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| cking | smb, make deb-pkg INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 | 09:18 |
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| xnox | is peromnii readyboot stuff proprietary? as presented at korea linux forum | 12:07 |
| xnox | ogasawara: I am looking at the useful http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/weatherreport.html but it looks like it's still looking for quantal. | 12:48 |
| xnox | Can you please s/quantal/raring/ ? | 12:49 |
| janimo | apw, is there some doc about how to ship firmware files from a kernel package? | 12:54 |
| janimo | I see patches in the quantal-backport branch that add a file and touch firmware/Makefile | 12:55 |
| janimo | but there must be some extra scaffolding I guess | 12:55 |
| janimo | generating fwinfo under abi/ | 12:55 |
| ogra_ | janimo, please dont ship the firmware in the kernel, ship it separately | 12:56 |
| apw | i'd be looking at that one for sure, as it must have everything you need | 12:56 |
| janimo | ogra_, what did that change again? | 12:56 |
| ogra_ | i thought that was clear since last week | 12:56 |
| janimo | apw, yes it has everything I just don't know what exactly to look at | 12:56 |
| janimo | ogra_, to me it seemed we do it the fastest via kernel and decide later if we want to reorganize | 12:56 |
| apw | janimo, i know of no docs indeed. rtg did the work and has been waking up about now :) so i'd poke him | 12:56 |
| ogra_ | janimo, unless you know how to hack up the kernel packaging to also show license debconf notes etc | 12:57 |
| janimo | apw, thanks | 12:57 |
| janimo | ogra_, the thing was discuseed last meeting and that we do not need to show anything on package install | 12:57 |
| janimo | just in the installer or on cdimaer | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | if we have to show it in the installer we need to show it at package installation | 12:57 |
| janimo | according to achiang | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | people can install the package on any arm system to use/inspect it | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | if we have to show the license at install time there is no way around to show it at package install time | 12:58 |
| apw | damnable binary junk | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | if we dont have to show it at package install tiome we dont need to show it in the installer either | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | as i understood it we need to show it if we distribute the files | 12:59 |
| janimo | ogra_, I am not sure about what to show when, just that it was decided at last meeting I ship it in the kernel package and if anyting comes up later we fix that | 12:59 |
| ogra_ | so the license needs to be shown for any way we distribute | 12:59 |
| ogra_ | janimo, remember i had hangout issues last meeting | 12:59 |
| janimo | ogra_, that was not my impression after all the back and forth talk honestly, but I would not be surprised by another change of stance | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | but if we dont show it on package install time i will drop the WI for the installer too | 13:00 |
| janimo | ogra_, yes, drop it I'd say | 13:00 |
| janimo | and we can put it back if someone request it | 13:00 |
| * ogra_ thought everything was clear after the longish discussion on IRC | 13:00 | |
| janimo | victorp I think had the final word | 13:00 |
| janimo | and I think achiang too agreed | 13:00 |
| janimo | nothing is clear when it comes to 'damnable binary junk' | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | and neither of them is around | 13:01 |
| janimo | I just hoped copying frimware files in the tree would just install them, but as this is kernel packaging things are not that simple | 13:02 |
| ogra_ | just use a .install file | 13:03 |
| ogra_ | though i really think we should keep the closed firmware separate from the open kernel | 13:03 |
| * xnox though linux-firmware-nonfree was the package for blobs.... | 13:04 | |
| ogra_ | xnox, yes, but that is generated from our kernel tree | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | which we dont use in nexus7 | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | linux-firmware-nonfree-nexus7 is what we should have imho | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | and meta depending on it | 13:05 |
| xnox | sounds sensible.... but then I don't do kernel packaging. | 13:07 |
| * ogra_ only does it if teher is no way around it :) | 13:07 | |
| * henrix -> lunch | 13:09 | |
| apw | herton, i see in your original drafts of the 3.5-stable thing it was ubuntu/linux-stable.git, but in your announcement i see ubuntu/linux.git ... i wonder at the change | 13:16 |
| herton | apw, it's where you/rtg recomended last week to put the branches on, at ubuntu/linux | 13:17 |
| apw | herton, i don't recall that, i recall being asked if that tree was safe to use as a --reference | 13:18 |
| apw | i don't recall discussing where to put those branches, or more specificially i didn't realise that was what i was discussing | 13:18 |
| smb | apw, It was what I understood in that discussion | 13:18 |
| apw | well crap, sounds like i wasn't listening very well | 13:19 |
| smb | Or the two of us... ;) | 13:19 |
| * janimo also does kernel packaging if there's no way around it :) | 13:20 | |
