| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 05:26 |
|---|---|---|
| TheMuso | Morning pitti. | 05:27 |
| pitti | hey TheMuso, how are you? | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Well thanks. Yourself? DId you have a good weekend? | 05:41 |
| pitti | TheMuso: it was rather quiet, the weather was rather wet; but very relaxing | 05:41 |
| TheMuso | Is it getting cold there yet? | 05:49 |
| pitti | some 9 degrees, that wasn't too bad | 05:55 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:42 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 06:50 |
| didrocks | bonjour pitti! | 06:51 |
| Laney | hey | 09:06 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, how are you? | 09:10 |
| Laney | didrocks: good, nice relaxing weekend :-) | 09:11 |
| Laney | you? | 09:11 |
| didrocks | same for me :) short, but good! :) | 09:11 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, lut didrocks | 09:17 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 09:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, "short", you worked on saturday?! ;-) | 09:18 |
| didrocks | salut seb128! bien bien ;) | 09:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: no short in term "a lot to do but not enough time" :) | 09:18 |
| * Laney did a lot (of sleeping) | 09:18 | |
| seb128 | hehe | 09:18 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 09:19 |
| philballew | so much excitement going on here | 09:19 |
| pitti | seb128: did we get a new GTK or something recently? All my programs now say "Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:62:17: Theming engine 'unico' not found", and evince crashes right at startup | 09:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey | 09:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems like the multiarch fallback patch was dropped (by error?) in my recent upload | 09:26 |
| seb128 | guess the theme is still not multiarched | 09:27 |
| pitti | /usr/lib/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/libunico.so | 09:27 |
| pitti | oh, it's that? | 09:27 |
| pitti | should we just fix that instead? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | that would be good | 09:27 |
| seb128 | can you have a look to it? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | if not I will have a look in a bit | 09:27 |
| pitti | I'm sponsoring this morning, but in the afternoon, yes | 09:28 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, hum, bzr log says it's you who deleted the patch and without changelog entry... | 09:29 |
| seb128 | that's why I didn't see there was any pending change in that upload, the changelog was still on the quantal SRU | 09:30 |
| Laney | when was it? | 09:30 |
| Laney | I only rememeber deleting patches we said we could during UDS | 09:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, during UDS, I guess you did it during the session | 09:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, can you look at building unico with multiarch and see if that works/fixes the issue? | 09:30 |
| seb128 | bug #1077568 | 09:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1077568 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:62:17: Theming engine 'unico' not found " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077568 | 09:31 |
| Laney | wilco | 09:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, ? | 09:36 |
| seb128 | heh | 09:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks ;-) | 09:36 |
| Laney | hm, there are still a couple of other packages using that directory too | 09:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, which ones? | 09:47 |
| Laney | gcin-gtk3-immodule gnome-themes-standard (adwaita) gtk-vector-screenshot | 09:48 |
| seb128 | do you think we should restore the patch? or just go ahead and port those? | 09:48 |
| Laney | perhaps both | 09:49 |
| Laney | let me see how unico goes | 09:49 |
| seb128 | right, I was going to suggest that | 09:49 |
| seb128 | let's do that one, if it works fine it's easy to just port the other 3 | 09:49 |
| Laney | seems fine here | 09:57 |
| Laney | can someone (pitti?) check with http://people.canonical.com/~laney/unico/ please? :-) | 09:57 |
| pitti | Laney: sure! | 09:57 |
| pitti | you don't get that bug? | 09:57 |
| Laney | I do | 09:57 |
| Laney | just want some independent verification | 09:58 |
| pitti | Laney: if you could make it 0644? | 09:58 |
| pitti | you and your s3kr1t .debs :) | 09:59 |
| Laney | oh | 09:59 |
| Laney | silly sftp | 09:59 |
| * Laney feeds lillypilly some hamsters | 10:00 | |
| Laney | done | 10:00 |
| pitti | Laney: evince still crashes, but the warning is gone; thanks! | 10:03 |
| Laney | huh, I don't see it crash here | 10:04 |
| Laney | is that another bug? | 10:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you have a stacktrace? | 10:04 |
| seb128 | it's likely another issue... | 10:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, is that on a specific document? did it start today? | 10:04 |
| pitti | on any documents, even when calling without arguments, I had it yesterday already | 10:05 |
| pitti | https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/f123ee20-2bfe-11e2-b2c9-2c768aafd08c | 10:05 |
| pitti | uh, no stack trace? | 10:05 |
| pitti | the trace had some unico thingy in it, hang on | 10:06 |
| pitti | that's why I thought it was due to the unico theme | 10:06 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, sponsoring cairo FTBFS fix | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke! | 10:07 |
| pitti | (so you can delete the mails) | 10:07 |
