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=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za
Kilosgood morning guys05:22
Kilosstart of another week05:22
mazalMore oom Kilos 05:24
Kilosdag mazal 05:24
nuvolario/ môre oom Kilos  :>05:24
Kiloslo nuvolari mooi om jou hier te sien05:25
Kilosheres a question for you clever kids.05:26
Kiloscan one take a chance and plug a sata drives power cable in while your system is running05:26
Kilosdidnt used to be safe with ide drives on older pcs05:28
Kiloshaving an external would be the right way but not an option here05:29
mazalNever have done it , but wouldn't advice it05:29
Kilosif i boot with it plugged in as second drive i cant boot05:29
Kilossjoe 05:30
mazalI would rather take a chance on the data cable. But also , never have done it. Dunno if it might cause damage05:30
Kilosah thats an idea05:31
Kilosbios can see it so its in its software that its causing probs for my drive05:32
Kilosits amazing how winsucks peeps go out of their way to fillup regularly with virii and malware and whatever else they can find05:33
Kiloshi psydroid 05:47
psydroidhi Kilos05:51
nuvolariKilos: net vir 'n rukkie oom05:52
Kilosdis beter as niks nuvolari 05:52
Squirmmorning06:02
Kiloshi Squirm 06:03
mazalMorning Squirm nuvolari psydroid 06:04
nuvolarihowdy Squirm, mazal 06:04
psydroidmorning mazal06:04
psydroidhi nuvolari06:04
Squirmmeh06:05
Squirmtired as usual06:05
Squirmmaybe this time some more06:06
Squirm:P06:06
Squirmhow goes nuvolari ? been a while06:06
psydroidhi Squirm06:06
Kiloshi SmilyBorg_w 06:22
SmilyBorg_whi06:22
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Kilosoh psydroid that drive had been kinda screwed and its pc too06:23
Kilostried it in here and tried to install 12.04 unity then kde then win 98 and xp06:24
Kilosall installed hlfway then hung06:24
Kilosso i zeroed it from this drive and booted from 12.04 and it installed and runs here06:24
Kilosbnut still big bugs in his pcs mb06:25
Kilossorry for wasting you guys time06:26
psydroidoh, it's ok06:30
psydroiddid you manage to save the data?06:30
Kilosnope all gone06:31
Kilosbig story behind the whole thing06:32
Kiloshe used it to clean virii off windows drives then it couldnt boot so he somehow used winsucks to run antivirus on his ubuntu and it emptied everything except all the folders06:33
Kilosor for some reason they just showed empty from here06:34
Kiloswhen he saw the were all empty he said ok! do what you gotta do but save the drive please06:34
Kiloswas very lekker to have him here albeit for such a short time.havent seen him since before last christmas methinks06:35
psydroidoh06:37
Kilosand he has found a chick that mothers him and sees he takes his meds on time so thats good too06:38
psydroidyeah06:39
KilosMaaz, seen superfly 06:41
MaazKilos: superfly was last seen 17 hours, 25 minutes and 54 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-11-11 05:15:59 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-11-06 22:15:23 PST06:41
Kilosoh my where be the fly06:42
jrgnsmorning all06:55
Kiloshi jrgns 06:56
Kiloshi SilverCode Vince-0 08:34
SilverCodehi Kilos08:34
Kilosmorning inetpro ty for the help08:34
Vince-0Haai08:35
SilverCodeanyone here use KMail/Kontact?08:40
Kilosi think the fly said other day kmail sucks nowadays08:42
SilverCodeI think I would agree with him08:42
Kiloshe uses thunderbird and i use evolution08:42
Kilosi gave up trying to get kmail working08:43
SilverCodeI started using KMail because it originally handled meeting requests better than Thunderbird08:43
SilverCodebut now it seems to get confused about meeting times08:44
Kilosand not too keen on thunderbird and find evolution is close to what it was before the unity time08:44
Kiloshehe08:44
Kiloskinda frustrating hey08:44
SilverCodeyeah08:47
SilverCodeoriginally it was just setting meeting times back by an hour08:48
SilverCodeand I mentally adjusted to that08:48
SilverCodenow with the latest update, it is sending emails with a timestamp 1 hour in the past08:48
SilverCodewhich people are complaining about08:48
