=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:22] good morning guys [05:22] start of another week [05:24] More oom Kilos [05:24] dag mazal [05:24] o/ môre oom Kilos :> [05:25] lo nuvolari mooi om jou hier te sien [05:26] heres a question for you clever kids. [05:26] can one take a chance and plug a sata drives power cable in while your system is running [05:28] didnt used to be safe with ide drives on older pcs [05:29] having an external would be the right way but not an option here [05:29] Never have done it , but wouldn't advice it [05:29] if i boot with it plugged in as second drive i cant boot [05:30] sjoe [05:30] I would rather take a chance on the data cable. But also , never have done it. Dunno if it might cause damage [05:31] ah thats an idea [05:32] bios can see it so its in its software that its causing probs for my drive [05:33] its amazing how winsucks peeps go out of their way to fillup regularly with virii and malware and whatever else they can find [05:47] hi psydroid [05:51] hi Kilos [05:52] Kilos: net vir 'n rukkie oom [05:52] dis beter as niks nuvolari [06:02] morning [06:03] hi Squirm [06:04] Morning Squirm nuvolari psydroid [06:04] howdy Squirm, mazal [06:04] morning mazal [06:04] hi nuvolari [06:05] meh [06:05] tired as usual [06:06] maybe this time some more [06:06] :P [06:06] how goes nuvolari ? been a while [06:06] hi Squirm [06:22] hi SmilyBorg_w [06:22] hi === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:23] oh psydroid that drive had been kinda screwed and its pc too [06:24] tried it in here and tried to install 12.04 unity then kde then win 98 and xp [06:24] all installed hlfway then hung [06:24] so i zeroed it from this drive and booted from 12.04 and it installed and runs here [06:25] bnut still big bugs in his pcs mb [06:26] sorry for wasting you guys time [06:30] oh, it's ok [06:30] did you manage to save the data? [06:31] nope all gone [06:32] big story behind the whole thing [06:33] he used it to clean virii off windows drives then it couldnt boot so he somehow used winsucks to run antivirus on his ubuntu and it emptied everything except all the folders [06:34] or for some reason they just showed empty from here [06:34] when he saw the were all empty he said ok! do what you gotta do but save the drive please [06:35] was very lekker to have him here albeit for such a short time.havent seen him since before last christmas methinks [06:37] oh [06:38] and he has found a chick that mothers him and sees he takes his meds on time so thats good too [06:39] yeah [06:41] Maaz, seen superfly [06:41] Kilos: superfly was last seen 17 hours, 25 minutes and 54 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-11-11 05:15:59 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-11-06 22:15:23 PST [06:42] oh my where be the fly [06:55] morning all [06:56] hi jrgns [08:34] hi SilverCode Vince-0 [08:34] hi Kilos [08:34] morning inetpro ty for the help [08:35] Haai [08:40] anyone here use KMail/Kontact? [08:42] i think the fly said other day kmail sucks nowadays [08:42] I think I would agree with him [08:42] he uses thunderbird and i use evolution [08:43] i gave up trying to get kmail working [08:43] I started using KMail because it originally handled meeting requests better than Thunderbird [08:44] but now it seems to get confused about meeting times [08:44] and not too keen on thunderbird and find evolution is close to what it was before the unity time [08:44] hehe [08:44] kinda frustrating hey [08:47] yeah [08:48] originally it was just setting meeting times back by an hour [08:48] and I mentally adjusted to that [08:48] now with the latest update, it is sending emails with a timestamp 1 hour in the past [08:48] which people are complaining about [08:48] *sigh* Maybe it is time to switch to a new client [08:48] eish [08:48] Maaz: coffee please [08:48] Squirm: There isn't a pot on [08:49] Maaz: coffee on [08:49] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:49] Maaz, coffee please [08:49] Kilos: Alrighty [08:49] SilverCode, you havent attended one of our monthly meetings yet have you? [08:50] next monday evening at 19.30 [08:50] please try come [08:50] Kilos: JHB or CPT? [08:50] SilverCode: right here [08:50] no man