option?18:24
ActionParsniprickb: its the same on a server18:24
dr_willisssh/sftp?18:24
hilodr_willis, ssh/sftp requires users with shell access. Isn't that a way way bigger security risk?18:24
jpdshilo: No bigger security risk than FTP.18:24
dr_willishilo:  theres ways to  have sftp only users i belive.18:25
hilodr_willis, I read that FTPS was better because users can be given nologin shell18:25
dr_williswith no shell access18:25
ikoniahilo: that has nothing to do with ftps, ftp servers can do that18:25
rickbah ok18:27
dr_willishttp://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/18:27
Bier__actionparsnip: after install bsnes i get: /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)18:28
ActionParsnipBier__: is that when trying to install the bsnes package?18:28
redhogs91ciao18:28
redhogs91!lista18:28
hilodr_willis, ikonia, is there any kind of guide or howto?18:28
ubotturedhogs91: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:28
ActionParsnipBier__: try:  sudo apt-get -f install18:28
Bier__yes18:28
redhogs91sorry18:28
Bier__dr_willis: i dont have permission to edit the sources.list18:29
yon_speak english18:29
dr_williswhat? an actual reply from a caio !list er? ;) how rare18:29
ikoniayes, we speak English18:29
VlanXvery bad bug found causing SSD death!  gnome-settings-daemon writes 20Mbps to the disk for no reason in 12.10, please ack!18:29
ActionParsnipVlanX: are there bugs reportd?18:29
jpdsVlanX: Sounds like a problem only affecting you.18:29
ikoniaVlanX: please ack ?18:29
ActionParsnipBier__: does the apt-get -f install make it ok?18:30
VlanXhttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?20377-Truly-bad-gnome-settings-daemon-pulseaudio-causing-laptop-HDD-death18:30
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ikoniaVlanX: is that you posting that ?18:30
VlanXnope18:30
Bier__actionparsnip: unable to lock the administration directory18:30
ActionParsnip!aptfix | Bier__18:30
ubottuBier__: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:30
jpdsVlanX: Dude, that's for Fedora.18:30
zatan Hey can anyone advised me how can I fix this issue with maximize window? http://i.imgur.com/fiBT5.png  the bottom window is not maximised as he suppost to18:30
ikoniaVlanX: then why are you quoting it ? is it affecting you ?18:30
jpdsVlanX: Please don't spread FUD/nonsense.18:30
VlanXjpds: it's the same problem18:31
ikoniafedora 11 ???18:31
ikoniaVlanX: how do you know ?18:31
ikoniaVlanX: is this problem affecting you ?18:31
Bier__actionparsnip: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process18:31
VlanXikonia: yes it is, i killed the process and all went ok18:31
dr_willisikonia:  ;) i stopped reading after it mentioned fedora and head parking18:31
ikoniaVlanX: "all went ok" what symptoms where you seeing18:32
jpdsVlanX: Has your disk died on 12.10?18:32
ikoniaVlanX: you need to explain the issue18:32
dr_willisBier__:  be sure software center and other apps are closed18:32
ikoniaVlanX: the issue YOU are seeing18:32
ActionParsnipBier__: or reboot18:32
VlanXikonia: i'm using Gkrellm so i saw 20 mbps writes to my ssd that were going on since i don't know when18:33
jpdsVlanX: Hmm.18:33
VlanXand the cause was this process gone crazy18:33
dr_willisisent that thread dated 2009?18:33
ikoniaVlanX: if you are genuinly concerned about it, monitor with iostat, and log a bug agaist it18:33
ikoniadr_willis: yes, hence why I suspect it's not happening18:33
dr_willis;)18:33
VlanXikonia: so why as soon as i killed  gnome-settings-daemon it suddently stopped?18:34
VlanXwhy is it doing that in the first place?18:34
ikoniaVlanX: do what I suggested18:34
VlanXok18:35
VlanXikonia: can i also kill a process with iostat if it exceedes some threshold of cpu utilization or hdd wirtes?18:36
ikoniaVlanX: no18:36
bekksNo.18:36
ikoniaVlanX: cpu utilizaion ???? where did that come from, you said hard disk writes a minute ago18:36
VlanXikonia: do you think that i could realize which process it was if it didn't also chomp half of the CPU time?18:37
ikoniaVlanX: so now it's eating disk and cpu time18:37
yon_ubuntu sucks18:37
ikoniayon_: do'nt use it18:38
VlanXikonia: i couldn't care less about the cpu, but i'm concerned about SSD writes18:38
yon_i cant18:38
ikoniaVlanX:18:38
jpdsVlanX: Better turn off your computer then...18:38
bekksVlanX: Why? Isnt a SSD designed to write things, too?18:38
yon_i cant that too18:39
bekksVlanX: If so, mount the FS read-only...18:39
doomlordanyone here got a gt640 or similar working in ubuntu?18:39
doomlordfor compiz (it works in ubuntu2d)18:39
VlanXbekks: two hours of continuous SSD wirtes @ 20mbps? have fun with that18:39
bekksVlanX: Works for years here, currently.18:39
bekksVlanX: I have much more constant writes here, when doing things.18:39
akashj87Hi All ... My corporate setup has some issues with SSLCipherSuite and cookie generation ....can this stuff be discussed in this channel ?18:40
VlanXbekks:  well, pardon me but i would prefer not having useless ssd activity going on in the background18:40
bekksVlanX: My activity is usefull... like deploying VMs massively, etc.18:40
ActionParsnipVlanX: if you make a fresh user, is it ok there?18:40
jpdsVlanX: Find out what's causing that activity and please don't spread FUD about something you don't know what you're talking about.18:40
jpdsVlanX: 20Mbps is not normal behaviour, on an SSD or HDD.18:41
yon_i hate ubuntu18:41
bekksVlanX: So whats causing your I/O then?18:41
dr_willisiostat is not showing anything odd here.18:41
VlanX bekks: gnome-settings-daemon like i told18:41
MasterOfDisasterakashj87: well, it's your discretion not to spill any information that could be used against you or your corp. so, sure, go ahead.18:41
ActionParsnipVlanX: if you make a fresh user, is it ok there?18:42
yon_hey ikonia u didnt as me why i hated ubuntu18:42
bekksVlanX: Tried using a fresh user or using another desktop environment?18:42
Bier__ok thank you all i will reboot now, but then i have to cook so i will try later18:42
MasterOfDisasterakashj87: although, if you think it is not ubuntu-specific, you'd perhaps be better off in ##linux18:42
ikoniayon_: not interested, stop now18:42
VlanXActionParsnip: i don't know it just happened18:42
dr_willisVlanX:  you have searched the bug reports?18:43
VlanXdr_willis: i'm doing that right now18:43
akashj87sure ty MasterOfDisaster18:44
jpdsVlanX: Does it regularly happen?18:44
VlanXjpds: i hope not, maybe it did but i don't have any track of that18:44
VlanXi was just lucky to notice18:44
ikoniaVlanX: just VlanX http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1351389/18:44
bekksVlanX: So it didnt happen for hours now, correct?18:45
jpdsVlanX: Then it could of just been a one-off thing.18:45
VlanXbekks: it did because i noticed the red led of hdd activity some hours ago, but didn't bother looking what it was18:45
yon_ubuntu doesnt work well with iphones18:46
faylol no shit sherlock ^18:46
bekksyon_: It works well, here.18:46
ikoniayon_: linux doesn't work well with iphones, nothing ubuntu can do about it18:46
ActionParsnipVlanX: run:  sudo adduser testy      set a password for testy, log off and then log in as testy from the login screen. Is it the same?18:46
ikoniafay: the language is unaccetable, please stop18:46
ikoniaVlanX: I'm monitoring my disk and not seeing any activity18:46
yon_what tool does it have18:47
ikonia1iphone | yon_18:47
ikonia!iphone | yon_18:47
ubottuyon_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod18:47
VlanXActionParsnip, ikonia, i'm not telling it happens as soon as you log on your account, just happened randomly without m eeven doing anything.  Maybe just remote desktop, that's all18:47
yon_not music or something else i am talking about the root filesystem cydia apps18:47
ikoniaVlanX: I've been logged in for approx 4 hours now18:48
ikoniayon_: the iphone is locked to non-apple managment, so please stop wasting time with this dribble18:48
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ikoniayon_: this is your last warning.18:48
fayyon_, is your ipod jailbroken? if yes, use ssh to access those files18:48
bekks018:49
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bekkssorry.18:49
ActionParsnipVlanX: but this is your original account with your settings...right?18:49
VlanXActionParsnip: yes it is18:49
yon_fuse doesnt work correctly on linux18:50
ActionParsnipVlanX: so, if your settings are causing the issue, making a fresh user with default zero settings will test that, won't it18:50
ActionParsnipVlanX: then we will know if it is actually the application itself, or some setting you have that is causing the issue18:50
fayikonia, you need to relax a little...this is irc...not congress18:50
dr_willisfuse has always worked well for me.18:51
ikoniafay: please concern yourself with your own behaviour18:51
VlanXActionParsnip: but if it happened just for 2 hours in 7 days uptime, at least afaik, how can i troubleshoot that?18:51
ActionParsnipVlanX: you need to explore the situatoin, see what makes it happen and not happen18:51
fayikonia: wasnt aware i was misbehaving, some one asked a question, i answered18:51
ubuntuaddictedis there an equivalent to the disk utility for a headless server?18:51
ikoniafay: I didn't say you where misbehaving18:52
ActionParsnipubuntuaddicted: what do you want to achieve?18:52
bekksubuntuaddicted: iotop, du18:52
ubuntuaddictedbekks, i want to keep on an eye on a hard drive bad sector count18:52
VlanXActionParsnip: it might be remote desktop, however, how can i know which files was it writing?  with iostat?18:52
bekksubuntuaddicted: then use smartctl18:52
ActionParsnipVlanX: or:  lsof18:52
ubuntuaddictedActionParsnip, smartmontools isn't working18:52
fayubuntuaddicted: just ssh into that box with X forwarding and run disk utility from there18:52
ubuntuaddictedbekks, it isn't working18:52
bekksubuntuaddicted: "isnt working" means?=18:53
ActionParsnipubuntuaddicted: if it has ANY, I'd just replace it18:53
ubuntuaddictedbekks, it states Error Counter logging not supported and Device does not support Self Test logging18:53
bekksubuntuaddicted: So it works perfectly.18:53
bekksubuntuaddicted: Your drive does not support those features then.18:53
ubuntuaddictedActionParsnip, it's only 2 years old, 1TB drive18:53
fayso?18:54
ActionParsnipubuntuaddicted: then it's under warranty more than likely18:54
ubuntuaddictedbekks, then how does disk utility get it's info?18:54
ubuntuaddictedActionParsnip, I guess I should look into that. It has 379 bad sectors18:54
bekksubuntuaddicted: Error counter logging is irrelevant for the bad sector count.18:54
bekksubuntuaddicted: Just use smartctl -a18:54
ubuntuaddictedbekks, what smartctl command to run then?18:54
ubuntuaddictedbekks, that reports the same thing18:54
bekksubuntuaddicted: 379 bad sectors? Throw it away, honestly.18:55
ubuntuaddictedbekks, smartctl -a shows SMART Health Status: OK18:55
bekksubuntuaddicted: And...?18:55
bekksubuntuaddicted: You have bad sectors. Replace that drive.18:56
ActionParsnipubuntuaddicted: yikes, definately take that back18:56
toastcfhhi18:56
ubuntuaddictedActionParsnip, bekks ok, thanks for the input18:56
ubuntuaddictedActionParsnip, bekks i just thought there was a smartctl command I could run that showed the same thing that disk utility showed18:57
ikoniaVlanX: I've just remote desktop'ed into my own machine and see no difference18:57
VlanXikonia: i used it too in the past and it happened only now18:58
ubuntuaddictedActionParsnip, bekks can you run sudo badblocks -v /dev/sde when the drive is mounted?19:00
bekksubuntuaddicted: You can, but you should not... you have chances to frag your filesystem entirely.19:00
ubuntuaddictedbekks, okm thanks19:01
ikoniaubuntuaddicted: you know it has problems....send it back19:01
ikoniawhy are you making this hard19:01
roach_salogin roach_sa19:01
doomlordcan anyone confirm if they have a geforce 640 or similar card working with ubuntu (12.10 install process did advise me not to :( but i'm seeing ppa patches etc around)19:01
roach_saoops wrong place19:01
roach_sa:(19:01
ikoniadoomlord: follow the insall processs19:01
ubuntuaddictedikonia, trouble is, it came within an iomega nas box and I took it out and put it within a usb external enclosure so I voided warrenty19:02
ikoniaubuntuaddicted: right, so back it up and bin it the19:02
ikoniathe19:02
ikoniathen19:02
ikoniaubuntuaddicted: apply common sense.....it has a problem, the more manpipulation you do with it, the great the risk of data loss19:02
