[09:41] <ActionParsnip> quiet in here, raring is either super stable or nobody is installing it :)
[09:48] <tsimpson> hopefully the latter
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> true, makes life easier
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> although I like reporting bugs, so I run it :)
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: I see you joined the crazy train :)
[12:07] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip , how's it going?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> yup :)
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not bad, half day at work so sweeeeeeet
[12:07] <BluesKaj> right
[12:08] <BluesKaj> yeah had a xinit bug for 2 days or so , but it's ok now
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not seen that one, proprietary vidceo drivers?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> probly the nvidia-current , not sure
[12:10] <BluesKaj> that's the drive I use
[12:13] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, additional drivers has odd choices for nvidia IMO
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: possibly related to that :)
[17:23] <BluesKaj> BBIAB
[17:55] <zhorko> hello
[17:55] <zhorko> I installed skype but it won't start
[18:25] <jtaylor> raring/main libc6-x32 amd64 2.16-0ubuntu3 [4490 kB]
[18:25] <jtaylor> neat :)
[18:26] <zhorko> hey
[18:26] <zhorko> anyone with solution to my problem
[18:26] <zhorko> please
[18:27] <jtaylor> whats the error?
[18:27] <zhorko> skype won't start unless through terminal
[18:27] <zhorko> now terminal and skype have to be open to run it
[18:28] <zhorko> can't close terminal it closes skype
[18:28] <jtaylor> anything in ~/.xsession-errors?
[18:28] <zhorko> do I type that in terminal
[18:28] <zhorko> how do I see that
[18:29] <jtaylor> do tail -f  ~/.xsession-errors in a terminal and start skype via the launcher
[18:29] <zhorko> I restarted ubuntu it is still the same way
[18:30] <zhorko> it didn't work
[18:30] <zhorko> this is the output
[18:30] <zhorko> :
[18:31] <zhorko> that shouldn't happen
[18:31] <zhorko> ops
[18:31] <zhorko> 1 sec
[18:31] <jtaylor> are you on 13.04?
[18:31] <zhorko> (software-center:4190): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[18:31] <zhorko> (software-center:4190): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[18:31] <zhorko> (software-center:4190): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[18:31] <zhorko> 2012-11-12 19:52:50,464 - softwarecenter.db.pkginfo_impl.aptcache - INFO - aptcache.open()
[18:31] <zhorko> 2012-11-12 19:53:00,723 - softwarecenter.db.pkginfo_impl.aptcache - INFO - aptcache.open()
[18:31] <zhorko> ** (gnome-system-monitor:8135): WARNING **: SELinux was found but is not enabled
[18:31] <zhorko> no 12.10
[18:31] <jtaylor> #ubuntu the support channel for that versio
[18:31] <jtaylor> this is for 13.10
[18:31] <jtaylor> 04
[18:32] <zhorko> yes but noone asnwers
[18:32] <zhorko> I tried there
[18:32] <zhorko> noone says a thing
[18:32] <zhorko> how do I upgrade to 13.10?
[18:32] <zhorko> can you tell me at least that
[18:32] <jtaylor> you shouldn't
[18:32] <jtaylor> unless you know the system very well
[18:33] <zhorko> I am familiar with Ubuntu
[18:33] <jtaylor> 13.04 is not released yet
[18:33] <zhorko> have been using it for quite some time
[18:33] <zhorko> ok
[18:33] <jtaylor> still it is highly recommended be able to debug this kind of problem yourself before you upgrade to pre alpha development releases
[18:33] <zhorko> so do you have a solution to my issue
[18:34] <jtaylor> no, possibly there is some issue with the .desktop files
[18:34] <zhorko> how do I do that
[18:34] <zhorko> where do I go to check
[18:35] <jtaylor>  /usr/share/applications/skype.desktop and ~/.local/share/applications/skype.desktop
[18:37] <jtaylor> you can use nohup or screen to be able to close the terminal after you have started skype btw
[18:37] <jtaylor> disown might also work
[18:38] <zhorko> this is what happens when I type skype in terminal:
[18:38] <zhorko> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
[18:38] <zhorko> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[18:38] <zhorko> (skype:8247): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[18:38] <zhorko> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[18:38] <zhorko> (skype:8247): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[18:38] <zhorko> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[18:38] <zhorko> (skype:8247): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[18:38] <zhorko> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[18:38] <zhorko> (skype:8247): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[18:38] <jtaylor> please use a pastebin
[18:40] <jtaylor> whats the output of dpkg -S 2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[18:40] <zhorko> one second
[18:41] <zhorko> appmenu-gtk: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[18:41] <zhorko> that is the output
[18:43] <zhorko> is it of any help
[18:44] <jtaylor> sure that you are on 12.10?
[18:44] <jtaylor> whats the version of appmenu-gtk?
[18:45] <zhorko> I didn't understand what to do in that folder above you mentioned I saw the icon there but what do I do
[18:45] <zhorko> in the /usr/share/applications/skype.desktop
[18:45] <zhorko> hey it worked
[18:45] <zhorko> I started it from that folder
[18:45] <zhorko> and it opened
[18:45] <zhorko> thanks man
[18:45] <zhorko> very helpful
[18:45] <zhorko> I guess it is the icon error
[18:45] <zhorko> not the application
[18:45] <zhorko> yes I am on 12.10