[00:00] <T|ASK> bkc_: thanks.
[00:00] <Karlo_> I have an older machine running Red Hat 9.0 (Shrike).
[00:01] <elbeto> I use an aspire on 756, i am running xubuntu 12.10.  I cannot adjust the monitor brightness, is there anything that i can install?
[00:01] <Karlo_> I also have a laptop which I wouldn't mind installing Ubuntu on.  Maybe that would actually make things easier, if I did that first.
[00:01] <LuizAngioletti> Hello. I've have U12.04 installed in two different machines, a netbook and a desktop PC. When using the netbook, right-clicking, I get the option of creating a launcher. In the desktop setup, I don't. Why does that happen?
[00:02] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: If you have a spare USB drive which you don't completely wiping, you can fairly easily dd the Ubuntu iso to the drive to make it bootable.
[00:02] <ascii> bkc_: nomodeset just gives me an unresponsive prompt
[00:02] <Hi-Teck> 3
[00:02] <bkc_> ascii: well... the kernel/module-part of #lubuntu is no different than that of #ubuntu so it should affect both. I'd go with the last comment, try it again until it works :)
[00:03] <Karlo_> The currently-broken system doesn't offer an option to boot from the USB drive.
[00:03] <zeroth> ....
[00:03] <ascii> bkc_: that they say it works 1 in 7 times? :D
[00:03] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: Well that makes things more interesting :)
[00:03] <bkc_> ascii: nomodeset is for messed up resolutions, refresh-rates, buggy drivers, etc. ... I answered too quickly :)
[00:03] <bkc_> ascii: yes :)
[00:04] <Karlo_> Yeah, my life has been interesting, in the sense of the Chinese curse.
[00:04] <ascii> bkc_: I don't understand how can this be so non-deterministic
[00:06] <Denommus> I'm having problems to log into Steam for Windows on my Ubuntu
[00:06] <Denommus> already tried to remove ClientRegistry.blob, but still doesn't work
[00:07] <LuizAngioletti> Denommus: I might be wrong, but it doesn't run on Ubuntu, unless you're using Wine.
[00:08] <thufir_> ikonia: thanks, I htink that worked.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: Well, if you want to throw some interestingness of your own into the mix, you should be able to mount the iso file, chroot into it, and run grub-install (for grub2) from there. At which point you can configure grub to boot from an iso stored on a USB drive, from which you can install Ubuntu.
[00:08] <thufir_> how do I change with chmod a directory to permissions of:  drwxr-xr-x  ?
[00:08] <Denommus> LuizAngioletti: I'm using wine. The problem is not about *running*, but *log in*
[00:09] <jrib> !permissions > thufir_
[00:09] <brady> i have instructions im following asking me to edit   src/Makefile  , when i look in  home and the file system, i cant find /etc/
[00:09] <bkc_> ascii: It probably has something to do with loading drivers/whatnot in parallel (it usually works, but in some cases...)
[00:09] <Kevin82> ikonia: DHCP was turned off for this computer on my router, so I'm assuming my wireless card was taking the static IP and the eth0 couldn't get one issued, but I enabled dhcp on this computer again and still can't connect eth0
[00:09] <Denommus> LuizAngioletti: I'm using it without problems on my Arch machine (not that I think it's some problem with the distro, since I ran it pretty well until two weeks ago, when I installed the most recent wine)
[00:09] <brady> where is this folder usually located?
[00:09] <Kevin82> ikonia: I checked the network manager, the ethernet connection is set to dhcp too
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: How much RAM does this machine have? Can you take this machine's hard drive out and put it into another machine?
[00:09] <zykotick9> Denommus: you might want to try the #winehq channel
[00:10] <DarKMode> brady try ls /
[00:12] <thufir_> jrib: thanks,
[00:12] <brady> i see srv, but no src
[00:13] <zykotick9> brady: the src/ folder should probably be where you extracted the archive to.
[00:14] <JonZEn> ne1 ever heard of ubuntu causing a router to lose connection with it
[00:15] <JonZEn> this is absurf  i have a comcast tech telling me it is not their equip that its ubuntu
[00:15] <bulletrulz> HEY
[00:15] <JonZEn> howdy
[00:15] <Guest48716> complain to his higher management :D
[00:15] <Kevin82> JonZEn: is this a wireless connection ?
[00:16] <alansaul> Where would numpy be installed with aptitude install python-numpy is there anyway for me to check easily?
[00:16] <JonZEn> both
[00:16] <bulletrulz> does anyone know how to have docky in mate
[00:16] <JonZEn> wired and wirtelles  connects 10 min then loses it
[00:16] <JonZEn> 2 dif computwers
[00:16] <Denommus> zykotick9: good idea, thank you
[00:16] <JonZEn> sorry  kinda mad
[00:17] <zykotick9> alansaul: don't use aptitude on modern ubuntus... see "/msg ubottu aptitude" for the details.
[00:17] <alansaul> Oh rly?! Ive been a bad boy then...
[00:17] <brady> so have i..
[00:17] <alansaul> For quite some time
[00:17] <brady> i just used aptitude just a second ago..
[00:17] <brady> yes.. for months now.
[00:17] <Guest48716> bulletrulz: sudo apt-get install docky
[00:18] <kostkon> alansaul, it may mess up your system, if it is 64bit
[00:18] <kostkon> alansaul, i mean 64bit ubuntu*
[00:18] <alansaul> Aptitude may?
[00:18] <alansaul> Should I just be using apt-get then?
[00:19] <keith_> Is it possible to connect to an Exchange 2010 server using linux?
[00:19] <kostkon> alansaul, yes. only apt-get or dpkg. avoid using aptitude at all costs
[00:20] <JonZEn> thats what i thought  comcast tech an idiot
[00:21] <DarKMode> keith_ yes it possible
[00:21] <keith_> DarKMode: Using Evolution with the mapi plugin?
[00:21] <zamutnii> in lightdm, choosing window manager doesn't work. When I click on the window manager I want to choose from the list of WMs. the menu doesn't close and doesn't get selected. When I close the menu, it stays the way it was. I have to stop lightdm and start gdm, in order to make a choice
[00:21] <alansaul> kostkon: Bummer
[00:21] <alansaul> kostkon: Okay I'll try change my habits
[00:22] <alansaul> kostkon: But aptitude was so nice :(
[00:22] <LuizAngioletti> Hello. I've U12.04 installed in two different machines, a netbook and a desktop PC. When using the netbook, right-clicking, I get the option of creating a launcher. In the desktop setup, I don't. Why does that happen?
[00:22] <kostkon> alansaul, forget about it. It's over :P
[00:22] <keith_> Wait is there a conversation going on indicating that we shouldn't use aptitude?!
[00:22] <alansaul> kostkon: *sob*
[00:22] <sidd_mak> d
[00:22] <sidd_mak> unable to use internet on firefox in centos 6.2 hosted on vmware workstation
[00:23] <brady> well, although i should have installed 64, im on 32 bit as of now, ive used aptitude in instances in which i couldn't get sudo apt-get to work, or instructions that specifically called for aptitude
[00:24] <DarKMode> keith_ check this website https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/370590:connect-evolution-to-an-exchange-server
[00:24] <jaskies> hey guy is there a good site to get eye candy for ubuntu 21.10 with instrctions im a noob
[00:24] <unclezipper> Hey, is there anyone here that can help me out? I'm having a small issue with OpenSSH.
[00:25] <DarKMode> unclezipper come on just ask
[00:25] <zamutnii> in lightdm, choosing window manager doesn't work. When I click on the window manager I want to choose from the list of WMs. the menu doesn't close and doesn't get selected.
[00:25] <jaskies> ?
[00:26] <ascii> bkc_: Well, it finally got past it, but I'm not sure what made it because I made several changes altogether: I plugged in the battery, noapic and nolapic
[00:26] <unclezipper> DarKMode: Ok, well I've researched the problem for several hours and come up with nothing. I'm running Ubuntu Server and I've been trying to use password authentication instead of keys
[00:27] <unclezipper> I've edited sshd_config in several places, but I still get an error message(and no password prompt) when I try to connect.
[00:28] <DarKMode> unclezipper what happen then . the system just let you in or what ?
[00:28] <Chaterz> ..........c u
[00:28] <unclezipper> I don't know what the issue is exactly. I just upgraded servers, and on my old one I was running Linux Mint 11. OpenSSH was configured to use password authentication out of the box, and now I simply can't get it to work
[00:28] <unclezipper> Let me c+p the message I get.
[00:28] <DarKMode> ok
[00:29] <unclezipper> ~ $ ssh dustin@192.168.0.102
[00:29] <unclezipper> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[00:29] <unclezipper> @    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @
[00:29] <unclezipper> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[00:29] <unclezipper> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
[00:29] <FloodBot1> unclezipper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <unclezipper> Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
[00:30] <DarKMode> hehe
[00:30] <unclezipper> Well I suppose it's obvious that I'm new here :P
[00:31] <DarKMode> unclezipper this is normal after reinstalation
[00:31] <unclezipper> How should I fix it? I've already restarted the SSH server
[00:31] <DarKMode> unclezipper try typing
[00:32] <DarKMode> unclezipper cd .ssh
[00:32] <DarKMode> in you local machine
[00:33] <unclezipper> I see a file called known_hosts
[00:33] <DarKMode> unclezipper then echo "" > known_hosts
[00:33] <unclezipper> Are you a wizard
[00:33] <DarKMode> why ?
[00:34] <unclezipper> It worked, thank you very much. I've spent the better part of my day beating my head into the wall over this
[00:34] <DarKMode> hehehe
[00:34] <DarKMode> you welcome
[00:34] <Meris> unclezipper, yes, he is, he only uses DarKMode, a program execution code even less accessible than Real Mode.
[00:34] <Meris> ;-)
[00:35] <unclezipper> Sounds intimidating
[00:35] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how i can remove my ssh keys that are registered with the os?
[00:35]  * Meris puts on a clown's hat and dodges thrown tomatoes.
[00:36] <DarKMode> bonhoeffer cd .ssh;echo "" > known_hosts
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[00:37] <bonhoeffer> DarKMode, not nice
[00:37] <unclezipper> That command must be the meaning of life, or close to it.
[00:38] <Meris> unclezipper, not, that would be 42
[00:38] <Meris> not => no
[00:38] <Meris> besides, it's the meaning of Liff.
[00:39] <unclezipper> Well, that was just some computer's idea of it :P
[00:40] <bkc_> ascii: My best guess would be nolacpi, but it could also be the battery as some drivers don't like that :)
[00:46] <ghostconn> im downloading linux mint 14 to install tonight and test it out... is it possible to run compiz effects with cinnamon?
[00:47] <bkc_> !mint | ghostconn
[00:49] <killfill> ive put my PS1 at the end of /etc/profile
[00:49] <DarKMode> !networking | ad-hoc
[00:49] <killfill> when i login, i dont see it getting setup.. should /etc/profile be execited on-login?
[00:49] <mike18> how can I determine what command a main menu option runs? I want to add something to the auto-start list, and am not sure what command it runs to start the application
[00:49] <DarKMode> !ubuntu | ad-hoc
[00:50] <DarKMode> !ad-hoc
[00:52] <acuozzo> Hi, does anyone here use Ubuntu with a newer HP laptop?
[00:52] <acuozzo> (e.g., DV7)
[00:52] <merpnderp> Why is the 32 bit version of Ubuntu recommended over the 64 bit version?
[00:53] <acuozzo> Also, does anyone know how to restart alsa without restarting the computer?
[00:53] <acuozzo> I'm running off of a live cd and I'd like to mess with my alsa settings, but rebooting resets them.
[00:53] <bkc_> merpnderp: memory-usage mostly... otherwise it's retarded :)
[00:54] <merpnderp> bkc_: I've always ran 64 bit desktops and never seemed to have a problem, but I've never ran Ubuntu before.
[00:54] <k1l> merpnderp: the 32will run on every hardware. so there is less chance of failure because the hardware couldnt do 64bit
[00:54] <z01d> merp its the most compatibel bersion
[00:54] <merpnderp> k1|: That makes sense.
[00:55] <k1l> dont worry. im using 64bit since "some time" and that is no problem at all
[00:55] <bkc_> 32bit kernel (at least w/o PAE-support) will only use 4B/memory-pointer while 64bit will use 8B/pointer... that's about it...
[00:56] <killfill> when i create a new user, how does .bashrc be created?.. copied from what file?
[00:56] <jrib> killfill: /etc/skel/.bashrc
[00:56] <killfill> aah
[00:56] <bkc_> on the other hand, 32bit (w/o PAE) can only handle 1GB / process and a total of ~3GB, while 64bit can handle shitloads or RAM :D
[00:57] <Magiobiwan> Yeah. 64-bit has a theoretical limit of
[00:57] <Magiobiwan> I think it's like, 1000 TB or something of RAM
[00:57] <z01d> is there a default.bashrc in rootdir
[00:57] <Magiobiwan> Now, no computer these days could have 1000 TB of RAM
[00:57] <k1l> bkc_: yep. if your hardware can take 64bit there is no need for 32bit, since flash is a mess on both variants :)
[00:58] <Megelli> Hello?
[00:58] <killfill> jrib: too bad PS1 is override in .bashrc.. :P.. i wish i could just defined it globally (like in /etc/profile) and change defaults PS1's.. :P
[00:58] <bkc_> Megelli: Herro :)
[00:58] <Megelli> wew i found life here
[00:59] <Megelli> been chking for hours at no avail
[00:59] <Megelli> I have a prob with xubuntu
[00:59] <jrib> killfill: why?
[01:00] <DarKMode> Megelli go on
[01:00] <Megelli> Itried to run xubuntu off a usb stick in live mode and all I get is it starts with a splash screen I think they call it then it
[01:00] <silouck> jrib: its the best option
[01:00] <Megelli> blacks out with this>
[01:00] <killfill> jrib: in my case, all users are part of a system i control.. wish to just make them all equal..
[01:01] <Megelli> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$
[01:01] <silouck> Megelli: blacks?
[01:01] <jrib> killfill: well you can just give them a different default .bashrc but in the end a prompt is a very personal thing :P
[01:01] <DarKMode> Megelli i think it is the boot loader
[01:01] <DarKMode> Megelli it grub
[01:01] <Megelli> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$screen is black with this witing on it ........
[01:02] <Megelli> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$
[01:02] <killfill> yah i know.. :P  i.e. centos does take PS1 from /etc/profile by default.. :P
[01:02] <thufir_> is there a CLI to list users and groups?
[01:02] <killfill> hoped it was unix-standart
[01:02] <killfill> :P
[01:02] <Megelli> Ive installed ubuntu 100 times and other os's but never came accross this
[01:02] <DarKMode> Megelli it looks like this one http://alexsleat.co.uk/2010/11/27/how-to-fix-unknown-keyword-in-configuration-file-ubuntu-usb-boot/
[01:02] <escott> thufir_, cat /etc/passwd /etc/groups
[01:02] <Gyro54> Does Unity have problems with Libre Calc or does Libre Calc have problems with Unity?
[01:02] <Megelli> ok Ill go there
[01:02] <Megelli> thanks
[01:03] <thufir_> escott: thanks.
[01:03] <escott> Megelli, hit the up arrow
[01:03] <Megelli> ok
[01:03] <Megelli> trying now
[01:04] <Megelli> be a minute its rebooting
[01:06] <Megelli> nope...hit the up arrow and does nothing
[01:06] <Megelli> it sais welcome to xubuntu 12.10 on this black screen and below that it sais
[01:07] <Megelli> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$
[01:07] <Megelli> with the curser line flashing on n off
[01:07] <escott> Megelli, something is going wrong you are being dumped to the rescue prompt or the busybox terminal
[01:07] <Megelli> its like it wants a command
[01:07] <escott> Megelli, run "mount" see what it says
[01:07] <Megelli> ok
[01:08] <Megelli> i just type mount and then enter?
[01:08] <iatrogene> hi
[01:08] <escott> Megelli, yes
[01:08] <Megelli> a bunch more writing came up and then its back to
[01:08] <Megelli> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$
[01:08] <Megelli> with flashing curser
[01:09] <Daekdroom> How do I set XChat to use Unicode?
[01:09] <blueleaf> l
[01:09] <escott> Megelli, those "bunch more things" would be helpful to know
[01:09] <kostkon> Daekdroom, XChat → Network List, then select the server you want and press Edit.
[01:10] <Megelli> wew I cant even read it never mind type it
[01:10] <Megelli> my word
[01:10] <bkc_> kostkon, Daekdroom: there's actually a global setting for it...
[01:10] <bkc_> give me a sec
[01:11] <Megelli> all I was trying to do was run it live with usb
[01:11] <Daekdroom> bkc_, well, it is set to IRC (Latin/Unicode Hybrid). Shouldn't that display Unicode characters correctly?
[01:11] <bkc_> Daekdroom: no
[01:11] <newbchessplayer-> Hello. I would just like to know how important it is to choose a strong master password for keepassx. Should one make it at least 256 bits?
[01:11] <bkc_> Daekdroom: set it to UTF-8 (not the hybrid :) )
[01:11] <Megelli> Ubuntu 12.04 is actually on the hard drive but wanted to try xubuntu to see if speed was better
[01:12] <bkc_> newbchessplayer-: 256bit is short according to me... but then again, I'm paranoid :P
[01:12] <escott> newbchessplayer-, its your master password so probably pretty important
[01:13] <k1l> Daekdroom: that would display the characters fine for you. but not for the other users. utf-8 is the standard so far.
[01:15] <louisBsAs> hey all
[01:15] <louisBsAs> question:  is there anything special I have to do to install ubuntu on an ssd drive?
[01:15] <lolcat> louisBsAs: No
[01:16] <Megelli> escott, I type help and it give a crap load of commands
[01:16] <newbchessplayer-> I'm using keepassx and was just wondering if it very important to use a very long and complicated master password?
[01:16] <louisBsAs> strange problem - same machine - on SATA all good, boot over to SSD drive and it can't find the wired NIC card
[01:17] <louisBsAs> the only difference is where it's booting from
[01:17] <Meris> newbchessplayer-, well, you should be able to remember it, somehow, or face the agony of having all you other passwords you stored in that cache encrypted beyond redemption.
[01:17] <escott> Megelli, its a bit unclear what is happening when you boot
[01:17] <escott> Megelli, maybe i jumped in late but what do you see
[01:18] <Megelli> it sais
[01:18] <Megelli> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$
[01:18] <escott> newbchessplayer-, it depends on who your adversary is... one approach that gets recommended is to pick a unique phrase
[01:18] <Megelli> and the curser is flashing after the $
[01:18] <Megelli> all on a black screen
[01:19] <escott> newbchessplayer-, "ilovestartrekandmydadisahistorian"
[01:19] <Megelli> if i type help  and enter it brings up all these commands
[01:20] <escott> Megelli, i know what it says... i dont know why you got to that point
[01:21] <Megelli> every time i try to boot from usb stick the blue splash screen comes up like it is loading then i goes to a black screen with what I typed earlier
[01:22] <Zimm3r> I keep trying to install vbam-gtk (because vba just freezes the computer when it is in full screen) so I added the playdeb url source and ran sudo apt-get install vbam-gtk and I get this error " vbam-gtk : Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.6) but 4.5.2-8ubuntu4 is to be installed
[01:22] <Zimm3r> "
[01:23] <escott> Megelli, odd that there is no error message. try "mount | less" so you can scroll up and down with the arrows and exit with "q"
[01:23] <Zimm3r> anyway to update libstdc++6 to a higher version
[01:23] <Megelli> ok
[01:24] <Megelli> thats a foreward slash escott?
[01:25] <escott> Megelli, im mostly interested if anything /dev/sda shows up or if there is a "rootfs" anywhere in that
[01:25] <escott> Megelli, no its a pipe SHIFT+\ on my keyboard. above the enter
[01:25] <Megelli> ok lol
[01:26] <Megelli> command not found
[01:27] <escott> Megelli, try "mount | more" (although I think that answered my question)
[01:27] <Megelli> ok
[01:28] <Megelli> oh wow now it sais END and it wont let me type now
[01:29] <escott> Megelli, just press "q" but that answered my question. you are in busybox
[01:29] <Megelli> I think Ill just toss xubuntu....doesnt seem ready enough yet
[01:29] <Megelli> oh whats busy box....typing q now
[01:30] <escott> Megelli, the issue is that your bios is not doing the USB boot correctly. you might try a CD
[01:30] <Megelli> its a little netbook ...no cd
[01:30] <Megelli> Ive got ubuntu and joli OS on it no problem
[01:31] <Megelli> this pc has Ubuntu and no problem
[01:31] <Megelli> I had mint on it yesterday too
[01:32] <Megelli> I formated the stick in fat like i always do
[01:32] <escott> Megelli, something is wrong with your usb stick then
[01:33] <iatrogene> so, ever since upgrading to 12.10, my audio doesnt work right... if i am listening to music and open a 2nd app that uses audio, even if the audio isnt active (like a paused flash player),
[01:33] <iatrogene> the audio on the primary app degrades noticably
[01:33] <iatrogene> especially noticable with flash and VLC
[01:33] <escott> iatrogene, degrades meaning?
[01:34] <iatrogene> well
[01:34] <iatrogene> two thing are happening
[01:34] <iatrogene> if i try to use VLC while ive got chrome with flash players open, VLC's audio gets staticy
[01:34] <iatrogene> however
[01:34] <iatrogene> if i am playing music using QMMP, and start reloading (or opening) web pages in chrome, the audio stops and starts
[01:34] <iatrogene> as of 12.04 i did not notice these phenomenon
[01:35] <iatrogene> 3.2 ghz socket 775 p4, single core, 2 GB
[01:35] <iatrogene> via audio onboard
[01:35] <escott> iatrogene, are you using pulseaudio?
[01:35] <Rakko> Where oh where does Ubuntu get the modifier map shown by Xmodmap? I'm trying to use my own .Xmodmap file, but there are a bunch of modifiers already that I didn't set. And I'm getting an X BadValue error when I call xmodmap on my own file. See https://gist.github.com/4057016
[01:35] <iatrogene> escott yep
[01:36] <Megelli> escott, ok Ill make another one......thank you for helping we tried
[01:36]  * NightmareNightMo 
[01:36]  * NightmareNightMo -ALL
[01:36]  * NightmareNightMo 
[01:36] <FloodBot1> NightmareNightMo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <escott> iatrogene, the staticy bit is weird. maybe its using a hardware mixer that is rather poor. as for the stops and starts thats just starvation of the stream. you could try playing around with schedulers. the problem is EVERYONE has multi-core systems these days and the schedulers are designed with that in mind.
[01:37] <iatrogene> escott, understood, but its strange it all worked fine under 12.04
[01:38] <iatrogene> and yes i thought about that too, with the staticy bit. the default audio output device in vlc is pulseaudio
[01:38] <escott> iatrogene, well you do get a new kernel, and that kernel will have various differences. you might try selecting and booting your old kernel and see how that works
[01:39] <iatrogene> however changing it to ALSA doesnt produce any noticiable change
[01:39] <iatrogene> yeah, good point
[01:39] <iatrogene> in that case, brb =)
[01:40] <phax> Hi, is it possible to run socat in a loop so it keeps forwarding data without forking a new process on each pkt?
[01:48] <grendal_prime> remember when you could adjust the transparentcy of any window with your scroller on your mouse...and, a modifyer key?
[01:52] <iatrogene> ok
[01:52] <iatrogene> escott: thank you for the advice
[01:52] <escott> iatrogene, is that working?
[01:52] <iatrogene> the next older kernel was 3.2.0 and also PAE
[01:52] <iatrogene> and that seems to solve the problem of the audio starting and stopping while loading pages in chrome
[01:53] <iatrogene> but i notice the static problem appears to be limited to VLC
[01:53] <iatrogene> VLC reports The audio device "sysdefault:CARD=VT82xx" could not be used:
[01:53] <iatrogene> Device or resource busy.and then plays anyway
[01:53] <iatrogene> er
[01:53] <iatrogene> *and then it plays anyway.
[01:53] <iatrogene> but its staticy
[01:54] <iatrogene> the main audio (in this case qmmp)
[01:54] <iatrogene> has been playingh uninterrupted without any noticable degradation of quality
[01:55] <escott> iatrogene, the firefox thing is scheduler related.
[01:55] <baldfat> WOW Ubuntu = Frustrating for me as a Linux user for 7 years. Why in the world does FSTAB noit take Samba shares with cifs????
[01:55] <escott> iatrogene, im not sure what scheduler changes went into the kernel in 3.5 but you can examine things in /sys.
[01:55] <escott> baldfat, it does
[01:56] <iatrogene> yeah, chrome, but understood
[01:56] <baldfat> it doesn't and I can show you hundread blog entries that show 12.04 FSTAB worked then failing cifs
[01:56] <iatrogene> comparing /sys for subtle differences seems like a lot of work =)
[01:56] <iatrogene> i know linux well, but not that well
[01:56] <iatrogene> is there a 3.5.0 PAE kernel?
[01:57] <baldfat> escott: FSTAB and cifs isn't working straight out of the gate and the .Xresources-hostname is RETARDED SOrry a little raging going on my side but frustrating :)
[01:57] <escott> baldfat, i can show you hundreds of articles on foxnews.com about how Romney is going to crush Obama... so clearly
[01:57] <baldfat> escott: http://www.linuxine.com/story/1210-cifs-shares-not-mounting-after-modifying-etcfstab
[01:57] <escott> baldfat, well take a break, but CIFS entries are certainly supported in /etc/fstab
[01:58] <escott> baldfat, have you modprobed CIFS?
[01:58] <baldfat> escott: so my home server and samba shares that are all working on my arch laptop and my wife's windows 7 and my debian box and then ubuntu is the only fail
[01:58] <baldfat> escott: thanks trying
[01:58] <Guest31736> exit
[01:58] <baldfat> I have it installed
[02:00] <baldfat> escott: yup it is in modeprobe
[02:00] <escott> baldfat, without seeing what your mount command is....
[02:01] <baldfat> its basic //192.168.1.124/Pictures /home/marc/Pictures cifs username=guest                 0       0
[02:01] <seeqwell> http://pastebin.com/Fu6zQ3nd What's going on with my machine please?
[02:02] <escott> baldfat, and have you tried "sudo mount -t cifs -o username=guest //192.168.1.124/Pictures /home/marc/Pictures"
[02:02] <RiXtEr> baldfat, does smbclient //192.168.1.124/Pictures -Uguest work?
[02:02] <escott> seeqwell, you skipped the best part... what happened just before 40seconds in the boot
[02:02] <escott> seeqwell, actually nevermind
[02:03] <escott> seeqwell, i dont see a problem
[02:03] <baldfat> escott: Well now I have a permision denied error? looking it up
[02:03] <seeqwell> it says that every time my hard drive shuts off and spins real high - monitor and hard drive shuts off escott
[02:04] <escott> seeqwell, and this happens 77 seconds after you turn on the computer?
[02:04] <willdabeast> I am looking for my menu.lst file in /boot/grub/ but I can't find it, I use grub 2, is there a different location for this file?
[02:04] <seeqwell> random escott
[02:05] <escott> willdabeast, there is no menu.lst in grub2 its grub.cfg for grub2
[02:05] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | willdabeast
[02:05] <escott> seeqwell, so why did you show a dmesg that is from 77second after boot
[02:05] <willdabeast> escott ok thanks
[02:05] <seeqwell> oh was it?
[02:06] <willdabeast> where is the grub.cfg file then escott?
[02:06] <seeqwell> ok let me look deeper escott that was the last entry
[02:06] <escott> seeqwell, the numbers in the [###] are seconds after boot
[02:06] <Jordan_U> willdabeast: Note that to change settings you want to edit /etc/default/grub, as explained in the links from ubottu.
[02:06] <iatrogene> smbclient is weird
[02:06] <escott> seeqwell, so if you are having this after a few hours then its a red herring
[02:06] <iatrogene> im trying to use it to mount a share i already have mounted using mount -t cifs syntax
[02:07] <Karlo_> grub2 has been around since 9.10?  How the *hell* did I end up with grub 0.97 on my 10.04 system?  [Rhetorical]
[02:07] <willdabeast> jordan_u thanks :)
[02:07] <escott> iatrogene, its entirely possible that there is some change in syntax for cifs entries
[02:07] <Jordan_U> willdabeast: You're welcome :)
[02:07] <iatrogene> its giving all sorts of funny errors
[02:07] <seeqwell> random escott sometimes 20 min sometimes back to back, sometimes  hours later ill get more information
[02:07] <iatrogene> like trying to authenticate to the domain
[02:07] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: Did you upgrade from a pre 9.10 version of Ubuntu?
[02:08] <iatrogene> i didnt try sticking these mount statements in fstab, i was thinking about it tho
[02:08] <escott> seeqwell, so the thing you pasted is irrelevant because that is from 80 seconds after the boot not 20 minutes
[02:08] <Karlo_> I *thought* that it had never seen a version older than 10.04.  But I got it from someone else, and I might be mistaken about the history.
[02:09] <seeqwell> http://pastebin.com/15JeJYwS here is more info escott
[02:09] <seeqwell> that's the whole kern.log escott
[02:09] <iatrogene> mount.cifs //xxxxxxx/Downloads-e /mnt/E -o user="xxxxxxx",pass="xxxxxxx"
[02:09] <Snowie> howdy all. anyone here a minecrafter on ubuntu?
[02:09] <iatrogene> note remote cifs share name is funny and has a - in it
[02:09] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: The other common reason is that someone reads a really old guide, tries to run "grub" (which is a command in grub legacy, but not grub2), thinks that the problem is that grub isn't installed and so they run "sudo apt-get install grub" (when they really should have just used a newer guide, and "grub-install").
[02:10] <iatrogene> that works fine and i have samba minimally configured
[02:10] <Snowie> I need to allocate more ram to the .jar, and im hoping to build it straight into the default unity launcher icon
[02:10] <Karlo_> I see.
[02:10] <baldfat> escott: thanks going to take a break frustrated :(
[02:10] <escott> seeqwell, how did you reboot. were you pressing the reboot button?
[02:11] <iatrogene> but i'm no longer certain if the "cifs" subsystem is the same as the samba system... thats a good question
[02:11] <seeqwell> yeah escott it left me no other choice
[02:11] <escott> iatrogene, they are not exactly, but they must share some stuff
[02:11] <escott> !reisub | seeqwell try this next time.. it might preserve some logs
[02:11] <seeqwell> monitor goes off and hard drive spins high and gets loud and I have to shut the tower down from the button.
[02:13] <seeqwell> That crash ate up my logs escott ?
[02:13] <iatrogene> ok ima try rebooting into 3.5.0 PAE lowlatency
[02:14] <iatrogene> brb
[02:14] <escott> seeqwell, when you powercycled the machine yes
[02:14] <Jordan_U> Karlo_: Are you still trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:16] <Karlo_> Yes
[02:16] <Karlo_> I took a break for food, etc, but back now.
[02:16] <Karlo_> So, back to my problem.  I have the cdrom image on the hard disk.  I can   mount -o ro,loop /root/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso /mnt/cdrom   and I'll have what I guess looks equivalent to a mounted CD.  Now I'm supposed to chroot?  I'm confused -- my understanding is that "chroot DIR CMD" sets the root directory to DIR, which should be set up as if it were a complete file system; what's in /mnt/cdrom doesn't seem to satisfy that.
[02:17] <Snowie> where can i find the terminal command that a unity launcher icon runs?
[02:17] <escott> Karlo_, why do you want to chroot into the cd?
[02:18] <escott> Karlo_, what are you trying to do here?
[02:19] <Karlo_> Ultimately, what I want to do is install 12.04.1 on this box.  I have no working network, no working CD.
[02:19] <escott> Karlo_, and how is chrooting into the CD supposed to help?
[02:20] <Gerowen> Is there a reason that there's no options to add users to particular groups using the GUI tools?
[02:20] <escott> Gerowen, because its an administrative task, and its distro specific what the groups are and what they do....
[02:20] <Snowie> is there a way to change the default memory allowed for a java app?
[02:20] <Karlo_> escott: I have no idea.  I've seen multiple suggestions saying that I might need to chroot at some point, and I'm questioning when and how and why.
[02:21] <Gerowen> escott: Just wanted to add myself to a group and noticed the user accounts tool has been dumbed down since earlier versions, was wondering if I'd missed it or something.
[02:21] <escott> Gerowen, maybe if the distros standardize on the groups that exist and their meanings you might see a gui, but at best the gui would end up being a glorified command line tool making it easier for people to screw things up with point and click
[02:21] <escott> Karlo_, so am i
[02:22] <seeqwell> I don't have a clue escott did you see anything.  log goes back to when 20:44 that's about when it happened.
[02:22] <Gerowen> escott: Yeah I remember when it did exist, it was basically just a list of all the groups and you ticked checkboxes.
[02:22] <escott> seeqwell, all i see in your logs is a segfault by QTdbus... and then your hard reboot.
 Karlo_: [...] you should be able to mount the iso file, chroot into it, and run grub-install (for grub2) from there. At which point you can configure grub to boot from an iso stored on a USB drive, from which you can install Ubuntu.
[02:22] <seeqwell> ohhh ok that's a clue
[02:23] <escott> seeqwell, the segfault is maybe when things started to go south but i dont know for sure
[02:23] <escott> Karlo_, ok... i get it. your system doesn't boot usb
[02:23] <OerHeks> Snowie, something like this : java -Xmx1024m -jar MyApp.jar
[02:23] <Karlo_> escott, correct
[02:24] <jchia> I think ubuntu has a bug. I'm using the latest version, and /usr/share/oneconf, a python script, has a shebang of "#!/usr/bin/python", yet the script assumes Python 2 syntax, which means if /usr/bin/python is actually python3, the script crashes. is this a known issue? I think the fix is for the script and others like it to specify python2 instead of just python.
[02:24] <escott> Karlo_, but if you already have a linux to be able to chroot into the cd... why cant you use the grub that is booting that system?
[02:24] <Snowie> OerHeks, yeah. i have found that. but how do i make that the default launcher command, rather than running a seperate shell script?
[02:24] <Karlo_> I was trying to follow someone's directions that assumed grub2, rather than the grub 0.97 that's currently installed here.
[02:25] <escott> Karlo_, Jordan_U is a pretty knowledgable guy so he must have had some reason to do this
[02:25] <escott> Karlo_, ok... not it all makes sense
[02:25] <escott> Karlo_, when you loop mount the cdrom what do you see inside it?
[02:26] <escott> Karlo_, and why not just install grub2 on your system... grub2 has been available for ubuntu for a LONG time
[02:27] <OerHeks> Snowie, there are tons of tutorials howto make a custom launchers
[02:27] <Karlo_> Output of ls [modulo possible typos]: README.diskdefines autorun.inf boot/ casper/ dists/ install/ isolinux/ md5sum.txt pics/ pool/ preseed/ ubuntu wubi.exe
[02:27] <escott> jchia, file it with oneconf... they either need to make themselves python3 compatible or fix their shebangs
[02:27] <jchia> escott: do you think maybe this is a prevalent problem among scripts in ubuntu in general
[02:27] <Snowie> OerHeks, ok. still trying to find one. thanks man
[02:28] <OerHeks> Snowie, terminal: gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new
[02:28] <escott> Karlo_, so there is another image in the casper folder... but this seems weird. why can't you just apt-get install grub2-common
[02:28] <nsaquatics> Hey, I have a small problem. Everyday at this time -1H my Ubuntu machine starts thrashing my hardrive and all but locks up. Where all can I find schedualed jobs, and how can I see what's accessing the HD?
[02:28] <Karlo_> I can't install *anything* the normal way, because I'm stuck in runlevel 1, no network -- and the system refuses to enter a higher runlevel because the apt-get database is hosed.
[02:28] <escott> nsaquatics, /etc/cronttab
[02:29] <nsaquatics> escott, thanks yeah nothing there...
[02:29] <nsaquatics> defiant09
[02:29] <nsaquatics> I mean it's being very defiant...
[02:30] <escott> Karlo_, well you would have to do a couple of loop mounts. one to unpack the cd and one to unpack the image inside the casper folder. and then chroot into that second loop mount
[02:30] <Snowie> which is the command to find out what file is actually running from a terminal command right?
[02:30] <rlmccormick> I just had a 12.04->12.10 upgrade fail and the update-manager is saying it can't do a partial upgrade.  What should I do? Can I force a full install of some kind?
[02:30] <escott> Snowie, top? ps?
[02:30] <Karlo_> escott: I see.  That would be the filesystem.squashfs file, I presume.
[02:31] <escott> Karlo_, yes. im wary of this approach though. you screw up the config of the grub you install and you won't be able to even boot to busybox
[02:31] <escott> Karlo_, i would try a netboot first
[02:31] <escott> Karlo_, if your bios supports it
[02:32] <Caribbean_b24> Hello
[02:32] <DarKMode> Snowie you mean what process is runing or what file is open ?
[02:32] <Caribbean_b24> People
[02:33] <Snowie> escott, i have seen top. not sure what to do with it though. got any reading.
[02:33] <Snowie> DarKMode, as in which file is run from $PATH, it's ok, that was correct
[02:34] <escott> Snowie, man top
[02:34] <Snowie> escott, ah, i see, thanks
[02:34] <Karlo_> escott, I don't think I can, but if you'd like to walk me through it, I'll see if I can confirm the failure.
[02:34] <seeqwell> escott, it usually happens when I run flash content
[02:34] <gustav__> Why can't I scroll horizontally? The thing is checked in the settings thing. o_o
[02:34] <seeqwell> wasn't running any at the time though escott `
[02:35] <escott> Karlo_, thats the thing... *I* wouldn't even attempt this... and I have 13 years of experience...
[02:35] <Karlo_> Well, if you can recommend what seems like the safest thing to try, I'll give it a shot.
[02:36] <escott> Karlo_, buy a CD drive. thats the safest thing to do
[02:36] <Gerowen> Just proof-read me please somebody, I've never used the command line tool to manage groups, and I need to add myself to the VirtualBox group so I can use certain features.  This command should add me to the vboxusers group without removing me from the other groups I am a  member of:
[02:36] <Gerowen> sudo usermod -G vboxusers -a marcus
[02:36] <escott> Gerowen, -a -a -a -a -a MUST HAVE -a
[02:36] <gustav__> Help!
[02:36] <Karlo_> I see -a in there already.
[02:37] <escott> Gerowen, i see you have it... but its in the wrong place
[02:37] <Gerowen> is my -a in the right place, or should I stick it beside the -G like -Ga ?
[02:37] <phil> -a
[02:37] <escott> Gerowen, -a -G group user
[02:37] <Karlo_> usermod -a -G vboxusers marcus
[02:37]  * Gerowen thanks everyone.
[02:37] <escott> Gerowen, yours might be ok actually.... but i wouldnt try it
[02:37] <nsaquatics> any other Ideas? Like how can I see what's actually accessing the HD/using allot of it's time?
[02:38] <escott> nsaquatics, iotop
[02:38] <Karlo_> escott, should I unmount and reboot, at this point?
[02:38] <escott> Karlo_, i dont know what you have done
[02:38] <nsaquatics> escott: thx... I'll try that.
[02:42] <jiffe1> is there somewhere that talks about the format of /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:43] <jiffe1> I'm looking to parse it
[02:44] <Karlo_> "man interfaces"
[02:46] <iatrogene> escott: it appears you might be right, 3.2.0-pae works great. all the 3.5.x versions, pulseaudio gets cut.
[02:47] <escott> iatrogene, then you have a audio driver regression and a scheduler regresion
[02:47] <iatrogene> loading pages in chrome, etc. (hadnt tried firefox)
[02:48] <iatrogene> well
[02:48] <iatrogene> is there a way to find out what changed in the scheduler between 3.2 and 3.5?
[02:49] <escott> iatrogene, changelogs and git bisect
[02:49] <iatrogene> you mentioned /sys, i assume you mean /proc/sys/kernel
[02:49] <iatrogene> oh
[02:49] <escott> iatrogene, no i mean /sys
[02:49] <iatrogene> oh
[02:49] <iatrogene> snap, i didnt notice that
[02:50] <iatrogene> well youve reached the limits of my linux knowledge: i know a wee bit about proc, but nothing about /sys
[02:51] <escott> iatrogene, /proc is for running processes, /sys is for kernel tunables. some stuff that is now in /sys used to be in /proc
[02:51] <iatrogene> nice
[02:51] <teratoma> what's the unity equivalent of tomboy?
[02:52] <ChogyDan> teratoma: isn't it tomboy?
[02:52] <iatrogene> so where do you think i could find scheduler info in /sys, any ideas
[02:53] <ChogyDan> iatrogene: are you talking about the schduler like CFS?
[02:53] <iatrogene> this machine has pci express video, its not that old really, last of the single core p4's, shouldnt be running into this kind of issue from a version upgrade
[02:53] <iatrogene> decent nvidia card
[02:53] <iatrogene> ive watched movies on it in the past
[02:53] <iatrogene> no prob
[02:54] <iatrogene> i need to check if that ability is affected becausae its not something i normally do with this machine
[02:54] <iatrogene> but i have in the past
[02:54] <iatrogene> on mounted samba shares
[02:55] <sgo11> !boot
[02:57] <escott> iatrogene, given that the hardware is probably at the end of its desktop usable lifespan i would just pin yourself to the older kernel
[02:58] <sgo11> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions   Internal Server Error???
[02:58] <iatrogene> escott still, its DDR2, i get better results out of a dual single core xeon DDR era machine i have upstairs
[03:00] <escott> sgo11, fine for me
[03:00] <tjmehta> So I am following these directions creating a ubuntu usb install on OSX, how should I initially format the drive (what format)?
[03:00] <dwarder> is there a "terminal service" for linux
[03:00] <dwarder> i.e. not vnc
[03:00] <tjmehta> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[03:00] <sgo11> escott, I got Internal Server Error.... what to do? cheers.
[03:00] <teratoma> How do i make more desktops in Unity?
[03:00] <escott> sgo11, try and refresh it... must be your mirror
[03:00] <Magiobiwan> dwarder, terminal service being?
[03:01] <escott> dwarder, X?
[03:01] <dwarder> Magiobiwan: microsoft terminal service
[03:01] <escott> dwarder, ssh?
[03:01] <dwarder> hmm
[03:01] <Magiobiwan> As in, Remote Desktop?
[03:01] <Magiobiwan> Why not just use VNC?
[03:01] <dwarder> escott: i tried it and it was rather laggy
[03:01] <dwarder> Magiobiwan: have you tried terminal service?
[03:02] <sgo11> escott, .... ctrl-r refresh works. maybe because of cache. I thought return button would do the refresh.  thanks.
[03:05] <escott> dwarder, X or ssh?
