[00:10] <rlaager> I'd imagine this is a FAQ, but my Googling isn't finding me anything that works. I'm switching from GNOME to XFCE, but I'd like to use nautilus instead of thunar as my file manager (because thunar doesn't respect .hidden files). I've changed it in the "Preferred Applications" section of the Settings Manager, but no luck.
[00:30] <ball> hello GridCube
[00:30] <GridCube> hi
[00:30] <GridCube> :)
[00:31] <GridCube> rlaager, what do you mean by "(because thunar doesn't respect .hidden files)"?
[00:32] <rlaager> GridCube: If you have a file named .hidden with a list of files/directories in it, Nautilus will hide those folders (in addition to the normal behavior of hiding files whose names start with "."). Thunar does not do that.
[00:33] <GridCube> rlaager, oh, i see
[00:33] <GridCube> never heard of that, sorry.
[00:34] <rlaager> It seems the issue is that Thunar is still managing my desktop. So when I click on a folder there, it opens within that Thunar process, even though my setting is to use Nautilus.
[00:34] <GridCube> you could simple purge thunar
[00:38] <rlaager> It seems that if I give up on the idea of a desktop and stick a launcher in my panel, I can get more-or-less what I want.
[00:40] <GridCube> what is that you want?
[00:41] <GridCube> oh, you want not using thunar as the default exo-open for directories
[00:43] <ball> I like Thunar, me.
[00:44] <GridCube> rlaager, you should edit it here: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-101112-214407.php
[00:46] <ball> I've just discovered "Emblems"
[00:47] <GridCube> haha, they been there since like forever, never found a reason to use them though
[00:48] <ball> I just put a "Music" emblem on my daughter's jTunes folder.
[01:12] <adnanh> ball, hahaha :)
[01:15] <adnanh> rlaager
[01:15] <adnanh> try adding FileManger=nautilus to the ~/.config/xfce4/helpers.rc file
[01:15] <adnanh> FileManager=
[01:15] <adnanh> do not copy that line, it's got a typo xD
[05:23] <xubuntu984> hi
[05:23] <xubuntu984> anybody active there?
[05:23] <xubuntu984> need some help regarding installation
[05:26] <xubuntu518> hey, anyone know how to re-enable hibernation?
[05:26] <raytray> xubuntu984, what about?
[05:27] <raytray> xubuntu518, settings->power manager not able to help you?
[05:27] <xubuntu984> well it is about the reinstall option im getting some errors
[05:27] <xubuntu518> i've got an old thinkpad r61 that hibernated fine in 12.04 and am willing to bet that hibernate will work fine
[05:27] <xubuntu518> hibernate is greyed out.
[05:27] <xubuntu518> *buntu 12.04 hibernation was disabled across the board, but could be re enabled
[05:28] <xubuntu518> the magic to get it working in 12.04 doesn't seem to work in 12.10
[05:28] <raytray> By magic, xubuntu518, do you mean http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation ?
[05:29] <xubuntu984> im getting alot of ubiquity: warning: root:cant add "insert package name" (E: unable to correct  problems, you have held brocken packages)
[05:29] <xubuntu518> yes.
[05:29] <xubuntu518> thanks  btw raytray.
[05:29] <xubuntu984> sorry for typos
[05:30] <raytray> Sorry can't really help either of you in that case, perhaps someone more knowledgable will see it then.
[05:30] <xubuntu518> eh, looks like theres a fix on launchpad, brb
[05:30] <xubuntu984> i just wanna know if the reinstall option has trouble in generally or not
[05:30] <raytray> I do not believe it does. How are you trying to reinstall btw?
[05:31] <xubuntu984> from the downloaded iso wich i burned on a cd
[05:32] <xubuntu984> i just thought it might have some known issues
[05:33] <xubuntu270> back oops pushed the wrog button
[05:36] <xubuntu270> so im waiting now actually and will see what will happen, but itkeeps telling me
[05:37] <xubuntu270> about 10 mins restoring previously installed packages
[05:37] <xubuntu518> raytray that link did, work.  Either i missed something in the copy&paste or the config file needed a hard return at the EOF.
[05:37] <xubuntu518> thanks!
[05:42] <raytray> xubuntu270, if you get to a stage where you are able to login, I woudl suggest running the command sudo apt-get install -f
[07:25] <abnormalcy> hi, im trying to run xubuntu from my laptop but cant seem to see the load screen until after gui is started
[07:26] <abnormalcy> can someone help me type blind, i just want to run with toram option
[07:26] <abnormalcy> i thought it used to be f6 to enter boot options, then hit [end] to begin typing at end of kernel boot line, but i cant seem to get it working now
[07:27] <abnormalcy> load screen just not working with my laptops display modes at all
[08:32] <Guest33671> how to know what's using a certain port number?
[08:36] <Guest33671> deebo, how to know what's using a certain port number?
[08:37] <deebo> netstat
[08:46] <Guest33671>  I can't run a web project from Eclipse.
[08:46] <Guest33671> I get that error
[08:46] <Guest33671> Several ports (8005, 8009) required by Tomcat v7.0 Server at localhost are already in use. The server may already be running in another process, or a system process may be using the port. To start this server you will need to stop the other process or change the port number(s).
[08:46] <Guest33671> I changed 8080 to 8181
[08:46] <Guest33671> but still getting the error for 8005 and 8009
[09:12] <adnanh> Guest15310, try netstat -la |grep 8005
[09:12] <adnanh> and netstat -la |grep 8009
[09:14] <chris_> Hi guys, can someone tell me how to remove only one package from the system, not all included in xubuntu-desktop? I think it's something related with meta packages but can't understant it. Where I can find the meta package for Xubuntu and remove it? Thanks in advance :]
[09:18] <Guest15310> adnanh, "tcp6       0      0 localhost:8005          [::]:*                  LISTEN "  showed up. What does it mean?
