[00:00] <scottyg_> psusi permission denied
[00:00] <psusi> scottyg_, what was the exact command?
[00:00] <scottyg_> please write a statement for me to cut and paste!!!!!!
[00:00] <scottyg_> sudo mount -t cifs -o username=SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\scottyg,password=pex571 //192.168.6.3/e$ /media/shares
[00:01] <scottyg_> can you believe how impossible it is to access a bloody drive from this STINKING ods?
[00:01] <escott> scottyg_, thats probably introducing another escaping issue. you need to escape the \ with either \\ or quoting the username/password string
[00:01] <ikonia> scottyg_: drop the attitude
[00:01] <ikonia> it's getting tedious
[00:02] <scottyg_> you are WAY over my head
[00:02] <psusi> scottyg_, you left out the quotes around the username.... smbclient -U SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\\scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$
[00:02] <BobJonkman> scottyg_: You probably need to escape the backslash, eg SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\\scottyg
[00:02] <scottyg_> again....way way way over my head
[00:02] <BobJonkman> escott: :)
[00:02] <scottyg_> i beg you to write the command so that i can paste it in terminal
[00:02] <escott> scottyg_, i you type "echo \s" in the shell it prints "s" not "\s" you need to have \\s or you need to have quotes 'username=blablah\blah,password=blah'
[00:03] <scottyg_> escott.  that is difficult for me to get
[00:03] <scottyg_>   what would the correct command look like?
[00:03] <psusi> smbclient -U SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\\scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$
[00:04] <scottyg_> scottyg@scottyg-laptop:~$ smbclient -U SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\\scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$
[00:04] <scottyg_> Enter SCOTTYG-W7-DESK\scottyg's password:
[00:04] <scottyg_> session request to 192.168.6.3 failed (Called name not present)
[00:04] <scottyg_> Domain=[SCOTTYG-W7-DESK] OS=[Windows 7 Ultimate 7601 Service Pack 1] Server=[Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1]
[00:04] <scottyg_> tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[00:04] <FloodBot1> scottyg_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <psusi> scottyg_, well, don't know what to tell you... windows doesn't like your username or password
[00:04] <psusi> check caps lock
[00:04] <scottyg_> no but at least ubuntu can see the other machine...which is miraculous!
[00:04] <ikonia> http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2004-April/085175.html
[00:04] <ikonia> read that
[00:05] <thanogai> super os i love it
[00:05] <trism> john: you aren't on oneiric (11.10) are you?
[00:05] <scottyg_> caps lock is off and my friend just connected with the same credentials from her pc in win vista...flawlessly
[00:05] <Chaterz> thanogai, what th hell is super os ?
[00:06] <thanogai> ubuntu
[00:06] <escott> scottyg_, please read the link ikonia sent you above
[00:06] <psusi> smbclient -L SCOTTYG-W7-DESK -U scottyg //192.168.6.3/e\$
[00:06] <scottyg_> i read it twice:)
[00:07] <psusi> that *shouldn't* be required since this isn't win95
[00:07] <scottyg_> will that help me map a shared win7 drive from ubuntu?
[00:07] <ikonia> psusi: if you check a little deeper, you'll find it still appears to be valid in vista, so I'd assume it's a good possability it's still valid in win 7
[00:07] <ikonia> scottyg_: if you'd read it twice, you'd know the answer
[00:08] <ghostconn> how would i extract the files out of a .exe windows driver
[00:08] <ikonia> ghostconn: you don't,
[00:08] <scottyg_> so then you are telling me it IS impossible to map a win7 shared resource from ubuntu?
[00:08] <ikonia> yes
[00:09] <djangrono> nedd help plzz
[00:09] <mjc_> suop
[00:10] <mjc_> *sup djangrono
[00:10] <scottyg_> Domain=[SCOTTYG-W7-DESK] OS=[Windows 7 Ultimate 7601 Service Pack 1] Server=[Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1]
[00:10] <scottyg_> 	Sharename       Type      Comment
[00:10] <scottyg_> 	---------       ----      -------
[00:10] <scottyg_> 	ADMIN$          Disk      Remote Admin
[00:10] <scottyg_> 	C$              Disk      Default share
[00:10] <FloodBot1> scottyg_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <djangrono> i just bought a new laptop
[00:10] <djangrono> and my wireless not detected
[00:10] <djangrono> asus x43u
[00:10] <BobJonkman> scottyg_ et al: The authentication mechanism for Windows file shares has changed several times since Win95, so that you can only map a drive from a more recent version of Win to an older version.  eg. mapping from Win7 to a WinXP share is OK, but can't map a drive from WinXP to a Win7 share
[00:10] <djangrono> T.T
[00:11] <mjc_> 2 secs
[00:11] <ikonia> BobJonkman: what's nonsense, I have a map from an XP desktop to a Windows 7 desktop now
[00:11] <nicekiwi> hey, ive got a SATA DVD drive and im trying to play a DVD with VLC but it just wont work?
[00:11] <scottyg_> hi bob...maybe you dont understand....i am using UBUNTU to try and map to a win7 shared drive:)
[00:12] <scottyg_> session request to 192.168.6.3 failed (Called name not present)
[00:12] <mjc_> djangrono what version of ubuntu and 32 or 64 ?
[00:12] <scottyg_> that was after i followed the instuctions in ikonias post
[00:13] <scottyg_> ubuntu 12   64 bit and windows 7 64 bit
[00:13] <scottyg_> has anyone here ever mapped a win 7 drive from ubuntu?
[00:13] <ikonia> scottyg_: yes, as I told you earlier
[00:14] <drkokandy> what do you mean mapped scottyg_ ? I frequently use samba to access files on local Win machines from Ubuntu, and I've shared from Ubuntu machines back
[00:15] <BobJonkman> ikonia: It may be possible to map from a WinXP computer to a Win7 share if you have admin rights on one of the computers (can't remember which one needs admin rights, or if both do).  And I don't have enough computers running Windows to be able to test...
[00:16] <ikonia> //alice.internal/c$  224G   93G  131G  42% /tmp/test
[00:16] <ikonia> just mapped a windows 7 drive now
[00:16] <BobJonkman> ikonia: Do you authenticate to the Win7 computer with admin credentials?
[00:16] <ChrisTX> BobJonkman: just wrong
[00:16] <ikonia> BobJonkman: no
[00:16] <ChrisTX> you don't need admin credentials
[00:16] <djangrono> someone plzz help
[00:17] <ChrisTX> what you think is password protected sharing
[00:17] <ChrisTX> if you leave that on, on the W7 machine it will obviously require a password
[00:17] <blackshirt> djangrono,maybe you want describe your problem?
[00:17] <ghostconn> can anyone help me solve this ? Bus 002 Device 006: ID 1385:5f01 Netgear, Inc WPN111 (no firmware)
[00:17] <BobJonkman> ChrisTX, ikonia: Interesting...  That's not been my experience
[00:18] <mjc_> djangrono: I asked you a minute ago what version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:18] <ikonia> ghostconn: the device has no firmware on your system
[00:18] <ikonia> ghostconn: the firmware will get loaded when you load the ubuntu module for it
[00:18] <ghostconn> ikonia : so should I just give up hope lol
[00:18] <djangrono> i just bought a new laptop @blackshirt
[00:19] <djangrono> and the wireless not detected
[00:19] <mjc_> yes
[00:19] <mjc_> we get that
[00:19] <blackshirt> djangrono, what wifi card you have ?
[00:20] <mjc_> djangrono: but ill say it again, what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[00:20] <djangrono> @blackshirt: DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=maverick DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.10" Linux icha-ayu 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 5 19:35:26 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux icha@icha-ayu:~$ lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06) 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [10
[00:21] <kostkon> djangrono, 10.10?
[00:21] <ikonia> djangrono: why have you put ubuntu 10.10 on a new laptop ?
[00:21] <k1l_> djangrono: 10.10 is out of support. install  a release with is supported
[00:21] <djangrono> @ikonia: because i love the old ubuntu
[00:21] <anastasya> ikonia, lol
[00:21] <k1l_> djangrono: then use 10.04, its a LTS
[00:21] <escott> nicekiwi, did you install dvdcss?
[00:22] <DarKMode> djangrono try 12.04 th new hardware is supported
[00:22] <john> trism: i am on 12.04 (LXDE)
[00:22] <mjc_> djangrono: for that laptop all the drivers are fully supported on 12.04 (LTS) for sure.  Can run any DTE ontop of it if you want.
[00:22] <blackshirt> djangrono, i think that was for eth interfaces
[00:22] <scottyg_> dr kokandy.  i bet you cannot get my ubuntu machine to even CONNECT to my shared win 7 drive.
[00:22] <djangrono> just my wireless thing
[00:22] <scottyg_>  it is IMPOSSIBLE
[00:22] <ikonia> scottyg_: no it's not
[00:22] <brunost> does anybody know of any good guides I can follow to make ubuntu server boot from a pendrive to ram?
[00:22] <Erealz> is rsync capable of monitoring a folder and any changes and pust those new files over to set destination?
[00:23] <ikonia> scottyg_: I've just done it and showed you
[00:23] <djangrono> @blackshirt: how to know the wireless card?
[00:23] <jrib> Erealz: not by itself afaik.  But you could use inotify for that
[00:23] <scottyg_> you have?!?!! please send me the scripts or the code!!!
[00:23] <escott> Erealz, it doesn't "monitor" but yes
[00:23] <scottyg_> all i get are errors when i try!!!
[00:23] <kostkon> djangrono, you won't get any support for an version of ubuntu that is eol.
[00:24] <scottyg_> ikonia, i eagerly await your commands that will let me access a shared win 7 drive from ubuntu!!!
[00:24] <djangrono> @kostkon: that's why i go to the forum :D
[00:24] <kostkon> djangrono, try xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04 or 12.10,
[00:24] <blackshirt> djangrono, commonlya new laptop was built in with two network devices, one for lan card ethernet and one for wireleess devices
[00:25] <dougbb> xubuntu++ :)
[00:25] <Erealz> id like this to always run  when system start im guessing this can be acoblished with cronjob what the correct syntax for accomplishing sed feet?
[00:25] <scottyg_> when the networking guy from the job gave up, i thought it was impossible!
[00:25] <dougbb> any suggestions for this problem?  vi bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[00:25] <dougbb> bash: eval: line -978: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[00:25] <dougbb> bash: eval: line -978: `compgen -f -X !!(*.@(o|so|so.!(conf|*/*)|a|[rs]pm|gif|jp?(e)g|mp3|mp?(e)g|avi|asf|ogg|class)|*.@(O|SO|SO.!(CONF|*/*)|A|[RS]PM|GIF|JP?(E)G|MP3|MP?(E)G|AVI|ASF|OGG|CLASS)) -- $(quote_readline $cur)'
[00:25] <djangrono> ok blackshirt, how do i know my wireless cars\d?
[00:25] <scottyg_> can anyone please give me the exact syntax to connect a ubuntu machine to a shared win 7 drive?
[00:25] <blackshirt> erealz, i don't know what you need exactlyy,but i think you can read about related to inotify
[00:26] <saustin> For some reason, my Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't seem to recognize boot-repair as a package for installation, and my grub doesn't show my windows partition even though I just installed/booted into it before repairing the grub from a liveCD.  Anyone have thoughts on how I can get a graphical install for grub?
[00:26] <ikonia> scottyg_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1349430/
[00:26] <ikonia> scottyg_: there is proof it's easy
[00:26] <scottyg_> everyone says they can do it, but no one sends the statements
[00:26] <ikonia> scottyg_: I just did
[00:26] <kostkon> djangrono, i'm pretty sure that if oyu install 12.04 or 12.10, your wireless card will work right away.
[00:26] <Erealz> id like to my download folder to synce over any new files to my dropbox
[00:26] <ikonia> kostkon: how are you sure of that
[00:26] <blackshirt> djangrono, lspci | grep Network
[00:26] <ikonia> kostkon: what wireless card does he have ?
[00:27] <scottyg_> well ikonia, when i pasted that, i got a lot of errors!!! im afraid you failed me:(
[00:27] <ikonia> scottyg_: because that's MY command
[00:27] <ikonia> scottyg_: you fail
[00:27] <ikonia> not me
[00:27] <ikonia> mine works
[00:27] <blackshirt> djangrono, lspci | grep ethernet
[00:27] <djangrono> blackshirt: 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 0032 (rev 01)
[00:27] <escott> Erealz, you have two options. you can run the job every 10minutes or so, or you can rely on inotify-watch or one of the other inotify commands to trigger the rsync call
[00:27] <blackshirt> Or something like them
[00:27] <scottyg_> would you like to try another statement?
[00:27] <kostkon> ikonia, eh, ok, let's find out
[00:28] <ikonia> scottyg_: why would I try another statement, that's what's needed for MY network
[00:28] <kostkon> oh it's an atheros
[00:28] <ikonia> it works
[00:28] <blackshirt> djangrono, greats, you have atheros based wifi chipset
[00:28] <scottyg_> i would be delighted to trry anything
[00:28] <ikonia> why would I change it
[00:28] <blackshirt> !atheros
[00:28] <LostAsylum> tabfail
[00:28] <blackshirt> !atheros | djangrono
[00:28] <djangrono> yup atheros blackshirt
[00:28] <scottyg_> sudo mount -t cifs -o username=scottyg,password=pex571 //192.168.6.3/e$ /media/shares
[00:28] <scottyg_> does not work for me:(
[00:28] <ikonia> scottyg_: stop pasting that
[00:28] <blackshirt> !info atheros
[00:28] <ikonia> scottyg_: we know it doesn't work for you
[00:29] <djangrono> thx ubottu
[00:29] <scottyg_> ohhh i was hoping you understood that i need a statement that DOES work...
[00:29] <ikonia> scottyg_: mine does work
[00:29] <Erealz> is it called i watch
[00:29] <scottyg_> would anyone like to try?
[00:29] <LostAsylum> scottyg_: are you dumb?
[00:29] <LostAsylum> google that shit
[00:29] <ikonia> as i've just shown you
[00:29] <ikonia> scottyg_: I've explained why yours doen't work
[00:29] <ikonia> LostAsylum: unacceptable language.
[00:30] <scottyg_> lost.  if i told you i was a drooling moron would you help me?
[00:30] <scottyg_> ikonia, but i addressed that issue
[00:30] <ikonia> scottyg_: no you didn't, that's why you are still typing the same command, despite the info I gave you
[00:30] <LostAsylum> what ikonia: dumb?
[00:30] <scottyg_> ikonia, can you design a statement that will work?
[00:30] <djangrono> so blackshirt? do you have ant advice?
[00:30] <ikonia> scottyg_: re-read the email link I gave you
[00:30] <bazhang> LostAsylum, just move on
[00:30] <Erealz> i  did a apt-cache search and iwatch iseems to me the name of the tool yes or no?
[00:30] <scottyg_> i am not a networking professional....i apologize
[00:31] <LostAsylum> bazhang: smd?
[00:31] <scottyg_>   will youplease write a command that i can try?
[00:31] <ikonia> scottyg_: no
[00:31] <ikonia> scottyg_: as it's specific to your network
[00:31] <escott> !find inotify-watch | Erealz
[00:31] <scottyg_> because you KNOW it wont work:)
[00:31] <bazhang> LostAsylum, stop with the editorializing
[00:31] <ikonia> scottyg_: it does work I've just proved it,
[00:31] <drkokandy> I missed the earlier part of this conversation - Would the GUI way help? Open Nautilus, and in the bottom of the left column you may be able to "Browse Network Shares" - find the machine you'd like to connect to and click it
[00:31] <escott> Erealz, stupid ubottu. package is inotify-tools
[00:31] <LostAsylum> ? english ?
[00:31] <scottyg_> but i typed it in and it failesd
[00:31] <escott> Erealz, and please include peoples nicks in your messages
[00:31] <ikonia> scottyg_: i you think it doesn't work and I'm telling you lies, give up now, bye
[00:31] <dougbb> Erealz: an easy way to solve that problem is to create a Downloads folder in your dropbox, and then make the folder in your home directory a symlink to it
[00:32] <scottyg_>   you have all the info you need about my network!!!!!
[00:32] <scottyg_> can anyone tell me how to access a win 7 shared drive from ubuntu?
[00:32] <ikonia> scottyg_: I've told you
[00:32] <ikonia> scottyg_: I've given you the email list, plus my own working example
[00:32] <LostAsylum> scottyg_ ur network fails and your left hand is probably really sore from moving that mouse.
[00:32] <Erealz> this is true
[00:32] <rypervenche> Wow, it's a broken record in here.
[00:33] <Erealz> that is a good simple yet afective  idea dougbb
[00:33] <scottyg_> ikonia, i have tried to explain i am not an ubuntu guru...nor am  i a networking specialist.
[00:33] <Erealz> i think ill do that
[00:34] <scottyg_> your mom doesnt fail me lost asylum...you chicken raping sodomite:)
[00:34] <dougbb> Erealz: glad I could help :)
[00:34] <drkokandy> or open nautilus, hit ALT, type in connect to server, and insert the location
[00:34] <k3ithk_> The support matrix for "Mactel" stops at 11.10, where can I determine the compatability of 12.04 with a macbook 2,1?
[00:35] <djangrono> blackshirt orang indonesia toh
[00:35] <jrib> k3ithk_: should work fine (I have a 4,1 and have no problems)
[00:35] <jrib> k3ithk_: try a live cd
[00:38] <zack> is it possible to put color in an alias in zsh?
[00:38] <escott> zack, what would that mean?
[00:39] <zack> escott: so say when I type pwd I want it to always turn up green.  is that possible?
[00:39] <zack> escott: I'm thinking along the same lines as how one would color their prompt (which I have done)
[00:39] <escott> zack, no. if you typed in pwd it would show up as pwd
[00:39] <jrib> zack: that should be possible, see something similar at https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-syntax-highlighting
[00:39] <escott> zack, aliases are interpreted after you press ENTER
[00:41] <k3ithk_> jrib: Thanks, will do.
[00:41] <warfaren> hmm can i get help with fglrx here? can't get it to work with my ati card on ubuntu 10.04. or would you recommend me somehwere else?
[00:41] <zack> escott: I understand.  I want the output of pwd to show up green
[00:42] <jrib> zack: wait you want to color the /output/?
[00:42] <escott> zack, you could try aliasing pwd to something like "echo -e \colorcode; pwd; echo -e \colorcode"
[00:43] <zack> escott: that's what i'm trying. i keep getting an error that the color code isn't a proper command. one sec. let me recreate it.
[00:43] <zack> jrib: as i in type pwd, hit enter, and /home/zack turns up in green
[00:43] <escott> zack, aliases in general are not meant to expand to multiple commands
[00:43] <escott> zack, because that breaks things like cp `pwd`/foo /bar
[00:44] <dougbb> you can write a function to accomplish the same thing just as easily
[00:44] <jrib> zack: oh. syntax highlighting actually just highlights your command as you type it.  So you could highlight "pwd".  If you want to color the output, well... if you can't get the alias to work just write a small shell script and put it in ~/bin/ I guess
[00:44] <warfaren> i've got a FireGL V3200 and i donwloaded the fglrx 12.6 drivers as i thought the card would be supported in that version of the driver. however when i'm trying to insmod the module it built i get "No such device"
[00:44] <warfaren> that's a legacy version btw
[00:45] <dougbb> jrib: no need for a script, a function will work just as well
[00:45] <jrib> dougbb: sure
[00:45] <maicod> when opening multiple logins bash keeps track of the commands in multiple .bash_history files it seems because sometimes when logging back in I get a bash history of another login I had used. where is the bash history of these other logins stored ?
[00:45] <zack> so I should stop trying to get alias pwd='$fg_no_bold_[green]pwd' to work?
[00:45] <dougbb> zack: right :)
[00:46] <zack> d'oh
[00:46] <dougbb> what you're doing is the province of a function
[00:46] <warfaren> maicod: by default, the history of last shell you close gets written to ~/ .bash_history
[00:46] <haraken> sheriffbot: rollout 134069 "It is a wrong way to fix the problem. See discussions in bug 96614"
[00:46] <dougbb> zack: as someone else pointed out, aliases are designed for single things, not compound ones
[00:47] <dougbb> warfaren: the last shell you log out of will write it's history out to $HISTFILE
[00:47] <haraken> sorry, ignore the above message. I posted to a wrong channel:)
[00:47] <dougbb> it's not a compound process
[00:47] <warfaren> yeah.
[00:47] <maicod> warfaren: yeah but the others are kept somewhere else since they turn up sometimes when later logging into a new shell
[00:48] <zack> dougbb: I mean.. is a color code a command?  beacuse that's the error I get - it doesn't recognize it as as command. and even if it were shouldn't && handle that?
[00:48] <maicod> so where is that stored :)
[00:48] <dougbb> maicod: echo $HISTFILE
[00:48] <ezi0d> Anybody here has dual boot of windows 8 and ubuntu?
[00:48] <warfaren> i don't think so. they're per user so if you were logged into different users you would get all of them saved
[00:48] <dougbb> zack: as soon as you get && involved, it's not proper for an alias
[00:49] <dougbb> zack: writing functions isn't hard ... stop resisting :)
[00:49] <warfaren> but if you have multiple shells with the same user up at the same time and just kill them one by one only the history of the last one will get written, the rest are lost
[00:49] <zack> dougbb: i'm not resisting. i'm learning. i'm learning why it's wrong or won't work.
[00:49] <maicod> dougbb: thats .bash_history ofc ;)
[00:50] <dougbb> maicod: ok, so check that for each of your shells, it will tell you where they are being stored
[00:50] <maicod> OK
[00:50] <maicod> thanks
[00:51] <Anom01y> http://www.naturalnews.com/037832_superfoods_stockpiling_survival.html
[00:51] <escott> warfaren, that can be fixed with shopt variables
[00:51] <maicod> Anom01y:scared for the end of the world?
[00:51] <dougbb> zack: fair enough .... the bash man page has a very good explanation of aliases, and when/why they are applicable
[00:51] <warfaren> escott: are you talking about my graphics problem?
[00:52] <escott> warfaren, the history being lost issue
[00:52] <warfaren> i see. doh :(
[00:52] <warfaren> i'm really hoping to get fglrx working. can't even watch youtube fluidly with the open source driver :(
[00:53] <Jordan_U> !ot | Anom01y
[00:53] <escott> maicod, if you problem is history being overwritten its easily fixed
[00:58] <dolphin> hello everyone!
[00:58] <jrib> funnily enough, zack's alias actually works :P
[00:59] <escott> jrib, except for being completely unsafe
[00:59] <jrib> escott: why unsafe?
[00:59] <escott> jrib, what happens with: "cp `pwd`/foo /bar"
[01:00] <jrib> escott: gotcha
[01:02] <MonolithImmortal> HEY GUYS, I INSTALLED UBUNTU ON MY COMPUTER, AND FORWHATEVER REASON CAPSLOCK IS STUCK ON
[01:02] <MonolithImmortal> WHAT DO I DO?
[01:02] <FloodBot1> MonolithImmortal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <warfaren> MonolithImmortal: if you're really being serious and you're using a laptop. try connecting an external keyboard and press caps lock on that one. i need to do that sometimes when the laptop's built in key doesn't do anything
[01:04] <escott> MonolithImmortal, thats odd. only way i've ever seen that is to hit capslock and then remap the capslock key with xmodmap.
 Is capslock light on?
[01:05] <zeronewb> hello
[01:05] <warfaren> wonder if he was trolling. using a web client and being able to set a nickname like that with upper and lower case chars.. just saying...
[01:06] <zeronewb> can someone help me pleas? i installed zentyal on ubuntu server and after the installation it came up with ldap configuration...what is ti and how should i configure it?
[01:06] <escott> !ldap | zeronewb
[01:06] <zeronewb> !ldap
[01:07] <escott> zeronewb, ldap can be used for various purposes. from corporate email address books, to synchronizing usernames and passwords across multiple computers. not sure what zentyal is or how it uses ldap
[01:08] <zeronewb> it's web interface to configure the server
[01:09] <zeronewb> it just came up with a configuration screen right after the installation
[01:09] <escott> zeronewb, if you only have one server you aren't using ldap
[01:09] <zeronewb> i have no clue on how to configure it tho
[01:09] <VlanX> i am desperately trying to fix 100 full duplex on my NICs with ethtool, but after a network reset they all come back with autonegotiatio. Could somebody help?
[01:09] <dougbb> VlanX: why aren't you using auto on both sides?
[01:10] <VlanX> dougbb: because it's a server
[01:10] <VlanX> and i need to have fixed 100 fdx
[01:10] <dougbb> what does that have to do with anything?
[01:10] <nicekiwi> escott, no. VLC dosnt need that does it?
[01:10] <dougbb> autoneg has been the recommendation for networking equipment for over 15 years
[01:11] <escott> nicekiwi, what?
[01:11] <zeronewb> it asks me for ldap server address...should i configure it with the ip of my server?
 Why is autonegotiation is bad? Are you using some ancient switch or something?
[01:11] <VlanX> dougbb: that might also be, but in my case i keep having half duplex with autoneg
[01:11] <VlanX> dolphin: no it's a Cisco ME-3400
[01:11] <escott> zeronewb, are you running ldap?
[01:12] <zeronewb> idk i just installed zentyal
[01:12] <zeronewb> i don't think so
[01:12] <dougbb> VlanX: power off the server (or disconnect the network cable), reset the switch, configure the server for autoneg, and then reconnect/power on
[01:12] <escott> zeronewb, if you aren't running ldap i would skip that question
[01:12] <zeronewb> i can't there is just ok and go back....and the step before was chosing a password for root
 Did you try another cable/patchcord  (if it's possible)?
[01:12] <escott> nicekiwi, i have no idea what you are talking about.... are you jumping into a new question or is this from earlier
[01:13] <gaetano> hello! who knows how to test the result of code in geany?
[01:13] <dougbb> VlanX: you get yourself into all kinds of problems if you start mucking about with it manually ... dolphin's idea is a good thing to look at as well
[01:13] <escott> zeronewb, im going to suggest that you shouldnt be installing whatever you are installing. ubuntu has no root password. and a well secured system probably should not have a root password
[01:13] <zeronewb> i think it's actually the setup for ldap...maybe the interface needs it
[01:14] <zeronewb> root password foe ldap
[01:14] <zeronewb> before that i had to configure mysql
[01:14] <cpare> Hello room - Over the last week a patch broke my Gnome3 shell - are others impacted by this?
[01:14] <VlanX> dougbb, dolphin, even if i was that crazy to be willing to force 100/fdx, is there a file i can store that string? I can always restore the previous values...
[01:14] <zeronewb> i think it's the web interface that needs it
[01:15] <escott> VlanX, /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:15] <VlanX> escott: do you happen to know what is the syntax to use?
 I've had a problem like that - realtek netcard - zyxel wifi router gave halfduplex and older stupid switch connected at full-duplex. I've messed with them for some time, then used a factory-made patchcord and voila - full duplex with any hardware. I think it has something to do with modern trend of "green power"
[01:16] <escott> VlanX, i've never messed with stuff at that low a level
[01:16] <dougbb> zeronewb: you realize that the mysql root password is something totally different than the system root password, right?
[01:16] <zeronewb> yes
 Best idea i have right now is to have ethtool command set up in cron
[01:16] <halfduplex> dolphin: you called?
[01:16] <VlanX> dolphin: i do have a realtek card
[01:16] <halfduplex> kidding
[01:17] <VlanX> god realtek sucks so bad
 me too, good old rtl8139c
 :)
[01:19] <gaetano> anyone knows ho to get a browser test on geany?
[01:20] <frigginglorious> hey can anyone help me with an FTP server error?
[01:20] <frigginglorious> i have been searching forums for the past 5 hours
 - whats the error?
[01:20] <escott> frigginglorious, real ftp server of sftp?
[01:21] <frigginglorious> and cant figure out why i cant connect to my server anymore
[01:21] <frigginglorious> sftp works fine
[01:21] <frigginglorious> ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server
[01:21] <cpare> frigginglorious - so you still have a listener running
[01:21] <escott> frigginglorious, ie you are using proftpd or the like...
[01:21] <dougbb> frigginglorious: look in the auth.log on the server side
[01:21] <frigginglorious> pure-ftpd
[01:22] <frigginglorious> but i have tried installing 3 different servers
[01:22] <frigginglorious> vsftpd, proftpd
[01:22] <dougbb> could be a firewall issue as well
[01:22] <escott> frigginglorious, is there a reason you are using ftp instead of sftp
 - Firewall Issue
[01:22] <OpenSorce> frigginglorious, you trying to connect over a lan or the web?
[01:22] <frigginglorious> how would i fix a firewall issue in lubuntu?
[01:23] <cpare> frigginglorious - how about an iptables /f
[01:23] <blackshirt> frigginglorious, exactly,what the error is?
[01:23] <cpare> frigginglorious - the /f will purge them
[01:23] <frigginglorious> honestly ive tried screwing with iptables, but dont know what im doing
[01:23] <cpare> frigginglorious - flush
[01:24] <OpenSorce> frigginglorious, you positive your ports are open on the target machine?
[01:24] <frigginglorious> the error is from when i try to connect with my client. I was never able to get pure-ftpd to log correctly
[01:24] <escott> frigginglorious, another thing you have to deal with in ftp is the control port vs the data port issue
[01:24] <frigginglorious> im SSH'd into the machine right now, so at least some ports have to be open
[01:24] <escott> frigginglorious, it can really confuse NATs
[01:24] <escott> frigginglorious, sftp would be a lot easier to setup and more secure
[01:25] <frigginglorious> yeah, SFTP does work
[01:25] <OpenSorce> frigginglorious, the SSH port is different than the FTP port. I'd recommend sftp and check the router settings
[01:25] <dougbb> frigginglorious: stick with sftp if it works ... encryption is your friend :)
[01:25] <frigginglorious> but FTP is more universal, my wordpress will allow me to do alot more with FTP
[01:26] <ikonia> frigginglorious: wordpress supports sftp just as much as ftp
[01:26] <escott> frigginglorious, you are missing my point. ftp is insecure. the only reason you should even think of doing ftp is if you want anonymous access. you can offer something much the same with ssh in many situations
[01:27] <escott> frigginglorious, you haven't stated your use case, but we can likely accomplish your goals with openssh and the sftp module. it will be easier and more secure. if you just tell us what it is you want to do
[01:27] <suhaib> Does anyone knows where can I find the XChat freenode server ?
[01:28] <suhaib> lnow*
[01:28] <suhaib> know**
[01:28] <cpare> frigginglorious - escott is correct
[01:28] <frigginglorious> well i would like to be able to install wordpress themes from the web GUI
[01:28] <cpare> frigginglorious - ftp sends user/pass in clear text, any packet capture tool will show it
[01:28] <escott> frigginglorious, so why would you need an ftp-server to do that?
[01:29] <cpare> frigginglorious - in fact you may want to just transfer files via SSH with something like winSCP
[01:30] <frigginglorious> isnt SSH and SFTP kind of the same thing?
[01:30] <frigginglorious> they both use port 22, right?
[01:30] <escott> frigginglorious, SFTP uses the SSH protocol, but talks FTP. so the commands are ftp commands instead of a full shell
[01:31] <cpare> Hello room - 2-3 weeks ago a patch broke my Gnome3 shell - have other users been reporting this?
[01:31] <escott> frigginglorious, in any case if you are wanting to upload a theme to wordpress.com you don't need a server. you need a client
[01:31] <crackerjackz> i tried upgrading from what ever version to 11.10 but it only did a partial upgrade and now everything is all crazy my sound doesn't work and i keep getting this message about the laptop battery being critally low even though it's not.. it pops up like every 3 seconds and it covers up all of my windows that i want to be in focus
[01:31] <escott> cpare, check launchpad.net
[01:31] <cpare> thx escott
[01:32] <escott> frigginglorious, and your webbrowser can probably do ftp. or you can get fireftp? plugin for firefox
[01:33] <escott> crackerjackz, have you completed the upgrade?
[01:33] <lloowen1> I have ubuntu running on a USB stick. I want to copy it over to another USB. What command could I use that will make sure I get an exact copy with all hidden files and file permissions? Thanks..
[01:33] <frigginglorious> i was mostly just using notepadd ++ ftp client because i was just doing simple web dev
[01:34] <escott> lloowen1, you would need to copy with "dd" to get a bit for bit copy that would be bootable
[01:34] <crackerjackz> when i open the update manager it says not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade to run as many udates as possible...this can be caused by a previus upgrade which didn't complete.. problems with some installed software, unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu, normal changes of a pre-release version of ubuntu
[01:34] <crackerjackz> escott: it wont let me
[01:34] <escott> lloowen1, that can only be done if stick2 is at least as large as stick1
[01:34] <escott> crackerjackz, on the terminal can you run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;"
[01:34] <dougbb> crackerjackz: the easiest way to solve that problem is to back up your data, and do a clean install
[01:34] <lloowen1> escott: Thanks. I'll check out the 'dd' command
[01:35] <escott> crackerjackz, on the terminal can you run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f upgrade;" (with the f is a bit better)
[01:35] <crackerjackz> dougbb: i don't wanna do that because of the truecrypt and all of that i have things configured a certain way on here it'd end up being more time consuiming i think
[01:35] <douzto> Hi ! My ubuntu freezes at boot, just after the pointer shows up. By switching to another TTy before the pointer appears then switching back to TTy 7 the desktop loads fine. Booting in recovery mode does the trick too. Any clue ? Thanks.
[01:36] <dougbb> crackerjackz: I don't see how TC would have anything to do with it
[01:36] <crackerjackz> dougbb: cause it took me forever to set it up
[01:36] <crackerjackz> and i just did it the other day
[01:36] <crackerjackz> like 100 gb of data
[01:37] <dougbb> crackerjackz: I have way more than that on various TC devices, no sympathy from me :)
[01:37] <DarKMode> douzto check the log files
[01:37] <dougbb> crackerjackz: are you using TC on devices, or using file/folders
[01:37] <retromingent> What is the best way to download music from Ubuntu 12.04 to an Android Galaxy S3?  Nothing I've found on-line works.
[01:37] <crackerjackz> dougbb: i dont have enough space to back all that up
[01:38] <DarKMode> douzto try dmseg
[01:38] <escott> retromingent, you have to install something that speaks that weird PIP protocol or whatever it is
[01:38] <dougbb> crackerjackz: if you don't have enough backup capability for all your data, that's a whole different problem that you need to solve :)
[01:38] <retromingent> It's MTP.  I have that.
[01:39] <dougbb> retromingent: why not just mount the device, and transfer the files?
[01:39] <retromingent> It mounts, but no music player recognizes it.  And neither does Dolphin.
[01:39] <escott> retromingent, $ sudo aptitude install mtpfs; mkdir ~/android/; mount.mtpfs ~/android/; does that work
[01:40] <crackerjackz> dougbb: but i don't need to reinstall my OS either...
[01:40] <retromingent> When it mounts as an MTP FS, Dolphin says, "Could not display" when trying to open the device.
[01:40] <dougbb> crackerjackz: apparently you do :)
[01:40] <escott> for want of a 5 cent circuit the usb gadget was lost... for want of a usb gadget
[01:40] <retromingent> Looking for someone who has done this.
[01:41] <bastidrazor> for want of a nail
[01:41] <crackerjackz> escott: it worked i think
[01:41] <crackerjackz> i'm not getting an error message when i go to the update manager nore
[01:41] <crackerjackz> now*
[01:42] <crackerjackz> upgrading to 12.04...
[01:42] <retromingent> Has anyone successfully downloaded music from Ubuntu 12.04 to Android Galaxy S3 via MTP?
[01:44] <dougbb> retromingent: I didn't see an answer to the question of why not just mount the device as a regular disk?
[01:45] <escott> dougbb, its not a regular disk. its a ptp device you can fuse mount it
[01:45] <escott> dougbb, or mtp rather
[01:45] <douzto> DarKMode, dmesg shows last boot's record, right ?
[01:45] <dougbb> ah
[01:47] <escott> dougbb, its obnoxious. a little additional circuitry and they could enable gadget mode in the kernel and export usb mass storage from an ext3 filesystem
[01:47] <dougbb> escott: right .... I have an LG android phone that lets me mount both the system disk and the sd card
[01:48] <dougbb> escott: do you happen to know if the nexus 7 has the same problem?
[01:48] <escott> dougbb, its one of the main reasons im not upgrading to ICS
[01:48] <dougbb> I'm thinking of buying one
[01:49] <crackerjackz> escott: why don't you want ICS? i've been waiting on them to upgrade to ICS for a year now on the motorola electrify.. i'm still on 2.3.5
[01:50] <escott> crackerjackz, this should go in offtopic. but i dont want to give up usb mass storage mode
[01:50] <crackerjackz> ahhh i see
[01:51] <Linkandzelda> hey, does anyone know if I can use dd to make a Mac OS X usb installer from ubuntu?
[01:56] <Phaba_> how do i know when its possible to get devel libs from an apt-get install command rather than having to DL the source and use the config / make files??
[01:56] <Phaba_> the apt-get is easier
[01:58] <eamon> How do I get a good looking terminal like this? http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1352597160213.png I saved this file as my .bashrc (the guy who has that shell uses the same file) http://pastebin.com/7CudGSG4 but it looks like this - http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1352598645033.png
[02:00] <k1l_> eamon: is this ubuntu related?
[02:00] <lunaphyte> eamon: why are you asking here?
[02:00] <jrib> eamon: right click -> edit profile
[02:00] <drkokandy> that's OSX
[02:00] <lunaphyte> wrong os
[02:01] <metasansana> wrong side of the force
[02:02] <Phaba_> devel libs guys??
[02:02] <escott> Phaba_, there is usually a -dev package that contains headers you can build against
[02:03] <Phaba_> well i just installed the openmpi libs but from source i found it really hard, and theres a simple "apt-get install" command that would have done it all for me
[02:03] <Phaba_> i have a the same problem with openvas
[02:03] <escott> Phaba_, apt-get install openmpi-dev
[02:04] <Phaba_> yes openmpi works fine now, cheers
[02:04] <escott> Phaba_, you dont need to build openmpi. you need to build against openmpi. so you just need the -dev version of the package to have the headers
[02:04] <VlanX> when i type  ifconfig eth0 up, is he reading from /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:07] <Phaba_> escott, what do you mean "against"?? headers just reference the source libs?
[02:07] <eamon> lunaphyte: Because there are other bash users in this channel. Bash is the shell in the "terminal window", you may not ever have seen it before.
[02:08] <lunaphyte> eamon: excuse me?
[02:08] <ghostconn> is there anything more simple but has the same affect as conky
[02:08] <escott> Phaba_, the *.so contains entry points and symbols (you can view them by running "nm /path/to/libraryname.so"  but to compile a program that will link against those libraries you need the header files which contain all the function prototypes and declarations specific to the language you are coding in
 eamon: why are you asking here?
[02:08] <ncfi1013> hi...would anyone mind terribly if i troubled you for some information on what might be the most useful file format converter for .flac to .mp3?
[02:09] <ghostconn> dont convert flac it too good to loose bitrate
[02:09] <lunaphyte> eamon: i know what bash is, i know what a terminal window is, and i know if i wanted help with it, i'd ask in #bash, not here.
[02:09] <escott> Phaba_, you get all that when you build the thing by hand but you dont have to do that with ubuntu. the split the make install part that installs the library and the make install-headers part that installs the prototypes into different packages
[02:09] <eamon> lunaphyte: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_%28Unix_shell%29
[02:09] <lunaphyte> eamon: are you even USING ubuntu?
[02:09] <eamon> Yes.
[02:09] <escott> eamon, yeah but the problem is your terminal application in OSX is lame
[02:09] <lunaphyte> eamon: not in that screenshot you're not
[02:10] <lunaphyte> eamon: i'm not the one asking for help.  stop it.
[02:11] <lunaphyte> eamon: maybe you're not familiar with bash?
[02:11] <lunaphyte> eamon: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[02:12] <OerHeks> ncfi1013, soundconverter, or terminal :  for f in *;do flac -cd $f |lame -b 128 - $f.mp3;done     ( 128 or 190 or 256)
[02:13] <ghostconn> file:///media/Media%20Server/music/Above%20And%20Beyond%20-%20Trance%20Around%20The%20World%20400/33%20Orjan%20Nilsen%20-%20Viking.mp3
[02:15] <ghostconn> can anyone recommend a good piano rool software for my alberton live controller?
[02:15] <ghostconn> its midi
[02:17] <eamon> adobe audition
[02:17] <ikonia> ghostconn: you're going to struggle for professional grade music proction tools in linux
[02:18] <ghostconn> ikonia : do you think flstudio od ableton would run through wine?
[02:21] <zatan> ikonia, do u still here ?
[02:22] <wyclif> ikonia: right. if you want pro music studio stuff it's illogical not to go with Mac (and I say that as a devoted Linux user since 1995)
[02:22] <Phaba_> escott, okay when using the "make" it installs the libs and headers into /usr/lib but what im asking is when do i know or how would i find out that i could just use an "apt-get install" rather than pulling the source code in and making it from scratch, using things like flags and finding non default local libs is a bit of a pain for me :P
[02:24] <VlanX> i have two NICs; when i enable the second NIC how can i prevent to have messed up routes (the 2nd NIC will become the default route to the internet, but it's a private LAN)
[02:25] <psusi> Phaba_, you can use the software center, synaptic, or apt-cache search to search for packages
[02:25] <thanigoi> my hard disk have no space. how to get free space on ununtui file system
[02:26] <dougbb> thanigoi: well, the obvious answer is to delete some files :)
[02:26] <thanigoi> there will be system files
[02:27] <ubuntu__> rtin
[02:27] <dougbb> thanigoi: right, so don't delete anything you don't understand
[02:27] <dougbb> thanigoi: perhaps if you said a little bit more about what you're trying to accomplish?
[02:27] <psusi> the next obvious answer is to get a larger hard drive ;)
[02:28] <k1l_> thanigoi: delete old kernels with the package: "linux-image-..."
[02:28] <Kuryuu> http://askubuntu.com/q/214798/106577 <----- Having some issues with my upgrade would appreciate any feedback, thanks
[02:28] <k1l_> thanigoi: and remove the apt-get caches and old files with apt-get autoremove and autoclean
[02:28] <thanigoi> dougbb, there will be system files
[02:29] <OerHeks> thanigoi, use bleachit to clean you ubuntu filesystem, uninstall programs you never use.
[02:30] <thanigoi> thaks
[02:30] <thanigoi> thanks
[02:32] <definity> Any one here know about /dev and drivers?
[02:33] <Magiobiwan> definity, it depends
[02:33] <ikonia> definity: just ask the question
[02:33] <Easton_> If I have an OEM license key, can I install Ubuntu over Windows 7 then make a virtual machine of 7 on the same computer with the OEM license key?
[02:34] <definity> why does psaux only output the same character to the terminal screen when i look at it
[02:34] <Jordan_U> Easton_: That's more of a question for ##windows.
[02:35] <psusi> definity, what?
[02:36] <definity> when i look at /dev/psaux in the terminal all i see is the same character repeated when i move the mouse. how come the charater is the same one and not diffrent bits of data
[02:36] <psusi> definity, probably because it's binary data so it just comes out as undefined characters
[02:37] <definity> but its just one character not diffrent ones
[02:38] <psusi> definity, it is probably several different ones that all show up as the junk character block
[02:38] <psusi> the point is, you aren't supposed to cat /dev/psaux... you won't get anything sensical
[02:38] <definity> what would be the best way to see the data?
[02:38] <psusi> what is it that you are trying to see?
[02:39] <definity> i want to know how the mouse sends its data to memory
[02:40] <definity> well see the data
[02:41] <psusi> definity, you can use hd to dump it as hex
[02:41] <Wulfe> http://askubuntu.com/q/214798/106577 <----- Having some issues with my upgrade would appreciate any feedback, thanks
[02:42] <definity> cool thanks
[02:46] <Scunizi> fdisk -l reveals 3 separate drives on my system.  1 of the remaining 2 drives could be running my current boot environment.  How do I tell which one?
[02:46] <Random832> mount ?
[02:47] <void> Hey, can anyone help me with a wireless issue I'm having?
[02:48] <Scunizi> Random832: ok.. I see sda1 is ext4 and sda3 is /home .. I can't really identify where /swap is unless it's labeled something different..
[02:48] <Lord_Zero> Is an SSH server runing by default on a fresh install of 12.10?
[02:49] <Scunizi> Lord_Zero: not typically.. sudo apt-get install ssh
[02:49] <dougbb> here's a silly question, is there anything in stock ubuntu 12.10 that is feeding the /dev/random entropy pool?
[02:49] <Lord_Zero> Scunizi:  thank you my good man
[02:49] <Magiobiwan> Unless it's a Server Install
[02:49] <Scunizi> true
[02:49] <Magiobiwan> If sshd wasn't running default
[02:49] <Scunizi> Lord_Zero: is it a server install?
[02:49] <Magiobiwan> You might have a problem
[02:49] <Lord_Zero> A budy is having issues with sound. Im trying to troubleshoot with my limited knowledge of Ubuntu
[02:50] <Scunizi> Lord_Zero: and he's in a gui environment?
[02:50] <Lord_Zero> If I recall isnt there some sound libraries or drivers I need to get that arent out of the box?