[03:06] <dwarder> escott: i tried to run x over ssh
[03:06] <almoxarife> dwarder: are you wanting to literally be at the console/terminal level? there is "RDP" for graphics console
[03:07] <almoxarife> dwarder: install 'putty' , much simpler ssh client to configure
[03:07] <dwarder> almoxarife: i want to work with remote GUI as fast (perceivable) as i can
[03:08] <escott> dwarder, you might try NX
[03:08] <escott> !info freeNX
[03:08] <escott> !info freenx
[03:08] <escott> something like that
[03:09] <dwarder> escott: thanks i'll take a look
[03:09] <dwarder> looks promising
[03:10] <talpaswarrior> when i type sudo ps from x terminal i only get the processes executed by that terminal.  I have a program which has frozen, but I can't find a process list from which to kill it.
[03:11] <escott> talpaswarrior, why would you ever run sudo ps?
[03:11] <escott> talpaswarrior, ps aux
[03:11] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: install 'htop' , run it with 'sudo' , problem solved , its sort of a gui, for terminal, makes killing stuff easy :)
[03:11] <talpaswarrior> i tried sudo ps since ps wasn't working.  i thought the security measures for memory access were for processes not run as admin.
[03:11]  * talpaswarrior is a newb still.
[03:11] <th3pun15h3r> system monitor not working?
[03:11] <escott> talpaswarrior, no... maybe in some NSA variant of linux, but everyone can see all processes that are running
[03:12] <escott> talpaswarrior, you are just noticing that ps only shows the subprocesses by default
[03:12] <talpaswarrior> i just installed ubuntu 12.10 a week ago.
[03:13] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: congrats
[03:13] <escott> talpaswarrior, "ps aux" will show you everything by everyone
[03:13] <talpaswarrior> ok, thanks.
[03:13] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: you running gnome ?
[03:13] <talpaswarrior> 12.10 is nice.  i like the auto-updater and package manager.
[03:14] <th3pun15h3r> they got a new package manager?
[03:14] <talpaswarrior> maybe?  how do i find out which gui i'm using?
[03:14] <simplew> anyone with a rtl8192ce??
[03:14] <CrazyZurfer> how can I open ports to show my webpage?
[03:14] <th3pun15h3r> you got the bar going down the rightside?
[03:14] <th3pun15h3r> your using unity then
[03:15] <talpaswarrior> oh yea, unity then.
[03:15]  * th3pun15h3r likes unity took a while to get use to at first and didnt like 
[03:15] <talpaswarrior> yea.  i don't like how i can't find my programs if they are unpinned and minimized.
[03:15] <th3pun15h3r> getting desura installed now
[03:16] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: it alt-f2, enter in box 'system-monitor' , does it offer up an app?
[03:16] <th3pun15h3r> hold alt and press tab
[03:16] <talpaswarrior> that gnome add-on looked pretty neat, the one which turns your multiple desktops into a 3D cube.
[03:16] <th3pun15h3r> oh ya compiz
[03:16] <th3pun15h3r> I like how zorin incorporated it in
[03:17] <escott> !ccsm | talpaswarrior
[03:17] <talpaswarrior> lol, wow.  i never tried alt+tab.  nice features for us late migraters.
[03:17] <almoxarife> bling bling
[03:17] <talpaswarrior> oh, thanks!
[03:17] <escott> almoxarife, but my windows can wobble, and a fish can swim in front of what im typing, and little people can be climbing up the sides of my windows and...
[03:18] <mbroyles> ....yeah, the Alt+tab deal is pretty consistent across most operating systems
[03:18] <th3pun15h3r> yep
[03:18] <escott> almoxarife, someone should make a youtube video with all that stuff enabled. xcat and xsimpsons and wobbly windows and cube and xmatrix running on the root window
[03:19] <talpaswarrior> can i use ps aux | grep vnc to search the results for "vnc"
[03:19] <almoxarife> escott: found one bling bling worth the d/l , 'redshift', wow, so much easier on the eyes
[03:19] <jiffe1> hmm, it seems if I add an alias to the lo device lo:10, ifup lo:10 and then ifdown lo:10, the 127.0.0.1 ip is no longer bound to lo
[03:20] <escott> talpaswarrior, yes
[03:20] <talpaswarrior> thx
[03:20] <almoxarife> results?
[03:20] <talpaswarrior> *output
[03:20] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: log output?
[03:21] <almoxarife> is there a gui for cli?
[03:21] <talpaswarrior> idk, i'm not logging anything?
[03:21] <talpaswarrior> i just wanted the lines with "vnc" in them
[03:21] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: believe me, you loggin
[03:21] <talpaswarrior> lol
[03:22] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: thought of running gnome-system-monitor in 'tree' mode? or is that too gui'ish?
[03:22] <th3pun15h3r> anyone had great success with playing battlefield 3 with wine?
[03:23] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: better yet, run 'it' with gksu and point and kill processes, thats sort of fun
[03:23] <dwarder> in mac os it is possible to zoom in a certain part of the screen, is there something like this for ubuntu?
[03:23] <ChogyDan> !appdb | th3pun15h3r
[03:23] <almoxarife> dwarder: yes
[03:23] <talpaswarrior> i was really hoping to adapt to the cli for various reasons.
[03:24] <dwarder> almoxarife: how is "it" called?
[03:24] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: of course
[03:24] <talpaswarrior> mainly getting tired of ctrl+f combined with inefficient eyes
[03:24] <almoxarife> dwarder: 'it' is called 'gnome-system-monitor'
[03:24] <jiffe1> hmm, seems to only be a problem in 11.10
[03:25] <dwarder> almoxarife: realy?
[03:25] <th3pun15h3r> just wondering if anyone here has had luck
[03:25] <escott> dwarder, its in the accessibility tools
[03:25] <almoxarife> dwarder: yeap, a point and kill game for ubuntu, in gksu mode
[03:26] <ChogyDan> th3pun15h3r: appdb is really good
[03:26] <th3pun15h3r> !appdb
[03:26] <th3pun15h3r> ugh lol
[03:26] <almoxarife> th3pun15h3r: got it the first time, thnks
[03:27] <dwarder> escott: universal access?
[03:27] <escott> dwarder, sure
[03:28] <dwarder> escott: can't find anything related to zooming in the menus of this window
[03:28] <ldvg> hi, new to linux, recomendations please
[03:29] <escott> dwarder, "Seeing ZOOM"
[03:29] <Kevin82> ldvg: for a distribution?
[03:29] <dwarder> escott: i mean this thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6w9t81Qe-I
[03:30] <mitch|mobile> Ldvg: use ubuntu if you are beginning with Linux
[03:30] <dwarder> escott: i'm on ubuntu 12.04
[03:30] <dwarder> escott: i don't have this item
[03:31] <omgooses> dwarder: not sure if you can find it in the system settings. the way I've always enabled that is by installing compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:31] <escott> dwarder, not sure what it looks like in 12.04 but it would be under accessibility
[03:31] <escott> dwarder, there might also be something in ccsm related to zoom
[03:31] <talpaswarrior> would apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager work?
[03:32] <omgooses> talpaswarrior: yes. make sure to use sudo
[03:32] <dwarder> omgooses: thanks
[03:32] <talpaswarrior> oh, right.  thanks.
[03:32] <dwarder> escott: thanks, need to go
[03:32] <mitch|mobile> Talpas, sudo apt-get install [insert package(s) here]
[03:33] <mitch|mobile> Damn, my client lags .-.
[03:34] <derosnec> Ne kadar çok insan var
[03:36] <escott> derosnec, this is an english only channel. i cannot identify what you are typing
[03:36] <ratbert90> hey, is there any glade users here by chance?  If so, I am trying to usse glade and whenever I try to import it into my main.c file with xml = glade_xml_new gcc freaks out with a bunch of error: stray '\###' in program
[03:36] <ratbert90> any help?
[03:38] <escott> ratbert90, improperly encoded? run it through iconv maybe?
[03:38] <tdog158> hipitihop, is getting "Your installation of CD-ROM couldn't be mounted." a common issue with booting ubuntu server 12.10 from a usb stick?
[03:38] <tdog158> i mean hi
[03:38] <tdog158> not hipiti :P
[03:38] <derosnec> sorry escott and everyone, i just wanna... :)
[03:38] <ratbert90> escott, I shouldn't have to though
[03:38] <ratbert90> that's whats really ticking me off.
[03:39] <escott> derosnec, its ok... i just can't point you to your own language channel without knowing what it is (but there probably is one)
[03:39] <tdog158> i should have asked, has anyone had a problem installing ubuntu from a usb stick?
[03:39] <escott> tdog158, how did you make the USB?
[03:40] <tdog158> with lili
[03:40] <escott> !md5sum | tdog158
[03:40] <tdog158> i also tried unetbootin
[03:40] <talpaswarrior> what does right click execution specify to the os during execution?
[03:40] <OerHeks> tdog158, where does it go wrong ?
[03:41] <tdog158> right after language & keyboard
[03:41] <derosnec> You are right. it's turkish: there are
[03:41] <escott> tdog158, preferred method is usb-creator-gtk if you have a working ubuntu system to start with
[03:41] <derosnec> too many people.
[03:42] <derosnec> it means
[03:42] <tdog158> it'll try to mount and tell me 'Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. If so you can insert it and try again'
[03:42] <tdog158> i do not currently have a working ubuntu system
[03:42] <escott> derosnec, so thats what turkish looks like... i was gonna say either polish or french with a stuck "k"
[03:42] <sm222> I ran Dota 2 today on ubuntu using wine like it was native, I'd say thats an accomplishment.
[03:43] <escott> tdog158, could be that your bios cannot boot usbs
[03:43] <tdog158> i installed a crux distro not too long ago with no problem on the same usb stick
[03:44] <escott> tdog158, then check the md5sum. if that checks out then its an issue with how you created the usb stick
[03:45] <Jordan_U> tdog158: Last I checked (admittedly a long time ago) the server/alternate install CDs don't support booting from anything but an actual CD.
[03:45] <mitch|mobile> I am a potato.
[03:45] <Jordan_U> tdog158: You can boot the netboot installer from USB though.
[03:45] <sm222> Well for desktop its a DVD now.
[03:46] <tdog158> kk, i'll check out this md5sum exe first
[03:46] <Jordan_U> tdog158: You can install Ubuntu server from the netboot installer.
[03:46] <derosnec> :) escott, im at mobile now, i just gonna one question: is live dvds for current version broken or smthng? i cannot install yesterday
[03:47] <tdog158> okay, is there a page that explains how to do that?
[03:48] <escott> derosnec, i havent heard anything like that
[03:48] <escott> !md5sum | tdog158
[03:48] <AR_> kiyoura,
[03:49] <servvs> okay so I have noticed a very strange security flaw with ubuntu 12.10 Gnome 3
[03:49] <servvs> sometimes GDM will lock up when I am trying to log back in
[03:50] <servvs> if I press CTRL+ALT+L then it logs in without asking for my password
[03:50] <servvs> who would want to know about this?
[03:51] <crltnmgn> is it before youve put the password in?
[03:51] <blackshirt> servvs, why do you think it was security flaw ?
[03:51] <servvs> because now anyone can log into my computer without putting in my password
[03:51] <servvs> yes its before I put the password in
[03:51] <servvs> it locks up on the GDM login screen where you swipe the image up
[03:52] <servvs> if you press CTRL+ALT+L it just logs in automatically
[03:52] <derosnec> ok, i was at work and after this, my friend call me for install ubuntu. But we couldn't. It surprised me. That's all. Thanks :) i will try again tomorrow.
[03:53] <servvs> I get an error report to send to ubuntu as well
[03:53] <billzbox> hello all. new to ubuntu and have question. is there a way to remove shopping lense from dashboard without removing online results altogether?
[03:53] <hipitihop> tdog158, no probs, had me confused for a bit there :-)
[03:54] <ChogyDan> billzbox: maybe try super+a
[03:55] <billzbox> chogydan: noob here not sure what you mean. is there someplace i can read   on this? look it up?
[03:55] <crltnmgn> servvs: is this a stock install? does it happen only when the screen is locked or on initial login as well?
[03:55] <ChogyDan> billzbox: windows key+a
[03:56] <billzbox> chogydan: right that opens dash....
[03:56] <trism> servvs: submit a bug against gdm and you may want to mention it in #ubuntu-gnome, also bug 1064584 seems like it might be related
[03:57] <OldOneEye> is there any good gui to use for a server
[03:57] <tdog158> YeahRight, sorry hipitihop, my client likes to auto-complete names while i like to put a comma after my greeting
[03:57] <billzbox> chogydan: looking for a way to turn off the amazon results without opting out of online results altogether
[03:57] <tdog158> i did it again, sorry yearight T_T
[03:57] <servvs> crltnmgn, as fare as I can see only when the screen is locked. Never on initial login. No its not a stock install. I upgraded from 12.04 (had gnome shell 3.4) now I have 12.10 gnome shell 3.6
[03:58] <trism> servvs: unless of course that is the same bug you are seeing, then you don't need to file a new one
[03:58] <ChogyDan> billzbox: do you still get amazon when using super+a?
[03:58] <DarKMode> OldOneEye gnome is good one
[03:58] <servvs> it looks very similar
[03:58] <servvs> I didn't have that issue at all when using lightdm so I may just switch back to that for a bit
[03:59] <_Tristan> how can I run something alongside lightdm on boot?
[03:59] <billzbox> chogydan: looking for a way to turn off the amazon results without opting out of online results altogether
[04:00] <billzbox> chogydan: whoops sorry , hit enter by mistake
[04:00] <billzbox> chogydan: nope i guess that works
[04:01] <billzbox> chogydan: thankyou sir
[04:01] <ChogyDan> billzbox: it is the app view dash
[04:01] <ChogyDan> there is some sorta help somewhere...
[04:02] <ratbert90> ok, so that was fixed. However is there libglade3.0 files for ubuntu ?
[04:02] <servvs> thanks for the info guys
[04:03] <billzbox> chogydan: wish there was just some way to remove the shop doodad altogether. hate having adverts pushed in my lap in my own house
[04:03] <ChogyDan> billzbox: check privacy settings if you havent yet
[04:04] <crltnmgn> servvs: on the wrong box at the moment to have a go myself, but will try to replicate it tomorrow morning
[04:05] <billzbox> chogydan: yeah, but that only lets me opt out of all online results
[04:05] <ChogyDan> ya
[04:05] <billzbox> chogydan: was hping to kill the amazon results
[04:06] <billzbox> chogydan: ok well thanks. this works for now. will keep hunting
[04:09] <Stormryder> hey guys how do i make my ubuntu like backtrack????/
[04:09] <th3pun15h3r> has anyone else been having connection issues with empathy on 12.04?
[04:10] <OerHeks> Stormryder, install the stuff from backtrack, perhaps?
[04:12] <OerHeks> !backtrack > Stormryder ask here how
[04:13] <voltagex> hi, recently my Broadcom wireless card has stopped working. Works in other OSes etc, and I can't work out what's changed. Using Quantal and can still see the device listed in lspci
[04:14] <KsM> driver got deleted or for some reason not loading?
[04:14] <OerHeks> voltagex, sure? please use paste.ubuntu.com for the output of lspci
[04:14] <almoxarife> voltagex: do you have the 'headers' for the new kernel installed?
[04:15] <voltagex> almoxarife: probably not
[04:15] <voltagex> apt-get kernel-headers?
[04:16] <voltagex> what's the kernel headers package called these days?
[04:16] <almoxarife> voltagex: kernel-headers-generic , i think, should be two files
[04:16] <ratbert90> anybody know of a glade.h for gtk 3?
[04:16] <almoxarife> voltagex: use synaptic?
[04:17]  * salcoder aptitude rules!
[04:18] <OerHeks> salcoder, only @ 32 bit ubuntu.
[04:18]  * salcoder uses text-command all the way.
[04:18] <th3pun15h3r> been wondering if 32 bit ubuntu would be less of a hassle than 64 bit
[04:18]  * salcoder is using irssi... Such a DOS nerd lol
[04:19] <voltagex> bah, transparently proxied network that doesn't like .debs
[04:19] <salcoder> Don't worry about 32 or 64 bit...
[04:19] <salcoder> Worry about being efficient at using the system.
[04:19] <salcoder> :)
[04:19] <Random832> ot
[04:20] <OerHeks> !aptitude | salcoder
[04:20] <Random832> it'd be nice if someone'd realize that 32-bit is here to stay, and do stuff like making 64-bit time_t, ways to map large amounts of memory via segmentation, etc
[04:20] <almoxarife> efficency is kde with cloud sync
[04:20] <Random832> though I heard x32 does have 64-bit time_t
[04:21] <th3pun15h3r> I dont do alot of heavy video editing im just about listening and streaming media and gaming
[04:21] <voltagex> almoxarife: OK, I have the headers installed now
[04:21] <salcoder> OerHeks, who the hecks has multi-ver multi-arch installed?
[04:21] <Karlo_> Why would anybody need more than 32 bits for a timestamp?  :-D
[04:21] <escott> salcoder, everyone who runs 64bit
[04:21] <salcoder> That is just non-sense... and of course it is obvious that aptitude won't work.
[04:21] <OerHeks> salcoder any ubuntu 64 bit user from version 11.10
[04:22] <salcoder> I have done aptitude update and aptitude safe-upgrade and aptitude distro-upgrade all the time with no problem.
[04:22] <salcoder> You have to watch for dependencies... that's all.
[04:22] <voltagex> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1352432/ for my lspci, the wireless card is there
[04:22] <almoxarife> voltagex: reboot
[04:23] <voltagex> seriously?
[04:23] <almoxarife> voltagex: unless you know a way to get the kernel to use the headers
[04:23] <escott> almoxarife, what???
[04:24] <escott> voltagex, you need to recompile the module... no need to reboot
[04:24] <salcoder> I guess I'm just old school and don't like GUI interfaces to manage my packaging system.
[04:24] <almoxarife> escott: recompile the what
[04:24] <almoxarife> ?
[04:24] <salcoder> recompile the kernel with the module modified according to your needs.
[04:24] <almoxarife> voltagex: listen to escott
[04:25] <almoxarife> or reboot :)
[04:25]  * salcoder thinks that reboots are for windows users ;)
[04:25] <almoxarife> voltagex: the issue is the driver, si?
[04:25] <escott> almoxarife, the kernel doesn't use the headers... presumably you need him to install the headers so that voltagex can compile an out of tree broadcom module
[04:25] <voltagex> escott: I couldn't find the dkms command so a reboot was easier
[04:25] <voltagex> escott: correct, it works now
[04:26] <almoxarife> voltagex: :)
[04:26] <voltagex> escott: it isn't an out of tree module
[04:26] <voltagex> thanks.
[04:26] <almoxarife> simple methods for simple people (me) !
[04:27] <voltagex> anywho, working now
[04:27] <th3pun15h3r> grrr empathy wont stay connected
[04:27] <th3pun15h3r> keeps connecting and disconnecting
[04:28] <wastrel> :[
[04:28] <almoxarife> th3pun15h3r: empathy does what
[04:28] <almoxarife> ?
[04:28] <almoxarife> what sort of client?
[04:28] <almoxarife> !empathy
[04:28] <th3pun15h3r> facebook chat
[04:28] <th3pun15h3r> the one integrated with ubuntu 12.04 taskbar
[04:29] <almoxarife> th3pun15h3r: how do you know the issue is not server related?
[04:29] <th3pun15h3r> true
[04:29] <almoxarife> th3pun15h3r: better yet, what does syslog say?
[04:29] <th3pun15h3r> ill try on the website itself
[04:30] <th3pun15h3r> !syslog
[04:30] <almoxarife> th3pun15h3r: /var/log/syslog
[04:30] <almoxarife> tail it if you want to get all cli on it
[04:31] <almoxarife> or use a nice log viewer built into the desktop
[04:31] <th3pun15h3r> quitting due to inactivity?
[04:32] <almoxarife> th3pun15h3r: thats from syslog?
[04:32] <th3pun15h3r> look like a server issue
[04:33] <almoxarife> th3pun15h3r: oh darn, reduced to irc chat
[04:33] <th3pun15h3r> huh?
[04:33] <th3pun15h3r> I use facebook chat to talk to my wife whose pc is upstairs
[04:34] <almoxarife> :)
[04:34] <th3pun15h3r> instead of us trying to yell at each other
[04:34] <th3pun15h3r> especially dont want to wake up the baby and anyone else in the house
[04:34] <almoxarife> th3pun15h3r: thought about setting up a lan server for your own use?
[04:35] <xangua> th3pun15h3r: facebook xmpp service has been having troubles all weekend for me
[04:36]  * almoxarife google chats with his dear mother, google works
[04:36] <th3pun15h3r> I just switched back to ubuntu from crunchbang waldorf
[04:36] <th3pun15h3r> lol
[04:37] <kevin> hey all. something funky is going on. 'service bind9 start' is failing with "named: user 'bind' unknown" yet running "id bind" shows valid information. any idea? it was working perfectly before, and i just did a reboot, now everything is screwy. made no dns changes prior to reboot
[04:38] <th3pun15h3r> I just hope i can get torchlight 2 working on steam through playonlinux like last time
[04:40] <almoxarife> kevin: does user 'named' exist in 'user/groups'?
[04:40] <Speiros> #3vent1
[04:42] <kevin> almoxarife: no, only 'bind' exists as user and group
[04:43] <spendythrift> is there an easier way to mv files with long names via cli?
[04:43] <escott> kevin, and this is not an initramfs issue. its happening if try and start the service now
[04:43] <escott> !tab | spendythrift
[04:43] <van7hu> hi everyone
[04:44] <kevin> escott: im not sure what you mean...?
[04:44] <escott> kevin, it happens if you type "sudo service bind9 start" right now
[04:45] <almoxarife> is the service called bind9 or named?
[04:45] <van7hu> I want to embed CLIPS in C application, I have CLIPS installed, but "include <clips.h>" does not work, and searching for clips.h, couldn't find, what do I need to do?
[04:46] <kevin> almoxarife: it's bind9. i have no named service
[04:47] <DarKMode> Kevin check the log file may be you can find some thing tail /var/log/syslog
[04:48] <almoxarife> the service is called 'named' and the process is called 'named' in opensuse
[04:48] <almoxarife> !named
[04:48] <almoxarife> !bind
[04:49] <DarKMode> almoxarife named is thename on redhat centos
[04:49] <DarKMode> almoxarife for ubuntu it bind9
[04:49] <almoxarife> DarKMode: ok
[04:49] <kevin> ah, theres a couple of these: Nov 11 23:48:58 cerberus kernel: [ 1430.684349] type=1400 audit(1352695738.948:44): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=4187 profile="/usr/sbin/named" name="/etc/nsswitch.conf" pid=4203 comm="named" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[04:50] <almoxarife> named
[04:50] <almoxarife> :)
[04:51] <escott> kevin, you may need to disable apparmor for named or update the apparmor profile
[04:52] <blackshirt> disable some security measures from productions system was a bad things
[04:52] <gustav__> Was?
[04:53] <JoseP> Hello, does anyone know how to get the upgrade notice to quit appearing?
[04:53] <DarKMode> kevin open new terminal with tail -f /var/log/syslog restart the service and pastme every thing use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:54] <kevin> mmm, i just 'service appparmor reload' and then bind started fine. maybe something funky happened on boot *shrug*
[04:57] <almoxarife> kevin: may i ask why you use 'bind'?
[05:08] <talpaswarrior> i'm trying to read files on an exfat formatted usb flash drive.  when i try to use apt-get install fuse-exfat i get the message "E: Unable to locate package fuse-exfat"
[05:09] <OerHeks> talpaswarrior, try exfat-fuse :-)
[05:09] <talpaswarrior> lol ok, thanks OerHeks
[05:10] <talpaswarrior> same error :(
[05:10] <tobias234> hello i want to create an usb live stick (different distribution) what tool can i use under ubuntu 12.10?
[05:10] <keith_> Using gnome 3, computer become unusable with dual monitors with combined resolution greater than 2048 pixels. Is this fixable?
[05:10] <MrMagic_> tu
[05:11] <DarKMode> talpaswarrior try apt-cache search fuse exfat
[05:11] <OerHeks> !info exfat-fuse
[05:11] <MrMagic_> I just installed ubuntu on a netbook using a thumbdrive i made with unetbootin, for some reason the netbook wil not boot without the usb key in it, after i log in i can take it out but if i do before it just hangs at black screen, any ideas?
[05:12] <xangua> MrMagic_: sounds like you installed grub in the usb stick
[05:12] <MrMagic_> xangua, is that easy to fix?
[05:12] <talpaswarrior> DarkMode nothing displays, just outputs another prompt
[05:13] <DarKMode> MrMagic_ it better to reinstall it again
[05:13] <xangua> MrMagic_: i personally have never had that problem, you can try the restore grub instructions
[05:13] <xangua> !grub2 | MrMagic_
[05:13] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: http://apcmag.com/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu.htm <-- take a look, mentions a ppa
[05:14] <talpaswarrior> already ran apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat
[05:14] <almoxarife> talpaswarrior: did you update?
[05:14] <talpaswarrior> what do you mean?
[05:14] <almoxarife> apt-get update
[05:14] <talpaswarrior> ok
[05:16] <talpaswarrior> almoxarife that worked
[05:16] <MrMagic_> xangua, awesome trying that now
[05:17] <DarKMode> talpaswarrior apt-cache search fuse | grep fat
[05:18] <DarKMode> talpaswarrior i think it fusefat
[05:18] <DarKMode> try apt-get install fusefat
[05:19] <almoxarife> DarKMode: you think so?
[05:20] <DarKMode> almoxarife it writed there
[05:21] <almoxarife> DarKMode: he added a ppa, had not 'updated' , he could have 'grep'ed' till the cows came in and he would have not seen the package
[05:21] <DarKMode> fusefat : File System In user Space - Module For Fat
[05:23] <anonmunah> hai, My desktop icons are not showing up.. neither is the contextual menu..  ubuntu 12.04 lts
[05:23] <almoxarife> what i want to do now is install ubuntu on a kindle-fire
[05:27] <bidhan> Need help installing java6-jdk required for hadoop, the sourcce for java6 couldnt be found. Thankyou in advance
[05:27] <nixxxx> nobody is here..
[05:27] <Jordan_U> xangua: If MrMagic comes back please tell them to boot normally (into their installed system) and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to change what devices the grub-pc package is configured to install grub's boot sector to.
[05:27] <xangua> bidhan: restricted-extras should install jdk and the browser plugin
[05:28] <nixxxx> i haz no icons n stuffs on desktop..
[05:28] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#JDK_or_JRE
[05:30] <xangua> nixxxx: alt+f2, run nautilus
[05:30] <nixxxx> did it
[05:30] <nixxxx> no beuno
[05:31] <nixxxx> (nautilus:13745): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_add_weak_pointer: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[05:34] <anhduc> Hi
[05:34] <anhduc> can you speak vietnammese
[05:34] <anhduc> ?
[05:35] <nixxxx> no
[05:35] <OerHeks> anhduc, join #ubuntu-vn
[05:35] <anhduc> What?
[05:35] <anhduc> help me!
[05:36] <OerHeks> anhduc, this channel is English only
[05:37] <anhduc> Thanks you !
[05:38] <keith_> Is there anyway to disable compositing in cinnamon?
[05:39] <xangua> keith_: cinnamon is not supported here
[05:39] <OerHeks> keith_, cinnamon is not supported by ubuntu, join  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[05:39] <keith_> xangua: Thanks, does it have its own channen?
[05:40] <keith_> OerHeks: Thanks
[05:52] <Tape> I UPDATED LAST FRIDYA NIGHT/SATURDAY MORNING
[05:52] <Tape> GET OUT FUJIOKA
[05:53] <Tape> AND SINCE THEN AFTER A WHILE INTO BOOTING THE KEYBOARD GETS STUCK ON CAPS LOCK
[05:53] <Tape> AND HTE CAPS LOCK BUTTON DOESNT DO ANYTHING
[05:55] <tobias234> since a while new gnome or so it's not anymore possible to minize windows?
[05:55] <tobias234> is this a joke?
[05:55] <Stanley00> Tape: you can use onboard, try turn off caplock first.
[05:55] <Tape> oh right
[05:57] <Tape> how does onboard help fixing this
[05:57] <Tape> cuz caps lock only works on the onboard kb
[05:57] <tobias234> what is with minimize windows?
[05:57] <tobias234> how can i do this?
[05:58] <fujioka> you can't it is a feature only featured on freebsd
[05:58] <tobias234> where do i get this freebsd
[05:58] <tobias234> joke :D
[05:59] <Tape> ... ok. hitting onboard KB caps lock button turns off caps lock LED light
[05:59] <Tape> but it doesnt change anything
[06:13] <mah454> I want to make own LiveCD
[06:13] <mah454> how can change codename ?
[06:16] <phax> which instruction tracing tool is available on Ubuntu 10.0.4 ?
[06:17] <Flyzoola> evening ladies and gents I need some help
[06:17] <OerHeks> mah454, change what codename ?
[06:18] <mah454> OerHeks: change distribution codename
[06:18] <mah454> OerHeks: lsb_release -a
[06:18] <acuozzo> Can someone help me get my subwoofer working?
[06:18] <OerHeks> mah454, i think that is embedded in the kernel.
[06:18] <mah454> no
[06:19] <acuozzo> My laptop comes with a 4.1 system and I'm able to get everything except the subwoofer working
[06:19] <mah454> /etc/lsb-release
[06:19] <rumpe1> mah454, use an editor
[06:20] <mah454> rumpe1: i edited this file , All things is true but "apt-add-repository" not work !
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> i have a purple bootscreen freezing on 12.04, need a reboot to boot to login screen properly...how can i fix this?
[06:20] <acuozzo> Any tips on another IRC room that may help? #alsa didn't...
[06:21] <OerHeks> mah454, if you change the /etc/lsb-release, logically any repository cannot find your custom build
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !alsa | acuozzo
[06:21] <rumpe1> mah454, so apt-add-repository seems to use the output of lsb-release to determine an URL... bad luck.
[06:22] <acuozzo> Thanks, lotuspsychje, but it doesn't seem like anyone is ever available in #alsa
[06:22] <acuozzo> I've tried all day
[06:22] <whatwhat> is it possible to use 2 wireless connnnnection at the same time ?
[06:22] <AcidRain2012> grrr
[06:22] <rumpe1> mah454, build a wrapper around apt-add-repository or get its source code and adapt it ...
[06:23] <rumpe1> meowmeow, sure
[06:23] <meowmeowmeow> and how to do it
[06:23] <AcidRain2012> i must be having a brain crash after hrs of programming.
[06:23] <meowmeowmeow> how do i know which connection is using for web browsing
[06:23] <rumpe1> meowmeowmeow, tell the system, which device to use for which purpose
[06:23] <rumpe1> meowmeowmeow, see output of "route"
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> AcidRain2012: did you try ##programming
[06:24] <meowmeowmeow> it doesn't sound possible
[06:24] <rumpe1> meowmeowmeow, why shouldn't it be?
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a program that can measure wifi range of wifi adapter, any hints?
[06:25] <hello23> hello
[06:25] <nowhereman> hello !!
[06:25] <meowmeowmeow> i want to use connection a to watch video and the other to do other web browsing
[06:25] <rumpe1> meowmeowmeow, if you maybe want to combine two internet connections ... you just have to tell the system how to do that.
[06:25] <rumpe1> meowmeowmeow, a video from where? local network?
[06:26] <meowmeowmeow> no youtube
[06:26] <meowmeowmeow> what do you mean by telling the system ?
[06:26] <rumpe1> meowmeowmeow, so you want to browser/access internet on both devices.
[06:26] <nowhereman> alguien en español ???
[06:26] <meowmeowmeow> what app can be used to " tell the system "
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !es | nowhereman
[06:26] <hello23> i have a question...if i create a user without password on my ubuntu server (to let a process user that user instead of one of the primary) is it a risk? should i create auser with password?
[06:26] <AcidRain2012> lotuspsychje: yeah man i got it. thanks for the help though.
[06:26] <hello23> i created it through useradd
[06:26] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, wavemon is a gui tool, with colours to measure wifi strength and stuff
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:tnx lemme try that1
[06:27] <nowhereman> thanks !
[06:27] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, ehh a cli-tool with...
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> !security | hello23
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> hello23:check server security section on page
[06:28] <Flyzoola> I am currently on an OLD rig that I stopped using sometime in 2008. It's a Pavilion 304w running Ubuntu 8.04. While I know this version is no longer supported, I am trying to figure out how to at least watch flash content on the internet (youtube, etc). Can anyone lend me a hand??
[06:28] <phax> Which pkt has the itrace (instruction tracing software) for Ubuntu ? The default install is a network utility itrace
[06:28] <rumpe1> meowmeowmeow, hm... good question. But it sure is possible. The question is maybe "How difficult is it, so configure something like that?"
[06:29] <nowhereman> well, i just want to ask a question... my ubuntu is running slowly, and suddenly get freeze for seconds... with many task... somebody could tell me what to do to fix it ?
[06:29] <hello23> my question is...can someone take over that user because it has no password or has it the saem risk as user with password?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:nice program tnx!!
[06:29] <Flyzoola> now normally I would upgrade, but I honestly don't think my PC could handle a newer version (hell, even new website designs make it run choppy). So, any help? Much obliged
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !xubuntu | Flyzoola
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Flyzoola: its highly recommended to clean install your system
[06:30] <SimonJai> my GRUB doesn't have a countdown timer when I reboot, does my config look okay?  http://pastebin.com/uyDWf6H8
[06:31] <OerHeks> Flyzoola, with newer ubuntu versions, you would have HD support for GPU , and newer flash, to go with it. maybe update your browser and use html5 in youtube.com
[06:31] <OerHeks> c/hd/hw
[06:31] <nowhereman> somebody ?
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> !details | nowhereman
[06:32] <Flyzoola> lotuspsychej, Oerheks. I understand, but this PC is pretty much in the same working conditions as it was in 2008. I tried upgrading to Chrome, but a discreptency (is that it?) was missing. Is there really no simple way to do this?
[06:32] <alan1> hilo
[06:33] <rodayo> Is there some setting that governs the UI font style? Right now for firefox it's set to ubuntu but it's not boled like it normally is
[06:33] <ubuntu-studio> gfd
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> Flyzoola:rolling back to older flash version might work, but i recommend clean install
[06:33] <SimonJai> guess not...
[06:33] <Flyzoola> lotuspsychej, like I said, I doubt my computer could handle a newer version of Ubuntu. My old rig was newer by a couple of years and I still had some problems with it because it was older.
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> SimonJai:grub config looks normal to me, what your issue exactly?
[06:34] <Flyzoola> Like I said, I'm using 8.10 and when I stopped using it years back, it worked fine, as it does now. Just all my software is outdated
[06:34] <xangua> Flyzoola: just not supported here :)
[06:34] <Flyzoola> and I know I can't just "add/remove" from the Ubuntu menu :(
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> Flyzoola:thats just the reason its not supported anymore, also security risk using older software
[06:35] <OerHeks> Flyzoola, only solution is to install a new ubuntu, with a lighter DE like xfce - xubuntu
[06:35] <hello23> please can someone answer me? i'm kinda new to this :( i created a user with useradd so it's basically a user without password...is it a security risk?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> hello23:you mean like a guest user?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> hello23:a user without password, doesnt have root axs, so it kinda 'safe' to use
[06:36] <hello23> i want a process to make it use that user
[06:37] <hello23> so i has't access to the rest
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> hello23:wich process?
[06:37] <hello23> is that right?
[06:37] <hello23> amule
[06:37] <hello23> amuled
[06:37] <Flyzoola> dang, I was hoping to not have to do a fresh install :(
[06:37] <majnoon> hi this what would LIKE to do :would like to connect windows box through linux one and bridge connection to net with ip number on that lan
[06:37] <nowhereman> ooh sorry ! well my laptop it´s a toshiba satellite 250 HD and 4gb RAM and my problem is that ubuntu get freeze when i´m working with many tasks for example: music, ofice write, and web page... run so slowly, and then get freeze and i have to wait to respond... and the music starts to sound paused ...  what can i do to fix it?
[06:38] <hello23> it's basically a filesharing damemon
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> hello23:sure
[06:38] <Flyzoola> are there, by any chance, any channels you guys know of that might help me with older versions of Ubuntu? If not, that's ok.
[06:38] <OerHeks> SimonJai, comment # before the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 line: #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[06:38] <alan1> hello23: hi
[06:39] <hello23> hi
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> nowhereman:did you clean install ubuntu or upgrade?
[06:39] <alan1> hello23: hi
[06:39] <OerHeks> SimonJai, Then do a sudo update-grub and reboot.
[06:42] <Tohuw> Oddly enough, less does not seem to fold lines by default on my Ubuntu 12.10 installation. Why is this?
[06:42] <ki4ro_> .
[06:43] <nowhereman> lotuspsychje no, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and now said that i have ubuntu 1210
[06:43] <KI4RO> .
[06:43] <cappicard> good evening. anyone have an hauppage PVR-1250 tv tuner with an IR blaster?
[06:43] <cappicard> trying to get my IR remote to work on it. i'm using 12.04.1
[06:44] <gustav__> Is there some way of seeing what files I have on my system that are not in packages as listed per dpkg -l?
[06:44] <Flyzoola> ok, easier request. How do I uninstall firefox, and then install a newer version? I am very much ignorant to the process of installing through tarballs through the terminal.
[06:45] <nowhereman> and in the information display said that i just have 1,8 gb in memory ... but i really have 4 gb  and in HD said 0gb ! D:
[06:48] <Flyzoola> Anybody? :o
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> nowhereman: i really recommend a clean install mate, your system will go much smoother
[06:49] <somsip> Flyzoola: why do you want to install a tarball of firefox?
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> nowhereman:after clean install 12.10 do a system shred with ubuntu-tweak
[06:50] <mattsyco> Flyzoola, uninstalling is something you can do through your software center
[06:50] <nowhereman> well, i downloaded the ubuntu from internet... what can i do to do a clean install ?
[06:50] <kushal_kumaran> Flyzoola: there is a firefox beta ppa at https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next.  Does that suffice for your purposes?
[06:51] <Flyzoola> somsip: because that's the only available download for a newer version. Off of "getfirefox.com" they only offer a tarball download. I would use the software center for a newer version, but I'm on ubu8.04.
[06:51] <nowhereman> oooh ! all right i will try it ! thanks lotuspsychje
[06:51] <Flyzoola> kushal_kumaran: I am not entirely sure, but I will deffinately check it and I thank you for your support :)
[06:52] <Flyzoola> mattsyco, thanks a lot sir
[06:53] <somsip> Flyzoola: yeah - PPA looks like a easier way, but 8.04...
[06:54] <Flyzoola> so, is new firefox incompatible with older ubuntu versions, basically??
[06:55] <OerHeks> Flyzoola, yes.and that ppa has no candidate for 8.10 intrepid, so it is useless
[06:55] <Flyzoola> Oerheks, ah, ok. Then I will have to upgrade my version. The woes of downloading at 10 kb/s fall upon me haha
[06:56] <kushal_kumaran> Flyzoola: I don't think people are building firefox packages for ubuntu 8.04.  The official tarball might still work.
[06:58] <mattsyco> I would still try the ppa first.  the worst that can happen is that you get a file that cant be read by software center.
[06:58] <Flyzoola> kushal_kumaran: yeah, I figured as much. I was just trying to find a way around upgrading because my internet connection is very much slow, so it's gonna be a couple of hours (or twelve). I'll give the tarball a try, if it does not work, then oh well, I shall upgrade.Thanks you guys, everyone that's helped me
[07:06] <AcidRain2012> can i have colored text in the terminal?
[07:06] <AcidRain2012> when using bash?
[07:08] <OerHeks> AcidRain2012, you have, type "  ls -l   " in terminal
[07:11] <StarryNight> does anyone has issues with skype? when i call a window's based skype user after few minutes of talk i loose their sound they can hear me but i cannot hear them
[07:12] <OerHeks> AcidRain2012,  plus this tutor > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11902070&postcount=4
[07:13] <gustav__> How can I make this frickin' X scroll horizontally?
[07:13] <almoxarife> StarryNight: do you know how to get to your logs?
[07:14] <StarryNight> lemme check them
[07:14] <almoxarife> StarryNight: or another way, start skype from terminal and watch output as the conversation progresses
[07:14] <almoxarife> StarryNight: look at syslog
[07:15] <StarryNight> ok
[07:16] <gustav__> There are like 2 people helping in this channel. -.-"
[07:17] <almoxarife> StarryNight: you have seen this happen with more than one win skype user? otherwise i would say the issue is with the win machine
[07:17] <StarryNight> yea because it happened with two different users
[07:18] <almoxarife> StarryNight: ok
[07:19] <almoxarife> gustav__: explain your issue a bit better
[07:21] <StarryNight> will i be better off with 32 bit version?
[07:22] <almoxarife> StarryNight: skype?
[07:22] <StarryNight> yep
[07:22] <AcidRain2012> hmmm... if bash doesnt have a goto function, how to i get back to the beginning of a script without having to rerun it manually?
[07:23] <AcidRain2012> i need to know this because im waiting on a device to be plugged in
[07:23] <almoxarife> StarryNight: cant hurt to try
[07:23] <almoxarife> AcidRain2012: adb?
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> what is adb? man adb gives nothing
[07:25] <timfrost> AcidRain2012: wrap the activity in a loop with a test to detect that the device is now plugged in?
[07:25] <almoxarife> AcidRain2012: sorry, i was wondering if you had 'adb' waiting on a device, android device
[07:26] <gustav__> almoxarife: I have a touchpad with multitouch. Horizontal scrolling in gnome-control-panel is checked. When I move two fingers in x-axis nothing happens. It used to work.
[07:26] <someprimetime> for some reason a user i created and added to the admin group doesn't have any coloring or tab completion available but when i log in as that user and open up ~/.bashrc the scripts for both coloring and tab completion are there...
[07:26] <AcidRain2012> no. im detecting uuid of devices for backup
[07:26] <AcidRain2012> im actually done with the script. i just simplily need to loop it
[07:27] <almoxarife> gustav__: i am clueless about ubuntu on tablet, sorry
[07:27] <AznLosty> OerHeks: Hey, I commented out "GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0", did a `grub-update` and rebooted
[07:27] <AcidRain2012> .... this is ubuntu on desktop
[07:27] <AznLosty> but still stuck on GRUB menu
[07:27] <AcidRain2012> lol
[07:28] <gustav__> almoxarife: Good. This is not a tablet.
[07:29] <almoxarife> gustav__: two finger on touchpad, got it, still clueless, what should happen? btw, what changes were made between it working and now?
[07:31] <gustav__> almoxarife: Should move the horizontal bar in a very wide firefox webpage for instance. A lot of changes... various packages. Might be because I am in WindowMaker... but I think it worked at one point in time after I changed to it.
[07:32] <almoxarife> gustav__: synaptics, not to be confused with synaptic i believe controls mouse and pad, was there a change to that package?
[07:33] <rinzler> how do I edit an xrandr mode?