here online [08:50] ah [08:50] right here in ubuntu-za [08:53] Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos! [08:53] Maaz, ty [08:53] You are welcome Kilos [08:53] Kilos: will try remember [08:53] Kilos: I would set a reminder in Kontact, but I'll only get it 1 hour late :( [08:54] lol if you come online during the day ill remind you [08:54] hehe [08:54] eish [08:54] no man dump kmail [09:06] SilverCode: why 1 hour late? [09:09] Squirm: because KMail/Kontact is full of bugs, one of which is always setting meetings an hour late [09:22] lol [09:22] hmmmmmm [09:23] been offered 1st full time job :D [09:23] nice well done [09:24] take it. work is hard to come by [09:25] thanks. [09:25] will let them know tomoz [09:26] thumbs up [10:07] Maaz: tell Kilos I am out of the office today, but I'm fine [10:07] superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [10:38] tell Trixar_za I forgot what to tell Maaz to tell you, I think it was semi important, so please remind me :/ [10:38] Maaz: tell Trixar_za I forgot what to tell Maaz to tell you, I think it was semi important, so please remind me :/ [10:38] Squirm: Okay, I'll tell Trixar_za on freenode [10:40] lol [10:40] good afternoon everyone === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [10:54] Trixar_za: ? [10:54] say something [10:54] anything [10:54] now [10:54] please? [10:56] Hey Squirm [10:56] Trixar_za: By the way, Squirm on freenode told me "tell Trixar_za I forgot what to tell Maaz to tell you, I think it was semi important, so please remind me :/" 18 minutes and 16 seconds ago [10:57] The swimming thing? [10:57] :P [11:01] oh [11:01] not that important [11:01] nevermind :P [11:01] I just forgot what it was [11:08] lol [11:08] Like mailing certain things [11:08] :P === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [13:30] hi guys what is the command to add restricted extras on 12.10 please [13:30] tara has woken up at last [13:39] Kilos: install ubuntu-restricted-extras [13:40] Kilos: what superfly said [13:40] ty superfly [13:40] at last she is gatvol of winsucks blue screen of death they call it [13:41] so 1 TB drive all partitioned my way [13:41] busy installing [14:03] whoot [14:03] winblows [14:03] so, Kilos! you like the main guy in here hey [14:06] lol [14:07] sometimes the only [14:09] ya IRC hey [14:09] still the kewlest IM [14:09] do you use Google+/talk at all ?? [14:10] nope eat dat [14:13] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is taking forever by tara and shows a ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [14:14] that is growing slowly [14:14] sudo apt-get upgrade went quick [14:14] can she kill it safely? [14:16] is it still downloading or has it got to updating part yet [14:17] i dunno she is sending a screenshot [14:17] maybe taken with camera i dunno [14:18] it did upgrade in a 1/4 of the time taken for this dist-upgrade so far [14:19] ew [14:19] dist-upgrade is to the next version [14:20] I like your monthly IRC meet agenda [14:20] well, the fact that its planned - is it usually well attended? [14:20] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Krice_Verta/KernelThing.jpg [14:20] is it gonna finish it at least [14:22] is that still downloading or waiting for a product name or something [14:22] it looks to be updating [14:22] inbetween all the key-press characters on the screen [14:22] I think downloading is done [14:23] can we hit enter then and see [14:23] it can just keep making those long lines [14:24] its over 30 mins now methinks [14:26] i told her hit enter and [14:26] 3) Debs: Said "MemoryError" [14:27] (16:24:52) Debs: And took me to the prompt bar again where I type in a command [14:27] (16:25:09) Debs: At the top it says "Exception information" [14:28] woah, dunno about that [14:28] looks like there was a key stuck or something with all those characters [14:34] looks like it was finished [15:16] home time! [15:36] can someone please give me the full commands to use for cat and tail and the /var/log/syslog thing [15:37] so i can get tara to pastebin it for us because her 12.10 freezes now and again same as the winsucks was doing [15:37] actuall winsucks went blue screen [15:38] will get more info from her when she replaces