[09:18] <adnanh> well it means something is listening on it haha
[09:19] <adnanh> ok now
[09:19] <adnanh> try netstat -tulpn |grep 8005
[09:19] <adnanh> and copy me output
[09:21] <adnanh> if it gives you error try sudo netstat -tulpn |grep 8005
[09:22] <adnanh> Guest15310 :)
[09:24] <adnanh> chris_ which package are you trying to remove
[09:46] <adnanh> Guest15310 are you still here?
[10:06] <lancest> Looking for keyboard help enabling sound, fwd etc
[10:24] <c2tarun> is there anyway of splitting thunar in two different destinations so I can copy from one place to other easily?
[10:25] <knome> c2tarun, open a new window
[10:25] <c2tarun> knome, :(
[10:26] <c2tarun> the only thing I missed in xubuntu is file browser is little less in features (very fast though but little less)
[10:26] <c2tarun> knome, can you suggest me some light and fast file browser with splitting feature?
[10:27] <c2tarun> and is there any way of making it default?
[10:28] <knome> i suppose pcmanfm. and apps menu -> (settings ->) settings manager -> preferred applications -> tab utilities
[10:29] <c2tarun> knome, great :) thanks a lot
[10:33] <lancest> Howto get keyboard (volume,fwd,stop,etc) working for sound indicator & Gmusicbrowser anyone?
[10:48] <c2tarun> lancest, go to settings editor
[10:50] <c2tarun> lancest, then in xfce4-mixer change the value of active card to PlaybackBuiltinAudioAnalogStereoPulseAudioMixer
[10:50] <c2tarun> lancest, as soon as you'll save it your sound driver might crash, reboot your machine then it'll work
[10:51] <c2tarun> lancest, please let me know if it does.
[10:54] <baizon> for me that worked: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350255/
[10:56] <adnanh> c2tarun, you could try tux commander if you want something like midnight commander :)
[10:56] <baizon> i recommend double commander
[10:57] <adnanh> :)
[10:57] <baizon> using it by myself
[10:58] <lancest> Ok gonna try
[10:58] <xubuntu154> hi all
[10:59] <tomatopotato> is there a way to make a radeon x1950 pro 256mb work with xubuntu+ acceleration
[10:59] <baizon> !hi | tomatopotato
[11:00] <adnanh> tomatopotato, what version of xubuntu do you have?
[11:01] <tomatopotato> 12.10
[11:01] <tomatopotato> i did all the updates first
[11:02] <baizon> tomatopotato: kernel 3.7 got a nice boost for ati
[11:02] <tomatopotato> when i install for example mesa tools and check glxinfo it says dri enabled but, when i try for example a 3d accelerated game it shows nothing, also glxgears does not show anything
[11:03] <adnanh> hmm did you try installing catalyst drivers from amd
[11:03] <tomatopotato> 3.7 ? is it in the ubuntu software center available or would ihave to compile it bymyself?
[11:04] <tomatopotato>  yes adnanh, i tryed those from the website downloaded it and tryed to install but the install fails
[11:04] <adnanh> what does the fail message say
[11:04] <baizon> tomatopotato: you would have to wait until ubuntu 13.04
[11:05] <tomatopotato> something about it cant extract th file
[11:05] <tomatopotato> thx baizon, whats the schedule for 13.04? is it april?
[11:06] <baizon> yes
[11:06] <adnanh> you tried these drivers? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[11:07] <adnanh> oops
[11:07] <adnanh> meant these http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[11:07] <tomatopotato> yes exatly that one
[11:07] <tomatopotato> sorry for typos
[11:08] <tomatopotato> i tried also to download it a few times couse i thought the file might be damadged
[11:08] <adnanh> how did you try to install it
[11:08] <adnanh> did you run it as normal user or super user
[11:08] <baizon> amd doesnt support older graphic cards
[11:09] <tomatopotato> and when i install the drivers from the ubuntu software center, after restart the system wont boot into xface
[11:09] <baizon> i mean the legacy one
[11:09] <tomatopotato> adnanh i triedboth, the same problem happens
[11:10] <adnanh> ok, try checking this guide out http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide
[11:10] <adnanh> make sure to check is your card supported
[11:10] <adnanh> and what can you do if it's not
[11:11] <tomatopotato> thnx ill take a look
[11:12] <tomatopotato> btw i tried also that xorg edger method
[11:13] <adnanh> I think your gfx is probably not supported by proprietary driver (mine was on 12.04 but in 12.10 is not anymore xD)
[11:13] <adnanh> but the opensource driver is still better than nothing
[11:13] <tomatopotato> i wonder why they drop support for older gfx cards
[11:14] <adnanh> well they say they want to focus on new stuff rather than legacy
[11:14] <adnanh> I just say they want us to buy new gfxes :P
[11:14] <tomatopotato> i completely agree
[11:14] <tomatopotato> what is the problem with my old card anyway?
[11:15] <adnanh> it's not getting them any new money :P
[11:15] <adnanh> I have to go now
[11:15] <adnanh> good luck with that
[11:15] <tomatopotato> thx alot,
[11:20] <c2tarun> when I installed krusader I got message of 60MB will be downloaded and 205 MB will be used. When I am doing 'sudo apt-get remove --purge krusader' I am getting that only 11.7MB will be freed, why?