ikoniawhy is it always like pulling teeth with you19:02
ubuntuaddictedikonia, yeah, i guess but i thought you could mark bad blocks as unusable and if the bad sector count doesn't rise then its ok to use19:03
bekksubuntuaddicted: Totally wrong.19:03
ikoniaubuntuaddicted: it's got a fault19:03
ubuntuaddicted379 bad sectors on a 1TB drive isn't that many i didn't think19:03
bekksThats 379 bad blocks to much.,19:04
bekksReplace that drive.19:04
ubuntuaddictedk, thanks guys.19:04
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patr|ckhello. i changed with compizconfig-settings-manager the values for "horizontal virtual size" and for "vertical" desktop size from "2" to "3" but the changes wont take effect. not even after a reboot. why?19:06
endguypatr|ck: Maybe it's not an effect you can "see"19:07
patr|ckthis "effect" allows me to have 9 instead of 4 virtual desktops to switch from/to19:07
dr_willisfor the number of desktops? dosent unity need it to be square19:07
lacrymologyhow do i list the files in a deb package? particuarily, I want to know what's the binary that gets installed from calibre-bin19:07
patr|ckhere on the laptop i have 3x219:08
patr|ckerrr19:08
patr|ck3x319:08
endguydr_willis: You have a point :-)19:08
dr_willisisent there a     X x Y   setting?)19:08
patr|ckbut lets try 4x419:08
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louiemathow do you share folders (documents) from another system on the same computer- thanks in advance19:08
endguyTRY IT FOR SCIENCE!19:08
patr|cknegative, 3x3 or 4x4 makes no difference19:09
ikoniaplease stop19:09
dr_willislouiemat: what os on each system19:09
louiemat12.04 ubuntu19:09
lacrymologyit's not science unless it leaves a crater19:09
dr_willislouiemat: samba. ssh. sshfs. nfs19:09
louiematand the other is pinguy os19:09
VlanXikonia: so i can run iostat against a specific process?19:09
ikoniano19:09
hypernovaChoose either the 12.10 release for all the latest software19:09
hypernovaor 12.04.1 LTS for long-term support.19:09
hypernovawhich one?19:10
ikoniawhichever one YOU want19:10
bekkshypernova: Your choice...19:10
hypernovashould I choose :S19:10
ikoniawhichever one YOU want19:10
endguypatr|ck: Have you tried checking the logs?19:10
dr_willisflip a coin19:10
hypernovalong term support sounds good19:10
patr|ckendguy, for what?19:10
hypernova:S19:10
ikoniathen pick that one19:10
hypernovaok thanks19:10
endguycomiz, xsession, etc...19:10
hypernova:)19:10
ikoniahypernova: have you done ANY research into them ?19:11
endguycompiz*19:11
hypernovano ikonia19:11
ikoniahypernova: come on ???19:11
hypernova:S19:11
endguylook for errors19:11
VlanXhypernova: unless you have an ivey-bridge cpu19:11
endguydebugging is an important skill if you want to successfully use linux19:11
VlanXs/ivey/ivy19:11
hypernovai dunno that19:11
ikoniahypernova: "I've done no research, and know nothing about either platform, random group of strangers tell me what I should use without any information"19:11
hypernova:S19:11
ikoniahypernova: how about do some research into the operating systems YOU want to use and make an educated decision19:11
dr_willis13.04  ;-)19:12
TuxLoflol19:12
hypernovaok ikonia19:12
hypernova:S19:12
ikoniaand stop doing :S19:12
OpenSorcelol19:12
dr_willishypernova: i imagine eithet will do you fine19:12
louiematdr_willis I'm a newbe could you tell me step  by step - sorry for the inconveniance19:12
hypernova:S ok19:12
TuxLof:S19:12
ikoniaunwise19:12
endguyikonia: stop being such a nazi19:12
ikoniaendguy: please don't call me a nzai19:12
ikonianazi19:13
endguyfacist?19:13
Tm_Tendguy: I would kindly ask you to behave19:13
ikoniaendguy: don't call people names19:13
dr_willislouiemat: samba. ssh. sshfs. nfs   look them up. sshfs would be the easiest to setup.19:13
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patr|cknope, nothing in the logs about ccsm19:13
hypernovai want ubuntu to use free xchat19:13
dr_willislouiemat: samba is also ysed for windows.19:13
TuxLofhttp://forum-img.pinside.com/pinball/forum/?bb_attachments=319295&bbat=34923&inline19:13
ikoniahypernova: that's your whole requirement19:13
endguypatr|ck: it may not be called ccsm19:13
doomlordgt640.. hmmm. the nvidia card works. the opengl acceleration works (i can compile and run my own GL apps). its just compiz.19:13
bekkshypernova: Then install it, and use it.19:13
doomlordi've been through 2 ppa guides. maybe it just doesn't work with compiz, still.19:14
hypernovalulz19:14
dr_willishypernova: there is xchat for free for windows19:14
OpenSorcehypernova, you can do that in Windows19:14
louiematthanks Dr willis19:14
fayikonia: why dont you chill alittle, irc gets off topic and rude sometimes, but shocker .... lol its okay19:14
endguypatr|ck: pastebin a copy of ~/.xsession-errors19:14
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ikoniafay: no, it's not19:14
ikonia!guidelines > fay19:14
ubottufay, please see my private message19:14
Tm_Tfay: this is strictly support channel (:19:14
ikoniafay: please check the guidelines for using the ubuntu channel19:14
dr_willisxchat silverx  i think is a free xchat for windows19:15
hypernovaOpenSorce : xchat for window is paid19:15
ikoniadr_willis: it's free19:15
hypernovashareware19:15
ikoniathere is a paid update to make the license popup go away19:15
fayor theres irssi19:15
faywitch is very free19:15
patr|ckhmmm19:15
TuxLofirssi is great19:15
dr_willishypernova: theres free variants of xchat for windows19:15
ikoniafay: for windows....really19:15
endguyirssi <319:15
KM0201yeah... never understood why it's a free app on linux, but shareware on windows.19:15
faycygwin19:16
cnaphello could someone help me improving a simple bash script ?19:16
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hypernovaanyways19:16
OpenSorceKM0201, It isn't shareware, you aren't buying the app you are paying them to compile it for you19:16
hypernovathanks19:16
hypernovaall19:16
cnapI know this isnt the proper channel to do so19:16
KM0201ok19:16
ikoniacnap: then don't ask19:16
ikoniause the proper channel19:16
cnapis there any ?19:16
dr_willislast i looked tgere were like 5 variants if xchat for windows. official is shareware   others were free19:16
endguycnap: I'm sure there are people here who could, but you'd get better luck #bash19:17
ActionParsnipOpenSorce: try hydrairc, its free19:17
bekkscnap: #bash :)19:17
cnapthanks guys :)19:17
green91im partial to bitchx19:17
ActionParsnipOpenSorce: or pidgin19:17
patr|cki just noticed that it installed unity-2d - maybe due to the slow hardware19:17
OpenSorceActionParsnip, I use Xchat on Ubunut 12.04 I'm good19:17
KM0201ugg, pidgin for irc?19:17
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patr|ckso that stupid thing does not even use compiz19:17
ActionParsnipOpenSorce: i thought you wanted a windows client19:17
patr|ckoh no!!19:17
OpenSorceActionParsnip, thanks again for the breakfast advice this morning :-)19:18
ActionParsnipOpenSorce: hehe19:18
KM0201ActionParsnip: it was another user, he's left19:18
patr|cko m g19:18
endguypatr|ck: indeed. i'm not sure unity-2d supports all the fancy stuff... i honestly think unity sucks and prefer GNOME19:18
ActionParsnipKM0201: thanks19:18
OpenSorceActionParsnip, no, some guy was saying he wanted Ubuntu to get free Xchat we were telling him it's free for Windows too19:18
patr|ckyeah, i am tempted to trash it and install Ubuntu 10.04 instead19:18
endguypatr|ck: why?19:18
patr|ckto get a real gnome19:19
VlanXikonia: can i make a script that kills this process if it reaches some cpu util threshold?  since this bug only takes places if the cpu % rises, it would be quite easy to prevent that.19:19
ActionParsnippatr|ck: could install xubuntu 12.1019:19
endguythat seems a bit extreem19:19
endguyextreme*19:19
endguypatr|ck: apt-get install gnome-shell19:19
ikoniaVlanX: you could right something like that,19:19
ActionParsnippatr|ck: its made using gtk and doesnt have unity19:19
patr|ckendguy, lets try that19:19
endguyselect gnome classic before login19:19
blackscarohi how to reset config for bt519:19
VlanXikonia: right?19:19
patr|ckActionParsnip, aha. hmmm19:19
ikoniaVlanX: what do you mean "right ?"19:20
bekks!backtrack | blackscaro19:20
ubottublackscaro: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition19:20
VlanXikonia: it's you that said so...19:20
endguyActionParsnip: I'm pretty sure that same feature is available in Ubuntu 12.1019:20
ikoniaVlanX: I siad so what ?19:20
endguyActionParsnip: gdm19:20
VlanX<ikonia> VlanX: you could right something like that,19:20
VlanXdid u mean write?19:20
ikoniaoops19:20
anastasyaUbuntu 9.10 \n \l19:20
ikoniaVlanX: yes, you could right something like that19:20
ikoniayes, sorry, typo19:20
ikonia"write"19:20
VlanXk :)19:20
ikoniasorr19:21
ikoniasorry19:21
FloodBot1ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:21
dr_williswrite it the right way even19:21
ActionParsnipendguy: i believe it uses lightdm, like ubuntu does19:21
endguyActionParsnip: Not any longer, you can pick between lightdm and gdm19:21
patr|ckthanks a lot, guys!19:22
ActionParsnipendguy: at install time?19:22
ikoniaVlanX: I'm pushing my cpu up to %10 - %15 usage, and still seeing no difference (sustained usage)19:22
endguyActionParsnip: I was able to pick at upgrade time ;-)19:22
ActionParsnipendguy: ahh upgrade, not install :)19:22
endguyActionParsnip: you can simply run dpkg-reconfigure gdm to be given a choice of what desktop manager to use19:23
endguyhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-switch-between-gdm-lightdm-or.html <-- as stated there19:24
VlanXikonia: using iostat i realized that process was writing 9GB per hour, presumibly the same blocks over and over again... :(  Since that process wend at >20% when it did so, i could make a script that could kill it since there is no reason it would even take up to 1% cpu.19:24
ikoniaVlanX: iostat doesn't show you how many GB per hour it's writing19:24
ikoniaVlanX: it's also not historical19:24
ikoniaVlanX: I think you are not being honest as you are telling me you are using tools to do things that are not possible19:24
VlanXikonia: ok, but with gkrellm i did know the mbps that it was taking19:25
ikoniaand at that point I'll back away19:25
Mattsycohey all, just had something weird happen with my system.  It locked up after going to sleep and when I cycled power to get it back on, it was mirroring the desktop on both screens and would not change back to an extended screen.  Now I am getting these blinking dashes along the top of the one remaining working screen.19:25
ikoniaVlanX: you are telling me lies about what you are doing - I am done with this sicussion19:25
ikoniadiscussion19:25
patr|ckoh - and how do i enable that gnome-shell is used instead of unity-2d?19:25
ActionParsnippatr|ck: install it, log off. select the new session19:25
endguypatr|ck: here again, you can run dpkg-reconfigure gdm19:25
patr|ckthank you!19:26
VlanXikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1351491/19:26
ikoniaVlanX: sorry, I didn't make myself clear, I am done with this disussuion after you have told me lies19:26
dr_willisthe  login manager shouldent matter for that19:26
patr|ckendguy, gdm is not installed19:26
endguyyou must install it then19:27
VlanXikonia: lies about what? i hope you're joking!19:27
endguypatr|ck: did you install gnome-shell?19:27
dr_willislightdm can start gneme-shell19:27
VlanXikonia: please see the pastebin19:27
patr|ckendguy, yes sir19:27
endguypatr|ck: you're using 12.10, yes?19:27
ikoniaVlanX: I am done with this discussion after you've told me lies19:27
patr|ckno, no. i am using 12.0419:27
patr|cksorry if i did not make this clear19:27
endguypatr|ck: ok, then just logout and then select your session to be either gnome or gnome classic and log back in19:28
patr|ckoki doki19:28
patr|cknow i get it what the tiny little symbol is for :D19:29
endguy:-)19:29
dr_willisthey really need to make it mire ibvious19:30
dr_willisobvious19:30
ActionParsnipdr_willis: little bitr19:30
dr_willistheres plenty of room19:30
patr|ckthey could use the entire sreen!19:30
patr|ckscreen even19:30
dr_williswith animated desktop previews19:30
patr|ckbut on the other side - its for mobile devices aswell, right?19:30
dr_willis;-)19:31
dr_willispatr|ck: thats a ways off i thi k19:31
pullco3coujouland19:31
* patr|ck hugs Ubuntu either way19:31
dr_willislittle bitty buttons on mobile devices.. is annoying19:32
jace_Here's an idea, they should make it so if you click on Xchat for instance in the Launcher it minimizes it.19:32
