[18:47] <wrst> hello chris4585
[18:47] <chris4585> hey wrst, anything new?
[18:47] <wrst> chris4585: i had to go to kde from gnome
[18:47] <wrst> how about with you?
[18:48] <chris4585> whys that? :o
[18:48] <chris4585> well I'm still on openbox + cairo-dock
[18:48] <chris4585> gnome on manjaro was using like 50% of my cpu halfway through the day
[18:58] <wrst> chris4585: i like gnome but they keep on removing features, and extensions from one version to another don't work and i spend more time setting it up than i should have to
[18:59] <wrst> at least kde has the ability to be what i want without adding third party tools for the most part
[18:59] <wrst> that break with every upgrade
[19:32] <chris4585> wrst, the extensions usually you just have to go to the text file and just add 3.6 to the supported list
[19:32] <chris4585> usually, sometimes that doesn't work
[19:33] <chris4585> that is understandable, if and when nautilus 3.6 gets updated, I'll still try to use 3.4 or something built off of nautilus like marlin
[19:33] <wrst> chris4585: many didn't work they made it harder to remove and put icons in the top bar etc just not worth the hassle really
[19:34] <chris4585> ah, I figured you would go with xfce before kde lol
[19:36] <wrst> chris4585: takes lots of tweaking to get it were i want it mainly
[19:37] <chris4585> yeah, gnome is going to kill itself before it ever gets better, they just don't realize it yet
[19:39] <wrst> yes they are just so hard headed they don't care
[20:04] <chris4585> yep
[20:04] <chris4585> in other news looks like mate is becoming more stable
[20:04] <chris4585> http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_nadia_whatsnew.php
[20:05] <wrst> never thought i woudl go that route chris4585... but...
[20:06] <chris4585> and adding features now that they have fixed bugs that gnome devs never did by the looks of it
[20:07] <wrst> looks nice i'm just so not a mint fan
[20:11] <chris4585> I actually love mint, everything bad about it can be removed
[20:11] <chris4585> I feel like mint puts way more polish on their releases and actually care, compared to ubuntu...
[20:15] <wrst> i would rather add than remove personally
[20:15] <wrst> but that's why i run arch on the desktop also :)
[20:48] <chris4585> wrst, I don't really mind removing, I'm just lazy when it comes to installing arch the old way
[20:48] <chris4585> archbang is now updated and already comes configured with the wm I know and love
[20:48] <chris4585> so I'm probably going to install it soon
[20:49] <wrst> arch isn't too bad just have the wiki handy and you are good to go
[20:50] <chris4585> yeah but I'm a lazy mofo
[20:51] <wrst> its no fun for someone else to do all the work ;)
[22:33] <chris4585> wrst, you have a point there
[22:33] <chris4585> but you can learn someone else's secrets too
[22:34] <chris4585> by dissecting what they did lol
[23:24] <chris4585> wrst, http://i.imgur.com/y0dJT.jpg
[23:32] <wrst> nice chris4585
[23:37] <chris4585> thanks wrst :)
[23:39] <wrst> chris4585: i'm just at regular ol' kde: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2959906/kde4.png
[23:40] <chris4585> doesn't look bad, can quassel be configured to be black background with white text?
[23:41] <wrst> chris4585: i think so, you can do stylesheets of some sort
[23:41] <wrst> chris4585: that is just vanilla with a changed wallpaper
[23:41] <chris4585> ah I may have to really try it sometime
[23:41] <wrst> and dropbox icon i had to change
[23:42] <wrst> well i like it i have for some time just liked gnome apps and work flow but good to learn something different :)
[23:43] <wrst> i have to say short of the silly blue shadow thing there is a lot of polish to it
[23:45] <chris4585> ah, I like KDE but I just don't like their whole thing for separate desktop thingy where it changes settings
[23:46] <chris4585> I forgot what it was called
[23:46] <chris4585> the theme you have is nice
[23:46] <wrst> that's just the stock kde 4.9 theme
[23:46] <wrst> i have done nothing to that
[23:50] <chris4585> ah
[23:54] <wrst> pretty slick straight out of the box
[23:54] <chris4585> yeah definitely
[23:55] <wrst> gnome shell is also but to make it work for me i have to use some extensions and what not
[23:55] <wrst> and this is pretty much stock i mad some cosmetic adjustments so all my icons are monochrome but nothint that effects my workflow