[07:34] <palasso> I was trying to install alacarte for a main menu editor but it has many dependencies. Does anyone know some other tool?
[07:34] <AKnot> How can i change adobe flash fonts?
[07:34] <gustav__> almoxarife: Can I check out history? I don't think so.
[07:34] <gustav__> Hmm...
[07:34] <almoxarife> gustav__: you can with 'synaptic' package manager
[07:35] <almoxarife> rinzler: are you adding a mode or tweaking with xrandr?
[07:36] <gustav__> almoxarife: Some xorg package.
[07:38] <xiangtong> HELLO
[07:38] <xiangtong> 呵呵。
[07:39] <gustav__> HorizScrollDelta has 0; xorg.conf.
[07:39] <gustav__> That doesn't sound very good.
[07:40] <rinzler> almoxarife: added a mode, and then arandr didn't like it, so I needed to either delete it or change it. I got it removed now, so I'm good now :)
[07:41] <Mortu> Hi, i got Pidgin 2.10.6 and in my buddy list my buddies are shown by their ID not by their nicknames and i can`t find where to select nicknames. Help?
[07:42] <almoxarife> Mortu: id?
[07:42] <OerHeks> AKnot, you can't, flash is a binairy blob
[07:43] <AKnot> :(
[07:43] <AcidRain2012> in bash, how do i print a blank line?
[07:43] <AcidRain2012> or echo
[07:44] <rumpe1> AcidRain2012, just "echo"
[07:44] <dilan> pwd
[07:44] <AcidRain2012> rumpe1: what if i want an extra line after the last line?
[07:44] <AcidRain2012> like echo "hello world" + blank line + echo "hey"
[07:45] <rumpe1> AcidRain2012, hm? echo "hello world"; echo; echo "hey"
[07:45] <AcidRain2012> lol. >_> ok. i was trying to avoid extra echo
[07:45] <AcidRain2012> figured bash would have something like \n
[07:45] <Mortu> almoxarife: you mean what is my yahoo id?
[07:46] <rumpe1> AcidRain2012, man echo:  "echo "hello world\n\nhey"
[07:46] <rumpe1> AcidRain2012, erm... echo -e "hello... \n\n..."
[07:46] <AcidRain2012> ah.
[07:54] <imONxubuntu> which version of FLASH and JAVASCRIPT should i get for my fresh new xubuntu installation?
[07:55] <somsip> gah! importing a huge DB on a server and rapidly approaching 100% of du. Deleted the logs and apt-get clean. Anything else I can do quickly to try to free up some space?
[07:57] <almoxarife> use bleachbit to remove locales somsip
[07:57] <imONxubuntu> how do i install flash player?
[07:58] <gabkdlly> !flash | imONxubuntu
[07:59] <Mortu> !help
[08:06] <herobubba> ive tried to boot ubuntu in virtual box and i get an error saying my processor doesnt have pae support (processor is a p4 ht) ive read a way to get around it but i dont see how it could work if the processor doesnt have that feature?
[08:06] <somsip> almoxarife: cheers - just got me 32MB. Not loads, but just need this 42million record table to index and this will help...
[08:08] <OerHeks> herobubba, there is an iso without PAE available >> http://people.canonical.com/~diwic/12.04-nonpae/
[08:09] <herobubba> alright thanks ill check that out
[08:09] <hubert_> hello
[08:09] <forzabiz> buon giorno
[08:10] <forzabiz> list
[08:10] <somsip> !list > forzabiz
[08:14] <GeorgeTorwell> Hey I have a problem with Unity. When I minimize a program, it disappears to the system tray on Cinnamon, but on Unity it just disappears and is no where to be found (the process is still running according to the ps command)
[08:21] <OerHeks> GeorgeTorwell, try Alt + Tab ?
[08:21] <Justice> is the fglrx driver broken in ubuntu on 64bit?
[08:28] <mattfury> hello, holy jesus that a huge number of people in here o.O
[08:28] <mattfury> err do i need python with wubi?
[08:30] <MaTachi> mattfury, It was a while a go I used wubi, but I'm pretty sure it's only to download and install that program. Nothing else needed as far as I know
[08:30] <Thete> Is there a good epub reader for Ubuntu?
[08:30] <mattfury> on windows 8?
[08:31] <OerHeks> Thete, i use Calibre for all formats
[08:31] <MaTachi> mattfury, I haven't used windows 8
[08:31] <MaTachi> Thete, Calibre is the only program I know is able to open epub files. Sux a bit that evince isn't able to do it
[08:32] <y4h0> ls
[08:32] <Thete> Doesn't make much sense as to why there isn't many options
[08:34] <OerHeks> Thete, Calibre has not many options?
[08:34] <Thete> No I mean other apps
[08:35] <shantorn> Thete, there is also an epub plugin for FF as well
[08:36] <Thete> Thinking about writing some nice clean app for it
[08:36] <OerHeks> or FBreader.
[08:36] <MaTachi> Thete, A plugin to Evince would be enough (if that is possible)
[08:37] <Thete> That'd work
[08:37] <Thete> It shouldn't be too hard, it's just CSS formated XML
[08:37] <MaTachi> ah, nice
[08:38] <Thete> huh, aparently there's a few that are already working on it
[08:38] <Thete> sweet
[08:41] <Justice> is there a reason why eclipse juno is not in the ubuntu repos ?
[08:42] <Thete> Justice: It's easier to just update eclipse through eclipse
[08:42] <Thete> I've found it's a huge pain in the ass to use the apt pkg
[08:43] <Thete> Works great if you just download the package from Eclipse's website
[08:43] <Justice> how is it simplet to download and install 3.8 and then update to juno and not have juno in repos in the beginning ?
[08:43] <Justice> simpler*
[08:44] <wtf911> any one here atm?
[08:44] <Thete> Just download juno directly from eclipse's website
[08:44] <Thete> and install that
[08:44] <Thete> Don't bother with the repo version
[08:44] <Justice> no i thought there was a "reason" for it
[08:44] <wtf911> i need a little bit of iptables help...just one command
[08:44] <Justice> other than meh we dont bother to update our repos
[08:50] <lkthomas> hey guys, if I want to setup wireless router using ubuntu, how could I apply WPA2 key ?
[08:52] <wtf911> nas -P /tmp/nas.wl0lan.pid -H 34954 -l br0 -i eth1 -A -m 128 -k yourkey -s yourssid -w 4 -g 3600
[08:52] <wtf911> ^ example of whats running on my router
[08:52] <lkthomas> nas is a program ?!
[08:53] <wtf911> idk just trying to help
[08:56] <Danielss89> Hi
[08:57] <Danielss89> i can run "leeroy" from my command line, but if i want it to run forever and start again on an error, how could i do that?
[08:59] <Jordan_U> Danielss89: while ! leeroy; do echo "Restarting leeroy due to exit with non-zero exit status: $?"; done
[08:59] <Danielss89> Jordan_U: where should i put that?
[09:00] <Danielss89> oh, i want to be able to close my terminal also
[09:00] <Jordan_U> Danielss89: That will run leeroy, and if the command exits "successfully" (with an exit status of zero) then it will simply stop there, if it exits with an error then it will be restarted.
[09:01] <Danielss89> Jordan_U: ok
[09:05] <Chartax> Hey all, wondering if someone could help me out with my Wi-if
[09:05] <Chartax> Err... Wi-fi.
[09:06] <Chartax> It was working well yesterday, it would seem after updates it can't pick up any networks.
[09:07] <user01> hi, my company told me to whitelist my ip for website access . . . but i have dsl connection . . . doesnt that change all the time if i dont have a static ip?
[09:08] <Chartax> Hi user01 - it can do. If possible you could consider setting up dynDNS
[09:08] <Chartax> That war toy
[09:09] <llutz_> dynDNS won't help for outgoing connections
[09:09] <Chartax> Yeah... Hmm.
[09:09] <cloudy>  user01 You could ask your ISP if they can provide you a static IP.
[09:11] <OerHeks> user01, or use Tor
[09:11] <OerHeks> !tor
[09:11] <llutz_> OerHeks: even tor won't give you always teh same exit-node/IP
[09:12] <OerHeks> llutz, true, but it hides his real IP
[09:12] <llutz_> OerHeks: which won't help at all
[09:12] <user01> tor?
[09:12] <user01> tor distributes the connection to different ips i thought
[09:12] <llutz_> vpn-gateway or proxy with fixed IP
[09:13] <llutz_> user01: it does
[09:13] <user01> llutz, which is the opposite if i ask them to whitelist one ip? :)
[09:13] <llutz_> user01: tell that OerHeks ;)
[09:14] <OerHeks> llutz, so Tor is useless ?
[09:14] <llutz_> user01: i'd guess you need a vpn-gateway or proxy with fixed IP somewhere
[09:14] <llutz_> OerHeks: in this case it is, yes
[09:14] <user01> OerHeks, if you are trying to stay anonymous it  is useful
[09:14] <user01> llutz, we have juniper but it sucks with linux
[09:15] <user01> llutz, cant get it to work
[09:15] <cloudy> user01, ssl-vpn?
[09:16] <user01> cloudy, they dont have that though that would be nice
[09:16] <user01> cloudy, i guess i could ask though
[09:16] <user01> cloudy, we have key fob juniper
[09:17] <cloudy> user01, is a key fob something like a rsa hard token?
[09:18] <user01> cloudy, i think i would prefer some kind of white list since the servers are on the other side of the planet
[09:18] <user01> cloudy, yes
[09:18] <user01> cloudy, random number ever 30 seconds
[09:19] <cloudy> user01, right, thanks. Do you have a client for linux?
[09:20] <user01> juniper?
[09:20] <cloudy> user01, maybe java based?
[09:20] <user01> cloudy, i do but it fails
[09:21] <abem> my system is a bit slow, what can I do to free up space?
[09:21] <user01> cloudy, when i asked for help from the ubuntu guy at work he says the juniper is notorious difficult
[09:22] <user01> user01, in linux
[09:22] <cloudy> user01, I think I know what your colleague means
[09:22] <cloudy> :)
[09:23] <cloudy> user01, but as long as your IP is not whitelisted on your works side, I think any client would fail
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> abem: uninstalling old kernels is a great way :)
[09:23] <user01> cloudy, you should see the script i wrote so that it would select the 32 bit java over 64 bit just to open the juniper
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> abem: I'm not sure freeing space will speed things up but it's no bad thing to do
[09:23] <llutz_> abem: "df -h" to check free space first
[09:24] <user01> cloudy, right but i dont know if my isp will give me a fixed ip address
[09:25] <user01> i guess i can send a whitelistip everytime it changes
[09:25] <llutz_> user01: they will, but you'll have to pay for
[09:25] <user01> or go to starbucks
[09:25] <user01> llutz, could i give a range perhaps?
[09:26] <llutz_> user01: i really don't know sorry
[09:26] <Chartax> User01: you could, but it would have to be quite wide
[09:29] <Chartax> And it would kind of defeat the point of an ip filter. It'd be as easy just requesting a static IC.
[09:29] <dougbb> i'm on 12.10, and my sound, which was previously working fine, has gone missing ... can someone please suggest a way to fix it?
[09:29] <Chartax> IP*
[09:30] <Chartax> dougbb: have you checked your settings in the Sound settings? Got the correct default device etc. ?
[09:30] <dougbb> Chartax: I'm on xubuntu
[09:31] <philballew> Best way to grab a screenshot of a certain part of my desktop or a certain app?
[09:31] <dougbb> I'm willing to think that the "default device" issue is a concern though, since I have a vidoe card with hdmi that tends to cause confusion
[09:32] <dougbb> philballew: gimp will do that
[09:32] <dougbb> or the xfce screenshot app
[09:32] <philballew> dougbb, gimp does screenshots?
[09:32] <abem> ActionParsnip: What do you think could be the cause of this slow system? Sorry for my ignorance not a computer fundi.
[09:32] <dougbb> nope, I lied to you just now :)
[09:33]  * philballew cries
[09:33] <user01> can a whitelist do a domain so that i could do dyndns?
[09:33] <somsip> !scrot | philballew
[09:33] <somsip> !info scrot | philballew
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> abem: what CPU / RAM / GPU do you have?
[09:33] <llutz_> user01: does dyndns (or similar services) set reverse-dns? if not, that won't help either
[09:34] <philballew> somsip, thank you
[09:35] <somsip> philballew: there are a few similar ones...xsnap is my choice
[09:35] <moon33> hello
[09:37] <keinplan> Whats up?
[09:37] <moon33> i recently setup a fileserver with ubuntu server...i was thinking of using zfs as filesystem...is it reliable on ubuntu?
[09:37] <keinplan> close
[09:37] <keinplan> quit
[09:37] <cloudy> user01, I would check the website of your ISP.
[09:38] <jotterbot1234> hey moon33, I'm just doing the same
[09:39] <jotterbot1234> I have gone with ext4
[09:39] <jotterbot1234> But am investigating alternatives...
[09:39] <moon33> i really would like a fs that survives power loss
[09:39] <iceroot> moon33: not recommend on GNU/Linux to use ZFS
[09:39] <b0w> Hi!
[09:40] <iceroot> moon33: its a sloaris/bsd fs
[09:40] <iceroot> solaris
[09:40] <b0w> anyone here have time to explain how to dual boot windows 8 with ubuntu 12.10 ?
[09:40] <iceroot> !dualboot | b0w
[09:40] <moon33> what do u recommend then?
[09:40] <iceroot> moon33: ext4
[09:40] <ewook> moon33: battery backup on the raid card.
[09:40] <abem> ActionParsnip: Memory 2,7 GiB, Processor: AMD Athlon(tm)X2 DualCore QL-66 x 2, Available disk space: 97,1 GiB
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> abem: what GPU?
[09:41] <moon33> what about btrfs?
[09:41] <issam> testing
[09:42] <issam> hi
[09:42] <ewook> yeah, still no stable release.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> abem: lspci | grep -i vga      will tell you
[09:42] <moon33> isn't there really any good alternatives to zfs on linux?
[09:43] <llutz_> moon33: not yet, no
[09:43] <moon33> aw :(
[09:43] <moon33> ok
[09:43] <CrazyGangster> xfs?
[09:43] <gordonjcp> moon33: btrfs?
[09:43] <b0w> Hi!
[09:43] <b0w> anyone here have time to explain how to dual boot windows 8 with ubuntu 12.10 ?
[09:44] <TJ-> user01: regarding the Juniper Java-based SSL-VPN client. It is possible to do away with the Java access-control client entirely. See for example:  http://www.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/~iwr91/juniper/
[09:44] <moon33> i have like 10TB of stuff to backup i really need something stable
[09:44] <dougbb>  !dualboot | b0w
[09:44] <moon33> and something i can trust for long
[09:44] <yarinse> Hello, which ubuntu is better to install, 12. 04 ó 12. 01. which has more support
[09:45] <blazemore> yarinse: Ubuntu 12.04 will recieve updates for longer, but 12.10 is more recent
[09:45] <b0w> anyone? dual booting?
[09:45] <blazemore> yarinse: Unless you have a good reason to stick with the older version, I'd recommend 12.10
[09:45] <blazemore> b0w: Yes many people. Install Windows 8 first, then Ubuntu and you'll be golden
[09:45] <dougbb> b0w: did you not see the links that have been mentioned twice now?
[09:45] <carlosllugo> hello
[09:46] <moon33> do you thing freenas would be a better alternative?
[09:46] <moon33> think*
[09:46] <moon33> and use it's native zfs
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> b0w: http://tinyurl.com/cuocpt9
[09:46] <ludolan> Hi. what can cause this message :
[09:47] <ludolan> kernel: [    1.486705] ata1.00: failed to enable AA(error_mask=0x1)
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: Precise is supported long after Quantal is EOL
[09:47] <nikolai_> hi, if lightdm starts my specified window manager - which environment is it using for the launch?
[09:47] <yarinse> blazemore: For the latest features,
[09:47] <yarinse> choose Ubuntu 12.10
[09:47] <yarinse> Ubuntu 12.10 will be supported for two years and includes cutting-edge new features that make your music, videos, documents and apps much easier to access.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: pretty sweet reason imho
[09:47] <z01d> freenasons....
[09:47] <blazemore> ludolan: When does that appear?
[09:47] <user01> TJ-, where does it say that it does not use java to run?
[09:47] <ludolan> blazemore: randomly. It cause some iptables rules deleted ....
[09:47] <blazemore> z01d: "Freenasons" is possible the best word I'll see today
[09:48] <carlosllugo> can someone help me install the amd drivers for and AMD HD radean 660m? I've broken to installs so far :/
[09:48] <blazemore> moon33: You can run FreeNAS in a virtual machine or something. Or use a RasPi
[09:48] <z01d> ^^
[09:48] <blazemore> carlosllugo: What have you tried?
[09:49] <abem> ActionParsnip: does this help? VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780M/RS780MN [Mobility Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[09:49] <carlosllugo> downloaded the official drivers from amd, and tried installing fglrx, then acutally running the drivers but it never works
[09:49] <alansaul> Hey guys, is there anyway to have nose look in every .py file looking for unittests ?
[09:50] <carlosllugo> I got it working back at 12.04 beautifully but for 12.10 its a mess
[09:50] <alansaul> if I do nosetest it segmentation faults, but if i do nosetests -w folder1/unit-test.py it works fine (but only on that file)
[09:50] <user01> TJ-, i also do not see where the rsa key would be entered in that config
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> abem: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[09:51] <moon33> blazemore i'll give freenas a try
[09:51] <kiwif_000_> Hi!
[09:51] <kiwif_000_> anyone here have time to explain how to dual boot windows 8 with ubuntu 12.10 ?
[09:51] <moon33> runs from usb anyway
[09:51] <TJ-> user01: " It is possible to get, install and run network connect completely without Java" and for the keys, in "~/.juniper_networks/network_connect/config"
[09:52] <blazemore> kiwif_000_: Install Windows 8, then install Ubuntu
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_:  http://tinyurl.com/cuocpt9
[09:52] <kiwif_000_> got 8 installed but i read something about making some partitions before
[09:52] <TJ-> user01: That doesn't solve your dynamic IP issue though. Just thought you'd like to know you can avoid the web-browser java plug-in authentication
[09:53] <cloudy> carlosllugo, Have a look at the following site: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> abem: ati 2xxx to 4xxx GPUs have issues with teh Xorg in Quantal, you will need this guide to install a legacy driver to make it work well: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Viewer/Ubuntu-12-10-with-legacy-AMD-ATI-cards-to-play-SL/td-p/1708327
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: can windows 8 resize it's own partitions like Windows 7 can?
[09:54] <kiwif_000_> i dont know
[09:54] <carlosllugo> cloudy thanks, im looking in to it now
[09:54] <kiwif_000_> i use to have ubuntu only but now i got a new pc with windows 8
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: use disk manager (after running a full backup) and make some unpartitioned space. You can then install to that.
[09:54] <cloudy> carlosllugo, just following the links for Ubuntu. It is a lot of material but makes a nice read
[09:55] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, disk manager here on windows?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: yes
[09:56] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, ok
[09:57] <tokinwhiteman> Hi, I installed 12.10 desktop amd_64. After I installed the experimental nvidia driver Unity won't load. I can get to the termimal, what would the command be to revert back to the original non propietary drivers?
[09:57] <carlosllugo> cloudy, I will, also another question I have Core™ i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz quadcore, but for some reason sometimes my cpu usage spike all the way to 98% and the systems becomes unberable to use (something that again did not happen on 12.04) is there a way I can trouble shoot why this is happening?
[09:57] <TJ-> user01: A possible solution would be to get yourself a (free) micro AWS EC2 host instance, configure it as a proxy, and use it to relay your connections. Although if it gets stopped/started it could also change its IP. You can get static IPs in some of the paid-for services.
[09:58] <cloudy> carlosllugo, open a terminal and type: top
[09:58] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, shrink the volume?
[09:58] <carlosllugo> done
[09:58] <carlosllugo> cloudy: done*
[09:59] <cloudy> carlosllugo, this will give you a list of open applications and you can see the cpu usage of the individual applications
[09:59] <carlosllugo> cloudy: also have a syspeek windown open
[09:59] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, hey how many partitions its recommendes to make, i read something about installing the boot on a single partition
[09:59] <cloudy> carlosllugo, ok - sorry, I've never used it.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: you'll need at least 2 for Ubuntu, '/' and 'swap'
[10:00] <carlosllugo> cloudy: ok I've type top in terminal and Im seeing all the process that are running on the system so far
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: if you just make free space, the installer will partition the space for you]
[10:01] <TJ-> carlosllugo: By default, the list from 'top' is sorted by CPU usage, so if a process spikes you should see it listed at the top of that list immediately
[10:01] <bigmeow> hi all
[10:02] <bigmeow> what is the command to know when a certain package is installed?
[10:02] <TJ-> Carlinhos: Also, as the CPU is multi-core, it might help to expand the per-core stats in the header area by pressing the 1 (one) key
[10:02] <cloudy> carlosllugo, in the white bar towards the center you see %CPU, that shows the CPU usage of the different applications. It is updated every 2 seconds, I think.
[10:02] <TJ-> oops, that was for carlosllugo
[10:03] <carlosllugo> TJ: if I spot a process thats going haywire, in there a way to say control that process for example if i right click an app in unity menu the system will bug down brutally is there a way that I can pinpoint why its doing that?
[10:03] <carlosllugo> TJ: is there*
[10:04] <tokinwhiteman> Hi, I installed 12.10 desktop amd_64. After I installed the experimental nvidia driver Unity won't load. I can get to the termimal, what would the command be to revert back to the original non propietary driver?
[10:04] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, ok ok, let me get this so i dont mess it up hehehe, i got a new toshiba lap, it comes with a 750 gb hd, right now it justa has windows 8 installed, so what i got to do is make a partition for ubuntu, (like, 100 gb for windows and 500 for ubuntu) after that, the instalattion cd will make all the partitions i need (including the boot one?)
[10:05] <brontosaurusrex> what else is there in cli besides find and locate for searching things?
[10:05] <carolinemathis> Blabloups
[10:06] <cloudy> brontosaurusrex, whereis
[10:06] <cloudy> brontosaurusrex, which
[10:07] <rumpe1> brontosaurusrex, grep
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: I suggest a small one for Ubuntu, Not onli is Windows stupidly bloated, but NTFS can also be written to by Ubuntu
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: why do you need more than locate :)
[10:09] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip: i think locate is not default in other distros?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: possibly, find will more than likely be present
[10:10] <tokinwhiteman> Anyone?
[10:10] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, ok like how much for ubuntu? and what about the instalation cd thing, it is going to make the partition needed to install the boot?
[10:10] <killer> i installed ubuntu 12.04 but install release option is still showing
[10:10] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip: right
[10:10] <tokinwhiteman> are you booting to the harddrive?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: 100Gb will be more than enough. My / partition is less than 4Gb used will all the codecs and a full graphical desktop etc
[10:11] <yarinse> 12. 04 ó 12. 01. which has more support in year?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: try removing all nvidia packages, then install the nvidia-current package
[10:11] <tokinwhiteman> i can't get to a GUI
[10:11] <rumpe1> yarinse, 12.04. Also you meant 12.10 (there is no 12.01)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | grep -v nvidia-common     uninstall and/or purge those packages
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: do it in root recovery console then
[10:11] <brontosaurusrex> how do i get the age of locate databse?
[10:12] <brontosaurusrex> database*
[10:12] <tokinwhiteman> do a apt-remove?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: you installed 'experimental' drivers...what were you expecting...
[10:12] <tokinwhiteman> *facepalm i know
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: apt-get --purge remove
[10:12] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, ok, how many partitions i have to make? just one with 100 gb or less for /?
[10:12] <tokinwhiteman> kk
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: leave one lump of freed space then boot to the installer
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: if you see any nvidia packages with 'rc' on the left. use:  sudo dpkg -P packagename
[10:13] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, i red something about making a /home partition its a good idea
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: leave the nvidia-common package installed
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: it can be, yes. Makes backups and reinstalls easier
[10:13] <overclucker> brontosaurusrex: if you mean date of last modification: ls -l /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db
[10:14] <brontosaurusrex> overclucker: thanks
[10:16] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, ok im dowloading a partition software rith now , im goign to make a / partition with 50 gb, a /home partition with 500 and leave windows with 200, then when im on ubuntu installer, the installer its goind to make a partition to install the boot on a dif place than MBR right?
[10:18] <tokinwhiteman> what does that do? I am about to apt-get --purge remove
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: does the WIn8 not have the feature to resize NTFS?
[10:18] <tokinwhiteman> should i still do that? the remove? there are 2 labeled with li on the left side
[10:18] <ct529> hi everybody. How do you check which application or process is using the disk? I need to identify disk overuse.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: you'll only need abot 20Gb for a standard desktop OS
[10:19] <tokinwhiteman> just remove those then do dpkg -P nvidia-current-updates?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: you may need to put Ubuntu in logical partitions to overcome the maximum of 4 primary partitions issue
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: if it has 'rc' on the left colomn, yes
[10:20] <tokinwhiteman> kk, roger that
[10:20] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, ok, logila partitions, got it, but im a lil bit confused on the space on every partition thing, the 20 gb you mentioned are for wich partition?
[10:22] <Birliban> Hi I'm new to multiuser ubuntu ;-) I need to add an user that can only read and write into his home directory - nowhere else. how to manage this?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kiwif_000_: '/' this will let you use the rest for '/home'
[10:23] <TJ-> Birliban: Without the user being able to read other locations, the user will not be able to run programs
[10:23] <tokinwhiteman> So ActionParsnip, did that just reinstall the nvidia-current driver then?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Birliban: that is default
[10:23] <kiwif_000_> ActionParsnip, ok thanks,
[10:23] <tokinwhiteman> BTW its working, thanks! :) shower this mans reddit account with karma.
[10:24] <Birliban> TJ-, in detail I just want to give this user an remote svn repo where only he is storing his code
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: not something I use, but no problem dude :)
[10:25] <TJ-> Birliban: Then, as ActionParsnip said, the defaults are basically fine *but* you should consider setting a restricted shell for that user that only allows use of the svn tools
[10:26] <Birliban> TJ-, ok, and how to do this?
[10:26] <Birliban> TJ-, but, when i log in as this user, i can read e.g. /etc/crontab
[10:27] <TJ-> Birliban: See the package !rssh
[10:28] <TJ-> !rssh
[10:28] <llutz_> !rbash
[10:28] <TJ-> Has ubottu got anmesia?
[10:29] <TJ-> Birliban: See http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/rssh
[10:29] <tsimpson> !info rssh | TJ-, Birliban
[10:29] <tsimpson> it works when you use it correctly ;)
[10:30] <TJ-> tsimpson: hahaha of course! On my own supybot it has dispensed with requiring "info"
[10:30] <Birliban> ok, thanks @all
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Birliban: if you want to properly lock folks down then remove access for the 'all' group, then ONLY the owner has acess
[10:36] <Birliban> ActionParsnip, ok, will try this
[10:37] <ct529> hi everybody. How do you check which application or process is using the disk (and what partition it uses)? I need to identify some disk "overuse". I would love to do it using CLI.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> ct529: lsof   can show open files, if you grep for the mount point you can see what files are open on which partition (if that helps)
[10:40] <gordonjcp> ct529: iotop?
[10:40] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I have tried using lsof .... how would you use it to identify a specific process working on a disk or a partition?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> ct529: is there an iotop ?
[10:40] <ct529> gordonjcp: don't know about that .... :-) .... wait, I am reading man
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> !info iotop
[10:42] <ct529> gordonjcp: ActionParsnip: I am intalling it now, will be back in a sec
[10:46] <ct529> gordonjcp: ActionParsnip: seems interesting, thanks, I am trying to do accumulated monitoring, let's see what is wrong with it.
[10:59] <tkkrlab-bar>  /j #tkkrlab
[11:00] <garrett_irc> :-D
[11:01] <markos__> te
[11:01] <markos__> st
[11:03] <tutu> hello all
[11:07] <ct529> gordonjcp: ActionParsnip: iotop seems very useful .... do not know whether there is something equivalent that I can use at boot time?
[11:08] <dr_willis> bootchart? i recall is handy.
[11:08] <lumious> Hello :)
[11:08] <dr_willis> !info bootchart
[11:09] <lumious> If support for my Ubuntu version has ended, will updating my sources.list file solve the problem?
[11:10] <dr_willis> you upgrade to a newer release
[11:10] <dr_willis> !eol
[11:11] <dr_willis> that may involve altering  the sources.list and more.
[11:12] <lumious> Thanks
[11:13] <lumious> With apt-pinning, will this work: http://paste2.org/p/2467564 ? Ignore the Debian part, I'm just asking if the syntax is correct.
[11:15] <gordonjcp> ct529: bootchart maybe?
[11:16] <ct529> gordonjcp: I have tried that, but I cannot make sense of the output ....
[11:16] <ct529> gordonjcp: I cannot identify the problem .... 2m at startup + overuse of the disk ar equite limiting
[11:17] <stobix> Ehm. Do I need to use gnome-keyring to use svn via ssh? I get something in the lines of "could not connect to /run/users/myname/keyring-randomletters/blah" when running svn checkout https://blah/blah --username myname, and no password prompt shows up
[11:17] <gordonjcp> ct529: how much memory have you got?
[11:18] <ct529> 8GB
[11:19] <blackshirt> wow
[11:20] <gordonjcp> ct529: it's likely not swapping then
[11:20] <dr_willis> wow? bah - even cellphones got 8gb o-ram these days. ;)
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: wow what?
[11:20] <ct529> gordonjcp: no, it is not the swap
[11:21] <ct529> gordonjcp: it seems to be the btfrs file system that is taking next to forever
[11:21] <dr_willis> hmm. havent heard much about btrfs lately. ;)
[11:22] <Jordan_U> ct529: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:22] <ct529> Jordan_U: 12.04
[11:22] <ct529> Jordan_U: 64bit
[11:22] <gordonjcp> ct529: btrfs does suck for that
[11:22] <ct529> gordonjcp: what do you mean?
[11:22] <Jordan_U> ct529: If you are using btrgs, you should be using the latest stable (or even rc) kernel.
[11:23] <ct529> Jordan_U: why? I have the latest stable kernel for 12.04
[11:23] <dr_willis> you can enable verbose  logging also i recall via  somthing like 'noquiet nosplash text verbose'
[11:23] <Jordan_U> ct529: Because btrfs is still under heavy development (and is still experimental).
[11:24] <dr_willis> in the grub configs. that may show if somthing like networking or other services aer hanging. but i think it may be  btrfs at fault.
[11:25] <Jordan_U> ct529: Normally we recommend using the kernel shipped with Ubuntu, but for btrfs you really should be running the latest code (and for that and other reasons we don't yet recommend btrfs for machines you depend on).
[11:27] <Jordan_U> ct529: You can get a 3.7 rc5 kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7-rc5-raring/ , though that's built for raring rather than precise which might cause problems.
[11:28] <ct529> Jordan_U: I will not take the risk, if you do not mind.
[11:28] <ct529> Jordan_U: I'd rathr re compile myself.
[11:28] <Jordan_U> ct529: That's fine.
[11:29] <Jordan_U> ct529: But be sure to stay up to date.
[11:29] <ct529> gordonjcp: do you know of existing problems of that kind with btrfs? I could move to zfs ....
[11:32] <giuseppe__> matrix
[11:33] <Edijus> Hello. Ubuntu 11.04. I shared folder with user group. I logged in as different user. Where is the folder i shared?
[11:36] <k-stz> is there a channel specially for ubuntu LTS
[11:38] <k-stz> anyone familiar with ubuntu 12.04LTS on a thinkpad x61?
[11:38] <aeon-ltd> k-stz: what's the problem?
[11:42] <k-stz> aeon-ltd: just collecting intelligence, cause on my main machine the switch from 10.04 to 12.04 didn't work smoothly. I would like to use the newest lts on laptop
[11:42] <Edijus> Hello. Ubuntu 11.04. I shared folder with user group. I logged in as different user. Where is the folder i shared?
[11:43] <ct529> gordonjcp: can you read and understand bootchart output really well?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> k-stz: i'd just clean install then. Restore user data from backup
[11:52] <tastycakeman> hello! i am a ubuntunoob
[11:53] <tastycakeman> if i am installing openssl from source
[11:53] <tastycakeman> and i am downloading the package
[11:53] <tastycakeman> do i just run ./config, make, and make install from wherever i unpackage it?
[11:53] <tastycakeman> or do i have to move it into /usr/bin/ssl or something like that/
[11:53] <rumpe1> tastycakeman, first of all: why do want to install it that way?
[11:54] <tastycakeman> I've been having issues with using openssl
[11:54] <tastycakeman> and i saw that an update is supposed to fix it?
[11:54] <rumpe1> tastycakeman, which kind of issues?
[11:54] <rumpe1> tastycakeman, are you sure it will fix it?
[11:54] <tastycakeman> I'm working on setting up a rails environment
[11:54] <tastycakeman> of which I am also new too
[11:54] <tastycakeman> but it's been giving me this error a few times
[11:55] <tastycakeman> this is the particular update: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.1-4ubuntu5
[11:57] <paulsomebody> Hi, I am going nuts here. What command can I use to run a binary file from Terminal? When I do the obvious, that is 'sudo sh ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin' when in the correct folder it says 'Syntax error: "(" unexpected'. What I am doing wrong, if anything?
[11:58] <paulsomebody> Well, wrong aside from installing Adobe Air on GNU/Linux.
[11:59] <Flyzoola> guys, I really REALLY need help. I was upgrading my 8.04 to 10.04 and right after it finished >Getting new packages, it gave me an error which more or less said that a file couldn't be installed or upgraded (I read amarok in there) and that the upgrade would still continue, so I pressed said ok. Right after that I got this
[12:00] <Flyzoola> Could not install the upgrades
[12:00] <Flyzoola> The upgrade is now aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a). Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bug report.
[12:00] <invariant> paulsomebody, try without the sh
[12:00] <jrib> Flyzoola: and then?
[12:00] <paulsomebody> Okay, thank you invariantr — the joke is on me.
[12:00] <Flyzoola> and then I get a list, which has this
[12:00] <Flyzoola> E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100),
[12:00] <paulsomebody> invariant, I have forgotten to make it executable.
[12:01] <jrib> Flyzoola: you need to pastebin full output
[12:01] <Flyzoola> and then it just repeats the (100) a crapload of times
[12:01] <Flyzoola> I can't access ANY software
[12:01] <Flyzoola> except for this and I don't know how it still up
[12:01] <Flyzoola> and I can't select all the (100)'s
[12:02] <jrib> Flyzoola: stop pressing enter please.  Just copy the entire output and pastebin it
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:02] <Flyzoola> jrib, you don't understand. I can't get into anything. Not even nautilus, much less a web browser
[12:03] <jrib> Flyzoola: what's update manager proposing now?
[12:03] <Flyzoola> I can't see, the error box is expanded beyond my screen
[12:03] <jrib> heh
[12:03] <Flyzoola> and I can make it smaller or maximize it
[12:03] <shojo> move it
[12:03] <jrib> Flyzoola: can you login at a tty (ctrl-alt-f1)?  Use ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X
[12:04] <Cybwoti> hi, lurkin, this is very interesting...please continue
[12:05] <Flyzoola> shojo, I can't move it up, it wont go past the top taskbar. jrib: I just pressed those keys and nothing happened.
[12:06] <jrib> Flyzoola: do you have a laptop perhaps?  Or some keyboard with a strange f-key layout
[12:06] <shojo> FlyOnZeWall: is a lower corner on the screen? You can drag that up and make it smaller
[12:06] <jrib> Flyzoola: which keys did you press exactly?
[12:07] <Flyzoola> jrib: I can count at least fourty :Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100), I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and then +f7.
[12:07] <Flyzoola> shojo, the lower corner is past the lower taskbar, I literally cannot make it smaller or bigger
[12:08] <Cybwoti> nice shortcuts...works on my sys
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: tried the synaptic package fix command list?
[12:08] <shojo> yeah Ctrl+Alt+F7 made my black screen disappear, the one i got pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1
[12:08] <jrib> Flyzoola: press ONLY ctrl-alt-f1
[12:08] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, I don't know what that is. I'm going to take a picture of the screen with my phone and show you guys
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: run the commands one after another in step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[12:09] <shojo> i just don't know how you are typing , FlyOnZeWall , if your whole screen is covered by a box
[12:09] <Cybwoti> black screen is tty
[12:09] <shojo> FlyOnZeWall: that;s a great idea!
[12:11] <YokoBR> hey guys, still can't enable my gpu 3d accel. :(]
[12:12] <NimeshNeema> sorry if it sound's off-topic but can anyone suggest me a free first person shooter game to play on ubuntu ?
[12:12] <jrib> NimeshNeema: nexuiz?
[12:12] <jrib> !games | NimeshNeema
[12:13] <NimeshNeema> thanks jrib
[12:13] <Cybwoti> http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubuntu_games.htm
[12:14] <YokoBR> please guys, could someone help me configuring my ati gpu on ubuntu 12.10?
[12:14] <bloony> what package is the __git_ps1 part of? I'm getting "__git_ps1: command not found"
[12:16] <Guest34558> Hello
[12:16] <Guest34558> anyone have UDP DDOS script for linux ?
[12:17] <Flyzoola> jrib, shojo, ActionParsnip: http://www.imgur.com/YNR3V.JPG
[12:17] <jrib> Guest34558: that's not something we discuss here
[12:17] <jrib> Flyzoola: file not found
[12:18] <Guest34558> anyone have UDP DDOS script for linux ?
[12:18] <jrib> Guest34558: what did I just say?
[12:18] <Touhou11> Guest34558: Send a pm to Mark Shuttelworth, he "has root" over your installation
[12:19] <jrib> Flyzoola: ok your link works with a lowercase "jpg".  Just close the error window, can you do that?
[12:19] <paulsomebody> How do I apply permission to files and folders recursively from CLI? Nautilus seems to do this horribly wrong, somehow.
[12:19] <Flyzoola> let me recheck the address, sorry it's on my pnone. The address is: http://www.imgur.com/YNR3V.jpg
[12:19] <jrib> paulsomebody: chmod -R .  What exactly are you doing?
[12:20] <Flyzoola> jrib, no I can't close the error window, it has no close click on the top corner and I can't "ok" the error, because it's waaaay down there
[12:20] <jrib> Flyzoola: try to tab to the button and then hit enter or space, or alt-f4
[12:21] <paulsomebody> jrib: I am trying to make my user owner of all files and folders in the directory '~/.ynab'; Nautilus does not do that even when I click 'Apply permissions to all enclosed files'.
[12:21] <paulsomebody> jrib: Which is very strange.
[12:21] <aj24> ho
[12:21] <aj24> hi
[12:21] <aj24> hello,
[12:21] <aj24> I need your help
[12:21] <aj24> I'm making a project, a video with some videos in the world
[12:21] <aj24> Everything is explained in this site  http://www.whyrem.com/
[12:21] <FloodBot1> aj24: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:21] <jrib> paulsomebody: ok.  Then you want to use chown -R
[12:21] <Flyzoola> jrib, I'm gonna try to re-install it. It says upgrade complete "but there were errors during the upgrade process"
[12:22] <Flyzoola> I'm sorry, reboot it*, not re-install
[12:22] <Touhou11> paulsomebody: Nautilus behaviour in that case makes sense if you understand the way permissions work
[12:22] <Touhou11> paulsomebody: It's not a bug
[12:22] <paulsomebody> Touhou11: I used to think that I understood that.
[12:22] <jrib> Flyzoola: well, come back on another computer if it fails to boot
[12:22] <paulsomebody> I think I still do.
[12:23] <Flyzoola> I'll see if there's an irc app for my phone worse come the worst. Thanks everyone.
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: did you try the command list I gave?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> YokoBR: which ATi GPU do you have?
[12:24] <jrib> ActionParsnip: he said he couldn't open a terminal
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> jrib: can boot to root recovery?
[12:24] <jrib> ActionParsnip: I guess he'll find out now :P
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnZeWall: : can boot to root recovery?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> jrib: seems to have gone
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnZeWall: sorry, wrong target
[12:26] <paulsomebody> jrib: Thank you for the help, it worked splendidly. I just don't get this sarcastic "if you understand how permissions work" on the part of Touhou11. How typing in CLI 'sudo chown somebody /home/somebody/.ynab -R' is different from the pressing before mentioned button in the Nautilus ran with root privileges when in ~/.ynab'?
[12:26] <dakira> Hey. I found a problem with the "live-cd" and I don't know against which package I should report it. Is there a channel where I could discuss this bug with someone (it is a bit more complicated).
[12:26] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, hybrid hd 4200 and hd 6310. Amd/ Ati..  now i've found a guide telling me to edit grub and add "nomodeset" and install linux-headers-generic
[12:26] <jrib> paulsomebody: I don't know
[12:27] <ero-jiji> hello all, just to verify if i use fsck without any options, it checks all drives correct?
[12:27] <paulsomebody> jrib: It seemed to me as well, that these two are work absolutely the same way.
[12:27] <jalexandru> Hi, I have a list of commends I need to pass to the terminal how can I make an executable file that will throw thowes commands to the terminal?
[12:27] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, i also saw this http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[12:28] <paulsomebody> jrib: Perhaps someone wanted to have this "I am mystic condescending Linux guru" feeling just before leaving the channel to avoid further questions.
[12:28] <paulsomebody> jrib: Thank you again for the help.
[12:28] <lumious> Can /etc/apt/sources.list be used to transition from LTS to regular packages?
[12:30] <jrib> lumious: what do you mean by "transition from LTS to regular packages"?
[12:30] <Cybw0tee> ...
[12:30] <alinmear> does anybody know how to echo some text for the very start of a terminal?
[12:31] <Flyzoola> Jrib, well it hangs at the screen before the splash screen. capslock and scroll lock flashing
[12:31] <jrib> Flyzoola: try booting recovery mode.  If the latest kernel's recovery mode doesn't work, try an earlier one
[12:32] <ero-jiji> hello all, just to verify if i use fsck without any options, it checks all drives correct? if not how would i go about checking 20 drives without having to go 1 by one?
[12:32] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, no deal... rebooted and still no 3D :(
[12:34] <rumpe1> alinmear, hmm... /etc/motd (?)
[12:34] <Cybw0tee> alinmear _like a MOTD or what
[12:34] <sarthor> Hi, I need some linux based free opensource software for Cargo System that support multiple terminals, Any Idea??
[12:34] <_jmz_> can anyone help me out with hotlinking protection?  I have literally gone through 50 diff guides for mod_rewrite.  I even tried a python script but it just denies access to everything.  running ubuntu server with apache
[12:35] <sarthor> If this is not the appropriate channel for asking this kind of question. So please rediect me to the right place. Thanks.