MmikeT_How to find out what option installer gives to mkfs.ext4 when creating ext4 partitions on SSDs?19:33
dr_willisdosent minimize apps by  design .... jace_19:33
dr_willisrun 4 xchat windows and it spreads them out19:34
jace_i see that but it should :) dr_willis19:34
dr_willisminimizing is old school thinking.19:35
dr_willisjust select the app you want to use19:35
kostkonjace_, install xchat-indicator. You'll be able then to close xchat and bring it up again from the msging menu.19:35
jace_ok kostkon19:35
kostkonjace_, jsut an idea19:35
endguyalrighty, i've got to get back to modeling circuits using differential equations with complex solutions. y'all be good!19:36
jace_application launch time seems to be an issue, i'm waiting on software center to popup...19:36
dr_willisi just use synaptic ;-)19:37
kostkonjace_, usc is always the slowest app in a vanilla ubuntu installation19:37
dclistMy sound hasn't been working today. Anything I can try?19:37
jCuberdclist, You should be a bit more precise than that19:38
dclistjCuber: What info do you need?19:38
dclistalsamixer: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory19:38
ActionParsnipdclist: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds then reboot19:38
dclistActionParsnip: No way to do it without reboot?19:39
ActionParsnipdclist: might remake the files without a reboot. try it. pulseaudio should automatically restart and regenerate the file and folder19:39
jace_I had trouble with sound crackling and popping when I had flash installed, so I removed it and just watch html5 video controls.  I don't recommend flash anymoe.19:40
jCuberdclist, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=12344719:40
njinHallo there's a launchpad admin here ?19:40
ActionParsnipjace_: i use pepper flash in chrome, runs well19:40
ActionParsnipnjin: try in #launchpad19:40
njinthanks19:40
jace_i think i can live without flash now, I see most videos like on Youtube have html5 option if you have no flash installed.  Maybe this flash will die soon.19:41
fabryfbsera a tutti19:42
ActionParsnipjace_: could use minitube to watch youtube vids19:42
dclistActionParsnip: No luck19:42
dclist(directory was recreated by no sound19:42
jCuberdclist, Confirm you have done "sudo apt-get install alsa-utils".19:42
dclist)19:42
dclistjCuber: dpkg -l says yes19:43
jace_i don't know about his sound, but my sound was way louder in Debian stable.19:43
rootsHello19:43
rootsI havea Q19:43
ActionParsnipdclist: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload19:43
dclistjCuber: Is my user supposed to be in the "sound" group?19:44
fabryfbla barra dei menu in libre office è scomparsa,ma se entro direttamante da libre c'è.19:44
rootsIm running ubuntu server in a VM inside windows right now but can i export the image to a real server once i have it all configed ?19:44
dclistI'll try a reboot.19:44
dclistbe back in519:44
rootsNot sure if this is the place to ask.19:44
superrobyyfabryfb questo e' il canale internazionale19:44
ikoniaroots: not really no19:44
fabryfbcome si fa ad andare in quello italiano?19:44
jCuberroots, #vmware19:45
h00k!it | fabryfb19:45
ubottufabryfb: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)19:45
superrobyyfabryfb #ubuntu-it19:45
ikoniaroots: technically you can, but it's a process rather than a "click"19:45
superrobyyh00k are you italian?19:45
h00ksuperrobyy: no19:45
|nazist|HI19:46
superrobyyh00k do you understand italian?19:46
|nazist|I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH UBUNTU19:46
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jCubersuperrobyy, Please do "/join #ubuntu-it"19:46
ActionParsnip!caps  | |nazist|19:46
ubottu|nazist|: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.19:46
|nazist|!ubu ntu is running slow19:47
superrobyyjCuber why?19:47
ActionParsnip|nazist|: what video chip do you use?19:47
|nazist|I use AMD19:47
|nazist|and for chip ATI19:47
ActionParsnip!ati | |nazist|19:47
ubottu|nazist|: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto19:47
jCubersuperrobyy, I don't think h00k speaks Italian. The "#ubuntu-it" channel is for Italian locales19:47
h00ksuperrobyy: no19:48
|nazist|cheers fellers19:48
superrobyyjCuber jCuber I don't want speak italian19:48
jace_I go to install synaptic in software center, and there are two of them?19:48
ghostconnis there any universal linux driver to sync my ableton live controller? I HOPE :)19:50
asteconnHello chaps. I'm trying to create a customised keyboard layout. I've edited one of my xkb symbols files, and restarted, but I cannot select the new layout from the drop down list of options. Is there something else that I need to edit?19:50
jCuberjace_, Have you added external sources to the package manager?19:50
ikoniaghostconn: how many times have you been told this "NO"19:50
jCuberikonia, See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Howto%3A%20Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions19:51
jace_nope jCuber19:51
ikoniajCuber: why are you showing me this ?19:51
Dark_lighta19:51
jCuberikonia, Haha, my bad. Sent that to the wrong user19:52
jace_I want to jump back in Debian so bad, but I guess it I give Ubuntu a week...19:52
jribasteconn: there's some xml (or xml-like) file that contains all of the layouts...  You could just use setxkbmap though...19:52
ghostconnany producers out there?19:52
ikoniaghostconn: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?19:53
cloudyghostconn, try ubuntu studio mailing list19:53
ghostconncloudy : thank you19:53
ghostconnikonia : do you just sit and watch the messages as they go by or what... you're on hear 24/7 lol i remember a year ago i needed help and you were on hear?? do you sleep lol19:54
ghostconnor at least get paid lol19:54
Mattsycoanyone know a  good system repair program?  I want to try running something like that before I am forced to wipe and reinstall my system.  my Video is going all wonky on me19:57
patr|ckwhat kind of repair? what is broken?19:58
bekksMattsyco: There is no such thing, on no known operating system.,19:58
wastrelself healing software19:58
patr|ck:D19:58
HappyNewYear13hello. i have a question19:58
HappyNewYear13anyone here?19:59
bekks!ask | HappyNewYear1320:00
ubottuHappyNewYear13: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:00
anonymous_hola20:03
anonymous_alguien20:03
anonymous_hay20:03
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DerbieHello20:05
MattsycoSorry, spaced out a tad.   Running Ubuntu 12.10, and my system froze in a sleep state.  when I got it running again it would not use a Dual-screen display.  and now there are blinking dashes going through the menu bar and every once in a while the top 2/3 of the screen will go black with white dashes20:05
jCuberMattsyco, have you installed correct GPU drivers?20:06
DerbieI am anti-computer, i hardly know what is the difference between a CPU and RAM. Which version of ubuntu should i get for an old laptop from 2007, on which i use yahoo messenger, browser, youtube, gmail, .DOC .XLS files and teamviewer? I do not play PC games. Thank you :-)20:06
jCuberDerbie, Just get Xubuntu20:07
wyclifDerbie: if it were me, I would use lubuntu20:07
DerbiejCuber: this one: The all-new Ubuntu 12.10 is out now. ?20:07
Derbiewyclif: lubuntu is the light version afaik ?20:08
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Mattsycolet me check.  I know there was a proprietary driver selection that I picked20:08
jCuberDerbie, wyclif, Yes, my bad, get Lubuntu20:08
jCuberMattsyco, Which GPU are you using, in fact?20:08
Mattsycoamd radion HD 575020:08
Derbiejcuber , wyclif : Is it more user friendly\? That's what i'm looking for. My wife won't know to use IRC to get help and i don't want to be bothered in the future to be honest20:09
LeightonHi?20:09
jCuberDerbie, wyclif, Lubuntu is just a lightweight Ubuntu.20:09
LeightonCan anyone hear me?20:09
LeightonRead*20:09
jCuber!hi | Leighton20:10
jCuberaww20:10
Mattsycohey Leighton20:10
LeightonI have a HUGE problem20:10
jCuberYes, what seems to be the problem20:10
LeightonI just installed ubuntu 12.10 right?20:10
LeightonAnd suddenly my battery wouldnt charge20:10
jCuberMattsyco, I downloaded http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx20:10
Leightonit stays at the same percentage20:10
Mattsycothanks jCuber20:10
LeightonAnyone else have this problem?20:11
jCuberMattsyco, No problem. If any more problems appear, #ubuntu is here!20:11
Derbiejcuber, wyclif xubuntu vs ubuntu 12.10 vs lubuntu : which one is more user friendly?20:11
LeightonCan anyone help me?20:12
jCuberDerbie, tbh, I've only used Ubuntu versions up to 10.04, so I'm guessing Ubuntu 12.10 would be the one. However, I'm not sure about your system specs.20:12
navalastrohello20:12
navalastrodo you speak spanish?20:13
wastrel12.10 IS NEW20:13
wastrelpadon caps lock20:13
jCuberLeighton, Do you mean the battery stopped recharging completely, or the battery notification panel app has frozen?20:13
IdleOne!es | navalastro20:13
ubottunavalastro: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:13
navalastroillo me cago en la puta responde a la pregunta20:13
LeightonWell, I look at the statistics of the battery, and the charging rate stays even20:14
MattsycoDerbie, it depends on what type of layout you want.  if you want something with an actual menu and that is lightweight, Xubuntu is what you should use.  if you dont mind using the app finder in Unity, then the standard should suit you just fine20:14
jCuber!wtf | navalastro20:14
ubottunavalastro: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.20:14
Derbiexubuntu recommended RAM and CPU ?20:14
LeightonI dont know if its stopped completely, i'm installing windows 7 to test, right nows20:14
jCuberDerbie, Do you know your laptop model?20:15
DerbieYes20:15
MattsycoLeighton, I have heard of others that have had problems with battery  charge displays, just dont know what to do to fix it20:15
Derbieamilo pro v350520:15
IdleOneDerbie: at the bottom of this page http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/20:15
LeightonWell, my battery has worked fine with gnome remix 12.10,20:15
marcelohi20:15
Derbiei think i have 512 RAM20:16
ciaociao20:16
marcelosomeone in espanish?20:16
ciaoopenjoke20:16
babberHi. I have a user on my machine that has no login shell (/bin/false) but they do have a home directory. I want to get the files out of that home directory. I have the username and password. Can anyone help?20:16
IdleOne!es20:16
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:16
AdvocatedHi there, does anything as such exist for ubuntu, im basically a member on lots of forums, i regularly check(view new content type of thing), is there anything out there that can check all of these for new content from one location?20:16
ikoniaAdvocated: rss20:16
Derbiewindows XP is performing poorly on this laptop, thats why i want to move to linux.... idleone jcuber mattsyco20:17
jCuberAdvocated, Try to find a RSS viewer from the Package Manager20:17
ciaoopenjokeopenjoke20:17
Advocatedikonia, i thought of that but ive looked at one of the foryums and it had an rss feed for a sub forum(not the whole lot) so would i have to add one for every sub forum if you get me? ive got that akgregator?20:17
IdleOneDerbie: sounds reasonable. try Xubuntu or Lubuntu and they both should run fine with 512mb RAM20:17
jCuberDerbie, Ahh, I see. Maybe you should try formatting your hard-drive and re-installing Windows XP if you've installed too many programs.20:17
Derbiejcuber she only uses it for messenger browsing youtube office programs and teamviewer (guess when...)20:18
VlanXhow can i prevent ubuntu from cashing writes to disk for a ridicolous amount of time?20:19
DerbieIdleOne: i'll give xubuntu a go if you say it is more userfriendly then20:19
jCuberDerbie, I think that's the best option.20:19
jCuberVlanX, Do you mean caching?20:20
IdleOneDerbie: expect a slower performance from live cd then you would from an actual install, but both xubuntu and lubuntu are light and very usable.20:20
VlanXjCuber: if i write a 30 byte file to my HDD it doesnt just write it, it waits several minutes20:20
TohuwHas anyone with an nVidia Optimus chipset had success with Bumblebee? Should I still shy away from Optimus-enabled systems?20:21
allquixoticTohuw: I'm using it now. It works pretty well for most* things20:21
DerbieThank you everyone! jCuber IdleOne Mattsyco wyclif Very much appreciated. I will format C: and install xubuntu on it. Will i encounter any issues with mounting the D: drive NTFS format?20:21