[11:21] <tomatopotato> i guess it is not removing the dependencies
[11:22] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, so after purging I should run sudo apt-get autoremove and then it'll free 205MB's?
[11:23] <tomatopotato> i guess it depends
[11:23] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yup :) it worked thanks
[11:23] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, depends on what?
[11:23] <tomatopotato> if the packages are used for other applicationsthen they will not be removed
[11:23] <c2tarun> yeah
[11:24] <baizon> c2tarun: all Qt dependencies will stay
[11:24] <baizon> i mean not all but some of them
[11:25] <c2tarun> baizon, yup, but most of them are removed, I got message of 214 MBs will be free
[11:25] <baizon> nice
[11:26] <tomatopotato> btw. is there a way to extrakt the .ron file from the ati catalyst file on the website?
[11:26] <tomatopotato> oops mean .run
[11:27] <tomatopotato> c2tarun did you run the autoremove?
[11:27] <baizon> tomatopotato: yes make it runable and run
[11:28] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yeah just did few minutes back. it worked
[11:28] <tomatopotato> yes but the script seems not to be able to exectute correctly under xubuntu 12.10
[11:29] <tomatopotato> c2tarun, so... problem solved?
[11:29] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yup :)
[11:29] <tomatopotato> se you solved it by yourself :)
[11:29] <c2tarun> nope, I asked you few minutes back and you told. you just forgot ;)
[11:30] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, ^^
[11:30] <tomatopotato> but you said to exectute autoremove
[11:30] <tomatopotato> anyway im glad its solved lol
[11:30] <c2tarun> :)
[11:34] <tomatopotato> is there a way to edit a .run file?
[11:35] <tomatopotato> it seems like there is a path problem and thats why it will not extract on xubuntu 12.10
[11:35] <knome> if it's a text-file, then just open it in any text editor
[11:35] <knome> if it's binary, no, you can't edit it
[11:35] <tomatopotato> its a binary
[11:36] <tomatopotato> im talking about the ati driver from the official amd website
[11:36] <knome> you can't edit it.
[11:36] <tomatopotato>  can i extract the .run file?
[11:37] <tomatopotato> i mean in a different way
[11:37] <knome> read the instructions from ati site, but i believe not.
[11:39] <tomatopotato> this is the error msg i get when i try to execute it
[11:39] <knome> if it's multiline, use !pastebin
[11:39] <knome> !pastebin | tomatopotato
[11:40] <tomatopotato> http://pastebin.com/kSSBCyyv here the error
[11:40] <c2tarun> is installing heavy applications like, digikam/GwenView/Krusader going to affect startup time of xubuntu? (none of them are in list of startup applications)
[11:41] <tomatopotato> c2tarun, i think it should not affect it, but i might be wrong
[11:42] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, hmm... I thought same. Can anyone else confirm?
[11:42] <tomatopotato> i guess it depends if thy need some additional services
[11:43] <c2tarun> I really love the way in which xubuntu starts in figuratively no time. I dont want to slow it, but ristretto is not that good, I am trying GwenView (few months back when I was using Kubuntu, this worked great)
[11:44] <knome> c2tarun, only the application startup time should be longer, except if the applications make the system load something on boot
[11:45] <c2tarun> there is also one more thing Xubuntu need to fix :( I installed GwenView and its neither in Graphics nor in Applications
[11:45] <c2tarun> Accessories**
[11:46] <TheSheep> !bugs | c2tarun
[11:47] <c2tarun> TheSheep, thanks :) I'll surely do it.
[11:47] <tomatopotato> c2tarun, you can fix that  manually
[11:48] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yeah I can and I'll surely do :) but this feature worked for other apps like clementine and deluge and chromium
[11:49] <tomatopotato> i guess it depends on the package if the entry is correct
[11:49] <tomatopotato> then again some ppl might see gwenview as an acsessory
[11:50] <c2tarun> yeah, it is little bit confusing so I looked at both places :)
[11:50] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, do you know from where can I edit that menu to put GwenView at right place?
[11:52] <tomatopotato> i guess you could always do it with the terminal go to /usr/share/acsessories and move the application to te menu you would like to
[11:53] <tomatopotato> or is it ~/Applications/acsessorie?
[11:53] <tomatopotato> or is it ~/Applications/acsessories?
[11:54] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, I couldn't find accessories anywhere :(
[11:55] <tomatopotato> hrmm
[11:55] <c2tarun> let me google it
[11:55] <tomatopotato> might have an other name or might be a file with the path entered
[11:56] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yup got that :) http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3499-xubuntu-modifying-the-applications-menu#modifying-the-menu
[11:57] <tomatopotato> ah just find the file (xxx.desktop) in applications an then edit it with vi or whatever you like
[11:58] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, I dont know which file I am looking for :( that gxine.desktop file is not there.
[11:59] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, do I have to create on .desktop file for gwenview?
[11:59] <tomatopotato> if its not in there, then yes
[11:59]  * c2tarun trying
[12:00] <tomatopotato> you can just take the .desktop file from a different application, duplicate and rename it and then edit
[12:03] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, Yup I copied file for ristretto
[12:03] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, it worked :)
[12:03] <c2tarun> thanks
[12:03] <tomatopotato> yw
[12:03] <tomatopotato> in the meanwhile i managed to extract the binary .run file
[12:04] <tomatopotato> so any idea how i would aproach to install the driver manually?
[12:07] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, what driver are you trying to install?