| pitti | ah no, not unico, it was libgrip | 10:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, bug #1077376 | 10:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1077376 in geis (Ubuntu) "Evince crashes when using the latest version of libgeis1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077376 | 10:07 |
| seb128 | I was going to say | 10:07 |
| pitti | right | 10:07 |
| pitti | rather annoying | 10:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ can you get somebody from #ps to look at it | 10:08 |
| Laney | sounds like a test case waiting to happen :-) | 10:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure | 10:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 10:08 |
| didrocks | yw :) | 10:08 |
| didrocks | so libgrip | 10:08 |
| Laney | ok, so let's push on with moving those gtk modules then | 10:08 |
| pitti | Laney: \o/ | 10:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, is there any way we can do stuff like "nux and unity need to build fine when glew is uploaded"? | 10:36 |
| seb128 | or we don't have the infra for that (yet)? | 10:36 |
| pitti | seb128: we could do that | 10:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, we did catch those glew issues because people were watching but ideally our infra should block those uploads | 10:36 |
| pitti | seb128: nux and unity would need to get an autopkgtest with Restrictions: build-needed | 10:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 10:37 |
| pitti | and then perhaps some basic tests which don't need 3D | 10:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, wdyt? | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | i should do that with firefox so that the compiler doesn't break it ;) | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hello btw :) | 10:37 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 10:37 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? ;-) | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, good thanks. but quite tired. maisie decided that 3am was a good time to get up this morning | 10:38 |
| seb128 | doesn't look like a good time to me! | 10:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'm all for it! Quite busy until autolanding is ready, but yeah, we'll tackle the autopackage test for X-less ones after that | 10:38 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 10:38 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson :) | 10:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks, we should definitively look to that once other stuff settle down as didrocks said | 10:39 |
| didrocks | yep | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks | 10:39 |
| pitti | seb128, didrocks: NB that failed autopkgtests do not yet block the migration; but this is being worked on, and should happen in the next weeks | 10:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, we will get there ;-) | 10:40 |
| pitti | at least it woudl appear as a red dot on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/, and I'm watching that rather closely | 10:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, thanks! :) | 10:40 |
| xnox | pitti: I see that adt has -proposed jobs now, which I had a fun experience with. the adt fails in -proposed, because the package is uninstallable there. But the same package is still migrated into -release, because it is installable in -release. | 11:47 |
| xnox | and I am not sure how to catch / block the migration in such rare cases. | 11:48 |
| xnox | also has it been worked out how to run adt test when the packages are installable? | 11:48 |
| pitti | xnox: hm, not installable in -proposed, but installable in release> that's because of a broken dependency in -proposed? | 11:50 |
| pitti | xnox: we do not yet look at adt during the migration | 11:50 |
| pitti | xnox: for now, if a test fails in -proposed, but should succeed later, we can manually restart it | 11:50 |
| xnox | pitti: (1) more or less. (2) I know | 11:50 |
| pitti | xnox: right now we don't have a trigger which reattempts the test | 11:50 |
| xnox | =( | 11:51 |
| pitti | if this becomes more common, we'll have to work something out of course | 11:51 |
| pitti | shouldn't be too hard | 11:51 |
| xnox | so i had: git 1.7 in -release, git 1.8 in -proposed. & guilt in -proposed Depends: git << 1.8. guilt adt fails in -proposed, yet guilt on it's own is migrated to -release. | 11:51 |
| pitti | we need to keep track of whether teh failure was due to uninstallability, and retry an hour later or so | 11:51 |
| pitti | and if it was due to a test failure, retry when a dependency is updated in -propsoed (that already happens anyway) | 11:51 |
| xnox | I think adt should exit and give the orange indication to the test in jenkins, cause that type of thing exited as failed and red. | 11:52 |
| pitti | xnox: if britney/adt checks were already in place, it would have been held | 11:52 |
| xnox | but I guess adt didn't tell the test why it failed. | 11:52 |
| pitti | xnox: no, but britney knows uninstallability, so we can probably look at its output before even starting it | 11:55 |
| pitti | or at least fail with a discernible exit code | 11:55 |
| pitti | actually it's already supposed to | 11:55 |
| pitti | see "EXIT STATUS" in man adt-run | 11:55 |
| xnox | hmm... | 11:56 |
| pitti | it usually exits with 4 for failed tests | 11:56 |
| pitti | but for uninstallability it should fail with 12 or 16 | 11:56 |
| * xnox needs to tinker with jenkins a little to see why my job was red then. | 11:56 | |
| pitti | xnox: well, the jenkins job only looks at == 0, I suppose | 11:56 |
| xnox | the adt onces - maybe. but jenkins does have the orange light - on e.g. iso-tests. So it can have the grey state. | 11:57 |