IdleOneDerbie: nope20:22
Tohuwallquixotic: What's inside that astrisk? ;)20:22
DerbieOkay, thank you!20:22
allquixoticTohuw: there's definitely a performance overhead, but even still, the discrete GPU should run circles around your Intel... it's great for power management too: bumblebee automatically shuts off your nvidia GPU if nothing is using it, so your desktop can run at lower power on the intel chip20:22
allquixoticTohuw: they're developing a lower-overhead transport called Primus that should help, but we'll only see the full benefit of Primus once Unity automatically disables redirected rendering in fullscreen20:23
allquixoticTohuw: still, 3d games are playable for the most part20:23
allquixoticand there's little/no overhead for OpenCL20:23
Tohuwallquixotic: What model of laptop do you have, and what is your average battery life? Also, can't you just disable redirected rendering for full-screen applications in CCSM20:23
fugahi, i' have some problem with a wifi card....somebody could help me?20:23
escottVlanX, if you need to sync then sync.20:23
Tohuw!doesntwork | fuga20:24
ubottufuga: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.20:24
allquixoticTohuw: ThinkPad T530 with Intel HD4000 on i7-3820QM, and Nvidia NVS 5400M20:24
allquixoticI don't run the system without A/C very often, but when I do, battery life without any Nvidia-accelerated apps running is quite good; around 7-8 hours on minimum screen brightness20:25
allquixoticTohuw: of course, if you are doing 3d gaming on the nvidia GPU, expect battery life to halve or worse20:25
allquixotichence the whole point of optimus20:25
fugasorry ...my problem is...i want to compile some drivers and i don't know how to do.20:26
Tohuwallquixotic: going to take this to msg if you don't mind, to keep the channel clear.20:26
allquixoticTohuw: the only *real* gotcha I've found of Bumblebee so far is that it doesn't work with VMware Workstation; that is, if you want hardware-accelerated 3d in a guest, you can only do that with the intel IGP, not the Nvidia20:26
allquixoticgo ahead20:27
jCuberfuga, Which network card do you have? Is it an USB card? Internal?20:28
PoolShark_hola20:28
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jCuberPoolShark_, Hi!20:29
PoolShark_what's up?20:29
fugajcuber: it's an external usb card model  belkin rtl8188cus could you help to compile the driver i've just download to the website of realtek20:29
Tohuwfuga: What is the model of card? post the output of sudo lspci | grep -i network20:30
AcidRain2012i need advice. im wanting to make a backup bash script that i can later turn into a cron  job. i want this script to work by backing up the specified contents of a usb device to an external drive WHEN the usb is plugged in.20:33
AcidRain2012im wanting to be able to backup my files as quickly as it takes me to plug in a usb stick, and take it out, and the job be done20:33
Tohuwfuga: Ah, the rtl8188... read here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197295/cant-connect-to-wireless-network-with-a-sabrent-a111n-usb-dongle20:33
jCuberAcidRain2012, You might want to check out #bash20:33
escottAcidRain2012, trigger the backup with a udev rule. do the backup with rsync20:33
AcidRain2012my issue is: how do i get the path of the newly added device? the path may not be the same everytime. and i dont want to make it the same every time20:34
escottAcidRain2012, don't work with paths. use uuids20:34
* PoolShark_ just got done cramming 16 hard drives into an Antec 300 case20:34
PoolShark_UUIDs == The Way to Go These Days20:34
AcidRain2012PoolShark_: good point. i know how to detect by uuid, but how would i back  it up without knowing the path based off the uuid?20:34
jribAcidRain2012: also, if you give the partition a label, then it should get mounted using the label20:35
escottAcidRain2012, don't understand... you add an fstab entry by uuid the files are always in the same location20:35
AcidRain2012jrib: im wanting to avoid this. im wanting to make a simple user friendly script.20:35
PoolShark_god my dog is an idiot20:36
AcidRain2012only user input i want to use is them entering the uuid of the device. after that, i wnat it to automatically backup to a different device by uuid20:36
jribAcidRain2012: that makes no sense...20:36
lnxmenprobably dog is more intelligent than half year baby20:37
PoolShark_he's fascinated with twist ties20:37
PoolShark_she20:37
AcidRain2012jrib: ok. here is what im saying. i make a script to backup files. the files will be backed up in a folder on an external device (user types the uuid of the external device, this is where files are backed up, a folder will be created with the name of the uuid). when i plug in a usb device with a certain uuid (user input) the script will detect it and backup files20:38
PoolShark_she runs around the house throwing them up in the air to herself... she just did it now and wasn't looking where she was going and ran into a wall head first20:38
jribAcidRain2012: so what's your question?20:38
Tohuwfuga: Sorry, I am pressed for time at the moment. Which command are you having trouble with?20:39
AcidRain2012but. i want to avoid putting a label on every device i get, or anyone else gets in my family. the issue is no one else in my family would even know how to do that. and im not about to label 100 drives20:39
jCuber!offtopic | PoolShark_20:39
ubottuPoolShark_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:39
exarkunHaving trouble upgrading, can't get adobe-flashplugin to upgrade or even to uninstall: http://codepad.org/J7yZw7sX20:39
jribAcidRain2012: so instead you're having them enter 100 UUIDs?20:39
exarkunAny suggestions?20:39
AcidRain2012jrib: so the question is, how do i back the files up, if i KNOW the uuid of the device plugged in. but i DONT know the path too it20:39
PoolShark_you realize that if the user has to enter a UUID, the process will likely fail.. because they won't do it20:39
AcidRain2012jrib: exactlly right. lol. ill make it so they can easily select 1 from a list.20:39
escottAcidRain2012, crossreference mount and blkid20:40
jribAcidRain2012: how on earth do you expect them to know which uuid corresponds to the thing they just plugged in?20:40
AcidRain2012the less they talk to me about computer realted issues, the happier i will be, and the less they will gripe about a computer that is fried and they lost everything20:40
AcidRain2012jrib: cause the script will wait for a difference to occure.20:40
bekksAcidRain2012: /dev/disk-by-uuid ...20:41
AcidRain2012bekks: thats what i use20:41
jribAcidRain2012: I guess I don't understand what you are doing.  But others can help you.20:41
AcidRain2012ill try to crossreferencing mount and blkid20:41
AcidRain2012yea that seems like the best method. just need to find out how to parse all of this now. which google will help. thank you everyone for your help20:43
escottAcidRain2012, the /dev/disk-by-uuid may be more accessible to a script.20:43
AcidRain2012escott: yeah, i think ill use that and crossreference with blkid20:44
escottAcidRain2012, but i would just hook into udev and then you can directly handle the plugin event and have all the information you need20:44
bekksAcidRain2012: cat /proc/mnounts ...20:44
rogan.xchat2/budus.so20:44
PoolShark_is there a sysprep-like utility for ubuntu?20:45
jCuberPoolShark_, "Linux doesn't have SIDs and it's not registered, so there's nothing to do to "prepare" it. Just copy the VM file. "20:45
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PoolShark_well, it's not quite that simple20:46
deper29hey, I am using kde and I didn't unpack my theme when i chose it to be my theme. Now, if I try to boot it fails into a console because it can't use that theme. Any idea how I would fix this?20:47
PoolShark_when you install ubuntu, you have to give it a user name and their details, a hostname, and other things20:47
PoolShark_if you blindly copy the VM file, that's a start, but you then need to go in and change all that stuff20:47
PoolShark_I've never messed around with  mass-deployments of ubuntu, so I am sure there must be a better way20:47
jCuberdeper29, Tried doing "startx" in the console?20:48
jCuberPoolShark_, Ahh, I see. Don't really have experience in that area, so I can't help you.20:48
PoolShark_no worries20:49
guntbertWhat happens after apport has done its thing after a crash (collected info, asked the user if a "problem report" should be sent)? I never get the chance to actually report a bug, as is the case when calling ubuntu-bug.20:49
deper29jCuber: yeah, if I do startx it tries to start into kdm20:50
deper29is there a way in command line to change my default kdm theme?20:50
jCuberdeper29, dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?20:51
jCuberdeper29, or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop && sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"20:51
whaaai have a ?20:52
Tex_NickI'm looking for some feedback on the ubuntu port to Nexus 7 ... if anyone's using it ... how's the experience ?20:52
guntbert!ask | whaaa20:52
ubottuwhaaa: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:52
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guntbertTex_Nick: not here please - this is a support channel20:52
k1lTex_Nick: better ask in #ubuntu-arm oder #ubuntu-offtopic20:53
whaaaso i have windows 7, with 2 montiors on amd catalyst... will all my programs already installed on windows be there if i install ubuntu20:53
jCuberTex_Nick, Try the Ubuntu Forums, or #ubuntu-offtopic20:53
bekkswhaaa: Be where?20:53
whaaabe on ubuntu20:53
jCuberwhaaa, I have bad news for you20:53
bekkswhaaa: Of course, no.20:53
guntbertwhaaa: not in your ubuntu - its a different Operating system20:53
PoolShark_there's an ubuntu port to Nexus 7?????? whoa, I gotta go check that out20:54
whaaa...so id have to install bf3, photoshop and all that on ubuntu too20:54
francesc1hi guys. My pupils chat over clients (LTSP20:54
bekkswhaaa: Those applications are NOT available on Ubuntu.20:54
PoolShark_whaaa: None of that stuff will run on Ubuntu20:54
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guntbertwhaaa: no, they will not all be available for linux20:54
dr_williswhaaa: linux only runs windows apps with the use of wine.20:54
dr_willisand thwn not all of them20:55
Tex_Nickok thanks ppl ... i'll shop around :-)20:55
whaaadang... so if i want to run ubuntu with all my stuff, should i just use the windows installer and run both?20:55
PoolShark_whaaa: That's probably the simplest20:55
PoolShark_you can do that, or get VirtualBox and run Ubuntu in that20:55
dr_williswhaaa: that dosent run both oss at the same time20:55
whaaaok cool, ive got plenty of room to do so.  what are the advantages of using ubuntu20:55
dr_willisvbox will.20:55
jetoleHey guys. After I use dpkg --set-selections, how do I implement those changes?20:55
whaaaya not both at the same time but i can at least switch right?20:56
Kevin89whaaa: What reason do you have for installing it?20:56
frank000I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 in Virtualbox and it works like a charm :)20:56
jCuberwhaaa, You can't run all of your Windows stuff. It's the same as trying to get a Mac program to work on Windows. You can also create a dual-boot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot20:56
PoolShark_whaaa: You can run Ubuntu at the same time as Windows if you install VirtualBox in Windows, and then install Ubuntu in VirtualBox20:56
Smackbookis there any other parts of a system besides fstab which attach your OS to the particular UUID of your root drive?20:56
dr_willisSmackbook: grub bootloader can20:57
escottSmackbook, fstab, the initramfs, and if you have mdadm or lvm20:57
whaaakevin89, just out of curiousity i wanted to... its something ive never used and windows is getting a little old20:57
dr_willislook at the grub.cfg file to see if it is20:57
frank000...i'm falling love with unity (i hated it so far)20:58
yeatswhaaa: install virtualbox on Windows, then install Ubuntu there - if you like it, dual boot or install it as your primary OS20:58
guntbertwhaaa: in that case best try it with a live CD20:58
dr_williswhaaa: get the 12.10 dvd and play with the live dvd feature. no need to install20:58
yeatswhaaa: or with a live CD as guntbert says20:58
dr_willisyou can even test the live cd in virtualbox20:59
whaaaso that means i basically burn it to dvd and every time i put the disc in i can use ubuntu20:59