[02:50] <Lord_Zero> Yes
[02:50] <Scunizi> Lord_Zero: he might just need to install pavcontrol and then go from there..
[02:51] <Lord_Zero> I see
[02:51] <Scunizi> Lord_Zero: that will give a different control panel for the sound and you can then choose input and output items separately.
[02:51] <Lord_Zero> is that in aptitude?
[02:51] <Lord_Zero> oh okay
[02:51] <Scunizi> Lord_Zero: yes.. also.. if you want to see his screen with out ssh.. use teamviewer.. it's free and runs on everything.
[02:52] <Lord_Zero> Oh very good point
[02:52] <Lord_Zero> ill try that
[02:56] <ghostconn> has anyone installed flstudio with ubuntu using wine
[02:57] <ikonia> ghostconn: something I'd strongly suggest not doing
[02:57] <shing`> Is it possible to create a raid setup with a mirrored boot partition across three drives, and have the remainder of the space be raid 5? (minus swap of course)
[02:57] <shing`> has anyone done anything like that?
[02:57] <ikonia> shing`: no
[02:57] <ikonia> shing`: mirror = 1->1
[02:57] <ikonia> or 1->1->1
[02:59] <dougbb> shing` you're much better off keeping your system on a simple partition, and RAID'ing your data
[02:59] <dougbb> d'oh
[02:59] <ghostconn> ikonia: can you install windows driver with wine
[02:59] <ikonia> ghostconn: not really
[02:59] <ghostconn> ok
[02:59] <ikonia> ghostconn: trying to use a daw or a hardware interface through wine - will fail
[02:59] <ikonia> the abstraction layer takes it away from the real time responses needed
[03:02] <hammersickle> hello is anyone running steam native?
[03:02] <hammersickle> im unable to download team fortress 2
[03:03] <ikonia> hammersickle: this isn't the steam support channel
[03:05] <hammersickle> oh sorry didnt realise just asking on the slight chance of help was such a big problem
[03:08] <Wulfe> heh, steam on linux is in beta anyways so gl geting any real support as of yet unlesss its from the offical group on steam.
[03:09] <Xanthippus> Hi guys
[03:09] <killer> hi....i want pcmanfm (for the sake of speed)to control my desktop instead of nautilus .......is there a way i can do it
[03:10] <Xanthippus> Can someone post an example of shared memory? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StricterDefaults
[03:10] <ikonia> killer: use lubuntu
[03:10] <Xanthippus> I inserted the string in my fstab but I keeping screwing up the boot...
[03:11] <killer> ikonla: i like unity but nautilus turns out to b too slow as compared to pcmanfm
[03:11] <ikonia> killer: you can't have both
[03:11] <Xanthippus> How bout Thunar?
[03:11] <dougbb> Xanthippus: paste the exact line from fstab
[03:11] <ikonia> killer: you can certainly use pcmanfm but have it intergrated into the desktop....not
[03:11] <Xanthippus> The line from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StricterDefaults
[03:12] <dougbb> Xanthippus: no, paste what YOU have
[03:12] <ikonia> Xanthippus: which line
[03:12] <dougbb> in YOUR fstab
[03:12] <Xanthippus> There is no more "my fstab"
[03:12] <Xanthippus> I formatted the HD because it won't booth
[03:13] <Xanthippus> I just need an example of that line incorporated in an example fstab so I know how to do it corrctly
[03:13] <ikonia> Xanthippus: that example in the wiki is valid
[03:14] <dougbb> Xanthippus: it's overwhelmingly likely that you made a tiny-but-important error when you pasted the line
[03:15] <dougbb> you might want to skip that in any case, it's highly doubtful that you'll run into problems with shared memory on a single-user system
[03:17] <kristoffer> what command to see my system info like rams and etc
[03:17] <kristoffer> ?
[03:17] <ikonia> "free" ?
[03:20] <Xanthippus> dougbb: Yeah, that's probably it. That's why need an example, so I know how it's supposed to look after copy/pasted
[03:20] <alusion_> Is there a way I can record .gif's during a movie in ubuntu? someone told me photoshop
[03:20] <ikonia> Xanthippus: the example in that wiki is genuine
[03:20] <ikonia> Xanthippus: it should look exactly like that example
[03:20] <ghostconn> ikonia: i got flstudi 10 working with wine everything works wine ... the only minor problem i have is I usually use asio for faster response from my live midi controller any way around that
[03:20] <Xanthippus> ikonia: I know it's valid, but I already reinstalled twice using that string and it wouldn't booth
[03:21] <dougbb> Xanthippus: what problem are you trying to solve by changing that setting?
[03:21] <Xanthippus> dougbb: Following this guide: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[03:21] <ikonia> ghostconn: I really wish you'd listen "it won't work due to the abstraction layer taking it away from the real time response needed for a daw"
[03:21] <ikonia> ghostconn: what is the point of asking if it works, being told "no" doing it anyway, saying it works, but doesn't
[03:22] <ikonia> ghostconn: it doesn't work, the daw requires real time access to the hardware and sync clock, the abstraction layer of wine won't allow that
[03:22] <dougbb> Xanthippus: ok, if you don't actually know why you might want to change that, I suggest that you don't do it
[03:22] <ikonia> ghostconn: that's why all daws do not allow / support being run in things like vm's
[03:22] <ikonia> Xanthippus: then you are making a mistake, and as dougbb says, why do you want this
[03:22] <ghostconn> ill figure it out anythings possible
[03:23] <Xanthippus> dougbb: I already did it once, but screwed up something else and now it won't work
[03:23] <ikonia> ghostconn: no, it's not
[03:23] <ikonia> ghostconn: there are limitations
[03:23] <Xanthippus> This isnt the first time ive done this
[03:23] <ikonia> ghostconn: daws are a great example because of how fussy they are with the real time clock
[03:24] <dougbb> Xanthippus: what you might find useful is to test out your configuration in a vm (like virtualbox) first, then transfer your working version to the live server
[03:24] <ikonia> I'm sorry, but if you can't copy a line correctly, there is no need to run it in a vm
[03:24] <ikonia> there is a need to correct attention to detail
[03:25] <ikonia> and the ability to debug a problem without formatting
[03:25] <sunshine123> Installed conky on ubuntu 12.10 gnome 3. Followed all instructions but when i start conky this is the output                    /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state: No such file or directory..what do I do?
[03:25] <sunshine123> Indeed there is no such file called BAT1
[03:25] <dougbb> otherwise, I'm going to stick with "If you don't know why you're changing it, don't change it." :)
[03:25] <ghostconn> i can change the rtl with flstudio also remap the bpm without effecting the track
[03:25] <ghostconn> ??
[03:25] <ikonia> ghostconn: no
[03:25] <sunshine123> so how do i prevent conky from going into an infinite loop looking for this file?
[03:25] <dougbb> ikonia: we all had to learn somewhere, and making mistakes is a great way to learn
[03:25] <ikonia> dougbb: I didn't say making a mistake was a problem
[03:25] <JPeterson> can i add sudo required programs to a list that auto runs them through sudo?
[03:25] <dougbb> and vms are a great way to minimize the impact of those mistakes
[03:26] <dougbb> ikonia: yeah, I saw what you said
[03:26] <ikonia> dougbb: if you can't copy and paste correctly, running a vm is out of scope
[03:26] <JPeterson> so i dont need to type the sudo prefix when not a su
[03:26] <ghostconn> yes you can?? on any basic piano rool you can remap the bpm and midi functions lol have you ever used this software
[03:26] <Xanthippus> I don't get it though, it worked beforehand
[03:26] <ikonia> ghostconn: it will fail as it still needs access to the clock to keep time internally
[03:26] <Xanthippus> Does there need to be a space between separate lines?
[03:26] <dougbb> ikonia: there is no need to be negative ... I'd rather focus on trying to help the person learn something
[03:27] <Xanthippus> Like, start at the end of a line, press enter twice, then paste it?
[03:27] <ikonia> dougbb: I'm not being negative, I'm being real, if you can't copy and paste a line, then running a vm is out of scope
[03:27] <Xanthippus> Or enter once?
[03:27] <ikonia> Xanthippus: genuine question, why are you trying to set shared memory ?
[03:27] <dougbb> Xanthippus: ... you're pushing me over into ikonia's camp :)
[03:27] <ghostconn> well what's your email because ill bet you 50$ that by the end of the week ill have a track made without you're help
[03:27] <ghostconn> lol
[03:27] <ekaj> $50
[03:28] <sunshine123> It still is looking for the missing variable and it has been running for over 10 minutes...:'(
[03:28] <Xanthippus> ikonia: Trying to do this: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[03:28] <ikonia> Xanthippus: why ?
[03:28] <ikonia> Xanthippus: what do you hope to achieve setting shared memory ?
[03:29] <Xanthippus> Preventing attacks to httpd among ohers I guess
[03:29] <ikonia> Xanthippus: why will that prevent and attack ?
[03:30] <Xanthippus> Lmmex
[03:30] <Xanthippus> Lemme look for the articles
[03:30] <ikonia> Xanthippus: you're doing something just reading an article blind
[03:30] <ikonia> Xanthippus: just leave it alone unless you have a genuine reason to change it
[03:31] <ikonia> or you understand it enough to make a decision
[03:31] <Xanthippus> Oh it's in the guide itself
[03:31] <ikonia> yes but you don't know why you're doing it
[03:31] <ikonia> you're just typing things blindly because a guide tells you to
[03:31] <Xanthippus> :-/
[03:32] <Xanthippus> My main goal is to make my server secure, is that too much to ask?
[03:32] <ikonia> yes, if you are just typing things blind
[03:33] <dougbb> Xanthippus: the problem is that since you don't know the ramifications of what you're doing, you don't have a context for judging whether you are making it more secure, or less secure
[03:33] <dougbb> you should also look at the bit on one of the pages that you posted where it says that the Ubuntu security team disagrees with some of those recommendations
[03:34] <Xanthippus> Sounds like doing that makes it less secure then
[03:34] <kristoffer> what command to see my system info like rams and etc
[03:34] <kristoffer> ????
[03:34] <Xanthippus> (Shared memory)
[03:34] <dougbb> linux attracts people who like to fiddle with stuff (myself included). but knowing when to stop fiddling and let the system do its job is also an important skill if you want to get real work done
[03:34] <crimsonmane> kristoffer: "top"
[03:34] <ikonia> kristoffer: "free" as I told you earlier
[03:35] <Magiobiwan> kristoffer, there's also "free -m" to see Free RAM and Swap
[03:35] <Magiobiwan> In megabytes
[03:35] <Magiobiwan> There's "df -h"
[03:35] <Magiobiwan> TO see disk space
[03:36] <Xanthippus> Okay, so since secured memory sounds like a bad idea to you guys, what _can_ I do to make it more secure?
[03:36] <ikonia> Xanthippus: did you not listen to what's being said ?
[03:36] <nickymabolin> Hey guys. Does anyone know if the ubuntu devs are considering putting LUK in ubuntu by default? Or if they are at least making it an optional install?
[03:36] <furian> i have a second hard drive installed in my system /dev/sdb mounted as /media/storage, how would i make that rw for all users?
[03:36] <ikonia> Xanthippus: you have to understand/have experience
[03:36] <ikonia> Xanthippus: there is no "do this and it's secure"
[03:37] <Xanthippus> I know that's
[03:37] <escott> furian, what filesystem is it?
[03:37] <dougbb> Xanthippus: best way to increase security is to not run services you don't need .... other than that, it's experience, like ikonia said
[03:37] <furian> ext4
[03:37] <Xanthippus> I just want it to be secure from basic hacking techniques
[03:37] <ikonia> Xanthippus: you're not listening
[03:37] <furian> do you need to see the fstab line?
[03:37] <escott> furian, then you just chmod o+rw /media/storage
[03:37] <Xanthippus> Such as brute forcing passwords etch
[03:37] <Xanthippus> etc*
[03:37] <ikonia> Xanthippus: you're just reading things off the internet
[03:38] <escott> furian, that may not be desirable though as it allows user X to delete a folder created by user Y
[03:38] <Xanthippus> ikonia: Trying to get what "experience" I can
[03:38] <nickymabolin> Hey guys. Does anyone know if the ubuntu devs are considering putting LUK in ubuntu by default? Or if they are at least making it an optional install?
[03:38] <ikonia> Xanthippus: right, so there you go, try things, learn what's good/bad and why
[03:38] <furian> its for a general storage and backup drive, i am the only user
[03:38] <dougbb> Xanthippus: what passwords are you worried about people brute-forcing?
[03:38] <furian> escott, ^
[03:38] <Xanthippus> Mainly ssh
[03:38] <ikonia> Xanthippus: get hacked, learn how they got in, what the damage was
[03:38] <ikonia> Xanthippus: it's all just experience
[03:39] <nickymabolin> Xanthippus: make the passwords long (20 characters) and complicated (not just letter/number) and you will be fine from bruteforce
[03:39] <Xanthippus> There were a couple of attempts already isoniazid
[03:39] <escott> furian, in that case it might just be easier to chown it to yourself with chown username:username /media/storage
[03:39] <dougbb> Xanthippus: ok, the recommendation to only allow ssh authentication using ssh keys on one of those pages was a good one
[03:39] <ikonia> Xanthippus: how ?
[03:39] <chalcedony> my husband upgraded his ubuntu from 10.10 to 10.12, now his yahoo mail attachments that he sends me, won't open. is that Ubuntu or Firefox or what?
[03:39] <Xanthippus> nickymabolin: I was thinking RSA keys, which I did
[03:39] <ikonia> Xanthippus: what where these attemps (please don't say ssh brute force)
[03:39] <nickymabolin> Xanthippus: pm'd you
[03:39] <furian> thank you
[03:40] <furian> that did the trick
[03:40] <escott> chalcedony, won't open... meaning what? what kind of attachments?
[03:40] <Xanthippus> That was it, ikonia
[03:40] <ikonia> Xanthippus: come on.....
[03:40] <Xanthippus> Let me guess, I get kicked  -_-
[03:40] <dougbb> nickymabolin: you have to assume hackers have an infinite amount of time and resources, so thinking that anything is safe from brute force attack is a bad idea
[03:40] <ikonia> Xanthippus: everyone gets those
[03:40] <furian> xubuntu 12.1 is rather snappy on this old machine
[03:40] <ikonia> Xanthippus: they are just dumb bots cycling through known passwords/usernames
[03:40] <escott> dougbb, if you assume that there isn't any point in securing anything
[03:40] <ikonia> Xanthippus: think about it logcially - how can you defend against them
[03:41] <nickymabolin> dougbb: do the math though....it doesn't matter how much time they have because when you itnroduce enough variables it could accelerate the amount of time it would take for them to crack the pw to beyond the age of the universe
[03:41] <dougbb> escott: sure there is ... the goal is to make your system harder to crack than average, so that they spend time elsewhere :)
[03:42] <dougbb> nickymabolin: A) that thinking isn't accurate, for reasons outside the scope of this channel, and B) what if they get lucky?
[03:42] <escott> dougbb, which contradicts your assumption. if they have infinite resources they attack all computers at the same time
[03:42] <nickymabolin> dougbb: the point of security is not to make something absolutely unhackable. Everything is hackable on some level. The point of security is to make so many barriers that attempting to break past them is kinda pointless...like my password idea
[03:42] <dougbb> With something like ssh, requiring authentication using keys is the answer
[03:42] <Xanthippus> ikonia: RSA keys...
[03:42] <yokobr> hey guys, how do i know if my ati drivers are installed correctely?
[03:42] <nickymabolin> dougbb: How is that not accurate? IF they get lucky then you obviously didn't choose a good password
[03:42] <ikonia> Xanthippus: ok good, that's one idea
[03:43] <escott> yokobr, what is the output of "glxinfo | grep -i renderer"
[03:43] <dougbb> nickymabolin: but requiring ssh keys is better/safer than your password idea, and comes at no cost :)
[03:43] <nickymabolin> dougbb: I never said it wasnt better. I was just giving advice lol
[03:43] <nickymabolin> dougbb: I didn't know it was ssh
[03:43] <dougbb> escott: you can choose to go reductio ad absurdum if you want, that doesn't make my point any less valid
[03:44] <Xanthippus> ikonia: How bout fail2ban
[03:44] <yokobr> escott, X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[03:44] <ikonia> Xanthippus: another good idea,
[03:44] <escott> yokobr, then its not installed correctly
[03:44] <ikonia> Xanthippus: this is what I mean about looking at the problem, working out the risk and minimising it
[03:44] <ikonia> rather than just typing things blind
[03:44] <yokobr> how do i do that? i've followed the guide, installed fglrx
[03:45] <dougbb> nickymabolin: in any case, your advice about passwords is old thinking ... https://xkcd.com/936/
[03:45] <Xanthippus> Well I had fail2ban before, again, not the first time
[03:45] <ikonia> Xanthippus: got to be careful though as set it up wrong and it will open a bigger hole
[03:45] <nickymabolin> dougbb: oh shi-
[03:45] <ikonia> Xanthippus: so again, understand the problem, understand how to minimise it, then understand the implementation of the solution
[03:46] <Xanthippus> How so, ikonia
[03:46] <escott> dougbb, the style of the statement is in the style of the statements that are common in the cryptography community. but its a ridiculous thing to say in that community (assume the attacker can perform X flops, or that the attacker can factor primes in X time etc). you clearly mean it in some other sense... not sure what sense that is or what you want it to mean.
[03:46] <ikonia> Xanthippus: how so what ?
[03:46] <Xanthippus> I just setup a jail for ssh
[03:46] <Xanthippus> ikonia: How would it make a hole?
[03:46] <escott> yokobr, what guide did you follow?
[03:46] <ikonia> Xanthippus: think about it, if you are under attack, that's a lot of connections, if you set the retention policy wrong, it will make a list of rules that is longer than your machine can handle.,
[03:47] <ikonia> Xanthippus: it will dos your own service by making the firewall too big for your syste m
[03:47] <dougbb> nickymabolin: yeah ... there are some other, more scientific papers that discuss that theory, but I think the comic makes the point very effectively :)
[03:47] <ikonia> Xanthippus: or the load of adding/removing rules if you set it too short,
[03:47] <Xanthippus> And how to un-dos?
[03:47] <chalcedony> escott, we both have Yahoo mail, he mails the laptop (my account) in order to print from open office .doc(s), but my Yahoo mail can't open them, it just sits here trying and apparently times out, i don't know how to see an error in Yahoo mail.
[03:47] <nickymabolin> dougbb: indeed it does.
[03:47] <mengazo> Does a Linux equivalent of Adobe Lightroom exist, by any chance? I am seeking to migrate from the Windows platform and am looking for an application with similar functionality. Nothing like Photoshop/GIMP, an application focused on photo manipulation for photographers.
[03:47] <almoxarife> a linux testosterone fest?
[03:47] <ikonia> "un dos" come on
[03:47] <Xanthippus> Doesn't fail2ban ban IPs if they connect too much?
[03:47] <ikonia> Xanthippus: if you don't understnad what you're doing - you shouldn't be doing it
[03:47] <ikonia> Xanthippus: correct,
[03:48] <ikonia> Xanthippus: how does it ban them
[03:48] <yokobr> from ubuntu docs
[03:48] <Xanthippus> Adds them to a config file...?
[03:48] <yokobr> escott
[03:48] <ikonia> Xanthippus: no, it adds a firewall (iptables) rule
[03:48] <ikonia> Xanthippus: and where is that iptables rule kept ?
[03:48] <escott> chalcedony, so you click on the attachment in yahoo and say "download" and what happens
[03:49] <almoxarife> !iptables
[03:49] <dougbb> mengazo: not TMK, although I'd be interested if there were :)
[03:49] <escott> yokobr, can you actually send me the link of what you followed
[03:49] <Xanthippus> In /etc/iptables or where iptables config is kept...?
[03:49] <ikonia> Xanthippus: no, in ram
[03:49] <Xanthippus> :face palm:
[03:49] <ikonia> Xanthippus: the iptables rules are kept in ram
[03:49] <ikonia> Xanthippus: so think about it, if you don't have a regular flush pattern and you keep adding more rules
[03:49] <dougbb> mengazo: ristretto has some nice features, as well as geeqie, but nothing with the kind of features that lightroom does
[03:49] <designbybeck> I think I might be needing to replace my Dell Mini 10 Netbook soon. What might be a more powerful yet portable smaller laptop for the job to run Ubuntu on?
[03:50] <chalcedony> escott the twirly circle thing shows for a while and vanishes. the attachment doesn't open.
[03:50] <escott> !hcl | designbybeck
[03:50] <Xanthippus> designbybeck: I have ASUS Eee PC 1000HE, it's pretty good
[03:50] <ikonia> Xanthippus: 1.) the list will become big and eat your ram 2.) every packet that comes in needs to be checked against that massive list, making it eat resources c.) every packet needs to be checked, slowing down your interface d.) your firewall can crash blocking everything
[03:50] <escott> chalcedony, sounds like a problem with your browser/yahoo
[03:50] <ikonia> Xanthippus: see what I mean about not understanding can create a bigger hole ?
[03:51] <ikonia> that's just one easy example
[03:51] <mengazo> dougbb: Hmmm, perhaps I could virtualize Windows and use Lightroom, in the meantime. A lack of software support is one issue I have with Linux, unfortunately
[03:51] <designbybeck> Thank you Xanthippus, I wonder if my bro in law still has his i can steal away!
[03:51] <Xanthippus> lol
[03:51] <chalcedony> escott, i didn't change anything on my side.
[03:52] <escott> mengazo, people who like adobe are often unhappy with any alternatives that get suggested
[03:52] <chalcedony> escott, its something that happened with him changing ubuntu or new firefox
[03:52] <mengazo> escott: You honestly can't blame them lol
[03:53] <ikonia> Xanthippus: see the point I'm trying to hilight to you ?
[03:53] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Okay.
[03:53] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I'm gonna need me some help with my Android Tablet.
[03:53] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It's a Pandigital.
[03:53] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It only takes one finger on the touch screen at a time
[03:53] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Like when I try to play a game it won't let me press a and b at the same time
[03:53] <Xanthippus> ikonia: What's a more extreme example?
[03:53] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help?
[03:53] <ikonia> Hishamoto_Masuki: how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[03:53] <upgrayeddd> hi, is there a way to copy a less buffer to system clipboard?
[03:54] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I just need help :/
[03:54] <Xanthippus> And can these flush patterns be scheduled?
[03:54] <ikonia> Xanthippus: there are many, but if you don't consider dos'ing yourself extreme....
[03:54] <upgrayeddd> less, as in the unix/gnu utility
[03:54] <Hishamoto_Masuki> ikonia: Would you know how?
[03:54] <ikonia> Hishamoto_Masuki: we only support ubuntu here, sorry
[03:54] <escott> mengazo, to some extent you can. they get used to doing it one particular way, and then throw a fit when a single tool works differently. sure you may be used to it and it may be efficient for you but why are you trying something different then?
[03:54] <Hishamoto_Masuki> mmk.
[03:54] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Then I do need help with Ubunut
[03:54] <Hishamoto_Masuki> *Ubuntu
[03:54] <ikonia> Hishamoto_Masuki: in what way ?
[03:54] <upgrayeddd> or is there an easier way to copy a file's contents to the system clipboard?
[03:54] <escott> upgrayeddd, you can dump the buffer to a file
[03:54] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I'm upgrading to 12.04 as we speak
[03:54] <KvenMitebool> :)
[03:54] <upgrayeddd> escott: that's what I've done
[03:54] <Hishamoto_Masuki> From Xubuntu 10.04
[03:54] <escott> !info xclipboard | upgrayeddd
[03:54] <upgrayeddd> but I need to copy the file escott
[03:54] <upgrayeddd> escott: no X, on server
[03:54] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Is it going to switch operating systems? Will it delete my files?
[03:55] <ikonia> Hishamoto_Masuki: which files ?
[03:55] <Hishamoto_Masuki> My desktop files, my music, etc
[03:55] <escott> upgrayeddd, then what clipboard are you talking about?
[03:55] <ikonia> Hishamoto_Masuki: shouldn't do
[03:55] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I backed it up just in case, but will it?
[03:55] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Good.
[03:55] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Also
[03:55] <upgrayeddd> escott: system one on the server
[03:55] <blackshirt> hishamoto_masuki, what the problem was ?
[03:55] <escott> upgrayeddd, trick question then. there is no clipboard
[03:55] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I needed help with my Android Tablet :/
[03:55] <upgrayeddd> escott: for example, I have a shortcut of copying tmux buffer to clipboard from system on server
[03:55] <ikonia> Hishamoto_Masuki: I'll tell you one more time - we don't support that here
[03:56] <upgrayeddd> escott: there is...
[03:56] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Blackshirt asked me something, Ikonia
[03:56] <escott> upgrayeddd, tmux may have some kind of buffer but bash doesn't
[03:56] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I wasn't talking to anyone in particular, he asked what was my first problem
[03:56] <upgrayeddd> escott: I am using zsh, does this make a difference?
[03:56] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Except him
[03:56] <ikonia> ok
[03:56] <mengazo> escott: You do bring up a good point. In that particular case, I would have to assume that most wouldn't want to add in the extra time to adjust to a different application, when they already use another one that already works perfectly for them
[03:56] <escott> upgrayeddd, possibly
[03:57] <escott> chalcedony, not sure what to tell you, and we would need more details about exactly how your husband is attaching his files
[03:57] <chalcedony> escott, he clicks on attach in firefox
[03:57] <chalcedony> er Yahoo mail in fireofx
[03:57] <escott> mengazo, which is reasonable... but if thats ones feeling then why ask for an alternative...
[03:58] <mengazo> escott: My whole reason for even considering migrating to another computing platform solely has to do with my concerns over the future of the Windows platform and my dissatisfaction of Windows 8/RT
[03:58] <escott> chalcedony, firefox works. if there is a problem then its with yahoo. it could be yahoo interacting with his firefox or your browser... but its on the yahoo side
[03:58] <chalcedony> mengazo, you're wise
[03:58] <mengazo> escott: So I'm seeking alternatives, including Ubuntu
[03:59] <escott> chalcedony, you could look at the email source and see if the attachment body is missing. perhaps yahoo is failing to attach the file he uploads to the email so there is a reference to the attachment but no contents.
[03:59] <Xanthippus> ikonia: Just one more thing before I probably nuke myself with shared memory again: back to what you said, where would I get the experience you described?
[03:59] <ikonia> Xanthippus: time
[04:00] <ikonia> Xanthippus: research, time, experience
[04:00] <Xanthippus> Which I am currently trying to do
[04:00] <ikonia> Xanthippus: with respect you don't seem to be, you seem to be just typing things blind
[04:00] <Xanthippus> Research = http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[04:00] <Xanthippus> I didnt just do that one
[04:00] <Xanthippus> btw
[04:00] <escott> mengazo, if you want those particular programs the best thing you can do is write to adobe/macneil/maya whatever and say "i really want to switch platforms and ditch windows, and would like to buy your product on that platform"
[04:00] <ikonia> Xanthippus: no, that's typing that guide blind
[04:00] <ikonia> Xanthippus: just doing guides isn't research or experience
[04:00] <ikonia> typing blind is very bad
[04:01] <Xanthippus> :-/
[04:01] <Xanthippus> The guide isn't at least a good start?
[04:01] <ikonia> no
[04:01] <ikonia> as you are just typing things blind and possibly doing more damage than good
[04:01] <escott> chalcedony, the only other thing i can think of would be is if the files he creates with libreoffice are subtly different and cannot be opened by your version of word, but in that case the file would download first
[04:01] <Xanthippus> Okay, then point me to a "good start"
[04:02] <ikonia> Xanthippus: do what I told you
[04:02] <ikonia> and do it over a long time so you gain experience
[04:02] <Xanthippus> You said research, but I have no idea where I am supposed to start
[04:02] <dougbb> mengazo: in some cases the software you want will only be available on 1 platform, and in some cases  there are suitable alternatives in linux that just require a bit of re-learning
[04:03] <ikonia> Xanthippus: books, the web, university papers
[04:03] <escott> upgrayeddd, http://superuser.com/questions/421463/why-does-ctrl-v-notpaste-in-bash-linux-shell
[04:03] <dougbb> mengazo: if what you want though is good software + !windows, think seriously about a mac
[04:03] <Xanthippus> Okay then, thanks for the_real_crimper  advice
[04:03] <mengazo> dougbb: That's what I was thinking, as well, honestly. Sadly, I honestly feel as though Linux has a long way to go before it can enter the mainstream. Relying on a terminal to tweak any segment of a distro is simply inadequate for today's computing standards, in 2012
[04:03] <Xanthippus> The advice*
[04:04] <Xanthippus> iPad inserted name
[04:04] <Guest18221> oh so help me
[04:04] <escott> upgrayeddd, so getting back to your question. bash has "kill ring" but its not a clipboard in any meaningful sense. if you open vim and vim takes over the tty session. you probably can't paste from the bash kill ring
[04:04] <dougbb> mengazo: as a geek I tend to disagree with you on that, but I understand your perspective as it applys to a more general audience :)
[04:05] <Guest18221> and no I do not want to take a semester long class in xubuntu
[04:05] <Guest18221> linx unix etc.
[04:05] <dougbb> mengazo: but when it comes to debugging, or lesser-used features, even windows sometimes tells you to open up a terminal :)
[04:05] <perlhelp> I'm currently trying to get the script to work... It's supposed to extract the link to the mp3s on the page, but a pipe is breaking somewhere, and I'm not sure if my regex is correct... http://pastebin.com/TKgp9Gfq Any thoughts?
[04:05] <escott> upgrayeddd, i live in X so i've never tried this in an actual tty... but its not a built in feature
[04:05] <mengazo> dougbb: I'm certainly a geek myself, as well, but at times, you just want to keep life simple lol
[04:05] <Guest18221> I am told to make a command
[04:05] <Guest18221> in the command prompt
[04:06] <dougbb> mengazo: that's why I have switched to ubuntu :)
[04:06] <mengazo> Windows has a balance of that
[04:06] <Guest18221> on the dash shit how many steps do I need to know
[04:06] <escott> !language | Guest18221
[04:06] <ikonia> Guest18221: that language is unacceptable, please stop
[04:06] <Guest18221> and the xubuntu friendly thing to add a program is a joke
[04:06] <ikonia> Guest18221: what is your question
[04:06] <Guest18221> and I can't take the tutorial because flash won't load and
[04:07] <Guest18221> it wouldn't matter cause I can't turn on any sound.
[04:07] <ikonia> Guest18221: what is your question
[04:07] <mengazo> dougbb: Ubuntu has come a long way since I started using it in 2007, I'll certainly give it credit for that
[04:07] <TriiKs> Hello
[04:07] <perlhelp> Help with this? http://pastebin.com/TKgp9Gfq
[04:07] <perlhelp> Perhaps?
[04:08] <ikonia> perlhelp: try #bash
[04:08] <escott> perlhelp, is there  a question in any of this?
[04:08] <perlhelp> Just give me a moment...
[04:09] <mengazo> dougbb: It's just that when you've grown up using a certain platform, it's hard to jump ship. I have such an emotional attachment to Windows. That's why it's even been hard to even purchase tablets with Android or iOS. It's not the same
[04:09] <dougbb> mengazo: actually you reminded me of a question I have ... I recently switched to compiz under xubuntu, and on firefox my window decorations keep disappearing. Does anyone have a suggestion for that? The solutions I was able to find with searching were not effective.
[04:09] <ioexception> Guest18221: could it be that flash is not installed?
[04:09] <dougbb> mengazo: yes, but on the bright side, by learning new systems you improve your brain :)
[04:09] <escott> Guest18221, rather than list a bunch of complaints you might pick one thing you want to fix. do a little experimentation, and then come to us with a better defined question
[04:10] <Guest18221> thank you for being the self appointed "us"
[04:10] <mengazo> dougbb: If you're working in IT, that's always a plus!
[04:10] <upgrayeddd> escott: ok thanks, I just used sftp to move file over and view+copy/paste that way locally with X
[04:11] <ikonia> Guest18221: do you have a question about ubuntu, yes/no ?
[04:11] <Guest18221> I would like to install flash to begin with.
[04:11] <ikonia> !flash | Guest18221
[04:11] <yokobr> please, could someone help me installing ati drivers?
[04:12] <amayer> is this where i ask questions about the website? or is there another channel for that?
[04:12] <ikonia> amayer: about what website ?
[04:13] <amayer> ..the ubuntu website
[04:13] <Guest18221> yeah and I have both uninstalled and reinstalled flash and yet firefox continues to let me know that I need to install flash.
[04:13] <Jordan_U> yokobr: Before we can help we need you to answer the questions we ask. Could you please link to the exact guide you followed?
[04:13] <ikonia> amayer: you can try here, or you may get directred to #ubuntu-website
[04:13] <ikonia> Guest18221: how did you install it ?
[04:13] <TommehM> Google Chrome keeps killing itself when trying to play youtube in ubuntu 10.04
[04:13] <amayer> ikonia: thanks
[04:13] <Guest18221> I used the ubuntu software library.
[04:14] <er_prashant> Is anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??
[04:14] <er_prashant> Is anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??
[04:14] <er_prashant> Is anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??
[04:14] <FloodBot1> er_prashant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:14] <yokobr> Jordan_U, sorry, this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[04:14] <ikonia> Guest18221: can you show me the name of the package you installed please.
[04:14] <ikonia> whois er_prashant
[04:14] <ioexception> :-)
[04:14] <er_prashant> Is anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??
[04:14] <er_prashant> hi ikonia
[04:14] <Guest18221> I am not sure how to show you the name other than flash.
[04:15] <ikonia> Guest18221: please do "dpkg -l | grep -i flash"
[04:15] <dougbb> mengazo: the other thing that using multiple platforms does for you is that it helps you see problems to be solved in a more general way, and helps you avoid thinking in terms of "how do I run _this_ program"
[04:15] <ikonia> Guest18221: show me the output in a pastebin please.
[04:15] <Guest18221> I am in the most currentxubuntu and whatever the flash that is show there.
[04:15] <ioexception> Guest18221: Get flash from adobe.com and follow instructions
[04:15] <dougbb> and for an IT person, it also helps promote your job security :)
[04:15] <Jordan_U> yokobr: Earlier you said that you "followed the guide, installed fglrx" but the guide you linked to is for the "Radeon" driver, not for fglrx.
[04:15] <Guest18221> I did try to get it from flash itself I chose deb
[04:16] <Guest18221> the aechive mge. downloads
[04:16] <perlhelp> The last perl regex match is failing in the following script, plus I'm not sure whether or not I'm going about it the write way. I'm trying to extract links from the pages and display them. http://pastebin.com/TKgp9Gfq
[04:16] <Guest18221> then I see a series of files.
[04:16] <ikonia> Guest18221: please do "dpkg -l | grep -i flash"
[04:16] <ikonia> Guest18221: show me the output in a pastebin please.
[04:16] <mengazo> dougbb: Amen to that. I couldn't agree more lol
[04:16] <er_prashant> Is anybody can help me with a problem of starting the instance on openstack??
[04:16] <yokobr> ah, sorry, i just picked the purple link from google.. well, i just done a sudo apt-get install fglrx, but it didn't worked.. so i tryed to install the binary driver from ati website
[04:17] <yokobr> Jordan_U cd /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.97.100.3/build; sh make.sh --nohints --uname_r=3.5.0-18-generic --norootcheck......(bad exit status: 1) [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-8.97.100.3 with DKMS [Error] Kernel Module : Removing fglrx-8.97.100.3 from DKMS
[04:17] <Guest18221> how do I do that line you showed me?
[04:17] <ikonia> Guest18221: open a termina, and type it
[04:17] <ikonia> Guest18221: then put the output into pastebin.ubuntu.com in a web browser
[04:17] <TommehM> Google Chrome keeps killing itself when trying to play youtube in ubuntu 10.04
[04:18] <Guest18221> how do I open a terminal
[04:18] <Jordan_U> er_prashant: Try explaining the actual problem you're having, with complete error messages if any. If you don't get any response here after a few minutes try #openstack.
[04:18] <mengazo> dougbb: Playing around with multiple platforms is beneficial in many ways. I simply see it as expanding technical knowledge and, as you've mentioned, securing your job position lol
[04:18] <ikonia> Guest18221: alt+f2 and type "terminal"
[04:18] <escott> ikonia, Guest18221 is running xubuntu. he needs to find it in the menu
[04:18] <escott> ikonia, right?
[04:18] <ikonia> escott: oh, xubuntu, sure
[04:19] <kristoffer> how can i majk my computer play a dubstep sound when my computer is turned on
[04:19] <Jordan_U> yokobr: What link did you get that from? Why aren't you using the "Additional Drivers" tool to install fglrx?
[04:20] <Jordan_U> kristoffer: At the login screen, or after login?
[04:20] <yokobr> Jordan_U, couldn't find it on xubuntu
[04:21] <kristoffer> Jordan_U no at startup when starting computer so it less boring
[04:21] <dougbb> yokobr: go to the software center and then search for/install jockey
[04:21] <escott> yokobr, are you running 12.10 or something older?
[04:21] <kristoffer> Jordan_U i want it to play eatch different song from my musics folders every time
[04:21] <dougbb> it will drag some kde stuff in though, FYI
[04:21] <er_prashant> I have installed openstack on Ubuntu 12.04 server. but when i try to launch a instance, it launches the instance with task as error and state as scheduled, any idea's anyone to resolve this??
[04:21] <Jordan_U> yokobr: If I remember correctly, it's in System>Administration. If I'm remembering that wrong you can always also run "jockey-gtk" from a terminal (*without* sudo).
[04:21] <yokobr> dougbb already done that, but it won't start or give any error
[04:21] <Guest18221> it looks like a straight line in that prompt and I can't find that on my keyboard
[04:21] <yokobr> escott, 12.10
[04:22] <escott> yokobr, jockey was removed in 12.10 its not part of software sources
[04:22] <escott> now
[04:22] <Jordan_U> !pm | er_prashant
[04:22] <ikonia> Guest18221: cut and paste it from this
[04:22] <ikonia> dpkg -l | grep -i flash
[04:22] <er_prashant> ok sorry Jordan
[04:22] <er_prashant> I have installed openstack on Ubuntu 12.04 server. but when i try to launch a instance, it launches the instance with task as error and state as scheduled
[04:22] <yokobr> escott, so how do i install it now?
[04:22] <er_prashant> so can anyone help please??
[04:22] <escott> yokobr, so start "software sources" and the last tab is "additional drivers"
[04:22] <ikonia> er_prashant: asking every 30 seconds won't help it just gets annoying
[04:22] <ikonia> er_prashant: leave it a while between asking
[04:22] <dougbb> yokobr: Jordan_U had a good point, you want jockey-gtk :)
[04:23] <escott> dougbb, jockey is not present in yokobr's release. it was removed in 12.10 and up
[04:23] <dougbb> escott: I have 12.10 :)
[04:23] <yokobr> dougbb, i don't have it, it's 12.10... and it's xubuntu, i can't find software sources too
[04:23] <dougbb> although it's not impossible that I added the repo that includes it to the stock install
[04:24] <escott> dougbb, but its not part of the standard install. i think you get it if you had it earlier, but they are moving away from it
[04:24] <TommehM> Google Chrome keeps killing itself when trying to play youtube in ubuntu 10.04
[04:24] <dougbb> escott: well this was a clean install
[04:24] <Tux_1> Has anyone here used e4defrag ?
[04:24] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Tux_1
[04:24] <yokobr> oh found it!
[04:24] <ioexception> TommehM: so maybe there's a Google Chrome bug?
[04:25] <Guest18221> how do i directly copy something from an xchat line?
[04:25] <ikonia> Guest18221: highlight it, got to "copy" from the edit menu
[04:25] <ioexception> time to unignore Guest18221 :-)
[04:25] <er_prashant> I have installed openstack on Ubuntu 12.04 server. but when i try to launch a instance, it launches the instance with task as error and state as scheduled
[04:25] <ikonia> Guest33953: then middle mouse button into the terminal
[04:25] <ikonia> ioexception: don't need a commentary of who you ignore/not
[04:26] <dougbb> er_prashant: chances are that no one here knows the answer
[04:26] <dougbb> try #openstack
[04:26] <escott> dougbb, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/i386/jockey-gtk
[04:26] <dougbb> escott: I already have it, but thanks :)
[04:26] <mengazo> dougbb: One other application that has prevented me from fully switching operating systems, as well: Foobar2000; only on Windows, sadly :/
[04:27] <TommehM> ioexception, Maybe.
[04:27] <mengazo> I've been waiting patiently for a Mac and Linux equivalent :(
[04:28] <Tux_1> ubottu: If e4defrag ;then ; how does it work for you ; fi
[04:28] <escott> dougbb, i'm saying look at that link. also run "dpkg -L jockey-gtk" you will see no binary in the output. there is no jockey-gtk for a 12.10 user to run
[04:28] <Jordan_U> Tux_1: e4defrag does exactly what it's supposed to.
[04:31] <dougbb> escott: got it :)
[04:32] <Tux_1> Jordan_U: Thanks for the reply, e4defrag did not destroy your data ?
[04:32] <escott> dougbb, canonical does a terrible job of announcing these kinds of changes... it kinda drives me crazy
[04:32] <amayer> when i go here: (i click the download link on the homepage and click "download 12.10 32 bit" on the download page)
[04:32] <amayer> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[04:32] <amayer> and click the link that says "Not now, take me to the download"
[04:33] <amayer> it points me here:
[04:33] <FloodBot1> amayer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:33] <amayer> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[04:33] <almoxarife> mengazo: foobar should run with wine, time to switch
[04:33] <Jordan_U> Tux_1: No. If it destroyed data it wouldn't have been released as part of e2fsprogs or shipped in Ubuntu.
[04:33] <ikonia> amayer: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[04:34] <mengazo> almoxarife: Buh bye, Windows
[04:34] <amayer> ikonia: i go there and click "downlod 12.10"
[04:34] <amayer> the link "not now, take me to download" leads me to a download page for 12.04
[04:35] <Tux_1> Jordan_U: Thanks, the only info I could find on  google said it was still beta
[04:35] <ikonia> amayer: it doesn't
[04:35] <home> I am not touching Ubuntu until they get their act together
[04:35] <home> right now the only sane choices are Xubuntu, and to an extent Kubuntu
[04:35] <amayer> when i click the link it asks me to save a file with 12.04 in the title
[04:35] <escott> !ot | home
[04:35] <Jordan_U> Tux_1: You're welcome.
[04:36] <amayer> ikonia: go to the link you gave me and try and download the 32 bit version.
[04:37] <amayer> the "not now take me to download" link points to the long term support version
[04:37] <ikonia> amayer: no it doesn't
[04:37] <amayer> dude i just did it.
[04:37] <ikonia> amayer: if you click "get 12.10" it will take you to 12.10, if you click "get 12.04 LTS" it will get 12.04
[04:37] <lunaphyte> amayer: what is your goal?
[04:38] <amayer> ...interesting. when i press ctrl+f5 now it points me to the latest downlod
[04:38] <ikonia> you clicked the wrong link
[04:39] <amayer> no i clicked the first orange button that said download 12.10
[04:39] <Jordan_U> amayer: There are many rotating mirrors, one mirror might have had an incorrect link.
[04:39] <amayer> sorry for the confusion, now my file is downloading correctly
[04:41] <amayer> can i ask general linux questions here? or is there a better channel for that?
[04:41] <escott> amayer, depends on the question itself
[04:42] <lunaphyte> amayer:  /join ##linux
[04:42] <amayer> 2 #'s?
[04:42] <dougbb> yes
[04:42] <dougbb> it's twice as good :)
[04:42] <amayer> escott: i have a question about setting up a mutil-boot linux/linux/linux system
[04:42] <amayer> ill check in ##linux
[04:43] <blackshirt> amayer : mutil-boot ? What is it?
[04:43] <blackshirt> wrong type ?
[04:43] <amayer> putting ubuntu, debian, and crunchbang on the same computer
[04:43] <escott> amayer, not enough to really nail things down. it depends on what bootloaders and what distros you want to have
[04:44] <escott> amayer, but if you question is "how do i boot fedora using the ubuntu bootloader" thats reasonable for both fedora and ubuntu channels
[04:46] <amayer> escott: right now i have ubuntu installed on my laptop. i have 3 other 10Gb partitions. the next distro i want to install is debian. im wondering if i should have made a /boot partition, or if i need 2 boot partitions? ive never done a multi-boot system before
[04:46] <escott> amayer, if you have an EFI system then each of those can put their own version of grub-efi in the efi partition and you can just select from the menu. otherwise you have to pick one to be the primary grub and then the issue is how to get the boot parameters from distro X into the config managed by distro Y
[04:47] <amayer> is efi a file system? is this like a /boot partition?
[04:47] <blackshirt> ada beberapa type
[04:48] <escott> amayer, how old is the laptop and who manufactured it?
[04:48] <amayer> escott: is a compaq and its like 2 years old
[04:48] <escott> amayer, then its not EFI (almost certainly)
[04:49] <amayer> soo... how do i go about setting up mutli-boot(linux only, no windows) i googled it and only found windows and linux dual boot senarios
[04:49] <escott> amayer, when you install debian make sure debian does not install its bootloader to /dev/sda. you might be able to install the debian bootloader to /dev/sda# where # is the debian partition number (ie to the PBR instead of the MBR) this is less stable but grub should be able to chainload grub
[04:51] <amayer> so i want to make a seperate partition and make all of my distros install their boot loaders to that partition?