| pitti | yep | 11:57 |
| xclaesse | any idea why I can't start a clutter program inside Xephyr? it says it does not have GLX | 12:02 |
| * pitti commits our current pango1.0 delta to Debian and will sync | 12:21 | |
| seb128 | xclaesse, hum, is xephyr supposed to support 3d? | 12:22 |
| === attente_zzz is now known as attente | ||
| xclaesse | seb128, yes | 12:26 |
| pitti | meh, evince broken, totem broken; raring, stop falling apart! | 12:26 |
| xclaesse | seb128, a colleague is running gnome-shell in xephyr without issues, on debian | 12:27 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| Sweetshark | n00b-question: How do I kill an restart the unity-menu process? I once knew, but forgot ... | 12:40 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: ^^ maybe you can give a hint | 12:40 |
| larsu | Sweetshark, unity-menu? Do you mean unity-panel-service? | 12:40 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: killall unity-panel-service | 12:40 |
| larsu | didrocks beat me | 12:40 |
| larsu | ;) | 12:40 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 12:40 |
| Sweetshark | thx guys! | 12:41 |
| didrocks | yw | 12:41 |
| * didrocks goes for some exercice now, bb ~1h | 12:41 | |
| Sweetshark | .oO(now using that knowledge to hopefully prove its-not-libreoffices-fault-but-its-the-indicator | 12:42 |
| larsu | mhr3, libunity's `configure --enable-docs` breaks building for me. valadoc complains about an "Invalid driver version format." Do I need a newer valadoc? | 12:42 |
| mhr3 | larsu, yes | 12:42 |
| larsu | mhr3, from jhbuild? | 12:43 |
| * larsu has whatever quantal has packaged | 12:43 | |
| larsu | which reminds me, is it safe to upgrade to r yet? | 12:44 |
| mhr3 | larsu, even the quantal one would be good if it was properly built | 12:44 |
| didrocks | larsu: it is, if you don't care about evince and totem | 12:44 |
| didrocks | larsu: one broke because of PS, the other one because of us :) | 12:44 |
| larsu | didrocks, oh, I do care about those. Better wait a week ;) Thanks! | 12:45 |
| mhr3 | ricotz, any plans to fix valadoc? | 12:45 |
| didrocks | larsu: vlc and google doc dude! :) | 12:45 |
| mhr3 | larsu, anyway jhbuild should work, otherwise installing from source will as well | 12:45 |
| larsu | mhr3, will do that, thanks | 12:46 |
| larsu | didrocks, yeah....... no | 12:46 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: libreoffice-pdfimport ;) | 12:46 |
| didrocks | :) | 12:46 |
| ricotz | mhr3, is it broken? | 12:48 |
| mhr3 | ricotz, yes, it installs just one driver, which sucks | 12:49 |
| ricotz | ah you mean the distro package then | 12:49 |
| mhr3 | right | 12:49 |
| mhr3 | ricotz, fwiw flo said he'll make new upstream release soonish | 12:49 |
| mhr3 | but the pkg needs to be fixed as well | 12:49 |
| ricotz | since there is no release, grabbing the snapshot from vala-team ppa should be fine | 12:50 |
| ricotz | which builds 0.14, 0.16 and 0.18 | 12:50 |
| ricotz | https://launchpad.net/~vala-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2744950/+listing-archive-extra | 12:51 |
| mhr3 | ricotz, looking at the buildlog from the ppa, it does look good | 12:51 |
| mhr3 | ricotz, so all i want now is having the new release in raring | 12:52 |
| mhr3 | and i guess moving it to main :) | 12:52 |
| ricotz | i see | 12:52 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, is it using 3d or falling back through llvm rendering? | 12:52 |
| xclaesse | seb128, no idea... | 12:53 |
| xclaesse | how could I know? | 12:53 |
| seb128 | dunno | 12:53 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, hum, I wonder if that could be http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=e3903a9383351b061b1a99dfc653ca50de764ec4 or similar | 12:54 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, it's quite a recent fix, I'm not sure it made it to our xserver | 12:55 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, would you be fine with a valadoc snapshot to make it actually usable? | 12:55 |
| ricotz | not sure if this is really reasonable for main | 12:56 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, why is there no upstream release? can we get one? but otherwise, sure, better than a broken version | 12:56 |
| seb128 | ricotz, but first I would like to understand why that's the best option | 12:56 |
| ricotz | mhr3, did he mention an eta? | 12:56 |
| mhr3 | ricotz, the upstream release should be out soon, just bug flo a bit ;) | 12:56 |
| ricotz | i see, i guess he will wait for 0.19.x to add its support | 12:57 |
| ricotz | mhr3, also this kind of forces him to preserve abi/api stability which is currently absolutely no taken care of | 12:58 |
| ricotz | not sure if there are reasonable consumers of libvaladoc0 | 12:59 |
| mhr3 | ricotz, isn't that just an internal lib? | 12:59 |
| ricotz | mhr3, so please bug him again for now | 12:59 |
| ricotz | mhr3, no | 12:59 |
| ricotz | it is an actual lib you can use | 13:00 |
| ricotz | but i am not aware of any consumer | 13:00 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, seb128: speaking of valadoc, I offer a bier to anyone who makes folks-doc package :) | 13:01 |
| mhr3 | ricotz, ok, i'll talk to him | 13:03 |
| ricotz | mhr3, ok | 13:05 |
| Sweetshark | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1064962/comments/131 <- back to unity | 13:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1064962 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] Global menubar items do not work when opening a document directly from nautilus with no LibreOffice instance running" [High,Confirmed] | 13:06 |
