[19:54] <AlanBell> so, everyone see the advert for ubuntu on the phone thing?
[19:55] <AlanBell> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iv1Z7bf4jXY
[20:10] <k1l> that raises the question: when will a device (or the software for other devices) be available?
[20:10] <AlanBell> it does rather
[20:10] <AlanBell> I can't work out why that advert exists really
[20:10] <k1l> yep
[20:10] <AlanBell> it is a great concept
[20:11] <IdleOne> I love the idea, it makes me want to buy an android phone
[20:11] <IdleOne> and I HATE mobiles
[20:11] <k1l> maybe they need more screaming users to convince the manufacturers
[20:12] <AlanBell> maybe
[20:12] <AlanBell> the first round of publicity was advertising to the OEMs really
[20:12] <IdleOne> I also can't figure out why the ad if there are no manufacturers selling them yet.
[20:12] <AlanBell> but this one looks very much targetted at end users
[20:13] <AlanBell> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android talks about benefits for network operators and handset manufacturers
[20:13] <AlanBell> people got all excited about that, but it was never a consumer pitch
[20:13] <IdleOne> I'm sold. I don't need more info. I need to know where can I buy it
[20:14] <k1l> IdleOne: yep, i do want that too
[20:14] <k1l> would be nice on my nexus4 that im buying in some hours :)
[20:14] <IdleOne> also would this work only on wifi or do the docks have an ethernet port?
[20:15] <AlanBell> ooh tomorrow is nexus10 day
[20:15] <k1l> AlanBell: yep, make sure your f5 button is working. there will be a rush on the nexus devices this time
[20:17] <IdleOne> oh, Samsung has "smart docks" with ports
[20:17] <AlanBell> I might not get the nexus 10 tomorrow, I haven't worked out how to justify putting it on expenses yet
[20:18] <IdleOne> hmm seems they don't have an ethernet port
[20:18] <AlanBell> presume it has hdmi though
[20:18] <IdleOne> it does
[20:19] <AlanBell> and USB, anything else?
[20:19] <IdleOne> 3 usb ports, hdmi.
[20:19] <IdleOne> http://gigaom.com/mobile/smart-dock-turns-galaxy-note-2-into-an-android-computer/
[20:20] <IdleOne> just thinking that a dock with ethernet would be very useful for people who don't want or have unlimited data plan
[20:20] <IdleOne> Ubuntu for android would also have network-manager I assume
[20:21] <AlanBell> dunno, I never plug my laptop into ethernet
[20:21] <AlanBell> wireless just works and has connected by the time I have sat down anywhere
[20:21] <AlanBell> I think a nexus 10 with a bluetooth keyboard/mouse would be interesting running ubuntu
[20:22] <IdleOne> right, but they are advertising this as a phone/computer. people might start to use this as the main computing device and using wifi all the time might not be what they want.
[20:24] <AlanBell> maybe
[20:24] <AlanBell> but I think most people will have a wireless router at the point the phone comes into the house, and they won't want to run wires to where the computer should be
[20:25] <AlanBell> and I increasingly get the impression that Canonical is not interested in office users
[20:28] <IdleOne> you need to run the wires for your monitor,keyboard,mouse anyway
[20:30] <AlanBell> but not from my front door :)
[20:31] <IdleOne> true, but until you sit at your desk you would still be using the device as a phone.
[20:31] <AlanBell> most home desks won't have cat5 to them is my point
[20:31] <AlanBell> power, yes
[20:32] <IdleOne> I have 3 desks in my house on 2 floors. all are wired
[20:32] <AlanBell> yup
[20:32] <AlanBell> I have ripped out the wire that I did have
[20:33] <AlanBell> got powerline networking for one computer and for the TV/sky box
[20:33] <AlanBell> and wii
[20:36] <AlanBell> the rest, including the camera is all wifi
[21:39] <genii-around> We have 7 computer stations here, all are wired with a gigabit switch. Tucked all the wires in the wall last year and put network faceplates.
[21:40] <genii-around> ( at home , at work there's a *lot* more wires and crap hanging everywhere )