SilverCode*sigh* Maybe it is time to switch to a new client08:48
Kiloseish08:48
SquirmMaaz: coffee please08:48
MaazSquirm: There isn't a pot on08:48
SquirmMaaz: coffee on08:49
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:49
KilosMaaz, coffee please08:49
MaazKilos: Alrighty08:49
KilosSilverCode, you havent attended one of our monthly meetings yet have you?08:49
Kilosnext monday evening at 19.3008:50
Kilosplease try come08:50
SilverCodeKilos: JHB or CPT?08:50
SquirmSilverCode: right here08:50
Kilosno man here online08:50
SilverCodeah08:50
Kilosright here in ubuntu-za08:50
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!08:53
KilosMaaz, ty08:53
MaazYou are welcome Kilos08:53
SilverCodeKilos: will try remember08:53
SilverCodeKilos: I would set a reminder in Kontact, but I'll only get it 1 hour late :(08:53
Kiloslol if you come online during the day ill remind you08:54
Kiloshehe08:54
Kiloseish08:54
Kilosno man dump kmail08:54
SquirmSilverCode: why 1 hour late?09:06
SilverCodeSquirm: because KMail/Kontact is full of bugs, one of which is always setting meetings an hour late09:09
Squirmlol09:22
zerefhmmmmmm09:22
zerefbeen offered 1st full time job :D09:23
Kilosnice well done09:23
Kilostake it. work is hard to come by09:24
zerefthanks.09:25
zerefwill let them know tomoz09:25
Kilosthumbs up09:26
superflyMaaz: tell Kilos I am out of the office today, but I'm fine10:07
Maazsuperfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode10:07
Squirmtell Trixar_za I forgot what to tell Maaz to tell you, I think it was semi important, so please remind me :/10:38
SquirmMaaz: tell Trixar_za I forgot what to tell Maaz to tell you, I think it was semi important, so please remind me :/10:38
MaazSquirm: Okay, I'll tell Trixar_za on freenode10:38
inetprolol10:40
inetprogood afternoon everyone10:40
=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za
SquirmTrixar_za: ?10:54
Squirmsay something10:54
Squirmanything10:54
Squirmnow10:54
Squirmplease?10:54
Trixar_zaHey Squirm10:56
MaazTrixar_za: By the way, Squirm on freenode told me "tell Trixar_za I forgot what to tell Maaz to tell you, I think it was semi important, so please remind me :/" 18 minutes and 16 seconds ago10:56
Trixar_zaThe swimming thing?10:57
Trixar_za:P10:57
Squirmoh11:01
Squirmnot that important11:01
Squirmnevermind :P11:01
SquirmI just forgot what it was11:01
Trixar_zalol11:08
Trixar_zaLike mailing certain things11:08
Trixar_za:P11:08
=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za
Kiloshi guys what is the command to add restricted extras on 12.10 please13:30
Kilostara has woken up at last13:30
superflyKilos: install ubuntu-restricted-extras13:39
SquirmKilos: what superfly said13:40
Kilosty superfly 13:40
Kilosat last she is gatvol of winsucks blue screen of death they call it13:40
Kilosso 1 TB drive all partitioned my way13:41
Kilosbusy installing13:41
Vince-0whoot14:03
Vince-0winblows14:03
Vince-0so, Kilos! you like the main guy in here hey14:03
Kiloslol14:06
Kilossometimes the only14:07
Vince-0ya IRC hey14:09
Vince-0still the kewlest IM14:09
Vince-0do you use Google+/talk at all ??14:09
Kilosnope eat dat14:10
Kilossudo apt-get dist-upgrade is taking forever by tara and shows a ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~14:13
Kilosthat is growing slowly14:14
Kilossudo apt-get upgrade went quick14:14
Kiloscan she kill it safely?14:14
Vince-0is it still downloading or has it got to updating part yet14:16
Kilosi dunno she is sending a screenshot14:17
Kilosmaybe taken with camera i dunno14:17
Kilosit did upgrade in a  1/4 of the time taken for this dist-upgrade so far14:18
Vince-0ew14:19
Vince-0dist-upgrade is to the next version14:19
Vince-0I like your monthly IRC meet agenda14:20
Vince-0well, the fact that its planned - is it usually well attended?14:20
Kiloshttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Krice_Verta/KernelThing.jpg14:20
Kilosis it gonna finish it at least14:20
Kilosis that still downloading or waiting for a product name or something14:22
Vince-0it looks to be updating14:22
Vince-0inbetween all the key-press characters on the screen14:22