| larsu | Sweetshark, you're probably seeing bug 1075263 | 13:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1075263 in Application Menu Indicator "Items of a menubar built from GMenu do not always work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1075263 | 13:09 |
| larsu | Sweetshark, try waiting more than 5 seconds between restarting lo, that should work | 13:09 |
| larsu | Sweetshark, I have a fix for it, currently waiting in review | 13:10 |
| larsu | seb128, one more reason to backport this ^^ | 13:10 |
| larsu | :P | 13:10 |
| desrt | good morning | 13:15 |
| pitti | hey desrt, how are you? had a nice weekend? | 13:16 |
| Sweetshark | larsu: seems to work | 13:16 |
| attente | g'mornin | 13:16 |
| desrt | good enough | 13:16 |
| desrt | attente: hey there | 13:16 |
| larsu | desrt, morning, how is it going? | 13:16 |
| larsu | oh hi attente! | 13:16 |
| attente | hi larsu! | 13:17 |
| * desrt needs coffee :) | 13:17 | |
| desrt | attente: did you do your lesson last night? :) | 13:18 |
| attente | desrt: no, i went climbing instead | 13:18 |
| desrt | fair enough | 13:18 |
| desrt | find a partner yet or still just bouldering? :) | 13:18 |
| attente | just bouldering :) | 13:19 |
| * desrt will go some time that is not a monday night :) | 13:19 | |
| pitti | attente: ooh, you are William | 13:19 |
| pitti | attente: hey :) | 13:19 |
| attente | hi pitti :) | 13:19 |
| pitti | attente: mind to set your real name in IRC? | 13:20 |
| desrt | pitti: did you know that you have a fanclub? | 13:20 |
| attente | sure | 13:20 |
| pitti | desrt: https://launchpad.net/~we-love-pitti ? | 13:20 |
| desrt | pitti: ya :) | 13:20 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| pitti | desrt: I tried to forget about that team :) | 13:21 |
| desrt | pitti: i joined yesterday :) | 13:21 |
| * pitti is honored | 13:21 | |
| desrt | i also submitted a picture for the team to warp10... i don't think he liked it very much | 13:21 |
| desrt | but maybe you do: http://imgur.com/UkTcn | 13:21 |
| pitti | desrt: https://launchpad.net/~dholbach-huggers still beats me :) | 13:21 |
| pitti | desrt: PHEAR! | 13:21 |
| almostawake | having trouble booting 12.10 | 13:22 |
| desrt | heh | 13:22 |
| * desrt remembers that | 13:23 | |
| almostawake | says no wubildr | 13:23 |
| pitti | yikes, eog is broken as well (geis again) | 13:23 |
| almostawake | ya' | 13:23 |
| pitti | so that's eog, evince, and totem which are broken in raring | 13:23 |
| almostawake | doesnt boot at all4 | 13:23 |
| * Laney wonders why this stuff isn't broken for me | 13:23 | |
| pitti | is that a silent effort to kill all local documents and move them into the cloud? | 13:23 |
| almostawake | it will eventually | 13:23 |
| Laney | s/me/him/ | 13:24 |
| almostawake | I wondered that myself | 13:24 |
| pitti | Laney: indeed; they crash for me on any, or even no document | 13:24 |
| pitti | Laney: I confirmed in a guest session | 13:25 |
| Laney | weird | 13:25 |
| Laney | is totem geis too? | 13:25 |
| pitti | no, that doesn't crash; I just get a white video | 13:27 |
| pitti | sound works | 13:27 |
| Laney | ah, I am running 3.6.3 from the gstreamer1.0 PPA which works for me at least ;-) | 13:28 |
| desrt | ricotz: hey... did you make any progress? | 13:29 |
| seb128 | the totem issues started with the new cogl/clutter rebuilds it seems for pitti | 13:29 |
| ricotz | desrt, not yet, i think in 4 hours | 13:31 |
| desrt | k | 13:31 |
| ricotz | seb128, was totem not rebuilt to catch libcogl11? | 13:31 |
| seb128 | ricotz, it was, that's when it stopped rendering for pitti | 13:32 |
| pitti | seb128: does it work for you? | 13:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 13:32 |
| Laney | I downgraded and it still works here | 13:32 |
| pitti | odd | 13:33 |
| * ricotz isnt much of help while he is using totem 3.7.1 | 13:33 | |
| Laney | so trying 3.6 probably isn't worth it | 13:33 |
| seb128 | but I'm not surprised, those sort of issues are often hardware dependant | 13:33 |
| desrt | seb128: fyi: ricotz uncovered (and i suspect) a deadlock in gstreamer apps probably caused by the gtask stuff | 13:33 |
| ricotz | seb128, pitti, yeah, probably x-driver/mesa related | 13:34 |
| ricotz | seb128, with glib 2.35+ that is | 13:34 |
| seb128 | desrt, ok | 13:35 |
| Laney | desrt: that make-dfsg you asked for got accepted into precise-proposed BTW | 13:35 |
| Laney | could you confirm that you can build webkit with it on the bug? | 13:36 |
| desrt | Laney: i saw that. been meaning to test. | 13:36 |
| ricotz | seb128, btw, i hope you could pick this https://launchpadlibrarian.net/121589718/gdk-pixbuf_2.26.4-1ubuntu1_2.26.4-1ubuntu1%2B13.04~ricotz1.diff.gz | 13:36 |
| Laney | my PPA for testing it got caught up in backport hell | 13:36 |
| Laney | biab | 13:36 |
| ricotz | seb128, which unbreaks it gdk-pixbuf with glib 2.35 | 13:36 |
| seb128 | ricotz, is that fixed with 2.26.5? | 13:36 |
| seb128 | ricotz, the new version is available since today | 13:36 |
| ricotz | seb128, oh, i guess yes | 13:36 |
| seb128 | ricotz, ok, so we will rather update directly, but thanks ;-) | 13:37 |
| ricotz | seb128, yeah, that would be great | 13:37 |
| seb128 | ricotz, want to do the update? ;-) | 13:37 |
| ricotz | not currently :\, but would be nice to have asap ;) | 13:38 |
| seb128 | k, I will have a look soon | 13:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, today is not a good day for raring indeed :-( | 13:38 |
| seb128 | or today...those recents days | 13:38 |
| * ricotz already hears angry people complaining since gdk-pixbuf was updated again in raring | 13:38 | |