[12:07] <tomatopotato> im trying to make my x1950 to run with dri 3d acceleration
[12:07] <tomatopotato> radeon PCIe gfx
[12:08] <tomatopotato> the interesting thin is, since they started to try and automate many things in linux, things started to break down on many distros,
[12:09] <tomatopotato> also xorg was way easier to configure 7 years ago, well at least for me lol
[12:11] <tomatopotato> is there anything else i could help maybe with c2tarun?
[12:13] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, nope it worked fine :) thanks
[12:14] <tomatopotato> gich
[12:18] <tomatopotato> btw is there a way to remove nepomuk compeletely without breaking anything?
[12:18] <JMS32> Hello.  How to load kernel module with parameters in every boot?
[12:19] <tomatopotato> make a script
[12:19] <JMS32> tomatopotato, And where it must be for correct working?
[12:20] <JMS32> (i'm need sudo rmmod, sudo modprobe inside)
[12:20] <tomatopotato> depends on when it should be executed
[12:21] <tomatopotato> you must see in wich runlevel usually you would need this
[12:21] <JMS32> Early is better
[12:21] <tomatopotato> you must see when the dependencies are loaded (if any)
[12:22] <tomatopotato> but maybe there is a different approach
[12:22] <tomatopotato> i might be wrong all along
[12:22] <JMS32> Hm.... How to see this?
[12:23] <tomatopotato> what do you want to do
[12:23] <tomatopotato> maybe its easier if i understan what you want to achive
[12:23] <JMS32> tomatopotato, i'm just need to reload saa7134 module with correct parameters, becouse without it my device not working correctly
[12:24] <tomatopotato> what is that device
[12:25] <JMS32> tomatopotato, cctv card
[12:25] <tomatopotato> got it its a tv tuner
[12:25] <JMS32> yes
[12:25] <JMS32> like tv tuner, but a lot of inputs
[12:25] <tomatopotato> well can you execute the parameters after boot?
[12:27] <tomatopotato> how do you di it currently?
[12:27] <JMS32> I can execute "sudo rmmod saa7134 && sudo modprobe -v saa7134 card=177" after boot and card will work
[12:27] <tomatopotato> well then you have just to make a script and put it in the right place
[12:27] <JMS32> I'm writes this in console
[12:28] <JMS32> Where i must put it?
[12:28] <tomatopotato> usually in /etc/rc.d
[12:29] <JMS32> tomatopotato, thanks. I will try right now
[12:30] <JMS32> My /etc/rc.d is empty. Is it ok?
[12:30] <tomatopotato> shouldnt be a problem
[12:30] <tomatopotato> or
[12:31] <tomatopotato> you could install webmin and do it trough webmin
[12:31] <JMS32> ok. I'm must write command with sudo or without it?
[12:31] <tomatopotato> i think it has an easy to use interface
[12:31] <JMS32> ok. I will install webmin
[12:31] <JMS32> (already using it on other server)
[12:32] <tomatopotato> you must write the file as su
[12:32] <tomatopotato> the owner must be root
[12:35] <JMS32> 10 minutes for downloadinf webmin. Nice
[12:36] <knome> tomatopotato, JMS32: please use sudo, not su.
[12:37] <tomatopotato> i will knome, can you please explain me the difference?, beside that i can messup if im loged in as su
[12:37] <tomatopotato> i mean, is it a security risk?
[12:38] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: traditionally, it is considered a security risk
[12:38] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: top that off with some people running random commands as root, per suggestions from irc
[12:39] <tomatopotato> but isnt the SU by default active?
[12:39] <knome> tomatopotato, there is no root user in ubuntu
[12:40] <tomatopotato> sure np,  i meant to write sudo but my fingerswere lazy
[12:41] <tomatopotato> im sorry for the inquiery, but what do you mean that there is no root user in kubuntu?
[12:41] <nyRednek> question, i installed irssi-otr...which script is that to load?
[12:42] <tomatopotato> what do you mean nyrednek?
[12:42] <JMS32> tomatopotato, ok. I'm havewebmin. Where to put my commands?
[12:43] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: well, i use bitlbee for instant messaging
[12:43] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: and i installed otr plugins(off the record)
[12:43] <nyRednek> i want to use them, but /script load otr doesn't exactly work
[12:43] <tomatopotato> jms32 there is somewhere an option called startupscripts you can paste you sript there
[12:44] <JMS32> upstart?
[12:45] <tomatopotato> startup
[12:45] <tomatopotato> nyrednek irssi-otr is something like a irc client?
[12:46] <nyRednek> nevermind
[12:46] <nyRednek> well, irssi is an irc client
[12:46] <nyRednek> otr is a plugin
[12:47] <tomatopotato> what do you want to do exatly?
[12:47] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: did you really just ask that question? how long have you been using linux?
[12:47] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: also, i said nevermind
[12:47] <tomatopotato> not so long about 10-11 years, but i never used irc
[12:48] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: so you used linux for 10-11 years and never felt the need to use irc to socialize, collaborate, etc?
[12:49] <tomatopotato> what syould i say.. im not a that social person
[12:49] <nyRednek> i find that hard to believe
[12:49] <tomatopotato> syould=should
[12:50] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: www.irssi.org
[12:51] <tomatopotato> im more the msg board person
[12:54] <tomatopotato> JMS32 you there yet?
[12:54] <JMS32> I'm here
[12:55] <tomatopotato> i might be wroung tough with my aproach, maybe somebody else knows a beter solution
[12:55] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: yeah, i still find it hard to believe...irc a part of linux culture
[12:55] <JMS32> tomatopotato, in first look it works, now i'm checking it with cctv system. It takes a long of time, becouse very slow internet
[12:55] <tomatopotato> it does not matter nyrednek
[12:56] <tomatopotato> besides i never said im a very good expierienced used lol
[12:57] <tomatopotato> in fact i need help myseflf with the ati radeon x1950 driver
[12:57] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: screen lock?