Smackbookdr_willis: ah, so if I copy my OS to another machine (and dont want to tunefs the UUID of my other drive to match) I just have to update fstab (from blkid) and update grub?20:59
dr_willisboot the cd.. yes.20:59
frank000or just mount iso w/ virtual clone drive20:59
yeatswhaaa: in that case I would use a USB so you can preserve settings20:59
guntbertwhaaa: when you boot from the DVD, yes20:59
dr_willisSmackbook:  i think so20:59
whaaasweet stuff man, thanks for the help yall20:59
soman>>> Hi all. Ubuntu 12.04. Left side panel with apps doesn't disappear. I tried to change settings and on / off this option but nothing changes... what could be a problem?20:59
escottSmackbook, and the initramfs21:00
frank000another alternative to try linux is to use wubi. what do you think abt?21:00
Smackbookescott: oh right, i'm not experienced with that one.  is there a config file? like /etc/initramfs21:00
Smackbookchecking21:00
yeatsfrank000: most in here will not recommend wubi as a viable option21:00
escottSmackbook, no just update-initramfs (it reads from /etc and structures the initramfs file in /boot)21:01
guntbertfrank000: rather not - it is kept within  a windows file - that simply calls for trouble :)21:01
Smackbookescott: i see, thank you21:01
frank000so better virtualbox? ;)21:01
yeatsfrank000: if you've got the resources, yes - if not, dual boot\21:01
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frank000i'm running ubuntu 12.04LTS on G640/2x2GB RAM and works very well21:02
frank000virtualbox21:02
Kevin89I just installed Fluxbox on Ubuntu 12.10 but it's already partially configured...  anyone know how I could get a clean fluxbox installation?21:05
frank000Do you suggest 12.10 or keeps the 12.04LTS?21:06
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ikoniafrank000: up to you21:07
Kevin89frank000: Unless you deployed the machine in an office environment ... it really wouldn't matter for the average person21:07
ArcimboldoHi all: I'm running ubuntu 12.10 on macbookpro 9,2, I want to use pommed to autodim and control keyboard backlight, how can I disable kb backlight support in X from compiz/unity/whatever?21:08
newbodhihi21:08
newbodhihow can i properly close a program (like firefox) from terminal (and not kill it)?21:08
frank00012.10 will be supported for 18months or 2years?21:09
ikonia18 months21:09
isambartbonjour tout le monde21:09
Arcimboldonewbodhi: kill by default will "ask" the program to terminate nicely21:09
frank000ok so I will stay with 12.04 LTS ;)21:09
_neil77_12.04 LTS ofcourse21:10
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testerlol21:11
frank000anyone use/admin LTSP here^21:12
bekksfrank000: Why?21:12
kpitnhi all, i'm in bad trouble with a dell flash bios, can someone help me ?21:12
ikoniahow hard is it to just ask your question21:12
ikoniadoes it matter what anyone else is using ?21:12
frank000my students chats over the thin clients :)21:13
helldoneSovellus, jolla voin nähdä, kuka koneellani/verkossani käy ilman lupaa!?!21:13
sin_taxis it normal for a 720p webcam to show up as 640x480 in ubnutu? http://pastebin.com/q2S8W8Cp21:13
frank000they can't install software so was wondering which builtin software are using :)21:13
ikoniaask them21:13
frank000ikonia: lol21:13
ikoniawhy is that funny ?21:14
ikonia"I'm wondering what they are using", "ask them"21:14
bekksfrank000: We dont know what they are using. :P21:14
guntbert!fi | helldone21:14
ubottuhelldone: Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)21:14
Kevin89If I install a package and extra packages are installed with it, how can I make sure those are removed when I uninstall the original?21:14
zykotick9Kevin89: "sudo apt-get autoremove" might do it21:15
frank000I have another issue with xf86config error growing up to fill up the whole hard disk21:15
ikoniafrank000: a config file will not fill up the hard disk21:15
ikoniafrank000: it's also static, so it won't change in size21:15
DaveRKevin89, another way to get around that is to use the --no-install-recommends flag with your apt-get install... that way only the package you requested gets installed21:15
Arcimboldoanyone know how to configure keyboard backlight and brightness behavior in ubuntu 12.10?21:16
ArcimboldoI can't find any configuration entry in gconf-editor21:16
Kevin89zykotick9: Doesn't  look like that worked :(21:16
frank000ikonia: .xession error file21:17
Out`Of`ControlHi what is ubuntu devs channel?21:17
ikoniafrank000: look at the error then21:17
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: depends what type of development21:17
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: what's the question21:17
frank000ikonia: it's abt 1TB!21:17
isambartcallagan21:17
Out`Of`Controlunity21:17
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: that's not a question21:17
tester Backtrack vs Blackbuntu,  I use both but trying to decide. Any thoughts?21:17
ikoniatester: neither are anything to do wiht this channel21:18
isambarthello21:18
Out`Of`Controlikonia:  is there ubuntu dev channel?21:18
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: it depends what for, what's the question21:18
Out`Of`Controlikonia:  can you give me or not?21:18
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: it depends what for, what's the question21:18
frank000is there a way to view a huge .xsession-error file21:18
ikoniafrank000: truncate it, and monitor it before it grows21:18
frank000ikonia: with tail -f21:19
ikoniafrank000: if you want21:19
iliveinaparkHi all, I need some help with ACLs on Samba/NFS shares on native ZFS. Is this a good place to ask, or is there somewhere else? I'm completely new to ubuntu (been strictly debian/FreeBSD all my life), so don't know the community yet.21:19
ikoniailiveinapark: well, ZFS isn't in ubuntu21:20
ikoniailiveinapark: so the acl's will just be standard NFS acls21:20
Out`Of`Controlikonia: its related to unity desktop files / UCS21:20
escottArcimboldo, check in /sys21:20
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: what's the question21:20
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: actually, doesn't matter, I can't be bothered - "no, I can't point you at the developers channel"21:21
Arcimboldoescott: backlight works, I want to disable it from the graphical interface, and make pommed deal with it21:21
userzzzif i click unity icon the windows come on foreground, is it possible to reclick and put where it was, now if i reclick noting happen21:22
Out`Of`Controlikonia: so why you keep asking me?21:22
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: I've stopped asking you, I was asking you so I could point you at the right channel, but you won't give me the question so I'm fed up of asking you, so "no, I won't help you"21:22
iliveinaparkikonia: Yeah, I had a feeling, but google hasn't turned up anything. nfs4-acl-tools, then? Will they be relatively consistent over samba and nfs on the same fs?21:22
Kevin89sorry what was that  parameter to only download the singular package and none of the extas?21:22
ikoniailiveinapark: they won't be consistant over samba, as samba won't interact with NFS like that21:23
ikoniailiveinapark: they need to be on the native file system to be picked up by both samba/nfs21:23
DaveROut`Of`Control, I think the problem is that your question is very general.  There are many different  areas of development and thus depending on what you are developing, there are different channels in which to discuss it21:23
Out`Of`Controlikonia: i told you its about unity UCS ,menu entries for UCS21:23
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: that's not a question21:23
iliveinaparkikonia: Fair enough, thanks mate.21:24
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doomlordis it possible that nvidia GT640 just doesn't work with *compiz*. i tried some updates , it works for ubuntu2d, and for gl apps ... but not compiz21:25
ikoniadoomlord: yes, it's totally possible, especially as the installer warns you the card is not supported21:25
Out`Of`Controlikonia: btw i don't need help but ubuntu devs21:26
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doomlordok. i guess i should have researched my gfx card purchase a little better; stil no disaster, with many screens i need transitions less21:26
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: then there is no problem, as I've said I won't help you21:26
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Out`Of`Controlikonia:  all i need a channel to contact them IRC channel.21:27
Out`Of`Controlbut maybe this was wrong place to ask for info21:27
bekksOut`Of`Control: Just out of interest - what do need from the devs?21:27
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: yes, and I was trying to get you the right channel by asking what your question was21:27
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: however as you won't tell me the question you need to ask/discuss, I can't point you at the right channel21:27
k1l!guidelines | Out`Of`Control21:28
ubottuOut`Of`Control: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines21:28
Out`Of`Controlikonia:  Ubuntu unity Devs.21:28
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: and as I've asked you 10 times and you've not answered, I can't be bothered any more21:28
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: that's not a question21:28
k1lOut`Of`Control: take alook inside the  guidelines. there are the core channels mentioned21:28
Out`Of`Controlk1l: ty21:28
userzzzif i click an icon why if i reclick don't disappear? help me what i have to do to enable it21:29
k1lOut`Of`Control: but if you bother them with noob stuff you wont get a warm welcome. so think about ask a real question here.21:29
Basil1xI just upgraded to 12.10, now ktorrent no longer puts its' icon in the top bar.  Is there any way to fix this?21:30
k1luserzzz: that is not supposed to happen.21:30
dr_willisuserzzz:  you mean if you click on  for example firefox in the left side panel. you expect it to minimize21:30
Out`Of`Controlk1l: again i don't have a problem but ubuntu unity Devs.21:30
toorovieejohi everybody21:30
userzzzyes21:30
jagginessOut`Of`Control, aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh21:30
jagginessOut`Of`Control, im not dev21:30
userzzzit has to reminimize or go where it was21:30
k1lOut`Of`Control: they have a problem?21:30
dr_willisuserzzz:  its not designed to work that way. if you had 8 firefox windows open it would spread them out21:31
Out`Of`Controlk1l:  yes21:31
bekksOut`Of`Control: Which problem do they have? Tell us about it please.21:31
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/unity-with-minimize-on-click-patch.html21:31
Out`Of`Controlbekks:  lmms keeps crashing in ubuntu with unity21:31
userzzzno just the only on top21:31
bekksOut`Of`Control: And did you create a bug report yet, in launchpad?21:31
dr_willisuserzzz:  read up on it at that URL.21:32
Basil1xnever mind... 12.10 appears to have more issues than 12.04LTS did.21:32
bekksOut`Of`Control: Doing so will helop them to solve that issue.21:32
Out`Of`Controlbekks: i guess noone read what i write?21:32
dr_willisthe whole idea of minimizeing is sort of .. well outdated. ;)21:32
Basil1xDowngrading... again21:32
brunostanybody here that knows of a good guide for making a persistent usb installation of ubuntu server here?21:32
userzzzdr_willis which url?21:32
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dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/unity-with-minimize-on-click-patch.html21:32
armanhi21:32
userzzzok21:32
userzzzthx21:33
bekksOut`Of`Control: People do read what you are writing. Did you create a bug report yet?21:33
armanhello21:33
Out`Of`Controlbekks:  devs have problem not me. I need irc channel to contact them21:33
bekksOut`Of`Control: You need to create a bug report.21:33
dr_willis!info lmms21:33
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: you contact them by logging a bug report21:33
Out`Of`Controlbekks:  for what? i don't even use Ubuntu21:33
ubottulmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.10-2ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 3971 kB, installed size 8691 kB21:33
ikoniaOut`Of`Control: that way the problem is logged and multiple people/teams can view it and contribute21:33
k1lOut`Of`Control: honestly. if you dont have a bug report handy they will not listen to you.21:34