| pitti | seb128: well, I worked through my lunch break instead of watching Hidden Frontier :) | 13:38 |
| * seb128 notes to break totem more often | 13:39 | |
| seb128 | neat productivity win for us ;-) | 13:39 |
| ricotz | lol | 13:39 |
| pitti | there, all UDS autopkgtests sponsored | 13:39 |
| seb128 | ricotz, you have many people wanting a crack of the day glib? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, well done! | 13:39 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, I could commit most of them to pkg-gnome or collab-maint, there were just two which are an Ubuntu delta (and I forwarded those) | 13:40 |
| pitti | so it's not so bad after all | 13:40 |
| ricotz | seb128, that ppas download stats suggests so, yeah | 13:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, good | 13:40 |
| seb128 | ricotz, is there other things than glib in that ppa? I guess users might rather want new gnome-shell or something? | 13:40 |
| ricotz | seb128, glib isnt that bad currently, gtk+ was on the other hand | 13:41 |
| ricotz | seb128, thre are other things, yes | 13:41 |
| seb128 | ricotz, yeah, we decided to update glib and be careful with gtk at UDS ;-) | 13:41 |
| ricotz | seb128, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=raring | 13:42 |
| seb128 | ricotz, is that new rb using gst1? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, pitti: is any of you interested to do the glib 2.34.2 update in Debian? | 13:47 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p if you get "Unity 3d supported: no", you are using llvmpipe | 13:48 |
| ogra_ | well, that recent patch to the detection seems to be slightly broken | 13:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, we was speaking about running clutters app in xephyr | 13:49 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, Error: GLX is not available on the system | 13:50 |
| Sweetshark | larsu: thanks for the bug 1075263 hint. And yes, that should definitely be backported IMHO. Bug 1064962 has 1056 heat already. IIRC forks and torches start showing up at 1100 ... | 13:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1075263 in Application Menu Indicator "Items of a menubar built from GMenu do not always work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1075263 | 13:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1064962 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] Global menubar items do not work when opening a document directly from nautilus with no LibreOffice instance running" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064962 | 13:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: ah, ok :) | 13:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, do you know if those fallback to llvm as well? | 13:50 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, that's on xephyr server, on the normal server, I have opengl of course | 13:50 |
| seb128 | larsu, Sweetshark: ok, ok, will backport | 13:50 |
| * larsu hugs seb128! | 13:50 | |
| * seb128 hugs larsu back | 13:51 | |
| larsu | seb128, let's wait for ted's review, I'll ping him about it when he's on | 13:51 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: they did last time I tried | 13:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: I doubt it changed since 6 months ago :) | 13:51 |
| * ogra_ even has an arm chromebook falling back to llvm here | 13:52 | |
| ogra_ | and guess what, its slow but works just fine | 13:52 |
| ricotz | seb128, nom rhythmbox in there isnt gst1.0 yet, but there is a branch which i want to test | 13:52 |
| ogra_ | though sadly it uses llvmpipe even though tehere is full GLES support | 13:53 |
| seb128 | ricotz, ok, if you do let us know how it works ;-) | 13:53 |
| ricotz | seb128, yeah, will let you know | 13:53 |
| BigWhale | seb128, got a minute? I was poked about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/658004 This is apparently still a problem and upstream is not doing a thing about it. | 13:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 658004 in brasero (Ubuntu) "brasero dvd capacity estimation is broken" [Low,Triaged] | 13:55 |
| larsu | tedg, good morning, are you okay with https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/indicator-appmenu/lp1075263/+merge/133272 ? | 14:14 |
| * tedg cliecks | 14:14 | |
| tedg | clicks | 14:14 |
| larsu | tedg, thanks :) | 14:15 |
| larsu | tedg, we talked about this briefly last week. I tested it a lot to make sure that bamf bug doesn't occur anymore | 14:15 |
| seb128 | larsu, tedg: I suggest putting that patch in raring for a few days first | 14:16 |
| seb128 | then we can backport | 14:16 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, hey, what about it? | 14:16 |
| larsu | seb128, that's fine with me | 14:17 |
| tedg | larsu, Cool, looks good to me. | 14:17 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, if you want to work on a patch please do ;-) we have quite some annoying bugs with no active upstream to work on those | 14:17 |
| BigWhale | It is still an issue and it is really a single line fix. | 14:17 |
| BigWhale | seb128, ok, I'll produce a patch tonight and attach it to the bug. | 14:17 |
| larsu | tedg, thanks, I'll merge it, then | 14:17 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, thanks | 14:18 |
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| xclaesse | seb128, I have firefox and xchat on 2 different workspaces. I click a youtube link on xchat, the youtube webapp icon appear in the launchers, I click it nothing happens | 14:32 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, does clicking the firefox icon works? | 14:32 |