[12:58] <tomatopotato> ati radeon x1950 pro
[12:58] <tomatopotato> nope
[12:58] <tomatopotato> cant get hardware aceleration t work
[12:58] <JMS32> tomatopotato, Thanks you very much anyway. You helped me with bootup script
[12:58] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: oh, hardware acceleration with ati is hit and miss
[12:58] <tomatopotato> im glad it worked out jms32
[12:59] <tomatopotato> i figured that much
[12:59] <tomatopotato> lol
[12:59] <tomatopotato> brb
[13:01] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: not dismissing you, just sharing that no matter what you do, it may not work
[13:03] <tomatopotato> sorry i dont understand what do you mean with not dismissing
[13:04] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: in other words, i'm not stating that the issue isn't valid
[13:04] <tomatopotato> ah ic
[13:05] <tomatopotato> so how would i approach the problem?
[13:06] <JMS32> Heh. CCTV system not working in 12.10, but working in 12.04. Fine)
[13:07] <tomatopotato> any errors?
[13:08] <JMS32> tomatopotato, i don't know. I don't know where to find logs :)
[13:08] <tomatopotato> wmesg
[13:08] <tomatopotato> dmesg
[13:08] <JMS32> Tech support not answered yet
[13:09] <JMS32> tomatopotato, already saw. Looks clear
[13:09] <JMS32> tomatopotato, I'm speaking about programm for monitoring, not device. Device is working fine in all linux system :)
[13:10] <tomatopotato> so this could be application related
[13:10] <tomatopotato> is there any debug mode (option) for the application
[13:11] <JMS32> tomatopotato, no. It's very strange application, but very good for cheap CCTV
[13:11] <JMS32> tomatopotato, no documentation at all
[13:11] <JMS32> ivideon
[13:12] <tomatopotato> what does the application do when you try to run it?
[13:12] <JMS32> I m not starting it. It starts on boot
[13:12] <tomatopotato> there might be some open soucrce alternative
[13:12] <JMS32> And i have acces only via localhost website
[13:13] <tomatopotato> maybe if i would understand how the application works
[13:13] <JMS32> tomatopotato, yes... But for a;ternative i must have VPN server for access monitoring remotely
[13:13] <tomatopotato> i mean what it does and how you use it what you want to do
[13:13] <JMS32> tomatopotato, ivideon.ru
[13:14] <JMS32> tomatopotato, http://ivideon.com/ is english
[13:14] <Guest48133> hi guys
[13:14] <JMS32> Guest48133, hi
[13:15] <tomatopotato> jms32 so localy it works?
[13:15] <tomatopotato> hi guest
[13:15] <JMS32> tomatopotato, can't understand
[13:15] <JMS32> tomatopotato, it works on 12.04
[13:15] <Guest48133> I got some problems with flashplayer in Firefox, someone can help me?
[13:15] <nyRednek> Guest48133: what problems?
[13:15] <tomatopotato> i mean you would like to use and acsess the video feeds remotely. right?
[13:15] <JMS32> tomatopotato, in 12.10 localhost website writes an error
[13:16] <JMS32> tomatopotato, yes
[13:16] <tomatopotato> whats the problem guest?
[13:16] <Guest48133> it doesn't work
[13:16] <nyRednek> Guest48133: did you install flash in the first place?
[13:16] <tomatopotato> is flash properly installed?
[13:17] <nyRednek> Guest48133: and if you installed it, did you restart your browser?
[13:17] <Guest48133> yes it is
[13:17] <Guest48133> yes i resterted firefox
[13:17] <tomatopotato> is there any error message?
[13:18] <Guest48133> no one... it just doesn't work
[13:18] <nyRednek> Guest48133: in firefox, go to the site about:plugins
[13:18] <nyRednek> Guest48133: tell me if there is a line regarding flash
[13:18] <tomatopotato>  btw jms32 are the web services started for that aplication? )deamon)?
[13:18] <Guest48133> ok just a second
[13:19] <JMS32> tomatopotato, looks like yes
[13:19] <tomatopotato> is the port open jms32?
[13:19] <Guest48133> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf
[13:19] <Guest48133> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl
[13:20] <nyRednek> Guest48133: now try to access youtube
[13:20] <JMS32> tomatopotato, 80 port is open
[13:20] <Guest48133> ok
[13:20] <JMS32> tomatopotato, and i can access it. Othe ports is not requested
[13:20] <Guest48133>  nyRednek it doesn't work yet
[13:20] <JMS32> tomatopotato, it uses apache webserver
[13:20] <Guest48133> i can't see videos
[13:21] <JMS32> tomatopotato, and PHP for controlling as i'm know
[13:21] <tomatopotato> so when you try to connect what error msg do ou get?
[13:21] <nyRednek> Guest48133: try to remove and reinstall flash
[13:22] <JMS32> tomatopotato, me? Page is loaded and i can see "Внутренняя ошибка" (rus. Internal error)
[13:22] <JMS32> Nothing more
[13:22] <Guest48133> nyRednek: in wich way should i do that
[13:22] <nyRednek> Guest48133: with synaptic
[13:22] <Guest48133> by synatpic or by the official site
[13:22] <JMS32> I'm used php debugger. Looks like someting goes wrong with php-cli and accessing it
[13:22] <Guest48133> oh ok
[13:22] <tomatopotato> d try to accsess via LAN or WAN?