Vince-0I think downloading is done14:22
Kiloscan we hit enter then and see14:23
Kilosit can just keep making those long lines14:23
Kilosits over 30 mins now methinks14:24
Kilosi told her hit enter and14:26
Kilos3) Debs: Said "MemoryError"14:26
Kilos(16:24:52) Debs: And took me to the prompt bar again where I type in a command14:27
Kilos(16:25:09) Debs: At the top it says "Exception information"14:27
Vince-0woah, dunno about that14:28
Vince-0looks like there was a key stuck or something with all those characters14:28
Kiloslooks like it was finished14:34
Vince-0home time!15:16
Kiloscan someone please give me the full commands to use for cat and tail and the /var/log/syslog thing15:36
Kilosso i can get tara to pastebin it for us because her 12.10 freezes now and again same as the winsucks was doing15:37
Kilosactuall winsucks went blue screen15:37
Kiloswill get more info from her when she replaces battery and we have setup bios. she didnt even know what or where the bios battery was15:38
Kilosnot easy fixing pcs 8000 ks away15:38
Kilosi dunno if its in ram or mb or bios her prob but she been battling for weaks and now has come to ubuntu15:40
Kilosi also dunno if /var/log/syslog will show the prob but will try help her15:42
* superfly pokes Kilos16:39
Kilosyip superfly 16:40
superflyMy day is finally over (almost)16:40
superflyOn the train on the way home.16:41
Kilosyay16:41
Kilosmissed you16:41
Kilostara is using 12.10 superfly 16:41
superflyi saw so16:42
Kilosso there is progress16:43
nuvolari:-/ freakin sad about the fire disaster in St. Francis baai17:14
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos 17:15
mazalEvening all17:23
Kiloslo nuvolari mazal 17:25
Kilosinetpro, 17:25
inetproKilos: eh17:25
Kiloshet jy gehooer nuvolari tara op 12.1017:25
inetproyou spying on me?17:25
Kilosgehoor17:25
Kiloswhy17:25
* inetpro just stepped into the room17:25
Kiloslol17:25
inetprogood evenng17:26
inetproKilos: is it not perhaps a dusty cpu?17:27
Kiloshad a long day doing a advanced 12.10 install onna 1TB drive with separate  / /boot /home /storage and /spare17:27
Kilosshe has had it in to the pc shop 4 times17:27
Kilosnow there isnt a trace of windows left there17:28
nuvolariKilos: hi nee ek't nie gehoor nie oom17:28
Kiloslol17:28
nuvolariso sy is sonder venstertjies?17:28
mazalWhat's wrong with the pc Kilos ?17:28
nuvolarihowdy Cantide 17:29
Cantidehey nuvolari, mazal, Kilos '-'17:29
Cantideand others >_>17:29
mazalHi Cantide17:29
Kilosit hung when streaming from youtube17:29
Kilosbut her windows went blue screen daily17:29
inetproKilos: it's probably overheating, but that's just a guess17:29
inetproKilos: if her machine uses ACPI she can check the temperature values with17:32
inetprocat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature17:32
inetprohmm...17:32
Kiloswow power cut or whatever killed pc even though ups is working17:35
Kiloswhat i missed\17:35
Kilosoh ya17:38
Kilosshe also calls it winsucks now and used to fight me for running her os down17:42
Kiloshehe17:42
superflyooooo thunder and lightning 17:48
mazalPlak toe die ruite !!!!!!!17:49
mazal:)17:49
Kilosare there cpu thermal monitors available in 12.10?17:50
Kilosi googled but dont see inna repo stuff17:50
Kiloshttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/monitor-hardware-temperature-in-ubuntu.html17:50
Kilosdont want tara to get stuff that not healthy for her pc17:51
Kilosoh ya mazal tara is my unmet daughter17:51
mazalTemp monitors is something I always found lacking in linux17:52
mazalUsually takes a lot of work to get it working17:52
Kilosoh my17:53
Kilosshe be a girl just left windows today17:53
Kilosbut learning to use the terminal quick17:53
mazalI got a lot of flack from friends when I try and get them away from windoze hehehe17:54
Kiloslol she gave me gears to start with but now she agrees17:55
Kilosshe  said to me lets kill winsucks17:55
Kilosi got her using apt-get and aptitude and synaptic17:56
mazalWhy should one use aptitude ?17:56
Kilosi just dunno if there are apps that will improve the streaming thing17:56
Kiloslike from youtube17:56