| xclaesse | If I go manually on the other workspace, then go back to the xchat workspace, then after that clicking youtube icon brings me to the firefox workspace | 14:33 |
| xclaesse | seb128, yes | 14:33 |
| seb128 | seems like a bug in the webapp integration, it has rough edges from its first cycle, they plan to do bug fixing this cycle | 14:33 |
| xclaesse | seb128, so that does not sounds like known issue? I should open an lp bug then | 14:34 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, check with kenvandine when he gets online I would say then open a bug (or open a bug directly and let them dup it if it's known issue) | 14:35 |
| attente | desrt: is it ok to have sections within sections in a GMenuModel? | 14:43 |
| desrt | yes. totally fine. | 14:44 |
| desrt | RAOF: bryceh: ping | 14:44 |
| task | Hi, since I updated to 12.10 my Gnome is very slow... I heard this might be realted to NVidia or my bumblebee setup. | 14:45 |
| seb128 | desrt, too late, too early for those | 14:45 |
| desrt | task: sorry... forgot to mention that all of our X guys are living down under | 14:45 |
| seb128 | try #ubuntu-x | 14:45 |
| seb128 | there are a few extra x guys there | 14:45 |
| * desrt did not know this existed | 14:45 | |
| seb128 | which includes mlankhorst and tjaalton and some others awake | 14:46 |
| task | me either... thanks :) | 14:46 |
| seb128 | yw | 14:46 |
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| attente | desrt: http://fpaste.org/P8tp/ | 14:50 |
| attente | for some reason, it's showing separators in between New Open and Save | 14:50 |
| desrt | attente: what am i lookingat? | 14:50 |
| desrt | attente: put new/open/save into a section together | 14:50 |
| desrt | attente: and read the reference documentation for GMenuModel | 14:51 |
| desrt | actually, now that i read it myself the language there could be improved | 14:51 |
| desrt | it mentions that separators are inserted between non-empty sections | 14:52 |
| desrt | in fact, separators are inserted between all non-empty toplevel items of a submenu -- section or not | 14:52 |
| attente | ok | 14:53 |
| xclaesse | seb128, FYI: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1077968 (I'll ping kenvendin if he shows up before I'm leaving home) | 14:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1077968 in unity (Ubuntu) "Clicking youtube icon does not go to firefox workspace" [Undecided,New] | 14:57 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, thanks | 14:57 |
| desrt | man | 15:01 |
| desrt | i love building webkit | 15:01 |
| desrt | i could spend my whole day building webkit! | 15:01 |
| desrt | ...and lord knows sometimes i do. :/ | 15:01 |
| seb128 | not only you could but you will if you try building it | 15:01 |
| Laney | been there | 15:01 |
| Laney | seb128: looks like smcv is doing glib now ;-) | 15:02 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 15:02 |
| desrt | damn | 15:02 |
| desrt | Laney: i'm meant to be testing 1ubuntu1.1, right? | 15:04 |
| Laney | ye | 15:04 |
| desrt | k | 15:04 |
| desrt | i'll let you know tomorrow ;) | 15:04 |
| attente | desrt: so if separators are inserted between non-empty toplevel items of a submenu, i should *not* expect a separator between "Recent File 4" and "Quit"? | 15:07 |
| desrt | attente: i'm confused | 15:09 |
| desrt | are you asking from the standpoint of the parser? | 15:09 |
| desrt | because there are two things you can do | 15:10 |
| desrt | the first is to find the explicit GtkSeparatorMenuItem instances in the menu and split sections at those points | 15:10 |
| desrt | the other (which we can only do if larsu doesn't notice) is to just convert those items into explicit separator items and add support for that on the gtk side | 15:10 |
| attente | so the way i'm doing it now is guaranteed to fail? | 15:11 |
| desrt | i don't know what you're doing now | 15:11 |
| desrt | but it sounds complicated :) | 15:11 |
| larsu | desrt, I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pinged me ;) | 15:11 |
| attente | i'm putting a section in a section, hoping that there would still be a separator inbetween | 15:11 |
| attente | heh | 15:11 |
| desrt | larsu: oh. "oops" | 15:11 |
| larsu | attente, don't do desrt's second suggestion. I'll notice! | 15:12 |
| larsu | :P | 15:12 |
| desrt | attente: no. separators are only inserted between toplevel items | 15:12 |
| attente | ok | 15:12 |
| attente | desrt: so what's the motivation for having sections within sections if they're not discernable from the usual case? | 15:12 |
| larsu | desrt, whatever happened to --with-separators? Much better than explicit separator items | 15:13 |
| desrt | attente: merging | 15:13 |
| larsu | s/--// | 15:13 |
| desrt | larsu: so here's the problem | 15:13 |
| desrt | larsu: say i have a gtkmenushell that contains 4 normal menuitems "a", "b", "c", "d" | 15:13 |
| desrt | clearly i'd convert that like so: | 15:13 |
| desrt | <menu> <section> <a/> <b/> <c/> <d/> </section> </menu> | 15:14 |
| larsu | yep | 15:14 |
| desrt | now comes some idiot who inserts a GtkSeparatorMenuItem at index 2 | 15:14 |
| desrt | what the heck do i do? | 15:14 |
| desrt | i want to get to <menu> <section> <a/> <b/> </section> <section> <c/> <d/> </section> </menu> | 15:15 |
| desrt | but how do i do that? | 15:15 |
| larsu | <menu> <section> <a/> <b/> </section> <section> <c/> <d/> </section> </menu> | 15:15 |
| larsu | :) | 15:15 |
| desrt | drop menu items c and d and add them to a new section? | 15:15 |
| desrt | then add that section... | 15:15 |
| larsu | drop them from where? | 15:15 |
| desrt | the existing section | 15:15 |