ForSparePartsI tried moving a partition (NTFS) with GParted from Ubuntu Live -- after I finished, the partition won't mount, and Ubuntu's suggesting I run chkdsk -- problem is that Windows won't boot if the drive inquestion is plugged in (even though I'm not booting from it) and I can't even see my boot drive in BIOS now.21:34
AwesomewmUbuntu 12.04 is only as good as its de21:34
ForSparePartsI can still get into my Ubuntu Live, though -- is there anything I can do from there to fix this?21:34
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bekksAwesomewm: Ubuntu provides several desktop environments - so its multiplied then? ;)21:35
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dr_willisbekks:  its exponential! :)21:35
AwesomewmI don't use the default gnome. I install a more stable desktop environment off the bat21:36
Out`Of`Controlall i was asking was for #ubuntu-devel channel21:37
dr_willisAwesomewm: let me guess.. you like IceWM? :)21:38
bekksdr_willis: ion3 ;)21:39
Awesomewm I use Awesome WM21:39
dr_williswe all know olvwm is best. ;)21:39
dr_willisif its even in the repos still...21:39
* dr_willis just showed his age21:39
Kevin89;o21:39
userzzzdr_willis, very useful link21:39
bfortifiedAnyone know how to make this auth.log entry "PAM 5 more authentication failures; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=192.168.1.254  user=username" log each failure instead of batching them?21:40
Awesomewmlxde,xfce,fluxbox,openbox or kde Im good with them all21:40
bekksdr_willis: It is older than Motif, isnt it?21:41
ubuntu__hello- i just installed ubuntu LTS on my dell inspiron 1525 - and when i started i couldnt access the internet because no driver for my network device - any help????21:41
DarKModebfortified go to rsyslog configuration file and change the priority21:41
dr_willisbekks:  yea. i think it was origially used on the Sun Stations i used in college in 1986 (or im confused again)21:42
dr_willisbekks:  or at least thers whre i used it first21:42
Kevin89How can I install fluxbox without any of the extra packages?21:42
dr_willissudo apt-get install fluxbox should pull in the minimal set for fluxbox21:42
Kevin89dr_willis: I'm trying to get a clean fluxbox install but when I tried that and went int oa fluxbox session21:43
chuga64#exit21:43
ubuntu__hello- i just installed ubuntu LTS on my dell inspiron 1525 - and when i started i couldnt access the internet because no driver for my network device - any help21:43
Kevin89ubuntu added a panel and background and some other things21:43
Kevin89i'd really like a fresh experiencee21:43
Awesomewmforspareparts probably not ubuntu always messes up windows seven side of a dual boot21:43
dr_williserr.. most likely theres some defult system wide fluxbox configs its using.. fluxbox has a panel last i used it..21:43
ikoniaAwesomewm: no it doesn't21:44
ikoniaAwesomewm: ubuntu works fine with Windows 7 as a dual boot situation21:44
AwesomewmIt smashed my my windows 7 side21:45
dr_willisdident touch windows here at all.. 2 hd setup.21:45
dr_willisive had windows mess up ubuntu more often21:45
ikoniaAwesomewm: no it didn't21:45
ikoniaAwesomewm: the bu21:45
ikoniathe ubuntu install does not touch the windows install21:46
ikoniaso please - stop talking nonsense21:46
dr_willis12.10 doesnet even have the import users/settings/files from windows any more does it?21:46
Kevin89dr_willis: yeah it does21:46
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scarleowhere did the proprietary driver dialogue go in 12.10? Can't find it21:50
scarleoI meant the installation program for wireless drivers, nvidia etc.21:51
cosmoi've got an external hard drive that won't show up on the gui, but i can find it in gparted21:52
Awesomewmubuntu_ open terminal and run jockey-gtk21:52
ikoniajokey is gone21:52
ikoniajockey even21:53
mattsycoit should be under Mount when you look at the files Cosmo21:53
dr_willisscarleo:  its under the software sources app - in a tab21:53
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cosmohow exactly do i look at the files? where am i looking?21:54
scarleodr_willis, Ah, cool, thanks21:54
nirivenso why ubuntu over something like arch or debian?21:54
cosmoAwesomewm, i ran jockey-gtk, just got a blank list of drivers21:54
ikonianiriven: personal choice, find your own view21:54
gustav__niriven: nVidia drivers included. Or at least non-complicated to install. My computer came with Ubuntu, too.21:55
Awesomewmcosmo it won't show in disk utility21:56
cosmowhat's the command for that21:56
dr_williscosmo:  the file maanger should show all seen filesystems in its left side list.21:57
dr_williscosmo:  if a windows partion is for some reason not 'clean' it may refuse to mount it.21:57
dr_williscosmo:  what filesystem is on the hd? and you can try to mount it 'by hand' if you want21:57
nirivenah ok. i did just download 12.10, strangely enough windows says "image is too large for a cd-r"21:58
cosmodoesn't show up on the left hand side of the gui. and i formatted it with fat32, gave one big partition the whole drive space if that's the correct way to do it21:58
maslohi guys I have a question regarding ssh tunnels, I know how to use one and have my own vps but what I'd like to know is if there's any way to see what is being browsed through the tunnel?  is there any command to do so/anything?21:58
escottniriven, it can be burned on a CD but it needs to be the bigger ones21:58
nirivenescott: bleh, it used to work with a cd-r :(21:59
dr_williscosmo:  you could try to mount it by hand if you wanted to.   did you JUST repartion/reformat it in gparted? You did Format the filesystem?21:59
dr_willis12.10 is bigger then i cd i thought. has to be on dvd now.21:59
somanbroken pipe*: couldn't write bytes... I get this mesage when I start my PC... what does it mean? Ubuntu 12.04 (ext4) also installed win7 on ntfs21:59
cosmoi believe so, i'll look at it again21:59
dr_williscosmo:  if its blank/cleanly formated. you could just try unpluggibng it and plugging it back in22:00
cosmodr_willis, already tried that :p22:00
dr_williscosmo:  check output of the 'dmesg' command it may show what /dev/sdXX device the thing is. you will need to know that to mount it by hand22:01
cosmodr_willis, well now it's got one fat32 partition taking up most of the drive, and 2.49mb partition taking up some other space that I couldn't write over.22:06
mattwj2002hi guys22:07
dr_willisthats sort of normal these days. rounding of the partion boundries..22:07
wifioregonMy gnome-panel network system monitor is showing I'm sending data at 93kbps, even when nothing is open! It's kindof freaking me out. How do I see what is using network resources?22:07
cosmookay22:07
mattwj2002hi guys22:07
dr_williscosmo:  sudo fdisk -l   should show the  partions  /dev/sdXXX path22:07
wifioregonI'm thinking maybe its Ubuntu cloud22:08
mattwj2002I can't upgrade between 12.04.1 and 12.10 through the command line22:08
mattwj2002any idea why22:08
mattwj2002?22:08
wifioregonmattwj2002:  what command are you using?22:08
mattwj2002do-release-upgrade22:08
mattwj2002oops22:08
wifioregonmattwj2002:  with sudo right?22:08
mattwj2002right22:08
wifioregonhmm. And doing it from the update-manager GUI isn't an option?22:09
cosmodr_willis, looks like its dev sdc122:09
mattwj2002no I probably could22:09
mattwj2002matt@node1:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade22:09
mattwj2002Checking for a new Ubuntu release22:09
mattwj2002No new release found22:09
mattwj2002matt@node1:~$22:09
FloodBot1mattwj2002: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:09
mattwj2002sorry for the flood22:09
cosmoer rather, /dev/sdc122:09
wolfmitchellWhere is uuid-dev installed to?22:10
dr_willisyou need to tell it to look for non LTS releases mattwj200222:10
parisHi folks! I don't know why I can not use a phone in gmail, any suggestions I greatly appreciate ? PS. I have install the google talk-plugin and nothing at all.22:10
escottmattwj2002, you are not configured to go to non-lts releases22:10
crimsonmane"locate uuid-dev"22:10
mattwj2002yup I just found that in the gui!22:10
mattwj2002:)22:10
dr_williscosmo:  if you want to moubnt it by hand you can. or make a fstab entry for it.22:11
dr_williscosmo:  or try installng/running the ntfs-config tool and it should make a fstab entry for it for you.22:11
dr_willis!vfat22:11
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE22:11
cosmoi don't know what any of that means but i'll google around22:11
wolfmitchellcrimsonmane, no results, but I installed it in apt-get22:11
dr_willisits weird its not doing it automatically..22:11
mattwj2002upgrading now! :D22:12
cosmoi just want a fat32 partition on it to play media with a ps322:12
dr_williscosmo:  sort guide... 'sudo mkdir /media/mydrive'  'sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mydrive  '22:12
crimsonmanecosmo: there is a product called PLEX that will do that22:12
dr_willisplex is nice. ;)22:12
crimsonmaneno need for NTFS22:12
dr_willistheres other DLNA/UPNP servers that can stream to ps3 or other devices22:13
mattwj2002okay thanks guys22:13
mattwj2002bye!22:13
dr_williseven my android phone can work as a upnp server to my home network. ;)22:13
Smackbookhow come, after all these years, the ubuntu shutdown animation is still so glitchy?22:13
Smackbooki have 5 ubuntu machines and I swear everyone one of them glitches in some unique way when you shutdown/restart22:14
* dr_willis wonders why we need a shutdown animation.22:14
Smackbookthats legit22:14
dr_willisdepends on the video drivers from what ive seen. My netbooks seem to work fine.22:14
dr_willisnvidia systems with nvidia drivers.. not so good.22:14
Smackbookahh that might be the problem, thats mostly what I have22:14
Smackbooka lot of times it shows a terminal with just the animated dot sprites on top of it22:14
dr_willisthats why then. Pymounth and the non gpl nvidia drivers.. have.. issues ;)22:15
Smackbookgotcha22:15
dr_willisSmackbook:  yep. i see that also.22:15
dr_willissomthing with how the drivers/plymounth handle it all. I never did see what we gained by plymouth.. other then lots of hassles.22:15
dr_willis'we cant scare people with boot messages' ;)22:15
dr_willisbbl22:16
Smackbookok22:16
inyoothi22:16
gustav__I don't have any problems with shutdowns. I have an nVidia GPU.22:17
gustav__Sometimes I think I do but that's just because I do shutdown instead of poweroff.22:17
gustav__So I get confused and think it's crashed.22:17
gustav__When it isn't...22:18
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Awesomewmit you use terminal commands to shutdown the computer  there less problems22:22
Awesomewm#if22:23
inyooti just install ubuntu 12.10 and it's working great... after automatic updating, it cannot connect to wifi... could someone help me troubleshoot?22:24
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Awesomewmmod4 +c22:24
_jmz_can anyone help me out with hotlinking protection?  I have literally gone through 50 diff guides for mod_rewrite.  I even tried a python script but it just denies access to everything.  running ubuntu server with apache22:24
Guest13549i just installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS and since i installed it  - i cant see the device for network and also no wifi working ..... please i need help22:25
DarKModeGuest13549 what version did u install ?22:27
Guest13549Darkmode: 12.04 LTS22:27
saulotoledoHello all! I'm with Gnome 3.6 here, but I can't change my wallpapper. There are some other application running upside with another wallpapper, but I'm unable to identify it. Somebody can help me?22:28
DarKModetry ifconfig -a from the command line22:28
Guest13549DarkMode: but iam not able to connect to internet if it will ask me to be online to check it22:29
Smackbookis there a cli command that will recurse into a directory and tell you how much space is used in it?22:30
DarKModeso you have it dual boot with windows22:30
DarKModei tought you have it on anther machine22:30
gustav__Smackbook: du -h dir will show you the size of dir and subdirectories.22:30
Smackbookgustav__: thanks i knew it was similar to df22:31
Guest13549DarkMode:  iam online Via the test Version .... and i dont know why on the test option - i can connect online - but when i go on normal booting from my PC - its not working at all - and not seeing the device and not seeing driver22:32
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jagginessGuest13549, maybe the test version is newer than the installed OS22:34
tobias_93:part22:34
DarKModetest version you mean live CD or usb ?22:35