[04:51] <escott> amayer, so where things get confusing on the multi-boot linux is that debian is configured to manage its own bootloader. so when debian gets a new kernel it updates /boot/grub/grub.cfg in debian's /boot, but the real /boot is the /boot for ubuntu because the grub on the mbr looks at ubuntu's grub.
[04:51] <escott> amayer, now os-prober is smart enough to see the other kernels and os'es and will generate entries for them... but won't be auto-updated by debians getting a new kernel
[04:52] <amayer> escott: so i want to make 1 /boot partition and make all distros use the same partiton?
[04:52] <escott> amayer, and those entries may not have all the entries one would like them to have (ie you make a modification to the boot options in debian... not sure how/if those get over to ubuntus /boot)
[04:52] <escott> amayer, you definitely don't want that... because then each distro stomps on each others grub.cfg
[04:53] <escott> amayer, the ideal thing would be a single /boot... with multiple grub.cfg (ie a grub.fedora.cfg and a grub.debian.cfg) that grub puts together to make the real configuration... but i dont think grub has any ability to do that
[04:53] <amayer> escott: i guess what i dont understand is grub. how do i get grub to let me pick which system im going to boot at start up?
[04:54] <escott> i dont actually know what the best way to deal with the issues are... im just trying to make you aware of them
[04:55] <escott> amayer, as it stands you will have the option to boot debian/crunchbang. just install debian. don't let it install a bootloader. boot ubuntu, rerun "update-grub" and os-prober will automatically pick up on the existence of the other linux distros
[04:56] <dougbb> amayer: that's grub's job, it gives you a menu of things to boot, prior to any OS starting up
[04:56] <escott> you will see an option for the other distros when you boot.... it just may not always be in sync (ie debian gets a new kernel) with the other system until you run update-grub
[04:57] <amayer> so if ubuntu is the first operating system i installed. i should install the other operating systems. then boot to ubuntu and run update-grub and the next time i boot it will ask me which of the 3 distros i want to boot
[04:57] <amayer> ?
[04:57] <dougbb> yes
[04:57] <escott> amayer, yes.
[04:57] <dougbb> and try escott's suggestion of installing the other distros without grub, if they give you that option
[04:58] <escott> amayer, but if the other linux distros install their version of grub to the mbr... then its their responsibility to see ubuntu
[04:58] <escott> amayer, and you may have to do something in them to make them see ubuntu
[04:58] <escott> only one OS can control the boot (with mbr, efi is different but you almost certainly dont have that)
[04:59] <escott> amayer, best thing to do would be to install your os last
[04:59] <dougbb> amayer: install ubuntu last
[04:59] <escott> you might also want to consider kvm if you just want to play around with other linux distros
[04:59] <dougbb> and let _it_ install grub
[05:00] <escott> that ^^^ is assuming you want ubuntu to be the primary (default) linux you will be using
[05:00] <dougbb> or, if you already have ubuntu installed, you may have to follow the "zomg, how do I fix grub?" instructions :)
[05:00] <dougbb> escott: right
[05:00] <dougbb> but ubuntu's grub seems to suck the least
[05:01] <amayer> i do want ubuntu to be the default. but i need debian and i want a 3rd system to test other linux distros
[05:01] <Magiobiwan> o.O
[05:02] <escott> amayer, depending on what you mean by "test" and how powerful this laptop is, virtualization might be easier for you
[05:03] <Magiobiwan> amayer, if your laptop
[05:03] <Magiobiwan> Has Intel VT-x
[05:03] <blackshirt> amayer, i think you better stick with some virtualization solutions ...virtualbox was great one and available on reposutory
[05:03] <bitpimp> I installed openjdk on ubuntu and now need jps... any suggestions?
[05:04] <bitpimp> would like to avoid installing sunjdk just for jps
[05:04] <Magiobiwan> Or AMD Virtualization sipport
[05:04] <Magiobiwan> You might want to enable it in BIOS and just Virtualize some OSes
[05:04] <OerHeks> !java
[05:04] <amayer> the laptop only has 1.5Gb ram and is an AMD 32 bit processor idk if it will run vitual too well
[05:04] <mah454> I Compiled new kernel and switch to this , but consoles [tty1-6] (Ctrl+Alt+F[123456]) not work !
[05:04] <mah454> How can find problem and fix it ?
[05:05] <mah454> compile new kernel (3.6.4)
[05:05] <escott> mah454, (a) why are you compiling your own kernel (b) its probably a modesetting issue
[05:06] <amayer> well its late here. i will try the stuff you guys sugessted and come back if i have an epic fail. thanks
[05:07] <mah454> escott: what mode ?
[05:07] <escott> !nomodeset | mah454
[05:08] <escott> mah454, do you have nvidia graphics?
[05:08] <mah454> escott: yes
[05:09] <mah454> escott: i must rebuild nvidia module ?
[05:09] <escott> mah454, yes you must
[05:10] <mah454> I will come back ...
[05:17] <asoltys_> hi i'm getting this error whenever i try to apt-get install or upgrade: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend upstart-job for hostname, probably a dependency cycle.
[05:18] <asoltys_> i seem to be missing xinetd
[05:19] <escott> asoltys_, missing xinetd? why do you want xinetd?
[05:21] <asoltys_> i was getting errors that mentioned it, after running apt-get install -f for example
[05:21] <escott> asoltys_, perhaps some package pulled it in
[05:22] <asoltys_> any ideas about the upstart-job message? google isn't being very helpful..
[05:24] <escott> !info hostname
[05:24] <escott> asoltys_, i think what is happening is that it is trying to install hostname. hostname installs an upstart-job as part of pre-depend
[05:24] <escott> that is failing in some way
[05:25] <asoltys_> apt-get purge fails with messages about xinetd as well
[05:25] <dougbb> try removing xinetd?
[05:25] <escott> asoltys_, well you certainly should not purge a required package. thats a bad idea
[05:26] <dfgas-cr48> where do i find the xorg config file?         12.04
[05:27] <Guest8798> hmm, ubuntu 11.10 is overheating my laptop like crazy
[05:28] <asoltys_> http://paste.debian.net/208227/
[05:28] <escott> !info powertop | Guest8798 might help some
[05:28] <escott> dfgas-cr48, doesn't exist unless you use nvidia
[05:28] <dfgas-cr48> yah, i use nvidia
[05:29] <escott> dfgas-cr48, then its /etc/X11/Xorg.conf IIRC
[05:29] <dfgas-cr48> not there :(
[05:29] <oupateddie> I have an external HDD coupled via USB port. The systems does not seem to see the HDD. Well this is sporadic, sometiems it sees sometimes not. Any ideas?
[05:29] <escott> dfgas-cr48, use nvidia means nvidia+proprietary drivers
[05:29] <dfgas-cr48> maybe this is why i have video tearing
[05:29] <dfgas-cr48> hmmmm
[05:29] <escott> oupateddie, plug in the USB and look at dmesg | tail -n 20
[05:29] <oupateddie> stand by
[05:29] <dfgas-cr48> i will have to change windows managers then, right now its just booting to xbmc
[05:31] <almoxarife> dfgas-cr48: locate a file with this much of the file name in it 'xorg.conf' , use the 'locate' command, tell me what you find
[05:31] <oupateddie> escott - device descriptor read/64, error -71 is displayed on the first line followed by
[05:32] <oupateddie> new full speed USB device number 12 using uhci_hcd
[05:32] <escott> oupateddie, can you paste the whole thing to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:32] <Guest8798> hmm, what do i do with powertop to find out power usage?
[05:32] <oupateddie> stand by
[05:32] <escott> oupateddie, ideally run "dmesg | tail -n ##" and keep increasing ## until there is a gap in the numbers on the left
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Guest8798: There isn't enough information available to the OS to actually determine the exact power usage of your computer.
[05:34] <oupateddie> escott -  have pasted
[05:34] <Jordan_U> Guest8798: Hopefully one day we'll have smart power supplies or similar in most computers, but that isn't the case today.
[05:35] <escott> oupateddie, i need the link :)
[05:36] <oupateddie> sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349812/
[05:36] <escott> Guest8798, you can run powertop, it will show what processes are keeping the CPU busy,  there are a few tunables, but the bulk of the energy usage is probably coming from your graphics card
[05:37] <Guest8798> graphics card?
[05:37] <asoltys_> escott: i pasted my xinetd issue too, any suggestions?
[05:37] <dougbb> Guest8798: what kind of graphics do you have?
[05:37] <dougbb> asoltys_: what about removing xinetd?
[05:38] <asoltys_> dougbb: i tried, see http://paste.debian.net/208227/
[05:38] <Guest8798> ati hd4570
[05:38] <asoltys_> seems like a bit of a catch-22 situation :)
[05:39] <escott> asoltys_, the way i would deal with that issue is to go into /var/lib/dpkg/info/xinetd.prerm and comment out the "set -e" on the second line
[05:39] <dougbb> isn't there a force option for apt-get?
[05:39] <escott> oupateddie, you have to paste to us the link generated when you submit to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <oupateddie> escott I have here it is again  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349812/
[05:40] <asoltys_> escott: i don't see a set -e anywhere in that file: http://paste.debian.net/208229/
[05:40] <escott> oupateddie, the device is bad... can't say much more about it than that
[05:41] <escott> asoltys_, remove the "-e" after the shebang (#!/bin/sh
[05:41] <oupateddie> ok, it is sporadic sometimes it works and then sometimes not, could it be the physical usb plug?
[05:42] <escott> oupateddie, maybe
[05:43] <escott> oupateddie, if its wobbling around and not making a solid electrical contact maybe
[05:43] <oupateddie> thanks
[05:43] <escott> oupateddie, could also be that the chip on the disk is overheating and bonking out
[05:43] <escott> oupateddie, put it in the freezer for a few minutes...
[05:43] <oupateddie> will tryn that but it is still cool here, it is early morning here in Africa\
[05:44] <almoxarife> cool in africa :)
[05:44] <Dudeet> Anybody familiar with psybnc in here?
[05:44] <oupateddie> well 20C is still cool
[05:44] <Guest8798> not cool with core temps at 96C here :(
[05:45] <Guest8798> its so hot its heating up the room :E
[05:45] <almoxarife> 20c?
[05:45]  * almoxarife does not know 'c'
[05:45] <oupateddie> 20 degrees Celsuis
[05:45] <asoltys_> escott: ok, done.  and was able to remove xinetd now.  still can't install packages though: http://paste.debian.net/208231/
[05:46] <escott> asoltys_, no wonder you got problems: "The following packages will be REMOVED: sysvinit"
[05:47] <escott> asoltys_, maybe try to install upstart... i dunno. sysvinit... perhaps have an exorcism... or just burn it
[05:48] <asoltys_> yeah, i got problems. this was a new vps that supposedly had 12.04 but the apt sources were for hardy and lsb_release reported it as being hardy.  i replaced the apt sources with 12.04 ones and think i ran dist-upgrade or something and now it's FUBAR'd.  i'll ask them to burn it
[05:49] <escott> asoltys_, yeah you did that wrong. proper command is do-release-upgrade... you cant just swap out sources.list
[05:49] <escott> asoltys_, nuke it and try again
[05:49] <asoltys_> okey doke, thanks for your time!
[05:50] <escott> !eol | asoltys_ if they give you hardy again
[05:52] <asoltys_> cool, thanks
[05:59] <escott> !nickspam | ControllerSYR
[06:06] <pika> hello i have removed pulseaudio i would like to know how to reinstall it
[06:07] <escott> pika, apt-get install pulseaudio
[06:08] <blackshirt> pika, aptitude reinstall blablabla
[06:08] <escott> thats not going to get everything back for you though. you might check your dpkg logs
[06:08] <pika> escott : i did this bu the icon is still not showing
[06:09] <blackshirt> mahesa ?
[06:10] <pika> escott: when i type "pulseaudio" in terminal its tells me the deamon is already running
[06:10] <escott> thats not going to get everything back for you though. you might check your dpkg logs
[06:10] <pika> escott: how ?
[06:11] <escott> pika, you removed a core system functionality... doing so triggered the removal of lots of other stuff... you have to go put all that back too. /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:12] <pika> escott oh i see
[06:14] <escott> pika, you could try and shortcut the process by reinstalling ubuntu-desktop with a fix-dependencies option... not sure exactly what that would be
[06:15] <dougbb> Is there a clever way to stop the proliferation of ~/.goutputstream files?
[06:17] <tdignan> hey, every so often I completely lose a window in unity and can't find it with super+w, alt tab, or even switching workspaces, or double clicking the launcher icon
[06:17] <tdignan> are there any other ways to find windows that have been misplaced and move them?
[06:18] <gutzmek> evening all
[06:18] <OerHeks> tdignan, press winkey + s
[06:18] <tdignan> winkey is super
[06:18] <tdignan> i covered that
[06:18] <tdignan> although thanks for caring
[06:19] <Heisenberg> hi
[06:19] <tdignan> oh wait, +s?
[06:19] <gutzmek> im thinkin bout switchin distros
[06:19] <dougbb> xubuntu is nice :)
[06:19] <tdignan> cool keybinding but that doesn't find them either
[06:19] <Heisenberg> how to change resolution of console, tty1, tty2
[06:19] <gutzmek> im getting that
[06:19] <tdignan> it's the workspace switcher
[06:20] <escott> Heisenberg, there are kernel framebuffer resolution parameters
[06:21] <escott> Heisenberg, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/fbcon.txt
[06:22] <Heisenberg> escott: thanks =D
[06:24] <mah454> I need command for find current screen resolution .
[06:25] <tdignan> xrandr
[06:26] <aaas> so im trying to compile something ('make release') from source and it says 'sound/core.h: no such file or directory'  if I do a apt-file I see that linux-headers have this file, however these are already installed.. the file that references this has the line #include <sound/core.h>... any ideas?
[06:26] <gutzmek> happy birthday to me :)
[06:26] <shuhaib> hi everybody
[06:26] <shuhaib> hello..It was verry ver sad morning today..accidently deleted all my phone contact  today..please advice me to recover my contcat using any sotware
[06:27] <aaas> shuhaib what type of phone?
[06:27] <escott> aaas, did the ./configure step not catch the path to the kernel?
[06:27] <shuhaib> Nokia
[06:27] <escott> aaas, perhaps make sure that kernel-headers are installed for what is coming out of uname
[06:28] <aaas> escott there is no configure with this particuar source (musescore)
[06:28] <aaas> escott yes tried that
[06:28] <shuhaib> aaas ->it nokia phone
[06:28] <escott> aaas, modify the makefile to include the search path/linker path
[06:28] <escott> aaas, -l and -L
[06:28] <shuhaib> Noika n86
[06:29] <aaas> shuhaib sorry i dont know if it's a feature phone... you might be sol..maybe there's another channel not really an #ubuntu question
[06:29] <shuhaib> okey
[06:30] <shuhaib> can we sugget any recovery software for ubuntu
[06:30] <shuhaib> let me try on that
[06:30] <aaas> shuhaib unless you ever synced to outlook, facebook, etc... did you sync to ubuntu at some point? was it on a program or on the phone
[06:30] <shuhaib> any how its stores as csv file
[06:31] <crimsonmane> maybe just go through your previous phone bill?
[06:31] <shuhaib> its in phone memory card
[06:32] <crimsonmane> who is your service provider, shuhaib ?
[06:32] <aaas> shuhaib ah and you want to try and run data recovery software on the memory card?
[06:32] <shuhaib> Vodafone
[06:33] <crimsonmane> you're S.O.L
[06:33] <shuhaib> yep..I want try to recver my data on memory
[06:33] <crimsonmane> you can't
[06:33] <crimsonmane> because the data was never destroyed
[06:33] <talpur_> hi
[06:34] <aaas> shuhaib sorry I'm not familar, it depends on the filesystem type, but you would probably be better off just calling people
[06:34] <aaas> shuhaib just get on facebook or email and just send a mass email or something
[06:34] <crimsonmane> what he lost was a very special Party Line number ... it wasn't a good friend, otherwise he'd just meet up with that person and get the number
[06:35] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: First, don't get your hopes up because you probably won't be able to recover anything. That said, does the phone support a USB Mass Storage device mode, or can you read the memory card from a card reader (connected to a computer)?
[06:35] <shuhaib> In Tired couple of software available in windows asking but asking key
[06:36] <talpur_> hi members need help. I want to remove directry using command ...rm -r /usr/lib/jvm    message comes dirctory is write protected and this directory consists many other directories...But I want to forecly remove it..So whic command should I use
[06:36] <crimsonmane> yeah you kinda have to pay for stuff sometimes, shuhaib
[06:36] <shuhaib> There I could see my csv file.But I coudn't save my file as its trail version
[06:36] <crimsonmane> talpur_: rm -f
[06:36] <crimsonmane> shuhaib: your csv file is empty anyway
[06:37] <shuhaib> is there any software availabe in ubuntu to recover my file as free
[06:37] <Jordan_U> talpur_: Why do you want to remove this directory?
[06:37] <crimsonmane> nope
[06:37] <shuhaib> no it has file
[06:37] <crimsonmane> shuhaib: the file exists. yeah. but it's empty.
[06:38] <shuhaib> it shows the file size as well
[06:38] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: Presumably "4K"?
[06:38] <shuhaib> 886 kb some thin it was showing
[06:38] <crimsonmane> yes the file has reserved space
[06:39] <talpur_> Jorden_U: from two days I want to install jre for eclipse , so for that I install differnt packages but could get the Purpose now I find the sloution so I want to remove it again make fresh installation for that
[06:39] <crimsonmane> i'm telling you when you deleted your contacts, that file became empty. that is how it works
[06:39] <aaas> shuhaib http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1910791
[06:39] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: First, don't get your hopes up because you probably won't be able to recover anything. That said, does the phone support a USB Mass Storage device mode, or can you read the memory card from a card reader (connected to a computer)?
[06:39] <aaas> shuhaib but it will almost certainly be easier emailing people
[06:39] <talpur_> Jordan_U: from two days I want to install jre for eclipse , so for that I install differnt packages but could get the Purpose now I find the sloution so I want to remove it again make fresh installation for that
[06:40] <crimsonmane> shuhaib: the link provided by aaas will not help you. in their issue they want to recover deleted files. but in your issue the file is not deleted.
[06:40] <Jordan_U> talpur_: The proper way to do that would be by removing the packages with apt-get, not by removing the files that the packages installed.
[06:40] <shuhaib> My phone connected using USB
[06:41] <talpur_> Jardan_U: I don't remeber how many packages I have installed theer in two days
[06:41] <shuhaib> But I don't have all people email..But I can do that in another way as well
[06:41] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: You haven't answered my question. Is that because you didn't understand it or because you didn't see it?
[06:42] <shuhaib> No i answered
[06:42] <talpur_> Jordan_U: I don't remeber how many packages I have installed theer in two days
[06:42] <shuhaib> Jordan_U
[06:42] <shuhaib> it does the phone support a USB Mass Storage device mode ..
[06:42] <Jordan_U> talpur_: "dpkg -S /usr/lib/jvm/" will list all installed packages with files in /usr/lib/jvm/.
[06:43] <shuhaib> Jordan_U   it does the phone support a USB Mass Storage device mode ..
[06:43] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: Please connect the phone in USBMS mode and pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".
[06:44] <talpur_> Jordan_U: list comes..now what command should I use to remove those packages..like one package is ..openjdk-6-jre
[06:45] <shuhaib> I connected my phone using usb
[06:45] <shuhaib> and it shows the mass stoarage
[06:45] <shuhaib> pastebin the output of "sudo blkid". what does it mean  Jordan_U?
[06:46] <Jordan_U> talpur_: sudo apt-get remove openjdk-6-jre
[06:46] <BluesKaj> !blkid
[06:47] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: Are you booted into Ubuntu currently?
[06:47] <shuhaib> Jordan_U next step please
[06:47] <shuhaib> yep
[06:47] <crimsonmane> talpur_: actually you should do "sudo apt-get purge <packagename>"
[06:48] <shuhaib> I am working ubuntu right now
[06:48] <talpur_> ordan_U: I find the command from your previous Answer remove package....thats a lot for your kind help
[06:48] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: Do you know how to run commands in the terminal?
[06:48] <Jordan_U> talpur_: You're welcome.
[06:48] <talpur_> crimsonmane: thanks a lot
[06:48] <shuhaib> yep
[06:48] <shuhaib> Sure
[06:49] <shuhaib> I know how to run
[06:49] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: Run "sudo blkid", then copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and give us a link to the pastebin that creates.
[06:54] <Jordan_U> shuhaib: Did you understand my last comment?
[06:55] <crimsonmane> finally
[06:56] <phunyguy_x1_> hey folks, I am trying out banshee for my media player, and I can't get it to stay running long enough to listen to an entire song.  It crashes after a couple minutes (freezes and window goes dim).  I can't get the banshee process to kill.  Tried a couple kill -9 {pid} commands, but it's not doing the trick.  How do I get this process killed short of logging out/rebooting?
[06:57] <TomFlint> Hello
[06:59] <crimsonmane> phunyguy_x1_: killall -9
[06:59] <phunyguy_x1_> crimsonmane, I did that.
[07:00] <crimsonmane> phunyguy_x1_: pkill -9
[07:00] <crimsonmane> killall uses "process name" not number, i think
[07:00] <phunyguy_x1_> nope.
[07:00] <phunyguy_x1_> i understand the kill commands.  THey just wont kill it
[07:00] <crimsonmane> phunyguy_x1_: ps -e | grep bansh
[07:00] <phunyguy_x1_> it laughs in the face of killall
[07:00] <phunyguy_x1_> there are two labeled as [defunct]
[07:00] <tozen> hi people does anybody knows to how can I change the size of mplayers window by the hotkeys? thx
[07:01] <phunyguy_x1_> tozen, someone here may know, but #mplayer has some good folks in it
[07:01] <crimsonmane> kill -9 <banshee process id>
[07:02] <tozen> phunyguy_x1_, 4example?
[07:02] <crimsonmane> tozen: alt+space
[07:02] <phunyguy_x1_> crimsonmane, for the third time, I have done that
[07:02] <Jordan_U> shuhaib_: Run "sudo blkid", then copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and give us a link to the pastebin that creates.
[07:03] <Jordan_U> shuhaib_: Or, if you're not *very* motivated to get these contacts back, give up now.
[07:03] <tozen> crimsonmene, not this I mean x2, x4 smth like that
[07:04] <crimsonmane> tozen: google "mplayer hotkeys"
[07:04] <phunyguy_x1_> I have never seen kill -9 not kill a process
[07:04] <phunyguy_x1_> especially as sudo
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> i got a purple screen freezing at boot, need reboot to login screen, how can i solve?
[07:05] <tdignan> a process can be defunct, but at that point it isn't running. just impossible to remove from the process table.
[07:05] <node1> hi all
[07:05] <tdignan> processes can't ignore sigkill
[07:05] <phunyguy_x1_> tdignan, it is definitely ignoring it
[07:06] <crimsonmane> is banshee still open?
[07:06] <tozen> crimsonmane, it's so easy to say... don't you think I've already tried?
[07:06] <node1> have you ever tried ubuntu 12.10?
[07:06] <crimsonmane> tozen: you'd be surprised
[07:07] <tozen> crimsonmane: ok, I'll try again lol
[07:07] <tdignan> phunyguy_x1_: from man signal(7):   The signals SIGKILL and SIGSTOP cannot be caught, blocked, or ignored.
[07:07] <crimsonmane> tozen: what i meant was, some people dont try first
[07:07] <tdignan> i'm going to side with the man page.
[07:07] <phunyguy_x1_> tdignan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349907/
[07:07] <node1> go ahead
[07:07] <tdignan> phunyguy_x1_: defunct is different, it's not running. the process is dead and gone
[07:08] <tozen> crimsonmane: I'm habit to use an search machine first, pal
[07:08] <tdignan> it's just that you can't remove the entry from the process table
[07:08] <tdignan> it's fine. just leave it
[07:08] <crimsonmane> phunyguy_x1_: now try "ps -e | grep bansh
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> what could cause a purple screen at boot to freeze? need hard shutdown to solve proper boot
[07:08] <phunyguy_x1_> crimsonmane, it is listed under ps -e
[07:09] <crimsonmane> ok was just curious
[07:09] <tdignan> the only way you're getting rid of a 'defunct' process is by rebooting.
[07:09] <OerHeks> tozen, hold winkey, there is a shortkey to resize any windows > alt middle mouse drag
[07:09] <phunyguy_x1_> tdignan, I cant get banshee to relaunch
[07:09] <tdignan> phunyguy_x1_: i don't think it's related to the process table. can you pastebin the output of "strace banshee 2>log.txt"
[07:09] <tdignan> actually "strace banshee &>log.txt" is best
[07:09] <tdignan> there might be a pid file or something left behind that just needs to be rm'd
[07:10] <phunyguy_x1_> the strace may not show anything
[07:10] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Please pastebin the output of "pstree -p".
[07:10] <tdignan> try it and see
[07:10] <phunyguy_x1_> if I run the banshee command by itself I just get a blinking cursor and no output
[07:10] <tdignan> do the strace please.
[07:10] <crimsonmane> gksudo banshee
[07:10] <tdignan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process <-- read more here.
[07:10] <tozen> OerHeks: dgag
[07:11] <phunyguy_x1_> wow it got full quick
[07:11] <phunyguy_x1_> I ctrl-c'd it
[07:11] <phunyguy_x1_> lots of lines
[07:11] <tozen> OerHeks: dragging isnota solution
[07:11] <tdignan> did you not do the redirect!
[07:11] <tdignan> phunyguy_x1_: &>log.txt <------ was an important part
[07:11] <phunyguy_x1_> nope ran it before you corrected
[07:11] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: crimsonmane: Do *not* run banshee as root, that is a silly and possibly dangerous thing to do.
[07:11] <tdignan> eh 2> shoulda done it as well
[07:12] <tdignan> just 2> would allow banshee to output any of its own stdout
[07:12] <OerHeks> tozen then F11 full screen is your only option.
[07:12] <tdignan> and redirect only the stderr (strace output in our case)
[07:12] <tozen> ok, thx
[07:12] <phunyguy_x1_> tdignan nothing changed, still lots of output that is cryptic.
[07:12] <tdignan> phunyguy_x1_: you are supposed to pastebin that output and allow me to read it
[07:12] <tdignan> because I understand it, it is not cryptic to me
[07:13] <tdignan> man, this is like taking a horse to the stream and then forcing it to drink.
[07:13] <phunyguy_x1_> lol, ok... hang tight
[07:13] <crimsonmane> it's interesting learning
[07:13] <Jordan_U> crimsonmane: Recommending running commands as root, when they were clearly not designed to be, is irresponsible. Please be more careful in the future and only recommend running commands as root when you *know* that the command is designed to be run as root.
[07:13] <tozen> OerHeks: so here is no any options to get it double sized or triple for example?
[07:14] <tdignan> phunyguy_x1_: apt-get install pastebinit if you want to be able to easily pastebin stuff from the command line
[07:14] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Please pastebin the output of "pstree -p".
[07:14] <tdignan> pstree -p |pastebinit :P
[07:14] <talpur_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1349912/  plz see the link I have problem to remove the packages
[07:14] <crimsonmane> Jordan_U: the objective was to run the program using default profile settings, ergo gksudo was in good recommendation
[07:14] <phunyguy_x1_> tdignan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349913/
[07:14] <Jordan_U> crimsonmane: No, it was not. Not even close.
[07:15] <crimsonmane> for diagnostics, it most certainly was
[07:15] <crimsonmane> playing music while it's in gksudo perhaps would not be
[07:15] <talpur_> crimsonmane: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1349912/          see plz link purge not working to remove
[07:15] <phunyguy_x1_> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349916/
[07:15] <crimsonmane> but opening a program in that fashion is useful diagnostics
[07:16] <Jordan_U> crimsonmane: If you had recommended "gksudo -u some_other_unpriveleged_user" that would have been reasonable. Suggesting running an application like banshee as root was irresponsible, there is absolutely no question about it.
[07:16] <crimsonmane> talpur_: the difference between purge and remove is purge will delete saved settings. you can also add the -f flag to --force the removal
[07:16] <dougbb> crimsonmane: you're welcome to do whatever you want on your own box, but as a general recommendation in an open channel, it's a very bad idea
[07:17] <crimsonmane> perhaps you both could spend some time reading the gksudo information. in a diagnostics approach my suggestion was fine.
[07:17] <phunyguy_x1_> whoa whoa whoa whoa
[07:17] <phunyguy_x1_> crimsonmane, even I know better
[07:17] <phunyguy_x1_> tisk tisk
[07:17] <tdignan> phunyguy_x1_: have you tried killall -9 banshee
[07:18] <tdignan> maybe there are some other processes you missed
[07:18] <phunyguy_x1_> yup, no go
[07:18] <phunyguy_x1_> maybe I should just reboot
[07:18] <talpur_> crimsonmane: Yes I use that but the error is it couldn't locate the package and I am seeing it from ls that it is exited
[07:18] <phunyguy_x1_> but I am afraid it will keep happening
[07:19] <dougbb> phunyguy_x1_: probably want to consider a different player :)
[07:19] <Jordan_U> crimsonmane: I know exactly what gksudo does, and how it differs from plain sudo. That does not change the fact that it is not responsible to recommend running applications as root that were not designed to be run as root. If you'd like to continue this discussion please do so in #ubuntu-ops.
[07:19] <aaas> rrrrr "sound/core.h: No such file or directory" using 'make release' (musescore), no configure script, apt-file shows sound/core.h in header file.  /usr/src/linux/include (linux symbolic link to kernel headers the same as uname -a (except no -generic)) in path and ld_library_path, make clean and reestart make release still doesn't work..any ideas?
[07:19] <tdignan> phunyguy_x1_: try mv ~/.config/banshee-1 ~/backup-banshee
[07:19] <tdignan> then restart banshee
[07:20] <crimsonmane> that's alright Jordan_U. I'll let you Nazi's have the final word. it's how these places are run after all.
[07:20] <tdignan> restart it from a terminal, so you can see any clues it might print
[07:20] <phunyguy_x1_> dougb I am trying to... thats why I tried banshee
[07:20] <phunyguy_x1_> rhythmbox just will not do at all (playing music from cifs shares in gvfs)
[07:20] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: kill 7282; kill 7584
[07:20] <phunyguy_x1_> and I need ipod management as well
[07:21] <fish47> Hi everyone, I'm looking forward to find a hook script which will be run after the X started. By the way, xinitrc/xsession don't work at all. Thanks.
[07:21] <phunyguy_x1_> Jordan_U, nope
[07:21] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: If that doesn't do it, then "kill -9 7282; kill -9 7584".
[07:22] <talpur_> how I remove OpenJDK from my system
[07:22] <phunyguy_x1_> no go Jordan_U
[07:22] <tdignan> why,so you can make sure you're using the oracle jdk?
[07:22] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Did you get any error message from either of those commands?
[07:22] <phunyguy_x1_> Jordan_U, nope.
[07:22] <tdignan> just change JAVA_HOME and PATH in your ~/.bash_profile. There is no need to remove the openjdk when your system software might be depending on it.
[07:23] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Can you pastebin the output of "pstree -p" again?
[07:24] <phunyguy_x1_> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349935/
[07:24] <tdignan> do other apps that play audio work?
[07:25] <phunyguy_x1_> tdignan, yes
[07:26] <phunyguy_x1_> my issue with rhythmbox is importing from the fuse-mounted cifs share is painfully slow
[07:27] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: I've never before seen a defunct process whose parent is init. That either indicates that something I'm not thinking about is going on, or something is terribly broken.
[07:27] <phunyguy_x1_> shouldnt be that time consuming to look at a few lines of metadata
[07:27] <phunyguy_x1_> Jordan_U, I hear ya
[07:28] <phunyguy_x1_> but yeah, with Rhythmbox I get import errors that are timeouts
[07:28] <phunyguy_x1_> it just takes too long
[07:28] <phunyguy_x1_> other apps pull in really fast but are missing features I need
[07:31] <ghabit> phunyguy_x1, I have some errors with rhytmbox too. Mostly on collection scanning.
[07:31] <phunyguy_x1_> ghabit, is your music stored on a share?
[07:32] <ghabit> phunyguy_x1, no, it's on local ntfs partition.
[07:32] <phunyguy_x1_> is the ntfs partition mounted via fuse?
[07:32] <phunyguy_x1_> (gvfs)
[07:33] <phunyguy_x1_> see where I am going?
[07:33] <Guest49256> hi guys i am running 12.10 and i followed the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190 to install my canon lbp 2900 printer , but not working :( , any working guide available ?
[07:34] <ghabit> phunyguy_x1, sorry, I don't know how to answer your question. But I can give you /etc/fstab line, here it is: "/media/e was on /dev/sdb6 during installation
[07:34] <ghabit> UUID=6E6A8B816A8B4535 /media/e        ntfs    defaults,umask=002,gid=46 0"
[07:34] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: What made you think that it was defunct, rather than in an uninterruptible sleep (which is what 'D' in the process status means, 'Z' is defunct)?
[07:34] <phunyguy_x1_> Jordan_U, ps -axf | grep banshee listed it as <defunct>
[07:35] <phunyguy_x1_> ghabit nevermind then
[07:35] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: That really is bizarre.
[07:36] <aaas> why isn't my compile script aware of my headers in /usr/src/linux-header
[07:36] <phunyguy_x1_> Jordan_U, yer tellin me, lol
[07:36] <dougbb> aaas, probably lack of a -I
[07:37] <phunyguy_x1_> dougbb what do you use for music? (since you made that comment)
[07:37] <aaas> dougbb if I only have a makefile (no configure) using cmake any idea what I would modivy
[07:37] <aaas> modify*
[07:37] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: We can try sending SIGCHLD to init to tell it to reap its children, but we really shouldn't need to do that (and I don't know if it will help).
[07:38] <dougbb> phunyguy_ whatever xubuntu uses when I click on a music file :)
[07:38] <phunyguy_x1_> Jordan_U, I will reboot in a bit
[07:38] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: But that's not as fun, we won't have solved the mystery :)
[07:38] <dougbb> aaas: no idea, I hate cmake :)
[07:38] <phunyguy_x1_> well then
[07:38] <phunyguy_x1_> lol
[07:39] <dougbb> phunyguy_ I've used rhythmbox in the past, it seemed ok
[07:39] <lonewulf85> Is there a way to set unity so it will start on the applications lens?
[07:39] <dougbb> I'm wondering if banshee is now suffering from the same symptom as your trial of rhythmbox did, and it's hung trying to close an fd
[07:40] <ahmet> selamlar
[07:40] <ahmet> :)
[07:40] <phunyguy_x1_> "close an fd"?
[07:40] <T3> T3
[07:40] <dougbb> close a file descriptor
[07:40] <phunyguy_x1_> ohh...
[07:40] <Jordan_U> dougbb: Then it wouldn't be defunct though.
[07:40] <phunyguy_x1_> maybe i can remount the shares
[07:41] <phunyguy_x1_> share*
[07:41] <dougbb> if the file system with your music is flaky, that could be what is causing the problem with both programs, but maybe banshee is handling it very poorly
[07:41] <dougbb> Jordan_U: it definitely shouldn't be doing what it is doing now in any case :)
[07:41] <phunyguy_x1_> dougbb i dont think the filesystem is flaky, i think gvfs is flaky
[07:41] <dougbb> from the client perspective, same difference
[07:41] <lonewulf85> Is there a way to set unity so it will start on the applications lens? Please.
[07:42] <phunyguy_x1_> yup
[07:42] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: I can't be sure that this won't have a terrible system stopping side effect, but I don't think it will. Try running "sudo kill -s CHLD 1".
[07:42] <phunyguy_x1_> worst that happens... I have to reboot?
[07:42] <phunyguy_x1_> lol
[07:42] <murlidhar> hello all i am not able to run the app gnome-media-player. can anyone help me run it successfully
[07:42] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Yes.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: And lose all data in currently running applications.
[07:42] <dougbb> worst that happens with that is that the system comes to a screeching halt ... make sure you don't have anything open you care about
[07:42] <murlidhar> gives some segmentation fault.
[07:43] <phunyguy_x1_> seems to have no effect Jordan_U
[07:43] <phunyguy_x1_> and no smoke from the side of the laptop
[07:43] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Please pastebin the complete output of "ps aux".
[07:44] <phunyguy_x1_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349958/
[07:44] <murlidhar> this is the error i get when i try to run gnome-media-player . http://pastebin.com/NUtx0vuF
[07:47] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Please file a bug report against upstart. As far as I can tell, upstart really should have reaped this process.
[07:47] <phunyguy_x1_> oh boy
[07:47] <phunyguy_x1_> not sure I know how
[07:47] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: ubuntu-bug upstart
[07:48] <phunyguy_x1_> well I dont really know the issue
[07:48] <lynnx> e
[07:48] <murlidhar> this is the error i get when i try to run gnome-media-player . http://pastebin.com/NUtx0vuF
[07:49] <phunyguy_x1_> no-need to repost murlidhar
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> !patience murlidhar
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> !patience | murlidhar
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> fail
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> :P
[07:50] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Say that "PID 1, upstart, failed to reap one of its children (banshee)" and include the output of "ps aux" and "pstree -p". And please subscribe me (JordanU on launchpad) to the report.
[07:50] <murlidhar> phunyguy_x1_: i know . sorry about that  . i thought please missed it.
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> k
[07:51] <murlidhar> thanks for reminding me though :)
[07:51] <murlidhar> so here what you do ? take care of such people who make noise here ?
[07:53] <murlidhar> ah nevermind guys :) guess no one knows how to solve. take cares all . bye...
[07:55] <phunyguy_x1_> done Jordan_U
[07:55] <phunyguy_x1_> thanks for the assist
[07:55] <phunyguy_x1_> rebooting now
[07:56] <phunyguy_x1> man this thing reboots fast =D
[07:56] <phunyguy_x1> (Lenovo X1 Carbon, i7, and SSD)
[07:57] <tdignan> nice
[07:57] <tdignan> i have a low-end laptop, but ubuntu boots about 20x faster than win7 anyway
[07:57] <phunyguy_x1> cool
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> this belongs to my job
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> i wish it was mine
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> lol
[07:58] <tdignan> I will have to upgrade soon. I'm starting to get kinda wasteful with my browser tabs..
[07:58] <tdignan> I use this for work...
[07:58] <tdignan> unfortunately, lol
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> lol I have a Microsoft Surface waiting for me on Monday too *vomit*
[07:58] <tdignan> maybe a little ram will fix the issue, but I think the CPU is the bottleneck here
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> may try to stick ubuntu on it
[07:59] <tdignan> oh, I'm sorry to hear that
[07:59] <tdignan> it might work as a coaster
[07:59] <joe__> hi
[07:59] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1: Now I'm finding from #upstart that I was probably wrong it my assessment, so I might ask you to close that bug report :(
[08:00] <pecock> he
[08:00] <pecock> !ot
[08:01] <bioh> Hello everyone. Is there any application or extension that allows adjust different channels volume (like a sound mixer in sound settings) right from toolbar?
[08:01] <phunyguy_x1> k
[08:01] <joe__> have an levono t61 with lubuntu. wlan not works. driver is iwlagn. Problem seems to be: iwconfig say: Power Management:off. how can i activate power management? any idea ?
[08:02] <phunyguy_x1> joe__,  Fn-F5
[08:03] <phunyguy_x1> or whichever F-key the antenna is on
[08:03] <whywat> i heard ubuntu no longer support 11.....
[08:04] <joe__> i test FN+F5  no reaction by computer, iwconfig say always power managemant off
[08:11] <auronandace> whywat: 11.10 is still supported
[08:11] <joe__> t61 :: wlan not work. any idea ?
[08:12] <whywat> really ? why then I received a message saying otherwise
[08:13] <auronandace> whywat: what are you talking about
[08:13] <auronandace> !topic | whywat
[08:14] <manulinux> hi
[08:14] <joe__> how i can activate power management set to on for the wlan ? FM+F not works. really Ubuntu 11.04 not supported here ?
[08:15] <auronandace> joe__: 11.04 is no longer supported
[08:15] <joe__> is there a simple method to update ?
[08:16] <auronandace> !eol | joe__
[08:16] <wifioregon> Anyone know of a pdf editor for Ubuntu? Libreoffice seems pretty limited. Or maybe just a pdf to doc or docx convertor?
[08:16] <joe__> thx
[08:23] <thanigai> how can i run this command line (sudo hostapd hostapd.conf) when i insert wifi adaptor.
[08:27] <rinzler> how do I list the video cards I have installed?
[08:30] <Phase> Anyone know a decent free backup service I can automate pushing backups to via bash script?
[08:32] <iqone> http://fusionpower.110mb.com/
[08:38] <rinzler> what is the best way to go about installing the correct drivers for my video card?
[08:50] <nydel> Phase: can you just do a cronjob?
[08:50] <Phase> nydel: sure, but the issue is somewhere to put the files :)
[08:51] <nydel> Phase: ohh you need storage
[08:51] <Phase> yeah
[08:51] <nydel> pm me & i'll give you a shell on my server
[08:51] <nydel> dig?
[08:51] <nydel> infinity space & bandwidth
[08:51] <Phase> infinity space eh
[08:52] <nydel> well i mean as much as you need i guess - i hope it's not like hundreds of gb
[08:52] <Phase> thanks for the offer, but I'd rather know the person
[08:53] <Phase> think I'll just dump it to dropbox
[08:53] <yesudeep> Heya. I'm currently running Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro 17" 5.2 (has two graphics cards with Nvidia 9600GT active). I installed Ubuntu using the amd64+mac Ubuntu 12.10 image. I am able to boot into the system after quite a bit of effort, however, after I enabled the nvidia-current drivers, the login screen does not appear. I am dropped directly into the login shell, which I can use. How do I get Ubuntu to show the login shell?
[08:53] <yesudeep> Also, Ubuntu has been set up to dual boot with Mac OS X Mountain Lion and I do have rEFInd installed to allow me to switch between the two operating systems.
[08:53] <nydel> Phase: hilarious. haha.
[08:54] <nydel> yesudeep: you mean you boot & it automatically logs you in to unity?
[08:54] <zgq> hello
[08:54] <Phase> nydel: :P it's just some minecraft worlds, I've been backing it up manually to my home machine, still might do that, but just automated
[08:55] <yesudeep> nydel: When I boot the machine, it boots me to the login shell and then stops. Unity doesn't show up. Neither does the graphical login screen.
[08:55] <Phase> Does startx still work? haven't used a linux desktop in awhile
[08:56] <nydel> Phase: it's just funny because i just offered you a free host with unjailed shell / ssh, cpanel, a subdomain, sftp, & infinite storage/bandwidth but you don't want it because you're paranoid hehe, which is a good thing in a hacker, so applause.
[08:57] <nydel> ( but not very much applause for not thinking "hmm if this guy /is/ trying to scam me, i can beat him." -- have more confidence! )
[08:57] <Phase> lol
[08:57] <nydel> yesudeep: a terminal?
[08:58] <yesudeep> nydel: yep
[08:58] <yesudeep> nydel: I'm using the terminal and connecting to IRC via Emacs at the moment.
[08:58] <nydel> yesudeep: did you try startx, as Phase suggested?
[08:58] <yesudeep> nydel: going to give that a shot. one sec.
[08:58] <Phase> nydel: I've got a friend I can ask for a some room on his dedi, I just figured I'd see what I could find before that :)
[09:00] <yesudeep> Back on another machine. brb.
[09:00] <nydel> Phase: whatever you like. it's just funny from my end, i offer people free hosting every once in a while & they almost always reject it - it so happens that i'm like the most vigilantly ethical hacker i can be - so it's just so funny to me, like 'ya can't e'en give this stuff away!'
[09:00] <nydel> yesudeep: you could use screen
[09:01] <nydel> yesudeep: launch screen then ctrl-a-ctrl-c then ctrl-a-shift-S then ctrl-a-tab
[09:01] <Phase> nydel: Hah, I'm usually the one telling my friends to be careful with peoples offers of anything.. or read me in and I'll tell you my opinion
[09:01] <yesudeep> Ok. got the error. "FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found." Followed by "no screens found."  "xinit: unable to connect to server: Connection refused."
[09:05] <nydel> Phase: have you got any ideas for yesudeep ?
[09:05] <nydel> be right back need to restart irc client
[09:05] <yesudeep> Hmm. Apparently, a workaround is documented here: http://blog.projectz.me/2012/10/21/setting-up-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-macbook-pro/
[09:06] <Phase> yesudeep: Do you remember which nvidia package you chose?
[09:07] <yesudeep> Phase: nvidia-current
[09:07] <Phase> try it and see if it helps
[09:09] <yesudeep> Phase: yep. doing that at the moment. :)
[09:10] <yesudeep> I'm actually happy I've been able to get Ubuntu running on my MBP after almost a year. It had stopped booting.
[09:10] <yesudeep> nydel: yep. i use tmux.
[09:11] <Phase> still need to try tmux
[09:11] <Phase> I've used screen for years
[09:11] <yesudeep> it's just as easy. the prefix key is C-b instead of C-a.
[09:12] <nydel> not familiar with tmux yet
[09:12] <yesudeep> hooray! that worked.