[13:23] <JMS32> tomatopotato, no difference
[13:23] <tomatopotato> the only explenation i would have is, the deamon is not running, or some services are not started or missing
[13:24] <JMS32> maybe yes maybe no...
[13:24] <tomatopotato> or maybe the installtion is not done properly?
[13:25] <JMS32> tomatopotato, installation is via apt-get. And all looks fine
[13:25] <tomatopotato> or its blocked? you said locally it works, but you cant accsess from a different computer, could be a firewall problem
[13:27] <Guest48133> nyRednek: done, but it still doesn't work
[13:27] <nyRednek> Guest48133: don't know what to tell you...
[13:27] <Guest48133> lol
[13:28] <Guest48133> ok mate, don't worry, thanks :)
[13:29] <tomatopotato> guest, did you try chrome?
[13:29] <Guest48133> Nope
[13:29] <Guest48133> tomatopotato: but i want to use firefox :P
[13:29] <tomatopotato> if it doesnt work with chrome, then you migt have a different problem
[13:29] <Guest48133> tomatopotato: ok, i will try then
[13:30] <Guest48133> sorry for my bad english guys, but i'm italian :P
[13:31] <tomatopotato> dont worry, im not perfect either lol
[13:31] <Guest48133> hahahah XD
[13:33] <JMS323> and i'm russian)
[13:33]  * not_found lurks the xubuntu channel...
[13:33] <tomatopotato> wb jms32
[13:34] <tomatopotato> you got my last msg?
[13:34] <JMS323> wb?
[13:34] <JMS323> no
[13:34] <JMS323> internet problems
 or maybe the installtion is not done properly?
[13:35] <tomatopotato> or its blocked? you said locally it works, but you cant accsess from a different computer, could be a firewall problem
 tomatopotato, installation is via apt-get. And all looks fine
[13:35] <JMS323> * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
[13:36] <tomatopotato> any result, guest?
[13:36] <Guest48133> tomatopotato: uhm, it doesn't work in chrome
[13:37] <JMS323> tomatopotato, i can access it from any place
[13:37] <JMS323> tomatopotato, but in weites internal error
[13:37] <tomatopotato> are the scripts in /www?
[13:38] <Guest48133> tomatopotato: i give up, im tiret to fight with flash lol
[13:38] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes
[13:38] <tomatopotato> lol guest
[13:38] <JMS323> tomatopotato, not really in /www, but some simlinks
[13:38] <tomatopotato> did you check the permissions jms3?
[13:38] <JMS323> tomatopotato, but it works with apache webserver
[13:38] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes. all is ok
[13:39] <JMS323> even tryed chmod 777
[13:39] <tomatopotato> i mean permissions of the html files
[13:39] <tomatopotato> is apache running?
[13:39] <JMS323> tomatopotato, all is ok with webserver
[13:39] <tomatopotato> put a text test file
[13:40] <JMS323> tomatopotato, but why? Php scripts are working ok
[13:40] <tomatopotato> so you can accsess other things via web server but not that thing
[13:40] <tomatopotato> maybe i misunderstand you
[13:40] <JMS323> tomatopotato, this error is a result of PHP exceptionin code
[13:41] <JMS323> tomatopotato, http://cs419619.userapi.com/v419619199/69d/Sq9RH4O9AiQ.jpg
[13:41] <JMS323> screenshot
[13:41] <tomatopotato> you got php installed correctly?
[13:41] <JMS323> i'm getting this. (rus. internal error)
[13:41] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes
[13:42] <tomatopotato> the scripts permissions are ok?
[13:42] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes
[13:42] <tomatopotato> is there a config file?
[13:42] <tomatopotato> maybe you must run the config script first
[13:42] <JMS323> tomatopotato, no
[13:43] <JMS323> tomatopotato, config is inside page, but it is no accesible becouse error :)
[13:43] <tomatopotato> what is the config files name?
[13:43] <JMS323> tomatopotato, no name. Mysql database
[13:44] <tomatopotato> aha...
[13:44] <JMS323> tomatopotato, it haves only cctv-releated parameters
[13:44] <tomatopotato> is mysql up and running?
[13:44] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes of cource :)
[13:44] <JMS323> tomatopotato, looks strange, right?
[13:45] <tomatopotato> tell me whats in in the /ww folder
[13:45] <tomatopotato> tell me whats in in the /www folder
[13:45] <tomatopotato> how many files what are the file names
[13:45] <JMS323> tomatopotato, all is working on 12.04 (now)
[13:45] <Guest15310> How to deal with .jar files?
[13:45] <JMS323> tomatopotato,  5 sec
[13:46] <unrar> wohai
[13:46] <JMS323> tomatopotato, nothing becouse it uses apache config to use other directory
[13:46] <tomatopotato> you need java guest
[13:47] <tomatopotato> huh?
[13:47] <tomatopotato> i dont get it
[13:47] <Guest15310> I have java installed.
[13:47] <tomatopotato> where are the config files then located?
[13:47] <tomatopotato> i mean that webinterface
[13:47] <Guest15310> guess /usr/lib/jvm/
[13:47] <Guest15310> what web interface?
[13:48] <tomatopotato> sorry that was for jms
[13:48] <JMS323> tomatopotato, /opt/ivideon/ivideon-server-webui/www
[13:49] <tomatopotato> ok is then apache path correctly linked to that path?
[13:49] <JMS323> yes. And files inside works
[13:49] <JMS323> tomatopotato, but makes strange exception inside
[13:50] <tomatopotato> what kinda?