Guest13549Jagginess: i installed my OS from the same CD which allowing me the test version22:35
inyooti just install ubuntu 12.10 and it's working great... after automatic updating, it cannot connect to wifi... could someone help me troubleshoot?22:35
jagginessGuest13549, oh that.. that i'm not sure if it's as well tested as the non-livecd installer22:36
jagginessGuest13549, oh wait.. did you make a usb-liveinstaller ?(some usb makers are faulty)22:37
DarKModeGuest13549 i suggest that you reinstall it again and check the cd fron defect .22:37
jagginessGuest13549, (live is now embedded with an install option)22:37
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DarKMode Guest13549 we can't help you if you aren't on the same machine22:37
xd-xd-xd-xd-HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA22:38
Guest13549Jagginess: yes i did it from a USB22:38
gustav__HAHA. What the deus?22:38
Guest13549DarkMode : iam on the same machine - BUT - iam using the test version to be online -22:38
unknown-Does anyone have a go-to resource list for kworker going haywire? Or want to walk me through profiling the kernel so I can submit a bug report?22:38
MerisI'm trying to format a microSD card of 16GB with EXT2, but I get a warning about reported errors while writing superblocks. Which logfile should I consult to check out the details?22:39
wolfmitchellWould find -D search / libuuid.so #Look for the file libuuid.so in the whole system?22:39
DarKModeGuest13549 yes i know the same machine but not the same os22:39
Guest13549Jagginess : while i was creating my USB - the PC didnt give me any report  about any error22:39
jagginessGuest13549, which iso and usb tool did you use? (i tend to stick with pendrive usb maker if one uses m$win)22:39
jribwolfmitchell: probably not.  But why do you want to do that?22:40
Guest13549Jagginess i used  normale " USB desk creator "22:40
saulotoledoI'm with Gnome 3.6 here, but I can't change my wallpapper. There are some other application running upside with another wallpapper, but I'm unable to identify it. Somebody can help me?22:40
DarKModewolfmitchell try find / -name libuuid.so22:40
zamutniihello, my home fs (ext4) shows 1Gb space left, when I know that I have about 30Gb free. 'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix it.22:41
jagginessGuest13549, do you see an interface (like eth0?) when you do sudo ifconfig -a ?22:41
Guest13549DarkMode : do you want me to tell you some special information - i can go work on the normal OS - and tell you the output22:42
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DarKModeGuest13549 ys i need to know the output of ifconfig -a22:44
zamutniiHow to fix my free disk space count? 'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix it.22:44
Guest13549DarkMode: i will do it and come back here - if you kindly wait22:44
DarKModeok22:45
gustav__zamutnii: Why did it get like that?22:45
wolfmitchelljrib, as I'm trying to use luarocks to get luuid, and it's doing this: Error: Could not find expected file libuuid.so for LIBUUID -- you may have to install LIBUUID in your system and/or pass LIBUUID_DIR or LIBUUID_LIBDIR to the luarocks command. Example: luarocks install luuid LIBUUID_DIR=/usr/local22:45
wolfmitchelland I have uuid-dev installed22:45
DarKModewolfmitchell you have lib depandency problem22:46
zamutniigustav__, I needed to make a swap partition bigger. It was to the right of my home partition (ext4). I used gparted to reduce the size of the home partition by 1Gb. There was 31Gb available. After gparted said, it was 30 free, I created a swap partition 1Gb bigger, after reboot, my system says that I only have less then a Gig available22:48
elkcloneclose22:48
DarKModewolfmitchell try apt-get install libuuid22:49
gustav__zamutnii: Check and verify that the partitions actually became like you wanted.22:49
wolfmitchellDarKMode, E: Unable to locate package libuuid22:49
wolfmitchellit's libuuid122:49
wolfmitchell"libuuid1 is already the newest version."22:50
DarKModewolfmitchell try apt-get install libuuid122:50
wolfmitchelldid that just now22:50
wolfmitchellI have it22:50
wolfmitchellwhat version is in the repositories?22:50
DarKModei forgot the number1 in the end22:50
DarKModeit libuuid1 not libuuid22:50
wolfmitchellaccording to https://github.com/LuaDist/luuid/blob/master/dist.info it needs version 2.16 or above22:50
mehworki downloaded google chrome's official .deb package but ubuntu is saying it's a 'bad quality package that could damage my system'... i assume this is obviously not likely and maybe because ubuntu is a little firefox biased?22:52
DarKModewolfmitchell it 2.20-122:53
blackshirtmehwork, it related you install from third party download .... If you need, maybe better to add google chrome repositories when  available22:54
DarKModejust try apt-get install libuuid1 and you will be fine22:54
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DarKModewolfmitchell aptitude show libuuid1 for more informations22:55
zamutniigustav___, gparted showed them as I wanted and it shows 30Gb available.22:55
wolfmitchellDarKMode, I have it already... proof: pastebin.com/qjM8JdUh22:57
ubuntu__DarkMode: the out put is -  sudo iconfig :command not found22:58
ubuntu__DarkMode : i want to paste the pictures for you - but i dont know how and where22:58
blackshirtifconfig, check your typo22:58
DarKModeubuntu__ it not sudo iconfig it sudo ifconfig -a22:58
MagiobiwanIt's ifconfig22:58
ubuntu__DarkMode : ok I have some picture from test version - i would like to paste it22:59
DarKModeubuntu__ifyou can't get ifconfig to work it better to re install the system22:59
DarKModeubuntu__ check the usb itegrety befor installing23:00
ubuntu__DarkMode - if i will reinstall the system from the same copy which i have - what can be the solution ?23:01
ubuntu__DarkMode - its not going to be the same error23:01
ubuntu__?23:01
DarKModeubuntu__ yes this way i told you to check for usb integraty23:02
blackshirtreinstall was just to be last solutions ....23:02
DarKModeubuntu__ it in the boot menu23:02
ubuntu__DarkMode - how to do this - guide me please23:02
DarKModewait23:03
blackshirtIf everything should be solved with reinstalling, i think it comes from "windows" world :d :d23:03
gordonjcpblackshirt: even with Linux there comes a point where it's just easier to nuke and pave a system23:03
DarKModeubuntu__ from the system that you are on right now go to the directory where you have the iso image23:03
blackshirtgordonjcp, sure ... Nothing perfect ...23:04
eeepcwhat ever even means23:04
zamutniiHow to fix my free disk space count? 'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix it.23:04
ubuntu__DarkMode:  Done23:04
DarKModeubuntu__ the run md5sum your_buntu_SOfile.iso23:05
DarKModepaste me the result23:05
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ubuntu__DarkMode : and ?23:07
DarKModeubuntu__ paste me the hash line23:07
DarKModeso i can compare it with the one they have in the website23:07
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_jmz_can anyone help me out with hotlinking protection?  I have literally gone through 50 diff guides for mod_rewrite.  I even tried a python script but it just denies access to everything.  running ubuntu server with apache23:09
ubuntu__DarkMode: i dont see any thing named HASH line .... are you looking for something related to the wifi? because i see something about the wifi here23:09
ubuntu__DarkMode : this is what i see here about wifi               ./pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/bcmwl-kernel-source_5.100.82.112+bdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb23:10
kmicuHow can I find in which texlive package is e.g. citeref.sty ? TexLive 2012 for 12.10 does not contain tlmgr (tex package manager) :/23:10
dz0nyhi, anybody with deb building experience?23:11
DarKModeubuntu__ go to the derectory where the iso file not this one23:12
maslois there any way to see ssh tunnel traffic from the actual server? to knwo what is being browsed through the tunnel? if you have root access to the server that is23:12
MerisI'm trying to format a microSD card of 16GB with EXT2, but I get a warning about reported errors while writing superblocks. Which logfile should I consult to check out the details?23:12
ubuntu__DarkMode : iam in the directory where i have the ISO23:12
sqwkWhen running top I get Mem:   1048576k total,  1048576k used, but adding the processes up get my to at most 15% of memory. What used memory is it talking about?23:12
ubuntu__DarkMode : i double clicked the iso file - it opened - and i opened the text file you asked me - and i searched for any thing called Hash and i didnt find it23:13
ubuntu__DarkMode : sorry if i disturb you - but iam new with linux23:14
zamutnii'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix my free disk space count?23:14
zamutniiIt should be 30G available.23:14
DarKModeubuntu__ when you do the ls you should find a file named ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso23:15
Merisubuntu__, Darkmode means the line that shows you the checksum23:15
DarKModeubuntu__ or some thing like that23:15
gordonjcphm23:15
gordonjcpcould you make an ISO that contains its own md5sum?23:16
ddsschi, I got a cron job that runs a php script. what happens when the script isn't finished executing before a cron starts it again? does it open a new process or kill the running one? if so can this be explicitly controlled?23:16
Merisgordonjcp, I don't think you can do that, no23:16
DarKModegordonjcp of course evry file in have it own checksum23:17
ubuntu__DarkMode : where can i pastebin for you23:17
crltnmgnmd5 collisions are achievable..23:17
DarKModehere23:17
gordonjcpMeris: I think you could, but you'd be in the realms of hash collision computing23:17
DarKModeor pv23:17
chris_Hello. I just came from Mint. I am new to linux. I wanted to ask you all if this Distro better than mint for a good all around distro. I'm an average user23:17
crltnmgnbetter off hashing everything except the sum?23:17
gordonjcpcrltnmgn: that would be the sane way to do it23:18
Merisgordonjcp, I have never visited that realm, are there beautiful algorithms lying on the beach there? ;-)23:18
chris_Hello. I just came from Mint. I am new to linux. I wanted to ask you all if this Distro better than mint for a good all around distro. I'm an average user23:18
ikoniachris_: no better, no worse, it's personal choice which you like best23:18
ReAzemchris_, No. Ubuntu uses the same packages, only thing is that you get a different installer and default installer23:18
DarKModegordonjcp just do md5sum yourISOfile.iso and you will get it23:18
eeepceasypeasy's quite cool! :-)23:18
gordonjcpchris_: mint isn't really supported here, and "my distro is better than your distro" discussions are discouraged23:18
ddsschi, I got a cron job that runs a script. what happens when the script isn't finished executing before a cron starts it again? does it open a new process or kill the running one? if so can this be explicitly controlled?23:18
ikoniachris_: asking the same question in 60 seconds isn't really appreciated23:18
chris_thank you23:19
chris_:)23:19
chris_sorry guys.23:19
ddsscikonia: how about 120 seconds?23:19
ddsscikonia: how about 2 seconds?23:19
eeepctho my ubuntu one control panel doesn't work..23:19
cihhanHi all! I need some help for command line: I'm trying to run experiments on different computers and I'm sending run command via ssh. I want to know when all those computers finished experiment so that my script can start another work. Do you have any suggestions for that?23:20
ikoniacihhan: build logic into the scripts and maybe alerting23:20
xubuntuCan someone direct me to an Xubuntu server?23:21
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ikoniaGuest50378: the channel #xubuntu is for xubuntu discussion23:21
gordonjcpGuest50378: there's a #xubuntu channel, if that's what you mean23:21
Guest50378Thanks23:21
chris_is there a program on linux which tells me who is on my home router network?23:21
cihhanikonia: Can u give me example? I dont have much experience with scripting23:21
cihhanMaybe I should ask that to bash as well?23:21
ikoniacihhan: the guys in #bash can give you guidence23:22
diver47591Anyone heard any buzz about Ubuntu for Android?23:22
gordonjcpchris_: not really; you could look at the DHCP leases table in your router if you're interested23:22
ikoniano23:22