[09:12] <yesudeep> :)
[09:13] <nydel> yesudeep: yay!!! :)
[09:13] <Phase> yesudeep: Awesome
[09:13] <nydel> way to go Phase
[09:13] <Phase> yesudeep actually found it themself :P
[09:15] <yesudeep> this is awesome. thank you guys, nydel and Phase :)
[09:16] <Phase> glad you got it working :)
[09:16] <nydel> yesudeep: yw. thanks for telling me about tmux, i'm having a ball
[09:17] <Phase> http://willwarren.com/docs/swiftapi/latest/SwiftApi.html
[09:17] <Phase> found something to keep me occupied for a bit
[09:20] <nydel> wow tmux is so cool.
[09:21] <yesudeep> nydel: if you spend quite a bit of time using the Terminal, you might like bash-ido as well. :)
[09:21] <yesudeep> nydel: it completes file paths using the emacs-style "ido-mode". way faster than using just bash-completion.
[09:22] <nydel> that sounds great & like /exactly/ what i need for something right now
[09:22] <theadmin> yesudeep: If you spend quite a bit of time using the Terminal, you'll find yourself using the Z Shell sooner or later :P
[09:23] <yesudeep> theadmin: haha. i'm happy with bash. :p
[09:23] <nydel> i just found the source
[09:23] <nydel> theadmin: is that so!?
[09:23] <theadmin> nydel: Well, I find zsh more powerful
[09:23] <portatile> hallo
[09:23] <Phase> In what ways?
[09:23] <nydel> what do you think of lush?
[09:23] <portatile> bluray
[09:23] <Phase> The only way I interact with linux these days is a terminal (bash shell)
[09:23] <portatile> list
[09:25] <yesudeep> git has actually changed my life. just pull the same configuration over to another machine and i'm all set within minutes.
[09:26] <yesudeep> tons of time saved
[09:27] <blackshirt> yesudeep, great ways to improve
[09:27] <theadmin> yesudeep: Why not Bazaar? Just wondering, I find Git difficult to use, and Bazaar integrates with Ubuntu services better
[09:27] <yesudeep> theadmin: no particular reason. i'm just used to git. :)
[09:28] <theadmin> yesudeep: Mind pm? Want to ask about how you set stuff up
[09:28] <yesudeep> theadmin: plus, the vim Vundle package manager I use clones Vim plugins from github using git. so that kinda helps set up both vim and emacs on all my machines within seconds for example.
[09:29] <blackshirt> git was greats ... Its developed by world famous class kernel hacker
[09:29] <yesudeep> theadmin: http://github.com/gorakhargosh/dotfiles.git <-- vim and general bash configuration.
[09:29] <yesudeep> theadmin: http://github.com/gorakhargosh/gemacs.git <-- emacs configuration. pretty simple really. :)
[09:30] <theadmin> yesudeep: Nah not that, I mean uh, do you use git on your entire home directory or something?
[09:30] <yesudeep> theadmin: nope. not that. we have NFS at work for our home directories. they're automatically backed up.
[09:30] <theadmin> yesudeep: Ah, okay
[09:32] <blackshirt> is it possible to switch entirely from ubuntu to other debian based distro ?
[09:33] <theadmin> blackshirt: Well, yes, by reinstalling...
[09:33] <theadmin> Other than that no
[09:33] <rymate1234> well
[09:33] <rymate1234> youcan switch to other 'buntus
[09:33] <mote> Help. please. -I'm trying to view my system log with the build in "System Log", but hen i click it in the Dash it does not start. -Why? (Quantal)
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> or install another DE then log off and log in to the new DE
[09:34] <blackshirt> theadmin, not that ways ... I mean do it with system preinstalled
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> mote: try running the app from terminal, the output may give clues
[09:34] <yesudeep> ubuntu has come a long way. as a returning user, i'm finding it to be more polished now. :)
[09:34] <rymate1234> blackshirt, why would you want to
[09:34] <mote> ActionParsnip: whats the command, do you know?
[09:35] <theadmin> blackshirt: No, you'd break everything
[09:35] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, that not a matter i mean ...
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> mote: if you grep for 'Exec' in the file in /usr/sahre/applications which runs the command, it will tell you
[09:35] <blackshirt> theadmin, thats not greats
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> mote: what is the name of the app you run:
[09:36] <rymate1234> blackshirt, why would you want to switch to another debian based distro
[09:36] <blackshirt> theadmin, i have successfully switched my debian to other distro...
[09:36] <blackshirt> Exactly the other debbian based distros
[09:36] <mote> ActionParsnip: found it, gnome-system-log. it starts from command line??  But thanks. it was a good idea
[09:37] <blackshirt> rymate1234, just want to know if apt was greats :)
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> mote: grep system-log /usr/share/applications/* | grep Exec
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> mote: should tell you the command
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> mote: you get the idea :)
[09:37] <mote> Yes. Thanks yu
[09:37] <rymate1234> olo
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: it's alreet, try apt-fast :)
[09:38] <mote> ActionParsnip: Yes thank you. have a googd sunday..
[09:38] <blackshirt> theadmin, i think you're right..ubuntu was made a big changes/hooks to the apt/standard packages core ...
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> mote: yeah, working 12 hours. Great :(
[09:38] <mote> ActionParsnip: argh. man, sorry to hear. got a watch somewhere?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> mote: if you run the command in terminal. If it crashes, you should get output in the terminal which should give clues
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> mote: yeah its 0939 here
[09:39] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, why i should go stick with apt-fast ?
[09:39] <mote> ActionParsnip: i'm the sunday morning table with. oh. i'm at 10:39
[09:39] <mote> you are in UK?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: because it downloads using multiple sources via axel. Its like http download vs torrent
[09:39] <mote> ActionParsnip: You are in Uk. -DK here.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> mote: UK all the way
[09:40] <mote> ActionParsnip: Well gtg. cu later. ;-)
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: I always advise it to those using CLI to install apps
[09:40] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, i think that was not my case guys
[09:40] <exalt> hello, in which logbook in /var/log are username changes logged ?
[09:41] <Nastya> hi all
[09:41] <blackshirt> actionparnsip, yes, i always relies on apt / cli to install and uninstall something
[09:41] <AminosAmigos> Hello why webapps were not ported Officially to 12.04  :(
[09:42] <theadmin> AminosAmigos: They were, sudo apt-get install fogger
[09:42] <Nastya> http://vk.com/id189043294
[09:43] <chris_> Hi guys, can someone tell me how to remove only one package from the system, not all included in ubuntu-desktop? I think it's something related with meta packages but can't understant it. Where I can find the meta package for Ubuntu and remove it? Thanks in advance :]
[09:44] <rinzler> I am installing a second video card and it isn't displying anything through it, but in Arandr it displays the old working card as [interface]-2 and the new card (that I assume would be labeled [interface]-1) is non existent. any ideas on how to get the new card working?
[09:44] <blackshirt> theadmin, actionparsnip,i think it was greats if you can switch ubuntu to other debian based distros easily ...
[09:44] <theadmin> blackshirt: No, it'd be just crazy.
[09:45] <ariel1234> Hi. Yesterday I was advised to install Wicd instead of default network manager. It worked for the rest of the day, but now it does not work
[09:46] <blackshirt> theadmin, for some perspectives yes, but from others it was good .d .. It was just an idea
[09:46]  * Nastya http://vk.com/id189043294 - it's me join me)
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> chris_: you can remove metapackages, it does nothing
[09:46] <ariel1234> at first the internet never worked, yesterday when i installed Wicd it worked for the rest of the day perfectly, now its useless, does not work at all
[09:46] <ariel1234> just gives an error message
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: it will always take a reinstall to be sure of a stable OS
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[09:46] <blackshirt> theadmin, they all share the same barebones from apt system
[09:47] <ariel1234> what do i enter in to the command line?
[09:47] <theadmin> blackshirt: No, they do not.
[09:47] <theadmin> blackshirt: Ubuntu uses it's own packages, patches, repositories, everything is different. Package names would differ too.
[09:47] <ariel1234> what do i enter into command line to ping 8.8.8.8 as actionparsnip said?
[09:47] <blackshirt> theadmin, yes,we know ... Ubuntu make differgences so far with others .d
[09:48] <theadmin> ariel1234: ping 8.8.8.8
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: ping 8.8.8.8
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: its the same in ALL OSes
[09:48] <ariel1234> i entered in ping 8.8.8.8 and it said network unreachable
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: do you get replies, or is the network unreachable?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: ok, press CTRL+C to kill it
[09:48] <ariel1234> it said 'connect: Network is Unreachable'
[09:49] <theadmin> ariel1234: Is the Wicd daemon started? "sudo start wicd"
[09:49] <ariel1234> it said exactly what i have written in inverted commas
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: if you run:  sudo dhclient3 wlan0     do you get an IP via DHCP?
[09:50] <ariel1234> yes, i have the actual wicd program open, but it does not connect
[09:50] <rinzler> I am installing a second video card and nothing is being displayed through it, but in Arandr it displays the old working card as [interface]-2 and the new card (that I assume would be labeled [interface]-1) is non existent. Any ideas on how to get the new card working correctly?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: if you run:  sudo rfkill list      are there any blocks?
[09:50] <theadmin> ariel1234: No, not the graphical interface, the service. Run "sudo start wicd".
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: do you dual boot the system?
[09:51] <ariel1234> no, it says absolutely no blocks
[09:51] <ariel1234> it is a dual boot system with windows 7
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: in Windows, have you set the adapter to not be able to wake up the systsem in Device Manager
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: also, did you disable power management on the device in Device Manager too
[09:52] <ariel1234> i dont know but it is a desktop computer i am talking about
[09:52] <ariel1234> and because the internet is not working on that i am using my lubuntu laptop to message you
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: fine...did you disable what I said earlier....
[09:53] <ariel1234> disable what? sorry
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: read about 5 lines up...
[09:53] <ariel1234> disable power management in windows
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: i'm not typing all that out agaijn, use your eyes
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: and the wake up
[09:53] <ariel1234> yes i am booting into windows now
[09:54] <demonboy> i have a wireless issue as well lol i have a wmp11 linksys PCI card and ubuntu 12.10... when i run #rfkill list all i get no feed back what so ever, and i have had issues w/ backtrack with this card but #rfkill unblock all generally works because backtrack has a hardware and software block on it for some odd reason
[09:54] <ariel1234> do you want me to follow this ' in Windows, have you set the adapter to not be able to wake up the systsem in Device Manager'
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: yes, it can affect dual boot systems because windows can 'hold' the wireless device. very annoying
[09:54] <ariel1234> ok gosh
[09:55] <ariel1234> would that explain why internet only sometimes worked when i used network manager not wicd
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: backtrack isn't supported here. Try #backtrack-linux
[09:55] <rinzler> any ideas on my dual video card issue?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: I find wicd a bit more flexible with interface names and so forth
[09:55] <demonboy> action i am on 12.10 ubuntu i was mearly refrencing backtrack as i run tht off my usb drive
[09:55] <ariel1234> i understand
[09:55] <ariel1234> and yesterday as i didn't use windows it was until the evening, then linux in the morning
[09:56] <ariel1234> where is device manager in windows
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: can you run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo rfkill list     and pastebin the output please. Thanks
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: right click my computer -> manage
[09:57] <demonboy> no... it has no connection but when i run tht command it sees it and uses the broadcom driver i ran tht to see if it atleast recognized the card
[09:57] <ariel1234> i am doing as you say
[09:58] <ariel1234> i have got computer management open in windows seven, what do i do now
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: device manager is in that list
[10:00] <ariel1234> ive got device manager open and opened the properties window for my TPLINK wireless card
[10:00] <demonboy> @action i will manually type the output of that command
[10:00] <demonboy> in a pastebin link tht is
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: do you not have a USB stick etc?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: right click it and hit properties
[10:01] <Calinou> is it safe to create a new partition table on a medion computer, removing the recovery/OEM partitions if I do not want to dualboot?
[10:01] <ariel1234> what do i do, actionparsnip, i have the properties winow open for it
[10:01] <demonboy> yes i do
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: I suggest you make the DVDs from the restore partition, just in case
[10:01] <Calinou> no blank DVDs around
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: why not copy the text to a file, then transfer the file to a system with web access and pastebin that
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: your call then dude, you sound like you understand what is going to happen
[10:02] <Seveas> Calinou, if you don't want those recovery partitions anymore, you can do whatever you want with them. Including "removing" them by creating a new partition table
[10:02] <Calinou> even if i did a DVD from restore partition, this doesn't mean I'd be able to reinstall windows if everything went wrong
[10:03] <demonboy> because the usb is currently housing the 12.10 instance im currently running on another computer
[10:03] <Calinou> the recovery dvds do not let you do that
[10:03] <Calinou> (no windows install DVD as usual -- cheap computer manufacturers ahoy)
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: thats what they make, instead of cluttering up the system you can make DVDs
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: or take a screenshot with a phone and use that :)
[10:04] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip I have network manager open
[10:04] <demonboy> that works
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: its not network manager
[10:04] <Calinou> how many DVDs are required, usually?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: thinking outside the box gets you ahead in life
[10:04] <had> Hi @all
[10:05] <ariel1234> actionparsnip sorry i mean i have 'TP-LINK Wireless N adapter #3 Properties' open
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: http://www.mochasoft.dk/images/wol2.png
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: it varys, I'd guess at 3
[10:05] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip I have that exact thing open
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: ok untick wake up pc and power management
[10:06] <Calinou> ok. i run into two other issues when using the live cd: it looks like i can't install the proprietary nvidia driver (no option to do so in software sources/additional drivers), and an high-pitched sound constantly plays unless i'm moving mouse
[10:06] <Calinou> (the latter doesn't happen on windows)
[10:07] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip the option ' Allow this device to wake the computer' is grey, and does not  look like it can be selected.
[10:07] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip This is a desktop computer i am talking about.
[10:08] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip should i unselect the option 'allow the computer to turn off this device to save power
[10:08] <had> I have an interesting problem with my wireless keyboard (logitech).
[10:08] <had> Sometimes it seems not to work anymore, but this is only partially. (AudioControll work, Ctrl+Alt+Del  also works)
[10:08] <had> Can somone help me where to look for the problem?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: the fact it is a desktop PC is irrelevant
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: yes disable the ability to turn of the device too.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> had: are the batteries ok?
[10:10] <had> yes
[10:10] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip: The option 'allow this device to wake the computer' is in grey and is not clickable
[10:11] <had> sry i forgot if i unplug and reconnect the usb-token its works again
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> had: if you unload then reload the driver module, does it work without unplugging?
[10:12] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip: Shall i restart the computer now?
[10:12] <had> how can i do that if i have no keyboard plugged in ?
[10:12] <demonboy> @action http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/554253_4883473808815_230895210_n.jpg
[10:12] <ariel1234> shall i go back to ubuntu and will it work?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: yes, try Ubuntu now. Should help
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: patience dude...sheesh
[10:13] <ariel1234> sorry
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | demonboy
[10:13] <wlosio> Hey guys, how to record sound from two sources??  from TS3 (what my friends talking) and Micro?? at this same time?
[10:14] <wlosio> Its possible?!
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> had: make it work, then start investigating
[10:15] <had> you mean get an normal keyboard additionally?
[10:15] <had> how can i find out which driver is for my keyboard?
[10:15] <had> input: Logitech USB Receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb8/8-1/8-1:1.1/input/input7
[10:15] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip; In ubuntu default network manager it used to say ' Device busy' did that mean it was being held by windows
[10:15] <andreas> @wlosio: not sure, but in Win it was possible, if you set the "Stereo Mix" in
[10:15] <had> generic-usb 0003:046D:C529.0006: input,hiddev0,hidraw3: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1/input1
[10:16] <andreas> @wlosio: set the "Stereo Mix" as Input, I mean
[10:16] <demonboy> @action the command #lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4  returns no results
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> had: if you run:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsmod       pastebin the output please
[10:16] <wlosio> andreas, im know dat in Windows XP its possible, but Windows XP is too old... im preffer use Xubuntu :)
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: is the system a laptop?
[10:17] <demonboy> no its a desktop
[10:17] <andreas> yes, me too, but I'm not sure if there's such a feature in Ubuntu as well ... just a thought :)
[10:17] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip: Will this be a perminant fix, the option you told me to change
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: you can use the packages on the install CD to setup the wifi. Those cheap broadcoms are super easy to setup
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: should be, as long as youi don't change it back
[10:17] <ariel1234> good
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: is it ok nnow?
[10:17] <had> ok i have helped me with an onscreen keyboard
[10:18] <demonboy> i have a live usb i dont use cd's
[10:18] <ariel1234> it works now, i dont know whether it will work later
[10:18] <demonboy> and im running it live w/ a 4gb persistance
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: thought so, your junk Windows OS was causing the issue
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: same difference, you can still enable the install media as a package source
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: its why its the first thing I ask
[10:19] <demonboy> how would i do this?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: use software centre, or uncomment the top line in /etc/apt/sources.list that relates to the CD
[10:20] <demonboy> mmk
[10:20] <had> @ActionParsnip: Thx, I will try to find out which driver i need to reload. Than wait till it happens again, reload the driver and see if it helps. And then i will come back here ok?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> had: if you can pastebin the text, I can advise..
[10:21] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip: Now we have found out that it is not a drivers problem, but a windows dualboot problem, shall i remove Wicd
[10:21] <had> pastebin? sry not native en-speaker
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: if wicd is working, why bother
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> had: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:22] <ariel1234> no, default network manager is working, so should i remove wicd
[10:22] <had> THX
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> had: put the text there and hit paste, when the page changes, copy the new URL in the address bar and paste that in here
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: if it's not in use, why not
[10:23] <ariel1234> ok thanks for your help
[10:25] <ssasori> nyone here know an easy to follow tutorial on setting up a webcam on my home pc, to be streaming video, and accesible via webpage???
[10:26] <Calinou> i run into two other issues when using the live cd: it looks like i can't install the proprietary nvidia driver (no option to do so in software sources/additional drivers), and an high-pitched sound constantly plays unless i'm moving mouse (the sound issue doesn't happen on windows)
[10:27] <Guest23590> Help, ubuntu cant find my wireless network card on a macbook from 2008.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> ssasori: http://www.junauza.com/2009/07/turn-ordinary-webcam-into-security-spy.html
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest23590: what wifi chip are you using?
[10:28] <llutz> ssasori: http://www.area536.com/projects/streaming-video/
[10:28] <had> @ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350193/
[10:29] <had> is that ok for u?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> had: run:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsmod      pastebin the output please
[10:29] <Guest23590> ActionParnsip> I dont know. How do i see that_
[10:29] <had> ok
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest23590: run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a      pastebin the output please http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <had> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350196/
[10:32] <beta4> hi
[10:33] <nikolam> Hi,, I have this message when starting Ubuntu-minimal in Virtualbox: error:sparse file not allowed. press any cay to continue.  It is Btrf file system installed.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> had: try:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local     above the 'exit 0' line add:    modprobe -r bluetooth; sleep 2; modprobe bluetooth      save the new file and reboot to test
[10:33] <nikolam> after few seconds system boots
[10:33] <ssasori> ActionParsnip: llutz: Thanks guys!  going to go try it out now.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:35] <beta4> tried to install latest 304.64 nvidia drivers, and now I'm stuck at 1024x768 without graphic acceleration, can someone help me?
[10:35] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, I think so. will re-check
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> had: you can try commands like that in the file, see which it needs. It may need 2 or 3 unloading then reloading
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> beta4: tried:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[10:36] <Mortu> Hi, regardint Empathy Internet messaging .. is there any way that in my Buddy list I can see them by their nicknames and not by their id? // without editing them one by one of course. Thx
[10:36] <had> ActionParsnip: i dont think this will help, because the keyboard is not using bluetooth
[10:37] <beta4> already tried, it generated an xorg.conf with something (previous one was empty), reboot and... stuck at 640x480, even worse. Replaced xorg.conf with an empty one, now I'm back @ 1024x768
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> had: does it use it's own reciever?
[10:38] <beta4> in any case lsmod only shows vesafb, non nvidia module
[10:38] <had> yes but its a wireless 2.4 technologie
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> had: try: rfcomm   then
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> beta4: then roll back to the previous driver if they worked
[10:39] <had> ActionParsnip: rfcomm does not output anything
[10:39] <beta4> previous drivers were open drivers, not good for steam on ubuntu, could only do some 3d desktop effects and nothing more
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> had: its not meant to....think about it
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> had: what I suggested before...then read your own pastebin....
[10:40] <beta4> any idea why nvidia module fails to load? P.S: I've installed the drivers via the ubuntu-x ppa
[10:40] <had> bluetooth             180104  10 rfcomm,bnep
[10:40] <had> you mean that?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> had: yes, its a kernel module, not a command
[10:42] <demonboy> action are you still here?
[10:42] <had> k, but that should i do now? sry if i dont understand
[10:43] <llutz> ActionParsnip: rfcomm is a module AND name of a program
[10:43] <administrator> ni s
[10:43] <llutz> ActionParsnip: rfcomm (1)           - RFCOMM configuration utility
[10:43] <administrator> w s
[10:44] <beta4> may it be related to this error:
[10:44] <beta4> $ sudo insmod nvidia_current
[10:44] <beta4> insmod: can't read 'nvidia_current': No such file or directory
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> llutz: gotcha
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> had: scroll up where I recommended adding to /etc/rc.local
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> had: same line, different module name
[10:47] <had> can u send it again plz, sry i clear it accidentially
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> beta4: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia; apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[10:47] <astropirate> Can I create a swap partition after I have installed my OS?
[10:47] <astropirate> without losign data
[10:47] <demonboy> i went to install ubuntu to my hdd on the desktop so i can y=use my usb as a thumb drive and transfer packages and now im looking at a black screen w/ a bunch of info on it the last line reads: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A
[10:48] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, debsums -acls gives 2 changed packages: binutils and g++ you think that will be enough for installed files verification?
[10:48] <Guest23590> ActionParsnip: This i got> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350233/
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest23590: that's not all of the output of the command
[10:49] <beta4> http://pastebin.com/fnqYQETW
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> beta4: I suggest you contact the PPA maintainers to let them know of the issue
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: then the image is bad. you wil need to redownlod it, then re-MD5 test
[10:51] <had> ActionParsnip: can u plz write me again what i should do (adding to rc.local), because i cleared the window accidentally
[10:51] <beta4> ok, thanks for the help
[10:51] <Guest23590> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350244/
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest23590: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> had: try:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local     above the 'exit 0' line add:    modprobe -r bluetooth; sleep 2; modprobe bluetooth      save the new file and reboot to test
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> had: just change the module name in the line
[10:54] <beta4> wait: something happened: did 'sudo modprobe nvidia_current', logged out, logged back in and now nvidia drivers work!
[10:54] <Guest23590> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[10:54] <had> sry for my english i dont have the statement in my history i accidentally deleted it. Can you resend it?
[10:54] <beta4> full resolution again, glxgears ok
[10:54] <beta4> so it's just that the module does not get loaded at startup
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> had: which statement? I just gave you the instruction again?
[10:55] <beta4> is there a file or something to tell the kernel the list of modules to load @ boot?
[10:55] <had> oh sry i did not see it
[10:55] <had> thx
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> beta4: could try putting the module name in /etc/modules
[10:55] <had> THX a lot for ur help
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> had: you'll be messing with that til it works well.
[10:56] <beta4> tryin' to reboot
[10:56] <hsnmck> hello, I need a tool to do all sort of conversions in the command line, like from ascii to binary, from decimal to binary etc.. and vise-versa. any idea? thanks
[10:57] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, would not that mean something just changed installed package after install? and reinstalling it restores original package contents (is not also package contents default setting for a package?) I have a bunch packages on another machine listed with debsum -acls and I don't believe they are all broken)
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: is this in the minimal ISO?
[10:57] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, it is minimal and already installed in VBox with addons
[10:58] <nikolam> And another machine is alternate install on bare metal
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: i see
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: is it fully updated
[10:58] <nikolam> yup. message in vbox machine appears , stays and boot then ok
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> hsnmck: run: ascii2binary    is anything output?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[10:59] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, will try
[11:00] <hsnmck> ActionParsnip, it says in the man page that it Convert ASCII numbers to binary.. so it's only ascii numbers and not ascii letters :(
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: it always helps with weird video chips
[11:01] <hsnmck> ActionParsnip, oh binary2ascii does that. thanks :)
[11:01] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, it is virtualbox with vbox addons installed
[11:01] <beta4> rebooted, drivers 'almost' work, thanks for the tip on /etc/modules, always forget which file does what
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> hsnmck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735140   some bash commands there, surprised you don't just use web stuff to do it
[11:02] <beta4> last issue, brightness is stuck at 100%, can't reduce it
[11:02] <bekks> nikolam: You may ask in #vbox too.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> beta4: does the system have a make and model?
[11:02] <Calinou> beta4: echo "0" > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:02] <almoxarife> i have a file containing for each line a web-address, i want to add to each line prior to the web-address '127.0.0.1' followed by a fewspaces, how can i do this?
[11:03] <beta4> it's an old  macbookpro
[11:03] <Calinou> (you need admin/root to do so, might want to put that in a script, then run it with sudo)
[11:03] <nikolam> bekks, yes, they helped me removing apready-installed ubuntu-provided vbox addons that instaleld automatically during install
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> beta4: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo dmidecode -t 1
[11:03] <Calinou> or, you can do this: echo 0 > ~/brightness && cp ~/brightness /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: or:  echo "0" | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: much cleaner
[11:04] <beta4> http://pastebin.com/tqVatBRB
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> beta4: so it's a MacBookPro4,1
[11:05] <beta4> echo "1" > /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness
[11:05] <beta4> works
[11:06] <beta4> so it's not a kernel issue
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> beta4: bit more detailed than 'old macbook' wouldn't you say?
[11:06] <beta4> sorry, had to be more detailed, you're right
[11:07] <beta4> anyway I think it's funny, changing the drivers from the open to the closed nvidia ones broke the userspace brightness control
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> beta4: does the echo command make everything ok?
[11:07] <beta4> yes, all ok
[11:08] <Calinou> (irrelevant to discussion) back to my medion problems -- if I just want to install ubuntu on the whole drive, will the computer still boot? not really caring about warranty or windows...
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> beta4: then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local    above the 'exit 0' line, add: echo "1" > /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness
[11:08] <beta4> I can live with a shell script to set the brightness in the absence of a better way
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: yes, the installer will add grub to the MBR
[11:08] <Calinou> beta4: you can edit /etc/rc.local, yes
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: why would it not boot?
[11:08] <Calinou> ActionParsnip: since this is an UEFI computer should I make an UEFI partition? (i'm going to partition by hand to have separate /home)
[11:08] <beta4> ok, guess I'll do that
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !uefi
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !efi
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: i've not used uefi etc
[11:09] <Calinou> the wiki has some info about uefi
[11:09] <beta4> thanks all, finally I'm back with decently fast video drivers, after ~6 months with open ones
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting   may help
[11:10] <jeffroberts> That last Ubuntu update messed up all my stuff. Made everything default settings.
[11:11] <bekks> jeffroberts: Which is quite impossible...
[11:11] <Calinou> ActionParsnip: is it possible to create a GPT partition table on a disk that is currently using msdos partition table?
[11:11] <jeffroberts> bekks, Maybe improbable, because it did.
[11:11] <mohanmcgeek> guys, I need a good text-to-speech reader.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> mohanmcgeek: gnome-orca
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: not sure, sorry
[11:12] <bekks> jeffroberts: So whats "the last update" and whats "all my stuff"?
[11:12] <Calinou> ok. thanks for answering
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: maybe others can help
[11:13] <jeffroberts> bekks, Startup programs, wallpaper, repositories, docked icons, etc.
[11:13] <jeffroberts> bekks, Even terminal changed the profile colors.
[11:13] <mohanmcgeek> ActionParsnip: No, not a screen reader. but a software that will take a text input and read it out.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> mohanmcgeek: espeak does that too
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> mohanmcgeek: or try festival
[11:17] <dingdangdong> !log
[11:18] <beta4> bye
[11:18] <Data-Base> hi
[11:21] <dingdangdong> what happened to " http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ " ?
[11:23] <dingdangdong>  can't open http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> dingdangdong: try http://www.irclog.org/network.php?net=freenode
[11:26] <Star_Light> hello is there any room about TCP/IP or Socket Networking? Thank in advance.
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Star_Light: ##networking
[11:26] <Star_Light> thank you.
[11:28] <Cache_Money> Has anyone received a private message from the user Chaterz?
[11:31] <dingdangdong> ActionParsnip: looking for the logs for #ubuntu-ir :-/
[11:32] <eltigre> hey, I know multimedia isn't exactly ubuntu's strengths, but can somebody help me fix this damn "clicking sound" bug? All the old fixes don't work anymore in 12.10
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> dingdangdong: could always ask in #freenode :)
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: multimedia is flawless here
[11:33] <eltigre> good for you
[11:33] <k1l> eltigre: what is the clickingsound bug?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: tried disabling power saving on your sound module?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: where do you get that multimedia isn't one of ubuntu's strengths?
[11:34] <eltigre> I've got no idea what power saving on my sound module is supposed to mean or how to deactivate it
[11:34] <hadAch> ActionParsnip: Hi du you remember me (wireless keyboard). added the line in the rc.local. the keyboard still has the same behavior
[11:34] <eltigre> when I watch videos on youtube it clicks all the time
[11:34] <eltigre> mplayer no such problem
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: tried:    echo "options snd-hda-intel power_save=0 power_save_controller=N" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: reboot to test#
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: then you'll need to try a different module. Are there any bugs reported?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: have you tried different browsers?
[11:36] <hadAch> ActionParsnip: whats more strange is that even the onscreen keyboard does not work , and even stranger in the sidebar i can open programs wich are shown there, but not the "Dash Home"
[11:37] <eltigre> hm one version of chrome has the same problem, chromium doesn't ....
[11:37] <hadAch> i think its somehow connected to flash movies in the browser because it only occurs when i am look some flash movie
[11:37] <hadAch> chrome/firefox is the same
[11:37] <smj> I don't have any Internet when chrooting to my Ubuntu
[11:38] <smj> though ifconfig shows there's an IP
[11:38] <Jordan_U> smj: cp /etc/resolv.conf /chroot/etc/resolve.conf
[11:39] <smj> Jordan_U: did that
[11:39] <mohanmcgeek> i've installed espeak and few mbrola voices.. but none are good enough.. Maybe I'm not trying the right source.. Where  can I get good mbrola voices?
[11:39] <smj> no, wait let me try again
[11:40] <hadAch> ActionParsnip: "hadAch: then you'll need to try a different module. Are there any bugs reported?" i dont think so
[11:41] <dingdangdong> ActionParsnip: ah sure, thanks :)
[11:42] <smj> okay it works now
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: I suggest you report a bug then
[11:43] <hadAch> for what?
[11:43] <hadAch> for the kernel module?
[11:44] <hadAch> i dont think its a kernel module because i used archlinux for a long time and other linux distrubution and never hab a problem
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: then I'd report a bug against udev
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: the bug guys will move it if necessary, state that arch ran it ok (and what version of Arch)
[11:47] <hadAch> ok
[11:48] <hadAch> can i look for additional information in some logs
[11:48] <hadAch> or enable additional logging for udev
[11:48] <hadAch> ?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: could run:  dmesg | less     to see what happens as the OS boots
[11:59] <anton77> hello
[12:00] <anton77> how to change user name in terminal?
[12:00] <jrib> anton77: it's easier if you just create a new user with the name you want
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> lots easier
[12:01] <JMS32>  Hello! My videocard working only after @sudo modprobe -v bttv card=177  tuner=-1 autoload=0@ How to make it works after every boot?
[12:01] <anton77> thx ant how to delete first name
[12:01] <anton77> ?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228239/Child-4-suffering-cerebral-palsy-given-500-stranger-stricken-chain-Comet-refuses-gift-card-iPad.html
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> oops
[12:01] <jrib> anton77: make sure you give the new user the abilitiy to sudo before you delete the old on
[12:01] <jrib> e
[12:02] <anton77> how to do it
[12:02] <MaximB> any idea when thew newest Nvidia drivers will be officially updated on Ubuntu ?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821685
[12:02] <jrib> anton77: as your old user, do: sudo adduser NEWUSERNAME sudo
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/170244/usermod-change-the-username
[12:03] <anton77> create administrator user?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username
[12:03] <JMS32> How to make modprobe on every boot?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: add the module name in /etc/modules
[12:03] <anton77> thx i am trying
[12:04] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, and how to put modprobe parameters?
[12:04] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, this module exist. I'm need parameters for it
[12:06] <anton77> it is strange why when i write certain commands it takes alot of time before it executes?
[12:06] <gordonjcp> anton77: depends what the command does
[12:07] <gordonjcp> it probably executes straight away but takes a certain amount of time to complete
[12:07] <gordonjcp> can you pastebin some examples?
[12:07] <gordonjcp> incidentally if you say "time <command>" it will measure how long it takes to do the command
[12:08] <anton77> the example you just wrote
[12:08] <anton77> edit also
[12:09] <anton77> some never execute for example edit /etc/default/locale
[12:10] <iceroot> anton77: because the EDITOR is not set?
[12:10] <anton77> sec i try
[12:11] <anton77> do you mean not installed?
[12:13] <bonhoeffer> how do i figure out my hardware? (ram, processor speed, etc?)
[12:14] <serban> hi
[12:14] <defekt> bonhoeffer: lshw
[12:14] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[12:15] <defekt> and cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:16] <MasterOfDisaster> Hi, I'd like to query another dns server for a certain domain, say .local. I'd like to leave my dns client config intact as much as possible
[12:16] <bonhoeffer> defekt, perfect, exactly what i needed
[12:17] <MasterOfDisaster> can I do this with just resolv.conf, or do I need a full fledged local dns server for that?
[12:17] <defekt> MasterOfDisaster: edit /etc/hosts file
[12:18] <MasterOfDisaster> defekt: the dns server that has the info I want is reachable on my local network, I don't want to keep an /etc/hosts on multiple nodes
[12:19] <defekt> in that case I would suggest running another ns server
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> bonhoeffer: hwinfo
[12:20] <defekt> if you want to keep it centralized
[12:21] <MasterOfDisaster> defekt: thought so, thanks
[12:22] <defekt> nps :)
[12:28] <anton77> how to show all users ?
[12:28] <girlz_baby> helo
[12:32] <thelinux> Anyone here is in Steam beta?
[12:34] <linux|newb> hmm
[12:34] <linux|newb> why might /etc/bashrc be empty?
[12:42] <milenaa> hola
[12:43] <Thepenguin9> Does anyone here mine Bitcoins on Quetzal
[12:45] <muhfiasbin> hallo..
[12:45] <muhfiasbin> is there any particular topic today?
[12:45] <linux|newb> ./topic
[12:46] <muhfiasbin> ./topic
[12:46] <Thepenguin9> without period
[12:48] <noobunlimited>  #selenium
[12:48] <noobunlimited> ups
[12:48] <noobunlimited> sorry
[12:53] <thelinux> ./topic
[12:53] <thelinux> Damn you guys.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: do you have a support question?
[12:54] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: No, I'm here too to help someone.
[12:56] <thelinux> Anyone is using 13.04 here daily builds?
[12:57] <llutz> !13.04 | thelinux
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: I am
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: hence I am in +1 ;)
[12:58] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Nice ;)
[12:58] <gaetano> #geany
[12:59] <gaetano> #blender
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> gaetano: try:   /join #blender
[12:59] <llutz> gaetano: /join #channelname
[13:00] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[13:02] <lfiasid> quit
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> lfiasid: prefix with a slash ;)
[13:03] <muhfiasbin> I am using ubuntu 12.04 and after update my ubuntu, I can't tether from my android phone again..
[13:04] <jon__> ncik skpl113
[13:04] <linux|newb> hmm, I'm trying to update PS1 in /etc/bash.bashrc - I update the file and changes save but I don't see a difference in the prompt....
[13:04] <bekks> linux|newb: Because you have to source that file.
[13:04] <bekks> linux|newb: ". /etc/bash.bashrc"
[13:04] <AndroUser-thanig> how a convert a command into service
[13:05] <linux|newb> bekks: cheers
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: you could mess with rc levels, making a file to start/stop/status it
[13:06] <linux|newb> bekks: done it and it's working but  so I know for future
[13:06] <linux|newb> bekks: ...define 'source' for me pleace
[13:06] <linux|newb> please*
[13:07] <llutz> linux|newb: type " help source" into a terminal
[13:08] <linux|newb> ...ah I see so really, I need to update $HOME/.BASHRC
[13:08] <bekks> linux|newb: No. $HOME/.bashrc
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> linux|newb: watch the case, Linux is very case sensitive
[13:09] <linux|newb> bekks: ActionParsnip: typo on my part - realised. thanks :)
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[13:09] <AndroUser-thanig> [18:36] (ActionParsnip)  then how can i stop the command when processing.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: here is an example: http://www.dropboxwiki.com/Ubuntu_Startup
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: drop your customized file into /etc/init.d/    then run: update-rc.d dropbox defaults
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: obviously change all the stuff to what you want to run and so forth
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: you can then use the 'service' command like you do the others to start/stop etc the sevrice
[13:13] <AndroUser-thanig> [18:41] (ActionParsnip) thankyou sir.
[13:13] <ThinkT510> !tab | AndroUser-thanig
[13:14] <decci> I need  server monitoring script to get uptime, load & memory and ping check and display with check every 5 mins.  Multiple linux instances with php etc enabled to montior  A good example of what we want: http://status.nodedeploy.com
[13:14] <decci> Any idea if similar open source tool exists
[13:14] <bekks> decci: Yes. It is called "nagios".
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> decci: could use ssh and run one time commands
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> decci: or you could use snmp: http://www.debianadmin.com/linux-snmp-oids-for-cpumemory-and-disk-statistics.html
[13:22] <LiquidDemocracy> I just bought the Logitec Wireless Solar Keyboard k750 but it does not work. No key works. What could I try to get it to work?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: how does it connect to the system?
[13:25] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, What exactly to you mean?
[13:25] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, USB if you mean that.
[13:25] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, more exact USB 2.0
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: yes, exactly that
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: is it charged?
[13:26] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, yes.
[13:27] <OpenSorce> Anyone from England?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: if you unplug it, then wait a few seconds then shove it back in, does it work?
[13:27] <erich> fkg
[13:28] <erich> ce qualcuno
[13:28] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, unfortunately not.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: I am
[13:28] <OpenSorce> My boyfriend asked for bangers and mash.... did he not mean for breakfast?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: thats offtopic here
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: are there any bugs reported?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: is there an on/off switch on the keyboard?
[13:29] <OpenSorce> Indeed, my apologies...
[13:29] <linux|newb> exit
[13:29] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, the keyboard is powered on and I did not find any bug reports so far.
[13:29] <linux|newb> oops
[13:30] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, http://askubuntu.com/questions/25877/will-a-logitech-k750-keyboard-work
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: top right corner, there appears to be a switch, is it on?
[13:30] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, yes it it.
[13:31] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, is.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: oh does it have a USB dongle to make it wireless?
[13:31] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, yes it does have one.
[13:32] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, which is also used by the Logitec mouse, which works perfectly.
[13:32] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, of topic though it may be, I won't ask again... a single word answer: Bangers and Mash. Breakfast or not?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: is there a sync button that needs pressing>
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: its mashed potatoes and sausages.....I'd say not but if you want it then why not :)
[13:33] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, dammit.... he'll awake soon. Thanks :-)
[13:34] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, there is no sync button.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: if you unsync the most, can you sync the keyboard?
[13:34] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, what does that mean?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: i'd check the chargedness of the keyboard too
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: unlink the mouse, then try the keyboard
[13:35] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, it is charged, double, tripple checked.
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: I'd check for bugs then, or report one. Logitech hate Linux and refuse to support it
[13:38] <dalton2345> hello everyone, is there a way to set the priority of a program?
[13:39] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, you're right this isn't breakfast at all....
[13:39] <Seveas> dalton2345, yes, with the nice and renice commands
[13:40] <clubberx> Hi, After a fresh install of 12.10 webapps don't appear to be working in chromium only in firefox - is this supposed to be the case?
[13:40] <dalton2345> seveas, i'm looking at changing it before it start
[13:41] <Seveas> dalton2345, you do that by using 'nice $priority $progname'
[13:42] <dalton2345> seveas, i did nice -20 program didnt do a thing
[13:43] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, do I have to change anything in the Kubuntu configuration? The wireless keyboard is not the same one I did the upgrade to 12.10 with.
[13:43] <Seveas> dalton2345, looks like cpu scheduling isn't your problem then :)
[13:43] <dalton2345> i can change while it run but not before it starts
[13:45] <DarkSim> Maybe not a real tech question, more a trivial one. To achieve the flashiest and most visually appealing desktop, how do I do this? :)
[13:45] <doomlord> is the geforce gt640 officially broken for compiz (i get a 2d desktop and gl works, but no compiz)
[13:45] <simple_one> my mouse cursor lags  iam using 12.10
[13:45] <war59312> rm: cannot remove `test.mkv': Text file busy
[13:46] <war59312> rm: cannot remove `test.mkv': Text file busy
[13:46] <war59312> any ideas?
[13:46] <Cong> did you try restarting the comp?
[13:46] <unrar> wohai
[13:46] <war59312> fuser shows nothing
[13:46] <war59312> yes restarting does not work
[13:47] <war59312> unmounting does not work either
[13:47] <Cong> text file busy?
[13:47] <war59312> means file is open somewere
[13:47] <clubberx> does anyone know about webapps and chromium in 12.10?
[13:48] <Cong> war59312, use -f
[13:49] <war59312> with ?
[13:49] <war59312> i can copy the file with cp -f but thats it..
[13:49] <llutz> war59312: "sudo lsof |grep test.mkv"
[13:49] <anhday> hi people, do i need acpi-support if i'm not using laptop?
[13:50] <war59312> llutz when I run that I get:
[13:50] <war59312> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/rob/gvfs
[13:50] <war59312>       Output information may be incomplete.
[13:50] <Cong> so the -f switch in rm is for non-exists files and for it to never prompt
[13:51] <llutz> war59312: file is on cifs-share?
[13:51] <Cong> why is it named force?
[13:51] <war59312> Cong still get Text file busy when using rm -f
[13:52] <war59312> llutz yes, cifs share
[13:53] <Cong> war59312, how big is it?
[13:54] <war59312> llutz its only 4 files that are giving this error.. the other 47 files deleted just fine
[13:54] <war59312> cong it is is 1.1 GB (1,088,289,388 bytes)
[13:55] <Cong> war59312, start killing some program
[13:55] <Cong> -'s
[13:55] <llutz> Cong: nonsense
[13:55] <Cong> it's easy kill -kill <prg>
[13:55] <llutz> war59312: some googling shows it a common smb-problem, no real workaround besides renaming the file and removing it then
[13:55] <war59312> cant rename it either :(
[13:56] <war59312> llutz i killed smb but no luck either
[13:56] <llutz> Cong: what process do you want to kill if you don't even know what process holds it open?
[13:56] <Cong> llutz, try them all
[13:56] <llutz> Cong: nonsense
[13:56] <Cong> llutz, the non-important ones first
[13:57] <auronandace> Cong: don't offer bad advise
[13:57] <war59312> cong im not doign that
[13:57] <rahsputin> Hi
[13:58] <war59312> ok maybe if i can ssh into the drive itself.. its running linx too then maybe it can delete it..
[13:58] <llutz> war59312: are you sure the file isn't in use on the server?
[13:58] <rahsputin> i have a strange nVidia card, so when i try to install Ubuntu, i always get this fuzzied up screen, in other words no X ....
[13:59] <rahsputin> at some point (shutting down) i could read some output ... nouvo something I/O error  .....
[14:00] <war59312> llutz 100% sure.. I just figured it out
[14:00] <rahsputin> i couldn't even change to tty1 ...
[14:00] <war59312> llutz files are gone.. was able to ssh into box and login as root and deleted them
[14:00] <rahsputin> is there a way to pass X a different driver to use ?
[14:00] <war59312> just weird i could not delete them via sudo on server box
[14:01] <llutz> war59312: sounds like cifs-issues, but i don't know. i usually don't have to deal with cifs . glad you solved it
[14:01] <Hemza> Ubuntu 10.04. When I try to reboot an error message  (/boot , /sbin and other not found)How to fix/recovery /boot directory and all related files ?
[14:02] <war59312> llutz is there a better way to mount a share and still have read and write permissions and use NFS with it ?
[14:03] <llutz> war59312: windows-share? idk, sorry, i prefer nfs
[14:04] <war59312> llutz yea I mean nfs on my ubuntu box itself
[14:05] <war59312> llutz the hardware i am accessing btw is this drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148661
[14:05] <llutz> war59312: nfs isn't too hard, you just  should use same usernames/uids on all machines to make it easier
[14:05] <war59312> llutz i am.. and it did NOT work..
[14:06] <war59312> llutz probally has to do with the hacky nature of running linux on the drive.. its more than a hack then anything.. but i do have root access
[14:06] <frakk> Hi. So I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my MacBook Air 4,2 (the 2011 edition). According to the help.ubuntu.com-page, everything (except Thunderbolt) should work out of the box, but I can't get wireless to work. I did the installation without internet connection. I do not have access to wired internet for the next weeks, but there is a wireless network (the same I'm connected to know via OS X). When I try to connect to a wireless network, Ubunt
[14:06] <war59312> llutz and when i say did not work.. i could not get write access no matter what I tried.