[13:56] <c2tarun> Thunar doesn't display folder size in size column. :( why so? it displays 4KB everywhere
[13:57] <TheSheep> c2tarun: that's the size of a single directory entry on your filesystem
[13:58] <TheSheep> c2tarun: if you want to see the size of everything inside, either look into properties, or use somehting like baobab
[13:59] <c2tarun> TheSheep, there is no way I can get everything displayed in the column?
[14:01] <JMS323> oh. disconected again
[14:02] <JMS323> tomatopotato, i'm must to go. Thanksfor trying to help me
[14:02] <TheSheep> c2tarun: no, that would be too slow
[14:03] <c2tarun> TheSheep, hmm... you are right, thanks :)
[14:09] <milo64> hi
[14:09] <milo64> You disabled the shortcut for CTRL+F11, CTRL+F12... I need to increase CPU cycles, but I can't
[14:10] <milo64> you = xubuntu
[14:10] <milo64> they don't work
[14:10] <milo64> they must've been taken by sys
[14:15] <nicklasbo> Hi all. After installing Xubuntu 12.10 on my laptop, sound from the speakers doesn't work. It worked in 12.04. I have tried settings the correct outputs in Sound Settings and double checked in alsamixer that they are not muted. Sound from headphones works fine. I have tried the Ubuntu Sound Troubleshooting guide. Where do I continue?
[14:15] <c2tarun> nicklasbo, is xubuntu is the first ubuntu distro you tried?
[14:17] <nicklasbo> c2tarun: On this specific laptop yes
[14:17] <milo64> hey
[14:17] <milo64> :(
[14:23] <Luciferis> hello, i installed xubuntu alongside with ubuntu and Ubuntu studio on partitions, but, xubuntu doesnt appear on my boot options. What can i do?
[14:27] <tomatopotato> you could configure grub to have an option to choose what system to start from
[14:29] <Luciferis> Well, normally i have the option to boot from the two first ones, the one i want, but i suppose this Xubuntu should appear too. Anyhow, how do i configure grub?
[14:31] <tomatopotato> maybe this will help http://syrlug.org/contrib/grublinux.html
[14:33] <tomatopotato> or maybe this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:36] <tomatopotato> nicklasbo what is your soundcard
[14:37] <tomatopotato> i mean what chipset
[14:37] <nicklasbo> Its a HDA Intel card with a VIA VT1828S chip
[14:38] <tomatopotato> does the system load the driver?
[14:38] <nicklasbo> How to check?
[14:39] <nicklasbo> I guess it does as sound through headphones work.
[14:40] <tomatopotato> aha ok
[14:40] <tomatopotato> so that might be something small actually, not much of a trouble i guess as it might be settings related
[14:41] <tomatopotato> did you try all the mixer settings
[14:41] <tomatopotato> the extended settings?
[14:41] <tomatopotato> sorry brb, have to eat
[14:42] <nicklasbo> Maybe not, will try further investigate :)
[14:44] <nicklasbo> I have played with all the settings in alsamixer and in "Volume Control" accessible through the volume panel settings. Are there more audio settings relevant hidden away?
[14:48] <dadixub> hello
[14:54] <xubuntu988> Няхаха!
[14:58] <tomatopotato> back, well there is a preferences option where you can enable additional sources and outputs
[15:00] <tomatopotato> as you can see here for example
[15:00] <tomatopotato> http://askubuntu.com/questions/80384/where-are-the-lxde-sound-preferences
[15:01] <tomatopotato> you can tryto checkall and turn them alup
[15:02] <tomatopotato> alup=al.up
[15:02] <tomatopotato> al.up= all up
[15:02] <nicklasbo> Yes, great. Will give it a go :)
[15:02] <tomatopotato> need a smoke
[15:06] <tomatopotato> back
[15:06] <nicklasbo> Ok. Tried xfce4-mixer, selecting all controls and turning them up. No speaker sound... I've also tried pavucontrol, selecting different profiles such as "Analog Stereo Output"...
[15:07] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: don't smoke, use this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3077785/1111091703.jpeg
[15:07] <tomatopotato> lol
[15:08] <tomatopotato> nicklasbo, did you click in soundcard (pop up) and see what else you have there to choose?
[15:10] <nicklasbo> Jep. There I can choose: HDA Intel PCH (Alsa mixer) , Playback: Built-in Audio Analog Stereo (PulseAudio Mixer) and last Capture... Everything is turned up
[15:10] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: that's what i use instead of smoking
[15:10] <tomatopotato> nyrednek bad habits die hard
[15:11] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: yeah, this feels like smoking or i'd never have been able to quit
[15:11] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: there is liquid in that tank that gives the feeling of smoke as you inhale it
[15:11] <tomatopotato> nicklasbo did you try the othr options to ? sometimes you have to switch between those and only a restartwill help or sometimes loging out and loging in again will help to
[15:12] <nicklasbo> Yes, turned everything up for all Sound Card options. Will try the restart hint. Thanks for your help! :)
[15:13] <tomatopotato> i cant promise it will help tough
[15:17] <CQ> hello, do I just need to install xfce4 or the whole xubuntu-desktop package to run xfce? I currently have kde running...
[15:19] <torax> CQ: just to run xfce, the package xfce is enough, if you want every theme, application etc the "xubuntu experience" then install xubuntu-desktop
[15:19] <torax> xfce4*
[15:19] <CQ> torax: hm, just installe dit but kdm won't let me select it from teh login screen...
[15:20] <CQ> wait, sec, does let me select it, but jumps back to the kdm login screen after a brief blank screen...
[15:20] <CQ> any ideas? I thought that was kde related but xfce does the same thing...