| desrt | gmenumodel has no operation for "split a section in two" | 15:15 |
| larsu | okay you're talking about someone dynamically inserting a separator? | 15:15 |
| desrt | ya | 15:15 |
| larsu | is there code out there that does this? | 15:16 |
| attente | my hope was that it could be simplified by just putting c and d in a section at the same level | 15:16 |
| desrt | we have to assume that there is | 15:16 |
| desrt | because you have to make a choice | 15:16 |
| desrt | either a) you deal with this case (which is miserable) | 15:16 |
| desrt | or b) you just completely start from scratch every time a menu changes (which is crappy) | 15:16 |
| larsu | c) don't support dynamic changes like that | 15:16 |
| * larsu chooses (c) | 15:16 | |
| desrt | larsu: i'm afraid we'd have to... | 15:16 |
| attente | heh, a) doesn't sound that bad though | 15:17 |
| desrt | if i were to pick a real (c) it would be more like "deal with dynamic changes in a dynamic way until separators get involved, and then just start over" | 15:17 |
| larsu | sure | 15:17 |
| desrt | larsu: meh. | 15:18 |
| larsu | :D | 15:18 |
| desrt | going from semantic to presentational is great | 15:18 |
| desrt | now we're going from presentational and deriving guessed semantics | 15:18 |
| desrt | i'm allowed to feel uncomfortable about that | 15:18 |
| larsu | desrt, of course, but isn't this kind of a band-aid until all apps use GMenuModel? | 15:19 |
| desrt | larsu: in practice, this will be forever | 15:19 |
| larsu | *sigh* | 15:19 |
| desrt | some apps will never ever port to gmenumodel | 15:20 |
| desrt | in the same way that some apps will never stop using gtk2 and gconf | 15:20 |
| larsu | I guess you're right on this one | 15:20 |
| larsu | still, I'd go with your suggested (c) and see how much of an issue it will be in practice | 15:20 |
| desrt | attente: if you want to solve the hard problem then by all means... :) | 15:21 |
| attente | it doesn't sound that hard... but you're probably seeing something that i'm not | 15:21 |
| larsu | is (a) the hard one you're talking about? | 15:23 |
| warp10 | desrt: oh, was it supposed to be a picture for the team? | 15:23 |
| attente | larsu: yes | 15:23 |
| desrt | warp10: ya :p | 15:23 |
| desrt | warp10: pitti in a viking hat goes well against the backdrop of all the "chuck norris has nothing on martin pitt!" talk | 15:23 |
| warp10 | desrt: ok, link please: I'm sure pitti will be delighted of it 0:-) | 15:23 |
| desrt | http://imgur.com/UkTcn | 15:24 |
| * pitti hides | 15:24 | |
| larsu | pitti, that doesn't fit your nick at all :P | 15:25 |
| pitti | I blame the beer | 15:26 |
| desrt | attente: U of T? | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | that should sooo become the product picture on https://launchpad.net/~we-love-pitti | 15:26 |
| attente | desrt: now? | 15:26 |
| desrt | attente: ish | 15:26 |
| attente | sure | 15:27 |
| desrt | k. see you in an hour? | 15:27 |
| attente | ok | 15:27 |
| pitti | is that a pub? | 15:27 |
| desrt | university of toronto | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | a big pub | 15:27 |
| desrt | lots of nice areas for working on hard problems together :) | 15:28 |
| warp10 | desrt: done | 15:30 |
| desrt | warp10: awesome :D | 15:31 |
| desrt | nice crop | 15:31 |
| desrt | attente: heading out | 15:31 |
| warp10 | desrt: yeah, despite 64x64 being so small | 15:31 |
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| pitti | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-proposed-adt-cairo/lastFailedBuild/ARCH=i386,label=albali/ | 15:46 |
| pitti | et voila | 15:46 |
| pitti | the first packaging error spotted by an autopkgtest from UDS :) | 15:46 |
| pitti | jibel: ^ FYI | 15:46 |
| pitti | seb128, chrisccoulson : who is the new chromium maintainer these days? | 15:47 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti, qengho | 15:48 |
| qengho | hi hi | 15:48 |
| pitti | hey qengho! | 15:48 |
| qengho | pitti: hi. I'm trying to get it in decent shape. | 15:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, qengho joined the desktop team around UDS and will maintain chromium and webkit | 15:50 |
| pitti | qengho: welcome, and good luck! | 15:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, be nice to him, he's still new and learning his way around ;-) | 15:50 |
| pitti | I just assigned 27 bugs to you! | 15:50 |
| pitti | (kidding) | 15:50 |
| qengho | pitti: Don't *do* that! | 15:51 |
| gema | qengho: hi, quick question for you! | 15:51 |
| * gema thanks pitti for pointing her in the right direction x) | 15:51 | |
| seb128 | pitti, speaking of bugs, do you watch bug #1048059? it's quite active | 15:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1048059 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "Adding ACLs to /media/$user does not work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048059 | 15:52 |
| gema | qengho: we are wondering if there is any chance we could get chromium webdriver packaged somehow to make our testing of webapps better | 15:52 |
| gema | and more reliable | 15:52 |
| pitti | seb128: I do, but I still have NFC about it | 15:52 |
| pitti | seb128: I don't suppose all those reporters are running a custom kernel | 15:52 |
| pitti | seb128: I guess at some point I'll just make the ACL call non-fatal | 15:52 |
| pitti | but it still worries me why setting the ACL doesn't work | 15:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, it had some recent comments stating: "My '/' and thus also '/media' are not mounted with ACL support enabled, | 15:53 |
| seb128 | so that's why it fails to set the ACL (and why the directory it created | 15:53 |