[14:06] <llutz> war59312: could be, i never had that problems but all i use are "normal PCs" running debian and some ARM-boards
[14:07] <war59312> llutz no problem.. its all good... been working fine hence this:
[14:07] <war59312> 09:07:09 up 173 days, 11:29,  1 user,  load average: 0.12, 0.12, 0.09
[14:08] <llutz> war59312: 173 days, so no security updates at all? :)
[14:08] <frakk> Is it for example possible to add the broadcom-sta module manually by first downloading it to OS X and then use the memory stick to install it in Ubuntu?
[14:09] <Cong> frakk, possible.
[14:09] <jrib> frakk: sure, you can grab packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com .  But keep in mind you must make sure to grab all the dependencies as well
[14:10] <g0dfrey> "gcc -lnetfilter_queue -c a.c" success and when "gcc -lnetfilter_queue -o a a.o" it will tell that functions in libnetfilter_queue undefinde
[14:10] <g0dfrey> i install libnetfilter-queue-dev and it dependices
[14:10] <g0dfrey> the progam can be compiled but can't be linked
[14:10] <war59312> llutz all security updates installed via http://www.ksplice.com/ :)
[14:10] <g0dfrey> can anyone help ?
[14:11] <Cong> frakk, everything you need is already on teh live disc.
[14:11] <g0dfrey> the problem exists in 12.04 and no problem with 10.04
[14:12] <g0dfrey> can anyone help?
[14:14] <kae_> upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday. transmission-gtk won't start up now. fails with segmentation fault. what do I do next to find the cause?
[14:14] <frakk> Cong, jrib: ok, it doesn't seem like broadcom-sta have any dependencies (ref. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/broadcom-sta-common). So I should be able to just download the package and double click on it from Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:14] <k1l> kae_: start it from a terminal and take a look at the output
[14:15] <jrib> kae_: I'd start by clearing out any settings you have and seeing if it persists
[14:15] <frakk> Cong: well, for some reason it doesn't work :/
[14:16] <kae_> k1l, when I start from terminal, it merely says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[14:16] <g0dfrey>  i install libnetfilter-queue-dev and i can compile my programs but cannot link it ...so what's maybe the problem?
[14:16] <frakk> Cong: and help.ubuntu.com suggest installing the broadcom-sta package, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Wireless
[14:16] <jrib> frakk: I'd probably grab broadcom-sta-dkms too
[14:16] <kae_> jrib, not sure how to clear transmission settings without destroying my whole profile
[14:17] <jrib> kae_: create a new user
[14:17] <frakk> jrib: thanks, just noticed that myself :P
[14:17] <gus_>  /ignore -channels #mwsf
[14:18] <frakk> jrib: should I try to mimmick the commands listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Wireless ?
[14:19] <frakk> jrib: Seems like I should be able to execute all of them except 'sudo apt-get update'
[14:20] <jrib> frakk: you'll have to use dpkg or gdebi to install the .deb's you download
[14:20] <simple_one> the mouse pointer lags on 12.10 any ideas?
[14:20] <PudgePacket> Hi :) I just installed ubuntu through wubi, but it doesn't recognise my wireless dongle. It came with some windows driver installers but ubuntu can't read the windows .exe files, any ideas ?
[14:21] <Cong> frakk, this is how I did installed it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:21] <klync> when I watch videos on youtube they have a blue tint, but I know it's not my monitor, I think it's the codec or sth. anyone see this before? any ideas?
[14:21] <simple_one> PudgePacker: you can open the .exe files via wine
[14:22] <simple_one> klync:try to disable the hardwarre acceleration
[14:23] <simple_one> klync:right-click on the video then settings uncheck the box enable hardware acceleration
[14:23] <PudgePacket> simple_one But ubuntu has no internet connection, so i can't get wine
[14:23] <klync> will do, thanks simple_one
[14:23] <simple_one> PudgePacket:you dont have a cable for the internet?
[14:24] <PudgePacket> simple_one no, i have windows on this computer and i just installed ubuntu onto it, is there any way i can get wine into ubuntu through windows ?
[14:24] <relol> hi
[14:25] <cfhowlett> relol: greetings
[14:25] <relol> i have a problem with Canon MP250 printer
[14:25] <relol> print jobs won't get past processing stage
[14:25] <frakk> Cong: thanks, that seems like a better idea. Plan: 1) download https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/5.100.82.112-4 2) purge bcmwl-kernel-source 3) install broadcom-sta package - does this make sense?
[14:25] <relol> Local printer (USB)
[14:25] <jlangvand> PudgePacket: try to extract the exes with gunzip
[14:26] <jlangvand> PudgePacket: in terminal, type gunzip file.exe
[14:26] <relol> Past versions of Ubuntu 9.10 i had to install drivers from Canon support
[14:26] <PudgePacket> jlangvand does gunzip come with default ubuntu ?
[14:26] <jlangvand> PudgePacket: then use the inf-file with ndiswrapper to install the windows drivers
[14:26] <jlangvand> yes, i think so
[14:26] <relol> but on ubuntu 12 it seems that it i isn't necesary
[14:27] <Cong> frakk, don't know. I keep b43 driver files which I would if anything happened (one day) to the current one in /lib/firmware and that's how I install it.
[14:27] <PudgePacket> ok thanks jlangvand, i'll go try that
[14:28] <relol> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:michael-gruz/canon-trunk
[14:28] <relol> Okay
[14:29] <relol> My laptop cannot recover after Suspension
[14:30] <relol> Keyboard leds flased like Kernel Panic error
[14:31] <relol> But screen didn't display anything
[14:32] <toxa> Good day :) tell me, there is a section in the 36 gigs in NTFS. I want to format this partition and merge with the root. how can I do?
[14:33] <compdoc> toxa, best bet would be to boot gparted, but it can be a dangerous operation
[14:33] <cfhowlett> toxa: boot ubuntu cdrom/usb
[14:39] <toxa> Thank you. gparted helped
[14:48] <frakk> Cong: Hmm, how would you install it from /lib/firmware (the b43 driver files, that is)
[14:48] <lauxley> Hi, i have an apache server that can't access some files ONLY when im not logged in (physically or via ssh), any idea ?
[14:49] <lauxley> could it be because my home folder is encrypted ?
[14:50] <NET||abuse> Hi folks, whats the best way to setup a post upload hook for an sfp-only user?
[14:50] <NET||abuse> i'm hoping i don't have to install additional software beyond opensshd
[14:51] <Yakut> privet
[14:51] <dr_willis> a post upload hook does what?
[14:51] <Yakut> hello
[14:51] <Yakut> I found a bug
[14:51] <Yakut> in Ubuntu 12.10
[14:51] <Yakut> D:
[14:51] <dr_willis> !bug
[14:54] <Yakut> brain xplode
[14:54] <Yakut> D:
[14:54] <Yakut> when I move icons on left bar, my icon have white stripes
[14:54] <Yakut> before upgrading Ubuntu 12.04 > Ubuntu 12.10 all worked nice
[14:56] <Yakut> hello
[14:56] <Yakut> uhhh
[14:56] <Yakut> auuuuuuuuuh
[14:57] <Yakut> russkie est?
[14:59] <Cong> frakk, read this hopefully it will answer all I know https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:59] <Yakut> anybody can gelp me?
[15:00] <escott> Yakut, what is the question
[15:00] <shkelzen> hi
[15:00] <shkelzen> I have a question regarding Ubuntu on VmWare
[15:01] <shkelzen> anybody can help?
[15:01] <Yakut> I move icons from left bar
[15:01] <dr_willis> test issues with a newly made user. see if the problem affects every user.
[15:01] <Yakut> and on icon white stripes attack
[15:01] <compdoc> shkelzen, I run it on kvm, so maybe
[15:01] <Yakut> it looks like a bug
[15:01] <Yakut> but I need online help
[15:01] <Yakut> ubuntu 12.10 release
[15:02] <dr_willis> Yakut: sounds rather trivial bug. could be a driver issue. or a user setting issue.
[15:02] <dr_willis> test issues with a newly made user. see if the problem affects every user.
[15:02] <Yakut> dr_willis, I upgraded 12.04 > 12.10
[15:02] <Yakut> it worked nice
[15:03] <dr_willis> its possible some old setting us causeing the issue.
[15:03] <Yakut> rebooting doesnt help
[15:03] <Yakut> wait me
[15:03] <Yakut> I will run google translate
[15:03] <Yakut> :D
[15:03] <dr_willis> make a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.
[15:03] <Yakut> dr_willis> make a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.
[15:03] <Yakut> * Jguy (~Jman@c-71-201-148-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net) çàøåë íà êàíàë #ubun
[15:03] <Yakut> to me?
[15:04] <dr_willis> !ru
[15:04] <Jguy> Hello to you too
[15:05] <Yakut> ïîñëå îáíîâëåíèÿ äî 12.10 ñ 12.04 ïîÿâèëèñü ïîëîñêè íà èêîíêàõ, ïðè ïåðåòàñêèâàíèè ñ ëåâîãî áàðà. Äî îáíîâëåíèÿ âñå áûëî çàìå÷àòåëüíî, êàêèå ñîâåòû?
[15:05] <Yakut> Yakut> est kto?
[15:05] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[15:05] <dr_willis> Yakut: that was totally unreadable to me
[15:05] <Yakut> after upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04 stripes appeared on icons, dragging from the left bar. Before the upgrade everything was fine, what advice?
[15:06] <dr_willis> make a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.
[15:06] <lauxley> if my home is encrypted, is it gonna be decrypted only if i am logged in ?? or any fs operation with the right permissions would work ???
[15:06] <Yakut> ok
[15:06] <dr_willis> is my advice........ Yakut
[15:07] <escott> lauxley, only when logged in
[15:08] <Yakut> came as a guest. The strips have not disappeared
[15:08] <Yakut> right speaker
[15:09] <Yakut> also on my laptop is not working right speaker
[15:10] <dr_willis> possible driver issue with  the video driver. you may want to check askubuntu.com and the forums search features to see if otherrs have reported the same thing.
[15:10] <dr_willis> testing with  a 12.10 dvd would also be good info
[15:11] <Yakut> dr_willis, who are you?
[15:11]  * dr_willis is me
[15:12] <lauxley> escott: thx
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> bit of a deep question
[15:13] <Bims> hi
[15:13] <dr_willis> bbl.
[15:13] <Bims> just upgraded to 12.10. now i cannot su to root. what can i do?
[15:13] <jrib> !sudo | Bims
[15:13] <Yakut> em
[15:14] <Bims> no, sudo is for single commands
[15:14] <Yakut> can I downgrade Ubuntu to 12.04 without full Ubuntu 12.04 downloading?
[15:14] <Bims> i want a shell as root
[15:14] <Yakut> from 12.10
[15:14] <jrib> Bims: if you bothered to read the information sent to you, you would see you get a shell by doing « sudo -i »
[15:14] <Bims> jrib: and why does su not work any longer?
[15:14] <escott> Bims, sudo -i
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:15] <escott> Bims, su never worked
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: the only way to downgrade to a previous release is a clean install
[15:15] <jrib> Bims: you can only su to root if you've set a root password.  One isn't set by default.  It's also not necessary and not recommended
[15:15] <Bims> ah, okay
[15:15] <Yakut> =(
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Bims: it does, you just can't su to root
[15:15] <PudgePacket> I'm having a crack at using ndiswrapper to get my wireless usb dongle going, i ran ndiswrapper on the driver files, but it said the driver is invalid, any ideas?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Bims: if you have 2 users on the system, you can su between without issue
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Bims: sudo -i    is also good because it uses your user's environment, not root's
[15:19] <PudgePacket> I have ubuntu installd with wubi alongside windows, is there anyway i can tell ubuntu to use my windows drivers for my usb wireless?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: if you can find the files, yes
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: what wifi chip are you using?
[15:22] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, I'm trying to open ubutnu tweak but it opens and closes ! what is the problem ?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: try running it from a terminal
[15:22] <dr_willis> Safa_[A_boy]: run it from a terminal.. look for error messages
[15:22] <Yakut> ïîñëå èíâàëèäíîñòè ñåìåííîãî íàñîñà óåõàâøèé ìàêóøêà êðàñíûé ïëàêàòü çàâòðà áûñòðî íåëåïûé ñìàéëèê ñåðîãî ãîíÿòüñÿ. Ïðè òîðìîæåíèè ÿâíîé ñðûâà íå õîòåëîñü êàòàñòðîôè÷åñêè ñìåÿòüñÿ îò ïîïðûãóí÷èêà ùóêè. ×òî çà áðåêåòû?
[15:23] <Yakut> disability after top seed pump gone red cry tomorrow quickly ironic smiley gray race. When braking apparent catastrophic failure did not want to laugh with skipjack pike. That for braces?
[15:23] <KsM> yes.
[15:23] <PudgePacket> ActionParsnip, it's a usb plug and play sort of thing, a dongle. net8192 if that means anything, all the driver files are installed in windows and i have access to windows from ubuntu
[15:24] <dr_willis> Yakut:  that was unreadable... and seemed to be unrelated to ubuntu
[15:24] <Yakut> just help me
[15:24] <Yakut> plz
[15:24] <Yakut> (
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: if you run:  lsusb    what is the 8 charcter hex ID for the device?
[15:24] <escott> PudgePacket, you should use the linux drivers (net8192) over any ndiswrapper approach
[15:24] <dr_willis> Yakut: with?
[15:25] <Yakut> with stripes
[15:25] <Yakut> and sounds
[15:25] <Yakut> and sound
[15:25] <Seveas> !ru | Yakut
[15:25] <Safa_[A_boy]> what to type ? :p I've tried (ubuntutweak) and (ubuntu tweak) and they didnt work :(
[15:25] <Yakut> these channel doesnt work
[15:25] <Yakut> I cant tell with them
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: ubuntu-tweak
[15:25] <Seveas> Yakut, set your IRC client to use utf-8 as encoding
[15:25] <dr_willis> you checked the forums and askununtu.com yet  Yakut ?
[15:26] <Yakut> no
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:26] <Safa_[A_boy]> output: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:26] <dr_willis> you tested with a 12.10 live dvd yet,?
[15:26] <PudgePacket> 0bda:8178 ActionParsnip
[15:26] <Yakut> asd
[15:27] <PudgePacket> escott, linux version is unavailable
[15:27] <Chotaz`x> I have ubuntu 12.10 and just created a NTFS Partition on my second hdd to install win8 in
[15:27] <dr_willis> Safa_[A_boy]: its crashing badly. see if there is a newer versiin
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[15:27] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:27] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
 помогите с багом
[15:27] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
 D:
[15:27] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[15:27] <FloodBot1> Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:28] <Safa_[A_boy]> its the newest !
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: seems to use the rtl8192cu driver
[15:28] <dr_willis> Safa_[A_boy]: id check the ppa and reinstall it for srarters
[15:28] <Yakut> vlad_starkov, privet
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: can you give the output of the command please
[15:28] <Safa_[A_boy]> precise
[15:28] <PudgePacket> ActionParsnip, quantal
[15:28] <Yakut> mozhesh perevesti burzhuyam moe pozhelanie?)
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: not the newest but I'm not sure if its still around for precise
[15:29] <PudgePacket> Yes ActionParsnip, that name looks correct :)
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x
[15:29] <Yakut> pizdets nichego neponimayut
[15:29] <Yakut> dlya chego kanal voobshe
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> !en
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-tweak precise
[15:29] <bekks> !ru ¦ Yakut
[15:29] <dr_willis> its not in the default repos
[15:29] <bekks> !ru | Yakut
[15:29] <Safa_[A_boy]> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/0.8.x/0.8.2/+download/ubuntu-tweak_0.8.2-1~precise1_all.deb
[15:29] <killer> hi.......how do i disable alt <left-click> (window move)....as i need it in blender
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/   seems to be for 11.10 only
[15:30] <Yakut> I cant speak on ubuntu-ru
[15:30] <Yakut> because I havent permission
[15:30] <Yakut> :(
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> Yakut  what is your language?
[15:30] <escott> !register | Yakut
[15:30] <Yakut> russian and yakut
[15:30] <Yakut> !register Yakut sakhayakutsklala
[15:30] <dr_willis> or they got a ban on you for some reason
[15:31] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, are u sure ?!
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: read the page I gave the linked to
[15:31] <Yakut> ubottu> Yakut: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" :)
[15:31] <bekks> !register | Yakut
[15:31] <tuxydo> Hi. How do I get Azureus as my default bittorrent client?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/ubuntu-tweak-gets-full-ubuntu-1210.html   says a ppa for later
[15:32] <Yakut> NickServ- An email containing nickname activation instructions has been sent to asdkaisd@gmail.au.
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[15:32] <PudgePacket> Thanks for that ActionParsnip, the guide says to add some sources to your list, but i don't have internet while in ubuntu because that's what i am trying to fix, any ideas?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> tuxydo: right click a torrent file. select open with, select the app and select to remember the association
[15:32] <Yakut> Yakut> есть КТО?
[15:32] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[15:32] <FloodBot1> Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <killer> how do i disbable alt left click window moving
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: is that the PPA you used?
[15:33] <tuxydo> ActionParsnip: thank you.
[15:33] <dr_willis> killer: id check  askubuntu.com   ive seen that asked befor
[15:34] <Yakut> push me
[15:34] <Yakut> and then just fap me
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> killer: its part of XOrg itself, sounds like askubuntu has it according to dr_willis
[15:34] <Pinkamena_D> hi, for some reason my libre office icon appears grey and will not "restore" the window when i click on it
[15:34] <Yakut> masturbation
[15:34] <Yakut> push fappush fappush fap
[15:34] <Yakut> push fappush fappush fap push fap
[15:34] <Pinkamena_D> if i minimize other windows to get to it, the program itself works fine
[15:35] <Pinkamena_D> but clicking the sidebar icon does nothing
[15:35] <gordonjcp> Yakut: inappropriate
[15:35] <Pinkamena_D> as well as alt-tabbing to it, that does nothing aswell
[15:35] <PudgePacket> Thanks for your help so far ActionParsnip
[15:35] <varikonniemi> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso is this a iso file that can be installed to usb with dd?
[15:36] <varikonniemi> i have trouble to get it to boot
[15:36] <Yakut> gordonjcp> Yakut: inappropriate" inapropotori what?
[15:36] <dr_willis> varikonniemi: any  recent release iso can work with dd
[15:37] <varikonniemi> dr_willis, yes. This is not a release you see?
[15:37] <dr_willis> varikonniemi: current is 12.04 or 12.10
[15:38] <Yakut> 12.10 is a release
[15:38] <Yakut> ._.
[15:38] <varikonniemi> yes, but also the mini.iso you say?
[15:38] <Yakut> slowpoke
[15:38] <varikonniemi> should be "hybrid" or what is the term
[15:38] <bekks> !offtopic | Yakut
[15:38] <Yakut> varikonniemi> yes, but also the mini.iso you say?" big.inc
[15:38] <Yakut> bekks" lol
[15:39] <dr_willis> all the isos since 11.04 i think are hrbrid
[15:39] <Yakut> je ne sais pas
[15:39] <Yakut> oh ye o ye
[15:39] <Yakut> ja nie rozumien
[15:39] <Yakut> ne ponime
[15:39] <varikonniemi> are you a dev=
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> varikonniemi: mini iso install kernel, modules, boot loader and a handful of tools
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> varikonniemi: there is a 32bit mini iso and a 64bit mini iso
[15:39] <Yakut> ActionParsnip" help me
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: wassup?
[15:40] <Yakut> ActionParsnip" whatsapp?
[15:40] <Yakut> I have stripes when moving icons
[15:40] <Yakut> but its not critical
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: what video chip are you using?
[15:41] <Yakut> MY RIGHT DYNAMIC DONT SOUND
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: what video chip are you using?
[15:41] <Yakut> GT 540M
[15:41] <Yakut> laptop
[15:41] <dr_willis> right side speaker?
[15:41] <lachlan> this is dardy
[15:41] <k1l> Yakut: can you please troll elswhere? if you want support calm down or leave the channel.
[15:41] <lachlan> SUPOORT ME
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: does it have hybrid graphics?
[15:41] <Yakut> I have a real problem
[15:41] <lachlan> i need suport
[15:42] <lachlan> MEOW
[15:42] <Yakut> yes
[15:42] <FloodBot1> lachlan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <lachlan> MEO
[15:42] <lachlan> WMWEOMWOEM
[15:42] <Yakut> Intel and Nvidia
[15:42] <dr_willis> !ask
[15:42] <Yakut> I have bubmblebeee
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: then you will get problems
[15:42] <Yakut> bumblebee
[15:42] <lachlan> sudo apt-get install fuck_allyou-niggs-0.8.6
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics  is all I know
[15:42] <yeats> !ops | lachlan
[15:42] <Yakut> ActionParsnip" uh
[15:42] <Yakut> youre a captaun obvious
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: if you intend to use Linux based OS it is best (imho) to flat out avoid that mess
[15:43] <Yakut> I installed bubmlbebee
[15:43] <Yakut> Nvidia worjs good
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: I assume nothing
[15:43] <Yakut> but I have stripes and right sound making thing has died
[15:43] <dr_willis> bumble is verymuch a work in progress and not stable.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: have you tried a different desktop?
[15:43] <Yakut> on 12.04
[15:44] <Yakut> there s didnt yes stripes
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: yes, install xfce4   then log off and log in to the XFCE session, is it ok there?
[15:44] <dr_willis> a clean unstall of 12.10 may work also.
[15:44] <Yakut> I used 12.04 - WERE WAS VERY BEATUIFULL AND STABLE
[15:44] <Yakut> desktop = UI?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: then why did you fix it?
[15:44] <Yakut> or diffretnet device
[15:44] <yeats> Yakut: I recommend backing up your files and reinstalling 12.04
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: you fixed something that wasn't broken....
[15:45] <Yakut> ActionParsnip" 12.10 is a bugfix?
[15:45] <Yakut> o.o
[15:45] <dr_willis> or testing with a 12.10 live dvd see if it happens there
[15:45] <Yakut> * klmn ушел (Quit: Wychodzi)" polak co tak
[15:45] <bekks> Yakut: 12.10 is a different release.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: not really, 12.04 is LTS so is designed to be super stable
[15:46] <Yakut> bekks> Yakut: 12.10 is a different release." O_O
[15:46] <Yakut> 12.10 is a beta?
[15:46] <miistx> un saluto
[15:46] <bekks> Yakut: No.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: no, its just not LTS
[15:46] <Yakut> I know what it isnt LTS
[15:46] <YokoBR> guys, please, i've been trying for 2 days to install my ati driver on ubuntu 12.10, but i can't.... says that the install went ok, but when i reboot, i can't get 3d working
[15:46] <dr_willis> !lts
[15:46] <Yakut> =_=
[15:46] <Yakut> but i have a bug
[15:46] <Yakut> with stripes and sound
[15:47] <Yakut> no LTS doesnt mean bugs
[15:47] <Yakut> of course?
[15:47] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Not "designed to be super stable" but will over time cause it has support of 5 years. You can even see how 10.04 LTS got stable over years.
[15:47] <headbuster> Hello, can I have some help removing gnome. I think I managed to download a lot of stuff I don't need while trying to change my unity theme.
[15:48] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, nothing new ! still: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: then I suggest you contact the PPA maintainers
[15:48] <Yakut> I want prezervativ pongolin
[15:49] <Yakut> or normal GUI with no bug
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: yeah Lucid was nice, its dead soon though
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: all software has bugs in some form
[15:49] <Yakut> =(
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: did you try the XFCE desktop?
[15:49] <Yakut> no
[15:50] <varikonniemi> mini.iso is not hybrid, it seems
[15:50] <IdleOne> Yakut: There is no such thing as a "normal GUI with no bugs" why not state the issue you are actually having and find out if someone can help with it.
[15:50] <Yakut> I had Windows 7 aero
[15:50] <Cong> In new years I'll be installing a 12 series (version 12.04). Can I install gnome-panel, enable metacity and disable unity? I need instructions.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: I suggest you do
[15:50] <Safa_[A_boy]> its strange ! in 12.10 it works, in 12.04 it doesnt :(
[15:50] <Yakut> but it is very  ad
[15:50] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Unfortunately yes, it's last of its kind, with gnome 2.x.
[15:50] <varikonniemi> so i have no way to install my 12.10 then :( great choices, ubuntu
[15:50] <Yakut> bad
[15:50] <Yakut> and I make ubuntu
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: thank god
[15:50] <Yakut> 12.04
[15:50] <Yakut> was nice
[15:50] <FloodBot1> Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <yeats> !nounity | Cong
[15:50] <Yakut> 12.10 is like a dog shit
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: why do you need to hit ENTER after every other word?
[15:50] <IdleOne> !language | Yakut
[15:51] <Yakut> ActionParsnip, I dont know
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: try the other desktop, see how it goes
[15:51] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Why "thank god"?
[15:51] <varikonniemi> tell me how i am supposed to install to a raid1 setup the 12.10 when i have no cd drive?
[15:51] <headbuster> How can I remove gnome .  I have lot's of unneeded gnome files and I want to use unity.
[15:51] <headbuster> *packages
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: because it has painfully old versions of nearly everything, newer hardware works well with the newer kernels and drivers
[15:51] <IdleOne> headbuster: Unity runs on top of gnome3
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> headbuster: you need gnome for Unity
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> well, not strictly but it helps a LOT
[15:52] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: But 10.04 LTS is great for poeple with little bit older hardware, if they like gnome classic.
[15:52] <Forzar> get to a fresh installing..
[15:52] <thelinux> headbuster: Wait, I'll help you.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: then you can use Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[15:53] <headbuster> I see, I installed gnome-*something*-extenstions and it installed alot of sutff. I managed to get my old login screen back but I can see that there is a lot of gnome pakcages that I don't need.
[15:53] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Some poeple prefer good old experience with gnome 2.x ;)
[15:53] <IdleOne> thelinux: gnome2 is dead.
[15:53] <headbuster> I tried removing gnome-*something*-extensions but it didn't remove the other packages it downloaded.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: XFCE looks and feels a lot like Gnome2
[15:53] <YokoBR> please, could someone help me installing my gpu driver?
[15:54] <thelinux> IdleOne: Not really. Have you heard of MATE?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> headbuster: try:  dpkg -l | grep gnome | awk {'print $2'}
[15:54] <thelinux> YokoBR: What's is the problem buddy?
[15:54] <IdleOne> thelinux: I have. gnome2 is dead
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> headbuster: review the list, if you want rid of them all, we can use it to remove the lot in one command
[15:54] <IdleOne> Now please let's get back to Ubuntu support
[15:54] <thelinux> IdleOne: Open source software is never dead, it still lives through MATE.
[15:54] <YokoBR> thelinux, i'm on ubuntu 12.10, and i've installed the driver but i can't get it working
[15:55] <YokoBR> i mean, it's fglrx on xorg.conf, but no opengl woking
[15:55] <YokoBR> sorry for my bad english
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: mate support is quite limited
[15:55] <thelinux> YokoBR: Yeah I had similliar problems with previous versions. Did you use additional drivers tab from software sources to install driver for your gpu?
[15:55] <IdleOne> This channel is not the place to discuss it, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue chatting.
[15:55] <YokoBR> yep
[15:56] <headbuster> ActionParsnip: everything seems to be working, I just don't want to have stuff that I don't need on the system, since I only have 30gb, and I don't know which of those are needed for unity.
[15:56] <YokoBR> thelinux, yep, i've installed by there. And everything goes ok on the installation
[15:56] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Not really, I've used it, I must say it's really good, pure gnome 2.x experience, but it's still in development ;)
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: no, its not supported here, so if you get issues with mate you won't get help here
[15:57] <thelinux> YokoBR: Who is manufacturer of you card? And model of it?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> headbuster: I'd remove the gnome apps then just install Unity, it will install what is needed
[15:57] <YokoBR> i have hybrid hd 4200 and hd 6310
[15:58] <YokoBR> amd ati
[15:58] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: You have Mint community who can help with MATE since it's official DE on Mint 13.
[15:58] <IdleOne> !ot | thelinux ActionParsnip Please stop.
[15:58] <auronandace> thelinux: then go to the mint channel
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: you got it :D
[15:58] <headbuster> ActionParsnip: ok, any idea how to do that? also: http://pastebin.com/J86MjViK
[15:58] <YokoBR> sorry, thelinux, hydrib hd 4200 and hd 6310, amd/ati
[15:59] <Bier__> my hdd from my laptop recently broke, so I am now using ubuntu and it's awesome!
[15:59] <thelinux> IdleOne ubottu auronandace: What? I said Mint community is experienced with MATE. What did I do wrong?
[16:00] <IdleOne> thelinux: You are continuing to be off topic for this channel.
[16:00] <auronandace> thelinux: this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[16:00] <thelinux> IdleOne auronandace: Sorry sometimes I go off topic without even noticing, sorry about that.
[16:00] <IdleOne> thelinux: in #ubuntu we support Ubuntu. We have many other channels in the ubuntu name space that you are welcome to join and "chat"
[16:01] <bipul> thelinux,  please don't troll here
[16:02] <thelinux> YokoBR: Delete drivers you have installed, and try downloading driver for you GPU from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[16:02] <Yakut> Bier__> my hdd from my laptop recently broke, so I am now using ubuntu and it's awesome!" using from CD?
[16:02] <thelinux> bipul: Excuse me?
[16:02] <YokoBR> thelinux, i've already tried that :(
[16:03] <bipul> thelinux, Excuse us , with you mint talk about ubuntu
[16:03] <IdleOne> bipul: thelinux does not appear to be trolling, they just may not have been aware of the channel policy
[16:03] <zykotick9> thelinux: using drivers from outside of ubuntu repos is... not the greatest suggestion.  YokoBR
[16:03] <bipul> IdleOne,  oh then  i am really sory for that :)
[16:03] <YokoBR> okay, i screwd up my system
[16:04] <thelinux> zykotick9: Exactly. But he installed from additional drivers, it doesn't work for him.
[16:04] <Cong> So I just install gnome-panel, select it from the sessions in the login screen and that's it. I have disabled unity?
[16:04] <Yakut> bipul" U are trolling what you name other people trolling
[16:04] <Yakut> you are slim troll
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Cong: yes, unity doesn't load
[16:04] <IdleOne> stop!
[16:05] <auronandace> hammer time
[16:05] <thelinux> YokoBR: I had issue with NVIDIA drivers myself in some pass releases, you can only blame bad support of NVIDIA and ATI  for drivers. But have you tried using older versions of that driver buddy?
[16:06] <Yakut> I have a problem wit launching Ageof Empires 3 on wine
[16:06] <Yakut> can you help me?
[16:06] <IdleOne> Yakut: ##winehq can
[16:06] <thelinux> Bier__: You mentioned your laptop broke? Do you need help with something buddy?
[16:06] <auronandace> !appdb | Yakut
[16:06] <urist_> For the first time I purchased an AMD video card, only to find out it doesn't work very well with Ubuntu. it's so disappointing. I won't be buying AMD again after this one
[16:07] <Yakut> IdleOne fanx bro
[16:07] <Yakut> youre awesome
[16:07] <boris-semat> Greetings. I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice about ripping my dvd collection. I have ripped 3 different dvds using Handbrake. I have three files now that are 6-8 GB and they are m4v. I can't find a media player that will open and play them. I tried changing one of the files to a mp4 but I still didn't get any results. I have used VLC and Miro. I have Ubuntu 3rd party installed. Thank you
[16:07] <thelinux> urist_: Yeah, ATI had ussually bad support for Linux drivers. Try older versions of that driver.
[16:07] <YokoBR> thelinux, ive tryied the ati.com legacy, but didn't worked also
[16:08] <InspectorCluseau> I had an ATI card years ago that crapped and took out the MB ... never again
[16:08] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  vlc can play them rere i rev
[16:09] <boris-semat> dr_willis: I tried VLC but it wouldn't play them. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still it would not play
[16:09] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  you can reencode them with other tools if you want different formats
[16:10] <varikonniemi> how does ubuntu and lubuntu differ on a practical level?
[16:10] <Yakut> lubuntu is for lower end PC
[16:10] <varikonniemi> can i make a lubuntu into ubuntu by repointing the repos etc?
[16:10] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  uninstalling/reinstalling is a 'windows mindset'     run vlc from a terminal play the file.. look for error messages
[16:10] <Yakut> on lubuntu is KDE
[16:10] <zykotick9> varikonniemi: what desktop-environment they use by default - that's it...
[16:11] <dr_willis> varikonniemi:  just install ubuntu-desktop package
[16:11] <mneptok> varikonniemi: your question is so broad in scale it would malke any answer pretty useless.
[16:11] <auronandace> varikonniemi: they already use the same repos
[16:11] <varikonniemi> as i see  lubuntu 12.10 is available, so it would be my best choice to get 12.10
[16:11] <Yakut> but ubuntu is better
[16:11] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  You caught me :) I am a recent convert to the world of Linux
[16:11] <thelinux> InspectorCluseau: Yeah I almost bought an ATI video card when my NVIDIA graphics card broke. Good thing I choosed NVIDIA again, since I wasn't aware at that time of bad support for ATI linux drivers.
[16:11] <mneptok> Yakut: Lubuntu uses LXDR. not KDE.
[16:11] <mneptok> *LXDE
[16:11] <Yakut> mneptok, thanks cap
[16:11] <dr_willis> boris-semat: there are other dvd ripper apps in the repos.
[16:11] <thelinux> Yakut: LXDE
[16:11] <Yakut> I knew it
[16:11] <Yakut> but I joke with KDE
[16:11] <Yakut> :D
[16:11] <thelinux> Yakut: Sorry ;)
[16:12] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  what commands do I use to run it from the terminal?
[16:12] <mneptok> Yakut: avoid jokes when people need support.
[16:12] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  'vlc'
[16:12] <Yakut> mneptok, am sorry but its very funny
[16:12] <Yakut> to joke
[16:12] <mneptok> Yakut: don't do it. full stop.
[16:13] <Yakut> these channel is very monotonus
[16:13] <Bier__> theLinux: not really, I was just showing appreciation. my only problem right now is that the screen that i hooked up to my laptop is slightly blurry, even though it's in it's native resolution
[16:13] <Bier__> im installing updates for ubuntu first though
[16:13] <Yakut> I want to make this channel more colorful
[16:13] <mneptok> Yakut: keep up the offtopic banter and joking and i promise i will make things more interesting for you.
[16:13] <k1l> Yakut: your behavior is called trolling. so stop that now!
[16:13] <thelinux> Bier__: Is there option on your screen, a button to adjust resolution? That could fix it.
[16:13] <dr_willis> Yakut:  thats for #ubuntu-offtopic chat and color
[16:13] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  here is the results from the terminal: [0xb230dc70] mp4 demux error: MP4 plugin discarded (no moov,foov,moof box)
[16:13] <boris-semat> [mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0xb2317700] moov atom not found
[16:13] <boris-semat> [0xb230dc70] avformat demux error: Could not open : Unknown error 1094995529
[16:13] <boris-semat> [mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0xb540c2a0] moov atom not found
[16:14] <Bier__> there is, let me try
[16:14] <auronandace> Yakut: this is a support channel, making jokes like that is like spreading misinformation, not fair to newcommers
[16:14] <Yakut> mneptok> Yakut: keep up the offtopic banter and joking and i promise i will make things more interesting for you." tell me how I can enjoy without stripes on icon at dash
[16:15] <mneptok> Yakut: i do not use Ubuntu, so i do not have a Dash.
[16:15] <Bier__> theLinux: the auto button worked! :D
[16:15] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  i would try reencoding with a diffeerent app, and try a different riper tool.
[16:15] <Bier__> sharp as a nail
[16:15] <Yakut> i will make things more interesting for you." okay..
[16:15] <Yakut> )
[16:15] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  ok...i'll give that a shot. Thanks!
[16:16] <thelinux> Bier__: Awesome ;)
[16:16] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  ive also seen protected dvds that dont playback or have issues on pcs  and older players. ;(
[16:16] <mneptok> Yakut: that was your last offtopic comment.
[16:16] <mneptok> !ot
[16:17] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  I thought that it could be something like that. I started with 4 dvds and one wouldn't even rip. It stopped after 2 seconds and said it was complete. The others had no problems but won't play after they finish
[16:18] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  i ended up using dvdfab in wine with the problrm ones i had. even then some wouldent rip.
[16:19] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  is it illegal to get them from torrents if you own the dvd?
[16:19] <Yakut> tell me please good channel where I can speak with people
[16:19] <Yakut> ^)^
[16:19] <Yakut> ^_^
[16:20] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  who knows.. .. ive seen it argued both ways.
[16:20] <Random832> it depends on the country. I know it's illegal in the US, though.
[16:20] <chucktewks> any folks on that know where drupal would be installed by default?  is there an easy way to know this with an "apt" command of some kind :)
[16:20] <Defuera> hey guys, I just updated to 12.10 and date/time dissapeared from menu bar it's not even in the settings anymore... Couldn't google anything abiut it, any idea?
[16:20] <thelinux> boris-semat: Yes.
[16:21] <dr_willis> my copy of 'titanic' came with a free ditigal download.. that would only work if i used itunes.....
[16:21] <mneptok> !ot | Yakut
[16:21] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  so what's the best software to use to do this then? I tried handbrake and none of my dvds play.
[16:22] <Yakut> !ot | dr_willis
[16:22] <k1l> cmon. when will an op ban him. he is obviously trolling since hours. :(
[16:23] <dr_willis> i think handbreak works.. but i belive its  living ooon its past glory and reputation. i tend to just use k9copy or i think ogmrip  theres othere out also. or dvdfab in wine.
[16:23] <dr_willis> i dont rip a lot of stuff
[16:23] <mneptok> k1l: do try to keep up, dear.
[16:23] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  ok... I will give some others a shot. Thanks for your help!
[16:24] <dr_willis> what i do rip is tv series i bought. so  some tools do that task better then others
[16:24] <NET||abuse> arrg, ec2 is doing my head in,, adduser myuser tothisgroup    doesn't work
[16:24] <NET||abuse> useradd -G groupname usertoadd says the user already exists..
[16:24] <NET||abuse> how do you add the existing user to another group?
[16:24] <NET||abuse> debian/ubuntu is just useradd username togroup as far as i remember
[16:25] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  my hope is to have a entertainment server using xbmc and mythbuntu so i can record live tv and have all of my dvds, music and photos on my tv
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[16:25] <NET||abuse> ahhh jeebus.
[16:25] <NET||abuse> thank you :)
[16:25] <NET||abuse> google results just didn't give that to me.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: thats how I do it, works across the board :)
[16:25] <Bier__> is it possible to install windows games on ubuntu?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: man pages ;)
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: in wine, maybe
[16:25] <dr_willis> NET||abuse:  see a variant on this question about 3 times a week in here
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: some apps have native installers too
[16:26] <k1l> Bier__: yes, take alook into wine and the wine appdb
[16:26] <t4b> Why is there a >10GB big ".xsession-errors" file in my home-directory? Shouldn't that automatically be cleaned out now and again? Can I do something to get it to keep that file under a few hundred megabytes or so?
[16:26] <zykotick9> NET||abuse: careful with usermod!  that -a is SUPER important!
[16:26] <savio> Bier__, use wine with playonlinux
[16:26] <NET||abuse> ActionParsnip: had to know about usermod to even find the man page though :)
[16:26] <Bier__> ok i will
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: true
[16:26] <escott> t4b, no... nothing would clean it out
[16:26] <jrib> t4b: you should see what's in it :)
[16:26] <Bier__> i'd like to install hitman blood money
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> t4b: read the files, you are having issues in your x server
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: check the appdb
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: it shows the apps that work and don't work and how to make them work etc
[16:27] <k1l> Bier__: take a look into the appdb to see if the game runs with wine and what exactly will or wont work
[16:27] <auronandace> !appdb | Bier__
[16:27] <Bier__> thank you
[16:28] <NET||abuse> exit
[16:28] <savio> Bier__, there is great app on ubuntu software center "playonlinux" it just great it automates the installation of many steps like winetricks
[16:29] <Osmodivs> Hello, is there an alternative for UnetBooting? I would use Unetbooting, but everytime I try to open it, my PC will log out.
[16:29] <dr_willis> Osmodivs:  the pendrivelinux site has dozens of alternatives
[16:30] <t4b> jrib, ActionParsnip: I looked into the file, it seems to mostly consist of errors thrown by nautilus and totem and other random errors thrown by programs I launched. It's not even all errors, there is also stuff which is labeled "info" or "warning". I don't find anything which is common about the stuff n there.
[16:30] <dr_willis> lot out = back to the login screen?  thats 'X crashing' not logging out...   ;)
[16:30] <auronandace> Osmodivs: you can also dd a ubuntu iso
[16:30] <t4b> *in
[16:31] <Kinder-Pingvi> привет.. проблема с флешплеером
[16:31] <jrib> t4b: put the last thousand or so lines in a pastebin?
[16:31] <Random832> !en | Kinder-Pingvi
[16:31] <t4b> jrib, okay
[16:31] <Osmodivs> dr_willis: Well, X is crashing a lot these past days
[16:31] <auronandace> !ru | Kinder-Pingvi
[16:31] <Kinder-Pingvi> thanks)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: 1 2 3 app from pendrive linux
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: usb-creator in Ubuntu
[16:33] <Bier__> hm ubuntu update failed
[16:33] <fellayaboy> hey how can u resume a download instead of starting all over again using sftp terminal
[16:33] <fay> do you know why
[16:34] <Bier__> operation failed
[16:34] <Bier__> i will try again
[16:34] <lix> Bier__: run "sudo do-release-update" in terminal
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: upgrade of the same release, or are you trying to get to the next release
[16:35] <Bier__> just updating
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Bier__
[16:35] <zykotick9> Bier__: fyi lix's comment is to go to a new release of ubuntu, not just a system update
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> lix: do-release-upgrade not needed dude...
[16:36] <Bier__> ah
[16:36] <escott> fellayaboy, you cant
[16:36] <Bier__> update not necessary?
[16:36] <fay> fellayaboy: use something like rsync next time
[16:36] <FireStorms> Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has installed a HP printer before. I'm trying to install a HP DESKJET 2050A on Ubuntu 10.04. I'm using the CUPS Web Interface to manually select my printer to install, as the device is not being recognised automatically. The closest printer CUPS lists to my DESKJET 2050A is the DESKJET 2000. I tried the option but it didn't work. What can I do?
[16:36] <lix> ActionParsnip: sorry. - must have misread Bier's issue...
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> lix: ;)
[16:37] <fellayaboy> wow ok..so what if i use sftp at the beginning will rsync pick up where sftp left off or do i have to use rsync from the beginning when transfering a file
[16:37] <fay> fellayaboy: rsync from the beginning
[16:37] <escott> fellayaboy, yes
[16:37] <fellayaboy> ohh well bye bye sftp its been a long journey
[16:37] <ghostconn> my hdmi audio is not working any help?
[16:37] <escott> fellayaboy, if you have a partial file rsync can work from that
[16:37] <t4b> jrib, here: https://gist.github.com/ddfe5da4e3dd38b12374
[16:38] <fellayaboy> by partial file u mean a file thats imcomplete?
[16:38] <escott> fellayaboy, yes
[16:38] <baldfat> I am trying out Ubuntu from arch linux for kicks. WHERE the heck do I change the Xresources and Xdefaults? Do I have to create them manually and then change what for them to be read?
[16:38] <fellayaboy> ok
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: is it a desktop OS?
[16:38] <fellayaboy> thats good then thank u
[16:38] <FireStorms> ActionParsnip, yes
[16:39] <ghostconn> has anyone got their hdmi audio working with a sapphire hd 7770?
[16:39] <jrib> t4b: Coin error in SoNode::GLRenderS(): GL error: 'GL_INVALID_OPERATION', nodetype: Separator (set envvar COIN_GLERROR_DEBUGGING=1 and re-run to get more information)
[16:39] <jrib> t4b: what's that about?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: Lucid desktop has little over 6 months support left. Is it worth it?
[16:40] <t4b> jrib, haven't got a clue, I think it's probably a game I run which threw that one each render cycle or something like that.
[16:40] <Xix19> help, I restarted my virtualbox, and now when I start it up it loads up until the login page but doesn't show any login options and I can't do anything
[16:40] <jrib> t4b: ok well you can just delete ~/.xsession-errors if there's nothing obviously wrong
[16:40] <Xix19> the mouse moves ok but all I see is the login background
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Xix19: tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[16:41] <Xix19> ActionParsnip: how do I try it?
[16:41] <zykotick9> baldfat: re .Xdefaults, i have to use ~/.Xdefaults-YOURHOSTNAMEHERE to get it to work myself.  best of luck.
[16:42] <baldfat> zykotick9: thnaks
[16:42] <baldfat> zykotick9: that looks back@zzwards
[16:43] <t4b> jrib, just did so, I guess I'll see if it starts growing to those sizes again
[16:43] <ghostconn> my hdmi audio is not working when i run aplay -l i get this ard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
[16:43] <ghostconn>   Subdevices: 1/1
[16:43] <ghostconn>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[16:43] <ghostconn> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 3: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
[16:43] <ghostconn>   Subdevices: 1/1
[16:43] <FloodBot1> ghostconn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <ghostconn>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[16:44] <jrib> t4b: yeah, you probably have one app that just constantly throws out one of those messages.  google suggests maybe "freecad".  Do you use that?