[15:20] <CQ> home is mounted, and I can log into a console no problem
[15:21] <torax> hmm :S
[15:22] <CQ> FYI, this is just after an upgrade to quantal
[15:32] <ti89breh> hi
[15:32] <ti89breh> how can I change just the button theme in xubuntu? I don't like how the buttons look
[16:18] <mahmoud_> I'm trying to open mp3 files, but the gmusicbrowser complains.
[16:18] <mahmoud_> How to fix it so that it plays all kinds of audio files?
[16:21] <mahmoud_> deebo
[16:31] <mahmoud_> deebo, I'm trying to open mp3 files, but the gmusicbrowser complains. How to fix it so that it plays all kinds of audio files?
[16:44] <c2tarun> hey guys where can I find logs of this channel?
[16:46] <c2tarun> got it.
[16:59] <PhoenixSTF> hello anyone got backlight fn keys to work on a eeepc 1101ha???
[17:03] <GridCube> mahmoud_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:06] <mahmoud_> GridCube, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:06] <mahmoud_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:07] <GridCube> apparently
[17:07] <GridCube> are you updating?
[17:07] <GridCube> using usc? using synaptic?
[17:07] <mahmoud_> No.
[17:07] <GridCube> well... it seems like you are
[17:08] <GridCube> did you run it with sudo?
[17:08] <mahmoud_> yeah
[17:08] <GridCube> well, you might be updating in the background
[17:09] <mahmoud_> Is there a way that I can kill all the processes that could be updating?
[17:11] <GridCube> well, see if you have one backend_helper.py runing
[17:11] <GridCube> or aptd
[18:05] <xubuntu648> hello I was trying to install skype and pasted this line in a terminal
[18:05] <xubuntu648> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[18:05] <xubuntu648> but this causes the software center to crach
[18:06] <GridCube> xubuntu648, i simply installed the deb from their website and it works preeety well
[18:06] <xubuntu648> is there any way I can undo this?
[18:06] <xubuntu648> in a terminal of course because s.center crashes
[18:06] <GridCube> xubuntu648, well remove that source
[18:06] <TheSheep> xubuntu648: it's in /etc/apt/sources.d/
[18:07] <xubuntu648> Thank you, this is what I want to do
[18:09] <xubuntu648> I am in etc/apt/ now and there are two such files 1) sources.list and 2) sources.list.save I will check them now, thanks again
[18:14] <xubuntu648> I opened this two file with leafpad and removed the lines containing deb http://archive.canonical.com but it won't be saved, I have to configure a way to grant permissions
[18:20] <GridCube> xubuntu648, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:22] <xubuntu648> thank you GridCube, bye!
[18:31] <xubuntu042> GridCube i just came back to saz that it is solved now, I just had to right click and select "open with software source".. remove the specific link (visually, by mouse) and now software center is alright again. I appreciate your help, bye!
[18:31] <trasp> Okay, so I've just started using Xubuntu.. dunno if this is a xfce-problem or what it is, but whenever I try to launch MonkeyStudio it crashes. Anyone know why this happens and have a solution?
[18:31] <GridCube> trasp, try opening it from a terminal and see the error logs
[18:32] <trasp> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:32] <GridCube> there was a segfault
[18:32] <GridCube> it failed
[18:33] <GridCube> if thats everything that it says then theres not much else to know about
[18:33] <trasp> hm
[18:34] <trasp> lots of lines above it says "Unable to handle unregistered datatype" Kurl/Qlist
[18:34] <trasp> for three different properties
[18:34] <trasp> Other than that it doesn't seem to complain about anything
[18:36] <trasp> So what do I do? Just stop using monkeystudio?
[18:36] <GridCube> mmm its a qt program correct?
[18:36] <trasp> Yes
[18:36] <GridCube> maybe you dont have the qt engine running?
[18:37] <GridCube> i dont really know, let me check
[18:38] <trasp> Some forum I found on google recommended to remove "qt-at-spi", but that one isn't intalled
[18:39] <GridCube> trasp, are you using the default theme for xubuntu?
[18:40] <trasp> Yes, I installed it like two days ago and haven't changed a thing
[18:40] <trasp> other than installing monkeystudio through api-get
[18:41] <GridCube> trasp, https://bugs.launchpad.net/monkeystudio/+bug/576819/comments/1
[18:41] <GridCube> it should be fixed on quantal
[18:42] <trasp> Allright
[18:42] <trasp> Thanks
[18:48] <trasp> hm, it's quantal that I use
[20:13] <JainAmber> Hello
[20:14] <JainAmber> Quoting http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ : "The 12.04 release...is a Long Term Support release, which means it has support for 3 years"
[20:14] <shouganai> yeah
[20:14] <JainAmber> I thought LTS were supported for "5 years" instead of "3 years"
[20:15] <JainAmber> Or, does that "5 years support for LTS" applies only to ubuntu (and not Xubuntu)?
[20:17] <knome> JainAmber, xubuntu has 3 years lts support
[20:18] <JainAmber> ok
[20:18] <JainAmber> Thanks knome :)
[20:41] <Kevin89> Hey everyone, I just installed Xubuntu and downloaded fluxbox but when I launched a session for the first time it was already partially configured ... is there any easy way to just have a fresh vanilla flux install?
[23:22] <Guest50378> What is the advantage of having XFCE over Unity or KDE?
[23:24] <bazhang> none
[23:24] <bazhang> just personal preference
[23:25] <Guest50378> Thanks, but can someone help me find a wireless driver for a Broadcom Wireless card.
[23:26] <Guest50378> *?
[23:26] <bazhang> !broadcom
[23:26] <bazhang> have a read ^