| seb128 | gets removed again)" | 15:53 |
| pitti | right, I saw that too, but that can hardly be the case for all those reporters? | 15:53 |
| seb128 | I doubt it is indeed... | 15:53 |
| seb128 | it's one possible case of issue though | 15:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, anyway if you watch it good, I just noticed it was quite active with user comments | 15:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, second one I wanted to ask about ... the gnome-session suspend one, do you think you will have time soon or should I steal it from you by midweek if you didn't get to it? | 15:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, (mid-week because I think I will be busy with GNOME 3.6.2 and blueprint until there, then I can have a look) | 15:55 |
| qengho | gema: I do love testing, but my to-do list is pretty full for the near future. I don't want to claim it and let the idea languish. | 15:55 |
| pitti | seb128: I had my hands full today with sponsoring, gnome 3.6.2, and mail, but can look at it tomorrow morning | 15:55 |
| gema | qengho: alright, no worries, can you put it at the bottom of your list and let me know if/when it gets done? | 15:55 |
| gema | qengho: that way we can change our automation whenever you get to it and make it more reliable | 15:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, no hurry, I will grab it on thursday if you didn't get to it by then ;-) | 15:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, deal? | 15:56 |
| pitti | seb128: *shake hands* | 15:57 |
| qengho | gema: I do not know anything about webdriver, but, as far as I can tell, this isn't actually tied to chromium-browser, is it? The same people write it, but the product is separate? | 15:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^5 | 15:57 |
| seb128 | oh | 15:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, love that | 15:57 |
| seb128 | " * debian/control: Add missing libxext-dev dependency to libcairo2-dev. | 15:57 |
| seb128 | Spotted by autopkgtest." | 15:57 |
| pitti | wow, and libarchive autopkgtest shows bugs on i386 | 15:57 |
| gema | qengho: my understanding was that it gets built from the same codeline | 15:57 |
| pitti | seb128: that's what I meant with what I said 10 mins ago; je l'aime :) | 15:57 |
| qengho | Huh. | 15:57 |
| gema | qengho: but I will dig into it to make sure that's true | 15:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, moi aussi ! | 15:58 |
| gema | qengho: I will let you know in a couple of days, whenever I find out, now that I know who to talk to on the ubuntu side, things are easier :D | 15:58 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:58 |
| pitti | seb128: we run into errors like that all the time, which is why I was so eager to get lots of those simple ones | 15:58 |
| chrisccoulson | qengho, gema, i'm pretty sure that webdriver is an entirely separate project | 15:59 |
| qengho | gema: there may be some kind of interprocess communication here. One part is in browswer (and I should claim that part) and another part is outside (and I'm scared of it so far). | 15:59 |
| gema | qengho: so what is your advice? | 16:00 |
| qengho | gema: you should look into it, definitely. I'll peek around the source of chromium-browser and make sure I have turned on everything that should be turned on. | 16:01 |
| qengho | gema: meet back here in a few days. | 16:01 |
| gema | qengho: ack, thanks, will do | 16:01 |
| pitti | j'aime duolingo; "Une deuxiéme bière?" -- c'est l'éducation pratique! | 16:08 |
| qengho | "A second beer?"? Gosh, my FR is rusty. | 16:09 |
| qengho | I usually end up ordering butter. | 16:09 |
| pitti | oh, "beurre"? :-) | 16:09 |
| pitti | bonne nuit tout le monde! | 16:23 |
| qengho | laters! | 16:23 |
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| Sweetshark | ohhh, I made it to computerworlduk.com: http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2012/11/does-rooting-your-phone-void-your-warranty/index.htm | 17:49 |
| xnox | Sweetshark: next up you need to get an Apple II and stick the tablet inside it and run firefox..... | 17:57 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Bon soir, Sebastien! | 17:59 |
| GunnarHj | Considering that you asked for the SRU of bug 1069886, could you please upload the branch I prepared to quantal-proposed? ;-) | 17:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1069886 in mail-notification (Ubuntu Quantal) "mail-notification crashes on SSL connections (patch attached)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069886 | 17:59 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey, I'm about to go for some exercice but I will have a look later or tomorrow for sure, thanks for the work! | 18:01 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok. Happy exercicing! | 18:02 |
| seb128 | thanks | 18:02 |
| * didrocks waves goodbye | 18:22 | |
| cyphermox | seb128: still around? | 18:25 |
| cyphermox | in evolution-indicator, debian/patches/01_no_debug_spamming.patch, it's from you? | 18:25 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey | 18:40 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, yes, I think so, why? | 18:40 |
| cyphermox | just checking, I'm merging the patches into evolution-indicator | 18:40 |
| cyphermox | it's tiny though, so no worries | 18:41 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ok | 18:41 |
| Sweetshark | asac: ping? | 19:31 |
| BrainPaid | helloooo | 20:19 |
| BrainPaid | JCuber? | 20:19 |
| BrainPaid | You don't be go! | 20:20 |
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