[16:44] <zykotick9> baldfat: i've actually asked about why the hostname was required - i was told to check the man page ;) sure enough, it's documented.  IMO it's a huge pain, 'cause you can't just transfer the file to new installs, must rename with box's hostname attached to the file :(
[16:45] <Osmodivs> Is there a way to "merge" 2 partitions in an USB memory stick? I need all the memory available, but currently it is divided in 2 partitions. I have GParted, but do not know how to use it.
[16:46] <jrib> zykotick9, baldfat: can't you use ~/.Xresources ?
[16:46] <escott> Osmodivs, move the data off. delete one paritition. grow the other. move the data back
[16:46] <zykotick9> baldfat: see jrib's comment above.  i don't seem to use .Xresources (ie. not one on my install right now, so can't confirm)
[16:47] <FireStorms> ActionParsnip, I see no reason to upgrade
[16:48] <Osmodivs> escott: That was easy, thx.
[16:48] <PhoenixSTF> i cant get my Ubuntu to work with my backlight keys one eeepc 1101HA, it is not changing the /sys/class/backlight/psb-lb/brightness, it's using the acpi/brightness instead, any workaround?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: could try upgrading hplip using the run file from the hplip site
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: the newer versions of packages and such may make the printer just work
[16:49] <savio> anyone can help me with bugsqud i don't know what to do ?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: let me search
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: try the boot option: poulsbo.blacklist=yes
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/asus_eee_pc_1101   source
[16:51] <ghostconn> dose anyone know how to update catalyst control center
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: actually scratch that, add: acpi_backlight=vendor
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:51] <saxin> How can I find out information about the memory installed in a computer? Like how much ram, the speed of the ram etc.
[16:52] <escott> saxin, dmidecode
[16:52] <zykotick9> saxin: "cat /proc/meminfo"
[16:52] <ghostconn> ActionParsnip : I have already done those commands.. I have a ati hd7770 my hdmi audio shows up under sound setting/output but i get no sound??
[16:52] <Nahjil> Anyone have an issue after installing, everything seems to go well and then after you enter your password your screen goes wonky with weird artifacts?
[16:52] <zykotick9> saxin: that's some of what you wanted.  for speed you'll probably need hwinfo (not a program i know)
[16:53] <chucktewks> linux noob question --- if i want to install a CMS like Plone - what directory should it go under?  /usr/local?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: if you run: alsamixer   are all levels maxed and unmuted? If you press F6 in alsamxer  is the right output device set?
[16:53] <jrib> baldfat: from « man Xsession »: Note that $HOME/.Xdefaults is a relic from X Version 10 (and X11R1) days, before app-defaults files were implemented.  It has been deprecated for over ten years at the time of this writing.  .Xresources should be used instead.
[16:53] <zykotick9> chucktewks: IMO you should leave all of /usr to the system, my vote is to use /opt
[16:54] <fellayaboy> i have a question though...why is it that gui clients like firefox fireftp or filezilla have a resume but terminal based sftp doesnt
[16:55] <jrib> fellayaboy: it doesn't?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: because they have coded it into the app.
[16:55] <zykotick9> chucktewks: i'm very conservative (old school unix) in my admin style.  see "man hier" for more official source of info ;)
[16:55] <escott> chucktewks, the way i have always done it is: if it installs to a monolithic folder then put it under /opt/PROGRAM_NAME. if it has a unix like layout (with /usr/bin and /usr/lib) then put it in /usr/local
[16:55] <Forzar> yeah one based on GUI  ,and the other based terminal..
[16:56] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, actualy I tried all types of conbinations with these options acpi_osi=Linux (because i am having a bit of batery detection issue) acpi_backlight=vendor, poulsbo.blacklist=yes, eeepc.blacklist=yes
[16:56] <fellayaboy> so i guess all one has to do is modify the source code for sftp terminal
[16:56] <jrib> chucktewks: I follow escott's approach too
[16:56] <chucktewks> thanks all
[16:57] <ghostconn> Actionparsnip : i followed your command and have set the default sound to my hdmi via alsamixer noting is muted but still no sound yes my tv volume is up
[16:57] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, all that acpi_backlight=vendor gets me is the recognition that I use the fn+f5/f6 keys, but it is always the psb-bl/brightness file that rules over the backlight, and the keys wont work on that file, they always work on the other one
[16:59] <chucktewks> is it common for a program to put itself under /usr/share?  (e.g. drupal)
[16:59] <green91> no
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: if you run the 'sound' app in dash, is the right device set for output there?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: all I can suggest is report a bug. Do you have the latest BIOS?
[17:00] <ghostconn> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:01] <ghostconn> :(
[17:01] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, yes, bug was reported since 11.04 or 11.10
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: gah
[17:02] <escott> chucktewks, if you dont configure otherwise look at ./configure --prefix and also use checkinstall
[17:02] <ghostconn> should i maybe restart my pc after changing the default sound card through alsamixer?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: worth a shot
[17:11] <ghostconn> sounds settings are set to hdmi out, volume is up on both tv and system, alsamixer set to HDA ATI Sb Realtek ALC889 nothing muted ( i turned off auto mute) STILL NO SOUND what could it be
[17:14] <ghostconn> ActionParsnip : do you think it would be wise to install the post release update ati driver if I already have a working fglrx driver installed
[17:15] <cryptodira> i have just upgraded to 11.10 and my fan is running constantly at full speed.... toshiba notebook amd components... in ALL of the previous versions  this has not happened.... solution?
[17:16] <thelinux> cryptodira: Install Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10.
[17:16] <zatan>  Hey can anyone advised me how can I fix this issue with maximize window? http://i.imgur.com/fiBT5.png  the bottom window is not maximised as he suppost to
[17:16] <cryptodira> thelinux; i suspected as much... thanks.
[17:17] <compdoc> in 12.04.1, the PATH for my username doesnt include any of the sbin directories, so I cant run things like ifconfig without using sudo. possible to fix?
[17:18] <jrib> compdoc: umm, what's in your /etc/environment?
[17:19] <thelinux> zatan: How do you mean?
[17:19] <thelinux> zatan: I wasn't able to reproduce that bug.
[17:20] <compdoc> jrib, the proper path is there. the one sudo uses
[17:20] <compdoc> but my path is less
[17:20] <jrib> compdoc: grep PATH ~/.profile ~/.*bash* ~/.pam*
[17:20] <ghostconn> is there a command to upgrade to 12:10?
[17:21] <jrib> !upgrade | ghostconn
[17:21] <jrib> ghostconn: also '.' is used, not ':' :)
[17:21] <thelinux> ghostconn: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[17:22] <jrib> thelinux, ghostconn: that will *not* upgrade between releases
[17:22] <ghostconn> thank you :) .... and what do you mean it wont upgrade?
[17:23] <jrib> ghostconn: what's not clear? apt-get dist-upgrade is not the command you want.  See ubottu
[17:23] <Summun> talking about that... when would you recommend an update to 12.10 or stay in the LTS version?
[17:23] <compdoc> jrib, http://pastebin.com/E7UW3Z4d
[17:23] <thelinux> ghostconn: Or go to software sources, updates, check notify of new updates.  Go to update manager it should offer you download of Ubuntu.
[17:23] <jrib> compdoc: what is your PATH?  echo $PATH
[17:24] <dr_willis> Summun: depends on your needs
[17:24] <thelinux> ghostconn: You're using Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:24] <ghostconn> yes i am
[17:24] <compdoc> its:  /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
[17:24] <Bier__> can anyone help me install a snes emulator for ubuntu?  the one from the Ubuntu Software Center, NES ROM player does not work for me, crashes instantly after i click a rom
[17:24] <jrib> compdoc: how did you login?
[17:24] <dr_willis> Summun: i like playing with the latest stuff.. for a business i would stick to lts
[17:25] <ghostconn> jrib sorry i understand now i thought you were saying that by doing so it would not upgrade lol
[17:25] <compdoc> remotely to vncserver
[17:25] <compdoc> jrib  ^
[17:25] <thelinux> Bier__: I might help you, I've used emulators.
[17:25] <Summun> dr_willis, what about if i use it to work in the university, as a student, lts?
[17:25] <Bier__> i see one named Zsnes, but it displays not found
[17:25] <dr_willis> Bier__: run it from a terminal. look for errors when it crashes
[17:26] <dr_willis> zsnes at one time was 32 bit only... not sure if thats still the case
[17:26] <jrib> compdoc: does the same thing happen if you use ssh?
[17:26] <dr_willis> !info zsned
[17:26] <dr_willis> !info zsnes
[17:26] <thelinux> Bier__: Look online for Zsnes emulator. And I'm not sure if even NES ROM would work, since I think it's meant for NES games not SNES.
[17:27] <Cong> zsnes is the best emu ever.
[17:27] <compdoc> jrib, hmm, the path is correct with ssh
[17:27] <dr_willis> zsnes is super nes.
[17:27] <thelinux> Bier__: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install zsnes
[17:28] <jrib> compdoc: hmm, which vnc server is this?
[17:28] <Bier__> i get zsnes has no installation candidate
[17:28] <compdoc> vnc4server
[17:29] <thelinux> Bier__: http://www.zsnes.com/
[17:29] <Bier__> yeah i have downloaded the tar file
[17:29] <dr_willis> Bier__: you on 12.10?
[17:29] <Bier__> yes
[17:29] <dr_willis> weird.
[17:30] <Bier__> i have extracted the package but how do i launch it
[17:30] <zykotick9> Bier__: what is the output from "uname -m" on your system?
[17:30] <thelinux> Bier__: You need to compile it.
[17:31] <Bier__> x86_64
[17:31] <thelinux> Bier__: You sure there isn't zsnes in repositories, since I typed sudo apt-get install zsnes, it showed right away.
[17:31] <dr_willis> zsnes installed fine here....
[17:31] <dr_willis> Bier__: use the terminal. cd to the dir.     ./zsnes   perhaps
[17:31] <Bier__> when i look in software center it shows up
[17:32] <Bier__> but when i click on it it says
[17:32] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i'm guessing zsnes is failing to install for Bier__ due to the 32/64bit thing.
[17:32] <dr_willis> 12.10 64 bit .. zsnes installed via apt-get
[17:32] <Bier__> "there isnt a software package called zsnes in your current software sources:
[17:32] <zykotick9> dr_willis: guess it's something else then ;)
[17:32] <thelinux> Bier__ dr_willis: I have 32 bit, and it can install here too.
[17:32] <dr_willis> !info zsnes
[17:32] <Bier__> so i go to edit > software sources and check all
[17:33] <dr_willis> universe repo not enabled?
[17:33] <Bier__> i dont follow
[17:33] <jrib> compdoc: I'm not familiar with vnc4server, have you done any special configuration for it?
[17:33] <compdoc> no, but this gives me a clue now - thanks
[17:33] <doomlord> can ubuntu do ARGB transparency for gtk elements
[17:33] <dr_willis> be sure  thh universe reposity is enabled   Bier__
[17:33] <thelinux> Bier__: Go to software sources, Ubuntu software tab, and check all there.
[17:34] <CaBa> hi
[17:34] <Bier__> i have theLinux
[17:34] <jrib> compdoc: ok good luck.  You can always work around it of course by using ~/.profile.  But if you want to get to the bottom of the issue, I guess you have to investigate more
[17:34] <thelinux> Bier__: Change "download from" to different server.
[17:34] <XiaYixuan> hi
[17:34] <doomlord> q2 does ubuntu officially not support NVidia GT640 (i got some later drivers, i get multiple screens, compiz fails, but gl apps work)
[17:34] <compdoc> jrib, I can just add a path in ~/.profile?
[17:35] <dr_willis> Bier__: sudo apt-get update  and try again to install it.
[17:35] <systemclient> say I installed the beta of 12.10 and installed all upgrades. Do I now have the regular stable version?
[17:35] <dr_willis> systemclient: yes
[17:35] <zykotick9> !final | systemclient
[17:35] <thelinux> systemclient: If upgrade was sucessfull, you should than.
[17:36] <systemclient> dr_willis: zykotick9 thelinux thanks!
[17:36] <yote> in terminal how do I check to see what is my current desktop environment
[17:37] <thelinux> Bier__: Did you change the server from software sources and tried to download it? Please post results here.
[17:37] <Bier__> yes theLinux, im trying the update now
[17:37] <dr_willis> cat      .dmrc        perhaps yote
[17:37] <dr_willis> but theres no gurantees
[17:38] <yote> thanks
[17:38] <thelinux> yote: ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/
[17:38] <Bier__> sill not found
[17:39] <Bier__> Package zsnes is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:39] <Bier__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:39] <Bier__> is only available from another source
[17:39] <Bier__> E: Package 'zsnes' has no installation candidate
[17:39] <Bier__> in terminal
[17:39] <Bier__> and in software center:
[17:39] <Bier__> There isn’t a software package called “zsnes” in your current software sources.
[17:40] <Jim_> I have a boot problem with Ubuntu. I have a laptop HP Pavilion G7 with a AMD APU A8 4500m. Ican't boot from CD and can't install ubuntu. What can I do?
[17:40] <McPeter> hi
[17:40] <systemclient> Jim_: did you set it in the BIOS to boot from CD?
[17:40] <yote> thanks thelinux
[17:40] <yote> itworked
[17:40] <McPeter> how change language in webalizer please ?
[17:40] <ghostconn> i tried using the command     sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ....... to upgrade my version from 12.04 to 12.10 and 0ugrades available
[17:40] <Jim_> Yes I can boot from cd. After I got the cd menu it's stop working
[17:41] <XiaYixuan> is kubuntu ubuntu?
[17:41] <systemclient> Jim_: you mean the bootloader where you can select the various boot options and language?
[17:41] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: yes, but with KDE instead of Unity
[17:41] <XiaYixuan> kk
[17:41] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: try #kubuntu as well
[17:41] <Bier__> so how do i use the zsnes tar package i downloaded
[17:41] <McPeter> i install it on ubuntu server 12.04 … : Webalizer V2.01-10 (Linux 3.2.0-32-generic) locale: fr_FR.UTF-8
[17:41] <McPeter> but it's not in fr :\
[17:41] <Jim_> yes that bootloader
[17:41] <systemclient> Jim_: hmm … that is strange
[17:41] <XiaYixuan> ubuntu is only unity? no gnome anymore?
[17:42] <McPeter> XiaYixuan, Unity is on Gnome (3)
[17:42] <thelinux> Bier__: TRy this, go to software sources, other software tab, and check independent repositories if they aren't.
[17:42] <XiaYixuan> :(
[17:42] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: nope, the last version with Gnome 2 was 11.10 I think
[17:42] <XiaYixuan> kk
[17:42] <thelinux> yote: No problem.
[17:42] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: there is an Ubuntu Gnome Remix with Gnome 3
[17:42] <Jim_> First I have tried Ubuntu studio and there I got the same problem than in Ubuntu
[17:42] <McPeter> XiaYixuan, maybe you search Gnome-Panel or Gnome-Shell
[17:42] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: but you can just install gnome3 in regular Ubuntu
[17:42] <thelinux> Bier__: Check those independent from other sources, than sudo apt-gte update from terminal and try to install now.
[17:42] <XiaYixuan> if gnome is set to devastating then I don' t care
[17:43] <XiaYixuan> Kubuntu will be fine
[17:43] <kostkon> XiaYixuan, unity is a shell for gnome. unity is gnome
[17:43] <thelinux> systemclient: Ubuntu 11.04
[17:43] <XiaYixuan> I don't like the left side of unity
[17:43] <Bier__> theLinux: in that tab i see only a cd, probably my install cd
[17:43] <Bier__> for ubuntu
[17:43] <XiaYixuan> so cumbersome
[17:43] <Cong> unity is a plugin for compiz
[17:43] <McPeter> XiaYixuan, try Gnome-Xhell ..or Gnome-Panel
[17:43] <Bier__> and its checked
[17:43] <McPeter> Gnome-Panel same GUI for Gnome2
[17:44] <McPeter> s/Xhell/Shell
[17:44] <thelinux> XiaYixuan: If you don't like Unity, try MATE, it's fork of gnome 2.x.
[17:44] <XiaYixuan> thelinux, no thanks. I don't like old stuff that much
[17:44] <McPeter> just install gnome-panel if you search old interface
[17:45] <Jim_> I think it's my AMD APU that is the problem. Is Amd A8 4500m supported in ubuntu?
[17:45] <thelinux> XiaYixuan: It isn't old, it's constantly updating with a wide and large community.
[17:46] <dr_willis> of course the gmome fallback mode is set to get phased out in the future...
[17:46] <kostkon> thelinux, it is destined to die eventually, when all the major gtk2/gnome2 apps are converted to gtk3/gnome3
[17:47] <kostkon> will convert*
[17:47] <jrib> compdoc: sure, you can just define it there
[17:47] <dr_willis> for old school look. i use lxde
[17:47] <spindritf> can I put /var/run on a ramdisk (tmpfs)?
[17:47] <McPeter> any for weblizer ? :)
[17:47] <jrib> compdoc: assuming vnc4server likes /that/ file :)
[17:47] <thelinux> Bier__: You're missing repositories I guess.
[17:48] <systemclient> Jim_: maybe you have some luck here: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification
[17:48] <ghostconn>  12:10 will i loose all my setting and torrent downloading?
[17:48] <dr_willis> spindritf: i thought it allready was... let me look.
[17:48] <thelinux> kostkon: Not really. They plan to port it to Gtk3
[17:48] <ghostconn> by upgrading to 12:10 will i loose all my settings
[17:48] <Bier__> any way to fix that?
[17:49] <thelinux> ghostconn: No.
[17:49] <kostkon> thelinux, hmm ok
[17:49] <ghostconn> thank you
[17:49] <spindritf> dr_willis, not on my ubuntu 12.10 64bit install, I know I can move /tmp and /var/log to memory, but I also see /var/run being used by some apps a little too much
[17:49] <xangua> Bier__: you were already told it may be because you use 64bit and znes is only aviable for 32bit
[17:49] <dr_willis> my /run is on tmpfs here
[17:49] <ghostconn> 32bit sucks
[17:49] <thelinux> Bier__: Yes. You just need to add those missing repositories. I'll help you, let me check.
[17:50] <Bier__> yeah that could be xangua
[17:50] <thelinux> ghostconn: Why?
[17:50] <ghostconn> performance
[17:50] <ghostconn> multicore lol
[17:51] <Bier__> i think its 32 bit only
[17:51] <thelinux> Bier__: Go to software sources, other software tab, add source: deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main
[17:52] <dr_willis> i just installed   zsnes in 64 bit ubuntu
[17:52] <thelinux> dr_willis Bier__ He was missing other software repositories.
[17:52] <XiaYixuan> hi
[17:52] <XiaYixuan> doesn't work :(
[17:52] <crazydip> how do i play 3D HSBS video on Ubuntu?
[17:52] <XiaYixuan> usb-startup-gtk
[17:53] <XiaYixuan> usb-creator-gtk*
[17:53] <spindritf> dr_willis, you're right, /run is on tmpfs, my mistake
[17:53] <thelinux> XiaYixuan: Which version of ubuntu you have?
[17:53] <XiaYixuan> 12.04
[17:53] <XiaYixuan> the gui is different
[17:53] <thelinux> XiaYixuan: You can use unetbootin as alternative.
[17:53] <anhduc> dasdasdas
[17:53] <philux-Gevrey> bonsoir
[17:54] <philux-Gevrey> je cherche à monter ma galaxy tab 10.1 sur ubuntu 12.10
[17:54] <compdoc> jrib, this works: to .profile I added at the bottom:  PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin; export PATH
[17:54] <anhduc> can you speak vietnamese
[17:54] <philux-Gevrey> j'ai lu plusieurs trucs à ce sujet sur internet, mais la plupart sont assez vieux
[17:54] <thelinux> philux-Gevrey: English please.
[17:54] <SwedeMike> !fr
[17:54] <eager> hi all
[17:54] <philux-Gevrey> oh sorry
[17:54] <philux-Gevrey> Thought was ubuntu-fr ?
[17:54] <philux-Gevrey> I thought I was on ubuntu-fr
[17:54] <Bier__> theLinux: after that, it's still not found in software center, going to try with terminal now
[17:55] <thelinux> philux-Gevrey: #ubuntu-qc
[17:55] <lix> philus-Gevrey: t'as essaye http://galaxytabhacks.com/galaxy-tab-10-1-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-galaxy-tab-10-1-tabuntu/
[17:55] <philux-Gevrey> well, I stil can ask
[17:55] <eager> i'd like to access the system settings dialog (graphic) with root privileges. How can I do that?
[17:55] <Bier__> also nope
[17:55] <thelinux> Bier__: Do sudo apt-get update
[17:55] <eager> is there a terminal command?
[17:55] <ikonia> eager: why ?
[17:55] <philux-Gevrey> lix, merci/thanks
[17:55] <ikonia> eager: the parameters are normally per user
[17:55] <XiaYixuan> see ya
[17:55] <ikonia> !away > obli-AWAY
[17:56] <eager> I'm fighting the keybard layout chinese bug (12.04)
[17:56] <philux-Gevrey> lix, it's for hnoeycomb, not ICS
[17:56] <ikonia> eager: again, why do you need root for that ?
[17:56] <eager> ikonia: I'm fighting the keybard layout chinese bug (12.04)
[17:56] <ikonia> eager: keyboard layout is for a user
[17:56] <Bier__> theLinux: still no
[17:56] <lix> philus-Gevrey: I see. - let me check
[17:56] <doomlord> manually adding "PPA" ... what am i supposed to do with the signing key
[17:56] <ikonia> !ppa | doomlord
[17:57] <hilo> hello, I am trying to set up vsftp as a secure FTP server and was hoping to get a little direction. In particular, the general guide specifies enabling "chroot_local_user=YES" for security, but in the example conf file, it has a warning about potential risks of enabling that option. Can anyone shed some light here for me? Or point me in the direction of a more complete guide?
[17:57] <eager> ikonia: there is a minus sign for removing chinese language, but it's gray... I figured if I was root... maybe I could use it :)
[17:57] <lix> philux-Gevrey: you just want to mount the tab, not installing ubuntu on it, right?
[17:57] <philux-Gevrey> lix right
[17:57] <ikonia> eager: I don' think so
[17:58] <eager> ikonia: but I get the per user thing
[17:58] <eager> :(
[17:58] <philux-Gevrey> I can see it on nautilus, but not dl files from it
[17:58] <doomlord> i've thrown some extra lines into my sources list "deb http://ppa.launch......"  ; i did sudo-apt-get update, it says something about some signatures not being vrified NO_PUBKEY... there's "signing key" on the site tellimg me to do this, but no instrutction of what to do tiwht it
[17:58] <ikonia> hilo: what is the line
[17:58] <doomlord> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[17:58] <lix> philux-Gevrey: maybe this does help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146529/how-to-connect-mtp-devices-via-usb
[17:58] <doomlord> <trying to get GT640 working>
[17:58] <eager> ikonia: do anyone know how can I purge chinese locale?
[17:58] <hilo> ikonia, "chroot_local_user=YES"
[17:58] <ikonia> doomlord: did you read the link I gave you
[17:58] <hilo> ikonia, by default it is commented out.
[17:58] <doomlord> ah silly me
[17:59] <ikonia> hilo: so ?
[17:59] <doomlord> now i see something
[17:59] <philux-Gevrey> lix i'll check this thks
[17:59] <ikonia> hilo: uncomment it if you want to use it
[17:59] <lix> philux-Gevrey: and/or this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11561227
[17:59] <hilo> ikonia, "See the FAQ for
[17:59] <hilo> # the possible risks in this before using chroot_local_user"
[18:00] <ikonia> hilo: have you read the FAQ ?
[18:00] <thelinux> Bier__:  Go to that extracted zsnes download with terminal cd /location of zsnes/ than go to src, cd src, than "sudo ./configure", "sudo make", "sudo make install"
[18:00] <lix> philux-Gevrey: this also looks like a good blog article: https://technomagus.wordpress.com/mobile/phones/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000/samsung-galaxy-s-synchronization/
[18:01] <lix> philux-Gevrey: looks like you just need to mount as vfat
[18:01] <philux-Gevrey> sadly, gmpt freeze on my laptop
[18:01] <eager> boys, any idea how to __purge chinese locale__ ? (12.04)
[18:01] <hilo> ikonia, Yes, and all I see is something about symlinks
[18:01] <ikonia> hilo: ok, so there you go
[18:03] <dr_willis> Bier__:  my sources.list that had zsnes -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1351277/
[18:04] <dr_willis> unless im confused and it came from a ppa. ;)
[18:04] <eager> boys, where can I erase CHINESE locale's dictionaries?
[18:05] <dr_willis> chrooting can break symlinks, or symlinks could let you get out of a chroot... ;) perhaps  hilo
[18:05] <eager> I get lots of chinese (12.04)
[18:05] <Bier__> theLinux: deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main
[18:05] <Bier__> oops
[18:05] <Bier__> wrong text
[18:05] <Bier__> configure error: you need NASM install to compile zsnes
[18:06] <eager> keyboard layout settings is buggy, but as a workaround I'd like to purge chinese dictionaries, so it falls back to English
[18:06] <eager> please
[18:07] <viki> Newa: hi.....my vi editor is not working properly
[18:07] <dr_willis> Bier__:  so install nasm?
[18:07] <thelinux> eager: system settings, language support. You can delete it from there buddy.
[18:07] <dr_willis> !find nasm
[18:07] <dr_willis> Bier__:  or try my sources.list
[18:07] <zykotick9> viki: install vim, if you want arrow keys to work ;)
[18:08] <dr_willis> vim tiny  vs vim 'full' differances. ;)
[18:08] <Bier__> i wll try your list dr_willis
[18:08] <viki> zykotick9:  what about backspace
[18:08] <zykotick9> viki: try vim ;)
[18:08] <thelinux> eager: Did that work?
[18:09] <viki> zykotick9: ok ....thanx for suggestion .....i am going to try it...
[18:09] <eager> thelinux: I can't, since it has not checked: nothing to uncheck (it is a known bug)
[18:09] <dr_willis> i dont recall needing to install vim/vim-full in ages on a new install.
[18:09] <thelinux> Bier__: sudo apt-get install nasm. And try to compile again zsnes.
[18:10] <Bier__> i dont understand what to do with that list
[18:10] <hilo> dr_willis, thanks. How do I use the nopriv_user to lock this down? If I create a new user, what do I need to do to make sure it is safely unprivileged
[18:10] <eager> thelinux: only English and Hungarian are checked, therefore I cannot remove one from chinese's
[18:10] <Bier__> ah i typed NASM instead of nasm
[18:11] <Bier__> installing now
[18:11] <dr_willis> hilo:  no idea. i dont bother with chrooting to lock them down
[18:12] <dr_willis> i bet zsnes will need more stuff installed to compile properly
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: zsnes is in the playdeb repo....
[18:12] <stephelton> i need to install a recent version of lightdm on 12.04. currently lightdm version 1.2.1 is available via apt-get. i'm told the version I want (1.4.0) is available in Quantal. what's the easiest way to obtain the later version?
[18:12] <viki> zykotick9: what command should i use to enter in editor mode in vim
[18:12] <dr_willis> stephelton:  why do you need a newer version?
[18:12] <zykotick9> viki: i?
[18:13] <dr_willis> !info vim-tutor
[18:13] <stephelton> dr_willis: vim --help will tell you... or man vim
[18:13] <dr_willis> hmm.. what is that vi tutor program...
[18:13] <stephelton> dr_willis: er wrong person. i need a bug fix
[18:13] <MasterOfDisaster> hi, I'd like to use Terminus as my terminal's (KDE's konsole) font. The option 'draw intense colors in bold font' doesn't have any effect on Terminus, despite it having a bold variant. Other fonts respect this, Any idea why?
[18:14] <dr_willis> stephelton:  best way sould to see if its in backports or find a ppa
[18:14] <viki> zykotick9:  no...i meant to say ...as we use vi...in vi editor ...is same in vim
[18:14] <MasterOfDisaster> system in question runs ubuntu 12.04
[18:14] <stephelton> dr_willis: can i use quantal ppa? if not, i might as well just compile from source...
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:14] <viki> how to enter in vim editor
[18:14] <MasterOfDisaster> viki: press 'i'
[18:14] <zykotick9> viki: once you install vim, then typing both vi and vim will most likely start the same thing.
[18:14] <dr_willis> stephelton:  not a good idea to mix release repos
[18:15] <keyur> Please some one help me with ssh
[18:15] <keyur> :(
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: are you wanting zsnes?
[18:15] <MasterOfDisaster> viki: hitting ESC exits insert mode
[18:15] <stephelton> dr_willis: not a good idea to mix any non-standard repos IMO
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> keyur: what is the issue?
[18:15] <MasterOfDisaster> keyur: elaborate
[18:15] <zykotick9> dr_willis: vimtutor appears to be part of vim-runtime package
[18:15] <keyur> i m having access to one server
[18:15] <dr_willis> ah no dash ;)
[18:15] <Bier__> theLinux installing nasm gets met: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab
[18:15] <stephelton> dr_willis: can i convince the system to pull a single package from the quantal repo?
[18:15] <keyur> which is based on rsa public key authenication
[18:15] <Bier__> ActionParsnip: not per se, i just want to play snes roms :p
[18:15] <dr_willis> stephelton:  i dont think so
[18:15] <keyur> so i given them my public key
[18:16] <keyur> and now when i m joining
[18:16] <Bier__> theLinux: and the sub-proc
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: then you'll need an emulator, what is the output of the command please
[18:16] <keyur> it says
[18:16] <keyur> Permission denied (publickey).
[18:16] <stephelton> dr_willis: the annoying thing is that this newer version will probably be available in 12.04 in a matter of days... \=
[18:16] <keyur> :(
[18:16] <keyur> could some one help me please
[18:16] <keyur> :(
[18:16] <Bier__> theLinux sub-process /ussr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
[18:16] <MasterOfDisaster> keyur: can you use password authentication?
[18:16] <viki> zykotick9: but  when i type vi..than i'll enter in vi editor
[18:16] <dr_willis> still not sure why Bier__  repos dont include zsnes..
[18:16] <keyur> no :(
[18:16] <Bier__> actionparsnip: quantal
[18:16] <keyur> there is no password authenication
[18:17] <Bier__> dr_willis: what do i do with that list?
[18:17] <MasterOfDisaster> keyur: are you sure your ssh-agent is sending the correct key?
[18:17] <keyur> yes
[18:17] <zykotick9> viki: when you type "vim" is there a VIM - Vi IMproved splash screen?
[18:17] <dr_willis> Bier__:  its my /etc/apt/sources.list   compare it to yours
[18:17] <keyur> could come on private chat
[18:17] <MasterOfDisaster> keyur: debugged it yet with ssh -vv?
[18:17] <keyur> so i could explain you better
[18:17] <MasterOfDisaster> keyur: ok
[18:18] <dr_willis> Bier__:  or rename yours and copy mine over. then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, then sudo apt-get install zsnes
[18:18] <dr_willis> upgrade may not be needed. ;) update is...
[18:19] <dr_willis> as far as i know thats a default 12.10 sources.list
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo apt-get update
[18:19] <rickb> hey can i ask a generic linux question?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: then run:   sudo apt-get install bsnes
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> rickb: as long as its ubuntu related, yes
[18:20] <rickb> can someone tell me the string i'd have to use to rename files with a  _1 before hte file extension? i want to make something like FL123TS_1.jpg to just FL123TS.jpg
[18:20] <rickb> :3
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: after you add that ppa (via the deb) you can install apps using the buttons on the playdeb site
[18:21] <rickb> ActionParsnip: right above, didn't hilight you sry.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> rickb: I'd ask in #bash
[18:21] <hilo> How do I create an unprivileged user to run applications in chroot jail?
[18:21] <dr_willis> gotta love web apt: urls
[18:21] <rickb> ah ok
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> rickb: or there is a rename app in the repos (if memory serves)
[18:21] <ikonia> hilo: you just create a non-root user
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: handy :)
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: its how I got urban terror
[18:22] <dr_willis> hilo:  why do you need to go the extra step of a chroot jail?
[18:22] <rickb> ActionParsnip: ah yeah i can do the stuff locally but its on a remote serer
[18:22] <rickb> server
[18:22] <hilo> dr_willis, I am creating an internet facing FTP server and and don't want to leave any open doors
[18:23] <dr_willis> rickb:  i tend to use 'qmv' from the rename-utils package. but its a bit more complex then what you need. but its handy
[18:23] <jpds> hilo: Then, remove FTP.
[18:23] <ikonia> jpds: bravo
[18:23] <rickb> cool
[18:23] <hilo> lulz jpds
[18:23] <dr_willis> a ftp user dosent run apps... or am i missing somthing
[18:23] <hilo> The goal is to have it FTPS (FTP over SSL)
[18:23] <yon_> hello out there
[18:24] <hilo> Can you suggest a better option?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> rickb: its the same on a server
[18:24] <dr_willis> ssh/sftp?
[18:24] <hilo> dr_willis, ssh/sftp requires users with shell access. Isn't that a way way bigger security risk?
[18:24] <jpds> hilo: No bigger security risk than FTP.
[18:25] <dr_willis> hilo:  theres ways to  have sftp only users i belive.
[18:25] <hilo> dr_willis, I read that FTPS was better because users can be given nologin shell
[18:25] <dr_willis> with no shell access
[18:25] <ikonia> hilo: that has nothing to do with ftps, ftp servers can do that
[18:27] <rickb> ah ok
[18:27] <dr_willis> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/
[18:28] <Bier__> actionparsnip: after install bsnes i get: /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: is that when trying to install the bsnes package?
[18:28] <redhogs91> ciao
[18:28] <redhogs91> !lista
[18:28] <hilo> dr_willis, ikonia, is there any kind of guide or howto?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[18:28] <Bier__> yes
[18:28] <redhogs91> sorry
[18:29] <Bier__> dr_willis: i dont have permission to edit the sources.list
[18:29] <yon_> speak english
[18:29] <dr_willis> what? an actual reply from a caio !list er? ;) how rare
[18:29] <ikonia> yes, we speak English
[18:29] <VlanX> very bad bug found causing SSD death!  gnome-settings-daemon writes 20Mbps to the disk for no reason in 12.10, please ack!
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: are there bugs reportd?
[18:29] <jpds> VlanX: Sounds like a problem only affecting you.
[18:29] <ikonia> VlanX: please ack ?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: does the apt-get -f install make it ok?
[18:30] <VlanX> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?20377-Truly-bad-gnome-settings-daemon-pulseaudio-causing-laptop-HDD-death
[18:30] <ikonia> VlanX: is that you posting that ?
[18:30] <VlanX> nope
[18:30] <Bier__> actionparsnip: unable to lock the administration directory
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Bier__
[18:30] <jpds> VlanX: Dude, that's for Fedora.
[18:30] <zatan>  Hey can anyone advised me how can I fix this issue with maximize window? http://i.imgur.com/fiBT5.png  the bottom window is not maximised as he suppost to
[18:30] <ikonia> VlanX: then why are you quoting it ? is it affecting you ?
[18:30] <jpds> VlanX: Please don't spread FUD/nonsense.
[18:31] <VlanX> jpds: it's the same problem
[18:31] <ikonia> fedora 11 ???
[18:31] <ikonia> VlanX: how do you know ?
[18:31] <ikonia> VlanX: is this problem affecting you ?
[18:31] <Bier__> actionparsnip: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[18:31] <VlanX> ikonia: yes it is, i killed the process and all went ok
[18:31] <dr_willis> ikonia:  ;) i stopped reading after it mentioned fedora and head parking
[18:32] <ikonia> VlanX: "all went ok" what symptoms where you seeing
[18:32] <jpds> VlanX: Has your disk died on 12.10?
[18:32] <ikonia> VlanX: you need to explain the issue
[18:32] <dr_willis> Bier__:  be sure software center and other apps are closed
[18:32] <ikonia> VlanX: the issue YOU are seeing
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: or reboot
[18:33] <VlanX> ikonia: i'm using Gkrellm so i saw 20 mbps writes to my ssd that were going on since i don't know when
[18:33] <jpds> VlanX: Hmm.
[18:33] <VlanX> and the cause was this process gone crazy
[18:33] <dr_willis> isent that thread dated 2009?
[18:33] <ikonia> VlanX: if you are genuinly concerned about it, monitor with iostat, and log a bug agaist it
[18:33] <ikonia> dr_willis: yes, hence why I suspect it's not happening
[18:33] <dr_willis> ;)
[18:34] <VlanX> ikonia: so why as soon as i killed  gnome-settings-daemon it suddently stopped?
[18:34] <VlanX> why is it doing that in the first place?
[18:34] <ikonia> VlanX: do what I suggested
[18:35] <VlanX> ok
[18:36] <VlanX> ikonia: can i also kill a process with iostat if it exceedes some threshold of cpu utilization or hdd wirtes?
[18:36] <ikonia> VlanX: no
[18:36] <bekks> No.
[18:36] <ikonia> VlanX: cpu utilizaion ???? where did that come from, you said hard disk writes a minute ago
[18:37] <VlanX> ikonia: do you think that i could realize which process it was if it didn't also chomp half of the CPU time?
[18:37] <ikonia> VlanX: so now it's eating disk and cpu time
[18:37] <yon_> ubuntu sucks
[18:38] <ikonia> yon_: do'nt use it
[18:38] <VlanX> ikonia: i couldn't care less about the cpu, but i'm concerned about SSD writes
[18:38] <yon_> i cant
[18:38] <ikonia> VlanX:
[18:38] <jpds> VlanX: Better turn off your computer then...
[18:38] <bekks> VlanX: Why? Isnt a SSD designed to write things, too?
[18:39] <yon_> i cant that too
[18:39] <bekks> VlanX: If so, mount the FS read-only...
[18:39] <doomlord> anyone here got a gt640 or similar working in ubuntu?
[18:39] <doomlord> for compiz (it works in ubuntu2d)
[18:39] <VlanX> bekks: two hours of continuous SSD wirtes @ 20mbps? have fun with that
[18:39] <bekks> VlanX: Works for years here, currently.
[18:39] <bekks> VlanX: I have much more constant writes here, when doing things.
[18:40] <akashj87> Hi All ... My corporate setup has some issues with SSLCipherSuite and cookie generation ....can this stuff be discussed in this channel ?
[18:40] <VlanX> bekks:  well, pardon me but i would prefer not having useless ssd activity going on in the background
[18:40] <bekks> VlanX: My activity is usefull... like deploying VMs massively, etc.
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: if you make a fresh user, is it ok there?
[18:40] <jpds> VlanX: Find out what's causing that activity and please don't spread FUD about something you don't know what you're talking about.
[18:41] <jpds> VlanX: 20Mbps is not normal behaviour, on an SSD or HDD.
[18:41] <yon_> i hate ubuntu
[18:41] <bekks> VlanX: So whats causing your I/O then?
[18:41] <dr_willis> iostat is not showing anything odd here.
[18:41] <VlanX>  bekks: gnome-settings-daemon like i told
[18:41] <MasterOfDisaster> akashj87: well, it's your discretion not to spill any information that could be used against you or your corp. so, sure, go ahead.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: if you make a fresh user, is it ok there?
[18:42] <yon_> hey ikonia u didnt as me why i hated ubuntu
[18:42] <bekks> VlanX: Tried using a fresh user or using another desktop environment?
[18:42] <Bier__> ok thank you all i will reboot now, but then i have to cook so i will try later
[18:42] <MasterOfDisaster> akashj87: although, if you think it is not ubuntu-specific, you'd perhaps be better off in ##linux
[18:42] <ikonia> yon_: not interested, stop now
[18:42] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: i don't know it just happened
[18:43] <dr_willis> VlanX:  you have searched the bug reports?
[18:43] <VlanX> dr_willis: i'm doing that right now
[18:44] <akashj87> sure ty MasterOfDisaster
[18:44] <jpds> VlanX: Does it regularly happen?
[18:44] <VlanX> jpds: i hope not, maybe it did but i don't have any track of that
[18:44] <VlanX> i was just lucky to notice
[18:44] <ikonia> VlanX: just VlanX http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1351389/
[18:45] <bekks> VlanX: So it didnt happen for hours now, correct?
[18:45] <jpds> VlanX: Then it could of just been a one-off thing.
[18:45] <VlanX> bekks: it did because i noticed the red led of hdd activity some hours ago, but didn't bother looking what it was
[18:46] <yon_> ubuntu doesnt work well with iphones
[18:46] <fay> lol no shit sherlock ^
[18:46] <bekks> yon_: It works well, here.
[18:46] <ikonia> yon_: linux doesn't work well with iphones, nothing ubuntu can do about it
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: run:  sudo adduser testy      set a password for testy, log off and then log in as testy from the login screen. Is it the same?
[18:46] <ikonia> fay: the language is unaccetable, please stop
[18:46] <ikonia> VlanX: I'm monitoring my disk and not seeing any activity
[18:47] <yon_> what tool does it have
[18:47] <ikonia> 1iphone | yon_
[18:47] <ikonia> !iphone | yon_
[18:47] <VlanX> ActionParsnip, ikonia, i'm not telling it happens as soon as you log on your account, just happened randomly without m eeven doing anything.  Maybe just remote desktop, that's all
[18:47] <yon_> not music or something else i am talking about the root filesystem cydia apps
[18:48] <ikonia> VlanX: I've been logged in for approx 4 hours now
[18:48] <ikonia> yon_: the iphone is locked to non-apple managment, so please stop wasting time with this dribble
[18:48] <ikonia> yon_: this is your last warning.
[18:48] <fay> yon_, is your ipod jailbroken? if yes, use ssh to access those files
[18:49] <bekks> 0
[18:49] <bekks> sorry.
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: but this is your original account with your settings...right?
[18:49] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: yes it is
[18:50] <yon_> fuse doesnt work correctly on linux
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: so, if your settings are causing the issue, making a fresh user with default zero settings will test that, won't it
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: then we will know if it is actually the application itself, or some setting you have that is causing the issue
[18:50] <fay> ikonia, you need to relax a little...this is irc...not congress
[18:51] <dr_willis> fuse has always worked well for me.
[18:51] <ikonia> fay: please concern yourself with your own behaviour
[18:51] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: but if it happened just for 2 hours in 7 days uptime, at least afaik, how can i troubleshoot that?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: you need to explore the situatoin, see what makes it happen and not happen
[18:51] <fay> ikonia: wasnt aware i was misbehaving, some one asked a question, i answered
[18:51] <ubuntuaddicted> is there an equivalent to the disk utility for a headless server?
[18:52] <ikonia> fay: I didn't say you where misbehaving
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: what do you want to achieve?
[18:52] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: iotop, du
[18:52] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, i want to keep on an eye on a hard drive bad sector count
[18:52] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: it might be remote desktop, however, how can i know which files was it writing?  with iostat?
[18:52] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: then use smartctl
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: or:  lsof
[18:52] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, smartmontools isn't working
[18:52] <fay> ubuntuaddicted: just ssh into that box with X forwarding and run disk utility from there
[18:52] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, it isn't working
[18:53] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: "isnt working" means?=
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: if it has ANY, I'd just replace it
[18:53] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, it states Error Counter logging not supported and Device does not support Self Test logging
[18:53] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: So it works perfectly.
[18:53] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: Your drive does not support those features then.
[18:53] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, it's only 2 years old, 1TB drive
[18:54] <fay> so?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: then it's under warranty more than likely
[18:54] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, then how does disk utility get it's info?
[18:54] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, I guess I should look into that. It has 379 bad sectors
[18:54] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: Error counter logging is irrelevant for the bad sector count.
[18:54] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: Just use smartctl -a
[18:54] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, what smartctl command to run then?
[18:54] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, that reports the same thing
[18:55] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: 379 bad sectors? Throw it away, honestly.
[18:55] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, smartctl -a shows SMART Health Status: OK
[18:55] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: And...?
[18:56] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: You have bad sectors. Replace that drive.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: yikes, definately take that back
[18:56] <toastcfh> hi
[18:56] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, bekks ok, thanks for the input
[18:57] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, bekks i just thought there was a smartctl command I could run that showed the same thing that disk utility showed
[18:57] <ikonia> VlanX: I've just remote desktop'ed into my own machine and see no difference
[18:58] <VlanX> ikonia: i used it too in the past and it happened only now
[19:00] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, bekks can you run sudo badblocks -v /dev/sde when the drive is mounted?
[19:00] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: You can, but you should not... you have chances to frag your filesystem entirely.
[19:01] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, okm thanks
[19:01] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: you know it has problems....send it back
[19:01] <ikonia> why are you making this hard
[19:01] <roach_sa> login roach_sa
[19:01] <doomlord> can anyone confirm if they have a geforce 640 or similar card working with ubuntu (12.10 install process did advise me not to :( but i'm seeing ppa patches etc around)
[19:01] <roach_sa> oops wrong place
[19:01] <roach_sa> :(
[19:01] <ikonia> doomlord: follow the insall processs
[19:02] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, trouble is, it came within an iomega nas box and I took it out and put it within a usb external enclosure so I voided warrenty
[19:02] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: right, so back it up and bin it the
[19:02] <ikonia> the
[19:02] <ikonia> then
[19:02] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: apply common sense.....it has a problem, the more manpipulation you do with it, the great the risk of data loss
[19:02] <ikonia> why is it always like pulling teeth with you
[19:03] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, yeah, i guess but i thought you could mark bad blocks as unusable and if the bad sector count doesn't rise then its ok to use
[19:03] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: Totally wrong.