[12:36] <Cybw0tee> http://www.howtogeek.com/104708/how-to-customize-ubuntus-message-of-the-day/
[12:37] <Cybw0tee> Alinmear if you explain more detail, I may be able to customize my reply to your question
[12:38] <Flyzoola> Jrib, I tried the 5 versions and all give me kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill innit
[12:38] <cookie1980> alinmear, did you mean a bashrc like script perhaps?
[12:39] <jrib> Flyzoola: boot a live cd
[12:39] <jrib> Flyzoola: and to be clear, you tried *recovery mode*, correct?
[12:39] <Guest34558> anyone have UDP DDOS script for linux ?
[12:39] <Guest34558> ?
[12:39] <alinmear> i want to open a terminal (urxvt) and  when the terminal spawns the should be some kind of text befor you can type some command
[12:39] <Flyzoola> I think I might be acr
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> YokoBR: yeah if you have a 2xxx to 4xxx GPU then you'll need the older driver
[12:40] <alinmear> similar to the archbang behaviour
[12:40] <alinmear> their you can open a terminal and the archlinux logo with some cpu specs pops up
[12:40] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, but what about the hd 6310?
[12:40] <cookie1980> alinmear, what shell are you using?
[12:41] <Cybw0tee> sarthor whats your Q.
[12:41] <alinmear> i am using the bash shell at the moment
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> YokoBR: you can use the normal fglrx in the repos with that, the driver with the XOrg version in 12.10 causes issues
[12:41] <cookie1980> ok, edit ~/.bashrc and add at the end something like echo This is my cool text
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> alinmear: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:41] <Flyzoola> Jrib I think im Screwed, I tried recovery mode, got that message. My cd srive doeant work and my pc doeant boot through usb..
[12:42] <Carlinhos> My qt apps have huge scrollbars in Xfce: http://gyazo.com/822fb37274c312d9121a774dd575fd7f How can I get a more uniform look?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnZeWall: can you boot to root recovery mode?
[12:42] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, okay, i'll try that, thanks
[12:42] <Cybw0tee> yep its motd...the howtogeek.com link is nice for you Alinmear
[12:42] <sarthor> what piece of software I can use for Cargo business? Cybw0tee
[12:43] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, I dont know how to do that.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: its all text so ANY video setup can show it :)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: run the commands in the link I gave
[12:45] <yote> im using UbuntuStudio 12.10. How do i not encrypt my home directory.
[12:47] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, I need the link or ideally the command, as I'm on my phone and this is very hard
[12:47] <cookie1980> yote, try truecrypt
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure step 5
[12:49] <ero-jiji> hello all, just to verify if i use fsck without any options, it checks all drives correct? if not how would i go about checking 20 drives without having to go 1 by one? its a remote server that i only have ssh and ftp access to
[12:51] <cookie1980> it will check every entry from /etc/fstab
[12:52] <alinmear> now i can answer my question on my own! first the bashrc open a script called archbey in /usr/bin thats it
[12:52] <alinmear> thx for help
[12:52] <ero-jiji> @cookie thanks thats what i needed, so a simple shutdown -F -r should check them all on boot right?
[12:52] <alinmear> btw
[12:53] <cookie1980> ero-jiji, that´s correct
[12:54] <tbjr> I have 2 admin accounts but only one of the accounts can see the other partitions on the OS drive or the second harddrive I've installed.  I've started nautilus as root and tried changing the permissions of the volumes but they don't stay changed.
[12:54] <ero-jiji> @cookie awesome, i wanted to be sure before i screwed up the server and lost 8tb of crap lol
[12:54] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip, it says "error 27" unrecognized command
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: at what point?
[12:55] <Flyzoola> Sudo grep -R proxy /etc/apt/* (first command)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: that's fine, its just for innformation. Keep going
[12:58] <cnf> there really isn't a single nice irc client on linux, is there :/
[12:59] <tarzeau> irssi
[12:59] <tarzeau> yes there is, and it's better inside gnu screen
[12:59] <TuxLof> irssi
[12:59] <TheLordOfTime> cnf, irssi, xchat, there's quite a few others.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> cnf: pidgin or irssi imho
[12:59] <cnf> TheLordOfTime: i said nice
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> cnf: define 'nice'
[12:59] <TheLordOfTime> cnf, nice is a relative term.
[12:59] <TuxLof> I find my irssi very nice
[12:59] <cnf> and screen isn't nice
[12:59] <TheLordOfTime> no two people have the same opinion on 'nice'
[12:59] <Pici> best
[12:59] <Pici> !best
[12:59] <tarzeau> screen is nice, except for nethack
[12:59] <Kaco> cnf, is there any nice app for Linux? :)
[12:59] <cnf> irssi is functional, not nice :P
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> cnf: pidgin uses the desktp theme
[13:00] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip, same with second step. I replaced sudo for root and got unrecognized device string
[13:00] <Kaco> cnf, your only option is to move to OS X
[13:00] <cnf> Kaco: not a whole lot, no...
[13:00] <TuxLof> lol
[13:00] <rds__> hai guys , I want to solve this problem , the problem is I want to install a app from source when I tried to install that app it say that it need valac-0.16 but when I tried to install valac from terminal it is only installing valac-0.14 older version. Then I try to download the new version of valac-0.16 and try to install it , but it show the dependency is not satisfied  , but it is killing me when i install the next dependency they say it need another depende
[13:00] <rds__> ncy it is going like a loop so my question is , how can I install new version of a app that not in repo and including all dependency
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: root isn't a command
[13:00] <cnf> Kaco: at home, i have osx, at work i'm stuck with linux
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: you can simply omit sudo and it will run
[13:00] <TuxLof> Oh man that sucks
[13:00] <Kaco> cnf that's pretty bad :) ... bring your iPad to work :-D
[13:01] <cnf> Kaco: haha, i do!
[13:01] <cnf> it's right next to me
[13:01] <ero-jiji> cookie1980 thanks again, that got it.
[13:01] <Kaco> cnf, so why you no IRC on iPad? :)
[13:01] <TuxLof> http://www.andchat.net/
[13:01] <TuxLof> oh wait. that's android. nvm
[13:01] <cnf> Kaco: i do, just not all the time
[13:01] <Flyzoola> The commands don't work. I was using unu 8.04
[13:01] <cnf> anyway, zfs meeting, brb
[13:02] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, fglrx didn't gave me 3D also :(
[13:02] <Flyzoola> Ub untu 8.04
[13:02] <cookie1980> ero-jiji, you're welcome
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> cnf: http://static.dossy.org/images/2007/08/pidgin-irc-chat-before-patch.png   is how I roll IRC
[13:03] <lumious> jrib, I mean that I change all my repositories from an LTS release to a regular release, and then update my system
[13:03] <Flyzoola> Looks like im screwed
[13:03] <MrMagic_> how do you change the close minimize and maximize from the left top corner to the right top corner? it makes me angry
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:05] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip anything else I can do? :(
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: if you are using Unity, it makes sense to have ity on the left
[13:05] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, says precise but isn't there like a setting that you just change?  i
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: run each command but drop the word sudo from each command, that's all you have to do. ONe command will take a long time
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: yes, its just a setting
[13:06] <tbjr> do I need to change the permissions on a volume so that others logging on to the computer can see and mount them?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124015/window-controls-moved-to-right-hand-side
[13:07] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, fond it polesmoker
[13:07] <Flyzoola> actionparsnip, every command I use says its incorrect
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> tbjr: add the option:  user   in the entry you have for it in /etc/fstab
[13:07] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, trying to make me run cli commands dude heh
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: you must type it EXACTLY as given, with the spaces and so forth
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: dop you have web access in the root recovery console (try and ping 8.8.8.8)?
[13:08] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[13:08] <tbjr> ActionParsnip, otherwise it will only show up for the original admin account?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: there are many ways, the GUIs are just pretty GUIs to CLI, so why not
[13:08] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, one moment and I'll explain
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> tbjr: no, they will only be mountable by those that can use sudo
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/itdojo/ubuntu-1204-tweaks-re-enable-hibernate-move-the-window-buttons-more/3326
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/tips-and-tricks-ubuntu-after-installation-ubuntu-1204.htm
[13:09] <tbjr> ActionParsnip, It's not listed in the fstab but all volumes are automatically mounted in my (original) account
[13:09] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, what was the purpose of the first command you had me run? the solution seems to not depend on it
[13:10] <dr_willis> mounted on first access you mean.
[13:10] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip, I have grub 1.5 those commands aren't working for me
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> tbjr: then you will need to define it in /etc/fstab if you want to use specific mount options
[13:10] <tbjr> dr_willis, yes
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: i haven't given a command, I gave URLs
[13:11] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, here is how the question should have gone "How do you change the buttons from left top corner to right?" "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close'"
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: run that in a terminal and it should do it
[13:11] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, lsb-release -sc? heck is that for?
[13:11] <Chadmuck> hi
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: tells you the release name you are using
[13:11] <tbjr> ActionParsnip, ok I have a path to research now.  Thank you.
[13:12] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, you are a DN...and that rhymes with thumb trigger
[13:12] <dr_willis> if you want total control controll of mounting you want to use the fstab.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: I don't support or talk to racists, grow up and get an education please
[13:12] <tbjr> dr_willis, Thank you
[13:12] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, ok bone-in-the-nose-jig
[13:12] <TheLordOfTime> !attitude | MrMagic954
[13:13] <harrypotter2> hi...
[13:13] <compdoc> when I remove a drive thats mounted in fstab, the boot halts and waits until I press S to continue the boot. Any way to automat that, so it continues the boot on its own?
[13:14] <TheLordOfTime> compdoc, not put the drive in fstab?
[13:14] <fairuz> compdoc: remove the entry from fstab
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: add the option:  noauto   you can add the command to mount the partition in /etc/rc.local and you should be ok
[13:14] <compdoc> if a drive fails and a server reboots, having it hang there forever isnt a good idea
[13:15] <harrypotter2> how to convert dynamic to basic hd
[13:15] <dunnicli> Mr_Magic - http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[13:15] <gastly> Hi, is it possible to install both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of a library?
[13:16] <TheLordOfTime> gastly, if you have a 64bit system, you should be able to do apt-get install libpackagename libpackagename:i386
[13:17] <gastly> TheLordOfTime, I'm having a problem with libncurses5-dev, I need both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of it but they both conflict
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> gastly: newer ubuntu releases are multiarch, so yes
[13:19] <gastly> AcidRain2012, If I install libncurses5-dev and libncurses5-dev:i386 there's a conflict between the two :
[13:19] <S0LIDUS> Anyone know of some good terminal system monitors?
[13:19] <InspectorCluseau> eject
[13:19] <InspectorCluseau> oops
[13:20] <tarzeau> S0LIDUS: htop? saidar?
[13:20] <S0LIDUS> tarzeau, Thank you :)
[13:21] <S0LIDUS> tarzeau, Is one better than the other?
[13:21] <Hellier> hi
[13:22] <Hellier> nfi if I am in or not
[13:22] <TheLordOfTime> Hellier, do you have a support question?
[13:23] <Paddy_NI> Hello I know this will sound silly but I have an nvidia gfx card and I would like to know if the recently improved drivers will work for me.. problem is I don't really know what card I have and I am not sure whether or not I should trust lspci..
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: which nvidia gpu do you have?
[13:23] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, I'm not really sure
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: lspci | grep -i vga   will tell you
[13:24] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, NVIDIA Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GS] (rev a1)
[13:25] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, this announcement "http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Delivers-Massive-Performance-Boost-to-Linux-Gaming-8ac.aspx" just seems to point to the downloads page... I am not sure which linux driver I am to download :-(
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: I think its 8xxx and higher if memory serves
[13:27] <Paddy_NI> The download page is very confusing especially when I am not really sure which I need
[13:30] <magesing> Hi, I've downloaded the .iso image for ubuntu 12.10, and I want to make a bootable usb stick, however, I am currently running an old version of Debian, is there somewhere I can download the "startup disk creator" app from? Alterantively are there instructions somewhere on how I can make a startup disk using command line tools? Thanks.
[13:30] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: let me check the page
[13:31] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: 32 or 64 bit?
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> 64 bit
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> I think I got it
[13:31] <auronandace> magesing: you can just dd the iso to the stick
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> I chose "geforce 7 series"
[13:31] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/304.64/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.64.run&lang=us&type=GeForce
[13:32] <dr_willis> magesing:  the pendrive linux site has tools also for that task
[13:32] <Paddy_NI> Erik_D, Awesome that is the one I grabbed :-)
[13:33] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: cool. Good luck, those installers almost never work perfectly first time :P
[13:33] <dr_willis> the xswat ppa may have updatedc versiona in their repos
[13:34] <Erik_D> magesing: dd if=/location/of/isofile.iso of=/dev/whatever_your_usb_is
[13:34] <dr_willis> i thought there was older 310 experimental drivers in the addational-drivers tool
[13:35] <Paddy_NI> Erik_D, :-)
[13:35] <dr_willis> those may get updated sometime soon.
[13:36] <Paddy_NI> dr_willis, Huh.. are you telling me I can get this driver via ppa?
[13:36] <Erik_D> Probably, actually
[13:36] <Erik_D> it's from '09
[13:36] <Erik_D> so they've probably made their way in to repos
[13:36] <magesing> Erik_D: Thanks
[13:37] <dr_willis> Paddy_NI:  xswat, or addational-drivers MAY hav it. :) iver not looked
[13:37] <andrea_> hello, i'm trying to write a script w/ bash that kills a process if hits a threshold of CPU use. Could somebody help me?
[13:37] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: I'm not sure what version is there though
[13:37] <sere84> why do i have 2 swap drives...does ubuntu use 2?
[13:37] <dr_willis> sere84:  you could have a dozen
[13:38] <dr_willis> if the swap partions are setup in fstab. it would use them both
[13:38] <Paddy_NI> okay well I shall return to this once I put a wash on and make some tea :-)
[13:38] <geekbri> andrea_: sounds like a usecase for something like monit/bluepill/god
[13:38] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, i thin the question is why're there two swap partitions
[13:39] <andrea_> geekbri: does bluepill have smth to do with virtualization?
[13:39] <dr_willis> i think output of 'sudo fdisk -l' would be handy
[13:39] <magesing> Erik_D: Do I need to do any special partitioning or formatting of the usb key before I dd the iso image over?
[13:39] <geekbri> andrea_: nah, its just a piece of software written in ruby that ensures a process is running and can also do process and memory checks on it.
[13:39] <dr_willis> magesing:  dd will totally erase the usb. so no
[13:39] <magesing> dr_willis: thanks
[13:39] <Erik_D> ^what he said
[13:40] <Erik_D> she?
[13:40] <Erik_D> ^what they said
[13:40] <dr_willis> magesing:  using a large usb is overkill also. i think a 2 gb is big ennough for the 12.10 iso
[13:40] <dr_willis> 1 gb - im not sure
[13:40] <Erik_D> 1 gb should be
[13:41] <Erik_D> I believe the iso is 800 mb
[13:41] <dr_willis> i dont evn own a 1gb any more. ;)
[13:41] <vril> can anyone tell me why ubuntu never utilizes its swap memory? lol
[13:41] <vril> i mean it never goes over 1GB of ram either.
[13:41] <Erik_D> vril: it does.
[13:41] <dr_willis> vril  its well written ;)
[13:41] <vril> i dont see it though, in system monitor
[13:41] <Erik_D> If you are are doing ram intensive stuff
[13:42] <vril> yeah i know how to do that Erik_D
[13:42] <vril> but im referring to the swap memory itself
[13:42] <vril> even when ive used up most of my ram, it doesnt show an increase in swap memory
[13:42] <vril> i feel as if the swap partition is just there for decoration lol
[13:43] <Erik_D> Why would you use swap when you have more ram to use?
[13:43] <vril> im accustomed to using a swap partition with any linux distro, from back in the day
[13:43] <Sidewinder> vril, I was under the impression, {mistaken?}, that swap was primarily used for hibernate/sleep types of modes, not sure though..
[13:43] <vril> im not asking to use it, im simply asking why does it keep showing up on 0bytes used for swap
[13:44] <vril> possibly Sidewinder; i did just leave my computer on all night
[13:44] <vril> Sidewinder, i was always under the impression that the swap partition was there to allow the OS to operate faster via virtual memory
[13:45] <KsM> no
[13:45] <dr_willis> swap is used for both.
[13:45] <dr_willis> the hibernate stuff is relatively new use for swap
[13:45] <dr_willis> !swap
[13:45] <vril> not that im a fan of such things, Simon Cray once said "would you rather be pulled by 2 oxens or 128 chickens", in reference to virtual memory
[13:45] <vril> lol
[13:46] <KsM> it's more like "I need the memory for right now and I can go buy more ram later"
[13:46] <dr_willis> 128 chickens will feed you better.  for longer...
[13:46] <vril> thanks dr_willis
[13:46] <Erik_D> vril: https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space/
[13:46] <vril> im talking about being pulled
[13:46] <vril> like on a carriage
[13:46] <vril> its in reference to workload
[13:46] <Sidewinder> dr_willis, Interesting; I wasn't aware of that; thanks, once again, for your time and intuition. :)
[13:46] <vril> 128 chickens will just run around everywhere
[13:46] <vril> lol
[13:46] <dr_willis> so it 'depends on the task/kind of work'
[13:47] <vril> im sure its serves its purpose, ive just never seen it really being utilized
[13:47] <KsM> swap isn't all that slow, but it's typically memory that's not used often that get swapped out (iirc)
[13:47] <dr_willis> i dont evn see swap used on my 8gb ram system.
[13:48] <KsM> You shouldn't
[13:48] <dr_willis> just daily web/video/chat box
[13:48] <dr_willis> now lets not start arguening about swap at the start or end of the hard drive layout.     ;)   seen heated debates on that also
[13:49] <dr_willis> it always comes up.
[13:49] <dr_willis> good old days.
[13:49] <Gnome3man> Is the repositories up in ubuntu unable to do a update
[13:50] <dr_willis> Gnome3man:  worked for me about an hr ago
[13:50] <Gnome3man> dr_willis: will reboot computer might just be my wifi connection
[13:51] <Gnome3man> later
[13:51] <Gnome3man> :)
[13:52] <vril> if you're having a problem with updating you can always switch servers temporarily in synaptic
[13:52] <dr_willis> but...err.. irc is working? ;)
[13:52] <dr_willis> us servers seem to be up for me.
[13:52] <vril> the US ones ive never had a problem with
[13:53] <vril> okay so swap serves an actual good purpose
[13:53] <vril> thanks for the insight guys
[13:53] <vril> was just curious about it, i mean i knew what its meant for but not the whole thing
[13:53] <DarkSim> Everyday I'm learning something new about Linux
[13:53] <DarkSim> :D
[13:54] <vril> yeah
[13:54] <vril> i need to build a server to run Fedora more efficiently
[13:54] <magesing> My current system is set up on a software raid-1 array with seperate / and /home directories. When I run the installer for ubuntu 12.10, will it recognize my software RAID, or will I have to do some extra steps?
[13:54] <dr_willis> the more you learn. the more you learn you have more to learn......
[13:54] <DarkSim> I removed my DE while I was in it, not good
[13:54] <cnf> back!
[13:54] <vril> software raid-1?
[13:54] <magesing> vril: yes
[13:55] <magesing> vril: the mirrored raid, not the striping kind
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim  ctrl-alt-F1, reinstall it or another DE
[13:55] <magesing> vril: mdadm
[13:55] <antithesis> Can /etc/apt/sources.list be used to  change all my repositories from an LTS release to a regular release, and then update my system
[13:56] <Paddy_NI> Okay this nvidia driver installer is complaining that X is running.. How do I stop my xserver ?
[13:56] <vril> magesing i think you have to do some command
[13:56] <vril> yeah
[13:56] <vril> you're doing it right with mdadm
[13:58] <vril> sudo service gdm stop
[13:58] <vril> makes sense
[13:58] <vril> to stop gdm
[13:58] <llutz> antithesis: it can, be sure to have a backup and be prepared that this might not work as you like
[13:58] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, got some kind of 3D accel. with mesa drivers.. open source drivers, right?
[13:59] <Paddy_NI> vril, ah yes of course thanks you
[13:59] <antithesis> thx
[13:59] <vril> i just googled that Paddy_NI
[13:59] <vril> lol
[14:00] <vril> but it does make sense to stop gdm
[14:00] <vril> thats gnome :|
[14:01] <vril> yeah i like redhat compatible distributions more than debian-based ones but im more familiar with ubuntu than anything else
[14:01] <vril> i need to get a box for learning redhat seperately as part of a network environment
[14:01] <vril> since i primarily like using ubuntu as a PC OS
[14:01] <blackshirt> i likes both of them
[14:02] <vril> fedora runs kind of slow on this machine in comparison to ubuntu
[14:02] <TheLordOfTime> vril, or, virtualmachine it :P
[14:02] <vril> actually, not really
[14:02] <vril> i blame Gnome 3
[14:02] <vril> because im actually using backtrack5 with the ubuntu kernel lol
[14:02] <vril> nah, a vm wouldnt suffice
[14:02] <vril> i had them dualbooted
[14:02] <vril> but i want to start up some servers
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> you're aware BT5 isnt on topic in this channel?
[14:03] <vril> fedora is very secure
[14:03] <vril> no, i wasnt? why?
[14:03] <vril> its a ubuntu-based distro, why would it be 'offtopic'
[14:03] <llutz> !backtrack | vril
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> i'm trying to figure out whether you're just talking or actually have a point
[14:03] <STMelon> "based"
[14:03] <vril> im not asking for support on it
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> vril, then what're you asking for?
[14:03] <llutz> !ot | vril  this might apply too
[14:04]  * TheLordOfTime has no backlogs, and deems your test offtopic, like llutz does.
[14:04] <lovre> hi all. i have a silly question. How do i access a network drive on another linux machine, from my linux machine?
[14:04] <blackshirt> what is zeitweis services ?
[14:04] <vril> i only use bt5 because its pretty much the only ubuntu out there with Gnome 2 as the GUI
[14:04] <kluejay> I want to image my netbook's hard drive to a file on an external drive. However the file should be encrypted. I should be able to decrypt and access the file on other computers if the netbook dies.
[14:04] <vril> Gnome 3 is a pain ;/
[14:04] <kernelhack> hi all.
[14:05] <alansaul_> is there anyway to get the nose generator to generate seperate tests? it's just lumping all the yields into one test for me so I can't see the specifics!
[14:05] <kluejay> Preferably, I want a mountable img file inside a truecrypt volume
[14:05] <blackshirt> zeitgeist ...sorry
[14:05] <blackshirt> is that really needed in desktop install ?
[14:06] <vril> make a backup and use truecrypt to encrypt the file
[14:06] <vril> :)
[14:07] <vril> i personally just encrypt a whole partition
[14:07] <vril> with truecrypt
[14:07] <vril> im not really hiding anything
[14:07] <blackshirt> hello
[14:07] <Tns> hello everyone
[14:07] <gordonjcp> kluejay: if you're going to encrypt, make sure you do a full backup every day
[14:07] <blackshirt> hello tns
[14:07] <gordonjcp> kluejay: if the netbook dies, it will be the hard drive that dies first
[14:07] <Tns> Am i true channel for developers ?
[14:08] <Paddy_NI> grr I had stopped my xserver "sudo service gdm stop" then I cd to my Downloads folder then "sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-304.64.run" and nothing happens it just hops to a new line awaiting input again ":~/Downloads$"
[14:08] <blackshirt> tns, i don't think so
[14:08] <blackshirt> tns, this channel was not for developer :d
[14:08] <Tns> i need to communicate with ubuntu developers but
[14:08] <kluejay> gordonjcp: The netbook, filesystem is mostly unencrypted.  I want to weekly save an encrypted image of it.
[14:08] <gordonjcp> kluejay: oh, okay
[14:08] <Tns> i donno how to reach
[14:08] <vril> paddy
[14:08] <blackshirt> tns, ubuntu-devel
[14:09] <gordonjcp> kluejay: dd it off, encrypt the resulting file?
[14:09] <bogor> Some time back, i enabled on screen keyboard. It appears everytime i bootup and appears when i lock the screen. How do i turn off on screen keyboard permanently ?
[14:09] <vril> Paddy_NI, dont you just need to put in ./File.run
[14:09] <vril> instead of all that other stuff in the front
[14:09] <kluejay> gordonjcp: Ok, but how should I mount the dd image after wards. There are 3 partitions on the disk?
[14:09] <alansaul_> is there anyway to have nose generators work properly inside a unittest class?
[14:09] <Paddy_NI> vril, I tried that.. it fails
[14:09] <vril> chmod?
[14:09] <vril> chmod 077
[14:09] <Paddy_NI> hmm
[14:09] <TheLordOfTime> Tns, either the developers mailing list or /join #ubuntu-devel
[14:10] <InspectorCluseau> Paddy_NI, is it executable?
[14:10] <kluejay> gordonjcp: Also I would prefer an rsync kind of update as that would be faster.
[14:10] <gordonjcp> tbh the whole encryption thing in the installer is a bad idea
[14:10] <vril> if he chmod's it it should be executable
[14:10] <Paddy_NI> InspectorCluseau, Ah silly me
[14:10] <gordonjcp> I've never seen quite so many people really keen to lose all their data
[14:10] <InspectorCluseau> doh!
[14:10] <vril> gordonjcp, it depends on how sensitive the information is
[14:10] <vril> and ive decrypted my drive successfully with no problems
[14:11] <Sidewinder> BluesKaj, Good mornin', to you, sir. :)
[14:11] <vril> there's a mere chance of things fumbling for you for encrypting
[14:11] <blackshirt> good night here :d
[14:11] <vril> but the best way to go about it is, dont encrypt a hard drive
[14:11] <vril> encrypt the files
[14:11] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Sidewinder . How's things ?
[14:11] <magesing> Hi, I used dd to initialize a usb key with the latest ubuntu desktop iso image. I can mount the key and browse the files, however, the usb key is not bootable after the dd... do I need to install a bootloader on it or something?
[14:12] <Sidewinder> BluesKaj, Very fine, thank you. And you?
[14:12] <gordonjcp> vril: right but if your drive ever begins to go bad, that data is unrecoverable
[14:12] <vril> magesing, you used unetbootin?
[14:12] <kluejay> gordonjcp: The netbook is always with me and has a hardware password on its HDD. The external backup will be in my house which is kind of an abusive and difficult environment. Since I don't want evidence etc to be read the backup needs to be encrypted.
[14:12] <vril> gordonjcp, thats why i keep a bunch of thumb drives and CF cards lol
[14:12] <magesing> vril: what is unetbootin?
[14:12] <TheLordOfTime> !unetbootin
[14:13] <Sidewinder> BluesKaj, Are you busy now? Would you mind a PM?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> doing fine as well , Sidewinder
[14:13] <vril> unetbootin is to boot up from usb for linux
[14:13] <vril> you can also use it with any other kind of ISO
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder, sure
[14:13] <Sidewinder> Thanx..
[14:13] <magesing> vril: I'm  running a old version of debian, so I don't have the fancy ubuntu utility yet
[14:14] <FireStorms> Hey I'm trying to burn a collection of mp3 files onto a 700MB CD-R. I used Braser to create an "Audio Project" it created the ISO file which ended up being 800MB (100MB too large for the disk). I'm wondering if anyone knows away to shrink the ISO using Brasero or some other "burning" program?
[14:14] <kluejay> gordonjcp: So, its like the netbook is my only computer and its always with me. It contains lots of information that will be indispensable in the future, and should not be accessed by others. Thus I want an encrypted backup on external drive.
[14:14] <TheLordOfTime> FireStorms, if its an 800MB ISO, then you're trying to put too many files onto the disk at once.
[14:14] <vril> oh i see magesing you can still get unetbootin online
[14:15] <vril> it doesnt come with ubuntu regularly
[14:15] <vril> you need to do a sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[14:15] <KI4RO> .
[14:15] <FireStorms> TheLordOfTime, yes, it looks like it's going to be trial and error then which is a shame because I have a lot to do.
[14:15] <magesing> vril:  I'll give that a shot, thanks
[14:15] <vril> or compile it yourself :|
[14:15] <vril> no problem
[14:15] <FireStorms> I don't know if anyone has used Devede but it has an option to adjest the disk size but brasero does not
[14:15] <llutz> magesing: simply "cat foo.iso >/dev/sdX"
[14:18] <hardeep> hi
[14:18] <hardeep> am using kubuntu
[14:18] <hardeep> having problem connecting to net
[14:19] <hardeep> i have a tp-link router and usb adapter
[14:19] <bogor> hardeep: Is it usb dongle 3g/2g connection ?
[14:20] <hardeep> though the signal strenght is full it still doesn't connect
[14:20] <hardeep> can anybody help me
[14:21] <bogor> hardeep: I asked something, look above
[14:21] <hardeep> its a usb wifi adapter
[14:21] <hardeep> it is not connecting to the home router
[14:23] <hardeep> its a wifi adapter
[14:23] <hardeep> it is TL-WN723N
[14:24] <hardeep> though it is connecting to my phone via Wi fi
[14:26] <keith_> Do gnome3 and Unity have the same resolution restrictions based on the hardware? i.e. gnome3 completely fails with total resolution in excess of 2048 pixels, but gnome classic is fine
[14:26] <blackshirt> deve
[14:27] <magesing> vril: unetbootin is doing it's thing, thanks for pointing me to it
[14:33] <kluejay> gordonjcp: When I image the drive should I dd sda1 sda2 sda4 ... or dd sda
[14:33] <kluejay> gordonjcp: And how should I mount the resulting image?
[14:34] <jrib> antithesis: editing sources.list is not a supported way to upgrade.  See ubottu
[14:34] <jrib> !upgrade | antithesis
[14:35] <janet> I wonder how long it would take to run an internet-wide port scan
[14:37] <Touhou11> janet: Depends if you include IPv6 addresses
[14:37] <antithesis> Thanks jrib. Though I actually asked that to get an understanding of sources.list and aptitude
[14:38] <gugurang> Hi, my ubuntu stops at boot time after the logo with the dots below... but when i rstart and choose recovery menu, then choose resume boot, it works... but with lower resolution... anyone?
[14:40] <Touhou11> gugurang: Do your system log files/dmesg etc. suggest any issues?
[14:40] <jrib> antithesis: ok.  In the past (and in debian) that's the way to upgrade.  But update-manager does some extra checking to make sure the update runs smoother
[14:42] <AdvoWork> If i have 2 users who ftp in and upload files, all files were originally owned by root(which has been disabled) so now there is UserA, UserB. The way to allow them to upload files has been to do: chown usera:usera file and they can then upload, but the problem exists because userB can then not upload. Is there a way to allow both users to do it, is it a case of setting up a group?
[14:42] <jrib> AdvoWork: sounds like you'd want to setup a group
[14:43] <Gmind> hi
[14:44] <Gmind> anyone encounter the connection problem on TP LInk Modem ?
[14:45] <taha_> i do. i am not sure it is about TP Link though. I forwarded 8001 port, so here I am.
[14:46] <Gmind> so you must forward the port to be about to connect ?
[14:46] <Gmind> it's modem firmware config or you just config in your linux ?
[14:46] <taha_> type your gateway address at your browser. most probably 192.168.1.1
[14:47] <Gmind> it doesn't matter, I just can't make it work anyway :|
[14:47] <taha_> forwarding tab on the left panel then virtual servers. that's what i did.
[14:47] <Gmind> just if you can say preciously what I can do
[14:48] <Gmind> :-?
[14:48] <taha_> ok
[14:48] <Gmind> wonder if you tried your android device ?
[14:48] <Gmind> I see that unix based os don't have this problem
[14:49] <taha_> the thing is i am on ubuntu. at home i didn't have this connection problem, but today with tplink i couldnt connect at work
[14:54] <janet> I wonder how long it would take to run an internet-wide port scan
[14:54] <vril> okay one question about ubuntu
[14:54] <vril> how do i get gnome 2 back (not MATE)
[14:54] <vril> from a new install
[14:54] <vril> i know i can use the 10.04 cd
[14:54] <vril> then keep updating
[14:55] <janet> ez install gnome 2
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> !gnome2
[14:55] <blup1> hello, i got a question
[14:55] <vril> !notunity
[14:56] <vril> !classic
[14:56] <Gmind> how to I login GUI mode from terminal =.="
[14:56] <vril> startx
[14:56] <vril> type in startx
[14:56] <vril> oh from terminal or cli?
[14:56] <blackshirt> wew
[14:56] <vril> pfft
[14:57] <vril> for all that trouble i just install 10.04 or run xubuntu
[14:57] <Gmind> LoL... ubuntu at least should hint the user to use that command :(
[14:57] <Gmind> I haven't been here for years
[14:57] <vril> yeah, definitely agree with you Gmind
[14:57] <blup1> if in lubuntu, I click Create new wiseless network, and I connect another laptop to mine, how can I then transfer anything between these two laptops?
[14:57] <vril> but i knew that command ever since slackware 7 was out
[14:57] <vril> after configuring X.org
[14:57] <vril> took me about a month to get it running properly, as a naive kid
[14:57] <vril> tbh
[14:58] <dr_willis> i remember befor there was a xorg
[14:58] <WDKevin> I mounted a disk but all the files have a filesize of 0.
[14:58] <jCuber> blup1, You might want to take a look at FTP
[14:58] <vril> well my first distro was slackware 7
[14:58] <vril> i bought it, at best buy
[14:58] <gordonjcp> Gmind: why would it, and why on earth are you starting a GUI with startx?
[14:58] <dr_willis> WDKevin:  what filesystem?
[14:58] <WDKevin> dr_willis, ext4
[14:59] <Gmind> gordonjcp, now why are you asking me @.@
[14:59] <dr_willis> WDKevin:  hmm. try making a file on it? perhaps needs a fscking
[14:59] <vril> Gmind, you're an old user that came back to ubuntu too?
[14:59] <vril> lol
[14:59] <gordonjcp> Gmind: because you asked a couple of minutes ago about starting a GUI from the command line?
[14:59] <WDKevin> dr_willis, the test file worked
[14:59] <Guest81092> hi, is someone here who can compile glade files, so I can quickly have a look at it how it appears without having any function?
[15:00] <Gmind> gordonjcp, no, I've just asked.
[15:00] <dr_willis> WDKevin:  so all the files truely are empty? or just reporting the sizes wrong?
[15:00] <gordonjcp> Guest99277: open it in glade
[15:00] <gordonjcp> Gmind: you shouldn't need to use startx
[15:00] <Gmind> and VMWare Player suck at installing Ubuntu 12
[15:00] <WDKevin> dr_willis, they are reporting a file size of 0 but they were not empty when they were uploaded
[15:01] <WDKevin> the server was shut down over the weekend and the drive was not automounted when icame in today
[15:01] <WDKevin> i added a line to fstab to do that but i may have gotten the params wrong
[15:02] <subdesign> is it possible that gd2 watermark doesn't work on Ubuntu?
[15:02] <dr_willis> its unusual to 'automount' via nautilus  a ext/3/4 as a user. fstab is the normal way to do it
[15:02] <WDKevin> dr_willis, im doing it through fstab
[15:02] <genshu> gordonjcp, in the actual version of glade it does not look like a windowed application, there is just the main content of the window in a different context than usually.
[15:03] <genshu> gordonjcp, and there is no run or compile function in glade
[15:04] <AdvoWork> jrib, so just make a group "webusers" and add the userA an userB to them? and then chown webuser:webuser or chown usera:webuser?
[15:04] <WDKevin> dr_willis, in my fstab, should i just be using defaults?
[15:06] <blup1> why is there a Unity Desktop, when Ubuntu just could customly update gnome, which was much better? unity is useless
[15:06] <jrib> blup1: use what you like
[15:07] <AdvoWork> jrib, ive added a group, added the 2 users to it, but what should I chown as now? chown groupname:groupname or chown usera:groupname (but can userB still use it then?)
[15:07] <jrib> AdvoWork: chgrp
[15:07] <blup1> yes, but I mean, why to make such an effort to programm unity, when most users doesnt like to use it anyway?
[15:08] <arabi> hello guys... is there any places where i can get used books at low cost?
[15:08] <jrib> blup1: how do you know most users don't like it :)
[15:08] <arabi> online
[15:08] <blup1> I suppose
[15:08] <jrib> !ot | arabi
[15:08] <AdvoWork> jrib, but why do i need to do that?
[15:08] <jrib> AdvoWork: chgrp will change only the group which is what I assume you want to do
[15:08] <AdvoWork> ahh so change the group that the file belongs to?
[15:09] <jrib> AdvoWork: sure, I guess the file is some directory?
[15:09] <AdvoWork> yeah, to be fair once ive got it working, theres lots of files and directories
[15:10] <jrib> AdvoWork: if you just want to give multiple users the ability to write files inside a directory, give the directory group write permissions and then chgrp the directory to whatever you want.  You probably also want to use the sticky bit.
[15:13] <WDKevin> My drive is now mounting when the server is rebooted but it still reports every file as having no file size.
[15:13] <Pooper> Hi all, I created a software based array of disks (4x3TB) using mdadm RAID 5. I then used mkfs.ext4 to partition with the following parameters:  -b 4096 -E stride=128,stripe-width=384... Now that the array is mounted, when I transfer files to it the md5sum of the files changes with respect to the original.... Any ideas as to why this is happening?
[15:13] <WDKevin> I'm able to create new files just fine, but the existing ones all report 0.
[15:15] <alansaul_> Hey guys, I need to update my version of numpy from 1.5.1 to 1.6, but im running ubuntu 11.04 so its not in the package mangements, whats the best way to do so? I heard pip was a bad idea with numpy? Should I remove from apt-get and install via source?
[15:15] <jrib> !11.04 | alansaul_
[15:15] <lonewulf85> I have a serious problem, when I boot it says that it cannot find "/tmp" I have to skip mounting it to continue any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:16] <alansaul_> jrib: Okay yeah, it will be updated eventually, but thats not an option right now
[15:16] <jrib> alansaul_: ok
[15:16] <AdvoWork> jrib, basically ive added userA and userB to the group developers. I've then done chgrp developers myfile.txt  (its still owned by root though). I've then as userA tried to upload the file, which has failed, but surely that should work as userA is part of the developers group?
[15:17] <jrib> AdvoWork: you want them to be able to overwrite each other's version of the file?
[15:17] <blackshirt> !acl | advowork
[15:17] <llutz> lonewulf85: check your /etc/fstab, do you have /tmp on an own partition? if not, sudo mkdir /tmp && sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[15:17] <blackshirt> advowork, maybe you want use acl for more control
[15:18] <lonewulf85> llutz: I will give this a try thanks.
[15:20] <lonewulf85> llutz: when I run the command I get this "mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp': File exists"
[15:20] <jrib> AdvoWork: anyway, the relevant permissions are the ones on the parent directory unless you use sticky bit
[15:20] <jCuber> genshu, you'll need GtkBuilder to actually make the windowed app
[15:20] <llutz> lonewulf85: sudo chown root:root /tmp && sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[15:21] <AdvoWork> jrib, yeah i want userA/userB to be able to modify their files(or anything with the group developers), could you please define sticky bit(sorry? )
[15:22] <jrib> AdvoWork: then just change the group write permmissions on the parent directory (and chgrp the parent directory)
[15:22] <WDKevin> My drive is now mounting when the server is rebooted but it still reports every file as having no file size. The files definetely had sizes and were just fine before the server went down and the disk was unmounted. Is it possible my mount parameters are causing this?
[15:24] <AdvoWork> jrib, so: chmod g+w /var/www/whatever ?  and then chgrp developers /var/www/whatever ? in that order too?
[15:24] <jrib> AdvoWork: sure
[15:25] <lonewulf85> WDKevin: All the files are on the server correct?
[15:25] <WDKevin> They are virtual machines. The drive I am trying to mount is a seperate virtual drive.
[15:25] <WDKevin> It's ext4, and it's worked fine until just this weekend when it was rebooted and not automounted.
[15:26] <lonewulf85> WDKevin: Then the lack of automation is what might have caused it. Can you access the files right now?
[15:26] <WDKevin> Lonewlf, no I cannot
[15:27] <WDKevin> I can see the directory listing, but all files have a filesize of 0.
[15:27] <th30z> Hey, I've just installed ubuntu 12.10 but I'm not able to run a user created script... e.g. I create a file #!/bin/bash echo "Hello" then chmod +x and then ./foo.sh but I get bash: ./foo.sh: Permission denied any idea? thanks!
[15:27] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, check ownership on the file
[15:27] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, does your user own the file :P
[15:28] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: yes, file just created.. my user, my group, +x, same also with chmod 777
[15:28] <jrib> th30z: paste the output of: ls -l /path/to/your/script
[15:28] <TheLordOfTime> and pastebin the contents of your script as well
[15:28] <TheLordOfTime> just in case that's at fault :P
[15:29] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | th30z, for pasting
[15:29] <lonewulf85> WDKevin: You might need to re automatize the mounting of the files, then reboot and see if you can get them back to the way the were.
[15:29] <janet> 114.249.224.77 needs a firewall
[15:29] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: is not a permission issue http://pastebin.com/Uq8mSWye
[15:29] <WDKevin> Lonewlf, thats what im trying to do now
[15:29] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, so pastebin your entire script, you may have written something wrong in it which is causing the break.
[15:29] <lonewulf85> WDKevin: Oh okay.
[15:30] <WDKevin> Lonewlf, It's just everytime the machine comes back up I just get a list of 0byte files
[15:30] <jrib> AdvoWork: do note that if you want to let people edit the files, then they need write permissions on the files.  Also, if you want this to apply to subdirectories, then you'd need to change the permissions of subdirectories.  It really depends on what exactly your goal is as to whether or not this is a suitable solution.  If it's not, and you need more control then ACLs as blackshirt said is the way to go
[15:30] <jrib> (you can set a default ACL)
[15:30] <llutz> WDKevin: whats your fstab-line for that filesystem?
[15:31] <WDKevin> llutz, UUID=7eddd68f-ed4b-460e-bc11-0a3f890b1cdc /var/www/images ext4 rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,async 0   1
[15:31] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: is not a script issue, same with other code... python, C and so on... and other /run downloaded http://pastebin.com/F4zktmNU
[15:31] <jrib> th30z: pastebin output of « mount »
[15:31] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, also, quick quesiton,l is this on your system or on say a free shell or something
[15:31] <TheLordOfTime> (some shell hosts restrict running things)
[15:31] <th30z> TheLordOfTime:  is just type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro)
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> jrib, ^
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, remember, i'm not hte only one asking you questions.
[15:32] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: no on the system
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, that wasnt my question...
[15:32] <jrib> th30z: use a pastebin
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, is this your system, or a free shell?  i dindt ask the partition type
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> nor the filesystem
[15:33] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: sorry was for jrib, is my system
[15:33] <llutz> WDKevin: "rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,async" = defaults. "ls -ld  /var/www/images"
[15:33] <WDKevin> llutz, defaults also includes nouser
[15:34] <llutz> WDKevin: and? if you use "auto" the user-option would be obsolete anyways
[15:34] <WDKevin> ah
[15:34] <Sidewinder> TheLordOfTime, Good mornin'; would you mind a PM?
