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scott-workfinal release discussion for ardour 3.0 http://ardour.org/node/568216:11
holsteinwoohoo!16:11
ttoineyes !16:26
ttoinescott-work, zequence, knome, I had a chat with pleia2 from the xubuntu team, she gave me the email of the person who help her to get the @xubuntu for their community. I just sent an email to this contact, I hope that it wil help16:27
scott-workvery cool16:27
len-dtHow long before ardour3 makes it to debian?16:31
len-dt(after release)16:31
falktxardour doesnt like to be packaged16:32
falktxit goes against their source of revenue (downloads asking for donations)16:32
falktxbut there's already an ardour3 package in debian-multimedia16:32
falktxjust waiting for the "ok, now it's safe to package" from the devs16:33
falktxlen-dt: so I say, although ardour devs might not be very happy with it, it should only take a few days or weeks after official release16:33
len-dtSounds good.16:36
len-dtI understand how they feel, but I also feel that US should come with ardour and that it should be up to date.16:37
len-dtHowever, I have set up our menu in such a way that the user can install the original package and it will show up in the right place.16:37
len-dtIf a user is having trouble getting support they can install the ardour site version and go from there.16:38
len-dtTo put it another way... if it was easy to do, I would be happy to ship our ISO with the ardour site version.16:39
len-dtI don't think it will ever be though.16:39
ttoinelen-dt, would it be possible to create a kink of "donate screen" in US ?16:40
len-dtttoine, There is a longer story that that I think.16:41
ttoinea kind of16:41
len-dtUbuntu uses deb source to make ubuntu packages. to do that we would have to do what happens with the flash installer16:42
ttoineand this is not possible ?16:42
len-dtWe would create a package that just downloads and installs ardour16:42
len-dtwe would have to coodinate with ardour because it is not a licence issue16:43
len-dtthey want people to see their screens on their site with links to their donate software.16:43
len-dtthis is fundamentally different than the flash instance16:43
len-dtGenerally in Ubuntu an open source version is desirable16:44
len-dtAnd it does exist. So it is the first choice16:44
len-dtttoine, in other words I don't think we would be able to ship the ardour version.16:49
ttoineok16:50
ttoineBut I was not thinking about that16:50
ttoineI was more thinking about a general donate screen, not only for ardour16:50
len-dtI don't know what the legal aspect of that is. I will note there is no such thing anywhere else in Ubuntu. 16:51
len-dtOur biggest lack in my opinion, is time... people's time.16:52
len-dtMoney is not really an issue.16:52
ttoineyes16:53
ttoinebut it was just to make a kind of reminder for user that yes it is free (so free of charge, too) but maybe they can contribute a bit to the projects they use16:54
len-dtHaving a page on our website that has links to pages of the software we use where people could donate might be ok.16:54
ttoineit is a good idea16:54
len-dtI think we have a contribute to Studio page where we ask for help.16:55
len-dtthat may be a good place to link from.16:55
len-dtttoine, there is a link from the main menu to our contribute page (or there could be, I think right now it goes to the dev mailing list page)17:08
ttoineyes17:08
ttoinelen-dt, should I add this in PR blueprint ?17:09
len-dtI think that is valid. both repointing the menu item to the correct page and expanding the contribute page.17:09
ttoinehum17:20
ttoineI can't add a work items...17:20
ttoinescott-work, I can't add a workitem on the PR blueprint.17:21
len-dtare you logged in?17:22
scott-workttoine: hmmm, as long as you are logged in it should work17:27
ttoineknome, zequence, len-dt, could you have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ttoine ?18:46
ttoineI would like to become a "Member" and would have your opinion on my wiki page ?18:46
knomettoine, the lists in "contributions" aren't working correctly, for starters18:49
knomettoine, fixed it. will add a testimony later18:56
ttoineknome, oh, thank you very much19:10

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