[19:03] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: it's got a fault
[19:03] <ubuntuaddicted> 379 bad sectors on a 1TB drive isn't that many i didn't think
[19:04] <bekks> Thats 379 bad blocks to much.,
[19:04] <bekks> Replace that drive.
[19:04] <ubuntuaddicted> k, thanks guys.
[19:06] <patr|ck> hello. i changed with compizconfig-settings-manager the values for "horizontal virtual size" and for "vertical" desktop size from "2" to "3" but the changes wont take effect. not even after a reboot. why?
[19:07] <endguy> patr|ck: Maybe it's not an effect you can "see"
[19:07] <patr|ck> this "effect" allows me to have 9 instead of 4 virtual desktops to switch from/to
[19:07] <dr_willis> for the number of desktops? dosent unity need it to be square
[19:07] <lacrymology> how do i list the files in a deb package? particuarily, I want to know what's the binary that gets installed from calibre-bin
[19:08] <patr|ck> here on the laptop i have 3x2
[19:08] <patr|ck> errr
[19:08] <patr|ck> 3x3
[19:08] <endguy> dr_willis: You have a point :-)
[19:08] <dr_willis> isent there a     X x Y   setting?)
[19:08] <patr|ck> but lets try 4x4
[19:08] <louiemat> how do you share folders (documents) from another system on the same computer- thanks in advance
[19:08] <endguy> TRY IT FOR SCIENCE!
[19:09] <patr|ck> negative, 3x3 or 4x4 makes no difference
[19:09] <ikonia> please stop
[19:09] <dr_willis> louiemat: what os on each system
[19:09] <louiemat> 12.04 ubuntu
[19:09] <lacrymology> it's not science unless it leaves a crater
[19:09] <dr_willis> louiemat: samba. ssh. sshfs. nfs
[19:09] <louiemat> and the other is pinguy os
[19:09] <VlanX> ikonia: so i can run iostat against a specific process?
[19:09] <ikonia> no
[19:09] <hypernova> Choose either the 12.10 release for all the latest software
[19:09] <hypernova> or 12.04.1 LTS for long-term support.
[19:10] <hypernova> which one?
[19:10] <ikonia> whichever one YOU want
[19:10] <bekks> hypernova: Your choice...
[19:10] <hypernova> should I choose :S
[19:10] <ikonia> whichever one YOU want
[19:10] <endguy> patr|ck: Have you tried checking the logs?
[19:10] <dr_willis> flip a coin
[19:10] <hypernova> long term support sounds good
[19:10] <patr|ck> endguy, for what?
[19:10] <hypernova> :S
[19:10] <ikonia> then pick that one
[19:10] <hypernova> ok thanks
[19:10] <endguy> comiz, xsession, etc...
[19:10] <hypernova> :)
[19:11] <ikonia> hypernova: have you done ANY research into them ?
[19:11] <endguy> compiz*
[19:11] <hypernova> no ikonia
[19:11] <ikonia> hypernova: come on ???
[19:11] <hypernova> :S
[19:11] <endguy> look for errors
[19:11] <VlanX> hypernova: unless you have an ivey-bridge cpu
[19:11] <endguy> debugging is an important skill if you want to successfully use linux
[19:11] <VlanX> s/ivey/ivy
[19:11] <hypernova> i dunno that
[19:11] <ikonia> hypernova: "I've done no research, and know nothing about either platform, random group of strangers tell me what I should use without any information"
[19:11] <hypernova> :S
[19:11] <ikonia> hypernova: how about do some research into the operating systems YOU want to use and make an educated decision
[19:12] <dr_willis> 13.04  ;-)
[19:12] <TuxLof> lol
[19:12] <hypernova> ok ikonia
[19:12] <hypernova> :S
[19:12] <ikonia> and stop doing :S
[19:12] <OpenSorce> lol
[19:12] <dr_willis> hypernova: i imagine eithet will do you fine
[19:12] <louiemat> dr_willis I'm a newbe could you tell me step  by step - sorry for the inconveniance
[19:12] <hypernova> :S ok
[19:12] <TuxLof> :S
[19:12] <ikonia> unwise
[19:12] <endguy> ikonia: stop being such a nazi
[19:12] <ikonia> endguy: please don't call me a nzai
[19:13] <ikonia> nazi
[19:13] <endguy> facist?
[19:13] <Tm_T> endguy: I would kindly ask you to behave
[19:13] <ikonia> endguy: don't call people names
[19:13] <dr_willis> louiemat: samba. ssh. sshfs. nfs   look them up. sshfs would be the easiest to setup.
[19:13] <patr|ck> nope, nothing in the logs about ccsm
[19:13] <hypernova> i want ubuntu to use free xchat
[19:13] <dr_willis> louiemat: samba is also ysed for windows.
[19:13] <TuxLof> http://forum-img.pinside.com/pinball/forum/?bb_attachments=319295&bbat=34923&inline
[19:13] <ikonia> hypernova: that's your whole requirement
[19:13] <endguy> patr|ck: it may not be called ccsm
[19:13] <doomlord> gt640.. hmmm. the nvidia card works. the opengl acceleration works (i can compile and run my own GL apps). its just compiz.
[19:13] <bekks> hypernova: Then install it, and use it.
[19:14] <doomlord> i've been through 2 ppa guides. maybe it just doesn't work with compiz, still.
[19:14] <hypernova> lulz
[19:14] <dr_willis> hypernova: there is xchat for free for windows
[19:14] <OpenSorce> hypernova, you can do that in Windows
[19:14] <louiemat> thanks Dr willis
[19:14] <fay> ikonia: why dont you chill alittle, irc gets off topic and rude sometimes, but shocker .... lol its okay
[19:14] <endguy> patr|ck: pastebin a copy of ~/.xsession-errors
[19:14] <ikonia> fay: no, it's not
[19:14] <ikonia> !guidelines > fay
[19:14] <Tm_T> fay: this is strictly support channel (:
[19:14] <ikonia> fay: please check the guidelines for using the ubuntu channel
[19:15] <dr_willis> xchat silverx  i think is a free xchat for windows
[19:15] <hypernova> OpenSorce : xchat for window is paid
[19:15] <ikonia> dr_willis: it's free
[19:15] <hypernova> shareware
[19:15] <ikonia> there is a paid update to make the license popup go away
[19:15] <fay> or theres irssi
[19:15] <fay> witch is very free
[19:15] <patr|ck> hmmm
[19:15] <TuxLof> irssi is great
[19:15] <dr_willis> hypernova: theres free variants of xchat for windows
[19:15] <ikonia> fay: for windows....really
[19:15] <endguy> irssi <3
[19:15] <KM0201> yeah... never understood why it's a free app on linux, but shareware on windows.
[19:16] <fay> cygwin
[19:16] <cnap> hello could someone help me improving a simple bash script ?
[19:16] <hypernova> anyways
[19:16] <OpenSorce> KM0201, It isn't shareware, you aren't buying the app you are paying them to compile it for you
[19:16] <hypernova> thanks
[19:16] <hypernova> all
[19:16] <cnap> I know this isnt the proper channel to do so
[19:16] <KM0201> ok
[19:16] <ikonia> cnap: then don't ask
[19:16] <ikonia> use the proper channel
[19:16] <cnap> is there any ?
[19:16] <dr_willis> last i looked tgere were like 5 variants if xchat for windows. official is shareware   others were free
[19:17] <endguy> cnap: I'm sure there are people here who could, but you'd get better luck #bash
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: try hydrairc, its free
[19:17] <bekks> cnap: #bash :)
[19:17] <cnap> thanks guys :)
[19:17] <green91> im partial to bitchx
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: or pidgin
[19:17] <patr|ck> i just noticed that it installed unity-2d - maybe due to the slow hardware
[19:17] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, I use Xchat on Ubunut 12.04 I'm good
[19:17] <KM0201> ugg, pidgin for irc?
[19:17] <patr|ck> so that stupid thing does not even use compiz
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: i thought you wanted a windows client
[19:17] <patr|ck> oh no!!
[19:18] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, thanks again for the breakfast advice this morning :-)
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: hehe
[19:18] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: it was another user, he's left
[19:18] <patr|ck> o m g
[19:18] <endguy> patr|ck: indeed. i'm not sure unity-2d supports all the fancy stuff... i honestly think unity sucks and prefer GNOME
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: thanks
[19:18] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, no, some guy was saying he wanted Ubuntu to get free Xchat we were telling him it's free for Windows too
[19:18] <patr|ck> yeah, i am tempted to trash it and install Ubuntu 10.04 instead
[19:18] <endguy> patr|ck: why?
[19:19] <patr|ck> to get a real gnome
[19:19] <VlanX> ikonia: can i make a script that kills this process if it reaches some cpu util threshold?  since this bug only takes places if the cpu % rises, it would be quite easy to prevent that.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> patr|ck: could install xubuntu 12.10
[19:19] <endguy> that seems a bit extreem
[19:19] <endguy> extreme*
[19:19] <endguy> patr|ck: apt-get install gnome-shell
[19:19] <ikonia> VlanX: you could right something like that,
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> patr|ck: its made using gtk and doesnt have unity
[19:19] <patr|ck> endguy, lets try that
[19:19] <endguy> select gnome classic before login
[19:19] <blackscaro> hi how to reset config for bt5
[19:19] <VlanX> ikonia: right?
[19:19] <patr|ck> ActionParsnip, aha. hmmm
[19:20] <ikonia> VlanX: what do you mean "right ?"
[19:20] <bekks> !backtrack | blackscaro
[19:20] <VlanX> ikonia: it's you that said so...
[19:20] <endguy> ActionParsnip: I'm pretty sure that same feature is available in Ubuntu 12.10
[19:20] <ikonia> VlanX: I siad so what ?
[19:20] <endguy> ActionParsnip: gdm
 VlanX: you could right something like that,
[19:20] <VlanX> did u mean write?
[19:20] <ikonia> oops
[19:20] <anastasya> Ubuntu 9.10 \n \l
[19:20] <ikonia> VlanX: yes, you could right something like that
[19:20] <ikonia> yes, sorry, typo
[19:20] <ikonia> "write"
[19:20] <VlanX> k :)
[19:21] <ikonia> sorr
[19:21] <ikonia> sorry
[19:21] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:21] <dr_willis> write it the right way even
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> endguy: i believe it uses lightdm, like ubuntu does
[19:21] <endguy> ActionParsnip: Not any longer, you can pick between lightdm and gdm
[19:22] <patr|ck> thanks a lot, guys!
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> endguy: at install time?
[19:22] <ikonia> VlanX: I'm pushing my cpu up to %10 - %15 usage, and still seeing no difference (sustained usage)
[19:22] <endguy> ActionParsnip: I was able to pick at upgrade time ;-)
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> endguy: ahh upgrade, not install :)
[19:23] <endguy> ActionParsnip: you can simply run dpkg-reconfigure gdm to be given a choice of what desktop manager to use
[19:24] <endguy> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-switch-between-gdm-lightdm-or.html <-- as stated there
[19:24] <VlanX> ikonia: using iostat i realized that process was writing 9GB per hour, presumibly the same blocks over and over again... :(  Since that process wend at >20% when it did so, i could make a script that could kill it since there is no reason it would even take up to 1% cpu.
[19:24] <ikonia> VlanX: iostat doesn't show you how many GB per hour it's writing
[19:24] <ikonia> VlanX: it's also not historical
[19:24] <ikonia> VlanX: I think you are not being honest as you are telling me you are using tools to do things that are not possible
[19:25] <VlanX> ikonia: ok, but with gkrellm i did know the mbps that it was taking
[19:25] <ikonia> and at that point I'll back away
[19:25] <Mattsyco> hey all, just had something weird happen with my system.  It locked up after going to sleep and when I cycled power to get it back on, it was mirroring the desktop on both screens and would not change back to an extended screen.  Now I am getting these blinking dashes along the top of the one remaining working screen.
[19:25] <ikonia> VlanX: you are telling me lies about what you are doing - I am done with this sicussion
[19:25] <ikonia> discussion
[19:25] <patr|ck> oh - and how do i enable that gnome-shell is used instead of unity-2d?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> patr|ck: install it, log off. select the new session
[19:25] <endguy> patr|ck: here again, you can run dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[19:26] <patr|ck> thank you!
[19:26] <VlanX> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1351491/
[19:26] <ikonia> VlanX: sorry, I didn't make myself clear, I am done with this disussuion after you have told me lies
[19:26] <dr_willis> the  login manager shouldent matter for that
[19:26] <patr|ck> endguy, gdm is not installed
[19:27] <endguy> you must install it then
[19:27] <VlanX> ikonia: lies about what? i hope you're joking!
[19:27] <endguy> patr|ck: did you install gnome-shell?
[19:27] <dr_willis> lightdm can start gneme-shell
[19:27] <VlanX> ikonia: please see the pastebin
[19:27] <patr|ck> endguy, yes sir
[19:27] <endguy> patr|ck: you're using 12.10, yes?
[19:27] <ikonia> VlanX: I am done with this discussion after you've told me lies
[19:27] <patr|ck> no, no. i am using 12.04
[19:27] <patr|ck> sorry if i did not make this clear
[19:28] <endguy> patr|ck: ok, then just logout and then select your session to be either gnome or gnome classic and log back in
[19:28] <patr|ck> oki doki
[19:29] <patr|ck> now i get it what the tiny little symbol is for :D
[19:29] <endguy> :-)
[19:30] <dr_willis> they really need to make it mire ibvious
[19:30] <dr_willis> obvious
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: little bitr
[19:30] <dr_willis> theres plenty of room
[19:30] <patr|ck> they could use the entire sreen!
[19:30] <patr|ck> screen even
[19:30] <dr_willis> with animated desktop previews
[19:30] <patr|ck> but on the other side - its for mobile devices aswell, right?
[19:31] <dr_willis> ;-)
[19:31] <dr_willis> patr|ck: thats a ways off i thi k
[19:31] <pullco3> coujouland
[19:31]  * patr|ck hugs Ubuntu either way
[19:32] <dr_willis> little bitty buttons on mobile devices.. is annoying
[19:32] <jace_> Here's an idea, they should make it so if you click on Xchat for instance in the Launcher it minimizes it.
[19:33] <MmikeT_> How to find out what option installer gives to mkfs.ext4 when creating ext4 partitions on SSDs?
[19:33] <dr_willis> dosent minimize apps by  design .... jace_
[19:34] <dr_willis> run 4 xchat windows and it spreads them out
[19:34] <jace_> i see that but it should :) dr_willis
[19:35] <dr_willis> minimizing is old school thinking.
[19:35] <dr_willis> just select the app you want to use
[19:35] <kostkon> jace_, install xchat-indicator. You'll be able then to close xchat and bring it up again from the msging menu.
[19:35] <jace_> ok kostkon
[19:35] <kostkon> jace_, jsut an idea
[19:36] <endguy> alrighty, i've got to get back to modeling circuits using differential equations with complex solutions. y'all be good!
[19:36] <jace_> application launch time seems to be an issue, i'm waiting on software center to popup...
[19:37] <dr_willis> i just use synaptic ;-)
[19:37] <kostkon> jace_, usc is always the slowest app in a vanilla ubuntu installation
[19:37] <dclist> My sound hasn't been working today. Anything I can try?
[19:38] <jCuber> dclist, You should be a bit more precise than that
[19:38] <dclist> jCuber: What info do you need?
[19:38] <dclist> alsamixer: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> dclist: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds then reboot
[19:39] <dclist> ActionParsnip: No way to do it without reboot?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> dclist: might remake the files without a reboot. try it. pulseaudio should automatically restart and regenerate the file and folder
[19:40] <jace_> I had trouble with sound crackling and popping when I had flash installed, so I removed it and just watch html5 video controls.  I don't recommend flash anymoe.
[19:40] <jCuber> dclist, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=123447
[19:40] <njin> Hallo there's a launchpad admin here ?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> jace_: i use pepper flash in chrome, runs well
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> njin: try in #launchpad
[19:40] <njin> thanks
[19:41] <jace_> i think i can live without flash now, I see most videos like on Youtube have html5 option if you have no flash installed.  Maybe this flash will die soon.
[19:42] <fabryfb> sera a tutti
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> jace_: could use minitube to watch youtube vids
[19:42] <dclist> ActionParsnip: No luck
[19:42] <dclist> (directory was recreated by no sound
[19:42] <jCuber> dclist, Confirm you have done "sudo apt-get install alsa-utils".
[19:42] <dclist> )
[19:43] <dclist> jCuber: dpkg -l says yes
[19:43] <jace_> i don't know about his sound, but my sound was way louder in Debian stable.
[19:43] <roots> Hello
[19:43] <roots> I havea Q
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> dclist: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[19:44] <dclist> jCuber: Is my user supposed to be in the "sound" group?
[19:44] <fabryfb> la barra dei menu in libre office è scomparsa,ma se entro direttamante da libre c'è.
[19:44] <roots> Im running ubuntu server in a VM inside windows right now but can i export the image to a real server once i have it all configed ?
[19:44] <dclist> I'll try a reboot.
[19:44] <dclist> be back in5
[19:44] <roots> Not sure if this is the place to ask.
[19:44] <superrobyy> fabryfb questo e' il canale internazionale
[19:44] <ikonia> roots: not really no
[19:44] <fabryfb> come si fa ad andare in quello italiano?
[19:45] <jCuber> roots, #vmware
[19:45] <h00k> !it | fabryfb
[19:45] <superrobyy> fabryfb #ubuntu-it
[19:45] <ikonia> roots: technically you can, but it's a process rather than a "click"
[19:45] <superrobyy> h00k are you italian?
[19:45] <h00k> superrobyy: no
[19:46] <|nazist|> HI
[19:46] <superrobyy> h00k do you understand italian?
[19:46] <|nazist|> I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH UBUNTU
[19:46] <jCuber> superrobyy, Please do "/join #ubuntu-it"
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> !caps  | |nazist|
[19:47] <|nazist|> !ubu ntu is running slow
[19:47] <superrobyy> jCuber why?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> |nazist|: what video chip do you use?
[19:47] <|nazist|> I use AMD
[19:47] <|nazist|> and for chip ATI
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> !ati | |nazist|
[19:47] <jCuber> superrobyy, I don't think h00k speaks Italian. The "#ubuntu-it" channel is for Italian locales
[19:48] <h00k> superrobyy: no
[19:48] <|nazist|> cheers fellers
[19:48] <superrobyy> jCuber jCuber I don't want speak italian
[19:48] <jace_> I go to install synaptic in software center, and there are two of them?
[19:50] <ghostconn> is there any universal linux driver to sync my ableton live controller? I HOPE :)
[19:50] <asteconn> Hello chaps. I'm trying to create a customised keyboard layout. I've edited one of my xkb symbols files, and restarted, but I cannot select the new layout from the drop down list of options. Is there something else that I need to edit?
[19:50] <jCuber> jace_, Have you added external sources to the package manager?
[19:50] <ikonia> ghostconn: how many times have you been told this "NO"
[19:51] <jCuber> ikonia, See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Howto%3A%20Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions
[19:51] <jace_> nope jCuber
[19:51] <ikonia> jCuber: why are you showing me this ?
[19:51] <Dark_light> a
[19:52] <jCuber> ikonia, Haha, my bad. Sent that to the wrong user
[19:52] <jace_> I want to jump back in Debian so bad, but I guess it I give Ubuntu a week...
[19:52] <jrib> asteconn: there's some xml (or xml-like) file that contains all of the layouts...  You could just use setxkbmap though...
[19:52] <ghostconn> any producers out there?
[19:53] <ikonia> ghostconn: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[19:53] <cloudy> ghostconn, try ubuntu studio mailing list
[19:53] <ghostconn> cloudy : thank you
[19:54] <ghostconn> ikonia : do you just sit and watch the messages as they go by or what... you're on hear 24/7 lol i remember a year ago i needed help and you were on hear?? do you sleep lol
[19:54] <ghostconn> or at least get paid lol
[19:57] <Mattsyco> anyone know a  good system repair program?  I want to try running something like that before I am forced to wipe and reinstall my system.  my Video is going all wonky on me
[19:58] <patr|ck> what kind of repair? what is broken?
[19:58] <bekks> Mattsyco: There is no such thing, on no known operating system.,
[19:58] <wastrel> self healing software
[19:58] <patr|ck> :D
[19:58] <HappyNewYear13> hello. i have a question
[19:59] <HappyNewYear13> anyone here?
[20:00] <bekks> !ask | HappyNewYear13
[20:03] <anonymous_> hola
[20:03] <anonymous_> alguien
[20:03] <anonymous_> hay
[20:05] <Derbie> Hello
[20:05] <Mattsyco> Sorry, spaced out a tad.   Running Ubuntu 12.10, and my system froze in a sleep state.  when I got it running again it would not use a Dual-screen display.  and now there are blinking dashes going through the menu bar and every once in a while the top 2/3 of the screen will go black with white dashes
[20:06] <jCuber> Mattsyco, have you installed correct GPU drivers?
[20:06] <Derbie> I am anti-computer, i hardly know what is the difference between a CPU and RAM. Which version of ubuntu should i get for an old laptop from 2007, on which i use yahoo messenger, browser, youtube, gmail, .DOC .XLS files and teamviewer? I do not play PC games. Thank you :-)
[20:07] <jCuber> Derbie, Just get Xubuntu
[20:07] <wyclif> Derbie: if it were me, I would use lubuntu
[20:07] <Derbie> jCuber: this one: The all-new Ubuntu 12.10 is out now. ?
[20:08] <Derbie> wyclif: lubuntu is the light version afaik ?
[20:08] <Mattsyco> let me check.  I know there was a proprietary driver selection that I picked
[20:08] <jCuber> Derbie, wyclif, Yes, my bad, get Lubuntu
[20:08] <jCuber> Mattsyco, Which GPU are you using, in fact?
[20:08] <Mattsyco> amd radion HD 5750
[20:09] <Derbie> jcuber , wyclif : Is it more user friendly\? That's what i'm looking for. My wife won't know to use IRC to get help and i don't want to be bothered in the future to be honest
[20:09] <Leighton> Hi?
[20:09] <jCuber> Derbie, wyclif, Lubuntu is just a lightweight Ubuntu.
[20:09] <Leighton> Can anyone hear me?
[20:09] <Leighton> Read*
[20:10] <jCuber> !hi | Leighton
[20:10] <jCuber> aww
[20:10] <Mattsyco> hey Leighton
[20:10] <Leighton> I have a HUGE problem
[20:10] <jCuber> Yes, what seems to be the problem
[20:10] <Leighton> I just installed ubuntu 12.10 right?
[20:10] <Leighton> And suddenly my battery wouldnt charge
[20:10] <jCuber> Mattsyco, I downloaded http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[20:10] <Leighton> it stays at the same percentage
[20:10] <Mattsyco> thanks jCuber
[20:11] <Leighton> Anyone else have this problem?
[20:11] <jCuber> Mattsyco, No problem. If any more problems appear, #ubuntu is here!
[20:11] <Derbie> jcuber, wyclif xubuntu vs ubuntu 12.10 vs lubuntu : which one is more user friendly?
[20:12] <Leighton> Can anyone help me?
[20:12] <jCuber> Derbie, tbh, I've only used Ubuntu versions up to 10.04, so I'm guessing Ubuntu 12.10 would be the one. However, I'm not sure about your system specs.
[20:12] <navalastro> hello
[20:13] <navalastro> do you speak spanish?
[20:13] <wastrel> 12.10 IS NEW
[20:13] <wastrel> padon caps lock
[20:13] <jCuber> Leighton, Do you mean the battery stopped recharging completely, or the battery notification panel app has frozen?
[20:13] <IdleOne> !es | navalastro
[20:13] <navalastro> illo me cago en la puta responde a la pregunta
[20:14] <Leighton> Well, I look at the statistics of the battery, and the charging rate stays even
[20:14] <Mattsyco> Derbie, it depends on what type of layout you want.  if you want something with an actual menu and that is lightweight, Xubuntu is what you should use.  if you dont mind using the app finder in Unity, then the standard should suit you just fine
[20:14] <jCuber> !wtf | navalastro
[20:14] <Derbie> xubuntu recommended RAM and CPU ?
[20:14] <Leighton> I dont know if its stopped completely, i'm installing windows 7 to test, right nows
[20:15] <jCuber> Derbie, Do you know your laptop model?
[20:15] <Derbie> Yes
[20:15] <Mattsyco> Leighton, I have heard of others that have had problems with battery  charge displays, just dont know what to do to fix it
[20:15] <Derbie> amilo pro v3505
[20:15] <IdleOne> Derbie: at the bottom of this page http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[20:15] <Leighton> Well, my battery has worked fine with gnome remix 12.10,
[20:15] <marcelo> hi
[20:16] <Derbie> i think i have 512 RAM
[20:16] <ciao> ciao
[20:16] <marcelo> someone in espanish?
[20:16] <ciao> openjoke
[20:16] <babber> Hi. I have a user on my machine that has no login shell (/bin/false) but they do have a home directory. I want to get the files out of that home directory. I have the username and password. Can anyone help?
[20:16] <IdleOne> !es
[20:16] <Advocated> Hi there, does anything as such exist for ubuntu, im basically a member on lots of forums, i regularly check(view new content type of thing), is there anything out there that can check all of these for new content from one location?
[20:16] <ikonia> Advocated: rss
[20:17] <Derbie> windows XP is performing poorly on this laptop, thats why i want to move to linux.... idleone jcuber mattsyco
[20:17] <jCuber> Advocated, Try to find a RSS viewer from the Package Manager
[20:17] <ciao> openjokeopenjoke
[20:17] <Advocated> ikonia, i thought of that but ive looked at one of the foryums and it had an rss feed for a sub forum(not the whole lot) so would i have to add one for every sub forum if you get me? ive got that akgregator?
[20:17] <IdleOne> Derbie: sounds reasonable. try Xubuntu or Lubuntu and they both should run fine with 512mb RAM
[20:17] <jCuber> Derbie, Ahh, I see. Maybe you should try formatting your hard-drive and re-installing Windows XP if you've installed too many programs.
[20:18] <Derbie> jcuber she only uses it for messenger browsing youtube office programs and teamviewer (guess when...)
[20:19] <VlanX> how can i prevent ubuntu from cashing writes to disk for a ridicolous amount of time?
[20:19] <Derbie> IdleOne: i'll give xubuntu a go if you say it is more userfriendly then
[20:19] <jCuber> Derbie, I think that's the best option.
[20:20] <jCuber> VlanX, Do you mean caching?
[20:20] <IdleOne> Derbie: expect a slower performance from live cd then you would from an actual install, but both xubuntu and lubuntu are light and very usable.
[20:20] <VlanX> jCuber: if i write a 30 byte file to my HDD it doesnt just write it, it waits several minutes
[20:21] <Tohuw> Has anyone with an nVidia Optimus chipset had success with Bumblebee? Should I still shy away from Optimus-enabled systems?
[20:21] <allquixotic> Tohuw: I'm using it now. It works pretty well for most* things
[20:21] <Derbie> Thank you everyone! jCuber IdleOne Mattsyco wyclif Very much appreciated. I will format C: and install xubuntu on it. Will i encounter any issues with mounting the D: drive NTFS format?
[20:22] <IdleOne> Derbie: nope
[20:22] <Tohuw> allquixotic: What's inside that astrisk? ;)
[20:22] <Derbie> Okay, thank you!
[20:22] <allquixotic> Tohuw: there's definitely a performance overhead, but even still, the discrete GPU should run circles around your Intel... it's great for power management too: bumblebee automatically shuts off your nvidia GPU if nothing is using it, so your desktop can run at lower power on the intel chip
[20:23] <allquixotic> Tohuw: they're developing a lower-overhead transport called Primus that should help, but we'll only see the full benefit of Primus once Unity automatically disables redirected rendering in fullscreen
[20:23] <allquixotic> Tohuw: still, 3d games are playable for the most part
[20:23] <allquixotic> and there's little/no overhead for OpenCL
[20:23] <Tohuw> allquixotic: What model of laptop do you have, and what is your average battery life? Also, can't you just disable redirected rendering for full-screen applications in CCSM
[20:23] <fuga> hi, i' have some problem with a wifi card....somebody could help me?
[20:23] <escott> VlanX, if you need to sync then sync.
[20:24] <Tohuw> !doesntwork | fuga
[20:24] <allquixotic> Tohuw: ThinkPad T530 with Intel HD4000 on i7-3820QM, and Nvidia NVS 5400M
[20:25] <allquixotic> I don't run the system without A/C very often, but when I do, battery life without any Nvidia-accelerated apps running is quite good; around 7-8 hours on minimum screen brightness
[20:25] <allquixotic> Tohuw: of course, if you are doing 3d gaming on the nvidia GPU, expect battery life to halve or worse
[20:25] <allquixotic> hence the whole point of optimus
[20:26] <fuga> sorry ...my problem is...i want to compile some drivers and i don't know how to do.
[20:26] <Tohuw> allquixotic: going to take this to msg if you don't mind, to keep the channel clear.
[20:26] <allquixotic> Tohuw: the only *real* gotcha I've found of Bumblebee so far is that it doesn't work with VMware Workstation; that is, if you want hardware-accelerated 3d in a guest, you can only do that with the intel IGP, not the Nvidia
[20:27] <allquixotic> go ahead
[20:28] <jCuber> fuga, Which network card do you have? Is it an USB card? Internal?
[20:28] <PoolShark_> hola
[20:29] <jCuber> PoolShark_, Hi!
[20:29] <PoolShark_> what's up?
[20:29] <fuga> jcuber: it's an external usb card model  belkin rtl8188cus could you help to compile the driver i've just download to the website of realtek
[20:30] <Tohuw> fuga: What is the model of card? post the output of sudo lspci | grep -i network
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> i need advice. im wanting to make a backup bash script that i can later turn into a cron  job. i want this script to work by backing up the specified contents of a usb device to an external drive WHEN the usb is plugged in.
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> im wanting to be able to backup my files as quickly as it takes me to plug in a usb stick, and take it out, and the job be done
[20:33] <Tohuw> fuga: Ah, the rtl8188... read here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197295/cant-connect-to-wireless-network-with-a-sabrent-a111n-usb-dongle
[20:33] <jCuber> AcidRain2012, You might want to check out #bash
[20:33] <escott> AcidRain2012, trigger the backup with a udev rule. do the backup with rsync
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> my issue is: how do i get the path of the newly added device? the path may not be the same everytime. and i dont want to make it the same every time
[20:34] <escott> AcidRain2012, don't work with paths. use uuids
[20:34]  * PoolShark_ just got done cramming 16 hard drives into an Antec 300 case
[20:34] <PoolShark_> UUIDs == The Way to Go These Days
[20:34] <AcidRain2012> PoolShark_: good point. i know how to detect by uuid, but how would i back  it up without knowing the path based off the uuid?
[20:35] <jrib> AcidRain2012: also, if you give the partition a label, then it should get mounted using the label
[20:35] <escott> AcidRain2012, don't understand... you add an fstab entry by uuid the files are always in the same location
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> jrib: im wanting to avoid this. im wanting to make a simple user friendly script.
[20:36] <PoolShark_> god my dog is an idiot
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> only user input i want to use is them entering the uuid of the device. after that, i wnat it to automatically backup to a different device by uuid
[20:36] <jrib> AcidRain2012: that makes no sense...
[20:37] <lnxmen> probably dog is more intelligent than half year baby
[20:37] <PoolShark_> he's fascinated with twist ties
[20:37] <PoolShark_> she
[20:38] <AcidRain2012> jrib: ok. here is what im saying. i make a script to backup files. the files will be backed up in a folder on an external device (user types the uuid of the external device, this is where files are backed up, a folder will be created with the name of the uuid). when i plug in a usb device with a certain uuid (user input) the script will detect it and backup files
[20:38] <PoolShark_> she runs around the house throwing them up in the air to herself... she just did it now and wasn't looking where she was going and ran into a wall head first
[20:38] <jrib> AcidRain2012: so what's your question?
[20:39] <Tohuw> fuga: Sorry, I am pressed for time at the moment. Which command are you having trouble with?
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> but. i want to avoid putting a label on every device i get, or anyone else gets in my family. the issue is no one else in my family would even know how to do that. and im not about to label 100 drives
[20:39] <jCuber> !offtopic | PoolShark_
[20:39] <exarkun> Having trouble upgrading, can't get adobe-flashplugin to upgrade or even to uninstall: http://codepad.org/J7yZw7sX
[20:39] <jrib> AcidRain2012: so instead you're having them enter 100 UUIDs?
[20:39] <exarkun> Any suggestions?
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> jrib: so the question is, how do i back the files up, if i KNOW the uuid of the device plugged in. but i DONT know the path too it
[20:39] <PoolShark_> you realize that if the user has to enter a UUID, the process will likely fail.. because they won't do it
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> jrib: exactlly right. lol. ill make it so they can easily select 1 from a list.
[20:40] <escott> AcidRain2012, crossreference mount and blkid
[20:40] <jrib> AcidRain2012: how on earth do you expect them to know which uuid corresponds to the thing they just plugged in?
[20:40] <AcidRain2012> the less they talk to me about computer realted issues, the happier i will be, and the less they will gripe about a computer that is fried and they lost everything
[20:40] <AcidRain2012> jrib: cause the script will wait for a difference to occure.
[20:41] <bekks> AcidRain2012: /dev/disk-by-uuid ...
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> bekks: thats what i use
[20:41] <jrib> AcidRain2012: I guess I don't understand what you are doing.  But others can help you.
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> ill try to crossreferencing mount and blkid
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> yea that seems like the best method. just need to find out how to parse all of this now. which google will help. thank you everyone for your help
[20:43] <escott> AcidRain2012, the /dev/disk-by-uuid may be more accessible to a script.
[20:44] <AcidRain2012> escott: yeah, i think ill use that and crossreference with blkid
[20:44] <escott> AcidRain2012, but i would just hook into udev and then you can directly handle the plugin event and have all the information you need
[20:44] <bekks> AcidRain2012: cat /proc/mnounts ...
[20:44] <rogan> .xchat2/budus.so
[20:45] <PoolShark_> is there a sysprep-like utility for ubuntu?
[20:45] <jCuber> PoolShark_, "Linux doesn't have SIDs and it's not registered, so there's nothing to do to "prepare" it. Just copy the VM file. "
[20:46] <PoolShark_> well, it's not quite that simple
[20:47] <deper29> hey, I am using kde and I didn't unpack my theme when i chose it to be my theme. Now, if I try to boot it fails into a console because it can't use that theme. Any idea how I would fix this?
[20:47] <PoolShark_> when you install ubuntu, you have to give it a user name and their details, a hostname, and other things
[20:47] <PoolShark_> if you blindly copy the VM file, that's a start, but you then need to go in and change all that stuff
[20:47] <PoolShark_> I've never messed around with  mass-deployments of ubuntu, so I am sure there must be a better way
[20:48] <jCuber> deper29, Tried doing "startx" in the console?
[20:48] <jCuber> PoolShark_, Ahh, I see. Don't really have experience in that area, so I can't help you.
[20:49] <PoolShark_> no worries
[20:49] <guntbert> What happens after apport has done its thing after a crash (collected info, asked the user if a "problem report" should be sent)? I never get the chance to actually report a bug, as is the case when calling ubuntu-bug.
[20:50] <deper29> jCuber: yeah, if I do startx it tries to start into kdm
[20:50] <deper29> is there a way in command line to change my default kdm theme?
[20:51] <jCuber> deper29, dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?
[20:51] <jCuber> deper29, or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop && sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[20:52] <whaaa> i have a ?
[20:52] <Tex_Nick> I'm looking for some feedback on the ubuntu port to Nexus 7 ... if anyone's using it ... how's the experience ?
[20:52] <guntbert> !ask | whaaa
[20:52] <guntbert> Tex_Nick: not here please - this is a support channel
[20:53] <k1l> Tex_Nick: better ask in #ubuntu-arm oder #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:53] <whaaa> so i have windows 7, with 2 montiors on amd catalyst... will all my programs already installed on windows be there if i install ubuntu
[20:53] <jCuber> Tex_Nick, Try the Ubuntu Forums, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:53] <bekks> whaaa: Be where?
[20:53] <whaaa> be on ubuntu
[20:53] <jCuber> whaaa, I have bad news for you
[20:53] <bekks> whaaa: Of course, no.
[20:53] <guntbert> whaaa: not in your ubuntu - its a different Operating system
[20:54] <PoolShark_> there's an ubuntu port to Nexus 7?????? whoa, I gotta go check that out
[20:54] <whaaa> ...so id have to install bf3, photoshop and all that on ubuntu too
[20:54] <francesc1> hi guys. My pupils chat over clients (LTSP
[20:54] <bekks> whaaa: Those applications are NOT available on Ubuntu.
[20:54] <PoolShark_> whaaa: None of that stuff will run on Ubuntu
[20:54] <guntbert> whaaa: no, they will not all be available for linux
[20:54] <dr_willis> whaaa: linux only runs windows apps with the use of wine.
[20:55] <dr_willis> and thwn not all of them
[20:55] <Tex_Nick> ok thanks ppl ... i'll shop around :-)
[20:55] <whaaa> dang... so if i want to run ubuntu with all my stuff, should i just use the windows installer and run both?
[20:55] <PoolShark_> whaaa: That's probably the simplest
[20:55] <PoolShark_> you can do that, or get VirtualBox and run Ubuntu in that
[20:55] <dr_willis> whaaa: that dosent run both oss at the same time
[20:55] <whaaa> ok cool, ive got plenty of room to do so.  what are the advantages of using ubuntu
[20:55] <dr_willis> vbox will.
[20:55] <jetole> Hey guys. After I use dpkg --set-selections, how do I implement those changes?
[20:56] <whaaa> ya not both at the same time but i can at least switch right?
[20:56] <Kevin89> whaaa: What reason do you have for installing it?
[20:56] <frank000> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 in Virtualbox and it works like a charm :)
[20:56] <jCuber> whaaa, You can't run all of your Windows stuff. It's the same as trying to get a Mac program to work on Windows. You can also create a dual-boot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:56] <PoolShark_> whaaa: You can run Ubuntu at the same time as Windows if you install VirtualBox in Windows, and then install Ubuntu in VirtualBox
[20:56] <Smackbook> is there any other parts of a system besides fstab which attach your OS to the particular UUID of your root drive?
[20:57] <dr_willis> Smackbook: grub bootloader can
[20:57] <escott> Smackbook, fstab, the initramfs, and if you have mdadm or lvm
[20:57] <whaaa> kevin89, just out of curiousity i wanted to... its something ive never used and windows is getting a little old
[20:57] <dr_willis> look at the grub.cfg file to see if it is
[20:58] <frank000> ...i'm falling love with unity (i hated it so far)
[20:58] <yeats> whaaa: install virtualbox on Windows, then install Ubuntu there - if you like it, dual boot or install it as your primary OS
[20:58] <guntbert> whaaa: in that case best try it with a live CD
[20:58] <dr_willis> whaaa: get the 12.10 dvd and play with the live dvd feature. no need to install
[20:58] <yeats> whaaa: or with a live CD as guntbert says
[20:59] <dr_willis> you can even test the live cd in virtualbox
[20:59] <whaaa> so that means i basically burn it to dvd and every time i put the disc in i can use ubuntu
[20:59] <Smackbook> dr_willis: ah, so if I copy my OS to another machine (and dont want to tunefs the UUID of my other drive to match) I just have to update fstab (from blkid) and update grub?
[20:59] <dr_willis> boot the cd.. yes.
[20:59] <frank000> or just mount iso w/ virtual clone drive
[20:59] <yeats> whaaa: in that case I would use a USB so you can preserve settings
[20:59] <guntbert> whaaa: when you boot from the DVD, yes
[20:59] <dr_willis> Smackbook:  i think so
[20:59] <whaaa> sweet stuff man, thanks for the help yall
[20:59] <soman> >>> Hi all. Ubuntu 12.04. Left side panel with apps doesn't disappear. I tried to change settings and on / off this option but nothing changes... what could be a problem?
[21:00] <escott> Smackbook, and the initramfs
[21:00] <frank000> another alternative to try linux is to use wubi. what do you think abt?
[21:00] <Smackbook> escott: oh right, i'm not experienced with that one.  is there a config file? like /etc/initramfs
[21:00] <Smackbook> checking
[21:00] <yeats> frank000: most in here will not recommend wubi as a viable option
[21:01] <escott> Smackbook, no just update-initramfs (it reads from /etc and structures the initramfs file in /boot)
[21:01] <guntbert> frank000: rather not - it is kept within  a windows file - that simply calls for trouble :)
[21:01] <Smackbook> escott: i see, thank you
[21:01] <frank000> so better virtualbox? ;)
[21:01] <yeats> frank000: if you've got the resources, yes - if not, dual boot\
[21:02] <frank000> i'm running ubuntu 12.04LTS on G640/2x2GB RAM and works very well
[21:02] <frank000> virtualbox
[21:05] <Kevin89> I just installed Fluxbox on Ubuntu 12.10 but it's already partially configured...  anyone know how I could get a clean fluxbox installation?
[21:06] <frank000> Do you suggest 12.10 or keeps the 12.04LTS?
[21:07] <ikonia> frank000: up to you
[21:07] <Kevin89> frank000: Unless you deployed the machine in an office environment ... it really wouldn't matter for the average person
[21:08] <Arcimboldo> Hi all: I'm running ubuntu 12.10 on macbookpro 9,2, I want to use pommed to autodim and control keyboard backlight, how can I disable kb backlight support in X from compiz/unity/whatever?
[21:08] <newbodhi> hi
[21:08] <newbodhi> how can i properly close a program (like firefox) from terminal (and not kill it)?
[21:09] <frank000> 12.10 will be supported for 18months or 2years?
[21:09] <ikonia> 18 months
[21:09] <isambart> bonjour tout le monde
[21:09] <Arcimboldo> newbodhi: kill by default will "ask" the program to terminate nicely
[21:09] <frank000> ok so I will stay with 12.04 LTS ;)
[21:10] <_neil77_> 12.04 LTS ofcourse
[21:11] <tester> lol
[21:12] <frank000> anyone use/admin LTSP here^
[21:12] <bekks> frank000: Why?
[21:12] <kpitn> hi all, i'm in bad trouble with a dell flash bios, can someone help me ?
[21:12] <ikonia> how hard is it to just ask your question
[21:12] <ikonia> does it matter what anyone else is using ?
[21:13] <frank000> my students chats over the thin clients :)
[21:13] <helldone> Sovellus, jolla voin nähdä, kuka koneellani/verkossani käy ilman lupaa!?!
[21:13] <sin_tax> is it normal for a 720p webcam to show up as 640x480 in ubnutu? http://pastebin.com/q2S8W8Cp
[21:13] <frank000> they can't install software so was wondering which builtin software are using :)
[21:13] <ikonia> ask them
[21:13] <frank000> ikonia: lol
[21:14] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[21:14] <ikonia> "I'm wondering what they are using", "ask them"
[21:14] <bekks> frank000: We dont know what they are using. :P
[21:14] <guntbert> !fi | helldone
[21:14] <Kevin89> If I install a package and extra packages are installed with it, how can I make sure those are removed when I uninstall the original?
[21:15] <zykotick9> Kevin89: "sudo apt-get autoremove" might do it
[21:15] <frank000> I have another issue with xf86config error growing up to fill up the whole hard disk
[21:15] <ikonia> frank000: a config file will not fill up the hard disk
[21:15] <ikonia> frank000: it's also static, so it won't change in size
[21:15] <DaveR> Kevin89, another way to get around that is to use the --no-install-recommends flag with your apt-get install... that way only the package you requested gets installed
[21:16] <Arcimboldo> anyone know how to configure keyboard backlight and brightness behavior in ubuntu 12.10?
[21:16] <Arcimboldo> I can't find any configuration entry in gconf-editor
[21:16] <Kevin89> zykotick9: Doesn't  look like that worked :(
[21:17] <frank000> ikonia: .xession error file
[21:17] <Out`Of`Control> Hi what is ubuntu devs channel?
[21:17] <ikonia> frank000: look at the error then
[21:17] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: depends what type of development
[21:17] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: what's the question
[21:17] <frank000> ikonia: it's abt 1TB!
[21:17] <isambart> callagan
[21:17] <Out`Of`Control> unity
[21:17] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: that's not a question
[21:17] <tester>  Backtrack vs Blackbuntu,  I use both but trying to decide. Any thoughts?
[21:18] <ikonia> tester: neither are anything to do wiht this channel
[21:18] <isambart> hello
[21:18] <Out`Of`Control> ikonia:  is there ubuntu dev channel?
[21:18] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: it depends what for, what's the question
[21:18] <Out`Of`Control> ikonia:  can you give me or not?