[15:34] <WDKevin> i appologize
[15:34] <th30z> jrib: http://pastebin.com/7gajRgua
[15:34] <WDKevin> llutz, running the command you gave, before mount it shows root:root as owner, afterwards its my user
[15:35] <lappy_> I'm using lubuntu 12.10, and I'm trying to find the synclient.conf file so I can permanently enable horizontal edge scrolling.  Does anyone know where/how I can find this file?
[15:35] <llutz> WDKevin: and who should own the files?
[15:35] <WDKevin> www-data owns the files in the directory
[15:35] <jrib> !synaptics | lappy_
[15:35] <jrib> lappy_: see if that wiki page is updated
[15:37] <designbybeck_> PLEASE HELP: Just ran the updates on 12.10 and I can't login now after restart. I just get a blank background
[15:37] <jCuber> Hey fellas, what's the safest way to install Ubuntu 12.(10/04) for dual-boot with Windows 7 x64? I know the method, but I wouldn't want to lose 700GB of data (nor backup)
[15:37] <lappy_> Ok, thank you guys!
[15:37] <jrib> designbybeck_: see if happens with a new user
[15:37] <hmsck> i have a problem with indicators in Xubuntu 12.10..it doesn't work
[15:37] <designbybeck_> Seems this might have been a problem with NVIDIA at one time as well
[15:37] <designbybeck_> jrib: i get the same results as guest
[15:37] <jCuber> designbybeck_, Press ALT+F1 at start, log in, then when console is initialized, type in startx for starters
[15:37] <jrib> designbybeck_: see if happens with a new user
[15:38] <designbybeck_> i can't get in to do anything to make a new user jrib
[15:38] <designbybeck_> jCuber: i don't get unity at all
[15:38] <designbybeck_> just a background
[15:38] <jrib> designbybeck_: ctrl-alt-f1 should get you a tty
[15:38] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, go ahead, but i'm in a spotty-networking area, so i may not see it right away
[15:39] <jrib> th30z: what's an example of something else that you run and this happens?
[15:39] <jCuber> designbybeck_, Tried choosing another window manager from Login?
[15:39] <Sidewinder> TheLordOfTime, Thanks; it'll take a few moments, my typing sucks and I want to be concise..
[15:39] <designbybeck_> i don't have another one to try jCuber
[15:40] <jCuber> designbybeck_, You should be able to choose Unity 2D from somewhere like the top or bottom screen
[15:40] <jCuber> designbybeck_, At the login screen, I mean
[15:40] <designbybeck_> not with Ubuntu 12.10
[15:40] <hmsck> ubuntu doesn't recognize a RTL8187 driver...:(
[15:46] <alansaul_> How can I check where my apt-get installation of a package is located?
[15:46] <jrib> alansaul_: dpkg -L PACKAGE .  But why?
[15:47] <alansaul_> jrib: I think I have multiple installations of numpy, want to know which will disappear if I do apt-get remove numpy
[15:47] <Lonewlf> the only way to have multiple installs of something is if packagemanagement is broken... or if you installed something by hand
[15:47] <Lonewlf> dpkg --list|grep numpy
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, you're asking for support in a private message?
[15:48] <alansaul_> I've just got my hands on this (messy) server, so I'm trying to straighten some things out, I think atleast one version was installed by hand...
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> !privmsg | Sidewinder
[15:49] <jrib> alansaul_: the first thing you should do is upgrade to a supported release...
[15:49] <alansaul_> jrib: Will be able to do that in the next couple of weeks
[15:49] <alansaul_> Going to have a complete wipe
[15:49] <alansaul_> for now, I just need a passable solution
[15:49] <alansaul_> so just need a updated version of numpy somewhere
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, there's a reason we discourage using private messages for syupport requests, so you can have several people working together to help you with issues.  For future reference, I do not give Ubuntu support via private message.
[15:51] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, i'd encourage you to ask your question about VPN in this channel
[15:51] <TheLordOfTime> and wait patiently for a response.
[15:51] <Sidewinder> TheLordOfTime, Message received and understood.
[15:51]  * TheLordOfTime returns to digging around nginx's source code
[15:52] <Sidewinder> And, good luck in your future endeavors.
[15:55] <philinux> Is there a lock file causing this error to happen? gpassword: cannot lock /etc/group;try again later
[15:56] <gordonjcp> philinux: no
[15:56] <gordonjcp> it means you haven't got permission to fiddle with groups
[15:56] <gordonjcp> maybe you need to use sudo
[15:57] <philinux> gordonjcp: this is in recovery mode as root
[15:58] <gordonjcp> hm, maybe it's not mounted read-write
[15:58] <gordonjcp> philinux: What exactly are you trying to do?
[16:00] <philinux> gordonjcp: help this guy who accidently borked his admin account http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12350440#post12350440
[16:00] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, i may have one solution, though, do you use network-manager?
[16:12] <AdvoWork> I've done chmod g+w /var/www/whatever and then chgrp developers /var/www/whatever and then done ls -al | grep whatever and it lists: drwxrwxr-x 2  755 developers  4096 Nov 12 15:59 whatever, does that look right, with the 755 being listed?
[16:18] <cist1999> !hello
[16:18] <cist1999> ciao
[16:18] <cist1999> !list
[16:18] <dr_willis> cist1999:  do you list every channel you join?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> the !list factoid should show something else
[16:23] <OerHeks> dr_willis, i still wonder, from 2009 untill now, what channel on #freenode gives download results to '!list"
[16:23] <OerHeks> sorry that would be offtopic
[16:24] <dr_willis> we should send them torrent files of the current releases.. that would lighten the server loads. ;-)
[16:25] <OerHeks> dr_willis +1 raring ?
[16:25] <Cybwoti> Sarthor_ sorry I dashed away on a callout... proceed
[16:25] <dr_willis> split rars with par files and password protected
[16:26] <dr_willis> in a zip file
[16:26] <dr_willis> ;-)
[16:26] <dr_willis> and a totally unreadable.   .nfo  file.
[16:27] <jackhill> Hello can point me at documentation (or tell me) why dh_usrlocal is useful? Why create directories in maintainer scripts instead of just encoding them in the package files?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> or direct the guy to trololo
[16:28] <jrib> jackhill: probably better luck in #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-motu (or a debian packaging channel)
[16:28] <dr_willis> hmm. got no idea what dh_usrlocal  is. ;-)
[16:28] <jackhill> jrib: thanks!
[16:28] <mag]]> is it "normal" for my system to be sitting at 66% cached memory used? or to have 4.8gigs of cached memory? It seems to continually build up until ~99% memory usage (70-30 distribution between cached and active memory) and when I do something memory intensive from there, I get graphical issues in my desktop manager.. like altered characters and blank applications that are still running.. Restarting the desktop manager (log out/log in) is just a temp fix, and I'l
[16:28] <mag]]> l have to eventually reboot
[16:30] <dr_willis> that is weird mag]]
[16:30] <Cybwoti> how...
[16:30] <mag]]> maybe it's gnome-fallback's problem?
[16:30] <rumpe1> mag]], for what else should the free memory be used?
[16:31] <Cybwoti> normal boot huh
[16:31] <dr_willis> try a dufferent desktop perhaps and see?
[16:31] <rumpe1> mag]], are you looking for actual "free" (=not used) memory?
[16:32] <mag]]> I think if I try to drop the cached memory, I'll get the graphical errors
[16:32] <mag]]> rumpe1, I just don't want to have to reboot because of memory errors
[16:33] <rumpe1> mag]], then... buy some new ram?
[16:33] <dr_willis> i have to wonder how graphics memory is getting affected by system memory
[16:34] <maplesoft> is there a game similer to 'red alert
[16:34] <dr_willis> a long memtest may be a good idea.
[16:34] <mag]]> rumpe1, I was just wondering if 66% constant cache usage is normal
[16:34] <maplesoft> is there a game similer to 'red alert' in linux
[16:34] <maplesoft> ?
[16:34] <dr_willis> maplesoft: warzone2000 perhaps
[16:34] <mag]]> dr_willis, yeah, when I have the time I should try that too
[16:34] <maplesoft> dr_willis:  ok. thats for linux?
[16:34] <rumpe1> mag]], it's normal to fill up the free ram with caches and buffers
[16:34] <dr_willis> i think thats the name..
[16:35] <maplesoft> dr_willis:  have you played it?
[16:35] <DarkAceLaptop> what does pipe_wait in waiting channel mean?
[16:35] <DarkAceLaptop> >System monitor
[16:35] <dr_willis> wz2000. wz2k.    its been a while since i played it.
[16:35] <mag]]> rumpe1, until 99% memory usage?
[16:35] <dr_willis> !games
[16:36] <rumpe1> mag]], yes, why not?
[16:36] <rumpe1> mag]], if an application needs ram, it can easily be droped
[16:36] <Foca_> How-to so that <img src=""> open my image in ubuntu-server ? I need configure my  permissions ?
[16:36] <maplesoft> dr_willis:  I needed a free linux game that is similer to 'red alert'
[16:37] <DarkAceLaptop> what does pipe_wait in waiting channel mean?
[16:37] <dsenator> hey all... I wanna fix OpenGL issues in Ubuntu 12.10
[16:37] <mag]]> rumpe1, I don't know... just questioning, and dropping seems to screw things up so I was wondering if there were memory management errors somewhere :P, oh well thanks for the help, and thanks dr_willis
[16:38] <LucidGuy> XFS fs 40TB filesystems..  actual 134876361, ideal 14984301, fragmentation factor 88.89 ...  I'm thinking defrag, but something tells me thats going to take days.
[16:38] <dr_willis> maplesoft: warzone2000 perhaps......
[16:38] <Doxin> I've got a file in a zipfile with weird characters in the name, and file-roller refuses to extract it. how do I get that file out of there? (with or without the original filename)
[16:38] <dr_willis> maplesoft: check the game sites
[16:39] <dr_willis> warzone 2100   ;-)    i was clise
[16:39] <dr_willis> close
[16:40] <maplesoft> dr_willis: thanks
[16:40] <ChogyDan> Doxin: try 7-zip
[16:40] <Herion> hello
[16:40] <Doxin> ChogyDan: eww
[16:40] <dsenator> help me fix open gl issues
[16:40] <ChogyDan> !details | dsenator
[16:41] <west> how do i refresh my usb ports. one thumb stick seems to have problems getting recognized but works automatically when i leave it in and restart ubuntu.
[16:41] <west> ls /dev/sd*  only shows sda not /dev/sdbx
[16:42] <west> ls
[16:42] <ChogyDan> west: maybe try `sudo lshw`
[16:43] <mixnovich> ah
[16:43] <dsenator> I have a problem with using Modo 3d software in Virtual box, I'm running Ubuntu version Quantal, I discovered I may need to install nvidia driver and not use the open source driver, so I do sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and get the message that ''E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages''
[16:45] <ChogyDan> dsenator: can you pastebin the full text of your cli?  ie, the command you ran and the resulting output and error messages?
[16:45] <west> it shows usb0, 1 and 2 as if I have 3 ports but I only have 2
[16:45] <mattsyco> Anyone have an idea why my computer freezes up whenever it goes to sleep for more than an hour?
[16:46] <ChogyDan> dsenator: also, you may want to try `sudo apt-get install -f`
[16:46] <crackerjackz> for some reason the new kernel messed my webcam up... the newest gentoo kernel also does the same thing to my webcam..can i use the old driver or something? is that possible? it does it on both the newest versions of ubuntu and gentoo but not on the old ones... i'm kind of upset that it forced me to upgarde now none of my hardware is working right
[16:46] <dsenator> how do I do mention your name like you do for  me here?
[16:46] <dr_willis> dsenator:  you wouldent use the nvidia drivers in virtualbox
[16:46] <dr_willis> !tab
[16:47] <dsenator> this is the command 'sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a'
[16:47] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: AFAIK, you need to use the older kernel.  The driver versions are tied to the kernel
[16:47] <ChogyDan> !paste | dsenator
[16:47] <dr_willis> dsenator:  try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to fo a full update to latest packages on your release
[16:47] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: that;s what i thought... what about on a distro where you configure and compile your own kernel... would it be possible then?
[16:47] <west> dsenator, thanks will try
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> crackerjackz  go ahead and create it
[16:48] <crackerjackz> MonkeyDust: ???
[16:49] <dr_willis> several sourced based distros out there. ;)
[16:49] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: as monkey said, yeah.  It's just a matter of getting ahold of the kernel.  Typically, the repos won't have it readily available.  With Ubuntu, you could try getting the kernel from an older repo, or from the mainline ppa
[16:49] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: how big of a security risk would it be to run a version of ubuntu that is no longer supported by the developers?
[16:49] <crackerjackz> this computer is olddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[16:49] <crackerjackz> but i like it and its all i have for a laptop
[16:50] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  depends on how its connecteed to the net
[16:50] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: wirelessly
[16:50] <dr_willis> and what you do with it
[16:50] <dr_willis> whats the exact system specs?
[16:50] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: just work, surf the web, music, movies, video calls, nothing too crazy
[16:50] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: also, 8.04 kernel is still supported, which is from 2008
[16:51] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: i don't remember the exact version i had installed on here but it forced me to upgrade saying it was no longer supported... how do i downgrade with out formatting the drive?
[16:51] <dr_willis> !downgrade
[16:52] <dr_willis> you dont. ;)
[16:52] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: if i can at the very least get this device functioning properly then i'll be okay i can do with out the rest Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08d7 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX
[16:53] <cloudy> crackerjackz, which version were you running?
[16:53] <magesing> Hi everyone, I finally managed to boot into the installer, now how can I get the installer to recognize my  software RAID setup?
[16:53] <crackerjackz> cloudy: 10 point something i could be wrong though idr off the top of my head
[16:53] <crackerjackz> 10.04 i think
[16:54] <morad> hi
[16:54] <morad> bonsoir
[16:54] <crackerjackz> morad: hello
[16:54] <crackerjackz> how may we assist you?
[16:54] <dr_willis> !version
[16:55] <ewet> hi, when I start up the UbuntuGNOME Live CD it goes black after loading xorg -- is that an nvidia-driver/compositor issue?
[16:55] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: i'm using 12.04 now but the kernel that was working for me was 10.04 i think
[16:55] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | ewet
[16:55] <morad> Hi crackerjackz
[16:56] <morad> ndiswrapper :(
[16:56] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  weird that it would break. check bug reports perhaps. may be a known issue and being worked on.
[16:56] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:   or the cam is so old it was dropped
[16:56] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: the cam works in the dark, but in the light it freezes
[16:56] <cloudy> crackerjackz, a friend of mine got the same message on the netbook. Now it runs 12.04 and is just very slow. And it was running the beautiful Netbook edition of ubuntu. Now its time for xubuntu. I guess in your case, I would backup home and reinstall 10.04.
[16:57] <crackerjackz> it does the same thing on gentoo but i thought maybe the cam was just broke... i put old version of ubuntu on my laptop and the cam worked perfect until i upgraded to 12.04
[16:57] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  may be the cam is busted.. hard to tell.
[16:57] <magesing> Where can I find the latest version of the installation docs?
[16:57] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: it works great on my friends windoze computer
[16:57] <morad> I h've a problem with m'i wifi
[16:57] <dr_willis> time to check the bug reports and forums then crackerjackz
[16:58] <crackerjackz> !ndis
[16:58] <crackerjackz> !ndis | morad
[16:58] <morad> thank's
[16:59] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  id check it with a 12.10 live usb also... could be the upgrade was the issue. not 12.10
[17:00] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: there is a 12.10? im on 12.04 maybe upgrading to 12.10 would fix it?
[17:00] <cloudy> crackerjackz, have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[17:00] <ewet> dr_willis: weird thing is the xubuntu 12.10 works fine ...
[17:01] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  i rarely upgrade.... i always clean install..  test with a 12.10 live usb..
[17:02] <cloudy> dr_willis, do you have home on a seperate partition?
[17:02] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: can you clean install with out overwriting your home directory and what not? (say if everything resides on /)
[17:02] <crackerjackz> i've got like 100 GB of data on here and all of my hard disk are full
[17:02] <dr_willis> cloudy:  i got home on its own seperate hard drive even... ;)
[17:02] <dr_willis> 100gb? thats all?
[17:03] <dr_willis> i got more por... err... vacation pics then that
[17:03] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: on this laptop yes.. it only has 160 gb HD but my other computers have bigger ones and they are all full as well
[17:03] <dr_willis> sounds like you need to clean house.
[17:03] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: yes you can, but the feature is somewhat obscure...  Canonical devs were going to fix that...
[17:04] <dsenator> ChogyDan, dr_willis here are the image links from terminal http://imagebin.org/235566, http://imagebin.org/235565, http://imagebin.org/235567, http://imagebin.org/235568
[17:04] <dr_willis> just remember a hard drive could die at any time.. data not backed up is data at risk
[17:04] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: in what ways is it obscure, you mean obscure as in kind of complicated to figure out with not much documentation on the matter?
[17:05] <dr_willis> you could repartition and make a /home/ partition via gparted  but that may take time
[17:05] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: yah i need to get some TB external drives and start backing up all my data to them
[17:05] <cloudy> dr_willis, do you have a second harddrive in your PC or is it somewhere in your network?
[17:05] <dr_willis> and data loss is possible
[17:06] <dr_willis> cloudy:  i have like 4 on that one pc.. and a nas.
[17:06] <dr_willis> and a stack or backup usb hds
[17:06] <dsenator> dr_willis, I am not looking to use nvidia in VB, I just want to be able to to solve the open gl issue of the host OS that is affecting the VB
[17:06] <cloudy> dr_willis, 4 discs - are you using RAID?
[17:06] <dr_willis> got a 3tb internal for under $100 a few weeks back to replace a 1TB
[17:07] <dr_willis> cloudy:  i dont use raid. i want space. not speed.. my single sdd gives me speed
[17:07] <cloudy> dr_willis, ok -so you have 3 big HDD and 1 SSD?
[17:07] <dr_willis> yep.
[17:08] <Kroach> is it possible to remove a package along with all it's dependencies which are not required by any other package? like 'pacman -Rs package' in Arch
[17:08] <dr_willis> on that pc. ;)
[17:08] <cloudy> dr_willis, how big is your nas and how many discs do you have there?
[17:08] <dr_willis> cloudy:  it has a 3tb on it
[17:08] <cloudy> dr_willis, what is the noise level of your setup?
[17:09] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: it is not documented at all, and no indication that it will work.  But here is how to do it.  Just use the installer to start doing a clean install.  Select MANUAL partitioning when the option arises.  Setup up / to be whatever it is, and then hit install.  The installer will complain about an OS already present, and that certain directories (not /home) will have to be deleted.  In theory, it should leave /home intact.  I have tested this as workin
[17:09] <dr_willis> cloudy:  never noticed. i dont even have the side on it right now
[17:09] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: i just plugged my webcam up to another computer running 11.10 and it works great.. i guess imma just downgrade soon as i figure out a wayt o back all of this data up
[17:09] <ToeTag> Does anyone know what specifically is different about the "Mac" .iso for LUBUNTU (I also have asked in #lubuntu)
[17:10] <dr_willis> or its your usb ports thats the issue crackerjackz ...
[17:10] <dr_willis> id just get a new webcam. ;)
[17:10] <ChogyDan> dsenator: you don't have to do picture pastes, but it works.  try: `sudo apt-get install xorg-video-abi-11`  and see what that says
[17:10] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: interesting.. what live cd did you do it with?
[17:11] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: it was Ubuntu for the flavour.  Don't remember the version
[17:11] <cloudy> dr_willis, when you do a new install, do you always install home as well and then just copy everything back from your backup ?
[17:11] <crackerjackz> roger that
[17:12] <dsenator> ChogyDan, i am on it
[17:12] <dr_willis> cloudy:  i tell it where my /home/ is (on sdb1) and it uses it.  it does not format it
[17:12] <dr_willis> i readd my users in the same order every time also.
[17:13] <cloudy> dr_willis, what is the risk that newer versions of an application do not work with your old config files stored on home?
[17:13] <dr_willis> you could get fancy and have home for different users on different fielsystems if you wanted. ;)
[17:13] <dr_willis> cloudy:  its trivial to clean out the old configs
[17:13] <dr_willis> ive rarely seen the issue happen
[17:13] <cloudy> dr_willis, :) Please tell me how?
[17:13] <dr_willis> remove/rename the config giles
[17:14] <dr_willis> files
[17:14] <crackerjackz> brb
[17:15] <dsenator> ChogyDan, here is the result Package xorg-video-abi-11 is a virtual package provided by:    xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.8 [Not candidate version]    xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.6 [Not candidate version]    xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10 [Not candidate version]
[17:15] <dsenator> ChogyDan, sorry i dont know how to paste from terminal directly
[17:15] <cloudy> dr_willis, so when an application has a problem you start with renaming the old config files and see if it solved?
[17:16] <ChogyDan> dsenator: just copy paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:16] <cal_> installed 12.10... what the heck is this /dev/mapper/ stuff instead of /dev/sda1?
[17:16] <Cybw0tee> linux or cisco first...am in networking security for the long haul. Asked same Q in cisco chan, hoping for unbiased only
[17:17] <SoapMacTavish> soooo, I need help with one issue here, tried so many things, but no luck.
[17:17] <SoapMacTavish>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/142182/mac-like-multitouch-support   tried this one, over and over, looked at several threads, but no luck. It seems to me that: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:utouch-team/daily  is the thing not working here.
[17:17] <bekks> cal_: thats the device mapper stuff. AKA software raid and logical volume management.
[17:17] <OerHeks> SoapMacTavish, join #ubuntu-touch , maybe those guys can help you out
[17:18] <cal_> bekks: ahh. so thats cause i chose LVM in the install? what if i had not chosen that, would  it still have used the whole 200gb drive?
[17:18] <SoapMacTavish> thnx
[17:18] <dsenator> ChogyDan, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1353605/
[17:18] <cloudy> dr_willis, what vendor is your NAS from?
[17:18] <bekks> cal_: In neither case you have to use your entire drive.
[17:18] <cal_> bekks: i know, but i wanted too
[17:19] <cal_> what does LVM give me over just having a /dev/sda1
[17:19] <dr_willis> cloudy: its built in the Cisco router. ive had others in the past
[17:19] <wN> cal_: LVM is a storage adminstration tool. if lets resize volumes, stick volumes together, mirror, snapshot, etc.
[17:19] <cloudy> dr_willis, ok - so it is a router with a USB port to which you attached the 3 TB drive?
[17:20] <dr_willis> cloudy: my boxee box also shared a hd. ;-)
[17:20] <Cybwoti> sng _ you serious or sacastic...
[17:20] <cal_> ahh ok
[17:20] <dr_willis> cloudy: yes.
[17:20] <ChogyDan> dsenator: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
[17:21] <hmsck> swapon: /dev/sda6: swapon failed: Device or resource busy
[17:21] <dr_willis> i have some low end nas $20  that can share 2 usb hds also.
[17:21] <cloudy> dr_willis, regarding the config files being trivial, that part is something that I don't find so trivial. How do you know which config files belong to which application. Showing the hidden files on the home it is just such a huge list.
[17:22] <dr_willis> cloudy:  90% of them are in.    .config
[17:22] <dsenator> ChogyDan - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1353614/
[17:22] <Christian_M_> hello everyone
[17:22] <dsenator> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1353614/
[17:22] <Christian_M_> why do i receive the following error: impossible to connect java.security.accessControlException : access denied (java.net.SocketPermission irc.tiscali.it resolve) ???
[17:23] <BluesKaj> BBIAB
[17:23] <ChogyDan> dsenator: did you install a ppa with a later version of the nvidia driver?
[17:23] <gustav__> Can I see where programs are writing files? I know iotop can show which programs write files, but where?
[17:23] <hmsck> my SWAP doesn't work: swapon: /dev/sda6: swapon failed: Device or resource busy
[17:24] <cloudy> Christian_M_, try running it with sudo
[17:24] <gustav__> Is there anyone who has moved flash plugin to RAM to make it write there, since most are streams and not so interesting to save?
[17:24] <gustav__> Does flash use /tmp or what?
[17:24] <Christian_M_> cloudy, thanks. It s not a terminal command. I receive that in a chat webpage
[17:25] <cloudy> Christian_M_, which version of Java are you running?
[17:25] <Christian_M_> jdk
[17:25] <Christian_M_> cloudy, jdk
[17:26] <cloudy> Christian_M_, please type in a terminal java -version
[17:26] <dsenator> ChogyDan, I have no idea what you are saying here... greek?
[17:26] <ChogyDan> dsenator: hmmm, and you are running 12.04?
[17:26] <dsenator> 12.10
[17:27] <dsenator> quantal 12.10 - ChogyDan
[17:27] <ChogyDan> dsenator: erm, did you get errors during the upgrade?
[17:27] <Christian_M_> cloudy, http://pastebin.com/4LJSXNMH
[17:27] <gavri> so I was trying to figure out why sound doesn't work often in all the non-mpd applications I have. mpd was running as a different user. so I tried to get it to use my user account. now I don't get sound with mpd either.
[17:27] <gavri> how do I just reinstall whatever is required for sound to work?
[17:28] <cloudy> Christian_M_, you might want to change to the Oracle Java instead of Openjdk
[17:28] <dsenator> ChogyDan, yeah but cant remember, but i know it was a partial upgrade and i have been trying to get it fully upgraded, this morning I was asked to fix broken packages which I kinda tried to do...
[17:28] <ChogyDan> dsenator: also, I forget, have you run sudo apt-get update during all this?
[17:28] <dsenator> ChogyDan, i did that in the morning, i can do it again
[17:29] <Christian_M_> cloudy, i tried but i can't, and in the ubuntu forum they told me that openjdk is great the same
[17:29] <ChogyDan> dsenator: try `update-manager --dist-upgrade`
[17:30] <cloudy> Christian_M_, have a look at this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[17:30] <dsenator> ChogyDan, I just did the sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:30] <dsenator> how about the dist upgrade
[17:30] <dsenator> how do i do that
[17:30] <cloudy> Christian_M_, make sure you remove an openjdk first
[17:31] <Christian_M_> cloudy, i have just followed that guide!
[17:31] <ChogyDan> dsenator: well, let's just try the commands that Im giving.  I would try that one first
[17:32] <cloudy> Christian_M_, but your pastebin still shows openJdk, then something didn't go right
[17:32] <dsenator> ChogyDan, I have done everything up till sudo apt-get update
[17:32] <dsenator> but the update manager one, how do I do that
[17:32] <Christian_M_> cloudy, yes i told you: i tried but i can not install it, and then in the forum they told me to don't care
[17:32] <ChogyDan> dsenator: exactly as I typed it: `update-manager --dist-upgrade`
[17:34] <cloudy> Christian_M_, what did it say when you couldn't install it?
[17:34] <ChogyDan> dsenator: also, in update-manager, click settings, and make sure to get updates on "every new release"    I think it is the bottom option
[17:35] <dsenator> ChogyDan, i will do that again, i tried it earlier on but it said no such command... here is what it said again  now now http://paste.ubuntu.com/1353648/
[17:35] <dsenator> ChogyDan, you know there is no update manager anymore
[17:36] <Christian_M_> cloudy, http://pastebin.com/vcjWCGdJ
[17:37] <ChogyDan> dsenator: hmmm, well, you are correct.  Try just running update-manager then.     (the --dist-upgrade option is still listed in the man page)
[17:37] <dsenator> ChogyDan, it just starts running automatically, no option to choose aything
[17:38] <ChogyDan> dsenator: can you check the settings?
[17:38] <dsenator> ChogyDan, updater ran and installed 4 items, now it says up to date... how do I check setting?
[17:39] <ChogyDan> dsenator: do you see a settings button?
[17:40] <cloudy> Christian_M_, sha256sum mismatch jdk-7u3-linux-x64.tar.gz - the file is corrupted, could be your connection, you could retry
[17:41] <ChogyDan> dsenator: well, if you want the quick and dirty method, you can also just gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all references of precise to quantal
[17:41] <dsenator> hmm
[17:41] <ChogyDan> and THEN run update manager again, deal with resulting issues
[17:42] <dsenator> let me give you a screenshot
[17:42] <ChogyDan> k
[17:42] <Christian_M_> cloudy, it was not the only guide that i followed, but if you say that i can try it again now... should i just repeat the last command: sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer???
[17:43] <dsenator> ChogyDan, http://imagebin.org/235573
[17:43] <cloudy> Christian_M_, no, because the file that was downloaded is corrupt and every time you run it it will do a sha1 checksum check and will fail
[17:44] <Christian_M_> cloudy, ok i will repeat the whole procedure, do i have to remove/delete something before?
[17:45] <ChogyDan> dsenator: it is because your sources are messed up.  To me, that looks like you have an upgrade that failed to complete.  I was trying to find a command that might restart the upgrade (ie, update-manager).  But if you just want to plow through fixing the broken packages, fix your sources.list file, and that should get you started
[17:45] <cloudy> Christian_M_,  sorry, my mistake, yes, you can just run sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer and see that it gets downloaded again. no need to add anything else again
[17:46] <ChogyDan> dsenator: or you could backup and do a clean install.  Sometimes that is easier
[17:46] <dsenator> ChogyDan, software sources always crashes... once I click. I agree my upgrade did not install fully
[17:46] <Christian_M_> cloudy, thanks ! i will try immediatly
[17:47] <dsenator> ChogyDan,  this too http://imagebin.org/235574
[17:48] <ChogyDan> dsenator: same situation.  So what are you going to do?  Backup and clean install?  or fix your sources, and plow ahead?
[17:48] <Christian_M_> cloudy, same error
[17:48] <dsenator> let me do the dirty method
[17:50] <dsenator> ChogyDan, let me do the dirty method but when i change the name do i say ''Quantal Quetzal'' or just ''Quantal''?
[17:50] <ChogyDan> dsenator: neither, "quantal"
[17:51] <cloudy> Christian_M_, ok, looks like Oracle changed something on that link, this will not work at all for the moment
[17:51] <yoghrt> Hello, I Installed Ubuntu 12.10 64bit in UEFI mode and after restarting laptop i get "Failed to verify image with *ACCESS DENIED" instead of grub and then it boots Windows 8. I tried boot-repair but didn't help. Any Ideas?
[17:51] <dsenator> ChogyDan, ''quantal'' with a small q, not the big
[17:51] <ChogyDan> dsenator: correct
[17:51] <dsenator> on it now
[17:51] <Christian_M_> cloudy, should i wait or what? :)
[17:52] <MrOxy> How good is ubuntu at virtualization?
[17:52] <zhorko> hello I installed skype but it won't start
[17:52] <zhorko> when I click on the icon
[17:52] <dsenator> ChogyDan, and save when done?
[17:52] <ChogyDan> dsenator: of course
[17:52] <dtcrshr> hello everyone. This friday iv updated a notebook from 10.04, to 12.04, only via gnome update manager, chosing the distro update button. Iv wento from 10.04 to 10.10, and them to 11 as the update manager suggested and so on. My user is ok, documents, images and so on, but I had a lot of files into my desktop, most of my work, that were GONE after the update. Why ubuntu simply deleted the desktop on the gnome / unity update proccess? Is there
[17:52] <dtcrshr> a way to get my files back? into my /home/user/desktop theres nothing
[17:52] <dtcrshr> were they moved or something? why is there such a caveat on the update  proccess that kills all the desktop files? I know thats not a good use for the desktop this way, i should get my files into the documents, /images, /videos or whatsoever
[17:53] <zhorko> anyone here
[17:53] <zhorko> ?
[17:53] <zhorko> yes no
[17:54] <dsenator> ChogyDan, done and saved
[17:54] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: that shouldn't happen
[17:54] <Cybw0tee> did i mìss something...got discon
[17:54] <dtcrshr> yeah. but it did. i did nothing that reboot and choose the next update
[17:54] <cloudy> Christian_M_, you can try the following. go to java.com and download the version from there. it will be a tar.gz file
[17:54] <jrib> dtcrshr: files shouldn't be deleted during update.  You should have updates anyway.  Take this as the moment you start backing up important files. Having said that, do you know the exact name of a particular file that should exist?
[17:54] <jrib> dtcrshr: I meant "have backups" not "have updates"
[17:55] <zhorko> ????????????????????????????????
[17:55] <ChogyDan> zhorko: try running skype from a terminal, see if you get an error message
[17:55] <dtcrshr> i know some file names for sure. iv  went to / folder and find -name 'fileiknow.ext'
[17:55] <gustav__> Hi, I see "jbd/sda1-8" writing frequently to disk, what is it and how can I make it stop?
[17:55] <dtcrshr> but theres none
[17:56] <jrib> dtcrshr: ok so what's the name of one file?  Also, during which update did this happen?
[17:56] <dtcrshr> well, the bad thing is that this notebook isnt mine. Iv installed ubuntu for this friend an year ago, and the ubuntu started popping up a box "this version is no longer supported, please update"
[17:56] <Cybw0tee> btw am on a old symbian os phone ...so my chat is slow...
[17:56] <jrib> dtcrshr: were you here a few days ago?  With the username "mauro" for ubuntu?
[17:56] <dsenator> ChogyDan, done and saved... now what next to test?
[17:56] <dtcrshr> so, he brought the note to me, iv simply updated from the GUI, NEVER imagined that the desktop were purged after update
[17:57] <ChogyDan> dsenator: run update-manager
[17:57] <fsufitch> hey, i'm trying to switch to using irssi instead of mirc, and i'm having trouble replicating the "/vhost" command from mirc. any advice?
[17:57] <jrib> !who | dtcrshr
[17:57] <dtcrshr> i dunno. I simply updated all the way, and when he got here to get the pc, the files werent there
[17:57] <Natanael_L> Hi there. I screwed up my login screen on Ubuntu. I am using the Live USB I have now. How do I restore it?
[17:57] <jrib> fsufitch: what does the command do...
[17:57] <dtcrshr> jrib: yes, its me
[17:57] <Christian_M_> cloudy, i have also tried that some days ago, but it neither worked for me
[17:57] <Cybw0tee> upgrade ubuntu
[17:58] <dtcrshr> He found a pendrive with some files that were on the desktop, so now I have at least some filenames to search for
[17:58] <fsufitch> jrib: the syntax is "/vhost <vhostname> <password>" and it sets my vhost to a pre-configured host, checking that i am allowed to use it via password
[17:58] <Pici> fsufitch: If you're trying to hide your host, you'll need to ask in #freenode.  There is no /vhost on freenode.
[17:58] <fsufitch> Pici: this is on a different server, but i was asking because googling has failed me
[17:58] <Natanael_L> I need to do something from the LiveUSB that is not "full restore". Or well, I haven't actually done very much so far regarding customization, so well...
[17:58] <Pici> fsufitch: unless of course your asking about another network, which you should use /quote to send a raw command to the server.
[17:59] <cloudy> Christian_M_, you could try to contact the maintainer of the following ppa and ask them to update their installer: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[17:59] <ControllerSYR> hi
[17:59] <fsufitch> Pici: i didn't know about /quote, i'll see if that helps
[18:00] <Christian_M_> cloudy, ok many thanks ! :)
[18:00] <MrOxy> How good is ubuntu at virtualization?
[18:00] <rumpe1> MrOxy, pretty good
[18:01] <dtcrshr> jrib: iv found some refferences, but to this path: /home/mauro/.openme/cache/home/mauro/Área de Trabalho/movie.mpg.thumbs
[18:01] <dtcrshr> but the movie.mpg, that were into the desktop isnt there
[18:01] <MrOxy> from windows and ubuntu which one is better?
[18:01] <jrib> dtcrshr: I know, I already went through everything with you last time
[18:02] <fsufitch> Pici: thanks, that worked!
[18:02] <dtcrshr> jrib: oh ok, sorry bothering you again
[18:02] <dsenator> ChogyDan, i did and here is the process http://imagebin.org/235577
[18:02] <PineappleCLock> Can anyone assist with a DNS problem? I can't seem to get Ubuntu server to 12.04 to resolve domain names - however I can do it manually via nslookup
[18:02] <magesing> Hi everyone, I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on a sotware RAID setup... The most recent ubuntu docs. I can find on software raid are about ubuntu 9.10. Where can I find documentation on how to install ubuntu 12.10 on a software RAID?
[18:02] <jrib> dtcrshr: honestly, the only that made sense to me was that there was another partition, an encrypted home that was no longer getting mounted, or some other sort of mount that stopped functioning (like a network share?)
[18:03] <CarlFK> what is the name of an app that will wipe a disk?  (other than dd... looking for something GUI... and friendly...)
[18:03] <ChogyDan> dsenator: the partial upgrade of course.  Keep running partials then upgrades till no more updates
[18:03] <dsenator> ChogyDan,  then this http://imagebin.org/235578 when i said to run partial run partial
[18:03] <dsenator> so i will go ahead
[18:03] <ChogyDan> dsenator: yep
[18:04] <Christian_M_> cloudy, anyway, do you think that problem is caused by java?
[18:04] <dsenator> ChogyDan, thanks for the help here... I will wait and see and let you know how it turns out
[18:04] <dtcrshr> jrib: this note was used mostly offline. Is there a way to double check if the files were encripted?
[18:04] <ChogyDan> dsenator: good luck
[18:05] <YokoBR> hey guys, the only 3D driver i could manage to make it work here was the open source ati driver.... why can't i just enable my 3D support from the proprietary driver?
[18:06] <dtcrshr> jrib: well, i got the notebook here with me right now. ill boot with another live boot to browse
[18:06] <apoliten> hi all
[18:06] <jrib> dtcrshr: there's something like .ecryptfs in /home or /home/username usually.  Check the docs
[18:06] <jrib> !encrypt | dtcrshr
[18:06] <StaR_ClusterS> help for Intel® Core™ i3-2120 Processor ,video driver real ?
[18:06] <StaR_ClusterS> ?
[18:07] <PineappleCLock> hello I set up pptpd and now I cannot lookup hosts what could be wrong
[18:08] <StaR_ClusterS> hel me !
[18:08] <StaR_ClusterS> help for Intel® Core™ i3-2120 Processor ,video driver real ?
[18:08] <OerHeks> StaR_ClusterS, videodriver for a cpu ? what is ypur videocard ? open terminal:  lspci | grep VGA
[18:09] <StaR_ClusterS> OerHeks yes for cpu HD 2000 ...
[18:10] <OerHeks> StaR_ClusterS,  open terminal: "  lspci | grep VGA  " ( and past that on-line her)
[18:11] <StaR_ClusterS> ok reboot 5 min
[18:13] <arvislacis> How to re-enable notification?
[18:13] <gustav__> Can anyone help with getting down jbd/sda activity on disk?
[18:14] <cloudy> Christian_M_, that would be my first guess.
[18:15] <davanger> hello, i need some help install ufw in a VPS
[18:16] <Praxi> anyone recomend a good replacement for LDAP Browser on ubuntu?
[18:16] <gustav__> Praxi: apt-cache search ldap
[18:17] <pochefuok> hello... how can i install gnome 2 themes on my ubuntu 10.04.4 lts??
[18:17] <davanger> I've got a VPS with Ubutu and Im afraid if I install it through aptitude it will activate and automatically block me... I'm connected thourgh ssh
[18:17] <wollowizard> anyone can help me? OSError: libnetfilter_conntrack.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:18] <davanger> by the way my hosting company is not cooperating so I'm basically on my own here...
[18:18] <Guest65245> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:18] <Guest65245> HELP
[18:19] <ubuntufann> hello
[18:19] <peterrus> wollowizard: apt-cache search libnetfilter
[18:19] <peterrus> wollowizard: install what seems fitting
[18:19] <ubuntufann> can some1 help me to record a cd with music for my car im with ubuntu
[18:20] <peterrus> ubuntu you can do that with brasero for example
[18:20] <peterrus> ubuntufann:
[18:20] <ubuntufann> but im not sure that my car read mp3 and etc ...
[18:20] <peterrus> davanger: what do you mean?
[18:21] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:21] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:21] <peterrus> ubuntufann: it has an option for burning an ´Audio-CD´
[18:21] <Praxi> thanks gustav__ way too much information though, I just want a ldap explorer, like ldap browser :)  Not neccesarily every programming languages 10 different LDAPlibraries hehe
[18:21] <peterrus> Praxi: true, but that command often helps you find packages
[18:21] <gustav__> Praxi: You have to look through that list. :)
[18:21] <Praxi> was hoping to cut through some chaffe and see if others liked a particular one :)
[18:22] <llutz> davanger: idk about ufw default rules but this might help you (install but don't run it) http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5387067&postcount=7
[18:22] <peterrus> davanger: I can strongly advise you not to fiddle with firewalls unless you know its ins and outs
[18:22] <wollowizard> peterrus, libnetfilter-conntrack3 seems ok but I already have it installed
[18:22] <peterrus> davanger: read some documentation
[18:22] <TheLordOfTime> davanger, unless you know what you're doing, don't mess with the firewall
[18:22] <peterrus> wollowizard: which program are you trying to start?
[18:22] <zhorko> hey
[18:23] <wollowizard> peterrus, mallory
[18:23] <peterrus> TheLordOfTime: I second that
[18:23] <zhorko> I have skype problem it won't start unless it starts from terminal
[18:23] <wollowizard> peterrus, python program
[18:23] <peterrus> wollowizard: is it an application from the official ubuntu repository?
[18:23] <wollowizard> peterrus, no cloned from git
[18:23] <zhorko> anyone with a solution
[18:23] <josefig> is there a way that sudo can say "operation not permitted" ? on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[18:23] <peterrus> wollowizard: then that question might not be related to this channel.
[18:23] <StaR_ClusterS> OllieN, help
[18:24] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:24] <peterrus> wollowizard: I suggest asking the developer of that specific application
[18:24] <OllieN> StaR_ClusterS, what? :P
[18:24] <zhorko> hey someone with solution to my issue?
[18:24] <Christian_M_> cloudy, i am trying to installa by tar, can u help me yet?
[18:24] <Akuw> i just god a CACERT certificate,now i want to installit on LibreOffice
[18:24] <wollowizard> peterrus, ok, thanks!!!
[18:24] <peterrus> wollowizard: these depency problems are handled by the official ubuntu repositories, so your version of mallory is not within that scope
[18:24] <peterrus> basicly meaning, there is nothing ´we´ can do about it
[18:25] <peterrus> which is not true, because the problem probably is just that you compiled something wrong
[18:26] <peterrus> wollowizard: are you trying to run a binary from that git repository or have you compiled whatever you´re trying to run yourself?
[18:26] <wollowizard> peterrus, being python, i just copied the entire repo and tried to run the file they indicate...
[18:26] <peterrus> wollowizard: are you sure something within that is not trying to run some binary supplied outside of the official ubuntu packages?