| * apw reads the logs ... ok i only said about reference and then didn't comment again | 13:20 | |
| apw | clearly i didn't listen at all :) | 13:21 |
| apw | to add to the discussion, my only worry is that i have been storing all the u* tags in there which might be very confusing for anyone looking at the repo for stable stuff | 13:21 |
| herton | yeah I don't know, it's not immutable, I can change the URL later, and put the right one when I start to do the releases if needed | 13:22 |
| apw | i guess i could evict those to another repo as well | 13:23 |
| herton | I mean, we can revisit where we put things if needed | 13:23 |
| apw | herton, while on the subject do you have a tag naming scheme in mind, are you just going to use v3.5.x or something else | 13:28 |
| herton | apw, what I plan is v3.5.7-ext.<number> | 13:29 |
| herton | ext meaning "extended" | 13:29 |
| apw | that feels difficult, i wonder if we could just use v3.5.8u or u3.5.8 and onwards | 13:30 |
| apw | though that last would clash with my naming | 13:30 |
| apw | though we could ask for the v3.5.x range from greg and just use that | 13:31 |
| BenC | apw: Too quick…I was starting dput with the right change... | 13:32 |
| BenC | I'll exit and merge yours | 13:32 |
| apw | BenC, hopefully i did it right | 13:32 |
| herton | apw, well the only reasoning I chose that is to reflect more reality, we are not upstream stable, and if they unlikely decide to release a new v3.5 we don't clash. I think Greg will ignore us as always, or deny the use of v3.5.y | 13:32 |
| apw | as it takes a long damn time to build | 13:32 |
| BenC | If only it had picked the other buildd, it would have been half the time…two flavours used to take only 2.2 hours on that buildd, so 4 flavours shouldn't take 8 hours :/ | 13:33 |
| apw | we never get lucky | 13:33 |
| BenC | Thanks for the upload though | 13:33 |
| apw | BenC, it was a mostly selfish action to try and get britany to be happy, but you are welcome | 13:34 |
| apw | BenC, dunno if it makes sense for me to have rights on your repo so i can help in these siturations; your call | 13:34 |
| BenC | apw: as long as I can pull from ubuntu-raring:ppc it all works out just as well | 13:34 |
| apw | ack | 13:35 |
| BenC | apw: do you have a github account? | 13:35 |
| apw | BenC, yeah awhitcroft | 13:36 |
| apw | BenC, also while i think about it, do you have a repo for -meta or is that just apt-get source job | 13:37 |
| BenC | apw: I've added you to the repo | 13:37 |
| apw | BenC, thanks, i will try not to need to use it | 13:37 |
| BenC | apw: added you to that repo as well | 13:38 |
| apw | herton, so ... perhaps v3.5.7u1 u2 etc | 13:39 |
| apw | something nice and short | 13:39 |
| herton | works for me, that's ok as well | 13:41 |
| herton | and looks nicer indeed | 13:42 |
| BenC | ogasawara: linux-ppc exists now, btw | 13:59 |
| ogasawara | BenC: ack, thanks. I'll have jsalisbury look at moving bugs over tomorrow when he's back from today's holiday. | 14:00 |
| BenC | Thanks | 14:00 |
| apw | herton, remind me how i check whether i have applied things to the right bits in hardy, there is a magic incantion | 14:13 |
| herton | apw, hmm let me check, I have to remember as well :) | 14:13 |
| apw | must be validate-patch-range | 14:13 |
| apw | herton, ahh got it ... | 14:14 |
| apw | apw@dm:~/git2/ubuntu-hardy$ debian/scripts/misc/validate-patch-range HEAD^ HEAD | 14:14 |
| apw | f1b33e80f6bcc2f6b3c7edc4ceafab5466fbd33c: not ported to openvz | 14:14 |
| apw | f1b33e80f6bcc2f6b3c7edc4ceafab5466fbd33c: not ported to xen | 14:14 |
| herton | apw, and use apply-patch-to-binary-custom to apply them | 14:14 |
| herton | then just fold the changes on top | 14:14 |
| apw | herton, awsome ... works like a charm | 14:15 |
| * smb wonders how much sense those make, but well if there is a simple way to get them | 14:16 | |
| caribou | smb, got a question about the SRU query I just sent to the list | 15:28 |
| caribou | or anyone else that care to answer | 15:28 |
| smb | So let it hear and we let you know whether we care :) | 15:29 |
| caribou | regarding hpwdt, should I have included a diff of the config files instead of just listing the config options ? | 15:29 |
| caribou | smb :) | 15:29 |
| caribou | smb: since I supposed that those options would end up being setup by editconfigs anyway | 15:30 |
| smb | caribou, Usually its nice to have the patch as well. Just for life being simpler that way | 15:30 |
| caribou | smb: yeah, thought of it as well but wasn't too sure which config files was targeted precisely | 15:31 |
| caribou | smb: ok, will do next itme | 15:31 |
| caribou | s/itme/time/ | 15:31 |
| smb | Probably having them added to the main ubuntu configs file and run updateconfigs and then check the result | 15:31 |
| caribou | smb: ok will do | 15:32 |
| BenC | apw: Almost a winner…fixing it now | 16:40 |
| * apw cries | 16:40 | |
| BenC | apw: I disabled pccard in my last upload and didn't remember that d-i would be affected. Is there a way to disable a d-i package for just one flavor? | 16:42 |
| BenC | Honestly, I don't think pcmcia even matters on any of the powerpc flavours for udeb's | 16:45 |
| * ppisati -> gym | 17:07 | |
| * henrix -> EOD | 18:27 | |
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| kees | apw: any thoughts on my checkpatch change on lkml for the CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL removal warnings? | 22:17 |
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