[21:18] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: it depends what for, what's the question
[21:18] <frank000> is there a way to view a huge .xsession-error file
[21:18] <ikonia> frank000: truncate it, and monitor it before it grows
[21:19] <frank000> ikonia: with tail -f
[21:19] <ikonia> frank000: if you want
[21:19] <iliveinapark> Hi all, I need some help with ACLs on Samba/NFS shares on native ZFS. Is this a good place to ask, or is there somewhere else? I'm completely new to ubuntu (been strictly debian/FreeBSD all my life), so don't know the community yet.
[21:20] <ikonia> iliveinapark: well, ZFS isn't in ubuntu
[21:20] <ikonia> iliveinapark: so the acl's will just be standard NFS acls
[21:20] <Out`Of`Control> ikonia: its related to unity desktop files / UCS
[21:20] <escott> Arcimboldo, check in /sys
[21:20] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: what's the question
[21:21] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: actually, doesn't matter, I can't be bothered - "no, I can't point you at the developers channel"
[21:21] <Arcimboldo> escott: backlight works, I want to disable it from the graphical interface, and make pommed deal with it
[21:22] <userzzz> if i click unity icon the windows come on foreground, is it possible to reclick and put where it was, now if i reclick noting happen
[21:22] <Out`Of`Control> ikonia: so why you keep asking me?
[21:22] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: I've stopped asking you, I was asking you so I could point you at the right channel, but you won't give me the question so I'm fed up of asking you, so "no, I won't help you"
[21:22] <iliveinapark> ikonia: Yeah, I had a feeling, but google hasn't turned up anything. nfs4-acl-tools, then? Will they be relatively consistent over samba and nfs on the same fs?
[21:22] <Kevin89> sorry what was that  parameter to only download the singular package and none of the extas?
[21:23] <ikonia> iliveinapark: they won't be consistant over samba, as samba won't interact with NFS like that
[21:23] <ikonia> iliveinapark: they need to be on the native file system to be picked up by both samba/nfs
[21:23] <DaveR> Out`Of`Control, I think the problem is that your question is very general.  There are many different  areas of development and thus depending on what you are developing, there are different channels in which to discuss it
[21:23] <Out`Of`Control> ikonia: i told you its about unity UCS ,menu entries for UCS
[21:23] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: that's not a question
[21:24] <iliveinapark> ikonia: Fair enough, thanks mate.
[21:25] <doomlord> is it possible that nvidia GT640 just doesn't work with *compiz*. i tried some updates , it works for ubuntu2d, and for gl apps ... but not compiz
[21:25] <ikonia> doomlord: yes, it's totally possible, especially as the installer warns you the card is not supported
[21:26] <Out`Of`Control> ikonia: btw i don't need help but ubuntu devs
[21:26] <doomlord> ok. i guess i should have researched my gfx card purchase a little better; stil no disaster, with many screens i need transitions less
[21:26] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: then there is no problem, as I've said I won't help you
[21:27] <Out`Of`Control> ikonia:  all i need a channel to contact them IRC channel.
[21:27] <Out`Of`Control> but maybe this was wrong place to ask for info
[21:27] <bekks> Out`Of`Control: Just out of interest - what do need from the devs?
[21:27] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: yes, and I was trying to get you the right channel by asking what your question was
[21:27] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: however as you won't tell me the question you need to ask/discuss, I can't point you at the right channel
[21:28] <k1l> !guidelines | Out`Of`Control
[21:28] <Out`Of`Control> ikonia:  Ubuntu unity Devs.
[21:28] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: and as I've asked you 10 times and you've not answered, I can't be bothered any more
[21:28] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: that's not a question
[21:28] <k1l> Out`Of`Control: take alook inside the  guidelines. there are the core channels mentioned
[21:28] <Out`Of`Control> k1l: ty
[21:29] <userzzz> if i click an icon why if i reclick don't disappear? help me what i have to do to enable it
[21:29] <k1l> Out`Of`Control: but if you bother them with noob stuff you wont get a warm welcome. so think about ask a real question here.
[21:30] <Basil1x> I just upgraded to 12.10, now ktorrent no longer puts its' icon in the top bar.  Is there any way to fix this?
[21:30] <k1l> userzzz: that is not supposed to happen.
[21:30] <dr_willis> userzzz:  you mean if you click on  for example firefox in the left side panel. you expect it to minimize
[21:30] <Out`Of`Control> k1l: again i don't have a problem but ubuntu unity Devs.
[21:30] <toorovieejo> hi everybody
[21:30] <userzzz> yes
[21:30] <jagginess> Out`Of`Control, aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:30] <jagginess> Out`Of`Control, im not dev
[21:30] <userzzz> it has to reminimize or go where it was
[21:30] <k1l> Out`Of`Control: they have a problem?
[21:31] <dr_willis> userzzz:  its not designed to work that way. if you had 8 firefox windows open it would spread them out
[21:31] <Out`Of`Control> k1l:  yes
[21:31] <bekks> Out`Of`Control: Which problem do they have? Tell us about it please.
[21:31] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/unity-with-minimize-on-click-patch.html
[21:31] <Out`Of`Control> bekks:  lmms keeps crashing in ubuntu with unity
[21:31] <userzzz> no just the only on top
[21:31] <bekks> Out`Of`Control: And did you create a bug report yet, in launchpad?
[21:32] <dr_willis> userzzz:  read up on it at that URL.
[21:32] <Basil1x> never mind... 12.10 appears to have more issues than 12.04LTS did.
[21:32] <bekks> Out`Of`Control: Doing so will helop them to solve that issue.
[21:32] <Out`Of`Control> bekks: i guess noone read what i write?
[21:32] <dr_willis> the whole idea of minimizeing is sort of .. well outdated. ;)
[21:32] <Basil1x> Downgrading... again
[21:32] <brunost> anybody here that knows of a good guide for making a persistent usb installation of ubuntu server here?
[21:32] <userzzz> dr_willis which url?
[21:32] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/unity-with-minimize-on-click-patch.html
[21:32] <arman> hi
[21:32] <userzzz> ok
[21:33] <userzzz> thx
[21:33] <bekks> Out`Of`Control: People do read what you are writing. Did you create a bug report yet?
[21:33] <arman> hello
[21:33] <Out`Of`Control> bekks:  devs have problem not me. I need irc channel to contact them
[21:33] <bekks> Out`Of`Control: You need to create a bug report.
[21:33] <dr_willis> !info lmms
[21:33] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: you contact them by logging a bug report
[21:33] <Out`Of`Control> bekks:  for what? i don't even use Ubuntu
[21:33] <ikonia> Out`Of`Control: that way the problem is logged and multiple people/teams can view it and contribute
[21:34] <k1l> Out`Of`Control: honestly. if you dont have a bug report handy they will not listen to you.
[21:34] <ForSpareParts> I tried moving a partition (NTFS) with GParted from Ubuntu Live -- after I finished, the partition won't mount, and Ubuntu's suggesting I run chkdsk -- problem is that Windows won't boot if the drive inquestion is plugged in (even though I'm not booting from it) and I can't even see my boot drive in BIOS now.
[21:34] <Awesomewm> Ubuntu 12.04 is only as good as its de
[21:34] <ForSpareParts> I can still get into my Ubuntu Live, though -- is there anything I can do from there to fix this?
[21:35] <bekks> Awesomewm: Ubuntu provides several desktop environments - so its multiplied then? ;)
[21:35] <dr_willis> bekks:  its exponential! :)
[21:36] <Awesomewm> I don't use the default gnome. I install a more stable desktop environment off the bat
[21:37] <Out`Of`Control> all i was asking was for #ubuntu-devel channel
[21:38] <dr_willis> Awesomewm: let me guess.. you like IceWM? :)
[21:39] <bekks> dr_willis: ion3 ;)
[21:39] <Awesomewm>  I use Awesome WM
[21:39] <dr_willis> we all know olvwm is best. ;)
[21:39] <dr_willis> if its even in the repos still...
[21:39]  * dr_willis just showed his age
[21:39] <Kevin89> ;o
[21:39] <userzzz> dr_willis, very useful link
[21:40] <bfortified> Anyone know how to make this auth.log entry "PAM 5 more authentication failures; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=192.168.1.254  user=username" log each failure instead of batching them?
[21:40] <Awesomewm> lxde,xfce,fluxbox,openbox or kde Im good with them all
[21:41] <bekks> dr_willis: It is older than Motif, isnt it?
[21:41] <ubuntu__> hello- i just installed ubuntu LTS on my dell inspiron 1525 - and when i started i couldnt access the internet because no driver for my network device - any help????
[21:41] <DarKMode> bfortified go to rsyslog configuration file and change the priority
[21:42] <dr_willis> bekks:  yea. i think it was origially used on the Sun Stations i used in college in 1986 (or im confused again)
[21:42] <dr_willis> bekks:  or at least thers whre i used it first
[21:42] <Kevin89> How can I install fluxbox without any of the extra packages?
[21:42] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install fluxbox should pull in the minimal set for fluxbox
[21:43] <Kevin89> dr_willis: I'm trying to get a clean fluxbox install but when I tried that and went int oa fluxbox session
[21:43] <chuga64> #exit
[21:43] <ubuntu__> hello- i just installed ubuntu LTS on my dell inspiron 1525 - and when i started i couldnt access the internet because no driver for my network device - any help
[21:43] <Kevin89> ubuntu added a panel and background and some other things
[21:43] <Kevin89> i'd really like a fresh experiencee
[21:43] <Awesomewm> forspareparts probably not ubuntu always messes up windows seven side of a dual boot
[21:43] <dr_willis> err.. most likely theres some defult system wide fluxbox configs its using.. fluxbox has a panel last i used it..
[21:44] <ikonia> Awesomewm: no it doesn't
[21:44] <ikonia> Awesomewm: ubuntu works fine with Windows 7 as a dual boot situation
[21:45] <Awesomewm> It smashed my my windows 7 side
[21:45] <dr_willis> dident touch windows here at all.. 2 hd setup.
[21:45] <dr_willis> ive had windows mess up ubuntu more often
[21:45] <ikonia> Awesomewm: no it didn't
[21:45] <ikonia> Awesomewm: the bu
[21:46] <ikonia> the ubuntu install does not touch the windows install
[21:46] <ikonia> so please - stop talking nonsense
[21:46] <dr_willis> 12.10 doesnet even have the import users/settings/files from windows any more does it?
[21:46] <Kevin89> dr_willis: yeah it does
[21:50] <scarleo> where did the proprietary driver dialogue go in 12.10? Can't find it
[21:51] <scarleo> I meant the installation program for wireless drivers, nvidia etc.
[21:52] <cosmo> i've got an external hard drive that won't show up on the gui, but i can find it in gparted
[21:52] <Awesomewm> ubuntu_ open terminal and run jockey-gtk
[21:52] <ikonia> jokey is gone
[21:53] <ikonia> jockey even
[21:53] <mattsyco> it should be under Mount when you look at the files Cosmo
[21:53] <dr_willis> scarleo:  its under the software sources app - in a tab
[21:54] <cosmo> how exactly do i look at the files? where am i looking?
[21:54] <scarleo> dr_willis, Ah, cool, thanks
[21:54] <niriven> so why ubuntu over something like arch or debian?
[21:54] <cosmo> Awesomewm, i ran jockey-gtk, just got a blank list of drivers
[21:54] <ikonia> niriven: personal choice, find your own view
[21:55] <gustav__> niriven: nVidia drivers included. Or at least non-complicated to install. My computer came with Ubuntu, too.
[21:56] <Awesomewm> cosmo it won't show in disk utility
[21:56] <cosmo> what's the command for that
[21:57] <dr_willis> cosmo:  the file maanger should show all seen filesystems in its left side list.
[21:57] <dr_willis> cosmo:  if a windows partion is for some reason not 'clean' it may refuse to mount it.
[21:57] <dr_willis> cosmo:  what filesystem is on the hd? and you can try to mount it 'by hand' if you want
[21:58] <niriven> ah ok. i did just download 12.10, strangely enough windows says "image is too large for a cd-r"
[21:58] <cosmo> doesn't show up on the left hand side of the gui. and i formatted it with fat32, gave one big partition the whole drive space if that's the correct way to do it
[21:58] <maslo> hi guys I have a question regarding ssh tunnels, I know how to use one and have my own vps but what I'd like to know is if there's any way to see what is being browsed through the tunnel?  is there any command to do so/anything?
[21:58] <escott> niriven, it can be burned on a CD but it needs to be the bigger ones
[21:59] <niriven> escott: bleh, it used to work with a cd-r :(
[21:59] <dr_willis> cosmo:  you could try to mount it by hand if you wanted to.   did you JUST repartion/reformat it in gparted? You did Format the filesystem?
[21:59] <dr_willis> 12.10 is bigger then i cd i thought. has to be on dvd now.
[21:59] <soman> broken pipe*: couldn't write bytes... I get this mesage when I start my PC... what does it mean? Ubuntu 12.04 (ext4) also installed win7 on ntfs
[21:59] <cosmo> i believe so, i'll look at it again
[22:00] <dr_willis> cosmo:  if its blank/cleanly formated. you could just try unpluggibng it and plugging it back in
[22:00] <cosmo> dr_willis, already tried that :p
[22:01] <dr_willis> cosmo:  check output of the 'dmesg' command it may show what /dev/sdXX device the thing is. you will need to know that to mount it by hand
[22:06] <cosmo> dr_willis, well now it's got one fat32 partition taking up most of the drive, and 2.49mb partition taking up some other space that I couldn't write over.
[22:07] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[22:07] <dr_willis> thats sort of normal these days. rounding of the partion boundries..
[22:07] <wifioregon> My gnome-panel network system monitor is showing I'm sending data at 93kbps, even when nothing is open! It's kindof freaking me out. How do I see what is using network resources?
[22:07] <cosmo> okay
[22:07] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[22:07] <dr_willis> cosmo:  sudo fdisk -l   should show the  partions  /dev/sdXXX path
[22:08] <wifioregon> I'm thinking maybe its Ubuntu cloud
[22:08] <mattwj2002> I can't upgrade between 12.04.1 and 12.10 through the command line
[22:08] <mattwj2002> any idea why
[22:08] <mattwj2002> ?
[22:08] <wifioregon> mattwj2002:  what command are you using?
[22:08] <mattwj2002> do-release-upgrade
[22:08] <mattwj2002> oops
[22:08] <wifioregon> mattwj2002:  with sudo right?
[22:08] <mattwj2002> right
[22:09] <wifioregon> hmm. And doing it from the update-manager GUI isn't an option?
[22:09] <cosmo> dr_willis, looks like its dev sdc1
[22:09] <mattwj2002> no I probably could
[22:09] <mattwj2002> matt@node1:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:09] <mattwj2002> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[22:09] <mattwj2002> No new release found
[22:09] <mattwj2002> matt@node1:~$
[22:09] <FloodBot1> mattwj2002: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <mattwj2002> sorry for the flood
[22:09] <cosmo> er rather, /dev/sdc1
[22:10] <wolfmitchell> Where is uuid-dev installed to?
[22:10] <dr_willis> you need to tell it to look for non LTS releases mattwj2002
[22:10] <paris> Hi folks! I don't know why I can not use a phone in gmail, any suggestions I greatly appreciate ? PS. I have install the google talk-plugin and nothing at all.
[22:10] <escott> mattwj2002, you are not configured to go to non-lts releases
[22:10] <crimsonmane> "locate uuid-dev"
[22:10] <mattwj2002> yup I just found that in the gui!
[22:10] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:11] <dr_willis> cosmo:  if you want to moubnt it by hand you can. or make a fstab entry for it.
[22:11] <dr_willis> cosmo:  or try installng/running the ntfs-config tool and it should make a fstab entry for it for you.
[22:11] <dr_willis> !vfat
[22:11] <cosmo> i don't know what any of that means but i'll google around
[22:11] <wolfmitchell> crimsonmane, no results, but I installed it in apt-get
[22:11] <dr_willis> its weird its not doing it automatically..
[22:12] <mattwj2002> upgrading now! :D
[22:12] <cosmo> i just want a fat32 partition on it to play media with a ps3
[22:12] <dr_willis> cosmo:  sort guide... 'sudo mkdir /media/mydrive'  'sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mydrive  '
[22:12] <crimsonmane> cosmo: there is a product called PLEX that will do that
[22:12] <dr_willis> plex is nice. ;)
[22:12] <crimsonmane> no need for NTFS
[22:13] <dr_willis> theres other DLNA/UPNP servers that can stream to ps3 or other devices
[22:13] <mattwj2002> okay thanks guys
[22:13] <mattwj2002> bye!
[22:13] <dr_willis> even my android phone can work as a upnp server to my home network. ;)
[22:13] <Smackbook> how come, after all these years, the ubuntu shutdown animation is still so glitchy?
[22:14] <Smackbook> i have 5 ubuntu machines and I swear everyone one of them glitches in some unique way when you shutdown/restart
[22:14]  * dr_willis wonders why we need a shutdown animation.
[22:14] <Smackbook> thats legit
[22:14] <dr_willis> depends on the video drivers from what ive seen. My netbooks seem to work fine.
[22:14] <dr_willis> nvidia systems with nvidia drivers.. not so good.
[22:14] <Smackbook> ahh that might be the problem, thats mostly what I have
[22:14] <Smackbook> a lot of times it shows a terminal with just the animated dot sprites on top of it
[22:15] <dr_willis> thats why then. Pymounth and the non gpl nvidia drivers.. have.. issues ;)
[22:15] <Smackbook> gotcha
[22:15] <dr_willis> Smackbook:  yep. i see that also.
[22:15] <dr_willis> somthing with how the drivers/plymounth handle it all. I never did see what we gained by plymouth.. other then lots of hassles.
[22:15] <dr_willis> 'we cant scare people with boot messages' ;)
[22:16] <dr_willis> bbl
[22:16] <Smackbook> ok
[22:16] <inyoot> hi
[22:17] <gustav__> I don't have any problems with shutdowns. I have an nVidia GPU.
[22:17] <gustav__> Sometimes I think I do but that's just because I do shutdown instead of poweroff.
[22:17] <gustav__> So I get confused and think it's crashed.
[22:18] <gustav__> When it isn't...
[22:22] <Awesomewm> it you use terminal commands to shutdown the computer  there less problems
[22:23] <Awesomewm> #if
[22:24] <inyoot> i just install ubuntu 12.10 and it's working great... after automatic updating, it cannot connect to wifi... could someone help me troubleshoot?
[22:24] <Awesomewm> mod4 +c
[22:24] <_jmz_> can anyone help me out with hotlinking protection?  I have literally gone through 50 diff guides for mod_rewrite.  I even tried a python script but it just denies access to everything.  running ubuntu server with apache
[22:25] <Guest13549> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS and since i installed it  - i cant see the device for network and also no wifi working ..... please i need help
[22:27] <DarKMode> Guest13549 what version did u install ?
[22:27] <Guest13549> Darkmode: 12.04 LTS
[22:28] <saulotoledo> Hello all! I'm with Gnome 3.6 here, but I can't change my wallpapper. There are some other application running upside with another wallpapper, but I'm unable to identify it. Somebody can help me?
[22:28] <DarKMode> try ifconfig -a from the command line
[22:29] <Guest13549> DarkMode: but iam not able to connect to internet if it will ask me to be online to check it
[22:30] <Smackbook> is there a cli command that will recurse into a directory and tell you how much space is used in it?
[22:30] <DarKMode> so you have it dual boot with windows
[22:30] <DarKMode> i tought you have it on anther machine
[22:30] <gustav__> Smackbook: du -h dir will show you the size of dir and subdirectories.
[22:31] <Smackbook> gustav__: thanks i knew it was similar to df
[22:32] <Guest13549> DarkMode:  iam online Via the test Version .... and i dont know why on the test option - i can connect online - but when i go on normal booting from my PC - its not working at all - and not seeing the device and not seeing driver
[22:34] <jagginess> Guest13549, maybe the test version is newer than the installed OS
[22:34] <tobias_93> :part
[22:35] <DarKMode> test version you mean live CD or usb ?
[22:35] <Guest13549> Jagginess: i installed my OS from the same CD which allowing me the test version
[22:35] <inyoot> i just install ubuntu 12.10 and it's working great... after automatic updating, it cannot connect to wifi... could someone help me troubleshoot?
[22:36] <jagginess> Guest13549, oh that.. that i'm not sure if it's as well tested as the non-livecd installer
[22:37] <jagginess> Guest13549, oh wait.. did you make a usb-liveinstaller ?(some usb makers are faulty)
[22:37] <DarKMode> Guest13549 i suggest that you reinstall it again and check the cd fron defect .
[22:37] <jagginess> Guest13549, (live is now embedded with an install option)
[22:37] <xd-xd-xd-xd-> HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA
[22:37] <DarKMode>  Guest13549 we can't help you if you aren't on the same machine
[22:38] <xd-xd-xd-xd-> HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA HOLA HIJOS DE PUTA
[22:38] <Guest13549> Jagginess: yes i did it from a USB
[22:38] <gustav__> HAHA. What the deus?
[22:38] <Guest13549> DarkMode : iam on the same machine - BUT - iam using the test version to be online -
[22:38] <unknown-> Does anyone have a go-to resource list for kworker going haywire? Or want to walk me through profiling the kernel so I can submit a bug report?
[22:39] <Meris> I'm trying to format a microSD card of 16GB with EXT2, but I get a warning about reported errors while writing superblocks. Which logfile should I consult to check out the details?
[22:39] <wolfmitchell> Would find -D search / libuuid.so #Look for the file libuuid.so in the whole system?
[22:39] <DarKMode> Guest13549 yes i know the same machine but not the same os
[22:39] <Guest13549> Jagginess : while i was creating my USB - the PC didnt give me any report  about any error
[22:39] <jagginess> Guest13549, which iso and usb tool did you use? (i tend to stick with pendrive usb maker if one uses m$win)
[22:40] <jrib> wolfmitchell: probably not.  But why do you want to do that?
[22:40] <Guest13549> Jagginess i used  normale " USB desk creator "
[22:40] <saulotoledo> I'm with Gnome 3.6 here, but I can't change my wallpapper. There are some other application running upside with another wallpapper, but I'm unable to identify it. Somebody can help me?
[22:40] <DarKMode> wolfmitchell try find / -name libuuid.so
[22:41] <zamutnii> hello, my home fs (ext4) shows 1Gb space left, when I know that I have about 30Gb free. 'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix it.
[22:41] <jagginess> Guest13549, do you see an interface (like eth0?) when you do sudo ifconfig -a ?
[22:42] <Guest13549> DarkMode : do you want me to tell you some special information - i can go work on the normal OS - and tell you the output
[22:44] <DarKMode> Guest13549 ys i need to know the output of ifconfig -a
[22:44] <zamutnii> How to fix my free disk space count? 'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix it.
[22:44] <Guest13549> DarkMode: i will do it and come back here - if you kindly wait
[22:45] <DarKMode> ok
[22:45] <gustav__> zamutnii: Why did it get like that?
[22:45] <wolfmitchell> jrib, as I'm trying to use luarocks to get luuid, and it's doing this: Error: Could not find expected file libuuid.so for LIBUUID -- you may have to install LIBUUID in your system and/or pass LIBUUID_DIR or LIBUUID_LIBDIR to the luarocks command. Example: luarocks install luuid LIBUUID_DIR=/usr/local
[22:45] <wolfmitchell> and I have uuid-dev installed
[22:46] <DarKMode> wolfmitchell you have lib depandency problem
[22:48] <zamutnii> gustav__, I needed to make a swap partition bigger. It was to the right of my home partition (ext4). I used gparted to reduce the size of the home partition by 1Gb. There was 31Gb available. After gparted said, it was 30 free, I created a swap partition 1Gb bigger, after reboot, my system says that I only have less then a Gig available
[22:48] <elkclone> close
[22:49] <DarKMode> wolfmitchell try apt-get install libuuid
[22:49] <gustav__> zamutnii: Check and verify that the partitions actually became like you wanted.
[22:49] <wolfmitchell> DarKMode, E: Unable to locate package libuuid
[22:49] <wolfmitchell> it's libuuid1
[22:50] <wolfmitchell> "libuuid1 is already the newest version."
[22:50] <DarKMode> wolfmitchell try apt-get install libuuid1
[22:50] <wolfmitchell> did that just now
[22:50] <wolfmitchell> I have it
[22:50] <wolfmitchell> what version is in the repositories?
[22:50] <DarKMode> i forgot the number1 in the end
[22:50] <DarKMode> it libuuid1 not libuuid
[22:50] <wolfmitchell> according to https://github.com/LuaDist/luuid/blob/master/dist.info it needs version 2.16 or above
[22:52] <mehwork> i downloaded google chrome's official .deb package but ubuntu is saying it's a 'bad quality package that could damage my system'... i assume this is obviously not likely and maybe because ubuntu is a little firefox biased?
[22:53] <DarKMode> wolfmitchell it 2.20-1
[22:54] <blackshirt> mehwork, it related you install from third party download .... If you need, maybe better to add google chrome repositories when  available
[22:54] <DarKMode> just try apt-get install libuuid1 and you will be fine
[22:55] <DarKMode> wolfmitchell aptitude show libuuid1 for more informations
[22:55] <zamutnii> gustav___, gparted showed them as I wanted and it shows 30Gb available.
[22:57] <wolfmitchell> DarKMode, I have it already... proof: pastebin.com/qjM8JdUh
[22:58] <ubuntu__> DarkMode: the out put is -  sudo iconfig :command not found
[22:58] <ubuntu__> DarkMode : i want to paste the pictures for you - but i dont know how and where
[22:58] <blackshirt> ifconfig, check your typo
[22:58] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ it not sudo iconfig it sudo ifconfig -a
[22:58] <Magiobiwan> It's ifconfig
[22:59] <ubuntu__> DarkMode : ok I have some picture from test version - i would like to paste it
[22:59] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ifyou can't get ifconfig to work it better to re install the system
[23:00] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ check the usb itegrety befor installing
[23:01] <ubuntu__> DarkMode - if i will reinstall the system from the same copy which i have - what can be the solution ?
[23:01] <ubuntu__> DarkMode - its not going to be the same error
[23:01] <ubuntu__> ?
[23:02] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ yes this way i told you to check for usb integraty
[23:02] <blackshirt> reinstall was just to be last solutions ....
[23:02] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ it in the boot menu
[23:02] <ubuntu__> DarkMode - how to do this - guide me please
[23:03] <DarKMode> wait
[23:03] <blackshirt> If everything should be solved with reinstalling, i think it comes from "windows" world :d :d
[23:03] <gordonjcp> blackshirt: even with Linux there comes a point where it's just easier to nuke and pave a system
[23:03] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ from the system that you are on right now go to the directory where you have the iso image
[23:04] <blackshirt> gordonjcp, sure ... Nothing perfect ...
[23:04] <eeepc> what ever even means
[23:04] <zamutnii> How to fix my free disk space count? 'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix it.
[23:04] <ubuntu__> DarkMode:  Done
[23:05] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ the run md5sum your_buntu_SOfile.iso
[23:05] <DarKMode> paste me the result
[23:07] <ubuntu__> DarkMode : and ?
[23:07] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ paste me the hash line
[23:07] <DarKMode> so i can compare it with the one they have in the website
[23:09] <_jmz_> can anyone help me out with hotlinking protection?  I have literally gone through 50 diff guides for mod_rewrite.  I even tried a python script but it just denies access to everything.  running ubuntu server with apache
[23:09] <ubuntu__> DarkMode: i dont see any thing named HASH line .... are you looking for something related to the wifi? because i see something about the wifi here
[23:10] <ubuntu__> DarkMode : this is what i see here about wifi               ./pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/bcmwl-kernel-source_5.100.82.112+bdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[23:10] <kmicu> How can I find in which texlive package is e.g. citeref.sty ? TexLive 2012 for 12.10 does not contain tlmgr (tex package manager) :/
[23:11] <dz0ny> hi, anybody with deb building experience?
[23:12] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ go to the derectory where the iso file not this one
[23:12] <maslo> is there any way to see ssh tunnel traffic from the actual server? to knwo what is being browsed through the tunnel? if you have root access to the server that is
[23:12] <Meris> I'm trying to format a microSD card of 16GB with EXT2, but I get a warning about reported errors while writing superblocks. Which logfile should I consult to check out the details?
[23:12] <ubuntu__> DarkMode : iam in the directory where i have the ISO
[23:12] <sqwk> When running top I get Mem:   1048576k total,  1048576k used, but adding the processes up get my to at most 15% of memory. What used memory is it talking about?
[23:13] <ubuntu__> DarkMode : i double clicked the iso file - it opened - and i opened the text file you asked me - and i searched for any thing called Hash and i didnt find it
[23:14] <ubuntu__> DarkMode : sorry if i disturb you - but iam new with linux
[23:14] <zamutnii> 'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix my free disk space count?
[23:14] <zamutnii> It should be 30G available.
[23:15] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ when you do the ls you should find a file named ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[23:15] <Meris> ubuntu__, Darkmode means the line that shows you the checksum
[23:15] <DarKMode> ubuntu__ or some thing like that
[23:15] <gordonjcp> hm
[23:16] <gordonjcp> could you make an ISO that contains its own md5sum?
[23:16] <ddssc> hi, I got a cron job that runs a php script. what happens when the script isn't finished executing before a cron starts it again? does it open a new process or kill the running one? if so can this be explicitly controlled?
[23:16] <Meris> gordonjcp, I don't think you can do that, no
[23:17] <DarKMode> gordonjcp of course evry file in have it own checksum
[23:17] <ubuntu__> DarkMode : where can i pastebin for you
[23:17] <crltnmgn> md5 collisions are achievable..
[23:17] <DarKMode> here
[23:17] <gordonjcp> Meris: I think you could, but you'd be in the realms of hash collision computing
[23:17] <DarKMode> or pv
[23:17] <chris_> Hello. I just came from Mint. I am new to linux. I wanted to ask you all if this Distro better than mint for a good all around distro. I'm an average user
[23:17] <crltnmgn> better off hashing everything except the sum?
[23:18] <gordonjcp> crltnmgn: that would be the sane way to do it
[23:18] <Meris> gordonjcp, I have never visited that realm, are there beautiful algorithms lying on the beach there? ;-)
[23:18] <chris_> Hello. I just came from Mint. I am new to linux. I wanted to ask you all if this Distro better than mint for a good all around distro. I'm an average user
[23:18] <ikonia> chris_: no better, no worse, it's personal choice which you like best
[23:18] <ReAzem> chris_, No. Ubuntu uses the same packages, only thing is that you get a different installer and default installer
[23:18] <DarKMode> gordonjcp just do md5sum yourISOfile.iso and you will get it
[23:18] <eeepc> easypeasy's quite cool! :-)
[23:18] <gordonjcp> chris_: mint isn't really supported here, and "my distro is better than your distro" discussions are discouraged
[23:18] <ddssc> hi, I got a cron job that runs a script. what happens when the script isn't finished executing before a cron starts it again? does it open a new process or kill the running one? if so can this be explicitly controlled?
[23:18] <ikonia> chris_: asking the same question in 60 seconds isn't really appreciated
[23:19] <chris_> thank you
[23:19] <chris_> :)
[23:19] <chris_> sorry guys.
[23:19] <ddssc> ikonia: how about 120 seconds?
[23:19] <ddssc> ikonia: how about 2 seconds?
[23:19] <eeepc> tho my ubuntu one control panel doesn't work..
[23:20] <cihhan> Hi all! I need some help for command line: I'm trying to run experiments on different computers and I'm sending run command via ssh. I want to know when all those computers finished experiment so that my script can start another work. Do you have any suggestions for that?
[23:20] <ikonia> cihhan: build logic into the scripts and maybe alerting
[23:21] <xubuntu> Can someone direct me to an Xubuntu server?
[23:21] <ikonia> Guest50378: the channel #xubuntu is for xubuntu discussion
[23:21] <gordonjcp> Guest50378: there's a #xubuntu channel, if that's what you mean
[23:21] <Guest50378> Thanks
[23:21] <chris_> is there a program on linux which tells me who is on my home router network?
[23:21] <cihhan> ikonia: Can u give me example? I dont have much experience with scripting
[23:21] <cihhan> Maybe I should ask that to bash as well?
[23:22] <ikonia> cihhan: the guys in #bash can give you guidence
[23:22] <diver47591> Anyone heard any buzz about Ubuntu for Android?
[23:22] <gordonjcp> chris_: not really; you could look at the DHCP leases table in your router if you're interested
[23:22] <ikonia> no
[23:22] <ddssc> hi, I got a cron job that runs a script. what happens when the script isn't finished executing before a cron starts it again? does it open a new process or kill the running one? if so can this be explicitly controlled?
[23:22] <cihhan> ikonia: thanks a lot :)
[23:22] <gordonjcp> chris_: you could also try nmapping your internal network block
[23:22] <chris_> thank you
[23:22] <escott> cihhan, if you just run "ssh user@host -c experiment.sh &" then just check "jobs"
[23:22] <Meris> diver47591, better to discuss that on #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:22] <dr_willis> diver47591:  theres ububntu in a vm that runs ON android.. then theres ubuntu for arm hardware in #ubuntu-arm
[23:23] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: isn't it a chroot, rather than vm?
[23:23] <cihhan> escott: hmm, let me try that now
[23:23] <escott> cihhan, http://prll.sourceforge.net/shell_parallel.html
[23:23] <diver47591> Thanks,diver out
[23:23] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  i never really tried it. I thought it was using a vm.
[23:23] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: I haven't got anything that'll run it, but a chroot makes more sense
[23:23] <ddssc> anyone here got experience with http://supervisord.org/introduction.html ?
[23:24] <cihhan> escott: hmm, thanks let me read this :)
[23:24] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  theres a dozen of them in differnt vaeriantions on the market. :)
[23:24] <gordonjcp> ye
[23:25] <zamutnii> 'df -lh' shows: size - 576G; used - 546G; Available - 890M. How to fix my free disk space count?
[23:25] <zamutnii> It should be 30G available.
[23:26] <gordonjcp> zamutnii: there is some space reserved for root
[23:26] <Karlo_> GRUB question.  Is (hd0,0) another name for (hd0) ?
[23:26] <brady> hey guys, my wife and i use her ubuntu box on a pretty regular basis to watch flash movies , which for a long time i thought the computer was just going to sleep, but after having exhastively investigated that as the problem, i discovered it was not actually the computer falling asleep, but something about the flash application itself that goes black after a some inactivity of the mouse.. i was curious if there was any sort of hack i could empl
[23:26] <escott> zamutnii, what filesystem is this?
[23:26] <Karlo_> (I'm running GRUB 0.97, it seems.)
[23:27] <dr_willis> Karlo_:  hd0,0 would be the first partion on the first hd in grub talk.
[23:27] <gordonjcp> zamutnii: what happens is that some space is kept aside so that as far as the system itself is concerned (and indeed the root user) the filesystem is never *totally* full
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: No, and why are you using grub legacy?
[23:27] <rinzler> I have an hdtv hooked up via vga. how can I create an xrandr configuration for this output that can fit my display?
[23:27] <gustav__> zamutnii: 30gb available? That's not what you want. I don't know what you mean.
[23:27] <dr_willis> but i THOUGHT grub2 started using  1 for the first partition..
[23:27] <gordonjcp> zamutnii: if / fills up completely all sorts of bad stuff happens
[23:27] <Karlo_> brady, sounds like http://xkcd.com/196/
[23:29] <escott> zamutnii, 5% of 500GB is 25GB so thats where your missing 30GB are. you could release them to other users with tune2fs
[23:29] <Karlo_> Jordan_U, that's what's on my system -- and I can't easily install anything newer until I can get the network up!
[23:29] <Gyro54> Hi!
[23:29] <rinzler> Karlo_: I was thinking the same thing :P
[23:29] <Karlo_> "info grub" does say that it uses origin 1 indexing, which is why I was asking.  But maybe the info file is newer than the grub executable.
[23:29] <brady> lol karlo, hilarous that there is almost an exact comic of my situation
[23:30] <brady> so how can write that mouse jiggling script
[23:30] <Gyro54> I have a problem with my Unity Icons and Libre Calc. The Icon goes blank and I cant access the open spreadsheet?
[23:31] <Karlo_> Aha.  Yes, info grub is describing 1.98, and I'm running 0.97.  How did they get out of sync?
[23:32] <Karlo_> Anyway, it's entirely possible that the feature I *want* is only available in grub2.
[23:32] <dr_willis> Karlo_:  did you do a clean install? or a upgrade?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: Did you install the "grub" package?
[23:33] <zamutnii> gordonjcp, so, how do I release it to user? 30Gig is a lot of reserved space.
[23:33] <gordonjcp> zamutnii: you can adjust it with hdparm
[23:33] <gordonjcp> zamutnii: I recommend leaving it alone
[23:33] <gordonjcp> zamutnii: 30GB is nothing these days
[23:33] <dr_willis> zamutnii:  the tune2fs command can tweak the reserved space on ext2/3/4
[23:33] <gordonjcp> yeah, sorry, tune2fs, not hdparm
[23:34] <dr_willis> I tend to set reserved to be like 0% on my external usb data drives. but like 1% on my system
[23:34] <gordonjcp> zamutnii: seriously, if 30GB is a big deal to you, paypal me 20 quid for postage and I'll send you some 30GB drives instead of binning them
[23:34] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  take them apart and use the shiny disks for mirrors.. and the magnets are fun to play with. ;P
[23:35] <Karlo_> As of about a month ago, I was in a state that I'd assumed to be up to date, according to update-manager; still running 10.04 LTS at that time.  It was during the attempt to upgrade to 12.04.1 LTS that my machine was left unbootable, which is what I've been trying to fix for the last month.
[23:35] <zamutnii> escott, /home (ext4), I have a / on a separate partition, also ext4
[23:35] <gordonjcp> Karlo_: if it's been that problematic, why not just flatten it and reinstall?
[23:35] <dr_willis> 10.04 uses grub2 by default if you id a clean install of it
[23:35] <escott> zamutnii, i initially misread the 800M as 800G its the reserved space of ext4 for root
[23:35] <zamutnii> gustav__, 1G is available, but 30G is needed.
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: What happens when you try to boot? Have you done anything to try to fix it yet?
[23:37] <zamutnii> gordonjcp, nothing when you have the money, currently to buy a new drive, also it's in the netbook :)
[23:38] <LucidGuy> Got me a 40TB ifs filesystem with 88.89% fragmentation .. shall I defrag?
[23:38] <LucidGuy> xfs not ifs
[23:38] <zamutnii> gordonjcp, this happened after I reduced the home partition by 1Gb, using gparted
[23:39] <Jordan_U> LucidGuy: What tool is reporting that fragmentation?
[23:39] <LucidGuy> Jordan_U, xfs_db
[23:40] <Jordan_U> LucidGuy: Could you please pastebin the entire command and its output?
[23:41] <LucidGuy> Sure ..  xfs_db -c frag -r /dev/mapper/device..       output:   actual 134876361, ideal 14984301, fragmentation factor 88.89%
[23:41] <tomehb> Hi, Can anyone recommend a PCI-Express2 network card for Ubuntu? Really struggling with the Broadcom BCM5723 atm :(
[23:42] <Guest7408> ATI RADEON Yo-MaMa 2GDDR4
[23:42] <Karlo_> gordonjcp: I haven't been able to do a fresh install, either.
[23:43] <LucidGuy> Jordan_U, thoughts?
[23:43] <gordonjcp> Karlo_: bummer
[23:43] <gordonjcp> Karlo_: it's a shame my crystal ball is broken, otherwise I could telepathically diagnose it for you
[23:43] <Karlo_> Current state on boot: "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  I've heard that this might be merely the apt-get database being botched -- does that make sense?  (I do know that it *is* in fact botched at this point, but it seems strange that this would be reported as a not-ready disk drive.)
[23:44] <Guest7408> urfix.com
[23:44] <Guest7408> http://www.urfix.com
[23:44] <Karlo_> I can press M to get to maintenance mode (runlevel 1), with a root shell, and I can remount the root directory to be writable, but I haven't found a way to fix things from there.  "apt-get -f install" results in a few dozen errors; evidently it can't fix them without access to the network.  I don't see a way to bring up networking without going to the usual runlevel, and any attempt to do that runs into the original error again.
[23:44] <Guest7408> http://blog.urfix.com
[23:44] <gordonjcp> Karlo_: sounds like something has done something crazy to /etc/fstab
[23:44] <gordonjcp> Karlo_: that would not prevent you running the installer though
[23:45] <thufir_> what do I need to install to get apache to run foo.php files?
[23:46] <ikonia> thufir_: apache and the php module
[23:46] <thufir_>  libapache2-mod-php5   ?
[23:46] <ikonia> thats one
[23:46] <Karlo_> The CD drive doesn't work.  The machine has no option to boot from a Flash drive.  I finally obtained a floppy disk that I can boot from -- and an image of 12.04.1 on a flash drive, which I can tell it to install -- but it either hangs, or kernel panics.  (It's inconsistent.)
[23:47] <ikonia> Karlo_: sounds like a hardwar eproblem
[23:47] <ikonia> problem
[23:47] <thufir_> ikonia: it wants to remove apache2-mpm-worker to install libapache2-mod-php5.  proceed?
[23:47] <ikonia> thufir_: sure
[23:48] <Karlo_> I now have a copy of ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso on the hard disk, but I'm still working on how to make something bootable from there.
[23:49] <ikonia> Karlo_: sounds like a hardware problem
[23:50] <LucidGuy> Jordan_U, or not .. I'm off
[23:51] <metap0d> Hey everyone, I just plugged in a router directly to my computer running 12.10 because i'd like to set it up as an access point. However I'm having issues ... the network manager just keeps spinning as if it's trying to connect and then says "Wired Network Disconnnected" in a notification in the top right
[23:51] <metap0d> I tried running ifconfig eth0, but it's not being given an ip address
[23:51] <Jordan_U> ikonia: The fact that single user mode still works suggests otherwise.
[23:51] <SimonPHOENIX> hello,
[23:51] <metap0d> i'm still very very new at this, but what could I be doing wrong? Someone told me I might have to turn on dhcp for ethernet?
[23:51] <ikonia> Jordan_U: I didn't see a message saying single user mode worked
[23:52] <ikonia> metap0d: ifconfig won't give it an IP
[23:52] <ikonia> metap0d: dhcp will
[23:52] <LuizAngioletti> Hello. I've have U12.04 installed in two different machines, a netbook and a desktop PC. When using the netbook, right-clicking, I get the option of creating a launcher. In the desktop setup, I don't. Why does that happen?
[23:52] <metap0d> ikonia: I was just using it to check if it had an ip, i don't know how to give it one : /
[23:52] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: Do you have a USB drive or blank CD available?
[23:52] <SimonPHOENIX> i have installed icecast2 on my server, but I have problem with connection with my radio, what kind of software from windows system can connect with my icecast2 on linux ubuntu server?
[23:52] <T|ASK> Hi, how to automatically switch to sleep mode after XX minutes?
[23:53] <metap0d> ikonia: I only know of dhcpcd from the book i was reading, how could I turn dhcp on for my ethernet?
[23:53] <ikonia> metap0d: dhcp needs to be running as a server on your router, dhcp as a client needs to be configured on your machine, through network manager
[23:53] <Karlo_> Jordan_U, yes
[23:54] <roots> Whats the command to shutdown?
[23:54] <ascii> shutdown -t1 now
[23:54] <ikonia> shutdown is the command
[23:54] <bkc_> shutdown -h now
[23:55] <T|ASK> to sleep mode?
[23:55] <ascii> hello
[23:55] <Karlo_> I've been doing 4-hop copying to get files from the Web onto the broken machine's disk.  Slow but effective.
[23:55] <ascii> I'm having some trouble installing lubuntu 12.04. I've tried asking on #lubuntu, but there is nobody there to help
[23:55] <bkc_> T|ASK: no, auto-sleep is controlled by the PowerManager in settings
[23:56] <metap0d> ikonia: I'll check the router then, brb
[23:56] <ascii> maybe somebody could help here
[23:56] <bkc_> ascii: shoot
[23:56] <T|ASK> and I can't set them via system settings here?
[23:56] <ascii> i'll copy paste
 hello
 I'm having problems installing lubuntu on a notebok
 notebook
 acer aspire 3620
 it freezes when detecting hardware
 no mouse response
[23:56] <FloodBot1> ascii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <bkc_> T|ASK: what?
[23:56] <bkc_> !paste | ascii
[23:56] <taha> anyone here on a sony vaio z series with hybrid graphics?
[23:57] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: Do you have another Ubuntu machine that's functioning better, or a LiveCD/USB (of any kind) you can use? (while you can make a bootable USB from here, it's easier to do from a more sane environment).
[23:57] <bkc_> ascii: I'm guessing you need too set nomodeset on the boot parameters for the kernel :)
[23:58] <ascii> oh, did you manage to read that?
[23:58] <bkc_> 6lines
[23:58] <ascii> wait
[23:58] <ascii> a sec
[23:58] <bkc_> or 2 ;)
[23:58] <ascii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1352132/
[23:58] <Karlo_> I have a friend running Ubuntu, at the other end of a chat line right now.  She's been asking me to do the same commands in lockstep, but it seems we have different versions of grub, among other things.
[23:58] <ascii> there you go
[23:59] <T|ASK> bkc_:  oh, I see power maanger not brightness settings
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: So you don't have another GNU/Linux system of any sort yourself, correct?