[18:26] <Q-tio> hi, I need some help with commandline-ubuntu. i need to conf ubuntu to gateway for my Mitm-study
[18:26] <peterrus> some helper program maybe
[18:27] <zykotick9> Akuw: you might want to try the #libreoffice channel for something so specialized (or maybe you'll be lucky and someone where knows)
[18:27] <Q-tio> or should I just jump to arch for that.
[18:27] <Akuw> thanks
[18:27] <lonewulf85> Does anyone know how to enable verbose start up in ubuntu 12.04 every time it starts
[18:28] <wollowizard> peterrus, I only see python files... but I don't know what it does exactly
[18:28] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: remove "quiet splash" from boot perhaps?  that should disable plymouth.  or use "text".
[18:28] <peterrus> wollowizard: python files should be no problem (.py)
[18:28] <peterrus> dont know about compiled python files (.pyc)
[18:29] <wollowizard> peterrus, but they should be generated automatically by the interpreter, right?
[18:29] <lonewulf85> zykotick9: I will look and see if that would do it thanks>
[18:29] <peterrus> wollowizard: not sure about that, my python knowledge does not reach that far :p
[18:29] <peterrus> you would expect that yes
[18:30] <wollowizard> peterrus, yeah, I think so... I'm not sure either, but it is only some kind of optimization
[18:30] <rjune> I would like empathy to play audio alerts on events.
[18:30] <peterrus> wollowizard: you could always try this: https://github.com/intrepidusgroup/mallory/issues
[18:31] <peterrus> and see if someone replys
[18:31] <rjune> The per application volume control for empathy is set very low.
[18:31] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: see "/msg ubottu grub2" for a links to the wiki for details.  short version, edit /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub"
[18:31] <rjune> Unfortunately it only shows up when empathy is playing a sound.
[18:31] <rjune> How can I turn it up?
[18:31] <peterrus> wollowizard: have you used this? https://github.com/intrepidusgroup/mallory/blob/master/mallory_install.sh
[18:32] <peterrus> rjune: make it play a longer sound? use a custom sound file as notification or call someone
[18:32] <wollowizard> peterrus, yeah... It seems I solved it. In the official repo there is version 3... this prog was looking for version 1... i just made a sym link with the right name
[18:32] <peterrus> wollowizard: pretty dirty hack, but it might suit ;)
[18:32] <wollowizard> peterrus, not sure it will work, but at least it runs
[18:32] <davanger> so if there is a rule in /etc/ufw/applications.d should I assume that it will respect that?
[18:32] <peterrus> wollowizard: do expect segfaults
[18:33] <PineappleCLock> HELP! I can't get ubuntu to use my DNS servers
[18:33] <cloudy> Christian_M_, sorry, not at the moment, family is calling ;)
[18:34] <wollowizard> peterrus, I do!!! Dirty hack for a dirty work I'm trying to do... I'm trying to test the security of some applications using ssl, with a man in the middle attack... I don't know where to start!!!
[18:34] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not sure man-in-the-middle attack stuff is on topic here
[18:34] <peterrus> wollowizard: you might want to use Backtrack for that, if the livedvd contains your tool it probably works out of the box
[18:34] <peterrus> spares a lot of time configuring and makes you get things done
[18:34] <peterrus> I should do some sales
[18:34] <peterrus> >_>
[18:35] <wollowizard> ok thanks a lot
[18:35] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:35] <peterrus> wollowizard: any questions about it will be gladly answerred there, I hope XD
[18:35] <doug1> Anyone know how I can set the target directory for deb file build by fakeroot?
[18:35] <peterrus> StaR_ClusterS: stop spamming that it makes no sense
[18:35] <peterrus> doug1: read its manpage?
[18:35] <wollowizard> peterrus, thanks again!!!
[18:35] <peterrus> man <program name>
[18:36] <rjune> peterrus, doesn't seem to matter. next event comes in at useless low volume anyway
[18:36] <doug1> peterrus: already have. Not much there. I just can't believe it's not possible.
[18:37] <peterrus> rjune: might be bug then, you can report that and see if more people have the issue
[18:37] <peterrus> doug1: its a very long time since I used that, so I cant help you there
[18:37] <doug1> peterrus: Is there a more up to date way to make debian packages?
[18:38] <StaR_ClusterS> Help for Intel® Core™ i3-2120 video driver for ubuntu 12.10
[18:38] <peterrus> doug1: I wouldn´t know
[18:38] <iheb> \join #hackspace
[18:38] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> doug1, try #ubuntu-packaging
[18:38] <doug1> TheLordOfTime: k
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> (that's a channel by the way)
[18:39] <StaR_ClusterS> help ?
[18:39] <peterrus> StaR_ClusterS: that is not the way this channel works
[18:39] <peterrus> you have to ask a proper question
[18:39] <peterrus> this makes no sense
[18:39] <ikonia> StaR_ClusterS: i3-2120 is not a video card
[18:39] <peterrus> and even if it made sense, you dont spam it
[18:39] <OerHeks> StaR_ClusterS, you might want to add the x-swat ppa for newer intel drivers > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[18:39] <ikonia> why ?
[18:40] <ikonia> why does he need to add that PPA
[18:40] <ikonia> you don't even know the problem or the video card
[18:40] <ikonia> think before pushing random stuff on people
[18:42] <zykotick9> ikonia: s/pushing/suggesting/  but i agree with your point.  suggesting unsupported (ie PPA) solutions right of the bat, is very premature.  especially without any details.
[18:43] <StaR_ClusterS> OerHeks, and ?
[18:43] <StaR_ClusterS> no 12.10
[18:43] <ikonia> StaR_ClusterS: I strongly advise you not to randomly add a PPA
[18:43] <OerHeks> StaR_ClusterS, forget that ppa, we need more details of your problem first
[18:45] <hillary_l> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" ubuntu 11.10
[18:45] <hillary_l> any help
[18:45] <hillary_l> help>> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module"
[18:46] <hillary_l> ubuntu 11.10
[18:46] <thelinux> hillary_l: When this problem occured?
[18:46] <hillary_l> now
[18:47] <hillary_l> am trying to reinstall mysql
[18:47] <ikonia> hillary_l: how ?
[18:48] <bulletrulz> is unity gonna stay there for ever/
[18:48] <hillary_l> hillary@hillary-Mobile:~$ sudo gedit /var/www/index.html
[18:49] <jpds> bulletrulz: Why not.
[18:49] <abdelghani> hello
[18:49] <bulletrulz> cause unity is slow as hell
[18:49] <ikonia> hillary_l: that's not installing mysql
[18:49] <ikonia> hillary_l: that's editing a text file
[18:49] <jpds> bulletrulz: Sounds like you need a faster PC.
[18:49] <ikonia> hillary_l: and you use gksudo to launch X11 apps
[18:49] <bulletrulz> no i need my gnome back lol i installed mate so it run good
[18:50] <jpds> bulletrulz: well, your GNOME is dead and no longer supported by it's upstream developers.
[18:50] <bulletrulz> thats why i use mate
[18:50] <hillary_l> sorry it is apache2
[18:50] <bulletrulz> ubuntu should pick up mate and make like a matebuntu
[18:51] <thelinux> bulletrulz: What is your system configuration? I have dual-core 2.0 GHz, NVIDIA 8400 GS 512 MB, 1 GB RAM DDR2, Unity here runs perfectly fine, really fast.
[18:51] <hillary_l> you are right am editing a text file
[18:51] <bulletrulz> thelinux, netbook
[18:51] <bulletrulz> 1gb ram
[18:52] <bulletrulz> 1.6ghz duel core processer
[18:52] <thelinux> bulletrulz: That's actually great idea, but Mint 13 is running MATE, and Mint is based on Ubuntu. Too bad Unity doesn't run on your netbook, it would be great DE for it, since it saves workspace.
[18:53] <yakeb> hi #ubuntu, i am trying to get dual monitor support to work and am not having any luck. i have an nvidia geforce 8200 onboard and geforce 9400 gt pci. i have tried the drivers from nvidia and i get no video at all. with the default noveau driver i only get a display on one screen. any advice would be appreciated.
[18:53] <thelinux> yakeb: Have you tried to install from software sources, additional drivers tab?
[18:53] <yakeb> btw, kernel is 3.0.0-26 generic and dist is 11.10 oneric.
[18:54] <thelinux> yakeb: Type in dash additional drivers, it should offer download for your graphics card.
[18:55] <bulletrulz> matebuntu when mate gets more stable
[18:55] <yakeb> that was the first thing i tried, when i did that, i had no display at all, when it booted it up, the monitor light on both screens were orange, as though they were not detected at all. i was able to ssh in and roll back, following some instructions i found online.
[18:56] <thelinux> yakeb: Turn off your onboard driver.
[18:56] <hansen> hi
[18:56] <hansen> i took so much viagra
[18:56] <thelinux> yakeb: Turn off your onboard driver with BIOS.
[18:56] <hansen> who wants to rub my erection off
[18:56] <Erik_D> !ot
[18:56] <hansen> hey Erik_D
[18:56] <KI4RO> hansen: not appropriate here!
[18:57] <yakeb> well, i have one monitor plugged in to the VGA port of the onboard, and one plugged into the VGA port for the PCI card.
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> hansen  wrong channel
[18:57] <DarKMode> hansen try puting your d*ck on the power source
[18:57] <dougbb> I have 2 sound cards, the built-in intel, and an hdmi on my graphics card ... previously sound was coming out of the intel card just fine, but now it isn't, and none of the solutions I have found on line have helped
[18:57] <mariella> ciao
[18:57] <yakeb> I tried changing the default graphics card via BIOS and every other configuration imaginable.
[18:57] <mariella> !list
[19:00] <Fuzzles> when i boot my laptop it displays windows 7 and ubuntu but when i click ubuntu it displays a grub version to select how do i get rid of this?
[19:00] <keruna> i am having trouble with ffmpeg. i use this code: find -name '*wma' -exec ffmpeg -i {} -acodec vorbis -ab 128k {}.ogg \;   and when i try and play song i get error:not a vorbis file. I am confused and havent found much googling. Maybe i have but am too simple to know it ;P  help please.
[19:00] <thelinux> DarKMode: Stop. Please.
[19:03] <thelinux> keruna: mplayer -ao pcm -o fileout.wav filein.wma oggenc -vo file.ogg fileout.wav
[19:03] <thelinux> keruna: ffmpeg -i sample.wma -acodec vorbis -aq 100 sample.ogg
[19:03] <anthony_r> Hi folks, the Backup app keeps failing in Ubintu 12.10 (quantal).  Where could I find the logs for the backup app to review?
[19:03] <gazzwi86> I'm using Ubuntu, and trying to get php mail() to work.  I have installed sendmail but still can't seem to get it working.  I can telnet over port 25 so not sure why I'm getting the following error:
[19:04] <gazzwi86> stat=Deferred: Connection timed out with [127.0.0.1]
[19:04] <thelinux> keruna: Sorry, try this: ffmpeg -i sample.wma -acodec vorbis -aq 100 sample.ogg
[19:04] <thelinux> keruna: ffmpeg -i sample.wma -acodec vorbis -aq 128 sample.ogg
[19:04] <derbie> Hello
[19:04] <thelinux> derbie: Hello.
[19:04] <derbie> Can microsoft office 2010 run on ubuntu?
[19:05] <keruna> thelinux: are you saying all four are viable options?
[19:05] <keruna> thelinux: er, three options
[19:05] <thelinux> thelinux: Use last one.
[19:05] <thelinux> thelinux: Locate file, use last one.
[19:05] <thelinux> keruna: Locate file, use last one. Ugh, I was replying to myself.
[19:06] <keruna> thelinux: i know where file is, just trying to do batch operation with the 'find'
[19:07] <ChogyDan> gazzwi86: I tried that years ago.  Turns out, gmail doesnt accept dynamic ips, so it never worked for me.  The whole things seems like a pain more than it is worth
[19:07] <dougbb> I have 2 sound cards, the built-in intel, and an hdmi on my graphics card ... previously sound was coming out of the intel card just fine, but now it isn't, and none of the solutions I have found on line have helped
[19:08] <thatguymeho> oki guys i have a simple problem the resolution is fine but my picture seems to be bigger than the screen
[19:08] <thelinux> derbie: Yes, but with wine. Download wine with Ubuntu Software Center, and install Office with it.
[19:09] <gazzwi86> ChogyDan: how did you get round it?
[19:09] <gazzwi86> as painlessly as possible?
[19:09] <ChogyDan> gazzwi86: well, I was just playing around with php, so I just posted the results to the screen rather than try to mail them
[19:10] <ChogyDan> gazzwi86: ie, I just figured out something different for my needs
[19:10] <gazzwi86> bugger
[19:10] <thatguymeho> anyone for screen problem
[19:11] <gazzwi86> I may try post fix instead
[19:11] <ChogyDan> gazzwi86: what are you trying to do?
[19:11] <thelinux> gazzwi86: Did you port forward?
[19:12] <thatguymeho> my screen resolution seems to be larger than the screen and it should be in the borders how can i fix this
[19:13] <thelinux> gazzwi86: You need to have open specific ports you want to receive connections. Port forwarding is the solution.
[19:13] <gazzwi86> I'm just trying to send mail from php
[19:13] <gazzwi86> I'm used to using cPanel or the like and just using the mail config on that
[19:14] <abdelghani> hello
[19:14] <thelinux> gazzwi86: If your computer acts like server you need to have port forwarded those ports which you're using.
[19:14] <thelinux> abdelghani: Hello.
[19:14] <gazzwi86> thelinux: its a server on rackspace
[19:14] <gazzwi86> I'm not playing locally
[19:15] <Gabor_> Hi all! Can anyone help in data recovering from a repartioned drive?
[19:15] <thelinux> gazzwi86: Sorry than for wasting your time buddy.
[19:15] <yakeb> thelinux: thank you for your help. i will try that and see how it goes.
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> !recover > Gabor_ start here
[19:15] <gazzwi86> thelinux: no worries :)
[19:15] <gazzwi86> thanks for y help
[19:16] <thelinux> Gabor_: I think it˙s possible to do that with GPart.
[19:16] <dtcrshr> jrib: iv followed this guide, since theres no /Desktop folder, as I changed the value to the desktop path to $HOME/Desktop it shows the /home files into the desktop
[19:16] <jrib> dtcrshr: what?
[19:16] <dtcrshr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/182917/desktop-folder-and-files-disappeared
[19:17] <thelinux> drcrshr: What is the problem buddy? I may help.
[19:17] <Gabor_> ubottu: thanks
[19:17] <dougbb> I have 2 sound cards, the built-in intel, and an hdmi on my graphics card ... previously sound was coming out of the intel card just fine, but now it isn't, and none of the solutions I have found on line have helped
[19:17] <Gabor_> thelinux:thanks
[19:17] <thelinux> dtcrshr: What's the problem?
[19:18] <dtcrshr> thelinux: hello! the problem is that after iv updated this notebook from 10 to 12.04, my desktop files were deleted
[19:19] <dr_willis> looked in the Desktop directory? any other files in your home missing?
[19:20] <dr_willis> the upgrade process shouldent be touching anything in the users home.
[19:20] <dtcrshr> no. all my files are there, the folders with music, video, documents all are just fine. only the files I had left on the desktop to easy of use were deleted
[19:20] <dtcrshr> the /home/user/desktop folder are empty, in all users
[19:20] <thelinux> dtcrshr: Did you do clean install? Or direct upgrade from 10.04? Try to move files from Desktop, access them from Home. Than put them back in.
[19:21] <thelinux> dtcrshr: Oh I though you said they were there and you couldn't see them.
[19:21] <dtcrshr> thelinux: no. The installation went popping up that the 10 would be no longer supported, and suggested the update. Iv only clicked up the button
[19:22] <dtcrshr> no, im searching for them via terminal. Iv also tryind to use a know file name I had with "find filename.ext" but its nowhere
[19:22] <dr_willis> it would be the 'Desktop' directory with  a upper case D.  /home/yourusername/Desktop
[19:22] <thelinux> dtcrshr: find | grep desktop
[19:22] <lmat> Do posix tools ever have multiple syntaxes? (synopses)
[19:22] <lmat> How many people are in #bash? Is there a party in there?
[19:23] <thelinux> dtcrshr: Edit this: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[19:23] <fego> dtcrshr: find / -name filename.ext -print 2>dev/null
[19:23] <lmat> I thought I've seen some tools with syntaxes like
[19:24] <lmat> toolname  -i inputfile -o outdir
[19:24] <thelinux> dtcrshr: And make sure everything in that file is like this: XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop"
[19:24] <thelinux> XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Downloads"
[19:24] <thelinux> XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/"
[19:24] <thelinux> XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR="$HOME/Share"
[19:24] <thelinux> XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Documents"XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/Music"XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/Pictures"XDG_VIDEOS_DIR="$HOME/Videos"
[19:24] <dtcrshr> thelinux: well, as I edit this to point up to another folder, since the Desktop (or even desktop) folder inside /home/user/ dont exist, the /home content is displayed on the desktop, already went this path
[19:24] <FloodBot1> thelinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <lmat> and     toolname -p inputdir -d outfile
[19:24] <dr_willis> you coult search faster with the locate command. after you update its database
[19:24] <dtcrshr> thnks fego ill give a shot
[19:24] <lmat> But I can't find any now... I've looked at grep, ls, wget..
[19:24] <dougbb> dtcrshr: you have to recreate the Desktop folders
[19:25] <lmat> hey! there's one... mawk
[19:25] <dtcrshr> dougbb: but where my files went?
[19:25] <fego> lmat: what exactly you are trying to achieve?
[19:25] <dougbb> dtcrshr: no idea
[19:25] <dtcrshr> they are "hidden" before I create the folders? Im scared to create the folder again and it overwrite the files
[19:25] <dr_willis> dtcrshr: look in /lost+found perhaps
[19:25] <dtcrshr> already looked dr_willis
[19:25] <dtcrshr> nothing interesting
[19:26] <thelinux> dtcrshr: Aren't they hidden? Go to Desktop, View, Show hidden files.
[19:26] <fun10small> #CoRaZoN-GyTaNo
[19:26] <dougbb> dtcrshr: If you don't see the folders doing 'ls -l' in a terminal, they are gone
[19:26] <lmat> fego: I'm trying to create a program that will create and explore linux raster fonts.
[19:26] <derbie> thelinux: with wine will i have all the features available in office 2010?
[19:26] <dtcrshr> I have a bunch of pictures, nothing into lost and found
[19:26] <dr_willis> If he has no Desktop directory  that is weird
[19:26] <thelinux> derbie: Yes.
[19:26] <dtcrshr> no thelinux iv tryed ls -lha , lhs, and a bunch of othres
[19:26] <derbie> Thank you
[19:26] <dtcrshr> dr_willis: my installation is in pt_BR, its Area de Trabalho
[19:26] <dtcrshr> but its empty
[19:27] <dougbb> meanwhile ... is there a better channel for me to ask my sound question in?
[19:27] <derbie> Hello jCuber, xubuntu works well, thanks for the recommendation
[19:27] <dtcrshr> there were no change of language in the updating proccess, is was installed on the first place the 10 version already in ptBR
[19:27] <fego> lmat: if you need text manipulation there are native unix like filters available like grep, sed and awk
[19:27] <derbie> jcuber: on amilo pro v3505 i mean
[19:27] <lmat>  fego I don't.
[19:28] <jCuber> derbie, Haha, you're welcome!
[19:28] <lmat> fego: I was looking for a tool that has multiple syntaxes.
[19:28] <lmat> fego: I found one: "man grep" (interestingly grep --help seems to be wrong.)
[19:29] <dtcrshr> fego: your syntaxe gave me an error - "bash: dev/null: file or folder not found
[19:29] <fego> lmat: all the utilities you will find in linux adheres to GNU syntax
[19:29] <cherr> this is a simple question, but i'm  fairly new to ubuntu. how would i go about turning on/off the firewall and configuring it?
[19:29] <ikonia> dtcrshr: /dev/null
[19:29] <fego> dtcrshr: the file is /dev/null
[19:29] <ikonia> dtcrshr: pay attention
[19:30] <KI4RO> .
[19:30] <dr_willis> cherr:  its not on by default
 dtcrshr: find / -name filename.ext -print 2>dev/null
[19:30] <dr_willis> !firewall
[19:30] <lmat> fego: hmm..
[19:30] <dtcrshr> it would be then filename.exe -print /dev/null ?
[19:30] <fego> dtcrshr: sorry it was a typo
[19:30] <lmat> fego: So, is the "PATTERN" parameter to grep required or not?
[19:30] <ikonia> lmat: that's what you are searching for
[19:30] <ikonia> lmat: so "yes"
[19:30] <cherr> how would i turn it on?
[19:31] <mechteam> need help about DNS issue on 12.04 because I am using remastersys dist mode
[19:31] <jrib> cherr: read the documentation ubottu has sent you please
[19:31] <gordonjcp> cherr: don't bother
[19:31] <gordonjcp> cherr: are you running a server?
[19:31] <fego> lmat: grep takes regular expressions or hard coded strings as patterns, you want to search in your input
[19:31] <cherr> oh ok i missed that ubottu, thank you.
[19:31] <cherr> not running a server
[19:31] <gordonjcp> cherr: are you behind NAT?
[19:31] <mechteam> need help about DNS issue on 12.04...is there any package to handle DNS query in simple way
[19:31] <dtcrshr> well, -print /dev/null gave another error, but this only telling the usage of the find command. if i set -print/dev/null it gives a command error
[19:32] <cherr> no
[19:32] <ikonia> dtcrshr: READ the command
[19:32] <fego> dtcrshr: there should be a space after "print"
[19:32] <gordonjcp> cherr: no?
[19:32] <gordonjcp> cherr: how are you connected to the Internet?
[19:32] <dr_willis> cherr: desktop or server.. dosent matter
[19:32] <dtcrshr> ikonia, iv read this <fego> dtcrshr: find / -name filename.ext -print 2>dev/null trying to figure out the typo
[19:32] <ikonia> dtcrshr: show me the exact command you are using
[19:32] <cherr> i'm sorry, i am gordon
[19:33] <ikonia> dtcrshr: cut and paste the exact command you are using
[19:33] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: well, it's only really useful to run a firewall on a machine that is *directly* connected to the world-facing Internet
[19:33] <dr_willis>  2>/dev/null
[19:33] <fego> dtcrshr: find / -name filename.ext -print 2>/dev/null
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> dtcrshr  the slach
[19:33] <gordonjcp> cherr: tbh it's unlikely a firewall will do anything useful for you
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  was faster
[19:33] <dtcrshr> ikonia: find / -name 12M2U00763.MPG -print /dev/null
[19:33] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  tell that to microsoft.   ;)
[19:33] <ikonia> dtcrshr: !!¬!!!!!!!!!
[19:33] <cherr> gordonjcp ok thanks for the help!
[19:33] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: I don't see why they're relevant
[19:33] <ikonia> dtcrshr: 2>/dev/null
[19:33] <ikonia> dtcrshr: why are you not reading the example
[19:33] <jtee> i have a MAXTOR model 6Y060L0 (60G) hard drive that is recognized by BIOS (it's in the boot order map) and is recognized by the ubuntu after boot but not seen by grub.  The command "geometery (hd1)" returns with a no drive found error... Any clues?
[19:33] <dtcrshr> hm, thanks
[19:34] <ikonia> dtcrshr: if you pay this little attention you will fail
[19:34] <jtee> ..after boot, I can even mount the (hd1,0) partition (hdb1) to a mount point, /mnt/test, and see all the windows files
[19:34] <gordonjcp> cherr: basically if you're behind some sort of broadband router that does NAT (which is pretty much all of them) you are sufficiently insulated from the outside Internet and you needn't really care about firewalls
[19:34] <Lawliet9> #
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> jtee: does grub load?
[19:34] <dtcrshr> sorry ikonia i understood that the > were misspelled for the /
[19:34] <dtcrshr> i need both
[19:34] <Lawliet9> #canal
[19:34] <dtcrshr> sorry ikonia fego
[19:34] <mechteam> need help about DNS issue on 12.04 because I am using remastersys dist mode
[19:34] <dr_willis> but MS does their firewalll 'mentality' in the reverse. its to often keep bad apps from affecting the rest of the lan. people think linux works the same way.. but its very different
[19:34] <ikonia> dtcrshr: no, you need the >
[19:34] <jtee> ActionParsnip, I boot through grub
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> jtee: so you do get the grub menu at boot (If you single boot, hold SHIFT at boot)
[19:35] <jtee> ActionParsnip, the geometry command doesn't see the drive and the windows boot (chainloader) command doesn't find the drive
[19:35] <cherr> gordonjcp: ok, i'm more of a hardware guy so networking is something i need to learn more about, but yeah i'm running through a regular router
[19:35] <gaby> hello - i have just installed ubuntu 12.10 but every time i try to access my other HDD or USB ... it says ERROR unable to mount ......any help???????
[19:35] <fego> dtcrshr: "2>" redirects the error messsages to /dev/null file
[19:35] <dr_willis> cherr:  theres no services listening by default normally. so its more locked down by default then how windowx works
[19:35] <jtee> ActionParsnip, so, I am able to look at thinks with the grub cli
[19:35] <dtcrshr> more /dev/null is empty
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> gaby: what filesystem does the partition use?
[19:35] <dtcrshr> so, no errors.
[19:35] <ikonia> dtcrshr: show me the exact command you are using
[19:36] <ikonia> dtcrshr: show me with cut and paste
[19:36] <dr_willis> cherr:  unless you do some port forwarding, you should be safe
[19:36] <dtcrshr> and no files. im desperate. how could possibly an update via command line purge the desktop files from an user?
[19:36] <fego> dtcrshr: /dev/null is a null bucket
[19:36] <gaby> ActionParsnip: NTFS
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> jtee: if you use a chroot from a liveCD, you can upgrade the OS and reinstall Grub to the MBR
[19:36] <cherr> dr_willis: ahh ok, so with this type of os i don't really need to worry as much about protecting from outside in the WAN?
[19:36] <dtcrshr> well, im trying this now - find / -name 12M2U00763.MPG -print 2>/dev/null
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> gaby: when you last unplugged it from a system, did you use the 'safey remove' functionality
[19:36] <dr_willis> cherr:  correct. no services installed to listen = no way to get in
[19:36] <ikonia> dtcrshr: and what is the output
[19:36] <dougbb> dtcrshr: it certainly should not do that, but that's why you're supposed to back up your data before you do upgrades
[19:36] <cherr> dr_willis: yeah not forwarding to my port
[19:36] <dtcrshr> nothing
[19:36] <dtcrshr> goes back to prompt
[19:37] <ikonia> dtcrshr: right, so that file does not exist on your search
[19:37] <dtcrshr> do i need to use sudo?
[19:37] <dtcrshr> ikonia: it was on my desktop before the updates
[19:37] <dr_willis> cherr:  biggest danget i see to a ubuntu box is the user/admin doing somthing silly. ;)
[19:37] <jtee> ActionParsnip, grub is working just dandy... It sits on (hd0) and runs the show fine.  Where would I reinstall grub to?
[19:37] <cherr> dr_willis: awesome, learning a lot i should just sit here and read to learn about stuff haha
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> jtee: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[19:37] <ikonia> dtcrshr: then it should be in the Desktop directory in your home dir
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> jtee: you'd put it in the MBR, the chroot will allow you to run updates and the newer grub may fly better
[19:37] <cherr> dr_willis: haha i understand, thanks for the info
[19:37] <ikonia> dtcrshr: or it should be your desktop now
[19:38] <andreligne> Hi! I'm trying change my output-sound to my USB-headset. It's listed in xfce4-mixer and gnome-mixer but not in pavucontrol. How do I change it to the headset? :)
[19:38] <gaby> ActionParsnip: they are not in another system and not unplugged - its on the same machine here - and also the USB with Fat32 system file ... they are not mountable here . ... and YESSSS i always use SAFE REMOVE
[19:38] <awaad> When using GSettings with Python in order to control what systray icons to appear in my Unity GUI, I get the following error:
[19:38] <jtee> ActionParsnip, it's on the MBR of hd0 already
[19:38] <awaad> Settings schema 'desktop.unity.panel' is not installed
[19:38] <awaad> Any one can help ?
[19:38] <dtcrshr> ikonia: but its not. ...
[19:38] <ikonia> dtcrshr: then it's gone
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> gaby: I suggest you put it in a Windows PC (or boot to Windows if you dual boot) and chkdsk the NTFS partition
[19:40] <dtcrshr> ikonia: does ubuntu register any logs from the update? maybe on the proccess somewhere i can see what deleted the desktop, so I could report this bug
[19:40] <cosmicfires> I'm using 12.4 with Xfce and I have a program's window stuck under the panel at the top of my screen, I tried restarting the program. How can I move the window?
[19:40] <dtcrshr> its a huge problem, a user to be confident using the update system from ubuntu and lost his files
[19:40] <ikonia> dtcrshr: the update process doesn't delete files of your desktop
[19:41] <dtcrshr> but it did!
[19:41] <ikonia> it didn't
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> cosmicfires: if you hold ALT you can drag the app from ANY part of the window
[19:41] <cosmicfires> thanks Action
[19:41] <dtcrshr> there were no time into the update "do you want to delete all your desktop files?"
[19:41] <jtee> ActionParsnip, It is a pretty ancient version of Grub... wish me luck as I upgrade
[19:41] <trism> awaad: can you pastebin the code?
[19:41] <dtcrshr> it simply updated and purged my desktop
[19:41] <ikonia> dtcrshr: no, it didn't
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: in a terminal, if you run:   ls ~/Desktop
[19:42] <mechteam> ActionParsnip i need help about DNS issue on 12.04...is there any package to handle DNS query in simple way
[19:42] <jtee> ActionParsnip, .... says 0.97!
[19:42] <cosmicfires> ActionParsnip it doesn't work
[19:42]  * ActionParsnip bets ikonia that nautilus isn't running :)
[19:42] <trism> awaad: though the schema is actually com.canonical.Unity.Panel so that may be your issue
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> jtee: what release did you install?
[19:42] <jrib> ActionParsnip: i'll take that bet ;)
[19:42] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I'll bet he's just deleted it based on the total lack of attention to detail he was showing when typing find and piping things to /dev/null
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> mechteam: nslookup will query your DNS servers for a name to IP  resolution, if that's what you mean
[19:43] <dtcrshr> ikonia: i just plugged the notebook on our network, and clicked "update"
[19:43] <ikonia> I disagree
[19:43] <dtcrshr> rebooted, updated again, till 12.04. last boot on unity and desktop files were gone
[19:44] <dtcrshr> I would probably backup the desktop folder it in the proccess of updating from gnome to unity the desktop were purged
[19:44] <babyswizz> pls i have been trying to install a package called liblwp-protocol-https-perl_6.03-1_all.deb offline but i get a dpkg dependency error saying i need to install libwww-perl and when i try to install this package offline too i still get a dpkg dependency error saying i have to install liblwp-protocol-https-perl_6.03-1_all.deb. its like the two package depend on each other. what do i do
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: if you press CTRL+ALT+T   and run:   nautilus     do they show?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: Unity isn't a desktop, it's a shell for Gnome
[19:45] <jCuber> babyswizz, you need to install all of the dependencies before you can install the package
[19:45] <cosmicfires> right click on the icon in the panel and choose Move and I can move it
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> cosmicfires: is the partition mounted read only
[19:45] <jCuber> babyswizz, all packages have their own dependencies, which is why people tend to install their packages from apt-get which installs all of the dependencies
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> cosmicfires: or do you mean the panel on the left in Unity?
[19:46] <cosmicfires> I'm not using unity, using xfce
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> cosmicfires: gotcha
[19:46] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: no, it simply opens the nautilus file browser. On my /home/user all other folders are there with theyr content, I just have nothing on the desktop
[19:46] <cosmicfires> I figured out how to do it, just right click on the window's icon
[19:46] <babyswizz> jcuber, in this case it seems two dependencies actually depend on each other, how then do i install these two dependencies
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: are there files in the Desktop folder?
[19:47] <jCuber> babyswizz, Install them at the both time?
[19:47] <jCuber> babyswizz, *same time
[19:47] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: so, considering the only thing done was the update, the files should be on the computer any other place. The desktop folder is empty
[19:47] <babyswizz> j cuber how do i install both at the same time
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: even if you show hidden files? Just to cover bases
[19:48] <billbear> orang indonesia ada ?
[19:48] <dtcrshr> well, im trying via terminal, iv searched with ls -lha
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> !id
[19:48] <dtcrshr> and ls -lhs
[19:48] <jCuber> babyswizz, "dpkg -i package1 package2"
[19:48] <dtcrshr> the personal folder and files were not encripted
[19:48] <keko> hello
[19:49] <jCuber> !id | billbear
[19:49] <andreligne> I wanna play sound through a device that is listed with aplay -l, but isn't available in pavucontrol
[19:49] <andreligne> Any ideas on how to do that?
[19:49] <keko> what is the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: if you run:   sudo updatedb   then use 'locate' to find file names you know that should be on the desktop
[19:49] <dtcrshr> hmm ill do that
[19:50] <jCuber> keko, xchat-gnome is more of a stripped down version of the original xchat
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: why store data on the desktop, thats a really messy way to store data
[19:50] <BrainPaid> hello
[19:50] <jCuber> BrainPaid, Hi!
[19:50] <babyswizz> jcuber thanks so much
[19:50] <Fatguy> anyone know much about the network management in 12.10 server(GUI) i'm only able to modify properties in one of my connections
[19:51] <keko> thanks <jCuber
[19:51] <BrainPaid> Can I make a question?
[19:51] <jCuber> babyswizz, No problem! Remember, Google is your friend!
[19:51] <jCuber> keko, No problem mate
[19:51] <BrainPaid> I installed kubuntu (kde) under the ubuntu 11.10.
[19:51] <episteme> morning everyone! quick vsftpd question (already tried in #vsftpd, but no response). I'm getting a critical error when trying to connect with a local_user. What causes this and how can i change it? This is a fresh install and the only changes i made to the .conf file are turning off anonymous and turning on local enable. TIA
[19:52] <BrainPaid> I installed kubuntu (kde) under the ubuntu 11.10. I want back to ubuntu. How?
[19:52] <jCuber> episteme, What kind of error are you getting? If it's along one, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:53] <episteme> BrainPaid: you should be able to choose the environment you want at login
[19:53] <BrainPaid> Mans? Can you answer my quest?
[19:53] <BrainPaid> I installed kubuntu (kde) under the ubuntu 11.10. I want back to ubuntu. How?
[19:53] <episteme> jCuber: simply getting Critical error. Could not connect
[19:53] <billbear> halosemua
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> BrainPaid  logout, select ubuntu, login
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: log off, log into the original session
[19:54] <BrainPaid> But I want back to Unity.
[19:54] <episteme> jCuber: so i switch anonymous back on and logged in and it worked find. I'm only getting this with local enable set to yes and anonymous set to no
[19:54] <BrainPaid> But I want back to Unity.
[19:54] <BrainPaid> But I want back to Unity.
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: then select that at the login screen
[19:54] <BrainPaid> I want uninstall kde and I back to Uniity
[19:55] <BrainPaid> I know yours answers
[19:55] <Stuz719> brainpaid, i'm with actionparsnip on this. uninstall kde using synaptic once you've logged in in a different environment
[19:55] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: I tottally agree with you. Desktop shouldnt be a place to work with files, since documents, music, video folders are there and helps the user to separate its files. But its like this, iv convinced this user to go for ubuntu, since he was using some pirate software and ubuntu would suit him just fine. So iv installed on his notebook ubuntu about an year ago. Since them he is a happy user, i cant possibly worry if he is using the
[19:55] <dtcrshr>  desktop, a pendrive, his documments folder and so on. Since he received a message form the update manager that his version would not be supported, and worried about the update proccess he gave me the notebook to update. I have just plugged it up, into my personal user, and started the update proccess, that I almost didnt worried much, only clicked up the "update" button once in a while between the reboots. When he came here to get his cpter
[19:55] <dtcrshr> back, logged up into his user, the desktop were unity, and there were no files there. First think was checking via terminal, on his /home/user/desktop folder
[19:55] <dtcrshr> whici was empty
[19:55] <FloodBot1> dtcrshr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <Stuz719> i think
[19:55] <BrainPaid> Basic uninstalling is leaves bugs.
[19:55] <BrainPaid> Basic uninstalling is leaves bugs.
[19:56] <dtcrshr> I did nothing, and im into a very bad situation, since I never imagined that an update went this far to delete user files from the /home folder
[19:56] <xangua> !puregnome | BrainPaid drop the attitude ;)
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> BrainPaid  uninstall is not needed, just select the other DE
[19:56] <gordonjcp> dtcrshr: it shouldn't, tbh
[19:56] <BrainPaid> xangua: :D
[19:56] <gordonjcp> dtcrshr: are you *sure* you updated and didn't format the /home partition?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: is your system damaged, it keeps pasting the same thing twice
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: I'd look into that
[19:56] <xangua> BrainPaid: you are more like a brainpain :)
[19:57] <BrainPaid> MonkeyDust
[19:57] <BrainPaid> please wait ahead I give a link for you
[19:57] <dtcrshr> gordonjcp: its not an install. no boot with cds or pendrives, the update were made totally via the ubuntu interface
[19:57] <Fatguy> anyone know much about the network management in 12.10 server(GUI) i'm only able to modify properties in one of my connections
[19:57] <dtcrshr> no partition quetions, just the next next update manager doing his job
[19:57] <gordonjcp> dtcrshr: and ~/Desktop is now totally empty?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: if you run:   sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | {awk 'print $2'} | grep kde`
[19:57] <BrainPaid> http://forum.ubuntu-tr.net/index.php/topic,21324.0.html
[19:57] <Stuz719> dtcrshr always good idea to back up before major changes, and test your backup works
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: it will remove all the kde apps
[19:58] <BrainPaid> mans, I saw yours answers but my english is bad
[19:58] <BrainPaid> :(
[19:58] <Stuz719> and don't save everything on the desktop. This ain't Windoze! LOL
[19:58] <jCuber> Fatguy, Try #ubuntu-server
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: its a terminal command
[19:58] <BrainPaid> I am not answer the all answes.
[19:58] <BrainPaid> yea
[19:58] <BrainPaid> its corrupt
[19:58] <dtcrshr> Stuz719: sure thing.
[19:59] <BrainPaid> 11.10's uninstalling code is corrupt.......
[19:59] <Stuz719> backups are only good if you can restore them. test, test and test again
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: it basically finds all the package names with 'kde' in them and removes them, it will also make other kde apps fail deps and be marked as 'to be removed'
[19:59] <zykotick9> Fatguy: are you getting a "not managed" message?
[20:00] <Stuz719> brainpaid - why does it matter if you uninstall? just select different DE at login
[20:00] <dtcrshr> Stuz719: but at this point, its will sure be easy to tell the user "you should backup your files", or "you shouldnt use the desktop to keep your files"
[20:00] <dtcrshr> Stuz719: but its no fault from the user or from me since the normal update simply purged the desktop
[20:00] <BrainPaid> actionparsnip THANKS A LOT MAN :)
[20:01] <ax562> can someone please help me with changing my wlan0 channel?
[20:01] <sublime83> ?
[20:01] <Stuz719> no fault... but a salutory lesson in data management
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> BrainPaid  and after that, do 'sudo apt-get autoremove'  (without the quotes)
[20:01] <dtcrshr> this update proccess should not be recommended or something, its really really bad to delete user files into an update, not espected by anyone to keep feets behind doing updates
[20:01] <yoghrt> Hello, I Installed Ubuntu 12.10 64bit in UEFI mode and after restarting  laptop i get "Failed to verify image with *ACCESS DENIED" instead of  grub and then it boots Windows 8. I tried boot-repair but didn't help.  Any Ideas?
[20:01] <ax562> been looking but solutions found do not work
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> ax562: you change it in the router, then the clients will need to reconnect
[20:01] <ax562> im trying to change it in terminal
[20:02] <jrib> dtcrshr: do another update.  Record that some files on your desktop actually exist.  Then do the update.  If the files are actually deleted, file a bug.
[20:02] <ax562> i found it a method that worked last night but cant find it again
[20:02] <sublime83> q
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> ax562: you will need to change it in the router first, you may be able to telnet or ssh to the router and configure it
[20:03] <ax562> i know its a sequence of ifconfig and iwconfig
[20:03] <jCuber> ax562, "iwconfig wlan0 channel 11"
[20:03] <babyswizz> i am having problems playing musics on my ubuntu linux, anytime i try playing a music file i get an error message saying python(v2.7) requires to install plugins and i dont know the particular package to install
[20:03] <ax562> jcuber should my wifi adapter be dissabled?
[20:03] <dtcrshr> jrib: ill do this. ill get the 10.04 iso to make the same steps
[20:03] <ax562> i tried that and it did not work
[20:03] <awaad> trism: I got the value as a GVariant Object <GLib.Variant(['all'])>. How can I get the ['all'] list ?
[20:04] <ax562> let me try again
[20:04] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  the askubuntu.com site had that exact question and answer i saw it the other day.
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> ax562: yes, simply telling the client to use a different channel will sever the link. You need to set the desired channel in the router first
[20:04] <scared> when i try to install virtualbox i get this and why?
[20:04] <scared> virtualbox-4.2:i386 : Depends: libcurl3:i386 (>= 7.16.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
[20:04] <scared>                        Depends: libpython2.7:i386 (>= 2.7) but it is not going to be installed
[20:04] <scared>                        Depends: libqt4-network:i386 (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not going to be installed
[20:04] <scared>                        Depends: libqt4-opengl:i386 (>= 4:4.7.2) but it is not going to be installed
[20:04] <FloodBot1> scared: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <scared>                        Depends: libqtcore4:i386 (>= 4:4.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
[20:04] <awaad> trism: I am searching for some thing like GVariable.get_boolean() but for lists.
[20:04] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  they showed some fix . its aparently some odd bug in a config
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> ax562: then when you scan for the network, it will be seen on the new channel and connected to, simply telling the client to use a different channel doesn't make the router suddenly switch. It doesn't work like that
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> scared: think about if even 4 people did that, how useless would the channel be?
[20:05] <babyswizz> dr willis what exactly am i to do cause am new to linux
[20:06] <ax562> what was that command again  jcuber
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> scared: as well as how useless the text would be as it mases into everybody else
[20:06] <t0ken> anyone seen problems lately w/icedtea and updates?   I'm gettin this now: http://pastebin.com/q1p7aQTW
[20:06] <ax562> dam irssi
[20:06] <dtcrshr> jrib: is there any specific update logs I could search into this box?
[20:06] <jCuber> ax562, See my private message
[20:06] <jrib> dtcrshr: no
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:06] <jrib> dtcrshr: updates only install new package versions and packages will never touch your home
[20:07] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  go to askubuntu.com type in the main parts of thet eror message in the search field. i saw that exact problrm and the fix was given.   im on my phone so i cant cut/paste/find it for you
[20:07] <awaad> trism: Are you here?