Kilosbecause aptitude is better than apt-get17:57
Kiloshi Gez_ 17:57
mazalI've never used it17:57
mazalshoud look at it17:57
Kiloswell ask the guys17:57
Kilosits more user friendly17:57
Kilosand other advantages17:57
Kilosbut no cow stuff17:58
Kilossuper cow powers17:58
Gez_hi Kilos17:58
mazalLooks complicated17:58
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za Gez_ 17:58
Gez_I'm from Argentina, I'm just taking a look :)17:58
Gez_I have a friend here who's southafrican17:59
Gez_and I introduced him to Ubuntu17:59
Kilosno man mazal you just use aptitude in place of apt-get17:59
Kilosworks good17:59
Gez_he's going back to South Africa and he wanted to know if there was a local community there17:59
Kilosubuntu community17:59
Kilos?17:59
Kilosmany17:59
Kiloseach province18:00
Gez_Is there a listing of the cities with stablished communities?18:00
mazalI can't even get the menus activated lol18:00
Kiloswhat menus mazal 18:00
Gez_(I can't remember the name of the city he'll be living in)18:00
mazalAt the top of aptitude18:00
Kilosif he can get to this channel Gez_ he will meet the guys18:00
Gez_Cool. Thank you Kilos.18:01
Kilosaptitude is command line in place of apt-get18:01
Kilosyw Gez_ 18:01
Kiloswhere are you18:01
mazalOh , I just ran sudo aptitude18:02
Kilosoh mazal sudo apt-get install aptitude18:02
Kilosis it installed18:02
CantideGez_, I have an Argentinian friend here in South Africa, haha :)18:02
Cantidebut he doesn't use Ubuntu :'(18:02
Kilosyou have to install it dont come as default anymore18:02
* Cantide sends him back to Argentina18:02
Gez_Those stupid argies :p18:03
Cantide:p18:03
Kilosso what community is he looking for Gez_ 18:03
Gez_I bet he has a pirate copy of Windows whatever18:03
Cantidegood game of rugby against Wales btw '-'18:03
Cantideprobably :-S18:03
Gez_Kilos: I can't remember the name of the city, but I'm already asking them to join this channel and meet some people18:03
Kilosgood18:04
Gez_I wont' do everything for him :)18:04
Kiloslol18:04
mazalYes it's installed Kilos18:04
Kilosoh then just use it in place of apt-get18:04
mazalIf I just run sudo aptitude it opens , but very complicated looking18:04
Gez_Ok, gtg. Thank you guys for the kind welcome and your help. I'll send you your southafrican guy back :)18:04
Kilosyou can do sudo aptitude reinstall package18:05
Gez_See you!18:05
Kiloscheers Gez_ 18:05
Cantidehaha18:05
Cantidebye~18:05
mazalHmm , what can I install to test it......18:05
Kiloswhere apt_get uses install package --reinstall18:05
mazalSo all the commads are the same as apt-get ?18:05
Kilossudo aptitude reinstall xchat18:06
Kilosya18:06
Kilosonly better18:06
Kilosapt-get needs a bit more to reinstall18:06
Kilosnaand tannie magtie 18:07
mazalOk , will try and use it18:07
magtieHallo Kilos & Everyone18:07
mazalHello magtie18:07
magtiehi mazal18:08
Kiloshi smile4ever 18:09
mazalEvening smile4ever18:09
smile4everhi :D18:10
* smile4ever worked hard :(18:10
mazalThis was a rough Monday at my side as well18:11
smile4evertoo much homework :(18:12
smile4ever(only one task, but hours work :p )18:12
mazaloi18:12
Kilosyay inetpro she tried everything nthat made winsucks freeze but now all together and didnt freeze18:13
Kilosso it had allowed something into bios18:14
Kilosbattery out cured it18:14
Kilosai die engelse is slim18:14
mazallol18:14
Kiloshehe18:15
* mazal gonna crash18:15
mazalSleep well everyone18:15
Kilosnight mazal sleep tight18:15
mazalEnjoy the rest of your evening18:15
mazalGod bless18:15
Kilosty sir you too18:16
KilosHe always blesses me18:16
smile4everanyone tried out firefox os yet? :p18:16
Kilosnope18:16
Kilosi dont even use firefox browser18:16
Kiloshi timkeller 18:18
timkellerHi Kilos18:18
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za18:18
timkellerThank you kindly18:18
Kilosnever saeen you here before18:18
Kilosseen either18:18
magespawnevening all18:18
timkellerHeh, not sure I've ever joined #ubuntu-za18:19
Kiloshi magespawn 18:19
timkellerBut #ubuntu is just way to high volume18:19
timkellertoo, even18:19
magespawnhey Kilos18:19
Kilosare you using ubuntu timkeller 18:19