ddsschi, I got a cron job that runs a script. what happens when the script isn't finished executing before a cron starts it again? does it open a new process or kill the running one? if so can this be explicitly controlled?23:22
cihhanikonia: thanks a lot :)23:22
gordonjcpchris_: you could also try nmapping your internal network block23:22
chris_thank you23:22
escottcihhan, if you just run "ssh user@host -c experiment.sh &" then just check "jobs"23:22
Merisdiver47591, better to discuss that on #ubuntu-offtopic23:22
dr_willisdiver47591:  theres ububntu in a vm that runs ON android.. then theres ubuntu for arm hardware in #ubuntu-arm23:22
gordonjcpdr_willis: isn't it a chroot, rather than vm?23:23
cihhanescott: hmm, let me try that now23:23
escottcihhan, http://prll.sourceforge.net/shell_parallel.html23:23
diver47591Thanks,diver out23:23
dr_willisgordonjcp:  i never really tried it. I thought it was using a vm.23:23
gordonjcpdr_willis: I haven't got anything that'll run it, but a chroot makes more sense23:23
ddsscanyone here got experience with http://supervisord.org/introduction.html ?23:23
cihhanescott: hmm, thanks let me read this :)23:24
dr_willisgordonjcp:  theres a dozen of them in differnt vaeriantions on the market. :)23:24
gordonjcpye23:24
zamutnii'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix my free disk space count?23:25
zamutniiIt should be 30G available.23:25
gordonjcpzamutnii: there is some space reserved for root23:26
Karlo_GRUB question.  Is (hd0,0) another name for (hd0) ?23:26
bradyhey guys, my wife and i use her ubuntu box on a pretty regular basis to watch flash movies , which for a long time i thought the computer was just going to sleep, but after having exhastively investigated that as the problem, i discovered it was not actually the computer falling asleep, but something about the flash application itself that goes black after a some inactivity of the mouse.. i was curious if there was any sort of hack i could empl23:26
escottzamutnii, what filesystem is this?23:26
Karlo_(I'm running GRUB 0.97, it seems.)23:26
dr_willisKarlo_:  hd0,0 would be the first partion on the first hd in grub talk.23:27
gordonjcpzamutnii: what happens is that some space is kept aside so that as far as the system itself is concerned (and indeed the root user) the filesystem is never *totally* full23:27
Jordan_UKarlo_: No, and why are you using grub legacy?23:27
rinzlerI have an hdtv hooked up via vga. how can I create an xrandr configuration for this output that can fit my display?23:27
gustav__zamutnii: 30gb available? That's not what you want. I don't know what you mean.23:27
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dr_willisbut i THOUGHT grub2 started using  1 for the first partition..23:27
gordonjcpzamutnii: if / fills up completely all sorts of bad stuff happens23:27
Karlo_brady, sounds like http://xkcd.com/196/23:27
escottzamutnii, 5% of 500GB is 25GB so thats where your missing 30GB are. you could release them to other users with tune2fs23:29
Karlo_Jordan_U, that's what's on my system -- and I can't easily install anything newer until I can get the network up!23:29
Gyro54Hi!23:29
rinzlerKarlo_: I was thinking the same thing :P23:29
Karlo_"info grub" does say that it uses origin 1 indexing, which is why I was asking.  But maybe the info file is newer than the grub executable.23:29
bradylol karlo, hilarous that there is almost an exact comic of my situation23:29
bradyso how can write that mouse jiggling script23:30
Gyro54I have a problem with my Unity Icons and Libre Calc. The Icon goes blank and I cant access the open spreadsheet?23:30
Karlo_Aha.  Yes, info grub is describing 1.98, and I'm running 0.97.  How did they get out of sync?23:31
Karlo_Anyway, it's entirely possible that the feature I *want* is only available in grub2.23:32
dr_willisKarlo_:  did you do a clean install? or a upgrade?23:32
Jordan_UKarlo_: Did you install the "grub" package?23:32
zamutniigordonjcp, so, how do I release it to user? 30Gig is a lot of reserved space.23:33
gordonjcpzamutnii: you can adjust it with hdparm23:33
gordonjcpzamutnii: I recommend leaving it alone23:33
gordonjcpzamutnii: 30GB is nothing these days23:33
dr_williszamutnii:  the tune2fs command can tweak the reserved space on ext2/3/423:33
gordonjcpyeah, sorry, tune2fs, not hdparm23:33
dr_willisI tend to set reserved to be like 0% on my external usb data drives. but like 1% on my system23:34
gordonjcpzamutnii: seriously, if 30GB is a big deal to you, paypal me 20 quid for postage and I'll send you some 30GB drives instead of binning them23:34
dr_willisgordonjcp:  take them apart and use the shiny disks for mirrors.. and the magnets are fun to play with. ;P23:34
Karlo_As of about a month ago, I was in a state that I'd assumed to be up to date, according to update-manager; still running 10.04 LTS at that time.  It was during the attempt to upgrade to 12.04.1 LTS that my machine was left unbootable, which is what I've been trying to fix for the last month.23:35
zamutniiescott, /home (ext4), I have a / on a separate partition, also ext423:35
gordonjcpKarlo_: if it's been that problematic, why not just flatten it and reinstall?23:35
dr_willis10.04 uses grub2 by default if you id a clean install of it23:35
escottzamutnii, i initially misread the 800M as 800G its the reserved space of ext4 for root23:35
zamutniigustav__, 1G is available, but 30G is needed.23:35
Jordan_UKarlo_: What happens when you try to boot? Have you done anything to try to fix it yet?23:36
zamutniigordonjcp, nothing when you have the money, currently to buy a new drive, also it's in the netbook :)23:37
LucidGuyGot me a 40TB ifs filesystem with 88.89% fragmentation .. shall I defrag?23:38
LucidGuyxfs not ifs23:38
zamutniigordonjcp, this happened after I reduced the home partition by 1Gb, using gparted23:38
Jordan_ULucidGuy: What tool is reporting that fragmentation?23:39
LucidGuyJordan_U, xfs_db23:39
Jordan_ULucidGuy: Could you please pastebin the entire command and its output?23:40
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LucidGuySure ..  xfs_db -c frag -r /dev/mapper/device..       output:   actual 134876361, ideal 14984301, fragmentation factor 88.89%23:41
tomehbHi, Can anyone recommend a PCI-Express2 network card for Ubuntu? Really struggling with the Broadcom BCM5723 atm :(23:41
Guest7408ATI RADEON Yo-MaMa 2GDDR423:42
Karlo_gordonjcp: I haven't been able to do a fresh install, either.23:42
LucidGuyJordan_U, thoughts?23:43
gordonjcpKarlo_: bummer23:43
gordonjcpKarlo_: it's a shame my crystal ball is broken, otherwise I could telepathically diagnose it for you23:43
Karlo_Current state on boot: "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  I've heard that this might be merely the apt-get database being botched -- does that make sense?  (I do know that it *is* in fact botched at this point, but it seems strange that this would be reported as a not-ready disk drive.)23:43
Guest7408urfix.com23:44
Guest7408http://www.urfix.com23:44
Karlo_I can press M to get to maintenance mode (runlevel 1), with a root shell, and I can remount the root directory to be writable, but I haven't found a way to fix things from there.  "apt-get -f install" results in a few dozen errors; evidently it can't fix them without access to the network.  I don't see a way to bring up networking without going to the usual runlevel, and any attempt to do that runs into the original error again.23:44
Guest7408http://blog.urfix.com23:44
gordonjcpKarlo_: sounds like something has done something crazy to /etc/fstab23:44
gordonjcpKarlo_: that would not prevent you running the installer though23:44
thufir_what do I need to install to get apache to run foo.php files?23:45
ikoniathufir_: apache and the php module23:46
thufir_ libapache2-mod-php5   ?23:46
ikoniathats one23:46
Karlo_The CD drive doesn't work.  The machine has no option to boot from a Flash drive.  I finally obtained a floppy disk that I can boot from -- and an image of 12.04.1 on a flash drive, which I can tell it to install -- but it either hangs, or kernel panics.  (It's inconsistent.)23:46
ikoniaKarlo_: sounds like a hardwar eproblem23:47
ikoniaproblem23:47
thufir_ikonia: it wants to remove apache2-mpm-worker to install libapache2-mod-php5.  proceed?23:47
ikoniathufir_: sure23:47
Karlo_I now have a copy of ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso on the hard disk, but I'm still working on how to make something bootable from there.23:48
ikoniaKarlo_: sounds like a hardware problem23:49
LucidGuyJordan_U, or not .. I'm off23:50
metap0dHey everyone, I just plugged in a router directly to my computer running 12.10 because i'd like to set it up as an access point. However I'm having issues ... the network manager just keeps spinning as if it's trying to connect and then says "Wired Network Disconnnected" in a notification in the top right23:51
metap0dI tried running ifconfig eth0, but it's not being given an ip address23:51
Jordan_Uikonia: The fact that single user mode still works suggests otherwise.23:51
SimonPHOENIXhello,23:51
metap0di'm still very very new at this, but what could I be doing wrong? Someone told me I might have to turn on dhcp for ethernet?23:51
ikoniaJordan_U: I didn't see a message saying single user mode worked23:51
ikoniametap0d: ifconfig won't give it an IP23:52
ikoniametap0d: dhcp will23:52
LuizAngiolettiHello. I've have U12.04 installed in two different machines, a netbook and a desktop PC. When using the netbook, right-clicking, I get the option of creating a launcher. In the desktop setup, I don't. Why does that happen?23:52
metap0dikonia: I was just using it to check if it had an ip, i don't know how to give it one : /23:52
Jordan_UKarlo_: Do you have a USB drive or blank CD available?23:52
SimonPHOENIXi have installed icecast2 on my server, but I have problem with connection with my radio, what kind of software from windows system can connect with my icecast2 on linux ubuntu server?23:52
T|ASKHi, how to automatically switch to sleep mode after XX minutes?23:52
metap0dikonia: I only know of dhcpcd from the book i was reading, how could I turn dhcp on for my ethernet?23:53
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ikoniametap0d: dhcp needs to be running as a server on your router, dhcp as a client needs to be configured on your machine, through network manager23:53
Karlo_Jordan_U, yes23:53
rootsWhats the command to shutdown?23:54
asciishutdown -t1 now23:54
ikoniashutdown is the command23:54
bkc_shutdown -h now23:54
T|ASKto sleep mode?23:55
asciihello23:55
Karlo_I've been doing 4-hop copying to get files from the Web onto the broken machine's disk.  Slow but effective.23:55
asciiI'm having some trouble installing lubuntu 12.04. I've tried asking on #lubuntu, but there is nobody there to help23:55
bkc_T|ASK: no, auto-sleep is controlled by the PowerManager in settings23:55
metap0dikonia: I'll check the router then, brb23:56
asciimaybe somebody could help here23:56
bkc_ascii: shoot23:56
T|ASKand I can't set them via system settings here?23:56
asciii'll copy paste23:56
ascii<ascii> hello23:56
ascii<ascii> I'm having problems installing lubuntu on a notebok23:56
ascii<ascii> notebook23:56
ascii<ascii> acer aspire 362023:56
ascii<ascii> it freezes when detecting hardware23:56
ascii<ascii> no mouse response23:56
FloodBot1ascii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:56
bkc_T|ASK: what?23:56
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bkc_!paste | ascii23:56
ubottuascii: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:56
tahaanyone here on a sony vaio z series with hybrid graphics?23:56
Jordan_UKarlo_: Do you have another Ubuntu machine that's functioning better, or a LiveCD/USB (of any kind) you can use? (while you can make a bootable USB from here, it's easier to do from a more sane environment).23:57
bkc_ascii: I'm guessing you need too set nomodeset on the boot parameters for the kernel :)23:57
asciioh, did you manage to read that?23:58
bkc_6lines23:58
asciiwait23:58
asciia sec23:58
bkc_or 2 ;)23:58
asciihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1352132/23:58
Karlo_I have a friend running Ubuntu, at the other end of a chat line right now.  She's been asking me to do the same commands in lockstep, but it seems we have different versions of grub, among other things.23:58
asciithere you go23:58
T|ASKbkc_:  oh, I see power maanger not brightness settings23:59
Jordan_UKarlo_: So you don't have another GNU/Linux system of any sort yourself, correct?23:59

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