[20:07] <jCuber> ax562, If you can't see the message, "iwconfig wlan0 channel (channel number)"
[20:09] <babyswizz> thanks dr willis
[20:12] <soman> HI all. Are there any apps for website monitoring for changes?
[20:12] <jCuber> soman, What kind of changes and where?
[20:13] <sebastian__> Hello, I have some problem with gnome-shell.
[20:13] <sebastian__> I was installing this >> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/157/left-message-tray/ and now gnome-shell is not working
[20:13] <awaad> Any one knows how extract python list from GVariant Object, such as: <GLib.Variant(['all'])>
[20:13] <soman> I want to monitor text changes and links
[20:14] <sebastian__> http://wklej.org/id/869258/
[20:14] <sebastian__> Text from the terminal
[20:15] <dougbb> I have 2 sound cards, the built-in intel, and an hdmi on my graphics card ... previously sound was coming out of the intel card just fine, but now it isn't, and none of the solutions I have found on line have helped
[20:18] <jtee> ActionParsnip, yay.... I'm now running grub2... booo... it still can't see the Maxtor drive... (the drive is fine and seen AFTER boot however!)
[20:20] <sebastian__> if someone have, I need that file: /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.shell.extensions.left-message-tray.gschema.xml
[20:20] <jlsdf> i have lubuntu inside of a virtualbox vm and i installed the guest additions, but my list of resolutions from xrandr doesn't show my native resolution 1440x900 (i do see 1440x1050)
[20:20] <sebastian__> it is from Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-shell
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> jlsdf:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759    make an xorg.conf and set the resolution manually. Strange to want it fullscreen.
[20:23] <trism> awaad: yes sorry, why are you using Gio.Settings.get_strv or something
[20:23] <trism> awaad: ?
[20:23] <trism> awaad: sorry that should be why aren't you
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> jtee: is it a SATA HDD?
[20:25] <awaad> trism: What should get_strv() do ?
[20:25] <trism> awaad: will return to a list of strings, which is appropriate for the systray-whitelist key
[20:26] <david-goodger> Help! I have a boot problem: the boot screen stops at "error: symbol not found: 'grub_video_get_in'" and a "grub rescue>" prompt. I have a system rescue CD on USB, but no idea what to do next. Any pointers?
[20:26] <awaad> trism: Thanks very much. It worked
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> david-goodger: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   you can use that to chroot and check your Grub config
[20:27] <david-goodger> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[20:28] <awaad> trism: But I don't see any set_strv() function for GVariant.
[20:28] <BrainPaid> Mans, good bye :)
[20:29] <trism> awaad: you shouldn't need to use variants directly, I'll pastebin an example
[20:30] <babyswizz> pls am trying to play a music file on ubuntu and get an error message saying python(v2.7) requires to install plugins and i dont know the particular package to install
[20:30] <jrib> babyswizz: how are you trying to play the file?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: install ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[20:32] <trism> awaad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354038/
[20:32] <milestone> hi folks i have a problem with a precise server, which hangs after printing Running /scripts/init-bottom
[20:32] <milestone> there does not seem to be an error
[20:32] <milestone> i have let the machine run for a day and still no luck
[20:32] <babyswizz> i already installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package deb file and i still get the same error
[20:32] <milestone> what is happening after /scripts/init-bottom ?
[20:32] <ikonia> milestone: define hangs
[20:33] <milestone> ikonia: nothing happens anymore
[20:33] <ikonia> milestone: does the server hard lock  ?
[20:33] <milestone> ikonia: no
[20:33] <lov> Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to install applets. The instructions say to right-click an empty part of the panel, which is what I used to do before unity, but nothing seems to happen when I do it now.
[20:33] <lov> s/install/load/
[20:33] <ikonia> milestone: can you switch ttys ?
[20:33] <milestone> ikonia: if i do ctrl-alt-del it say [OK]
[20:33] <lov> I've already installed several applets via apt-get, but I have no idea how to put them on my tray/.
[20:33] <milestone> ikonia: did not try. does that matter?
[20:33] <ikonia> milestone: it may give you more info
[20:34] <milestone> ikonia: i have booted a rescue system and mounted the disk
[20:34] <milestone> ikonia: but i need to fix the boot process
[20:34] <ikonia> do what I said then
[20:34] <jtee> ActionParsnip, no  it's an old ATA IDE drive
[20:34] <trism> lov: unity does not support applets, you can add additional indicators though, but you either run them from the command line for appindicators or they autostart when unity runs
[20:34] <milestone> ikonia: ok hang on
[20:34] <milestone> ikonia: any special tty you want me to switch to?
[20:34] <ikonia> no
[20:34] <ikonia> look around
[20:34] <babyswizz> action parsnip i already installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package deb file and i still get the same error
[20:35] <milestone> ikonia: ok just a sec
[20:35] <magesing> Hi everyone, I just installed ubuntu 12.10 desktop, but the bootloader didn't load it when I restarted. I have booted back into the system via the installation medium (usb). How do I go about fixing the bootloader?
[20:35] <trism> lov: might help to specify what package you installed (for instance, indicator-multiload needs to be started manually, usually adding it to gnome-session-properties)
[20:35] <jtee> ActionParsnip, I may just end up cloning the drive to a 'newer' one and seeing if grub can handle it better.
[20:35] <lov> trism: indicator-multiload actually.
[20:35] <lov> trism: I'm a little baffled at how I'm supposed to start it manually, however.
[20:36] <awaad> trism: Note that GVariant.get_strv() returned a tuple not a list.
[20:37] <awaad> trism: It returned (['all'], 1L)
[20:37] <trism> lov: you can search for it in the dash, then run it, and in the preferences check autostart if you want it to start up autmatically
[20:37] <milestone> ikonia: the only one i can switch to is f7 which prints nothing alt-f1 brings me back to the initial boot screen
[20:37] <trism> awaad: yes but not from Gio.Settings, it returns a list
[20:37] <matiu1981> ciao
[20:37] <matiu1981> !list
[20:37] <trism> awaad: my point is you do not need to work directly with the variants if you just want to manipulate gsettings
[20:37] <matiu1981> ok....
[20:38] <ikonia> milestone: look at the initbottom script (or marker in the main script)
[20:38] <milestone> ikonia: do you know where it is?
[20:38] <milestone> ikonia: /boot/scripts?
[20:38] <awaad> trism: I got it. Really I appreciate your help.
[20:38] <ikonia> milestone: in the init directory or upstart directory, I do'nt have an ubuntu machine here to check which
[20:39] <milestone> ikonia: ok
[20:39] <ikonia> milestone: /boot/scripts ??? that doesn't even exist
[20:39] <Chais> hi
[20:39] <milestone> ikonia: that was just a wild guess since i thought it only had /boot mounted (maybe just through grub you know)
[20:39] <milestone> ikonia: just a wild guess
[20:40] <milestone> ikonia: stupid me sorry
[20:40] <ikonia> milestone:  /boot onlt contains the kernel
[20:40] <Chais> I'm trying to change the background for lightdm, but can't get dconf-editor to start as user lightdm
[20:40] <milestone> ikonia: and initrd and stuff System map etc.
[20:40] <ikonia> milestone: that's the kernel stuff
[20:41] <Chais> the display can't be opened because "no protocol [is] defined"
[20:41] <Chais> trying to make the change via gsettings doesn't work either
[20:42] <lov> trism: but that's the thing; it doesn't show up when I search for it, it doesn't seem to tab-complete, and I have no idea what I should call to start it.
[20:42] <milestone> ikonia: true
[20:42] <Chais> am I missing some environment variables?
[20:42] <lov> trism: .... ok, nevermind. That's bizarre. I could have SWORN that I ran apt-get install on it.
[20:43] <lov> trism: working now, thanks.
[20:43] <anything> Does ubuntu come with options for full encryption?
[20:43] <milestone> ikonia: /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom is empty :-(
[20:43] <ikonia> yes
[20:44] <ikonia> milestone: ok, so look at what's next in the sequnnce
[20:44] <ikonia> milestone: although thats init-ramfs , are you sure htat's what it's executing
[20:44] <milestone> ikonia: i am regenerating all initrd's
[20:44] <cpm84> Hi!
[20:44] <milestone> ikonia: yes
[20:44] <ikonia> milestone: why ?
[20:45] <milestone> ikonia: because during the upgrade /boot grew too large (100%)
[20:45] <milestone> i guess something might be screwed there
[20:45] <cpm84> Is there any way to get the sound working on a dual screen setup (the second monitor is connected through hdmi and should play the sound)
[20:45] <cuddylier> hi
[20:45]  * Hypernova is on ubuntu now :)
[20:45] <Hypernova> hi cuddylier
[20:46] <Chais> cpm84: pulseaudio should be able to handle that. just choose the output device accordingly
[20:46] <cuddylier> How do I block a certain port on a certain Ip? I tried this command '/sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d 198.15.69.172 --dport 1080 -j DROP' but I can still connect to the port
[20:46] <cpm84> Chais, thanks i'll try
[20:46] <ikonia> cuddylier: that's output
[20:46] <Hypernova> cuddylier,  i dunno
[20:46] <cuddylier> Oh wait, I'm silly aint I
[20:46] <ikonia> cuddylier: use ubuntu firewal
[20:46] <ikonia> firewall
[20:46] <ikonia> !ufw | cuddylier
[20:47] <awaad> trism: Does this save the new list as the key only for the period in which my program is running ?
[20:48] <Valortek> how do i modify network connection properties if they are grayed out? I'm using 2 connections, the first I can modify, the second I can't
[20:48] <GregMathis> I just installed 12.04, how do i move the panel to the bottom and put the hide buttons on the side?
[20:48] <cuddylier> Blocked input as well and still works :(
[20:49] <thelinux> GregMathis: You can't, atleast for now.
[20:49] <GregMathis> thelinux, please tell me thats a joke
[20:49] <awaad> trism: Please check the following code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354074/
[20:49] <awaad> trism: After running this code more than one time, I got the following output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354077/
[20:50] <GregMathis> thelinux which version was the last to let you do that?  I'm happy i found this out right after installing
[20:50] <thelinux> GregMathis: Nope, reason is I guess because it would ruin the look and feel of Unity.
[20:50] <Chais> those are the reasons I use Arch...
[20:50] <ikonia> cuddylier: -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport -j reject (drop should work too)
[20:51] <gilgulis> Hi - I just bought a laptop that runs ubuntu, not really knowing much about it. I'm juuuuust starting to feel my way around. Am I going to be able to use Hulu Plus or Netflix?
[20:51] <Valortek> netflix won't work on ubuntu
[20:51] <khem-> Do Ubuntu have support for Mobile Internet (3G) post-install? I tried with Fedora, but it only works in the LiveUSB mode.
[20:51] <trism> awaad: no it should save it to dconf, that is pretty strange
[20:51] <GregMathis> thelinux, so how far back to i need to go to be able to get the customizeable version?
[20:51] <Chais> ikonia: DROP has the upside of silently ignoring the package, while REJECT says: I'm here, I don't likke you
[20:52] <ikonia> Chais: I'm aware of what it does
[20:52] <cuddylier_> ikoniaI I only want to block the port 1080 on a certain IP
[20:52] <thelinux> GregMathis: I don't think Unity can be customized like that, not even previous versions, maybe some hacks, but something nice and clean no.
[20:52] <gilgulis> Hulu Plus says it has a desktop app for Linux, but when I download it, the icon does not appear
[20:53] <GregMathis> thelinux, there is a way, i had 10.something and you could customize it
[20:53] <GregMathis> thelinux, pretty cool too, you could move the panels all to the bottom, hide them heck you could even make your own panels -yoiu would have liked it
[20:53] <thelinux> GregMathis: 10.04 LTS and 10.10 have Gnome 2.x as DE, Later versions use Unity.
[20:54] <trism> awaad: what happens if you run: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"; from a terminal?
[20:54] <DarKMode> guys is 12.10 is realy stable ?
[20:54] <GregMathis> thelinux, i dunno i just download ubuntu not familiar with unity...
[20:54] <awaad> trism: Note also that using dconf-editor I see two schema which should make such configuration: "desktop.unity.panel" & "com.canonical.panel"
[20:54] <thelinux> GregMathis: And Gnome 2.x is dead project now, but there exists now MATE which is fork of Gnome 2.x
[20:54] <GregMathis> thelinux, so 10.10 is the last one to use the whatever it is tghat allows you to customize the panel?
[20:55] <gilgulis> am I basically out of luck trying to use subscription video streaming?
[20:55] <ikonia> GregMathis: mate is just as dead though too
[20:55] <thelinux> GregMathis: 10.10 is no longer supported.
[20:55] <awaad> trism: And in my code you provided me third one which doesn't appear in dconf-editor
[20:55] <ikonia> GregMathis: using the gnome2 codebase in any way is a dead end
[20:55] <melkor> Okay, for a specific hard drive housing mounting the drive in ubuntu ruins the data. Is there anyway to get this fixed?
[20:55] <Valortek> gilgulis: if you install a virtual machine with windows on it you can use netflix but other than that I don't know of any other way
[20:55] <GregMathis> ikonia, i wonder why they would move to making it less customizable - am i missing something or wording it wrong?
[20:56] <ikonia> GregMathis: who ? make what less customisable ?
[20:56] <ChogyDan> GregMathis: have you tried Mint?  I think they are trying to recreate some of the stuff you might miss on gnome3
[20:56] <GregMathis> ikonia,  im talking aboutn the thing  on the top of my screen that says applications, places, etc... i dont want that at the top of my screen i want it on the bottom
[20:56] <Rayden>  /server 87.118.124.140 10007
[20:56] <trism> awaad: well gsettings schemas have both a name (com.canonical.Unity.Panel) and a path, which in 12.10 is /com/canonical/unity/panel but which ib prior versions was /desktop/unity/panel
[20:56] <ikonia> GregMathis: what ?
[20:56] <thelinux> GregMathis: If you really like Gnome 2.x use Ubuntu 10.04 LTS which will be supported until 2013 April. But you can install XFCE on Ubuntu 12.04 which is similiar to Gnome 2.x
[20:57] <gilgulis> valortek: thank you, I'll look into that but probably would defeat the purpose of having a simpler, more stable machine
[20:57] <zykotick9> GregMathis: debian stable, still uses gnome2 and will be supported for longer then ubuntu 10.04... just pointing out another option.
[20:57] <awaad> trism: The previous command worked very well as you can see from here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354092/
[20:57] <gnels> !list
[20:57] <GregMathis> zykotick9, anything debian based that is similar to ubuntu?
[20:57] <trism> awaad: the path is what is used in dconf-editor (since it is used for actually storing the key), but shouldn't really make a difference when using the gsettings interface
[20:58] <GregMathis> zykotick9, i just want debian based with large community that allows you to use gnome
[20:58] <trism> awaad: very strange, which ubuntu version is this?
[20:58] <milestone> ikonia: when i am in the rescue system, is there a way to start an upstart service by hand?
[20:58] <Valortek> how do i modify network connection properties if they are grayed out? I'm using 2 connections, the first I can modify, the second I can't
[20:58] <thelinux> zykotick9, GregMathis: Debian is little harder to use for newer users, I would recommend to be with Ubuntu 10.04 until it's supported.
[20:58] <awaad> trism: 12.04
[20:58] <GregMathis> zykotick9, almost seems 10.04 is best bet
[20:58] <GregMathis> thelinux, thanks i think thats what im gonna do
[20:58] <ikonia> service $whatever start/stop
[20:59] <cuddylier_> See the cpu displayed in 'top' for a process, is that the true cpu level?
[20:59] <milestone> ikonia: start <service> does not work, because it cannot communicate with the private socket
[20:59] <cuddylier_> As in e.g. 150% means 1.5 cores used
[20:59] <thelinux> GregMathis: Why don't you first try XFCE on Ubuntu 12.04, it's similiar to Gnome 2.x
[20:59] <gustav__> cuddylier_: Yep.
[20:59] <GregMathis> thelinux, before i go if i install it from a netbook is there anyway to force it not to do the netbook remix?
[20:59] <ikonia> milestone: what is the exact command you are using ?
[20:59] <cuddylier_> Okay :(
[20:59] <trism> awaad: let me test my script there, maybe it is different (it is working on 12.10)
[20:59] <GregMathis> thelinux, i have tried xfce on older ones i cant see it being better than gnome
[20:59] <zykotick9> !notunity | GregMathis
[20:59] <milestone> ikonia: service mysql start
[21:00] <gustav__> cuddylier_: CPU frequency might not be max or whatever, though. If you have a processor with speedstep style tech.
[21:00] <ikonia> milestone: sudo ?
[21:00] <awaad> trism: Okay, I am waiting for you.
[21:00] <milestone> ikonia: i am root
[21:00] <GregMathis> zykotick9, i have installed those and select those while logging inm but stil do not do anything when i right click the panel
[21:00] <earl3982> hi... i have a window that somehow moved off screen.. how can i get that window back on the display?
[21:00] <ikonia> milestone: root is disabled on ubuntu
[21:00] <milestone> ikonia: i am in a rescue system with the shell dropped to root
[21:00] <thelinux> GregMathis: Try MATE.
[21:00] <Akuw> is there any software to sign pdf files using my digital certificate?
[21:00] <designbybeck> what is the command to see what video card I'm running?
[21:00] <zykotick9> GregMathis: for customiability, both unity and gnome3 are not your friends...
[21:00] <ikonia> milestone: what is the exact error
[21:01] <awaad> trism: I discovered some thing. After rerunning the script multiple times, it worked very well
[21:01] <gaby> any body knows how to solve this problem ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354095/
[21:01] <Akuw> lspci
[21:01] <GregMathis> zykotick9, damn just the panel  you'd figure that would be something easily moved
[21:01] <thelinux> GregMathis: Try MATE, you can install it right there on 12.04. It's fork of GNOME 2.X
[21:01] <trism> awaad: oh I think I know what the issue is
[21:01] <milestone> ikonia: it is a rescue system, and i am mounting the root and boot partition under /mnt and then chroot into the system
[21:01] <guntbert> I am missing "privacy" in System Settings - please see http://imagebin.org/235600 - or must I look somewhere else?
[21:01] <trism> awaad: it isn't working for me either there
[21:01] <ikonia> milestone: why ?
[21:01] <Chais> GregMathis: or Cinnamon, if you prefer the technical part of gnome-shell
[21:02] <ChogyDan> gaby: erm, maybe buy a new hdd
[21:02] <InspectorCluseau> designbybeck, lshw
[21:02] <designbybeck> so somehing like lshw | grep video InspectorCluseau ?
[21:02] <GregMathis> sweet thanks for the help trying those suggestions now
[21:02] <InspectorCluseau> sounds good
[21:02] <milestone> ikonia: because my system hangs after init-bottom
[21:02] <milestone> ikonia: i need to dump my db and resetup the system
[21:03] <trism> awaad: you need to run the mainloop briefly on 12.04 otherwise the dbus messages don't get sent and the setting is never updated
[21:03] <ChogyDan> gaby: did you install Ubuntu onto NTFS?
[21:03] <tota> hi
[21:03] <ikonia> milestone: what is the exact error when you try to start it
[21:03] <milestone> ikonia: it prints simply nothing
[21:03] <gaby> ChogyDon:  maybe if i use one external HD i would believe what you say :)  - but it happens with every partition i use internal or external
[21:04] <thelinux> GregMathis: Try Cinnamon like they suggested, it's great and customizable.
[21:04] <trism> awaad: my ugly quick example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354104/
[21:04] <ikonia> milestone: ok, so if you just want to dump the db, start mysqld manually, connect to it and dump it
[21:04] <zykotick9> GregoryFenton: be aware, cinnamon is NOT supported in #ubuntu
[21:04] <milestone> ikonia: when i run init 2  i am getting init: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[21:04] <gaby> ChogyDon: no - its by linux format
[21:04] <ikonia> init 2 ????
[21:04] <milestone> ikonia: yes because the init process is not running
[21:04] <ikonia> why are you running init 2??
[21:05] <milestone> because upstart depends on init
[21:05] <ikonia> sorry, I'm strugglging to grasp what you are doing, I thought you wanted to dump your mysql db
[21:05]  * zykotick9 points out, if init isn't running = system isn't running.
[21:05] <milestone> ikonia: basically it is simple i need to make my service available again
[21:05] <gilgulis> basic question, completely new to non-Windows - what should I be looking at for virus protection?
[21:05] <milestone> ikonia: and yes all i want to do is simply start the db in the same way upstart does this
[21:05] <dtigue> Does anyone know if I will run into any problems if I were to install qingy ?
[21:05] <zykotick9> !virus | gilgulis
[21:06] <ikonia> milestone: just start mysqld manually and take a dump/export
[21:06] <milestone> ikonia: before upstart and with sysv scripts you would simply run /etc/init.d/mysql start
[21:06] <gilgulis> sweet, thank you
[21:06] <awaad> trism: What statement solved the problem? "GLib.idle_add(Gtk.main_quit)" or "Gtk.main()"
[21:06] <milestone> even when in rescue mode
[21:06] <ikonia> milestone: you can't do that now
[21:06] <ikonia> it's more complex and pointless
[21:06] <milestone> ikonia: i know but there is an /etc/init/mysql.conf
[21:06] <milestone> it has a pre-start and post section
[21:06] <ikonia> milestone: what's that got to do with anything ?
[21:06] <ikonia> just start mysqld
[21:06] <trism> awaad: Gtk.main() runs the mainloop, idle_add with main_quit tells the mainloop to exit after it finishes processing all pending messages
[21:07] <ikonia> take a dump/export
[21:07] <trism> awaad: you'd probably want to use the gobject mainloop instead but the gtk one is quicker to type and I was feeling lazy
[21:07] <heftig> could someboyd with a (largely) unmodified ubuntu please tell me the output of "ulimit -l"?
[21:09] <amayer_> question: im on Ubuntu 12.04. I just check for updates and noticed that some of my updates arent checked. does this mean they arent needed?
[21:09] <amayer_> example: ffmpen(checked), libav-tools(unchecked), libproxy1(checked), libswscale2(unchecked)
[21:09] <thelinux> heftig: Mine output is: 64
[21:09] <trism> awaad: the issue is that dbus needs to send the messages telling gsettings to update the value, this may be automatic with the changes in 12.10 but for 12.04 you appear to still need to do it explicitly
[21:09] <heftig> thelinux: thanks.
[21:09] <sacrebleu> is anyone familiar with mounting shared folders in a virtualboxed ubuntu?
[21:09] <awaad> trism: Ahaa, I got it.
[21:10] <melkor> your bug reporting process sucks.
[21:10] <compdoc> ty
[21:10] <dtigue> Is anyone in here familiar with qingy ?
[21:10] <zykotick9> melkor: are you using "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME" to report it, and do you have a Launchpad account?
[21:11] <melkor> zykotick9: I have a launchpad account. there is no package.
[21:11] <compdoc> amayer_, open a term window and type: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                  Is anything held back?
[21:11] <thelinux> dtigue: Login manager?
[21:11] <zykotick9> melkor: there is "ALWAYS" a package... ;)
[21:11] <sysboot> so
[21:12] <melkor> zykotick9: when I tried to mount a hard drive the data was corrupted.
[21:12] <amayer_> compdoc, what do you mean held back?
[21:12] <sysboot> I just got games working under ubuntu
[21:12] <melkor> zykotick9: what package is that kernel?
[21:12] <sysboot> and steam
[21:12] <dtigue> thelinux: uh, yea its login manager, kind of
[21:12] <compdoc> amayer_, the ones you mentioned
[21:12] <sysboot> STEAM O_O
[21:12] <sacrebleu> is anyone familiar with mounting shared folders in a virtualboxed ubuntu?
[21:12] <melkor> zykotick9: Why can't I report a bug the same way I would any other launchpad application?
[21:12] <thelinux> sysboot: Yes I have runned Steam too.
[21:12] <zykotick9> melkor: i'm not sure.  are filesystem support only kernel?  i don't know.  is this a fuse issue?
[21:12] <ikonia> melkor: you'll need a lot more data than that for it to be a valid bug
[21:12] <WDKevin> I have what looks like the 0-byte file problem on ext4 file systems. I have tried to remount the drive with data=writeback but it does not look like anything is different. Is this data recoverable?
[21:12] <thelinux> sysboot: What seems to be the problem?
[21:13] <zykotick9> melkor: what filesystem was involved?  how was it mounted?
[21:13] <Chais> sacrebleu: you need to install the guest extensions. then you can just add them to fstab or mount them manually. man page tells you how
[21:13] <melkor> zykotick9: ntfs and ext4
[21:13] <zykotick9> melkor: ok.  well, best of luck - don't reply to me further, i won't see it.
[21:13] <thelinux> sysboot: Are you here? What seems to be the problem?
[21:13] <melkor> zykotick9: it was mounted automatically
[21:14] <guntbert> I am missing "privacy" in System Settings - please see http://imagebin.org/235600 - or must I look somewhere else?
[21:14] <sacrebleu> nevermind it was just delayed .. worked
[21:14] <jrib> !bug | melkor
[21:14] <sacrebleu> not that any of you cared or helped
[21:14] <Chais> I'm trying to change the background for lightdm, but can't get dconf-editor to start as user lightdm
[21:14] <Chais> the display can't be opened because "no protocol [is] defined"
[21:14] <DJones> guntbert: Its there on my 12.10 system
[21:14] <thelinux> guntbert: It should be located in personal section, try typing in dash privacy.
[21:14] <dr_willis> vbox docs cover it well last i looked
[21:14] <Chais> trying to make the change via gsettings doesn't work either
[21:15] <jrib> dr_willis: as long as I can remember, yep
[21:15] <melkor> ikonia: valid or not, it is an area where ubuntu causes actual damage. If you borrow somebodies hard drive after you use it the data is lost.
[21:15] <Chais> seems to be some dbus issue, but I can't seem to figure out what it is
[21:15] <trism> guntbert: do you have activity-log-manager-control-center installed?
[21:15] <DJones> guntbert: Comparing to mine, you're also missing "Online Accounts" in the personal section
[21:15] <melkor> ikonia: it is documented on the comment section of amazon, and I would report it if possible.
[21:16] <ikonia> melkor: please stop talking FUD, unless you KNOW ubuntu caused the problem, please stop
[21:16] <guntbert> DJones: thx for pointing that out
[21:16] <amayer_> compdoc: it says there are packages held back, they are all the same packages.
[21:16] <ikonia> melkor: you've done nothing but tell me a disk has been corrupted, that could be for any number of reasons
[21:16] <amayer_> what does this mean?
[21:16] <dr_willis> Chais: you could find the image and just edit it. or i recall some tweak tools let you change ut.
[21:16] <melkor> ikonia: what do you mean unless I know.
[21:16] <Rizon> games for linux visit www.penguspy.com
[21:16] <melkor> ikonia: yes, I am trying to file a bug report so it can be tracked down.
[21:16] <Chais> dr_willis: where would I have to look?
[21:16] <compdoc> amayer_, can you pastebin.org the results?
[21:16] <guntbert> trism: looking
[21:16] <ikonia> Rizon: please don't spam
[21:16] <ikonia> melkor: you have no idea why it happened,and provided no details
[21:17] <ikonia> melkor: how can you expect anyone to even debug it, let alone prove it's valid/notvalid
[21:17] <melkor> ikonia: what sort of details would you like. It was repeatable.
[21:17] <DJones> guntbert: Another one missing under the system section "Management Service"
[21:17] <dr_willis> Chais:  i think /usr/share/backgrounds
[21:17] <babyswizz> pls am try to play media files on my ubuntu linux and error saying python(v2.7) requires to install plugins and i dont know what package to install
[21:17] <cuddylier_> Why wont '/sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d 192.168.1.2 --dport 1234 -j DROP' work to block a certain port? I am hosting a minecraft server if that affects anything
[21:17] <johnnyonflame> Hello there everybody
[21:17] <melkor> ikonia: I formated the drive to ext4, unplugged it and plugged it back in. Not formatted anymore.
[21:17] <Chais> dr_willis: well, ok that's the background, but there's more. want to get rid of the grid
[21:17] <gordonjcp> melkor: did you unmount correctly before you unplugged it?
[21:17] <melkor> ikonia: you don't have to be a prick about it though, you can ask  questions.
[21:17] <ikonia> melkor: a GOOD descrription of the problem, how it's corrupted, (file system / partition / file )
[21:17] <amayer_> compdoc: http://paste.debian.net/208708/
[21:17] <melkor> gordonjcp: yes.
[21:18] <Chais> and hide guest login and perhaps a user
[21:18] <rootpt> I have a problem with my steam account, it says "This version of steam is currently in closed beta. Login with an enrolled account to continue." who can i fix that ?
[21:18] <ikonia> melkor: don't call me names, and don't use that language
[21:18] <melkor> ikonia: you set the bar with your FUD comment.
[21:18] <johnnyonflame> may I ask, I need some help configuring dhcpd to give IPs to devices I am connecting to my notebook
[21:18] <guntbert> trism: no, did you suggest to install it or warn against?
[21:18] <compdoc> amayer_, that doesnt show what command you used
[21:18] <ikonia> melkor: because you are talking FUD
[21:18] <dr_willis> Chais: webupd8 or omgubuntu had the exact tweak for that... i always remove that grid
[21:18] <TheLordOfTime> anyone know how to diagnose a grub 'error: file not found' error?
[21:18] <johnnyonflame> I'm getting No subnet declaration for wlan1 (no IPv4 addresses).
[21:18] <Chais> what's wrong with a good old plain-text config file...?
[21:18] <trism> guntbert: it is up to you, that package provides the control-center privacy panel
[21:18] <ikonia> melkor: you need to validate abd provide information
[21:18] <ikonia> melkor: slating ubuntu when you have no idea where the fault is is speading FUD
[21:19] <amayer_> compdoc: like you said "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:19] <guntbert> trism: aah :-)
[21:19] <melkor> ikonia: I am using ubuntu, I do not know if it affects other distrubutions.
[21:19] <dr_willis> rootpt: see postings on steam on omgubuntu or webupd8 blog site
[21:19] <melkor> ikonia: I would like to report the bug.
[21:19] <ikonia> melkor: you know nothing about the bug, yet you're complaining it's ubuntu's fault, this = FUD
[21:19] <ikonia> melkor: report the bug then
[21:20] <babyswizz> pls am try to play media files on my ubuntu linux and error saying python(v2.7) requires to install plugins and i dont know what package to install
[21:20] <rootpt> dr_willis: can u give me the urls?
[21:20] <rootpt> please.
[21:20] <awaad> trism: What about adding this code to my Desktop Application which already contains Gtk.main(), I think adding GLib.idle_add(Gtk.main_quit) will make the application to exit before it starts.
[21:20] <dr_willis> rootpt: typu in omgubuntu in your browser..........
[21:20] <stellamaya> hello
[21:20] <trism> awaad: oh if your application already has a main loop then you don't need the quick and dirty workaround
[21:21] <Chais> dr_willis: omgubuntu has an entry referred to 11.10, which still uses the config file
[21:21] <trism> awaad: GLib.idle_add(Gtk.main_quit) is only there to exit the mainloop when the script is done, otherwise it would keep running until you manually killed it
[21:21] <rootpt> dr_willis: ok, i will see that, thanks a lot man
[21:21] <jrib> babyswizz: I'll repeat my question to you many minutes ago.  How are you trying to play media files?
[21:21] <babyswizz> jcuber can you pls help me with my problem?
[21:21] <compdoc> amayer_, thats rare when that happens. you might want to read this:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/216371/apt-get-dist-upgrade-doesnt-fix-the-following-packages-have-been-kept-back
[21:22] <kostkon_> rootpt, add the steam icon in your launcher, right click on it, select something from the list, dang it works!
[21:22] <melkor> gordonjcp: I originaly though the problem was because I  didn't unmount it. But I reformated the drive and tried again. It always loses all of the data with ext4 and with ntfs it gets corrupted immediately.
[21:22] <guntbert> trism: now I do have it installed - the "system settings" window seems unaffected :-(
[21:22] <melkor> gordonjcp: I don't even need to physically unplug the  device I can just mount/unmount.
[21:22] <trism> guntbert: strange, is this from unity?
[21:22] <TheLordOfTime> is there a boot repair program in the repos I can use to repair boot?
[21:22] <jrib> melkor: what ubuntu version? All updates installed? Can you replicate on another device?
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> or to diagnose boot issues from Live environments?
[21:23] <amayer_> compdoc: could these packages have been disabled when i installed Ubuntu-restricted extras and it had to remove libav* stuff
[21:23] <rootpt> kostkon_: ok, i will try that, thanks a lot
[21:23] <guntbert> trism: yes - I'll try with a different user
[21:23] <compdoc> amayer_, did you use a different repo, and then truned off that repo?
[21:23] <melkor> jrib: all updates are install, or were at the time. I did not try it on another device.
[21:23] <compdoc> turned off
[21:23] <melkor> jrib: the hd works fine from windows on this device.
[21:23] <jrib> melkor: and my first question?
[21:23] <amayer_> compdoc: nope
[21:24] <melkor> jrib: 12.04
[21:24] <amayer_> compdoc: this is a work computer so i didnt do too much extra to it
[21:24] <lmat> When I provide a font file to setfont that doesn't have a chodepoint mapping, what is the default mapping?
[21:24] <compdoc> amayer_, what happens if you type:  sudp apt-get autoremove    ?
[21:24] <compdoc> sudo
[21:24] <jrib> melkor: i'd start by replicating the issue on a different device
[21:24] <mike_buntu> what up
[21:24] <mang0> !grub
[21:25] <babyswizz> can anyone help me with using my usb modem on ubuntu linux 12.10 i cant seem to use it
[21:25] <melkor> jrib: I am not going to corrupt the data again. I use the drive at the moment. I want to report the bug. I know of at least one other instance where this occured.
[21:25] <amayer_> compdoc: http://paste.debian.net/208710/
[21:25] <melkor> jrib: I don't know if they filed a bug report though.
[21:25] <MetalWolf> I have a raid 5 array with a failed disk.  I have failed the disk and deleted it. rebooted the system and now its stuck at initramfs prompt and I can't get it to boot up any further?
[21:25] <rootpt> kostkon_: thanks man, now i can open the chat, thanks a lot ;)
[21:25] <jrib> melkor: this channel is for support.  If you want to report a bug, report it.  I've given you the link already on how to report bugs
[21:26] <mixnovich> whoami
[21:26] <kostkon_> rootpt, np
[21:26] <gocan76> hi to all !!!!
[21:26] <cuddylier_> When I block a port via iptables, does it take affect immediately?
[21:26] <trism> guntbert: do you get an error if you run: gnome-control-center activity-log-manager; from a terminal?
[21:26] <isambart> bonsoir a tous
[21:26] <jrib> melkor: if you're not sure about some specific step in reporting the bug, #ubuntu-bugs can help with that
[21:26] <ikonia> cuddylier_: if iptables is running
[21:27] <cuddylier_> Oh wait
[21:27] <cuddylier_> How do I make it run?
[21:27] <cuddylier_> lol
[21:27] <compdoc> amayer_, sorry, I havent done you much good. Not sure why thats happening. Keep asking in here, or try the mailing list
[21:27] <gocan76> can i ask a question ?
[21:28] <compdoc> you just did
[21:28] <amayer_> compdoc: thanks anyway
[21:28] <babyswizz> pls can anyone help me with using my usb on ubuntu linux, it keeps disconnecting after a few seconds when ever i connect
[21:28] <guntbert> trism: no, but gnome-control-center doesn't start either
[21:28] <MetalWolf> anyone have any suggestions on how to get it back up and working ?
[21:28] <cuddylier_> ikonia Is there a command to start them or are they already running by default?
[21:28] <trism> guntbert: doesn't start?
[21:29] <ikonia> cuddylier_: look at iptables -L to see the status of your rules
[21:29] <melkor> jrib: The page you suggested tells me to run ubuntu-bug without a package name. After I fill out the questions I end up getting a statement "use ubuntu-bug <PACKAGE-NAME> to file a bug for the specific package."
[21:29] <gocan76> does exist for ubuntu a program similar to plsql/developer ?
[21:29] <ikonia> cuddylier_: you could just use ubuntu firewall as I stated earlier to keep this simple for you
[21:29] <jrib> melkor: what's your question?
[21:29] <cuddylier_> ikonia It looked more confusing lol
[21:29] <cuddylier_> Can you give me link again?
[21:29] <ikonia> no
[21:30] <babyswizz> pls can anyone help me with using my usb modem on ubuntu linux, it keeps disconnecting after a few seconds when ever i connect
[21:30] <lewq> Hey guys.  Stupid multi-monitor question in 12.10.  I unplug my second monitor, and the windows that were on the second monitors becomes unreachable.  I can't move the mouse to alt-drag rescue them, and they don't get automatically repositioned.  How do I get them back?!
[21:30] <melkor> jrib: I want to file a bug because  my hd gets corrupted when I mount it in ubuntu.
[21:30] <jrib> melkor: you're still not asking a question...
[21:30] <invariant> lewq, good question.
[21:31] <invariant> lewq, I can describe a hack, but that would only work if you know how to program.
[21:31] <lewq> invariant: it's frustrating, because I have a lot of windows open, and then I want to change location to a place where I don't have a second monitor.
[21:31] <melkor> jrib: how do I file a bug when I don't know the package name.
[21:31] <babyswizz> jirib pls answer mine
[21:31] <zykotick9> babyswizz: wait a half hour or so, before repeating questions.  every 2 minutes is WAY too often, wait for different people to join/pay-attention ;)  best of luck.
[21:31] <dr_willis> lewq: that spread out view lets you drag them atiund i think
[21:31] <lewq> invariant: I'm a fairly advanced Python programmer, so hit me...
[21:31] <guntbert> trism: on the second try it starts, with WARNING **: Could not load setting panel "activity-log-manager": Unknown error
[21:31] <lewq> dr_willis: which "spread out view"?
[21:32] <jrib> melkor: ah.  Well my advice would be to make a best guess.  Eventually it will be triaged to help pick the package.  #ubuntu-bugs may give you better advice though, check there.
[21:32] <invariant> lewq, you just want them to be moved to one monitor, correct?
[21:32] <lewq> dr_willis: do you mean expo?  Because that only lets me drag them around *before* I've unplugged the monitor.
[21:32] <cristian_> hello
[21:32] <invariant> lewq, or do you want to remember the window positions?
[21:32] <cristian_> codeblocks won't let me run my c code
[21:32] <cristian_> permission denied error
[21:32] <babyswizz> pls can anyone help me with using my usb modem on ubuntu linux, it keeps disconnecting after a few seconds when ever i connect
[21:33] <cristian_> pls help
[21:33] <trism> guntbert: not preceeded by Could not find settings panel 'activity-log-manager' ?
[21:33] <cuddylier_> ikonia If I enabled ubuntu firewall would it not block my ssh?
[21:33] <invariant> lewq, via wmctrl you should be able to do anything you want.
[21:33] <lewq> invariant: well, yes - I have multiple workspaces, I wouldn't mind the 11.04/Gnome2 behaviour of smushing them randomly and messily onto the first monitor of each workspace.  Remembering the window positions and moving them back smartly when I plug the monitor back in would be heavan.
[21:33] <lewq> er, heaven.  :)
[21:33] <ikonia> cuddylier_: not if you set the rules
[21:33] <melkor> jrib: thanks, I am checking there atm.
[21:33] <cuddylier_> ikonia But I can't if I enable it and my ssh gets blocked
[21:33] <invariant> lewq, you should send this in as a bug report.
[21:33] <trism> guntbert: if so that is strange, maybe it is missing a dep
[21:33] <cristian_> anybody can help me?
[21:33] <cuddylier_> ikonia I only have ssh access as it's a dedicated server in a datacentre
[21:33] <invariant> lewq, and mark it as a feature request.
[21:33] <ikonia> cuddylier_: you check the rules before you enable it
[21:34] <cuddylier_> I want to allow all ports apart from ones I specify to be blocked
[21:34] <cristian_> echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
[21:34] <ikonia> cuddylier_: is this a VPS by any chance ?
[21:34] <invariant> lewq, not many people disconnect monitors, but for a layman GUI like unity, these things should work out of the box.
[21:34] <cuddylier_> No, dedicated server
[21:34] <guntbert> trism: (looks like I am too blind today for anything serious)  - it *is* preceded by "could not find" - did I make a typo?
[21:34] <invariant> lewq, if you want to do it by hand, you need to check udev for monitors going bye bye,.
[21:34] <cuddylier_> Ikonia All ports are open currently as the host just opens them all like all hosts do
[21:35] <babyswizz> no one seems to have the answer to my problems
[21:35] <invariant> lewq, all the other information can be obtained via wmctrl.
[21:35] <lewq> invariant: quite a few people who have an external monitor also use their laptops in places which aren't their desk.  :)
[21:35] <cristian_> i am a f***ing noob, and I want to run mi c code on codeblocks
[21:35] <ikonia> cuddylier_: so setup ufu or iptables to manage the rules
[21:35] <ikonia> cuddylier_: there is no need for that language
[21:35] <awaad> trism: Where should I put GLib.idle_add(Gtk.main_quit) in my application ?
[21:35] <cuddylier_> What language?
[21:35] <ikonia> cuddylier_: sorry- not you
[21:35] <ikonia> cristian_: there is no need for that language
[21:35] <lewq> invariant: okay, tell me more... does wmctrl give me structured data about where each window is, and let me relocate them?  And udev will let me get an event for hotplugging the VGA cable?
[21:35] <cuddylier_> :D
[21:35] <cristian_> ok
[21:36] <awaad> trism: When I added it just before the part that changed gsettings configuraitons, the application disappears
[21:36] <trism> guntbert: are you sure you installed activity-log-manager-control-center? apt-cache policy activity-log-manager-control-center; it provides both the .desktop file and the module
[21:36] <invariant> lewq, structured enough
[21:36] <cristian_> help?
[21:36] <trism> awaad: you don't need to add it at all in a gtk application, just run your application as normal
[21:36] <invariant> lewq, it will probably be around 50 lines of shell code.
[21:36] <cristian_> permission denied error with codeblocks
[21:36] <guntbert> trism: let me check again
[21:36] <trism> awaad: though I'm sure your app already has a main_quit somewhere, maybe on the destroy callback?
[21:37] <cristian_> i've google it, but i can't get it straight
[21:37] <lewq> invariant: can you point me at some code which uses the tools you described in a similar way?
[21:37] <invariant> lewq, wmctr has a manpage.
[21:37] <lewq> I'm reading it
[21:37] <invariant> lewq, wmctrl
[21:37] <invariant> lewq, I think it's documented good enough.
[21:37] <invariant> lewq, udev is your biggest problem.
[21:38] <cristian_> hello?
[21:38] <cristian_> is there anybody in there?
[21:38] <invariant> lewq, if you really care a lot about the problem, you should just start with udev.
[21:38] <grkblood> just finished my hotplug audio switcher. man, that was a bitch.
