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lolekhello all09:00
mgzmorning!09:06
lolekerm... guys... i'm a bit confused... few days ago we're looking for some new versioning system. The problem was that one of the developers is using M$ platform. From what i've read bzr has got better support for m$ than for example git, but after few days i see that: bzr-eclipse plugin is... not maintained since 2008 o.O!, bzr-svn plugin doesn't have maintainer also... and my question is ... what's up...? is bazaar really a good alternative for versioning s09:09
mgzlolek: you hit the length limit09:11
lolekmgz: erm.. what was the last word you got ?09:30
mgzit was probably the last bit, "for versioning s"09:32
mgzanyway, in my experience, yes, it is, but not all plugins are as well maintained as others (bzr-svn is actually pretty well cared for, jelmer has just switched job recently)09:33
mgzand the future is a little uncertain, but people do care about bzr09:33
lolekok here is the last part09:36
loleksystem for commercial usage ? i know.. i see it's working ok for canonical, but for me ok.. bzr-svn i can live without that, but bzr-eclipse ?09:36
mgzso, people have very different attitudes to ide intergration09:45
mgzthe basic issue there is you need someone who uses that ide to work on the plugin, it's not something someone else can easilly pick up09:46
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lolekwell i understand that10:27
lolekwhat i can say now, that the bzr-eclipse plugin is missing just one thing for me/us... the compare to specific revision/url10:28
lolekthat's all10:28
mgzlolek: then it's really worth looking at just adding that10:33
mgzI'd be happy to assist if you have questions, but don't use eclipse10:34
lolekwell ok10:34
lolekbut i don't thing that my skill will allow me to add that functionality ;)10:34
loleks/skill/skills10:35
venefyxatuI've recently learned about mercurial queues, and now that I'm using it to work on several different changesets within one branch, move them around, reorder, apply/unapply as necessary I'm beginning to really love it - is there something like this available for bzr?11:59
venefyxatu(sort of like shelve on steroids, I believe)11:59
lolekguys, i've hitted something like: http://pastebin.com/7RhxJbiM, it's error from bzr-notify...12:16
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lolekany idea what could be wrong.. it's ubuntu 12.04/amd6412:16
mgzlolek: just disable bzr-notify, see bug 99899412:30
ubot5Launchpad bug 998994 in Bazaar GTK+ Frontends "bzr-notify: add_action() takes exactly 6 arguments (5 given)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99899412:30
lolek:/12:31
mgzit's not used for anything significant is bzr-gtk12:31
lolekhmm don't get it ?12:35
mgzlolek: see the linked merge proposal, the code has been removed in newer versions of bzr-gtk12:42
lolekoh12:46
lolekhmm, so bzr-notify is no longer available ? i.e. it will be removed ?12:50
mgzlolek: are you actually using it, or did you just notice it breaking?12:54
lolekwell i was trying to use it :)12:55
loleki saw how this is working at my friends desk, and it's nice tool13:00
lolekand the funiest thing is he also have ubu 12.04 but .. he is using unity, and i'm using gnome-shell13:01
jelmerlolek: bzr-notify has been removed in bzr-gtk trunk13:46
lolekwell that's not good13:47
jelmerlolek: mostly since there were a fair number of issues like the one you hit, and they'd been open for quite some time13:47
lolekhmm13:48
lolekand.. do You plane to give some other app for the same functionality ?13:48
jelmerlolek: perhaps if somebody steps up to do so. nobody was taking care of bzr-notify, that was one of the reasons we decided to eventually remove it.13:49
lolek:/13:49
lolekjelmer: well i've made one thing, added the missing argument as: None and.. bzr-notify is working15:00
jelmerlolek: ah, nice15:01
lolekbut there is one problem15:01
loleknotification is working i see the popup with two buttons: Inspect and Branch... neither of them is working... what should the buttons ?15:02
lolek*what the buttons should do ?15:02
jelmerwhat their labels say :-)15:04
lolekInspect / Branch15:04
jelmerInspect used to open a particular revision in "bzr viz"15:04
jelmerand Branch launches the clone window15:05
lolekhmm ok15:05
lolekso both are not working ;d15:05
lolekand i dunno why :]15:05
lolekanyway i see tha problem15:08
lolekit's related to gnome-shell vs unity .. the way that they use the notification, i.e. unity doesn't allow to place buttons in notifications, while gnome-shell do... maybe there would be a possibility to, create bzr-notify as systray app, after that we could show notifications for both gnome-shell and unity  in the same way, and add to that tray options: (inspect last commit/branch last commit) ?15:10
lolekthanks to that the bzr-notify will work as usually, and both worlds would be happy15:10
lolekjelmer: what do You think about that ?15:11
jelmerlolek: that's what bzr-notify did - it supported both the appindicator API for unity and the regular systray stuff for GNOME215:11
lolekwell yeah but from what i saw on the launchpad it seems that bzr-notify will be removed.. and that's said... :(15:12
jelmerlolek: it's already been removed15:13
lolekhmm15:13
lolekbzr uncommit ?:D15:13
jelmerlolek: as I said, it hadn't been maintained in a while and there were a number of open issues with it; I don't think bringing it back without addressing that would be a good idea.15:14
loleki can agree15:14
lolekbut.. if so.. is there any replacement for that ?15:14
jelmerlolek: no, there's nothing that does anything similar at the moment15:15
lolekhmm15:15
lolekok, be back tomorrow, bye15:24
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evillyEvilHow do I revert all files EXCEPT some certain files in a project to the last commit state?20:21
evillyEvilor is that even possible?20:23
fullermdNot as a single step.21:01
fullermdYou could do some dancing around sh-ery with status and revert.  You could shelve the changes you want, revert, then unshelve 'em.21:02
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dpb___I have a weird bzr symlink-shared-repo problem.  I wrote a test case.  Should this just be a bug, or is there something I'm doing wrong?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1354131/21:20
dpb___note: the fact that the symlink points higher up in the chain is meaningless, it just needs to point somewhere outside the shared repo.21:24
fullermdIt's probably another incidence of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/99505521:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 995055 in Bazaar "find_bzrdirs shouldn't follow symlinks" [Low,Confirmed]21:27
dpb___fullermd: thanks.  We have a workaround for it in our narrow case. (unwind the symlink before handing it to bzr).21:36
thumperabentley: ping21:44
abentleythumper: pong21:44
thumperabentley: I have a pipeline question for you21:45
abentleySure, what's the question?21:45
thumperabentley: I managed to get some fucked up situation in my current checkout, so I moved it and re checked out trunk21:45
thumperabentley: went into that directory and did 'bzr pipes' expecting only trunk21:45
thumperabentley: but it had the other branch there too21:45
thumperabentley: why?21:45
abentleythumper: The pipeline data is associated with the branches, not the checkout.  It is stored in .bzr/branch/branch.conf.21:46
thumperok21:47
thumperta21:47
abentleynp21:47
thumperabentley: that was simple wasn't it?21:47
abentley:-)21:47
thumperbtw, still using pipelines daily21:47
abentleyGlad to hear it.21:49
felipecwhat should I use instead of ControlDir.open(url) in older versions of bzr?23:49
jelmerfelipec: BzrDir.open(url)23:49
felipecjelmer: cool23:52
felipecthat should be OK for newer versions as well, right?23:52
jelmerfelipec: I had plans to deprecate BzrDir.open because of ControlDir.open, but that hasn't happened yet23:53
jelmers/yet//23:53
felipecall right23:58
felipecjelmer: what about this error? http://pastie.org/536894623:58
felipecer, last line: TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'help'23:59
jelmerfelipec: what's the actual exception?23:59

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