smile4everKilos: that's a shame :p18:19
smile4everi'll try it out in a minute :)18:20
timkellerKilos: oh yes. Switched to ubuntu with 5.04.18:20
Kilosif its not linux its no good smile4ever 18:20
smile4everit IS linux, Kilos :p18:20
Kiloswow timkeller that way back18:20
timkellerKilos: Hipster hey?18:20
Kilosfirefox?is that why all the updates18:21
magespawnsmile4ever: i want to try chrome os18:21
Kilostimkeller, why you took so long to get here18:21
Kilosmgetara is on 12.1018:22
Kilosgrrr18:22
Kilosmagespawn, too18:22
Kilosim happy now both my brats use ubuntu18:22
magespawnon some machines, but the main ones are 12.0418:23
timkellerMy bad Kilos :)18:23
Kiloslol ya18:23
smile4evermagespawn: have you seen it on omgubuntu? :)18:23
smile4everhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-run-chromeos-in-ubuntu18:23
Kilosnuvolari, where you went18:24
Kiloswe get new peeps and the ballie gotta welcome them18:24
Kilosafter a day of killing winsucks18:24
smile4evermagespawn: crash Firefox OS, but it's playing sound / video :D18:25
smile4evera lot of warnings in console :p18:26
magespawnprobable just hardware errors18:27
smile4evernot only that :p18:28
smile4everlol, sound fails :p18:28
cvngood evening18:28
cvnhi smile4ever 18:28
smile4ever(firefox is too slow, probably)18:28
smile4ever:p18:28
cvnMaaz: coffee on18:28
* Maaz flips the salt-timer18:28
cvnMaaz: and rusks18:28
Maazcvn: *blink*18:28
smile4evermagespawn: it's eating RAM :o18:28
cvnMaaz: or stroopwafel, one or the other18:28
Maazcvn: Huh?18:28
smile4ever1,4 gigabyte for a bit of video :p18:29
smile4everwow18:29
smile4ever;)18:29
magespawnjust like firefox browser18:29
smile4everyeah :(18:30
cvnsorry i missed half the conversation, what's up?18:30
smile4everbut firefox os looks good :D18:30
smile4evercvn: i'm trying out firefox os ;)18:30
Kiloshi cvn 18:30
Kilosthat you charl?18:30
cvnyes Kilos 18:31
Kiloshehe18:31
cvnsmile4ever: ah, haven't seen it yet, lemme google18:31
smile4evercvn: google for r2d2b2g18:31
cvnoh it's a mobile operating system, i see now18:31
smile4ever:p18:31
cvnah interesting18:32
cvnit's a firefox extension for firefox os?18:32
MaazCoffee's ready for cvn!18:32
smile4everyes, cvn. to try it out :p18:32
cvnMaaz: thanks18:32
Maazcvn: Sure18:32
smile4everbut I don't recommend using it too long18:32
smile4everit will eat ram :)18:32
cvnthe same counts for firefox :)18:33
smile4ever(just a minute ago, it was using "1666,67 TB"18:33
smile4ever;)18:33
cvnphew18:33
cvnok that's crazy18:33
smile4everyeah18:33
cvnalthough, nothing unusual for firefox ;)18:33
smile4eversome counter is wrong18:33
smile4ever:p18:33
cvnyeah no that can't be18:33
smile4everbut yeah, for sure, my ram was full :p18:33
cvnat first i read megabyte but that's terabyte18:33
smile4everyeah :) a bit higher ;)18:34
magespawnanybody actually use a machine with evem 1TB of ram?18:36
cvnhave never heard of it18:37
cvnmaybe some supercomputers18:37
Kiloslol18:41
Kiloswe got no power again tomorrow18:41
Kilosthe planting poles and turning the three wires vertical18:42
Kilossay its harder for crooks to short out to steal them18:42
smile4evermagespawn: only super pc's :p18:42
magespawnthat would be nice to work on18:44
Kilosi go crash now guys18:47
Kilossleep tight18:47
smile4evermagespawn: indeed it would :D18:48
smile4everI'm thinking about buying a new pc :p18:48
smile4evernext year or so :p18:48
smile4everI hope RAM prices keep this low :p18:48
timkellerAnyone having issues doing an apt update to za.archive.ubuntu.com?19:09
timkellerGetting a "Waiting for Headers" hang.19:09
magespawndid not do an update today but on saturday it missed a whole load19:13
magespawnjust installed puppy to a flash drive using unetbootin19:15
magespawnruns the compaq nx 6110 with no problems so far, network and sound going good19:16
magespawncomes with xchat19:20
smile4everbye :p19:25
magespawnbye smile4ever 19:26
smile4ever:D19:26
smile4evergood night19:26
magespawngood night all19:37
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cvnnn all20:32

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