[21:38] <ikonia> 1400+ people
[21:38] <cristian_> hahaha and nobody helps me
[21:38] <lewq> invariant: I care about it enough to spend 30 minutes writing python to try and solve it.  And http://pyudev.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ is a thing.
[21:39] <invariant> lewq, it will take more than 30 minutes and if not, please send me private message.
[21:40] <Gallomimia> uhhhh wow. i really screwed up my ubuntu install on a vps. not sure what to do about it now
[21:40] <invariant> lewq, nice library, though. I just always used the shell interface to it.
[21:40] <guntbert> trism: sorry, I had only installed activity-log-manager (missed the -control-center part), now i have the privacy settings again - no idea how I lost them - thx for holding my hand :-)
[21:40] <jrib> Gallomimia: you could always reinstall...
[21:40] <mang0> Hey, I'm following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub to fix GRUB, and when I run `sudo grub-install /dev/sdb` it says  "Cannot find  a device for /boot/grub, are you sure /dev is mounted?"
[21:40] <mang0> What should I do?
[21:40] <trism> guntbert: no problem, glad it's working now
[21:41] <jrib> Gallomimia: but... how did you screw it up?
[21:41] <zykotick9> mang0: you haven't chrooted correctly.  there is a handful of mounts you need, for grub to work.
[21:41] <Gallomimia> i think that's the best idea, but i'm thinking i'd like to try to fix it in another way
[21:41] <Gallomimia> jrib the only thing i did was apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:42] <mang0> zykotick9: I have to chroot? Oh. I've got no idea what I'm doing then, I just followed ubottu's link...
[21:42] <invariant> What can you do when you hit a kernel bug on a remote VPS? Just remotely reset power? Can you also go into single-user mode to fix things, etc.?
[21:42] <lewq> invariant: wouldn't it be better to spend my time looking at how to patch Unity to fix my problem?  I'd be interested at least to see where the "what to do with window locations when monitor configurations change" code is.
[21:42] <Gallomimia> also, it's 11.04 and i can't seem to run do-release-upgrade tdue to lack of ram
[21:42] <lewq> invariant: What I'm missing, of course, is any knowledge about the shape or structure of the underlying codebase.
[21:42] <jrib> Gallomimia: umm, wow.
[21:42] <Gallomimia> invariant: there's usually a vnc/console access on vps's
[21:42] <invariant> lewq, that would benefit more Ubuntu users and it would probably be maintained then.
[21:42] <zykotick9> mang0: ubottu's link SHOULD work!  but you obviously don't have /dev mounted properly.  you can't just run this directly from a LiveCD...
[21:42] <jrib> Gallomimia: how much ram do you have?
[21:43] <lewq> invariant: do you have any insight into where/what the surrounding code is?
[21:43] <invariant> lewq, but ideally, there would be a library which does these things independent of the DE.
[21:43] <Gallomimia> jrib: yes indeed. there were presented to me approximately 2 dozen config files which apt-get could not determine what to do with. i refused changes. the ram is... um 256 or less i think
[21:43] <GregMathis> what is the last version of ubuntu that has the gnome looking interface where you can move or hide the panels(like have both of them on the bottom)?
[21:43] <invariant> lewq, I have no special knowledge about Unity.
[21:43] <mang0> zykotick9: Would it be to much for me to ask for you to walk me through this?
[21:44] <zykotick9> GregMathis: 10.04 is only supported gnome2 ubuntu install... and only for a number of months!
[21:44] <jrib> Gallomimia: wait, so since do-release-upgrade couldn't run you decided to upgrade in a different way?
[21:44] <shomon> hi, rhythmbox keeps dying on my computer :( what can I do? is there a better or more stable player to try?
[21:44] <lewq> invariant: well if I were to write a standalone utility, it would be a Twisted daemon which maintains a representation of window locations, listens for udev events and then manipulates window locations accordingly.
[21:44] <zykotick9> mang0: sorry, i can't.  i'm not familiar with current ubuntu practises on the matter.  sorry.
[21:44] <Gallomimia> no just upgraded as usual.
[21:44] <GregMathis> zykotick9, but what is the worst that means? the futurte apps wont work for it?
[21:44] <jrib> Gallomimia: what does "upgraded as usual" mean?
[21:44] <lewq> so e.g. if I unplug my monitor with firefox on screen 2, it moves it to screen 1, but then if I plug my monitor back in and I haven't moved firefox, it goes back to where it was on screen 2.
[21:44] <mang0> zykotick9: Bother. Okay, thanks, I'll try to find a decent guide!
[21:45] <GregMathis> zykotick9, or just that for gnome issues ill need to hit the #gnome channel instead of this one? what exactly about it is going ot be unsupported?
[21:45] <lewq> The sort of stuff I imagine works really well on a Mac.  ;)
[21:45] <zykotick9> GregMathis: when lucid support is dropped = you should stop using that install!  no security updates!
[21:45] <Gallomimia> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade i figured that only did standard upgrades and kernel updates
[21:45] <jrib> Gallomimia: what's in your sources.list?
[21:45] <grkblood> if i wrote a script that I think a lot of people would find to be useful where could  I post it?
[21:45] <GregMathis> zykotick9, wow ubuntu is startingt to make me sad-
[21:45] <GregMathis> zykotick9, is there any dist that is what ubuntu used to be?
[21:46] <lewq> GregMathis: end-of-life is not an unusual concept for a software product.
[21:46] <zykotick9> GregMathis: ubuntu made me sad a long time ago ;)  debian...
[21:46] <melkor> Gallomimia: What is the problem with your ubuntu now?
[21:46] <Gallomimia> it has no sshd running
[21:46] <lewq> invariant: I'll have a go with the udev library and wmctrl.  Thanks for your help.
[21:46] <Gallomimia> in fact it wouldn't boot at all for awhile. i sent a ticket which isn't responded to yet but it boots
[21:46] <melkor> Gallomimia: so you cannot access it?
[21:46] <GregMathis> lewq, I guess you are right, just had what it is turning into - made grub a pita now you can't even customize something as simple as the panels?
[21:46] <Gallomimia> i have console access
[21:47] <melkor> Gallomimia: so you cannot get sshd started? Is that the only problem?
[21:47] <lloowen> Hello all. Is there a webmin type admin control center that runs via the command line? I guess something that uses ncurses.
[21:47] <zykotick9> GregMathis: you can share blame between ubuntu and gnome for that one...
[21:47] <jrib> GregMathis: try a different desktop environment... like xfce
[21:47] <GregMathis> zykotick9, i saw that short video of nelson mandela  on one of the ubuntu releases and rememebr thinking "i hope this isn't their lead programmer"
[21:47] <Gallomimia> melkor i actually don't know. i would endeavor to discover why sshd won't start before forcing the issue
[21:48] <ikonia> Gallomimia: you've not installed it ?
[21:48] <lewq> GregMathis: FWIW I've been highly ambivalent about the direction Ubuntu's heading in for some time.  I just tried 12.10 though and despite what I'm harping on about with multiple monitors, it's not actually that bad.  :)
[21:48] <Gallomimia> that response i will unfortunately ignore
[21:48] <zykotick9> GregMathis: i agree with jrib, switch DE/WMs!  xfce is "closest" to gnome2, but a poor replacement IMO... best of luck.  i just dropped DEs altogether, and couldn't be happier - but that's just me, my needs are minimal.
[21:48] <ikonia> Gallomimia: is sshd installed ?
[21:48] <melkor> Gallomimia: you could try starting it with service?
[21:49] <lewq> GregMathis: I've let go of my desire to add gnome-panel widgets now.  It's okay.  You can still run gkrellm if you want to.
[21:49] <Gallomimia> melkor, ikonia these ideas are premature. i need to find out what caused the vps to freak out on me in the first place
[21:49] <GregMathis> lewq, i just want the top panel at the bottom
[21:49] <ikonia> Gallomimia: yeah it's crazy wild checking if you've installed a package before complaining it won't start
[21:49] <mang0> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/ Following this guide now, when I got the chrooting in, I got an error upon running `sudo chroot /mnt`. The error says: Chroot failed to run `/sbin/bash` Exec format error. What's up?
[21:49] <zykotick9> lewq: gkrellm ftw ;)  old-school... but still cool (especial with the invisible theme)
[21:50] <melkor> Gallomimia: So what are you asking then? You claimed that your ubuntu install was messed up, but I don't understand how.
[21:50] <invariant> lewq, the unity code doesn't seem to be in very good shape.
[21:50] <Gallomimia> that makes two of us.
[21:50] <lewq> GregMathis: try turning your screen upside down ;)
[21:50] <melkor> Gallomimia: There is dmesg, and syslog. They are backed up in logs.
[21:50] <invariant> lewq, there are no comments in the interfaces to say what the purpose is of the interface.
[21:50] <awaad> trism: In my application, I made a code based on Clipboard as you can see here: "http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354209/"
[21:50] <melkor> Gallomimia: There is also an apt log in there too.
[21:50] <GregMathis> lewq, tried it but it turned the text upside down also
[21:51] <lewq> invariant: hmm.  Oh well, some of my code is like that.
[21:51] <invariant> lewq, there doesn't seem to be a design document explaining how everything ties together.
[21:51] <awaad> trism: My code works when a word is selected any where.
[21:51] <i7c> is i shrink my root partition with gparted live... will i have to adapt fstab / grub?
[21:51] <lewq> invariant: I did find https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aHvJ-iIw-59bXTYBmIhQqEx0za2h9jpFE_RhZ2VOvJc/edit which was somewhat comforting.
[21:51] <Gallomimia> all i know is it asked me for a great many configs to be diff'd possibly due to custom changes in the vps provider, and upon next reboot, there was a large spray of fecal material from a very fast moving fan
[21:51] <i7c> if*
[21:51] <lewq> i.e. someone's thought about it
[21:51] <GregMathis> lewq, i installed gnome-shell , tried logging in with gnome classic all of them dont do anything when you right click the panel -it's killing me
[21:51] <melkor> Gallomimia: /var/log has all sort of info.
[21:51] <lewq> anyway, gotta dash, it's pub o'clock - thanks invariant, GregMathis etc, it's been fun
[21:51] <awaad> trism: Is there any other method to make this code works only when a text is selected during pressing some key such as "CTRL" ?
[21:51] <lewq> GregMathis: I had the same reaction with 12.04.
[21:52] <invariant> lewq, yeah, that's good.
[21:52] <Gallomimia> i'll see what i can figure out with that
[21:52] <GregMathis> lewq, talk about it in the pub at least
[21:52] <lewq> invariant: I'll let you know if I find time to fiddle with udev :)
[21:52] <GregMathis> lewq, see if anyone else is pissed about it
[21:52] <trism> awaad: probably, might be more appropriate to the #python channel or maybe one of the gtk channels on the gnome irc (I don't know off the top of my head)
[21:53] <awaad> trism: Thanks very much for your help
[21:53] <lloowen> Is there a webmin type admin control center that runs via the command line? I guess something that uses ncurses. Yast has one for Suse. Just wondering if there was an Ubuntu variant.
[21:53] <melkor> Gallomimia: Sounds like your vps provider used custom config files which you replaced with the defaults when it was updated.
[21:53] <Gallomimia> no melkor, i declined the changes. can't imagine what the opposite would have done
[21:53] <melkor> Gallomimia: I've had this happen with grub.
[21:54] <jrib> Gallomimia: did you see my question about sources.list
[21:54] <joanjettfan> Anybody seeing this when updating 12.04. Two of my machines are doing this:
[21:54] <GregMathis> nelson mandela, robert mugabe named distro makes me sad
[21:54] <joanjettfan> The following packages have been kept back:   libavfilter2 libavformat53 libpostproc52 libswscale2
[21:54] <jrib> Gallomimia: because it seems kind of odd that so many configs would be updated at once for a normal upgrade
[21:54] <Gallomimia> yes jrib. the list is very short
[21:54] <zykotick9> GregMathis: you're talking about something people where crying about a long time ago, you are late to the party ;)  ubuntu/gnome3/win8 all seem to be headed in a similar, little customization direction - "users are idiots" mentality.  if you want customization, go elsewhere.  try xfce!  it's closest to what you are use to - and with customization, you can make it look however you want...
[21:55] <Gallomimia> the list of packages to upgrade was off the screen of a normal terminal
[21:55] <jrib> Gallomimia: what distro do they point to?
[21:55] <jrib> ^release
[21:55] <GregMathis> zykotick9, screw it im going gentoo
[21:55] <Gallomimia> natty
[21:56] <zykotick9> GregMathis: lol gentoo, (i used it for years)  enjoy the breakages ;)  roll-distro = non-stable
[21:56] <ikonia> Gallomimia: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[21:56] <GregMathis> zykotick9, i was kidding because of it's rep for being hard to use
[21:57] <Gallomimia> Linux key 2.6.18-274.18.1.el5.028stab098.1 #1 SMP Sat Feb 11 15:30:41 MSK 2012 x86_64 x8
[21:57] <Gallomimia> 6_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:57] <ikonia> el5
[21:57] <ikonia> there we go
[21:57] <ikonia> this is a pile of junk
[21:57] <bekks> Isnt that the exact same kernel as yesterday...? :)
[21:57] <ikonia> bekks: yes
[21:57] <ikonia> it's common
[21:57] <Gallomimia> that is one old kernel :/
[21:58] <jrib> Gallomimia: what vps is this out of curiousity?
[21:58] <ikonia> oh, it's the same guy who was inisiting "THIS IS UBUNTU"
[21:58] <bekks> ikonia: Thats what I meant ;)
[21:58] <Gallomimia> nice of them to require in TOS to keep my box secure when the latest avail ubuntu image is 11.04
[21:58] <GregMathis> ikonia, hahaha
[21:58] <Gallomimia> the company is called alienvps.com
[21:58] <ikonia> Gallomimia: did you log a call with them the other day
[21:58] <ikonia> as you couldn't get apt-get update to work
[21:59] <Gallomimia> alien* where * = hosting,layer,...
[21:59] <Gallomimia> apt-get update works fine. it's do-release-upgrade which doesn't work. out of memory error
[21:59] <ikonia> Gallomimia: you won't be able to upgrade
[21:59] <ikonia> Gallomimia: didn't we go through this a day or two ago ?
[22:00] <Gallomimia> i remember talking about the memory error...
[22:00] <ikonia> Gallomimia: are you on a mac ssh'ing into ubuntu ?
[22:00] <cristian_> anybody has got the permission denied error?
[22:00] <Gallomimia> well, normally yes but now it's a java applet giving console access
[22:01] <ikonia> Gallomimia: didn't I tell you to log a call with your hosting provider ?
[22:01] <Gallomimia> i don't remember. did you?
[22:02] <ikonia> hang on I'll check if you where  the same guy
[22:02] <cristian_> #linux-noob
[22:03] <Gallomimia> :/etc/init.d# service ssh start
[22:03] <Gallomimia> start: Job is already running: ssh
[22:03] <Gallomimia> how odd.
[22:05] <ikonia> Gallomimia: where you the user adaminsull
[22:05] <Gallomimia> no
[22:05] <Gallomimia> this is the only nick i use on irc
[22:05] <Gallomimia> or a shortening of Gallo~
[22:05] <ikonia> Gallomimia: ok, different person
[22:05] <LucidGuy> Can someone answer this scenario for me ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354248/
[22:06] <alabala> Can someone give me a link to download Ubuntu 12.10 on my side mirror does not work :(
[22:06] <ikonia> Gallomimia: basically a user had a similar problem, same bastardised version of ubuntu on a bad virtualizaion platform
[22:06] <ikonia> Gallomimia: the only way you can do anything is log a call and ask you hosting provider to change things, but the bottom line is, the el5 kernel is too old too
[22:06] <ikonia> Gallomimia: too much is provided from the hypervisor host, not enough from the guest
[22:07] <Gallomimia> well doesn't seem they support 12.04 at all so i guess i'm SOL
[22:07] <ikonia> Gallomimia: it's the price of having a terrible hosting provider
[22:08] <cloudy> ikonia, did the other user that had lost his desktop files during upgrade find them again?
[22:08] <jrib> Gallomimia: there are other VPS providers
[22:08] <jrib> cloudy: nope, he was back here today
[22:08] <Gallomimia> this one's super cheap. not worth paying more for what i want this for
[22:08] <ikonia> cloudy: not that I'm aware of
[22:08] <dreambox> oh god, how bad is unity...
[22:08] <ikonia> Gallomimia: thats fine, cheap is not a problem if you are happy with the limitations
[22:08] <Gallomimia> at $19 per year i ought not be picky
[22:09] <ikonia> Gallomimia: you may want to ask them to do a reset back to default though
[22:09] <dreambox> it's an..AUTONOMOUS gui.. it does unpredictable stuff ..
[22:09] <ikonia> as I suspect your machine is now in a state
[22:09] <dreambox> it switches workspaces,
[22:09] <Gallomimia> yes indeed.
[22:09] <DarKMode> LucidGuy all what linux cares about is uid not the names
[22:09] <dreambox> it changes focuses, it hides windows...
[22:09] <alabala> Can someone give me a link to download Ubuntu 12.10 on my side mirror does not work :(
[22:09] <Gallomimia> check out this:
[22:09] <i7c> can i run  "grub-mkconfig -o ~/test.cfg"  safely for testing reasons?
[22:09] <Gallomimia> # runlevel
[22:09] <Gallomimia> runlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory
[22:09] <dreambox> going back to a simple thing like Lubuntu or Xubuntu..
[22:09] <Gallomimia> that's bad right?
[22:09] <DarKMode> LucidGuy you sould consider instaling nis or ladap
[22:10] <guntbert> alabala: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[22:10] <perfectxireau> What are we up to today?
[22:10] <ikonia> Gallomimia: not massivly
[22:10] <alabala> guntbert, thanks
[22:10] <LucidGuy> DarKMode, I agree .. but doesnt really answer my question.
[22:10] <guntbert> perfectxireau: welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[22:10] <perfectxireau> Thank you for the welcome. How is everyone doing today?
[22:11] <LucidGuy> DarKMode, I would love to simply specific UID in the mount command, but it doesnt seem to be supported anymore.
[22:11] <DarKMode> LucidGuy yes Samba still takes the remotes client UID into
[22:11] <DarKMode> consideration
[22:11] <guntbert> perfectxireau: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:12] <perfectxireau> Yeah, I do, but I'll let other people ask theirs first. You never know if mine might be asked.
[22:12] <LucidGuy> DarKMode, Do you know if there is a way to stop that?
[22:12] <zykotick9> !ask | perfectxireau
[22:13] <i7c> can i run  "grub-mkconfig -o ~/test.cfg"  safely for testing reasons?
[22:13] <perfectxireau> !patience
[22:14] <zykotick9> !msgthebot | perfectxireau fyi
[22:15] <perfectxireau> Alright then fine. I've been trying to get flash to work with Ubuntu 12.04 since I upgraded from 10.04. I moved up to 12.10 and I still have issues with flash. It doesn't work well with certain apps that ask to store data on my computer. It gives the settings box, but I can't click on it at all. What should I do about it?
[22:15] <DarKMode> LucidGuy you have 3 option 1- give permitions to any body(big securitu hole)  2-change user uid (problem with local file )  3- install nis ldap server to manage the whole thing
[22:15] <zykotick9> perfectxireau: you don't need to use the ! when msging ubottu so using "/msg ubottu patience" would have worked (then look for a PM from ubottu)
[22:16] <perfectxireau> Thank you zykotick9
[22:16] <overclucker> i7c: yes.
[22:16] <zykotick9> perfectxireau: (sidenote) that was a well asked question.  fyi, flash has always been poor on gnu/linux... best of luck.
[22:16] <i7c> overclucker: thank you :)
[22:17] <perfectxireau> Not quite zyko. Back on 10.04 it worked perfectly for everything I did. Even back on 8.04 when I joined the Ubuntu crowd it worked well. However, I don't understand what exactly it is about 12.04 and 12.10 that don't work well with flash.
[22:18] <cloudy> perfectxireau, are you experiencing the situation where you can see the flash settings dialog box but clicking on any of its button doesn't do anything?
[22:18] <perfectxireau> That is correct.
[22:18] <roots> I to have had problems with flash
[22:19] <roots> But i didnt say anything as i dont use ubuntu as my pirammary os
[22:19] <cuddylier_> ikonia Got iptables working, it was blocking the ports on eth0 rather than eth1 which is my default.
[22:19] <perfectxireau> Well, I realized it wasn't just me when my father, Longfist, and older brother Provinfistoris also had the issues.
[22:19] <unrar> h
[22:19] <cloudy> perfectxireau, search the web for an adobe website that will produce those flash settings. If I can find them I will let you know
[22:20] <perfectxireau> Thank you Cloudy. I'll do that.
[22:20] <cloudy> perfectxireau, http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/de/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html
[22:20] <quidnunc> Sound doesn't work for my current user but does work for root ([sudo] speaker-test)
[22:21] <quidnunc> It was working previously
[22:21] <cloudy> perfectxireau, sorry for it being in German
[22:21] <perfectxireau> Don't worry about it. I'm from Berlin
[22:21] <cloudy> perfectxireau, here it is English: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html
[22:22] <Gallomimia> quidnunc: have you tried rebooting? i've seen other OS's where one user grabs the sound and won't let the other users get any access
[22:22] <cherr> has anyone used crossover to run WoW?
[22:23] <blackshirt> hello, good morning
[22:23] <quidnunc> Gallomimia: rebooting worked last time. Started the computer today and the problem reoccurred
[22:23] <perfectxireau> thank you very much for your help cloudy. I'll be sure to run this by the rest of my friends in the Ubuntu world
[22:23] <Gallomimia> hm. so we need a permanent solution
[22:24] <cloudy> perfectxireau, my pleasure! :)
[22:26] <quidnunc> Gallomimia: Can you tell me if anything in ls -l /dev/snd is not root/audio?
[22:28] <Gallomimia> quidnunc: no i cannot. i'm not on a ubuntu system right now and my ubuntu install is borked (and has no audio devices)
[22:28] <lloowen>  Is there a webmin type admin control center that runs via the command line? I guess something that uses ncurses. Yast has one for Suse. Just wondering if there was an Ubuntu variant.
[22:28] <duaned> anyone running Ubuntu-Q and having trouble running glxinfo?
[22:29] <blackshirt> lloowen, i dont think it was there
[22:30] <zykotick9> lloowen: not that i'm aware of.  if you find one, let me know!  ... i don't think you will in the default repos...  if it's outside default repos, i'm not interested ;)
[22:30] <cherr> running WoW in a WinXP bottle on crossover and can't seem to log in, getting the prompt that my info is incorrect. i can log in fine on my win7 machine. any ideas?
[22:36] <zykotick9> duaned: by Ubuntu-Q do you mean Quantal Quetzal?  what video are you running ("lspci | grep -i vga" from terminal in unsure)?
[22:36] <Zenexer> I'm using adb (Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.29) on 12.04, with everything seemingly up-to-date.  Sometimes adb crashes, and I'm left with a defunct process.  Normally that wouldn't be a problem--kill the parent, init claims it and reaps it--but init just leaves it there after claiming it.
[22:37] <Zenexer> Since the program does quite a bit with USB, I figure that it might have some sort resource open, or is otherwise in a state that init thinks is unsafe to reap.
[22:38] <Zenexer> Aside from the obvious solution of fixing adb, is there any way to approach this problem?  I can't think of anything: I can't even attach to it with gdb.
[22:38] <Zenexer> (because it's not really running)
[22:39] <Zenexer> (Is there any way to forcefully close all USB resources, for example?)
[22:40] <gustav__> Zenexer: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[22:41] <Zenexer> The computer?  That works, obviously, but then it just crashes again a few hours later.
[22:41] <Zenexer> It wouldn't be a problem if it crashed at that frequency if it weren't for the fact that it won't start back up when the defunct process exists.
[22:42] <Zenexer> Or when whatever lock the defunct process has is taken.
[22:42] <gustav__> Try killing the parent or a child process to the defunct process.
[22:43] <Zenexer> The parent is init
[22:43] <gustav__> No children?
[22:43] <Zenexer> Nope
[22:44] <Zenexer> If I start up the process again with all debugging enabled, eventually I get this: system/core/adb/transport.c::readx():readx: fd=3 error 104: Connection reset by peer
[22:45] <gustav__> You should talk to whoever made that program.
[22:45] <gustav__> If no one answers.
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Zenexer: Please pastebin the output of "ps aux". There is an important distinction between a zombie and a process stuck in an uninterruptible state.
[22:45] <gustav__> There's an #android channel, too.
[22:46] <Zenexer> http://pastie.org/5368603
[22:47] <Zenexer> Well, #android is probably where I'll head if I try to fix adb.
[22:47] <gustav__> This place is rarely helpful.
[22:47] <Zenexer> Haha
[22:48] <Zenexer> I was successful with my requests once or twice :)
[22:48] <Jordan_U> Zenexer: I'd like the process state code, in STAT header, to be sure that it's 'Z' and not 'D'.
[22:48] <Zenexer> Sure
[22:48] <gustav__> I've filed a bug report for an issue I've been having for a while. Let's see how that turns out. Probably removed or something.
[22:48] <gustav__> Zenexer: That's all you get. :C
[22:48] <Zenexer> Says Zl
[22:49] <Zenexer> (pastebin coming in a moment)
[22:49] <Zenexer> http://pastie.org/5368622
[22:50] <cal_> how is it possible that the CommonName of the certificate is showing up differently on my browser than what I typed in for CommonName using make-ssl-cert, when setting up https for apache?
[22:50] <avatar_> hello everyone
[22:51] <blackshirt> hello
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Zenexer: Sounds like you are seeing something similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1077579 then, but please ask in #upstart if you should file a new bug report or simply add more information to the existing one (and please do one or the other, the more information we get the sooner it can get fixed).
[22:51] <avatar_> who know, how can i install dial up modem in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[22:51] <Zenexer> Jordan_U: Thanks :)
[22:52] <Jordan_U> Zenexer: You're welcome :)
[22:52] <avatar_> this modem has motorola chipset
[22:52] <magesing> test
[22:52] <blackshirt> avatar_ you mean usb modem?
[22:52] <avatar_> blackshirt: no, pci modem
[22:52] <immortal618> why do you need that?
[22:53] <avatar_> because it is only way to be online at countryside ;)
[22:54] <avatar_> gnome ppp can`t make a connection
[22:55] <immortal618>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[22:55] <Zenexer> Jordan_U: Those cloned processes in curly braces from pstree -p... what are those, exactly?  Because I'm able to attach to the one associated with the defunct process with gdb.
[22:55] <Zenexer> Are those just individual threads?
[22:56] <tyler_d1> leeeeeeroy mmmmmmmjenkins
[22:56] <Zenexer> Actually, I lied, gdb freezes.
[22:57] <guliy3v> how can I extract lzm compressed archives?
[22:57] <NET||abuse> what's the feeling on the latest nvidia drivers for 12.10?
[22:58] <NET||abuse> i've got 304.51 it would seem from the dpkg -l output, i see 304.64 up on their site, and 310.14 which seems to be some huge performance boosting optimisation release for high end cards
[22:58] <tyler_d1> NET||abuse: the resume support is finicky at best, my 440 overheats to about 96 with minimal graphic push(flash)... but otherwise, I've never really fealt them
[22:59] <NET||abuse> i've only an NVS 4200M on the lappy here.
[22:59] <tyler_d1> NET||abuse: oh, dual monitor support requires manually setting it / unsetting it, if you unplug without modifying the config, it is quite fun to "unset" the dual monitor mode
[23:00] <NET||abuse> tyler_d1: i'm finding that works really well for me, i unplug and it resets the desktop to single monitor resolution no problem...
[23:00] <guliy3v> how can I extract lzm compressed archives?
[23:00] <NET||abuse> although i'm using a dock for that.
[23:00] <Tim> hello everyone. I am hoping I can get a little help with a problem I am having with Ubuntu Desktop 12.10
[23:00] <roots> what is your issue?
[23:01] <NET||abuse> guliy3v: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+lsm+extract   i'm sure that'll answer it for you
[23:01] <tyler_d1> !offtopic
[23:01] <Tim> I installed the OS with little trouble, but It will not start on my computer, it just keeps crashing. If I take the hard drive out and put it in a different tower, it boots just fine.
[23:01] <tyler_d1> thanks Ubottu I love you
[23:02] <Tim> I have noticed if I do not connect the monitor then I can get something to start, but when i hook it back up, then the system goes to shit
[23:02] <guliy3v> NET||abuse: what da..?!
[23:02] <h00k> !language | Tim
[23:02] <xiamx> is it possible to disable encryption or using a less cpu intensive?
[23:02] <Tim> my appologies
[23:03] <avatar_> immortal618: i have modemdata.txt now
[23:03] <guliy3v> how can I extract lzm compressed archives?
[23:04] <bekks> guliy3v: Do you mean "lzma"?
[23:04] <guliy3v> bekks: nah. lzm
[23:05] <avatar_> copy it to pastebin ?
[23:05] <bekks> guliy3v: Could you pastebin the output if "file yourfile.lzm"?
[23:06] <guliy3v> bekks: actually i compressed as lzma in linux, but my bsd converted it to lzm, i googled though, still confusing
[23:06] <bekks> guliy3v: Then it is lzma compressed, still.
[23:07] <thanigai> how install knoppix iso into usb flash
[23:07] <bekks> guliy3v: And currently you are trying to uncompress it on BSD?
[23:07] <Jordan_U> thanigai: Use unetbootin.
[23:07] <thanigai> i am using ubuntu
[23:07] <avatar_> http://pastebin.com/dFARQ4Hs here is modemdata.txt
[23:08] <dr_willis> reading about lzma at  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lempel%E2%80%93Ziv%E2%80%93Markov_chain_algorithm    ;) gotta love nerdy computer stuff.
[23:08] <bekks> avatar_: How about reading your own text file ;)
[23:08] <guliy3v> bekks: no, im on Ubuntu 12.04.1
[23:08] <Tim> I am guessing no one has heard of this issue before
[23:09] <thanigai> Jordan_U,  i am using  ubuntu
[23:09] <bekks> guliy3v: Then use one of the lzma utilities to uncompress it.
[23:09] <guliy3v> dr_willis: thanks for the link
[23:09] <avatar_> bekks: ? ;)
[23:09] <Jordan_U> thanigai: That doesn't change my answer. Unetbootin is a program, which you can install with Ubuntu Software Center (or apt-get).
[23:10] <avatar_> this is modemdata.txt file with modem details
[23:10] <thanigai> Jordan_U, ok thank you .
[23:10] <nashant> Hi, I've got a samba problem. I'm trying to access a share from an anonymous user, but when I go into the share it shows as empty
[23:10] <Jordan_U> thanigai: You're welcome.
[23:11] <guliy3v> bekks: since it should be recognized by ubuntu as a lzma compression, it could be available to extract from right-click directly, but it seems not to support, unrecognized?
[23:11] <bekks> guliy3v: That "recognition" is based on the file name extension.
[23:11] <dr_willis> guliy3v:  i just realized i dont understand welll much of anything at the link.. ;)
[23:11] <bekks> guliy3v: So just uncompress it using one of the lzma utilities.
[23:12] <dr_willis> from what i gather at the link. 7zip tools should handle it?
[23:12] <avatar_> bekks: will this pci modem card run in ubuntu ?
[23:13] <guliy3v> dr_willis: i meant the further information on lzm algorithm, it's good to know )
[23:13] <bekks> avatar_: I have no clue. I never used modems like that.
[23:13] <sianhulo> hello people, is there a way to "restore" ubuntu wthout reinstalling it?I have some problems that I think should be ereased by the root(pun aside), now I don't have any virgin cd and my motherboard isn't usb-friendly, tl;dr anyway to restore all configuration and applications of that of deafult ubuntu?
[23:13] <avatar_> where can i find drivers for motorola ?
[23:14] <MetalWolf> finally figured out my initramfs issue!  It lets me rebuild my array... hopefully it will start working again after its rebuilt
[23:14] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  user apps/configs are in their home. easyally erased.. system configs can be harder..
[23:14] <guliy3v> i found this thread from forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9419546..can i use squash-tools and anybody has an idea?
[23:14] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  the apt-get tools can purge/reinstall packages and their configs
[23:15] <bekks> guliy3v: You dont need the squash tools to uncompress a lzma archive.
[23:15] <guliy3v> bekks: man, you have never tried it, did you?
[23:15] <sianhulo> dr_willis, however, is there a way to know which packages were installed and which came with the system?
[23:16] <bekks> guliy3v: I am using lzma for years now. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lzma&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[23:16] <guliy3v> bekks: what about lzm itself?
[23:16] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  you mean installed by default? Not that i know of.. since each  variant (kubuntu/ubuntu/edubuntu and so on) has differnt defaults
[23:16] <bekks> guliy3v: Whats the output of "file yourfile.lzm" then?
[23:16] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  there may be some sort of apt log for whats been installed and when. but ive never seen one.
[23:17] <magesing> Hi everyone, I just switched to ubuntu 12.10 from Debian. I was using icedove for my mail, and now I have thrunderbird set up. How do I get my old mail messages and contacts from icedove into thunderbird? I tried copying .icedove to .thunderbird but that did not work
[23:17] <ses1984> can i take a moment to vent about how inconvenient it is to fix a system using LVM from the live cd...that recommmend installing with LVM? who thought of this?
[23:17] <dr_willis> tar –lzma -xvf filename.tar.lzma
[23:17] <dr_willis> perhaps?
[23:17] <sianhulo> dr_willis, so.... the system itself doesn't know which packages came with the system?then it's kind of useless to me, thanks anyway
[23:17] <guliy3v> doctor williw, lzm is different then lzma
[23:17] <dr_willis> i think that first is a --  ;) the web site paste messed up
[23:17] <Jordan_U> ses1984: If you'd like help with fixing said system, we can help you. But no, this is not a channel for venting, only productive support discussion.
[23:18] <jrib> dr_willis: your em dash is showing
[23:18] <dr_willis> I cant even find referance to lzm
[23:18] <bekks> guliy3v: Whats the output of "file yourfile.lzm" then?
[23:18] <guliy3v> i could extract it with --lzma or -xz flag in bsd
[23:18] <guliy3v> bekks: sorry, which output?
[23:18] <bekks> guliy3v: For the fourth time: "file yourfile.lzm"
[23:19] <nashant> Hi, I've got a samba problem. I'm trying to access a share from an anonymous user, but when I go into the share it shows as empty
[23:19] <guliy3v> bekks: im afraid i have no idea what you're talking about
[23:19] <dr_willis> the command 'file' shows info about a file....
[23:19] <Jordan_U> guliy3v: "file" is a command, it takes a file as an argument and gives information about said file's type.
[23:19] <bekks> guliy3v: "file" is a command, avail in BSD too, which shows basic information of a file's content.
[23:20] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:20] <avatar_> it means that my modem is bad for linux ?
[23:20] <dr_willis> avatar_:   totally dependss on the chipset its using for the most part
[23:20] <bekks> avatar_: The file you pasted is a pretty neat howto how to get your modem up and running.
[23:21] <avatar_> i should try use alsa drivers ?
[23:21] <Jordan_U> bekks: And just when we were about to make progress with guliy3v, netsplit :)
[23:21] <zatan_> Hey how dors it call this http://imgur.com/yBRKl  effect ?
[23:21] <zatan_> does*
[23:21] <bekks> Jordan_U: The gods are against us.
[23:22] <avatar_> bekks: i will read it again ;)
[23:23] <Jordan_U> zatan_: Expose, though it might also have other names.
[23:24] <zatan_> Jordan_U,  cheers
[23:24] <avatar_> bekks: but really i don`t understand it
[23:28] <zatan_> Jordan_U,  its not expo :)
[23:31] <lollko> hi o/ :)
[23:31] <avatar_> all in all, what should i do to run this modem ?
[23:35] <ElixirVitae> It is okay to delete contents of /var/cache/apt/ as they are used for installing and not needed after that, no?
[23:35] <BryanRuiz1> google chrome keeps freezing on me, so I guess the best thing to do is for me to reinstall it, any other suggestions?
[23:36] <jrib> ElixirVitae: use the commands « apt-get clean » and « apt-get autoclean » (see apt's man page for the difference) instead
[23:36] <ElixirVitae> okay, grazie
[23:37] <lollko> hi guys ;) i have problem with my soundcard (Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller) on ubuntu 11.10 oneiric, any idea to solve this problem ? i cant find driver on this card.
[23:37] <fireshibby> let me look into it lollko
[23:38] <nashant> Hi, I've got a samba problem. I'm trying to access a share from an anonymous user, but when I go into the share it shows as empty. Can anyone help?
[23:39] <lollko> nashant: show smb.conf
[23:39] <nashant> i've looked up loads of tutorials and none seem to help
[23:39] <nashant> k, 2 secs
[23:39] <lollko> fireshibby: okay ;)
[23:39] <fireshibby> lollko, have you downloaded the Catalyst driver for it?
[23:39] <lollko> fireshibby: yep ;)
[23:39] <fireshibby> and it's still not working?
[23:39] <lollko> uhm :(
[23:39] <lollko> graphic card is okay
[23:39] <fireshibby> alright, try this
[23:39] <lollko> but sound ee :(
[23:40] <fireshibby> Edit /etc/default/grub and change this line:
[23:40] <fireshibby> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[23:41] <fireshibby> to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1"
[23:41] <lollko> okay w8
[23:41] <nashant> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1354440/
[23:42] <lollko> fireshibby: i have "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet pcie_aspm=force""
[23:42] <lollko> ok i go to replace
[23:43] <synthmesc> can anyone here recommend a working/good webcam that works out of teh box with 10.04?  the skype/webcam ubuntu help page lists like 3 that aren't around
[23:43] <fireshibby> after you change it, run "sudo update-grub", in your terminal then reboot your computer.
[23:43] <synthmesc> logitech is preferred
[23:43] <synthmesc> I get a "unable to enumerate device" with this logitech C3XX
[23:44] <synthmesc> works in 12.04, but I am not upgrading
[23:44] <lollko> fireshibby: okay :)
[23:44] <unborn> synthmesc: trust
[23:44] <synthmesc> trust?
[23:44] <unborn> synthmesc: yeah hold on i have look on back of can
[23:44] <nashant> lolko: any hints as to why I'm getting an empty share?
[23:45] <BigMac1> we
[23:46] <unborn> synthmesc: that is 3th cam used on linuxmint from version 7 till 9 and it works with debian 5 and 6
[23:46] <unborn> i mean it works in ubuntu as well
[23:46] <unborn> synthmesc: trust: s/n 1005003170
[23:47] <unborn> synthmesc: they works out of box and are cheap
[23:48] <synthmesc> that would be nice if they sold them here
[23:48] <synthmesc> http://www.trust.com/w2b/ <- no USA
[23:48] <fireshibby> buy them off of ebay then as an alternative
[23:48] <lollko> fireshibby: any change ;/
[23:48] <synthmesc> I dont deal with ebay because they take a cut of the seller's cash
[23:48] <lollko> nashant: send me again on query
[23:48] <synthmesc> which increases the price to the buyer
[23:49] <fireshibby> lollko it didn't change?
[23:49] <lollko> no :(
[23:49] <synthmesc> thanks
[23:50] <fireshibby> hmm...
[23:50] <lollko> do you want lspci log?
[23:50] <lollko> or what
[23:50] <lollko> i crying :D
[23:50] <lollko> :D
[23:50] <Guest72402> Hello. I really need some help please. I am able to go online and surf the internet, irc and download things when i run linux from the cd rom, BUT once I install it, it stops working within an hour after I install it.
[23:51] <Guest72402> I disabled ALL security from my router ( im on wireless)
[23:51] <Guest72402> and that still doesn't help
[23:51] <fireshibby> lollko i'll look into it more and see if i can find something
[23:51] <LucidGuy> running an xfs_repair on my massive 40TB filesystem.  Anything else anyone would recommend?  Just want to make sure the fs is healthy.  Been having odd issues with it.
[23:51] <Guest72402> it works ALL THE TIME when im plugged in to the internet but not with wifi
[23:51] <fireshibby> and Guest72402 what version of linux are you on?
[23:52] <Guest72402> ubuntu and i also did mint and another one
[23:52] <Guest72402> they all do the same thing
[23:52] <Guest72402> they work for an hour then stop going online
[23:52] <fireshibby> what version of ubuntu?
[23:52] <Guest72402> not sure. the newest one. I just downloaded it yesterday
[23:52] <OerHeks> Guest72402, if you download stuff, it keeps in memory, so if you run out of memory, this happens
[23:52] <Guest72402> it's my computer memory?
[23:52] <fireshibby> I dont think thats the problem, i think it's the wireless card he's talking about
[23:53] <Guest72402> yea my wifi cuts out after about an hour of use
[23:53] <Guest72402> no matter what distro
[23:53] <fireshibby> What computer do you have?
[23:53] <Guest72402> HP g60
[23:54] <Guest72402> why would the internet cut out after working for an hour? I installed linux around 6 times and it does the same thing time after time
[23:55] <SD> Hello guys.
[23:55] <Guest72402> It's working right now ONLY BECAUSE i'm on the cd rom
[23:55] <fireshibby> It seems others are having the same problem with the same computer running ubuntu
[23:55] <codemonkey> does anyone know why the connect to tracker through proxy option is missing in transmission 2.52A?
[23:55] <codemonkey> does anyone know why the connect to tracker through proxy option is missing in transmission 2.52?
[23:55] <fireshibby> it has a hard wireless switch, right?
[23:55] <Guest72402> think so
[23:56] <Guest72402> you think my memory or something gets full and thats why the wifi cuts out after an hour "till i reinstall the distro" ?
[23:56] <fireshibby> Guest72402, this might help, i'm not too positive how to direct you personally http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=f37cfe491fe20eecb8e65367498e92ed&t=1604665&page=2
[23:57] <Guest72402> fireshibby i'll try that
[23:57] <Guest72402> do you think it has to do with my memory?
[23:57] <OerHeks> Guest72402 no, that would only happen when running a live cd. Installed ubuntu should not influence
[23:58]  * OerHeks missed that part
[23:58] <fireshibby> No no Guest72402, it has to do with your wireless switch on the computer itself. I had the same problem on my laptop with Hackintosh
[23:58] <Guest72402> hmm. why do you think that after an hour "when it's installed" it stops working online?
[23:58] <Guest72402> Oh. how did you fix it?
[23:58] <Guest72402> i'm a newbie
[23:59] <unborn> guys is it safe to replace rhytmbox with audacious? ubuntu 12.04 here
[23:59] <unborn> thanks
[23:59] <fireshibby> For me, i didn't, because it's a pain to when installing Mac OSX on a non-Apple laptop.
[23:59] <Guest72402> do you run live cd to keep it working?
[23:59] <codemonkey> does anyone know why the connect to tracker through proxy option is missing in transmission 2.52?