battery and we have setup bios. she didnt even know what or where the bios battery was [15:38] not easy fixing pcs 8000 ks away [15:40] i dunno if its in ram or mb or bios her prob but she been battling for weaks and now has come to ubuntu [15:42] i also dunno if /var/log/syslog will show the prob but will try help her [16:39] * superfly pokes Kilos [16:40] yip superfly [16:40] My day is finally over (almost) [16:41] On the train on the way home. [16:41] yay [16:41] missed you [16:41] tara is using 12.10 superfly [16:42] i saw so [16:43] so there is progress [17:14] :-/ freakin sad about the fire disaster in St. Francis baai [17:15] oh hi oom Kilos [17:23] Evening all [17:25] lo nuvolari mazal [17:25] inetpro, [17:25] Kilos: eh [17:25] het jy gehooer nuvolari tara op 12.10 [17:25] you spying on me? [17:25] gehoor [17:25] why [17:25] * inetpro just stepped into the room [17:25] lol [17:26] good evenng [17:27] Kilos: is it not perhaps a dusty cpu? [17:27] had a long day doing a advanced 12.10 install onna 1TB drive with separate / /boot /home /storage and /spare [17:27] she has had it in to the pc shop 4 times [17:28] now there isnt a trace of windows left there [17:28] Kilos: hi nee ek't nie gehoor nie oom [17:28] lol [17:28] so sy is sonder venstertjies? [17:28] What's wrong with the pc Kilos ? [17:29] howdy Cantide [17:29] hey nuvolari, mazal, Kilos '-' [17:29] and others >_> [17:29] Hi Cantide [17:29] it hung when streaming from youtube [17:29] but her windows went blue screen daily [17:29] Kilos: it's probably overheating, but that's just a guess [17:32] Kilos: if her machine uses ACPI she can check the temperature values with [17:32] cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature [17:32] hmm... [17:35] wow power cut or whatever killed pc even though ups is working [17:35] what i missed\ [17:38] oh ya [17:42] she also calls it winsucks now and used to fight me for running her os down [17:42] hehe [17:48] ooooo thunder and lightning [17:49] Plak toe die ruite !!!!!!! [17:49] :) [17:50] are there cpu thermal monitors available in 12.10? [17:50] i googled but dont see inna repo stuff [17:50] http://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/monitor-hardware-temperature-in-ubuntu.html [17:51] dont want tara to get stuff that not healthy for her pc [17:51] oh ya mazal tara is my unmet daughter [17:52] Temp monitors is something I always found lacking in linux [17:52] Usually takes a lot of work to get it working [17:53] oh my [17:53] she be a girl just left windows today [17:53] but learning to use the terminal quick [17:54] I got a lot of flack from friends when I try and get them away from windoze hehehe [17:55] lol she gave me gears to start with but now she agrees [17:55] she said to me lets kill winsucks [17:56] i got her using apt-get and aptitude and synaptic [17:56] Why should one use aptitude ? [17:56] i just dunno if there are apps that will improve the streaming thing [17:56] like from youtube [17:57] because aptitude is better than apt-get [17:57] hi Gez_ [17:57] I've never used it [17:57] shoud look at it [17:57] well ask the guys [17:57] its more user friendly [17:57] and other advantages [17:58] but no cow stuff [17:58] super cow powers [17:58] hi Kilos [17:58] Looks complicated [17:58] welcome to ubuntu-za Gez_ [17:58] I'm from Argentina, I'm just taking a look :) [17:59] I have a friend here who's southafrican [17:59] and I introduced him to Ubuntu [17:59] no man mazal you just use aptitude in place of apt-get [17:59] works good [17:59] he's going back to South Africa and he wanted to know if there was a local community there [17:59] ubuntu community [17:59] ? [17:59] many [18:00] each province [18:00] Is there a listing of the cities with stablished communities? [18:00] I can't even get the menus activated lol [18:00] what menus mazal [18:00] (I can't remember the name of the city he'll be living in) [18:00] At the top of aptitude [18:00] if he can get to this channel Gez_ he will meet the guys [18:01] Cool. Thank you Kilos. [18:01] aptitude is command line in place of apt-get [18:01] yw Gez_ [18:01] where are you [18:02] Oh , I just ran sudo aptitude [18:02] oh mazal sudo apt-get install aptitude [18:02] is it installed [18:02] Gez_, I have an Argentinian friend here in South Africa, haha :) [18:02] but he doesn't use Ubuntu :'( [18:02] you have to install it dont come as default anymore [18:02] * Cantide sends him back to Argentina [18:03] Those stupid argies :p [18:03] :p [18:03] so what community is he looking for Gez_ [18:03] I bet he has a pirate copy of Windows whatever [18:03] good game of rugby against Wales btw '-' [18:03] probably :-S [18:03] Kilos: I can't remember the name of the city, but I'm already asking them to join this channel and meet some people [18:04] good [18:04] I wont' do everything for him :) [18:04] lol [18:04] Yes it's installed Kilos [18:04] oh then just use it in place of apt-get [18:04] If I just run sudo aptitude it opens , but very complicated looking [18:04] Ok, gtg. Thank you guys for the kind welcome and your help. I'll send you your southafrican guy back :) [18:05] you can do sudo aptitude reinstall package [18:05] See you! [18:05] cheers Gez_ [18:05] haha [18:05] bye~ [18:05] Hmm , what can I install to test it...... [18:05] where apt_get uses install package --reinstall [18:05] So all the commads are the same as apt-get ? [18:06] sudo aptitude reinstall xchat [18:06] ya [18:06] only better [18:06] apt-get needs a bit more to reinstall [18:07] naand tannie magtie [18:07] Ok , will try and use it [18:07] Hallo Kilos & Everyone [18:07] Hello magtie [18:08] hi mazal [18:09] hi smile4ever [18:09] Evening smile4ever [18:10] hi :D [18:10] * smile4ever worked hard :( [18:11] This was a rough Monday at my side as well [18:12] too much homework :( [18:12] (only one task, but hours work :p ) [18:12] oi [18:13] yay inetpro she tried everything nthat made winsucks freeze but now all together and didnt freeze [18:14] so it had allowed something into bios [18:14] battery out cured it [18:14] ai die engelse is slim [18:14] lol [18:15] hehe [18:15] * mazal gonna crash [18:15] Sleep well everyone [18:15] night mazal sleep tight [18:15] Enjoy the rest of your evening [18:15] God bless [18:16] ty sir you too [18:16] He always blesses me [18:16] anyone tried out firefox os yet? :p [18:16] nope [18:16] i dont even use firefox browser [18:18] hi timkeller [18:18] Hi Kilos [18:18] welcome to ubuntu-za [18:18] Thank you kindly [18:18] never saeen you here before [18:18] seen either [18:18] evening all [18:19] Heh, not sure I've ever joined #ubuntu-za [18:19] hi magespawn [18:19] But #ubuntu is just way to high volume [18:19] too, even [18:19] hey Kilos [18:19] are you using ubuntu timkeller [18:19] Kilos: that's a shame :p [18:20] i'll try it out in a minute :) [18:20] Kilos: oh yes. Switched to ubuntu with 5.04. [18:20] if its not linux its no good smile4ever [18:20] it IS linux, Kilos :p [18:20] wow timkeller that way back [18:20] Kilos: Hipster hey? [18:21] firefox?is that why all the updates [18:21] smile4ever: i want to try chrome os [18:21] timkeller, why you took so long to get here [18:22] mgetara is on 12.10 [18:22] grrr [18:22] magespawn, too [18:22] im happy now both my brats use ubuntu [18:23] on some machines, but the main ones are 12.04 [18:23] My bad Kilos :) [18:23] lol ya [18:23] magespawn: have you seen it on omgubuntu? :) [18:23] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-run-chromeos-in-ubuntu [18:24] nuvolari, where you went [18:24] we get new peeps and the ballie gotta welcome them [18:24] after a day of killing winsucks [18:25] magespawn: crash Firefox OS, but it's playing sound / video :D [18:26] a lot of warnings in console :p [18:27] probable just hardware errors [18:28] not only that :p [18:28] lol, sound fails :p [18:28] good evening [18:28] hi smile4ever [18:28] (firefox is too slow, probably) [18:28] :p [18:28] Maaz: coffee on [18:28] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [18:28] Maaz: and rusks [18:28] cvn: *blink* [18:28] magespawn: it's eating RAM :o [18:28] Maaz: or stroopwafel, one or the other [18:28] cvn: Huh? [18:29] 1,4 gigabyte for a bit of video :p [18:29] wow [18:29] ;) [18:29] just like firefox browser [18:30] yeah :( [18:30] sorry i missed half the conversation, what's up? [18:30] but firefox os looks good :D [18:30] cvn: i'm trying out firefox os ;) [18:30] hi cvn [18:30] that you charl? [18:31]